SKS said today in his last PMQs that Labour was "found to be institutionally antisemitic", presumably by the EHRC.
This is a total and complete lie. Straightforward fabrication. As a lawyer, he must know it's a lie.
He really is the most execrably dishonest man, who seems to have forgotten he's been forced out of power discredited by his association with Mandelson, disgraced by his complicity in genocide and so reviled by voters that his Party has to find a new leader from outside of the PLP to try rescue his government from electoral oblivion.
Incidentally, in case anyone thought BJO was telling the truth, here's the report he claims does not exist:
The EHRC report which led to Corbyn's expulsion does not use that language, but here is its report which describes Labour as 'at best, did not do enough to prevent antisemitism and at worst, could be seen to accept it.'
Corbyn said that was a lie, but it was not true - he's just massively racist. The problem is, like rather too many in Labour, he doesn't realise it.
Racist?
Where does EHRC say that?
Sadly unsurprising that SKS ends his exchanges with Badenoch with another of his whopping lies. The Labour Party was never found to be "institutionally antisemitic." That term did not appear in the EHRC report because no such thing was found.
The report into Racism in the Lab Party commissioned by SKS concluded Antisemitism is treated more seriously than other forms of Racism the complete opposite of what you claim
The report highlighted a "hierarchy of racism," noting that anti-Black racism and Islamophobia were often treated as less important than antisemitism.
Repeating the lie over and over again doesnt make it true
If England have a chance here it's because Argentina are clearly way too emotional about this game.
1982 is still on their minds, even though none of the team was alive then.
They are indoctrinated in it from birth there, and it's plastered over every public building and hoarding.
They are obsessed.
Have you ever been there Casino? I have, I spent three months cycling through it. Aside from an enormous INGLES=PIRATAS graffiti in Tierra del Fuego I saw nothing of what you claim.
For context, my Dad nearly got killed in the Falklands as a helicopter pilot, which would have meant I didn't exist (I was born in 83). I spent many an hour in the pub discussing the war with, amongst others, Argentinian naval officers.
There was plenty of wry jokes about imperialism but little in the way of hostility.
My mother and sister went there last November and my WhatsApp was alive with all the photos.
It was rife.
Perhaps things have changed (I was there 20 years ago). Or perhaps either you or your family are experiencing confirmation bias.
I was as shocked as you are.
Don't forget that Clarkson's team was almost lynched for driving a car with H982 FKL round there, and attacked with pickaxes and stones by a mob.
They absolutely don't have a sense of humour about it.
Despite speaking Spanish, I seem to remember reading somewhere that more Argentinians are descended from Italians than Spaniards which maybe explains it.
Argentinians are Italians who speak Spanish and think they are British
Except for those right down by the penguins, who think they are Welsh
If they were Welsh they'd be right down by the sheep.
There's an example of classic woolly thinking from ewe.
If England have a chance here it's because Argentina are clearly way too emotional about this game.
1982 is still on their minds, even though none of the team was alive then.
They are indoctrinated in it from birth there, and it's plastered over every public building and hoarding.
They are obsessed.
Have you ever been there Casino? I have, I spent three months cycling through it. Aside from an enormous INGLES=PIRATAS graffiti in Tierra del Fuego I saw nothing of what you claim.
For context, my Dad nearly got killed in the Falklands as a helicopter pilot, which would have meant I didn't exist (I was born in 83). I spent many an hour in the pub discussing the war with, amongst others, Argentinian naval officers.
There was plenty of wry jokes about imperialism but little in the way of hostility.
My mother and sister went there last November and my WhatsApp was alive with all the photos.
It was rife.
Perhaps things have changed (I was there 20 years ago). Or perhaps either you or your family are experiencing confirmation bias.
I was as shocked as you are.
Don't forget that Clarkson's team was almost lynched for driving a car with H982 FKL round there, and attacked with pickaxes and stones by a mob.
They absolutely don't have a sense of humour about it.
Despite speaking Spanish, I seem to remember reading somewhere that more Argentinians are descended from Italians than Spaniards which maybe explains it.
Argentinians are Italians who speak Spanish and think they are British
Except for those right down by the penguins, who think they are Welsh
If they were Welsh they'd be right down by the sheep.
SKS said today in his last PMQs that Labour was "found to be institutionally antisemitic", presumably by the EHRC.
This is a total and complete lie. Straightforward fabrication. As a lawyer, he must know it's a lie.
He really is the most execrably dishonest man, who seems to have forgotten he's been forced out of power discredited by his association with Mandelson, disgraced by his complicity in genocide and so reviled by voters that his Party has to find a new leader from outside of the PLP to try rescue his government from electoral oblivion.
Incidentally, in case anyone thought BJO was telling the truth, here's the report he claims does not exist:
The EHRC report which led to Corbyn's expulsion does not use that language, but here is its report which describes Labour as 'at best, did not do enough to prevent antisemitism and at worst, could be seen to accept it.'
