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  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,185
    edited 8:51PM
    Andy_JS said:

    Prediction: the final will be between England and France, and England will win.

    I think you will get great odds on that given how well Mbappe is going and England don't have a fit / available right back.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,404

    How is it that Archer struggled during the test series to get it down much more than 82-83 mph and bowling like Robinson, T20 he rocks up and bowls 90-93 mph.

    Because its 4 overs and he has no reason to hold back. Test cricket is a much longer and much more brutal game for bowlers. England aggravate this by over bowling Archer every time they run out of ideas.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,185
    edited 8:54PM
    ohnotnow said:

    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    In awful news - LNER now use Ricky Gervais's gin and whiskey which comes in impossible to open metal bottles.

    I'm 80 minutes into a 150 minute journey and appear to be the designated drop of point for problematic (half opened) bottles. I've got my 5th bottle already and I should in theory get 3 for the entire journey.

    I never realised it was a genuine product. Always thought the ads I’d seen on Twitter were a pisstake of sleb endorsed plonk such as the Gary Barlow,wine range
    Danny DeVito's Limoncello also real. And Walton Goggins has a vodka.
    Farage's gin is also... sort of real.

    https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2025/09/has-nigel-farages-gin-company-been-struck-off/

    "Farage Gin has previously been sold through a company called Baxter Laois Limited, based in Southend, Essex, about an hour’s drive from Farage’s Clacton home, as well as via Farage’s own online shop.

    According to a report by The Mirror, despite having promoted the drink on his website, Farage has never declared any income from the product since he became an MP last July. However, the Farage Gin web link disappeared last autumn and the last Instagram post by @Faragegin was on 20 April 2023. The account currently has 821 followers.

    Importantly, while the gin carries Farage’s name, it is his wife Laure Ferrari who is named as sole director and shareholder of the business."

    Given he has admitted that he is now a social media influencer I am surprised it wasn't just repacked white labelled supermarket own brand gin ala Peckham Spring Water.
  • eekeek Posts: 34,425
    Because every campaign requires 2 messages to reach all audiencies


  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,362
    Scott_xP said:

    ...

    Genuinely good.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,185
    edited 9:01PM
    DavidL said:

    How is it that Archer struggled during the test series to get it down much more than 82-83 mph and bowling like Robinson, T20 he rocks up and bowls 90-93 mph.

    Because its 4 overs and he has no reason to hold back. Test cricket is a much longer and much more brutal game for bowlers. England aggravate this by over bowling Archer every time they run out of ideas.
    Yes and no. Most other bowlers manage it unless they are really bowled into the ground. There isn't any real speed difference for instance in what Atkinson and Tongue are bowling between the formats. If he isn't fit enough to bowl flat out then really they shouldn't be picking him (and also Stokes got really shitty with him on a number of occasions about his lack of effort). Also they haven't been giving him big work loads and he hasn't even being taking the new ball. And the difference in speeds are vast, some times during the test he was barely hitting 80mph.
  • Well, this would seem to be an unprovoked error from Farage. It is a strange one really, the fate of David Davis is obvious to all. But, perhaps David Davis has a warmer appreciation as an elder statesman because of what he did in 2008. I can see that having the by-election now MIGHT mean that the ludicrous process of gathering 10% of the electorate to call a by-election after Farage has been kangarooed might not work. somehow I don't think that was the idea.

    Is Farage trying to provoke a GE ? I don't think so. It makes it somewhat more difficult for the Manchester Phenomenon to call a GE before Farage's trial is over. Three weeks ago those who know were saying the GE would be May 2027 and Lee Anderson would be leading Reform. This was seen as preferable to Oct 2026 with Farage collapsing in credibility during the campaign and so by default favouring the Leftists.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,362
    Another Conservative quits (in Canada). They don't seem to have any answer to Carney other than to moan that he shouldn't have been able to win and continue to embarrass them.
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-richard-martel-quebec-conservative-mp-senate-appointment/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
  • TimGeoTimGeo Posts: 37
    I think Bin Faces promise to put up other people’s taxes but not yours will go down pretty well in Clacton.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,734
    kle4 said:

    Another Conservative quits (in Canada). They don't seem to have any answer to Carney other than to moan that he shouldn't have been able to win and continue to embarrass them.
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-richard-martel-quebec-conservative-mp-senate-appointment/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    I can't stand Carney. I honestly don't know what Canadians see in him.
  • eekeek Posts: 34,425
    eek said:

    In awful news - LNER now use Ricky Gervais's gin and whiskey which comes in impossible to open metal bottles.

    I'm 80 minutes into a 150 minute journey and appear to be the designated drop of point for problematic (half opened) bottles. I've got my 5th bottle already and I should in theory get 3 for the entire journey.

    End result was 6 bottles with tonics so I've got 3 in my bag to take home.

    Got to say being polite attached to a cheap SeatFrog upgrade justifies the £25 it usually costs.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,362
    TimGeo said:

    I think Bin Faces promise to put up other people’s taxes but not yours will go down pretty well in Clacton.

    It's more direct in language than the typical political promise, I'll give it that.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,185
    edited 9:04PM
    eek said:

    eek said:

    In awful news - LNER now use Ricky Gervais's gin and whiskey which comes in impossible to open metal bottles.

    I'm 80 minutes into a 150 minute journey and appear to be the designated drop of point for problematic (half opened) bottles. I've got my 5th bottle already and I should in theory get 3 for the entire journey.

    End result was 6 bottles with tonics so I've got 3 in my bag to take home.

    Got to say being polite attached to a cheap SeatFrog upgrade justifies the £25 it usually costs.
    Never heard of that site, might have to give it a look.

    I can't really work out how so many of these rail fare sites make any money as ultimately they aren't in control of the prices (this one excluded as obviously its about paying for empty First Class seats).
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,734
    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,356
    biggles said:

    eek said:

    In awful news - LNER now use Ricky Gervais's gin and whiskey which comes in impossible to open metal bottles.

    I'm 80 minutes into a 150 minute journey and appear to be the designated drop of point for problematic (half opened) bottles. I've got my 5th bottle already and I should in theory get 3 for the entire journey.

    This is a scandal that I wish more people would focus on. In a first class seat between Newcastle and London, they now only bring you free booze once per hour unless you sweet talk them.

