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  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 6,392
    Pro_Rata said:

    Just looked at the score. Do I need to dig out my African team game management post again, this knockout stage would look radically different with 75 minute games.

    Natch.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,350
    Er, still 5 minutes left for Egypt to equalise!
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,638
    Salah mistake

    3 - 2
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,542
    That HMS Sheffield analogy was right after all.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,572

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,718
    Is there anything to stop candidates standing under the labels "Independent Labour", "Independent Liberal Democrat", "Independent Green", "Independent Conservative"?
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,188

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    Doing what?
  • TazTaz Posts: 29,219

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    Really.

    He never visits his constituency. I know this because lots of people who don’t live there and don’t know the area keep saying this is the case.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,179

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    PMSL. 🤣

    Turning up at a pub every now and then is more punishing than being Prime Minister?

    Or any other Minister?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,350
    Taz said:

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    Really.

    He never visits his constituency. I know this because lots of people who don’t live there and don’t know the area keep saying this is the case.
    Do you live there?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,638
    Great game
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,350
    Andy_JS said:

    Is there anything to stop candidates standing under the labels "Independent Labour", "Independent Liberal Democrat", "Independent Green", "Independent Conservative"?

    Independent Reform?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,350
    Taz said:

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    Really.

    He never visits his constituency. I know this because lots of people who don’t live there and don’t know the area keep saying this is the case.
    Fun fact - the last time I visited Clacton was the day Liz Truss became Tory Leader!
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,044
    Surely I'm not the first to note that Cunning Stunts was a Caravan LP?

  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,986

    Andy_JS said:

    Is there anything to stop candidates standing under the labels "Independent Labour", "Independent Liberal Democrat", "Independent Green", "Independent Conservative"?

    Independent Reform?
    Independent Binface.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,324
    AnneJGP said:

    carnforth said:

    Brazil and Argentina out? All being well we shall lose to France in the final.

    I thought Mr Trump would insist that USA had to be in the final.
    Some things are beyond even Fifa's shameless willingness to bend over.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,179
    Andy_JS said:

    Is there anything to stop candidates standing under the labels "Independent Labour", "Independent Liberal Democrat", "Independent Green", "Independent Conservative"?

    The Registration of Political Parties Act?
  • TazTaz Posts: 29,219

    Taz said:

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    Really.

    He never visits his constituency. I know this because lots of people who don’t live there and don’t know the area keep saying this is the case.
    Do you live there?
    I don’t offer a view whether or not he visits the constituency.

    I just find it comical plenty of others who don’t seem to know his every move 😂😂😂😂
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,044
    kle4 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    carnforth said:

    Brazil and Argentina out? All being well we shall lose to France in the final.

    I thought Mr Trump would insist that USA had to be in the final.
    Some things are beyond even Fifa's shameless willingness to bend over.
    It's not over yet.

    If all the other teams withdraw then USA gets it?

  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,747

    Conditional on the greens standing (and no other party reconsidering), what price should they be? I was thinking about those 100s but they've gone and I'm not sure they were value anyway.

    Just over 75% of the vote in 2024 went to the Tories and candidates to their right. Very hard to see a party not to the right of centre winning, whatever the extraordinary circumstances.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,044
    This week's most important advice:



    John Bolton
    @AmbJohnBolton

    My advice to NATO leaders in Ankara: your goal is to keep at least some semblance of NATO alive until January 2029.

    https://x.com/AmbJohnBolton/status/2074500795534397934
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,542
    Andy_JS said:

    Is there anything to stop candidates standing under the labels "Independent Labour", "Independent Liberal Democrat", "Independent Green", "Independent Conservative"?

    Yes.

    Candidates for election could no longer be described as an "Independent Conservative" or "Independent Liberal" on a ballot paper, as the 1998 Act prohibits any description which could cause confusion with a registered political party. In practice, the description used is either the name of a registered party or the word "Independent"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registration_of_Political_Parties_Act_1998
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,350
    Such is life!

    Argentina 3-2 Egypt
  • TazTaz Posts: 29,219
    All over.

    Argentina 3 Gallant losers 2
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,642
    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    Omsk oil refinery, Russia's largest, ​has stopped operations following the Ukrainian drone attack, Reuters reports.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,044
    It's going to Messi vs Bellingham isn't it for a game of the ages?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,044
    It's going to Messi vs Bellingham isn't it for a game of the ages?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,044
    Christopher Hope📝

    @christopherhope
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    Breaking

    Labour will not stand against Nigel Farage in Clacton
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,350

    Christopher Hope📝

    @christopherhope
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    43m
    Breaking

    Labour will not stand against Nigel Farage in Clacton

    I only watch GB News for "research" purposes.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,044
    edited 6:10PM
    On and on it goes. More and more grifting...


    Gabriel Pogrund
    @Gabriel_Pogrund
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    31m
    BREAKING🚨

    The Telegraph reports George Cottrell's mother made a ***£1m*** payment to Richard Tice's company, half of which was donated to Reform

    And that George Cottrell loaned £80K to Tice

    We approached Fiona Cottrell about the above before our piece - she wouldn't comment

    https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/2074548460007665725
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,248
    Taz said:

    All over.