Corbyn said that was a lie, but it was not true - he's just massively racist. The problem is, like rather too many in Labour, he doesn't realise it.
Racist?
Where does EHRC say that?
Sadly unsurprising that SKS ends his exchanges with Badenoch with another of his whopping lies. The Labour Party was never found to be "institutionally antisemitic." That term did not appear in the EHRC report because no such thing was found.
The report into Racism in the Lab Party commissioned by SKS concluded Antisemitism is treated more seriously than other forms of Racism the complete opposite of what you claim
The report highlighted a "hierarchy of racism," noting that anti-Black racism and Islamophobia were often treated as less important than antisemitism.
Repeating the lie over and over again doesnt make it true
As Alexai Sayle says They lie and they lie *100
I entirely agree with you on that.
So are you going to keep repeating your lie that no report found Labour institutionally antisemitic, or withdraw it?
Edit - incidentally, the comment about racism was linked to Corbyn's reaction to the EHCR report not the report itself. He's just in denial about the scale of his personal failing over this because he genuinely either doesn't care about or actively supports anti-semitism, most likely as has been noted over and over, the latter.
Of course, we can all see that you would never do such a thing...
I had a real small bet (£10) on England at10/1 what seems like ages ago but to reach the final in the first time for 60 years is going to be a massive achievement
I had a real small bet (£10) on England at10/1 what seems like ages ago but to reach the final in the first time for 60 years is going to be a massive achievement
First- a big chunk of Farage's shtick is 80s nostaligia. He was in his late teens/early twenties, so were his core supporters.
Second- another big chunk of his shtick is pretending to be a man of the people. He thinks that your Honest Jolly Jack Tar talks like that. Mostly he doesn't have a clue, because he's not actually a man of the people.
First- a big chunk of Farage's shtick is 80s nostaligia. He was in his late teens/early twenties, so were his core supporters.
Second- another big chunk of his shtick is pretending to be a man of the people. He thinks that your Honest Jolly Jack Tar talks like that. Mostly he doesn't have a clue, because he's not actually a man of the people.
It’s not far off the old ‘two world wars and one world cup’ crap from a few years back.
If they hadn't dicked about with all the fouls at the beginning and actually played, Argentina might be in a quite different position.
One thing that annoyed me very much about the 2003 rugby World Cup semi-final between Wales and England was that Wales scored all the tries and conversions but gave away so many penalties England still won.
Just incredibly stupid of them.
Things have changed now of course. They no longer score any tries.
SKS said today in his last PMQs that Labour was "found to be institutionally antisemitic", presumably by the EHRC.
This is a total and complete lie. Straightforward fabrication. As a lawyer, he must know it's a lie.
He really is the most execrably dishonest man, who seems to have forgotten he's been forced out of power discredited by his association with Mandelson, disgraced by his complicity in genocide and so reviled by voters that his Party has to find a new leader from outside of the PLP to try rescue his government from electoral oblivion.
Incidentally, in case anyone thought BJO was telling the truth, here's the report he claims does not exist:
The EHRC report which led to Corbyn's expulsion does not use that language, but here is its report which describes Labour as 'at best, did not do enough to prevent antisemitism and at worst, could be seen to accept it.'
Corbyn said that was a lie, but it was not true - he's just massively racist. The problem is, like rather too many in Labour, he doesn't realise it.
Racist?
Where does EHRC say that?
Sadly unsurprising that SKS ends his exchanges with Badenoch with another of his whopping lies. The Labour Party was never found to be "institutionally antisemitic." That term did not appear in the EHRC report because no such thing was found.
The report into Racism in the Lab Party commissioned by SKS concluded Antisemitism is treated more seriously than other forms of Racism the complete opposite of what you claim
The report highlighted a "hierarchy of racism," noting that anti-Black racism and Islamophobia were often treated as less important than antisemitism.
Repeating the lie over and over again doesnt make it true
As Alexai Sayle says They lie and they lie *100
I entirely agree with you on that.
So are you going to keep repeating your lie that no report found Labour institutionally antisemitic, or withdraw it?
Edit - incidentally, the comment about racism was linked to Corbyn's reaction to the EHCR report not the report itself. He's just in denial about the scale of his personal failing over this because he genuinely either doesn't care about or actively supports anti-semitism, most likely as has been noted over and over, the latter.
Of course, we can all see that you would never do such a thing...
The EHRC Report didnt
The Independent Forde report found a Hierarchy of Racism
BTW what even is the EHCR report dont think there was one I presume you mean EHRC
Corbyn said political opponents and sections of the media dramatically exaggerated the scale of antisemitism and other controversies within the Labour Party to discredit his leadership and socialist policies.