    Questions should be asked in Parliament. When I have a first class seat, my glass should remain full.
    Only the Establishment sit in First Class :lol:
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,249

    Well, this would seem to be an unprovoked error from Farage. It is a strange one really, the fate of David Davis is obvious to all. But, perhaps David Davis has a warmer appreciation as an elder statesman because of what he did in 2008. I can see that having the by-election now MIGHT mean that the ludicrous process of gathering 10% of the electorate to call a by-election after Farage has been kangarooed might not work. somehow I don't think that was the idea.

    Is Farage trying to provoke a GE ? I don't think so. It makes it somewhat more difficult for the Manchester Phenomenon to call a GE before Farage's trial is over. Three weeks ago those who know were saying the GE would be May 2027 and Lee Anderson would be leading Reform. This was seen as preferable to Oct 2026 with Farage collapsing in credibility during the campaign and so by default favouring the Leftists.

    The only way of interpreting this that makes sense that I can see is to win a pre-emptive by-election against all-comers and then use the mandate from that to fight off the scandals that seem to be incoming.

    Fighting a by-election in Essex on Farage's ethics doesn't make sense as a "change the subject" ruse- it puts them even more intensely under the spotlight. And if Farage wants to win, he is going to have to come out of hiding; releasing videos just isn't going to cut it.

    So I think the question boils down to this... did Nigel forget that the big parties didn't have to play by his rules- leaving him standing on the Liesure Centre stage by himself makes sense for them, after all? Or is his situation so dodgythat he has to roll the dice and hope?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,455
    Foss said:
    Good news for Philippe if she does as he polls better against her than Bardella
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,362
    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    Nonsensical is how I'd frame it. The people, working class or otherwise, are no more or less empowered than before his action, as it will have no bearing on whether he didn't declare huge financial gifts properly or not. It is a question of fact that a 100% voteshare would have literally no bearing on.

    How people react to those facts (if it were proven) is an entirely different matter, but that reveal will, again, need to wait until the stunt is over (unless the unthinkable were to happen and he doesn't get returned - which he will).
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,362
    HYUFD said:

    Foss said:
    Good news for Philippe if she does as he polls better against her than Bardella
    4 goes at it is probably a step too far - time to let someone else take it on.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 13,584


    Following from the Bread discussion earlier I came across this in my local on the way home
  • Hello from Spain. This Farage stunt. Is the idea that winning the by election means that all the questions and investigations about money are quietly dropped and never mentioned again?

    Because that isn’t how this works.

    The entire by election will be a continuous “who pays you” onslaught. He beats Binface. And then the first question is “who pays you” and the formal investigations continue.

    It’s bloody stupid.

    From the interviews Count Binface has given in the past there is a fairly sharp mind in that lump of metal. If I were him I would NOT stand stating that to do so would be beneath my dignity. That would be more chilling and finalising for Farage that all the other parties declining to stand put together. How about the Clacton Doggers Party to win with Commander Bill Boakes (resurrected) as candidate
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,921
    DougSeal said:



    Following from the Bread discussion earlier I came across this in my local on the way home

    Crumbs!
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,705
    edited 9:14PM
    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    Like Farage himself, O'Neill is framing this as a battle between "the people" and "the Establishment". This would only conceivably work if the 'people' of Clacton typify the electorate as a whole. They don't. In fact, they're rather atypical, in many respects. The people of Clacton no more represent the British people than, for example, the people of Islington.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,796

    Well, this would seem to be an unprovoked error from Farage. It is a strange one really, the fate of David Davis is obvious to all. But, perhaps David Davis has a warmer appreciation as an elder statesman because of what he did in 2008. I can see that having the by-election now MIGHT mean that the ludicrous process of gathering 10% of the electorate to call a by-election after Farage has been kangarooed might not work. somehow I don't think that was the idea.

    Is Farage trying to provoke a GE ? I don't think so. It makes it somewhat more difficult for the Manchester Phenomenon to call a GE before Farage's trial is over. Three weeks ago those who know were saying the GE would be May 2027 and Lee Anderson would be leading Reform. This was seen as preferable to Oct 2026 with Farage collapsing in credibility during the campaign and so by default favouring the Leftists.

    The only way of interpreting this that makes sense that I can see is to win a pre-emptive by-election against all-comers and then use the mandate from that to fight off the scandals that seem to be incoming.

    Fighting a by-election in Essex on Farage's ethics doesn't make sense as a "change the subject" ruse- it puts them even more intensely under the spotlight. And if Farage wants to win, he is going to have to come out of hiding; releasing videos just isn't going to cut it.

    So I think the question boils down to this... did Nigel forget that the big parties didn't have to play by his rules- leaving him standing on the Liesure Centre stage by himself makes sense for them, after all? Or is his situation so dodgythat he has to roll the dice and hope?
    In the first by-election Farage has to spend it touring the constituency, pleading "I did nothing wrong!"

    Fast forward to the second by-election, where Farage's assertions in the first look at best unconvincing - as the Parliamentary authorities list what he did wrong.

    I'm not sure how he fights that second by-election. His credibility will be shot. And the full range of enemies will be ranged against him next time.

    Maybe he doesn't contest it.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,921

    Well, this would seem to be an unprovoked error from Farage. It is a strange one really, the fate of David Davis is obvious to all. But, perhaps David Davis has a warmer appreciation as an elder statesman because of what he did in 2008. I can see that having the by-election now MIGHT mean that the ludicrous process of gathering 10% of the electorate to call a by-election after Farage has been kangarooed might not work. somehow I don't think that was the idea.

    Is Farage trying to provoke a GE ? I don't think so. It makes it somewhat more difficult for the Manchester Phenomenon to call a GE before Farage's trial is over. Three weeks ago those who know were saying the GE would be May 2027 and Lee Anderson would be leading Reform. This was seen as preferable to Oct 2026 with Farage collapsing in credibility during the campaign and so by default favouring the Leftists.

    The only way of interpreting this that makes sense that I can see is to win a pre-emptive by-election against all-comers and then use the mandate from that to fight off the scandals that seem to be incoming.

    Fighting a by-election in Essex on Farage's ethics doesn't make sense as a "change the subject" ruse- it puts them even more intensely under the spotlight. And if Farage wants to win, he is going to have to come out of hiding; releasing videos just isn't going to cut it.

    So I think the question boils down to this... did Nigel forget that the big parties didn't have to play by his rules- leaving him standing on the Liesure Centre stage by himself makes sense for them, after all? Or is his situation so dodgythat he has to roll the dice and hope?
    In the first by-election Farage has to spend it touring the constituency, pleading "I did nothing wrong!"