    Argentina 3 Gallant losers 2

    Though a gallant loser is still one step up from an ungallant loser. Which is what NF increasingly looks like.

    Anyone know if he's actually resigned, or does he have the chance to wuss out?
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 6,091

    It's going to Messi vs Bellingham isn't it for a game of the ages?

    We have Haaland v Kane first.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,324
    Andy_JS said:

    Is there anything to stop candidates standing under the labels "Independent Labour", "Independent Liberal Democrat", "Independent Green", "Independent Conservative"?

    What descriptions may be used?

    A candidate may only use one of the following descriptions:3

    the word ‘Independent’ or, in Wales, ‘Independent’ and/or ‘Annibynnol’
    the registered party name of a registered political party
    one of the descriptions the party has registered with the Commission

    https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/guidance-acting-returning-officers-administering-a-uk-parliamentary-election-great-britain/nominations/forms-nomination/use-party-names-and-party-descriptions
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,372
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    Really.

    He never visits his constituency. I know this because lots of people who don’t live there and don’t know the area keep saying this is the case.
    Do you live there?
    I don’t offer a view whether or not he visits the constituency.

    I just find it comical plenty of others who don’t seem to know his every move 😂😂😂😂
    Despite his £5 million for security he is yet to hold a constituency surgery.
  • eekeek Posts: 34,401
    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    Really.

    He never visits his constituency. I know this because lots of people who don’t live there and don’t know the area keep saying this is the case.
    Do you live there?
    I don’t offer a view whether or not he visits the constituency.

    I just find it comical plenty of others who don’t seem to know his every move 😂😂😂😂
    Despite his £5 million for security he is yet to hold a constituency surgery.
    That's very likely to be the bit that destroys him - I promise to turn up once a year and not just at elections...
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,981

    On and on it goes. More and more grifting...


    Gabriel Pogrund
    @Gabriel_Pogrund
    ·
    31m
    BREAKING🚨

    The Telegraph reports George Cottrell's mother made a ***£1m*** payment to Richard Tice's company, half of which was donated to Reform

    And that George Cottrell loaned £80K to Tice

    We approached Fiona Cottrell about the above before our piece - she wouldn't comment

    https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/2074548460007665725

    Cottrell looks like being more problematic than Harborne.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,324

    This week's most important advice:



    John Bolton
    @AmbJohnBolton

    My advice to NATO leaders in Ankara: your goal is to keep at least some semblance of NATO alive until January 2029.

    https://x.com/AmbJohnBolton/status/2074500795534397934

    A zombie NATO will still be around. But it seems optimistic to think the fact 40% of Americans despise their NATO allies will not change things.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,897

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    I'd frame it as an attempt to try and set the agenda.

    I'm not commenting on how well it will work.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,166

    On and on it goes. More and more grifting...


    Gabriel Pogrund
    @Gabriel_Pogrund
    ·
    31m
    BREAKING🚨

    The Telegraph reports George Cottrell's mother made a ***£1m*** payment to Richard Tice's company, half of which was donated to Reform

    And that George Cottrell loaned £80K to Tice

    We approached Fiona Cottrell about the above before our piece - she wouldn't comment

    https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/2074548460007665725

    Interesting that its the Telegraph as it went very Reformy-graph over the past year or so. Remember they initially ran defence for Farage over the original £5m gift story.
  • TazTaz Posts: 29,219
    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    Really.

    He never visits his constituency. I know this because lots of people who don’t live there and don’t know the area keep saying this is the case.
    Do you live there?
    I don’t offer a view whether or not he visits the constituency.

    I just find it comical plenty of others who don’t seem to know his every move 😂😂😂😂
    Despite his £5 million for security he is yet to hold a constituency surgery.
    Nice of you to subcontract concern on behalf of his constituents.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,718
    The fact that Farage has to spend a lot of money on security isn't his fault. It's the fault of the people who threaten him.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,324
    Isn't this a question that should have been settled a long time ago? People are unlikely to say fewer people should receive the care, its providing it and paying for it that are at issue, and that question hasn't changed in 10 years (apart from getting worse).

    The public will be asked who should receive social care and how it should be paid for as part of a review into the system.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg49lq1jw6o
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 35,572

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    PMSL. 🤣

    Turning up at a pub every now and then is more punishing than being Prime Minister?

    Or any other Minister?
    The infantile level of debate here concerning Reform issues is quite extraordinary.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,606
    .

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    Yes, all those transatlantic flight to kiss Trump's arse must take their toll.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,789

    On and on it goes. More and more grifting...