SKS said today in his last PMQs that Labour was "found to be institutionally antisemitic", presumably by the EHRC.
This is a total and complete lie. Straightforward fabrication. As a lawyer, he must know it's a lie.
He really is the most execrably dishonest man, who seems to have forgotten he's been forced out of power discredited by his association with Mandelson, disgraced by his complicity in genocide and so reviled by voters that his Party has to find a new leader from outside of the PLP to try rescue his government from electoral oblivion.
Incidentally, in case anyone thought BJO was telling the truth, here's the report he claims does not exist:
The EHRC report which led to Corbyn's expulsion does not use that language, but here is its report which describes Labour as 'at best, did not do enough to prevent antisemitism and at worst, could be seen to accept it.'
Corbyn said that was a lie, but it was not true - he's just massively racist. The problem is, like rather too many in Labour, he doesn't realise it.
Racist?
Where does EHRC say that?
Sadly unsurprising that SKS ends his exchanges with Badenoch with another of his whopping lies. The Labour Party was never found to be "institutionally antisemitic." That term did not appear in the EHRC report because no such thing was found.
The report into Racism in the Lab Party commissioned by SKS concluded Antisemitism is treated more seriously than other forms of Racism the complete opposite of what you claim
The report highlighted a "hierarchy of racism," noting that anti-Black racism and Islamophobia were often treated as less important than antisemitism.
Repeating the lie over and over again doesnt make it true
As Alexai Sayle says They lie and they lie *100
I entirely agree with you on that.
So are you going to keep repeating your lie that no report found Labour institutionally antisemitic, or withdraw it?
Edit - incidentally, the comment about racism was linked to Corbyn's reaction to the EHCR report not the report itself. He's just in denial about the scale of his personal failing over this because he genuinely either doesn't care about or actively supports anti-semitism, most likely as has been noted over and over, the latter.
Of course, we can all see that you would never do such a thing...
The EHRC Report didnt
The Independent Forde report found a Hierarchy of Racism
BTW what even is the EHCR report dont think there was one I presume you mean EHRC
Corbyn said political opponents and sections of the media dramatically exaggerated the scale of antisemitism and other controversies within the Labour Party to discredit his leadership and socialist policies.
100% true and what you are trying to do tonight
I'm not even sure what that rather incoherent and badly phrased comment is trying to say, but I am assuming that it's some form of 'no.'
Let's stick to facts. You claimed 'SKS said today in his last PMQs that Labour was "found to be institutionally antisemitic", presumably by the EHRC. This is a total and complete lie. Straightforward fabrication. As a lawyer, he must know it's a lie.'
I think linked to the report demonstrating it had been so found, noting that there was a separate report by the EHRC which had not made that exact claim but had noted that Labour had condoned and in cases encouraged anti-semitism. Your claim therefore that he was lying, along with the mindless personal abuse you specialise in, was incorrect.
So everything you wrote was wrong. You know it was wrong, because it has been proven to you it is wrong, and you are not recanting it.
You also make a statement implicitly condoning a genocide against Jewish people. You may not have realised it.
To make one further point, you have repeatedly claimed not to be an antisemite, becoming very abusive whenever your comments on this subject are raised. You went so far as to threaten to sue one poster (not me) for libel for calling you an anti-Semite. You also accuse others of supporting genocide if they do not slavishly support your line on Israel/Palestine.
But - in light of this, why should we take you at your own estimation?
For the record - I think you probably genuinely do believe you are neither racist or antisemitic.
But so did David Irving. He was wrong.
(I'm also somewhat reminded of your claims about private school numbers the other day, where you accused me of not knowing what I was talking about when I queried your claims and asked for a link, and provided a link to a Google image that wouldn't load. You really do seem to be following the late lamented Plato, and not in a good way.)
I don't understand the change of tactics. England when they played on the front foot were easily as good as Argentina, but then just decided to park the bus for 30+ minutes.
SKS said today in his last PMQs that Labour was "found to be institutionally antisemitic", presumably by the EHRC.
This is a total and complete lie. Straightforward fabrication. As a lawyer, he must know it's a lie.
He really is the most execrably dishonest man, who seems to have forgotten he's been forced out of power discredited by his association with Mandelson, disgraced by his complicity in genocide and so reviled by voters that his Party has to find a new leader from outside of the PLP to try rescue his government from electoral oblivion.
Incidentally, in case anyone thought BJO was telling the truth, here's the report he claims does not exist:
The EHRC report which led to Corbyn's expulsion does not use that language, but here is its report which describes Labour as 'at best, did not do enough to prevent antisemitism and at worst, could be seen to accept it.'
Corbyn said that was a lie, but it was not true - he's just massively racist. The problem is, like rather too many in Labour, he doesn't realise it.