    Fast forward to the second by-election, where Farage's assertions in the first look at best unconvincing - as the Parliamentary authorities list what he did wrong.

    I'm not sure how he fights that second by-election. His credibility will be shot. And the full range of enemies will be ranged against him next time.

    Maybe he doesn't contest it.
    He'd look utterly ridiculous in that case. Not only his political but his lucrative public speaking career in America would be wrecked.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,185
    edited 9:16PM

    Hello from Spain. This Farage stunt. Is the idea that winning the by election means that all the questions and investigations about money are quietly dropped and never mentioned again?

    Because that isn’t how this works.

    The entire by election will be a continuous “who pays you” onslaught. He beats Binface. And then the first question is “who pays you” and the formal investigations continue.

    It’s bloody stupid.

    From the interviews Count Binface has given in the past there is a fairly sharp mind in that lump of metal. If I were him I would NOT stand stating that to do so would be beneath my dignity. That would be more chilling and finalising for Farage that all the other parties declining to stand put together. How about the Clacton Doggers Party to win with Commander Bill Boakes (resurrected) as candidate
    In addition to loads of comedy writing credits (Have I Got News For You, Thick of It, etc), he is a quesiton writer for Only Connect.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,455
    edited 9:16PM
    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Foss said:
    Good news for Philippe if she does as he polls better against her than Bardella
    4 goes at it is probably a step too far - time to let someone else take it on.
    Indeed, but this is probably her last and best chance for the Elysee so that is why she is going for it. Bardella will likely now be RN candidate for PM again as he was in the legislative elections
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,796

    Hello from Spain. This Farage stunt. Is the idea that winning the by election means that all the questions and investigations about money are quietly dropped and never mentioned again?

    Because that isn’t how this works.

    The entire by election will be a continuous “who pays you” onslaught. He beats Binface. And then the first question is “who pays you” and the formal investigations continue.

    It’s bloody stupid.

    From the interviews Count Binface has given in the past there is a fairly sharp mind in that lump of metal. If I were him I would NOT stand stating that to do so would be beneath my dignity. That would be more chilling and finalising for Farage that all the other parties declining to stand put together. How about the Clacton Doggers Party to win with Commander Bill Boakes (resurrected) as candidate
    The time for racism/road safety is nigh!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,374
    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    Err, totally expected from O'neill and Spiked. Who are funded by the famously not-Establishment billionaire Koch brothers

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,356
    kle4 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    Nonsensical is how I'd frame it. The people, working class or otherwise, are no more or less empowered than before his action, as it will have no bearing on whether he didn't declare huge financial gifts properly or not. It is a question of fact that a 100% voteshare would have literally no bearing on.

    How people react to those facts (if it were proven) is an entirely different matter, but that reveal will, again, need to wait until the stunt is over (unless the unthinkable were to happen and he doesn't get returned - which he will).
    "I love rumours! Facts can be so misleading, but rumours, true or false, are often revealing!"
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,921
    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    Err, totally expected from O'neill and Spiked. Who are funded by the famously not-Establishment billionaire Koch brothers

    Are you saying that Farage's backers are Kochs?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,796
    DougSeal said:



    Following from the Bread discussion earlier I came across this in my local on the way home

    Did it come with the ISIS-edged table?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,374
    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    Err, totally expected from O'neill and Spiked. Who are funded by the famously not-Establishment billionaire Koch brothers

    Are you saying that Farage's backers are Kochs?
    Something like that.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,404
    Andy_JS said:

    kle4 said:

    Another Conservative quits (in Canada). They don't seem to have any answer to Carney other than to moan that he shouldn't have been able to win and continue to embarrass them.
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-richard-martel-quebec-conservative-mp-senate-appointment/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    I can't stand Carney. I honestly don't know what Canadians see in him.
    I think he's great. His speech at Davos will be remembered for a very long time.
  • biggles said:

    eek said:

    In awful news - LNER now use Ricky Gervais's gin and whiskey which comes in impossible to open metal bottles.

    I'm 80 minutes into a 150 minute journey and appear to be the designated drop of point for problematic (half opened) bottles. I've got my 5th bottle already and I should in theory get 3 for the entire journey.

    This is a scandal that I wish more people would focus on. In a first class seat between Newcastle and London, they now only bring you free booze once per hour unless you sweet talk them.

    Questions should be asked in Parliament. When I have a first class seat, my glass should remain full.
    Only the Establishment sit in First Class :lol:
    Only the Hestablishment think it is better to sit in First Class. I must admit the trains I use most don't even have First Class but I do pity the clients of the Barristers who are reading / writing opinions on a matter on a train whether in First Class, third Class or no Class. I can't do serious work on a train and if I tried I would not be up to doing serious work when I reached my destination.

    A Level question, Does the Establishment exist ? Does it have a malign control of the United Kingdom and if it does when and how did it gain that control ?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,607
    algarkirk said:

    Matt Goodwin has been out in the sun without a hat:

    Nigel Farage just called a by-election in Clacton so that the People can take on the Rotten Establishment and take back their country. This is 4D chess.

    https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2074486311595937925

    Four hours later, it turned out to be 1D Peekaboo
    https://x.com/richardpbacon/status/2074564956339740850
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,185
    edited 9:25PM
    Workers in London are more exposed to an artificial intelligence-induced jobs cull than in any other major city, according to the world’s leading economics think tank, while growth in hiring for AI talent has been lower than in the EU, Canada and the US.

    A new OECD report from the Paris-based Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) warns that London had the highest number of jobs exposed to generative AI. The organisation’s researchers found that nearly four in five jobs were highly exposed to AI either now or in the near future, according to data shared in 2022.

    https://www.cityam.com/london-workers-most-exposed-to-ai-jobs-cull/
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,921
    Djokovic for the win here, I think.

    This Canadian guy is very useful, but he's choking.
  • Wulfrun_PhilWulfrun_Phil Posts: 5,308
    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    All Farage has done is to empower people to treat him as a figure of ridicule.

    Vote Binface!

    https://metro.co.uk/2026/07/07/count-binface-willing-take-farages-fake-pathetic-by-election-29078731/




  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 6,394
    Oil price manipulation time.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,568
    edited 9:29PM

    Hello from Spain. This Farage stunt. Is the idea that winning the by election means that all the questions and investigations about money are quietly dropped and never mentioned again?