    Gabriel Pogrund
    @Gabriel_Pogrund
    ·
    31m
    BREAKING🚨

    The Telegraph reports George Cottrell's mother made a ***£1m*** payment to Richard Tice's company, half of which was donated to Reform

    And that George Cottrell loaned £80K to Tice

    We approached Fiona Cottrell about the above before our piece - she wouldn't comment

    https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/2074548460007665725

    Interesting that its the Telegraph as it went very Reformy-graph over the past year or so. Remember they initially ran defence for Farage over the original £5m gift story.
    The Death of Farage's Career will sell more papers...
  • eekeek Posts: 34,401

    On and on it goes. More and more grifting...


    Gabriel Pogrund
    @Gabriel_Pogrund
    ·
    31m
    BREAKING🚨

    The Telegraph reports George Cottrell's mother made a ***£1m*** payment to Richard Tice's company, half of which was donated to Reform

    And that George Cottrell loaned £80K to Tice

    We approached Fiona Cottrell about the above before our piece - she wouldn't comment

    https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/2074548460007665725

    Interesting that its the Telegraph as it went very Reformy-graph over the past year or so. Remember they initially ran defence for Farage over the original £5m gift story.
    Yep - as with GBeebies earlier this week - the money doesn't see Farage having a long term future...
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,324
    Andy_JS said:

    The fact that Farage has to spend a lot of money on security isn't his fault. It's the fault of the people who threaten him.

    And that has something to do with the question of whether or not parliamentary rules require the registration of substantial cash gifts to apparently fund it because...?

    Either he has to declare these things or he doesn't. In either case a by-election victory doesn't indicate whether he should have declared it or not, and doesn't impact whether people might think it is a bad idea to accept massive sums of money from people whether or not it is a requirement to disclose it.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,324

    Let me get this right - Reform's members are going to stump up for the cost of Nigel's by-election?

    Just think, they could have bought a half-decent campervan instead.

    They have big money donors, they'll be fine.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 10,815
    Someone should form the Centrist Dads R Us Party and stand against Fararge. That would be an interesting way of taking the nation's pulse.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,718
    edited 6:18PM
    Did everyone see today's YouGov that had Labour in third place? Gold standard.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,166
    edited 6:18PM
    In other news, i am getting spammed like crazy about tickets being available for something called The Hundred starting soon. Never heard of it personally.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,290
    edited 6:19PM
    I think Nigel's lost the plot and is imploding...

    He won't lead REF at Election '27/28/29!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,324

    Someone should form the Centrist Dads R Us Party and stand against Fararge. That would be an interesting way of taking the nation's pulse.

    Centrist dads are at most around 10% of the population, they are just over-represented amongst respectable podcast hosts.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,179

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    PMSL. 🤣

    Turning up at a pub every now and then is more punishing than being Prime Minister?

    Or any other Minister?
    The infantile level of debate here concerning Reform issues is quite extraordinary.
    Indeed, you believing being a leader of a tertiary party is the most punishing schedule in politics, more punishing than being Prime Minister, is incredibly infantile and extraordinary.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,166

    Someone should form the Centrist Dads R Us Party and stand against Fararge. That would be an interesting way of taking the nation's pulse.

    I could be convinced, but I would requre £5 million gift to fund security...
  • TazTaz Posts: 29,219

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    PMSL. 🤣

    Turning up at a pub every now and then is more punishing than being Prime Minister?

    Or any other Minister?
    The infantile level of debate here concerning Reform issues is quite extraordinary.
    Is it ?

    I find it utterly predictable and, in a few cases, responses to Farage and Reform are Pavlovian,
  • TazTaz Posts: 29,219
    kle4 said:

    Someone should form the Centrist Dads R Us Party and stand against Fararge. That would be an interesting way of taking the nation's pulse.

    Centrist dads are at most around 10% of the population, they are just over-represented amongst respectable podcast hosts.
    And PB regulars.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,166
    edited 6:28PM
    Prince Harry has attacked the judge who dismissed his £50m privacy case against the publisher of the Daily Mail and accused him of a “whitewash”.

    I havent followed the case very closely, but after Operatiom Motorman, it was well reported that Dacre told his journalist we arent doing any of this dodgy stuff even if they miss out of stories (and surprising to some they were never in the league of the Champions League level Mirror). The NOTW saw this as a great opportunity to get all the scoops via dark arts and the Mail went down the route of working with celebs to promote via fake papped type photoshoots for what became the sidebar of shame.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,897
    Hmmm.

    I wonder if Farage could reverse ferret and blame the other parties now that it may be Count Binface vs a novelty candidate?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,324

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    PMSL. 🤣

    Turning up at a pub every now and then is more punishing than being Prime Minister?

    Or any other Minister?
    The infantile level of debate here concerning Reform issues is quite extraordinary.
    There's an amount of flippancy to be sure, but extraordinary claims do require backing up, so it would be interesting to know what it is about Farage's schedule that is indeed so punishing.

    I have no idea what his schedule is, so leaving aside any quips around surgeries or time he spends in Clacton (the people there truly probably do not care), what information is there about his schedule that is so extraordinary compared to his contemporary party leaders?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,324

    Prince Harry has attacked the judge who dismissed his £50m privacy case against the publisher of the Daily Mail and accused him of a “whitewash”.