You post a BICOM report
Wiki says After the outbreak of the Second Intifada, British Jews founded the Britain Israel Communications and Research Centre (BICOM) to promote a more supportive environment for Israel in the UK, principally through work with the media.[1]
In 2005, Ruth Smeeth joined as director of public affairs and campaigns.[2]
In 2009, it was criticized as "one of the most persistent and slickest media operations in the battle for influence over opinion formers".[3]
I don't understand the change of tactics. England when they played on the front foot were easily as good as Argentina, but then just decided to park the bus for 30+ minutes.
A stupid mistake we've made many a time before, and will no doubt make again.
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Should have held it though.
Where does EHRC say that?
Sadly unsurprising that SKS ends his exchanges with Badenoch with another of his whopping lies. The Labour Party was never found to be "institutionally antisemitic." That term did not appear in the EHRC report because no such thing was found.
The report into Racism in the Lab Party commissioned by SKS concluded Antisemitism is treated more seriously than other forms of Racism the complete opposite of what you claim
The report highlighted a "hierarchy of racism," noting that anti-Black racism and Islamophobia were often treated as less important than antisemitism.
Repeating the lie over and over again doesnt make it true
As Alexai Sayle says They lie and they lie *100
30300 minutes will end in tears.So are you going to keep repeating your lie that no report found Labour institutionally antisemitic, or withdraw it?
Edit - incidentally, the comment about racism was linked to Corbyn's reaction to the EHCR report not the report itself. He's just in denial about the scale of his personal failing over this because he genuinely either doesn't care about or actively supports anti-semitism, most likely as has been noted over and over, the latter.
Of course, we can all see that you would never do such a thing...
Good attacking football needs to be played until 90th minute, plus stoppage time.
Against Egypt the Argentinians came back very refreshed by the 2nd advert break.
I had a real small bet (£10) on England at10/1 what seems like ages ago but to reach the final in the first time for 60 years is going to be a massive achievement
First- a big chunk of Farage's shtick is 80s nostaligia. He was in his late teens/early twenties, so were his core supporters.
Second- another big chunk of his shtick is pretending to be a man of the people. He thinks that your Honest Jolly Jack Tar talks like that. Mostly he doesn't have a clue, because he's not actually a man of the people.
Backs to the wall, forget the concept of possession or passing. Just boot it.
Just incredibly stupid of them.
Things have changed now of course. They no longer score any tries.
The Independent Forde report found a Hierarchy of Racism
BTW what even is the EHCR report dont think there was one I presume you mean EHRC
Corbyn said political opponents and sections of the media dramatically exaggerated the scale of antisemitism and other controversies within the Labour Party to discredit his leadership and socialist policies.
100% true and what you are trying to do tonight
England the usual role of gallant loser.
It’s the hope that kills you
Big trouble now after those substitutions
60 years of hurt...
Let's stick to facts. You claimed 'SKS said today in his last PMQs that Labour was "found to be institutionally antisemitic", presumably by the EHRC. This is a total and complete lie. Straightforward fabrication. As a lawyer, he must know it's a lie.'
I think linked to the report demonstrating it had been so found, noting that there was a separate report by the EHRC which had not made that exact claim but had noted that Labour had condoned and in cases encouraged anti-semitism. Your claim therefore that he was lying, along with the mindless personal abuse you specialise in, was incorrect.
So everything you wrote was wrong. You know it was wrong, because it has been proven to you it is wrong, and you are not recanting it.
You also make a statement implicitly condoning a genocide against Jewish people. You may not have realised it.
To make one further point, you have repeatedly claimed not to be an antisemite, becoming very abusive whenever your comments on this subject are raised. You went so far as to threaten to sue one poster (not me) for libel for calling you an anti-Semite. You also accuse others of supporting genocide if they do not slavishly support your line on Israel/Palestine.
But - in light of this, why should we take you at your own estimation?
For the record - I think you probably genuinely do believe you are neither racist or antisemitic.
But so did David Irving. He was wrong.
(I'm also somewhat reminded of your claims about private school numbers the other day, where you accused me of not knowing what I was talking about when I queried your claims and asked for a link, and provided a link to a Google image that wouldn't load. You really do seem to be following the late lamented Plato, and not in a good way.)
I don't understand the change of tactics. England when they played on the front foot were easily as good as Argentina, but then just decided to park the bus for 30+ minutes.
Oh shut up Shearer.
Wiki says After the outbreak of the Second Intifada, British Jews founded the Britain Israel Communications and Research Centre (BICOM) to promote a more supportive environment for Israel in the UK, principally through work with the media.[1]
In 2005, Ruth Smeeth joined as director of public affairs and campaigns.[2]
In 2009, it was criticized as "one of the most persistent and slickest media operations in the battle for influence over opinion formers".[3]
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Tuchel’s game management has been great in this tournament but that was 25 minutes of pure Southgate
We clearly can’t !
TUCEL OUT