    Because that isn’t how this works.

    The entire by election will be a continuous “who pays you” onslaught. He beats Binface. And then the first question is “who pays you” and the formal investigations continue.

    It’s bloody stupid.

    From the interviews Count Binface has given in the past there is a fairly sharp mind in that lump of metal. If I were him I would NOT stand stating that to do so would be beneath my dignity. That would be more chilling and finalising for Farage that all the other parties declining to stand put together. How about the Clacton Doggers Party to win with Commander Bill Boakes (resurrected) as candidate
    I think the Count's mask is made of cardboard.

    I really think he should stand. He is very popular and it would make Farage look like a right dickhead on the hustings with him.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,921

    Hello from Spain. This Farage stunt. Is the idea that winning the by election means that all the questions and investigations about money are quietly dropped and never mentioned again?

    Because that isn’t how this works.

    The entire by election will be a continuous “who pays you” onslaught. He beats Binface. And then the first question is “who pays you” and the formal investigations continue.

    It’s bloody stupid.

    From the interviews Count Binface has given in the past there is a fairly sharp mind in that lump of metal. If I were him I would NOT stand stating that to do so would be beneath my dignity. That would be more chilling and finalising for Farage that all the other parties declining to stand put together. How about the Clacton Doggers Party to win with Commander Bill Boakes (resurrected) as candidate
    I think the Counts mask is made if cardboard.

    I really think he should stand. He is very popular and it would make Farage look like a right dickhead on the hustings with him.
    You don't need a bloke with a bin on his head to achieve that.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,185
    Breaking - US launches strikes on Iran after tankers hit in Strait of Hormuz
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,455

    Breaking - US launches strikes on Iran after tankers hit in Strait of Hormuz

    That ceasefire off then
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,921

    Breaking - US launches strikes on Iran after tankers hit in Strait of Hormuz

    Had the price dropped below Trump's minimum or was something new seen in the Epstein files?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,749

    How is it that Archer struggled during the test series to get it down much more than 82-83 mph in the test match, T20 he rocks up and bowls 93 mph.

    In a T20 he knows he only has to bowl four overs and then he has a day or two of rest before the next four overs.

    In the Test he might have Joe Root asking him to bowl 20 overs in a day, and then still have to bowl the next day. And then the same again soon after.

    It's kinda obvious that it would be easier to crank it up in one of those scenarios than in the other.
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 2,066

    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    All Farage has done is to empower people to treat him as a figure of ridicule.

    Vote Binface!

    https://metro.co.uk/2026/07/07/count-binface-willing-take-farages-fake-pathetic-by-election-29078731/




    I'm a big believer in the value of the spectacle.

    I wonder if Binface v Farage is going to be the Portillo moment for the 2020s?

    Binface has certainly got out of the blocks well - and I can just see him capturing the public mood.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,062
    ydoethur said:

    maxh said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    All Farage has done is to empower people to treat him as a figure of ridicule.

    Vote Binface!

    https://metro.co.uk/2026/07/07/count-binface-willing-take-farages-fake-pathetic-by-election-29078731/




    I'm a big believer in the value of the spectacle.

    I wonder if Binface v Farage is going to be the Portillo moment for the 2020s?

    Binface has certainly got out of the blocks well - and I can just see him capturing the public mood.
    There would be a truly delicious irony if Farage, who has spent his whole career as a disruptor and outsider, was finished off because he was the establishment candidate who lost to a joker.

    Stewart Wood
    @StewartWood
    ·
    1h
    Count Binface campaign slogan should be: "Wouldn't it be funny if he lost?"
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,921

    ydoethur said:

    maxh said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    All Farage has done is to empower people to treat him as a figure of ridicule.

    Vote Binface!

    https://metro.co.uk/2026/07/07/count-binface-willing-take-farages-fake-pathetic-by-election-29078731/




    I'm a big believer in the value of the spectacle.

    I wonder if Binface v Farage is going to be the Portillo moment for the 2020s?

    Binface has certainly got out of the blocks well - and I can just see him capturing the public mood.
    There would be a truly delicious irony if Farage, who has spent his whole career as a disruptor and outsider, was finished off because he was the establishment candidate who lost to a joker.

    Stewart Wood
    @StewartWood
    ·
    1h
    Count Binface campaign slogan should be: "Wouldn't it be funny if he lost?"
    I'd have that for Djokovic too, but alas my touch has deserted me.

    Whatever his dubiety, he's an extraordinary talent.
  • eekeek Posts: 34,425
    biggles said:

    eek said:

    In awful news - LNER now use Ricky Gervais's gin and whiskey which comes in impossible to open metal bottles.

    I'm 80 minutes into a 150 minute journey and appear to be the designated drop of point for problematic (half opened) bottles. I've got my 5th bottle already and I should in theory get 3 for the entire journey.

    This is a scandal that I wish more people would focus on. In a first class seat between Newcastle and London, they now only bring you free booze once per hour unless you sweet talk them.

    Questions should be asked in Parliament. When I have a first class seat, my glass should remain full.
    It's worse than that - on my journey down south yesterday cold drinks were only offered after York and Peterborough...

    Now I could have half heartedly complained (as I knew the people working) but that would have created problems if I encountered them on a return leg - I do like a reputation of being polite, vaguely funny and not argumentative...
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,734
    edited 9:42PM
    There's nothing to stop Farage/Reform donating the cost of the by-election to the British treasury, because IIRC about 15 years ago a woman who died donated most of her life savings in her will to the government in order to make "a small dent in the British national debt".
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,185
    edited 9:41PM
    I hate the final set tie break. The magic of those 847 / 845* game final set matches were epic.

    * obviously joking, but I seemed to remember one went something like 70/68.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,541
    Longest match since the fifth-set tiebreak was introduced. Tiebreak time...
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,455
    Most Britons are opposed to consultants going on strike, following their vote to strike over pay and pensions

    Support: 31%
    Oppose: 58%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2074527905309151589?s=20
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,822
    edited 9:42PM

    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    All Farage has done is to empower people to treat him as a figure of ridicule.

    Vote Binface!

    https://metro.co.uk/2026/07/07/count-binface-willing-take-farages-fake-pathetic-by-election-29078731/




    • People who use speakerphones on public transport to be conscripted.

    • Auto-renew on all online subscriptions to be abolished immediately.