    Translation - he had a poor case?

    Attacking the judge though, very Trumpian, he's picking up some things from the USA.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,290
    Andy_JS said:

    Did everyone see today's YouGov that had Labour in third place? Gold standard.

    To me it looks like Lab and Con have basically ticked up and are neck and neck with Ref still narrowly in the lead but significantly down on their lead last year...

    Slowly, slowly, slowly the "duopoly" is beginning to RESTORE itself....
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,044
    Clacton-on-Sea won’t topple Farage but it seems unlikely to do him any good.

    https://x.com/Peston/status/2074551203451564148
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 2,064
    edited 6:31PM

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    PMSL. 🤣

    Turning up at a pub every now and then is more punishing than being Prime Minister?

    Or any other Minister?
    The infantile level of debate here concerning Reform issues is quite extraordinary.
    I'm just not sure that is in any way true Lucky. Look at this exchange, for example:
    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    Really.

    He never visits his constituency. I know this because lots of people who don’t live there and don’t know the area keep saying this is the case.
    Do you live there?
    I don’t offer a view whether or not he visits the constituency.

    I just find it comical plenty of others who don’t seem to know his every move 😂😂😂😂
    Despite his £5 million for security he is yet to hold a constituency surgery.
    The only ones actually providing any facts are Reform's opponents.

    In my view what is actually happening is that Farage is offering one of the most extreme forms of political hypocrisy: on the one hand he claims to be offering a real voice and proper democracy; on the other hand he structures Reform like a personal fiefdom and stinks of corruption.

    I'd say the level of respect for debate about Reform on PB is just about right. My one caveat is that they are rather popular and therefore we ought to take them seriously. But then so is the World Cup, and rightly people give Infantino about the same level of respect as they do Farage.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 13,583
    I don’t think Farage gamed calling a by-election and no one came. I don’t think he’s thinking straight.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 5,620
    kle4 said:

    Isn't this a question that should have been settled a long time ago? People are unlikely to say fewer people should receive the care, its providing it and paying for it that are at issue, and that question hasn't changed in 10 years (apart from getting worse).

    The public will be asked who should receive social care and how it should be paid for as part of a review into the system.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg49lq1jw6o

    "People that I know & like should get it, and it should be paid for by people I don't know or don't like."
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,151
    Lol - is (sleazy) facism dying a death in the UK? What a fucking circus. Farage is a Cnut - pure and simple.
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,151
    Lol - is (sleazy) facism dying a death in the UK? What a fucking circus. Farage is a Cnut - pure and simple.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 51,366
    edited 6:33PM

    It's going to Messi vs Bellingham isn't it for a game of the ages?

    Maybe maybe not. Several teams can win this, inc us. If things break for us - ie the underestimated randomness factor rewards rather than punishes - we'll do it.

    Best WC ever imo. Trump and Infantino have tried their best to shit all over it but they have failed. The football has prevailed.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,290
    edited 6:37PM

    Prince Harry has attacked the judge who dismissed his £50m privacy case against the publisher of the Daily Mail and accused him of a “whitewash”.

    Harry is someone else who has lost the plot.

    Unlike Farage, I do feel sorry for him though, as I think he's completely screwed up by his odd family and losing his lovely mum at such a young age...

    Hopefully he'll be OK... But probably he won't be..
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,324

    Clacton-on-Sea won’t topple Farage but it seems unlikely to do him any good.

    https://x.com/Peston/status/2074551203451564148

    It just seems peculiar. It doesn't clear his name among those who dislike him, and those who like him already don't think there's anything to it - and if more info comes out later which might shake even them, his having been re-elected now won't change their reaction.

    If the process comes out that he didn't break any rules then sure that would be ideal for him, and blunt some attacks but not all (he's still in the pocket of very rich people), but then makes a protest by-election a weird unnecessary disturbance to the whole business. And if it does say he did wrong, screaming about the public backing before that was revealed doesn't change anything.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 13,583
    maxh said:


    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    PMSL. 🤣

    Turning up at a pub every now and then is more punishing than being Prime Minister?

    Or any other Minister?
    The infantile level of debate here concerning Reform issues is quite extraordinary.
    I'm just not sure that is in any way true Lucky. Look at this exchange, for example:
    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    Really.

    He never visits his constituency. I know this because lots of people who don’t live there and don’t know the area keep saying this is the case.
    Do you live there?
    I don’t offer a view whether or not he visits the constituency.

    I just find it comical plenty of others who don’t seem to know his every move 😂😂😂😂
    Despite his £5 million for security he is yet to hold a constituency surgery.
    The only ones actually providing any facts are Reform's opponents.

    In my view what is actually happening is that Farage is offering one of the most extreme forms of political hypocrisy: on the one hand he claims to be offering a real voice and proper democracy; on the other hand he structures Reform like a personal fiefdom and stinks of corruption.

    I'd say the level of respect for debate about Reform on PB is just about right. My one caveat is that they are rather popular and therefore we ought to take them seriously. But then so is the World Cup, and rightly people give Infantino about the same level of respect as they do Farage.
    Plenty of Farage fans on here. Plenty. More Farage fans than SKS fans to be sure
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,606
    The Greens fall for the Farage stunt.

    Farage is a "grifter" and the Greens will fight him in Clacton, says the deputy leader of the Greens Mothin Ali.

    He also adds that Farage is talking about people versus the establishment but "he is the very epitome of the establishment."

    https://x.com/TimesRadio/status/2074511438903660848
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 2,064
    Nigelb said:

    The Greens fall for the Farage stunt.

    Farage is a "grifter" and the Greens will fight him in Clacton, says the deputy leader of the Greens Mothin Ali.

    He also adds that Farage is talking about people versus the establishment but "he is the very epitome of the establishment."

    https://x.com/TimesRadio/status/2074511438903660848

    That's...foolish
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,324
    Nigelb said:

    The Greens fall for the Farage stunt.

    Farage is a "grifter" and the Greens will fight him in Clacton, says the deputy leader of the Greens Mothin Ali.

    He also adds that Farage is talking about people versus the establishment but "he is the very epitome of the establishment."

    https://x.com/TimesRadio/status/2074511438903660848

    They are also 'anti-establishment', have gone a bit quiet in the news (I haven't seen the boob whisperer being breathlessly clipped as much lately), so share common cause with Reform in wanting a by-election fighting involving none of the 'traditional' parties.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,542
    edited 6:41PM
    This was one of the stories I was expecting, forget the Parliamentary angle, the court of public opinion cannot stop this.

    Revealed: Farage’s £5m gift reported to UK crime agency over money laundering concerns

    Exclusive: Latest Guardian revelation about gift from cryptocurrency tycoon comes as Reform UK leader forces byelection


    The £5m gift to Nigel Farage by a cryptocurrency billionaire was reported to the National Crime Agency by bankers who were concerned it may have been laundered money, the Guardian can reveal.

    The disclosure will put further pressure on the Reform UK leader, who is awaiting a decision by the standards commissioner over whether his failure to declare the money breached parliamentary rules.

    Farage was given a deadline of 1pm on Tuesday to respond to the Guardian about this article. He gave a video address at 2pm announcing he would force a byelection in his seat of Clacton-on-Sea.

    That attempt to shake off the deepening scandal over his finances appeared to have backfired on Tuesday night as the Conservatives, Labour, Restore Britain and the Lib Dems all announced that they would not stand candidates in a contest described as a “media circus” and “vanity project”.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/07/revealed-farages-5m-gift-reported-to-uk-agency-over-money-laundering-concerns
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,372
    kinabalu said:

    It's going to Messi vs Bellingham isn't it for a game of the ages?

    Maybe maybe not. Several teams can win this, inc us. If things break for us - ie the underestimated randomness factor rewards rather than punishes - we'll do it.

    Best WC ever imo. Trump and Infantino have tried their best to shit all over it but they have failed. The football has prevailed.
    Lots of late goals. The "hydration" breaks are completely changing the momentum of games.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,166

    This was one of the stories I was expecting, forget the Parliamentary angle, the court of public opinion cannot stop this.

    Revealed: Farage’s £5m gift reported to UK crime agency over money laundering concerns

    Exclusive: Latest Guardian revelation about gift from cryptocurrency tycoon comes as Reform UK leader forces byelection


    The £5m gift to Nigel Farage by a cryptocurrency billionaire was reported to the National Crime Agency by bankers who were concerned it may have been laundered money, the Guardian can reveal.

    The disclosure will put further pressure on the Reform UK leader, who is awaiting a decision by the standards commissioner over whether his failure to declare the money breached parliamentary rules.

    Farage was given a deadline of 1pm on Tuesday to respond to the Guardian about this article. He gave a video address at 2pm announcing he would force a byelection in his seat of Clacton-on-Sea.

    That attempt to shake off the deepening scandal over his finances appeared to have backfired on Tuesday night as the Conservatives, Labour, Restore Britain and the Lib Dems all announced that they would not stand candidates in a contest described as a “media circus” and “vanity project”.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/07/revealed-farages-5m-gift-reported-to-uk-agency-over-money-laundering-concerns

    Now about that time he was debanked....
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 2,064
    DougSeal said:

    maxh said:


    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    PMSL. 🤣

    Turning up at a pub every now and then is more punishing than being Prime Minister?

    Or any other Minister?
    The infantile level of debate here concerning Reform issues is quite extraordinary.
    I'm just not sure that is in any way true Lucky. Look at this exchange, for example:
    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    Really.

    He never visits his constituency. I know this because lots of people who don’t live there and don’t know the area keep saying this is the case.
    Do you live there?
    I don’t offer a view whether or not he visits the constituency.

    I just find it comical plenty of others who don’t seem to know his every move 😂😂😂😂
    Despite his £5 million for security he is yet to hold a constituency surgery.
    The only ones actually providing any facts are Reform's opponents.