    In all fairness, I always assumed the Binster was a charlatan and an opportunist.

    I was clearly wrong - a couple of policies there that will change the world for the better.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,921

    I hate the final set tie break. The magic of those 847 / 845* game final set matches were epic.

    * obviously joking, but I seemed to remember one went something like 70/68.

    Isner v Mahut. Took three days.
  • eekeek Posts: 34,425
    edited 9:42PM

    Well, this would seem to be an unprovoked error from Farage. It is a strange one really, the fate of David Davis is obvious to all. But, perhaps David Davis has a warmer appreciation as an elder statesman because of what he did in 2008. I can see that having the by-election now MIGHT mean that the ludicrous process of gathering 10% of the electorate to call a by-election after Farage has been kangarooed might not work. somehow I don't think that was the idea.

    Is Farage trying to provoke a GE ? I don't think so. It makes it somewhat more difficult for the Manchester Phenomenon to call a GE before Farage's trial is over. Three weeks ago those who know were saying the GE would be May 2027 and Lee Anderson would be leading Reform. This was seen as preferable to Oct 2026 with Farage collapsing in credibility during the campaign and so by default favouring the Leftists.

    The only way of interpreting this that makes sense that I can see is to win a pre-emptive by-election against all-comers and then use the mandate from that to fight off the scandals that seem to be incoming.

    Fighting a by-election in Essex on Farage's ethics doesn't make sense as a "change the subject" ruse- it puts them even more intensely under the spotlight. And if Farage wants to win, he is going to have to come out of hiding; releasing videos just isn't going to cut it.

    So I think the question boils down to this... did Nigel forget that the big parties didn't have to play by his rules- leaving him standing on the Liesure Centre stage by himself makes sense for them, after all? Or is his situation so dodgythat he has to roll the dice and hope?
    I think he knows other stories that make the £5m look straight up and honest are coming...

    It wouldn't surprise me if 45 minutes before nominations close he announces Matt Goodwin or AN other dodgy f**cker is the Clapton candidate.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,455
    In a head to head between Nigel Farage and Andy Burnham for best prime minister...

    Andy Burnham: 43%
    Nigel Farage: 23%

    Kemi much closer

    Andy Burnham: 32%
    Kemi Badenoch: 28%

    https://x.com/YouGov/status/2074496559601885548?s=20
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,185

    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    All Farage has done is to empower people to treat him as a figure of ridicule.

    Vote Binface!

    https://metro.co.uk/2026/07/07/count-binface-willing-take-farages-fake-pathetic-by-election-29078731/




    • People who use speakerphones on public transport to be conscripted.

    • Auto-renew on all online subscriptions to be abolished immediately.

    In all fairness, I always assumed the Binster was a charlatan and an opportunist.

    I was clearly wrong - a couple of policies there that will change the world for the better.
    I seemed to remember that a couple of Monster Raving Loony Party policies over the years have ended up becoming law (or a very similar version of what they proposed).
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,822
    ydoethur said:

    I hate the final set tie break. The magic of those 847 / 845* game final set matches were epic.

    * obviously joking, but I seemed to remember one went something like 70/68.

    Isner v Mahut. Took three days.
    And was awful and incredibly boring.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,749
    ydoethur said:

    Breaking - US launches strikes on Iran after tankers hit in Strait of Hormuz

    Had the price dropped below Trump's minimum or was something new seen in the Epstein files?
    Russian Urals oil had dropped back down to its pre-Iran-war price level.
  • pm215pm215 Posts: 1,449
    Andy_JS said:

    There's nothing to stop Farage/Reform donating the cost of the by-election to the British treasury, because IIRC about 15 years ago a woman who died donated most of her life savings in her will to the government in order to make "a small dent in the British national debt".

    If anybody wishes to follow suit all the details are online: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/voluntary-payments-donations-to-government -- you can make a payment towards general expenditure or towards reducing the national debt, according to your philosophical preferences. Apparently the National Debt Reduction Act 1823 explicitly set up a Donations and Bequests account, so the public spirited have been able to make a dent for over two hundred years.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,362
    edited 9:47PM

    I hate the final set tie break. The magic of those 847 / 845* game final set matches were epic.

    * obviously joking, but I seemed to remember one went something like 70/68.

    Isner/Mahut The final set was by itself longer than the previous longest match in history.

    I get why that was a bit much, but they could at least have gone to 10/10 before going for a tie break. I think that was even trialled before they went all weak with it.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,185
    edited 9:48PM
    kle4 said:

    I hate the final set tie break. The magic of those 847 / 845* game final set matches were epic.

    * obviously joking, but I seemed to remember one went something like 70/68.

    Isner/Mahut The final set was by itself longer than the previous longest match in history.

    I get why that was a bit much, but they could at least have gone to 10/10 before going for a tie break.
    I think something like that is a fair comprise, bit like extra time in football or ice hockey. There is extra games played but if you can't break through, then the equivalent of the penalty shoot out.
  • ManchesterKurtManchesterKurt Posts: 1,055
    edited 9:48PM
    eek said:

    biggles said:

    eek said:

    In awful news - LNER now use Ricky Gervais's gin and whiskey which comes in impossible to open metal bottles.

    I'm 80 minutes into a 150 minute journey and appear to be the designated drop of point for problematic (half opened) bottles. I've got my 5th bottle already and I should in theory get 3 for the entire journey.

    This is a scandal that I wish more people would focus on. In a first class seat between Newcastle and London, they now only bring you free booze once per hour unless you sweet talk them.

    Questions should be asked in Parliament. When I have a first class seat, my glass should remain full.
    It's worse than that - on my journey down south yesterday cold drinks were only offered after York and Peterborough...

    Now I could have half heartedly complained (as I knew the people working) but that would have created problems if I encountered them on a return leg - I do like a reputation of being polite, vaguely funny and not argumentative...
    Old world Virgin West Coast, First class used to be 'unlimited' drinks in first class.

    Turns out 'unlimited' equals eight bottles for the Euston to Piccadilly service and no more.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,362

    ydoethur said:

    I hate the final set tie break. The magic of those 847 / 845* game final set matches were epic.

    * obviously joking, but I seemed to remember one went something like 70/68.