    In my view what is actually happening is that Farage is offering one of the most extreme forms of political hypocrisy: on the one hand he claims to be offering a real voice and proper democracy; on the other hand he structures Reform like a personal fiefdom and stinks of corruption.

    I'd say the level of respect for debate about Reform on PB is just about right. My one caveat is that they are rather popular and therefore we ought to take them seriously. But then so is the World Cup, and rightly people give Infantino about the same level of respect as they do Farage.
    Plenty of Farage fans on here. Plenty. More Farage fans than SKS fans to be sure
    Are there? Take Taz, for example (I hope you don't mind, Taz). He'll often defend Farage and Reform in ways that add value to debate, but I'm pretty certain he's not a Reform voter. Perhaps I'm wrong. I think there are plenty on here who will seek to give Reform a hearing, but not many actual fans of Farage. Happy to be proved wrong...
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,542
    edited 6:43PM

    This was one of the stories I was expecting, forget the Parliamentary angle, the court of public opinion cannot stop this.

    Revealed: Farage’s £5m gift reported to UK crime agency over money laundering concerns

    Exclusive: Latest Guardian revelation about gift from cryptocurrency tycoon comes as Reform UK leader forces byelection


    The £5m gift to Nigel Farage by a cryptocurrency billionaire was reported to the National Crime Agency by bankers who were concerned it may have been laundered money, the Guardian can reveal.

    The disclosure will put further pressure on the Reform UK leader, who is awaiting a decision by the standards commissioner over whether his failure to declare the money breached parliamentary rules.

    Farage was given a deadline of 1pm on Tuesday to respond to the Guardian about this article. He gave a video address at 2pm announcing he would force a byelection in his seat of Clacton-on-Sea.

    That attempt to shake off the deepening scandal over his finances appeared to have backfired on Tuesday night as the Conservatives, Labour, Restore Britain and the Lib Dems all announced that they would not stand candidates in a contest described as a “media circus” and “vanity project”.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/07/revealed-farages-5m-gift-reported-to-uk-agency-over-money-laundering-concerns

    Now about that time he was debanked....
    Harborne’s involvement with cryptocurrencies also makes him higher risk in banking terms, as it is harder to track the wealth of individuals who transfer sums in and out of cryptocurrencies.

    In this case, the Guardian understands bankers raised a suspicious activity report (SAR) over the gift on 16 May 2024 with the NCA. An SAR is not proof of wrongdoing – rather it is an invitation for the agency to examine the transaction to decide whether there are grounds to investigate it further. It is not the same as a crime report.

    By mid-May, Farage had not received the full £5m, according to sources, and transfers were still not completed by 22 May, when he publicly ruled himself out of standing for parliament.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 13,583
    maxh said:

    DougSeal said:

    maxh said:


    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    PMSL. 🤣

    Turning up at a pub every now and then is more punishing than being Prime Minister?

    Or any other Minister?
    The infantile level of debate here concerning Reform issues is quite extraordinary.
    I'm just not sure that is in any way true Lucky. Look at this exchange, for example:
    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    Really.

    He never visits his constituency. I know this because lots of people who don’t live there and don’t know the area keep saying this is the case.
    Do you live there?
    I don’t offer a view whether or not he visits the constituency.

    I just find it comical plenty of others who don’t seem to know his every move 😂😂😂😂
    Despite his £5 million for security he is yet to hold a constituency surgery.
    The only ones actually providing any facts are Reform's opponents.

    In my view what is actually happening is that Farage is offering one of the most extreme forms of political hypocrisy: on the one hand he claims to be offering a real voice and proper democracy; on the other hand he structures Reform like a personal fiefdom and stinks of corruption.

    I'd say the level of respect for debate about Reform on PB is just about right. My one caveat is that they are rather popular and therefore we ought to take them seriously. But then so is the World Cup, and rightly people give Infantino about the same level of respect as they do Farage.
    Plenty of Farage fans on here. Plenty. More Farage fans than SKS fans to be sure
    Are there? Take Taz, for example (I hope you don't mind, Taz). He'll often defend Farage and Reform in ways that add value to debate, but I'm pretty certain he's not a Reform voter. Perhaps I'm wrong. I think there are plenty on here who will seek to give Reform a hearing, but not many actual fans of Farage. Happy to be proved wrong...
    Lucky, Andy, the lamented Leon…
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,179
    DougSeal said:

    maxh said:

    DougSeal said:

    maxh said:


    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    PMSL. 🤣

    Turning up at a pub every now and then is more punishing than being Prime Minister?

    Or any other Minister?
    The infantile level of debate here concerning Reform issues is quite extraordinary.
    I'm just not sure that is in any way true Lucky. Look at this exchange, for example:
    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    Really.

    He never visits his constituency. I know this because lots of people who don’t live there and don’t know the area keep saying this is the case.
    Do you live there?
    I don’t offer a view whether or not he visits the constituency.

    I just find it comical plenty of others who don’t seem to know his every move 😂😂😂😂
    Despite his £5 million for security he is yet to hold a constituency surgery.
    The only ones actually providing any facts are Reform's opponents.

    In my view what is actually happening is that Farage is offering one of the most extreme forms of political hypocrisy: on the one hand he claims to be offering a real voice and proper democracy; on the other hand he structures Reform like a personal fiefdom and stinks of corruption.

    I'd say the level of respect for debate about Reform on PB is just about right. My one caveat is that they are rather popular and therefore we ought to take them seriously. But then so is the World Cup, and rightly people give Infantino about the same level of respect as they do Farage.
    Plenty of Farage fans on here. Plenty. More Farage fans than SKS fans to be sure
    Are there? Take Taz, for example (I hope you don't mind, Taz). He'll often defend Farage and Reform in ways that add value to debate, but I'm pretty certain he's not a Reform voter. Perhaps I'm wrong. I think there are plenty on here who will seek to give Reform a hearing, but not many actual fans of Farage. Happy to be proved wrong...
    Lucky, Andy, the lamented Leon…
    Isam - is he still around or banned again?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,448
    Unlike Davis though who was running on a policy position of principle, Farage is clearly hoping for a big majority to head off any recall petition related to an inquiry. The problem with the other parties not standing is he will likely win an even bigger majority and accuse the other parties of running scared
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,534

    This was one of the stories I was expecting, forget the Parliamentary angle, the court of public opinion cannot stop this.

    Revealed: Farage’s £5m gift reported to UK crime agency over money laundering concerns

    Exclusive: Latest Guardian revelation about gift from cryptocurrency tycoon comes as Reform UK leader forces byelection


    The £5m gift to Nigel Farage by a cryptocurrency billionaire was reported to the National Crime Agency by bankers who were concerned it may have been laundered money, the Guardian can reveal.

    The disclosure will put further pressure on the Reform UK leader, who is awaiting a decision by the standards commissioner over whether his failure to declare the money breached parliamentary rules.

    Farage was given a deadline of 1pm on Tuesday to respond to the Guardian about this article. He gave a video address at 2pm announcing he would force a byelection in his seat of Clacton-on-Sea.

    That attempt to shake off the deepening scandal over his finances appeared to have backfired on Tuesday night as the Conservatives, Labour, Restore Britain and the Lib Dems all announced that they would not stand candidates in a contest described as a “media circus” and “vanity project”.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/07/revealed-farages-5m-gift-reported-to-uk-agency-over-money-laundering-concerns

    Would that have been an automatic or manual referral? Are we just talking about it being on a spreadsheet they send to the NCA once a week, or more than that?

    Meanwhile, Reform say the NCA leaked bank statements to the Guardian:

    https://order-order.com/2026/07/07/richard-tice-accuses-national-crime-agency-of-leaking-bank-statements-to-the-guardian/
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 29,179
    Not surprised the boob whisperer is being a tit.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,324

    This was one of the stories I was expecting, forget the Parliamentary angle, the court of public opinion cannot stop this.

    Revealed: Farage’s £5m gift reported to UK crime agency over money laundering concerns

    Exclusive: Latest Guardian revelation about gift from cryptocurrency tycoon comes as Reform UK leader forces byelection


    The £5m gift to Nigel Farage by a cryptocurrency billionaire was reported to the National Crime Agency by bankers who were concerned it may have been laundered money, the Guardian can reveal.

    The disclosure will put further pressure on the Reform UK leader, who is awaiting a decision by the standards commissioner over whether his failure to declare the money breached parliamentary rules.

    Farage was given a deadline of 1pm on Tuesday to respond to the Guardian about this article. He gave a video address at 2pm announcing he would force a byelection in his seat of Clacton-on-Sea.

    That attempt to shake off the deepening scandal over his finances appeared to have backfired on Tuesday night as the Conservatives, Labour, Restore Britain and the Lib Dems all announced that they would not stand candidates in a contest described as a “media circus” and “vanity project”.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/07/revealed-farages-5m-gift-reported-to-uk-agency-over-money-laundering-concerns

    Now about that time he was debanked....
    Harborne’s involvement with cryptocurrencies also makes him higher risk in banking terms, as it is harder to track the wealth of individuals who transfer sums in and out of cryptocurrencies.

    In this case, the Guardian understands bankers raised a suspicious activity report (SAR) over the gift on 16 May 2024 with the NCA. An SAR is not proof of wrongdoing – rather it is an invitation for the agency to examine the transaction to decide whether there are grounds to investigate it further. It is not the same as a crime report.

    By mid-May, Farage had not received the full £5m, according to sources, and transfers were still not completed by 22 May, when he publicly ruled himself out of standing for parliament.
    My vague understanding is SARs are meant to be very confidential, someone has been naughty in leaking that.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 51,366
    DougSeal said:

    maxh said:


    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    PMSL. 🤣

    Turning up at a pub every now and then is more punishing than being Prime Minister?

    Or any other Minister?
    The infantile level of debate here concerning Reform issues is quite extraordinary.
    I'm just not sure that is in any way true Lucky. Look at this exchange, for example:
    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    Really.