    Isner v Mahut. Took three days.
    And was awful and incredibly boring.
    A very freak occurrence though. Was it really necessary to just get rid of extended fifth sets because one match went ridiculously long? Felt disproportionate.
  • eekeek Posts: 34,425
    edited 9:50PM

    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    All Farage has done is to empower people to treat him as a figure of ridicule.

    Vote Binface!

    https://metro.co.uk/2026/07/07/count-binface-willing-take-farages-fake-pathetic-by-election-29078731/




    • People who use speakerphones on public transport to be conscripted.

    • Auto-renew on all online subscriptions to be abolished immediately.

    In all fairness, I always assumed the Binster was a charlatan and an opportunist.

    I was clearly wrong - a couple of policies there that will change the world for the better.
    I seemed to remember that a couple of Monster Raving Loony Party policies over the years have ended up becoming law (or a very similar version of what they proposed).
    He doesn't even need to go as far as auto-renew on online subscriptions to be abolished - subscriptions being stopped in the way they were initially started would be enough.

    I do feel (vaguely) sorry for the Telegraph subscription person I attack about the unfairness of having to phone up to cancel until the renewal at £30 appears and I accept it (it's now been 3 years just keep the renewal at £29 and we will all be happy).
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,362
    eek said:

    Well, this would seem to be an unprovoked error from Farage. It is a strange one really, the fate of David Davis is obvious to all. But, perhaps David Davis has a warmer appreciation as an elder statesman because of what he did in 2008. I can see that having the by-election now MIGHT mean that the ludicrous process of gathering 10% of the electorate to call a by-election after Farage has been kangarooed might not work. somehow I don't think that was the idea.

    Is Farage trying to provoke a GE ? I don't think so. It makes it somewhat more difficult for the Manchester Phenomenon to call a GE before Farage's trial is over. Three weeks ago those who know were saying the GE would be May 2027 and Lee Anderson would be leading Reform. This was seen as preferable to Oct 2026 with Farage collapsing in credibility during the campaign and so by default favouring the Leftists.

    The only way of interpreting this that makes sense that I can see is to win a pre-emptive by-election against all-comers and then use the mandate from that to fight off the scandals that seem to be incoming.

    Fighting a by-election in Essex on Farage's ethics doesn't make sense as a "change the subject" ruse- it puts them even more intensely under the spotlight. And if Farage wants to win, he is going to have to come out of hiding; releasing videos just isn't going to cut it.

    So I think the question boils down to this... did Nigel forget that the big parties didn't have to play by his rules- leaving him standing on the Liesure Centre stage by himself makes sense for them, after all? Or is his situation so dodgythat he has to roll the dice and hope?
    I think he knows other stories that make the £5m look straight up and honest are coming...

    It wouldn't surprise me if 45 minutes before nominations close he announces Matt Goodwin or AN other dodgy f**cker is the Clapton candidate.
    That's Andrew Nicholas Other-Dodgy-Fucker (of the Hampshire Dodgy-Fuckers), thank you very much. Good man, good family.
  • Wulfrun_PhilWulfrun_Phil Posts: 5,308

    ydoethur said:

    maxh said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    All Farage has done is to empower people to treat him as a figure of ridicule.

    Vote Binface!

    https://metro.co.uk/2026/07/07/count-binface-willing-take-farages-fake-pathetic-by-election-29078731/




    I'm a big believer in the value of the spectacle.

    I wonder if Binface v Farage is going to be the Portillo moment for the 2020s?

    Binface has certainly got out of the blocks well - and I can just see him capturing the public mood.
    There would be a truly delicious irony if Farage, who has spent his whole career as a disruptor and outsider, was finished off because he was the establishment candidate who lost to a joker.

    Stewart Wood
    @StewartWood
    ·
    1h
    Count Binface campaign slogan should be: "Wouldn't it be funny if he lost?"
    There may be some very generous odds initially available when the bookies eventually wake up and add Binface to the Clacton market.

    https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/clacton-by-election
  • TresTres Posts: 3,736
    eek said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    All Farage has done is to empower people to treat him as a figure of ridicule.

    Vote Binface!

    https://metro.co.uk/2026/07/07/count-binface-willing-take-farages-fake-pathetic-by-election-29078731/




    • People who use speakerphones on public transport to be conscripted.

    • Auto-renew on all online subscriptions to be abolished immediately.

    In all fairness, I always assumed the Binster was a charlatan and an opportunist.

    I was clearly wrong - a couple of policies there that will change the world for the better.
    I seemed to remember that a couple of Monster Raving Loony Party policies over the years have ended up becoming law (or a very similar version of what they proposed).
    He doesn't even need to go as far as auto-renew on online subscriptions to be abolished - subscriptions being stopped in the way they were initially started would be enough.

    I do feel (vaguely) sorry for the Telegraph subscription person I attack about the unfairness of having to phone up to cancel until the renewal at £30 appears and I accept it (it's now been 3 years just keep the renewal at £29 and we will all be happy).
    30 quid, they seen you coming
  • DriverDriver Posts: 5,662
    eek said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    All Farage has done is to empower people to treat him as a figure of ridicule.

    Vote Binface!

    https://metro.co.uk/2026/07/07/count-binface-willing-take-farages-fake-pathetic-by-election-29078731/




    • People who use speakerphones on public transport to be conscripted.

    • Auto-renew on all online subscriptions to be abolished immediately.

    In all fairness, I always assumed the Binster was a charlatan and an opportunist.

    I was clearly wrong - a couple of policies there that will change the world for the better.
    I seemed to remember that a couple of Monster Raving Loony Party policies over the years have ended up becoming law (or a very similar version of what they proposed).
    He doesn't even need to go as far as auto-renew on online subscriptions to be abolished - subscriptions being stopped in the way they were initially started would be enough.

    I do feel (vaguely) sorry for the Telegraph subscription person I attack about the unfairness of having to phone up to cancel until the renewal at £30 appears and I accept it (it's now been 3 years just keep the renewal at £29 and we will all be happy).
    I think that's already being brought in.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg0v36ek2go?app-referrer=deep-link
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,822

    ydoethur said:

    maxh said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    All Farage has done is to empower people to treat him as a figure of ridicule.

    Vote Binface!

    https://metro.co.uk/2026/07/07/count-binface-willing-take-farages-fake-pathetic-by-election-29078731/




    I'm a big believer in the value of the spectacle.

    I wonder if Binface v Farage is going to be the Portillo moment for the 2020s?

    Binface has certainly got out of the blocks well - and I can just see him capturing the public mood.
    There would be a truly delicious irony if Farage, who has spent his whole career as a disruptor and outsider, was finished off because he was the establishment candidate who lost to a joker.

    Stewart Wood
    @StewartWood
    ·
    1h
    Count Binface campaign slogan should be: "Wouldn't it be funny if he lost?"
    There may be some very generous odds initially available when the bookies eventually wake up and add Binface to the Clacton market.

    https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/clacton-by-election
    He’s available at 11s on Betfair
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,575
    Scott_xP said:

    @implausibleblog.bsky.social‬

    Robert Jenrick has a meltdown on #C4News

    He refuses to accept that there are parliamentary rules that Nigel Farage may have broken

    And insists the only people who can judge Nigel Farage are the people of Clacton

    😅 - Whatever you do, please don't share this humiliating clip

    https://bsky.app/profile/implausibleblog.bsky.social/post/3mq3eoiznrk2p

    Jenrick has been very strong in supporting Farage on an extremely sticky wicket. I've seen a lot more of him than I have of Yusuf.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,734
    edited 9:55PM
    Djokovic showing that age doesn't matter. He wins 3 sets to 2 in 5 hours 15 mins.
  • eekeek Posts: 34,425
    edited 9:58PM

    eek said:

    biggles said:

    eek said:

    In awful news - LNER now use Ricky Gervais's gin and whiskey which comes in impossible to open metal bottles.

    I'm 80 minutes into a 150 minute journey and appear to be the designated drop of point for problematic (half opened) bottles. I've got my 5th bottle already and I should in theory get 3 for the entire journey.

    This is a scandal that I wish more people would focus on. In a first class seat between Newcastle and London, they now only bring you free booze once per hour unless you sweet talk them.

    Questions should be asked in Parliament. When I have a first class seat, my glass should remain full.
    It's worse than that - on my journey down south yesterday cold drinks were only offered after York and Peterborough...

    Now I could have half heartedly complained (as I knew the people working) but that would have created problems if I encountered them on a return leg - I do like a reputation of being polite, vaguely funny and not argumentative...
    Old world Virgin West Coast, First class used to be 'unlimited' drinks in first class.

    Turns out 'unlimited' equals eight bottles for the Euston to Piccadilly service and no more.
    Depends on the size of the bottles though - 8 bottles of Champagne is better than I've managed in a lounge at CDG when my plane was delayed a few hours.

    Being serious for about 5 months I used to have 9am to 4:30pm in one of KLM's Schiphol lounges on a Friday. After about week 3/4 one of my preferred tables was kept available for me and I would sit there chatting to staff for hours doing the very add meeting. That was very much regulate your intake to make sure you didn't wreck your entire weekend.

    Twas way better than going to MS's office where I would end up being asked to do some work as a favour..
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,471
    edited 9:58PM
    Wow ! Djokovic is an absolute legend . I know he’s a Marmite character but really at 39 playing like this .

    He at least has 2 days off and Sinner has had a very easy draw and has really not impressed. I’ve not been a Djokovic fan but you simply have to respect what he’s doing . He deserves to get to 25 grand slams .
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,309
    edited 9:59PM
    Andy_JS said:

    There's nothing to stop Farage/Reform donating the cost of the by-election to the British treasury, because IIRC about 15 years ago a woman who died donated most of her life savings in her will to the government in order to make "a small dent in the British national debt".

    Elections are run by lower-tier councils, however. So it's not HM Treasury they need to donate to, it's Tendring District Council. The council is run by an Independent/Labour/Lib Dem coalition, and the notion of Farage giving £££ to the Lib Dems is quite amusing.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,541
    edited 9:58PM
    eek said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    All Farage has done is to empower people to treat him as a figure of ridicule.

    Vote Binface!

    https://metro.co.uk/2026/07/07/count-binface-willing-take-farages-fake-pathetic-by-election-29078731/




    • People who use speakerphones on public transport to be conscripted.

    • Auto-renew on all online subscriptions to be abolished immediately.

    In all fairness, I always assumed the Binster was a charlatan and an opportunist.

    I was clearly wrong - a couple of policies there that will change the world for the better.
    I seemed to remember that a couple of Monster Raving Loony Party policies over the years have ended up becoming law (or a very similar version of what they proposed).
    He doesn't even need to go as far as auto-renew on online subscriptions to be abolished - subscriptions being stopped in the way they were initially started would be enough.

    I do feel (vaguely) sorry for the Telegraph subscription person I attack about the unfairness of having to phone up to cancel until the renewal at £30 appears and I accept it (it's now been 3 years just keep the renewal at £29 and we will all be happy).
    For my gym, the procedure is simply to cancel the direct debit, and when they notice they stop letting you in. This seems to be universal among the big cheap chains. How it got that way without regulation, I don't quite know...
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,734
    The establishment are absolutely desperate to bring down Farage. And you can understand why. He's on course to win the next general election.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,721
    kle4 said:

    ydoethur said:

    I hate the final set tie break. The magic of those 847 / 845* game final set matches were epic.

    * obviously joking, but I seemed to remember one went something like 70/68.

    Isner v Mahut. Took three days.
    And was awful and incredibly boring.
    A very freak occurrence though. Was it really necessary to just get rid of extended fifth sets because one match went ridiculously long? Felt disproportionate.
    Could always just play best of three sets. If it’s good enough for the women?

    #5sets4women

  • eekeek Posts: 34,425
    nico67 said:

    Wow ! Djokovic is an absolute legend . I know he’s a Marmite character but really at 39 playing like this .

    He at least has 2 days off and Sinner has had a very easy draw and has really not impressed. I’ve not been a Djokovic fan but you simply have to respect what he’s doing .

    If he does pull of a 25th win it will confirm that he is (annoyingly) the GOAT simply because of how late the last one came and how much work he's done to get it.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,796
    Why are Switzerland and Colombia even bothering?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,721
    Andy_JS said:

    The establishment are absolutely desperate to bring down Farage. And you can understand why. He's on course to win the next general election.

    And if he does he would likely bring division, strife and hatred to this great country of ours. The man is an absolute tit. Being in the EU had its challenges, but it wasn’t that bad.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,162
    Andy_JS said:

    The establishment are absolutely desperate to bring down Farage. And you can understand why. He's on course to win the next general election.

    It's amazing the way they seduced him to take a £5million "gift" from a dodgy donor and not declare it (in contravention of election law), whilst spending about 5 seconds per year in his constituency. Bad Establishment!
  • eekeek Posts: 34,425
    Tres said:

    eek said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The unexpected view from Spiked and Brendan O'Neill.

    "Nigel Farage lays down the gauntlet
    In triggering a by-election in Clacton, he has disarmed the media elites and empowered working-class people."

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/07/07/nigel-farage-lays-down-the-gauntlet/

    All Farage has done is to empower people to treat him as a figure of ridicule.

    Vote Binface!

    https://metro.co.uk/2026/07/07/count-binface-willing-take-farages-fake-pathetic-by-election-29078731/




    • People who use speakerphones on public transport to be conscripted.

    • Auto-renew on all online subscriptions to be abolished immediately.

    In all fairness, I always assumed the Binster was a charlatan and an opportunist.

    I was clearly wrong - a couple of policies there that will change the world for the better.
    I seemed to remember that a couple of Monster Raving Loony Party policies over the years have ended up becoming law (or a very similar version of what they proposed).
    He doesn't even need to go as far as auto-renew on online subscriptions to be abolished - subscriptions being stopped in the way they were initially started would be enough.

    I do feel (vaguely) sorry for the Telegraph subscription person I attack about the unfairness of having to phone up to cancel until the renewal at £30 appears and I accept it (it's now been 3 years just keep the renewal at £29 and we will all be happy).
    30 quid, they seen you coming
    Oh it's what I pay for the Times every month, so to me it's a decent deal.

    And until my parent's die I can't really kill that subscription - even if I ignore the £10,000 holiday I won through them back in 2016...
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 7,218
    eek said:

    biggles said:

    eek said:

    In awful news - LNER now use Ricky Gervais's gin and whiskey which comes in impossible to open metal bottles.

    I'm 80 minutes into a 150 minute journey and appear to be the designated drop of point for problematic (half opened) bottles. I've got my 5th bottle already and I should in theory get 3 for the entire journey.

    This is a scandal that I wish more people would focus on. In a first class seat between Newcastle and London, they now only bring you free booze once per hour unless you sweet talk them.

    Questions should be asked in Parliament. When I have a first class seat, my glass should remain full.
    It's worse than that - on my journey down south yesterday cold drinks were only offered after York and Peterborough...

    Now I could have half heartedly complained (as I knew the people working) but that would have created problems if I encountered them on a return leg - I do like a reputation of being polite, vaguely funny and not argumentative...
    Cruel and unusual punishment. Will no one think of us in their manifestos?
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,471
    Andy_JS said:

    The establishment are absolutely desperate to bring down Farage. And you can understand why. He's on course to win the next general election.

    He’s only a few points ahead and Reform could implode as their policies come under more scrutiny. Reform offer nothing to this country but hate and division . We don’t want to go down the road that the USA has taken .
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 7,218
    pm215 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    There's nothing to stop Farage/Reform donating the cost of the by-election to the British treasury, because IIRC about 15 years ago a woman who died donated most of her life savings in her will to the government in order to make "a small dent in the British national debt".

    If anybody wishes to follow suit all the details are online: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/voluntary-payments-donations-to-government -- you can make a payment towards general expenditure or towards reducing the national debt, according to your philosophical preferences. Apparently the National Debt Reduction Act 1823 explicitly set up a Donations and Bequests account, so the public spirited have been able to make a dent for over two hundred years.
    Can I do a charge back for the un-filled potholes?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,721
    nico67 said:

    Wow ! Djokovic is an absolute legend . I know he’s a Marmite character but really at 39 playing like this .

    He at least has 2 days off and Sinner has had a very easy draw and has really not impressed. I’ve not been a Djokovic fan but you simply have to respect what he’s doing . He deserves to get to 25 grand slams .

    I’m gradually warming to him. Still think he was an absolute bell end over Covid, but then many were. He has undoubtedly been the hardest working of the three greats of the last twenty years. Perhaps not the leonine grace of Federer or the sheer athleticism of Nadal, but he just wants it so much.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,822
    I’ve take Count Binface at 10.0 for a small stake. Probably a value loser but worth it to keep interest in this fiasco.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,642
    Andy_JS said:

    The establishment are absolutely desperate to bring down Farage. And you can understand why. He's on course to win the next general election.

    Farage is doing quite a good job of bringing himself down
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,471

    nico67 said:

    Wow ! Djokovic is an absolute legend . I know he’s a Marmite character but really at 39 playing like this .

    He at least has 2 days off and Sinner has had a very easy draw and has really not impressed. I’ve not been a Djokovic fan but you simply have to respect what he’s doing . He deserves to get to 25 grand slams .

    I’m gradually warming to him. Still think he was an absolute bell end over Covid, but then many were. He has undoubtedly been the hardest working of the three greats of the last twenty years. Perhaps not the leonine grace of Federer or the sheer athleticism of Nadal, but he just wants it so much.
    Federer was the most beautiful player to watch , almost balletic but for sheer determination and will to win Djokovic continues to astound .
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,541

    nico67 said:

    Wow ! Djokovic is an absolute legend . I know he’s a Marmite character but really at 39 playing like this .

    He at least has 2 days off and Sinner has had a very easy draw and has really not impressed. I’ve not been a Djokovic fan but you simply have to respect what he’s doing . He deserves to get to 25 grand slams .

    I’m gradually warming to him. Still think he was an absolute bell end over Covid, but then many were. He has undoubtedly been the hardest working of the three greats of the last twenty years. Perhaps not the leonine grace of Federer or the sheer athleticism of Nadal, but he just wants it so much.
    Yeah, he's a warrior. Also, a bit of a dick.

    Shades of the boy who bullied you and then made you shake his hand afterward because he's a gentleman.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,062
    Greens out.


    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    16m
    Official. Count Binface v The Establishment Candidate.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,062
    There's not enough popcorn in the whole of Europe for this by-election.

  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,541

    Greens out.


    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    16m
    Official. Count Binface v The Establishment Candidate.

    Given how much centrist dads love Binface, he may be the establishment.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,734
    "Owen Jones
    @owenjonesjourno

    The Greens should stand against Nigel Farage in Clacton.

    They're the only major party willing to take on the substance of Farage.

    The other parties built up Farage by copying his toxic agenda.

    The Greens should use the by-election as a national platform to make that case."

    https://x.com/owenjonesjourno/status/2074557736554041511
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