    He never visits his constituency. I know this because lots of people who don’t live there and don’t know the area keep saying this is the case.
    Do you live there?
    I don’t offer a view whether or not he visits the constituency.

    I just find it comical plenty of others who don’t seem to know his every move 😂😂😂😂
    Despite his £5 million for security he is yet to hold a constituency surgery.
    The only ones actually providing any facts are Reform's opponents.

    In my view what is actually happening is that Farage is offering one of the most extreme forms of political hypocrisy: on the one hand he claims to be offering a real voice and proper democracy; on the other hand he structures Reform like a personal fiefdom and stinks of corruption.

    I'd say the level of respect for debate about Reform on PB is just about right. My one caveat is that they are rather popular and therefore we ought to take them seriously. But then so is the World Cup, and rightly people give Infantino about the same level of respect as they do Farage.
    Plenty of Farage fans on here. Plenty. More Farage fans than SKS fans to be sure
    Cmon, one yearns for the glory days of all that very thoughtful and mature "Starmer is shite" commentary.

    PB Faragists seem to be as brittle as the man himself. Bit of transference maybe. It's a known phenomenon.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,290
    With Farage, it was always going to be financial rather than sexual, wasn't it? #Grifter ;)
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,505
    edited 6:47PM

    This was one of the stories I was expecting, forget the Parliamentary angle, the court of public opinion cannot stop this.

    Revealed: Farage’s £5m gift reported to UK crime agency over money laundering concerns

    Exclusive: Latest Guardian revelation about gift from cryptocurrency tycoon comes as Reform UK leader forces byelection


    The £5m gift to Nigel Farage by a cryptocurrency billionaire was reported to the National Crime Agency by bankers who were concerned it may have been laundered money, the Guardian can reveal.

    The disclosure will put further pressure on the Reform UK leader, who is awaiting a decision by the standards commissioner over whether his failure to declare the money breached parliamentary rules.

    Farage was given a deadline of 1pm on Tuesday to respond to the Guardian about this article. He gave a video address at 2pm announcing he would force a byelection in his seat of Clacton-on-Sea.

    That attempt to shake off the deepening scandal over his finances appeared to have backfired on Tuesday night as the Conservatives, Labour, Restore Britain and the Lib Dems all announced that they would not stand candidates in a contest described as a “media circus” and “vanity project”.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/07/revealed-farages-5m-gift-reported-to-uk-agency-over-money-laundering-concerns

    The issue is that it is quite likely that the Sunday Times and The Guardian have a good deal more on Farage, and it may that it is not just Parliamentary rules that have been broken, but quite a variety of laws.

    Although NF is doubtless being advised by Trumpian Americans, I suspect their grasp of the nuances is insufficient, and hence this attempt to show boat their way out of trouble. The fact that no serious party is prepared to get involved in the by election also suggests a calculation that there is more to come... including another by election, quite probably, if Farage has indeed met his legal nemesis.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,534

    This was one of the stories I was expecting, forget the Parliamentary angle, the court of public opinion cannot stop this.

    Revealed: Farage’s £5m gift reported to UK crime agency over money laundering concerns

    Exclusive: Latest Guardian revelation about gift from cryptocurrency tycoon comes as Reform UK leader forces byelection


    The £5m gift to Nigel Farage by a cryptocurrency billionaire was reported to the National Crime Agency by bankers who were concerned it may have been laundered money, the Guardian can reveal.

    The disclosure will put further pressure on the Reform UK leader, who is awaiting a decision by the standards commissioner over whether his failure to declare the money breached parliamentary rules.

    Farage was given a deadline of 1pm on Tuesday to respond to the Guardian about this article. He gave a video address at 2pm announcing he would force a byelection in his seat of Clacton-on-Sea.

    That attempt to shake off the deepening scandal over his finances appeared to have backfired on Tuesday night as the Conservatives, Labour, Restore Britain and the Lib Dems all announced that they would not stand candidates in a contest described as a “media circus” and “vanity project”.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/07/revealed-farages-5m-gift-reported-to-uk-agency-over-money-laundering-concerns

    Now about that time he was debanked....
    Harborne’s involvement with cryptocurrencies also makes him higher risk in banking terms, as it is harder to track the wealth of individuals who transfer sums in and out of cryptocurrencies.

    In this case, the Guardian understands bankers raised a suspicious activity report (SAR) over the gift on 16 May 2024 with the NCA. An SAR is not proof of wrongdoing – rather it is an invitation for the agency to examine the transaction to decide whether there are grounds to investigate it further. It is not the same as a crime report.

    By mid-May, Farage had not received the full £5m, according to sources, and transfers were still not completed by 22 May, when he publicly ruled himself out of standing for parliament.
    Deliberate structuring?
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 2,064
    DougSeal said:

    maxh said:

    DougSeal said:

    maxh said:


    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    PMSL. 🤣

    Turning up at a pub every now and then is more punishing than being Prime Minister?

    Or any other Minister?
    The infantile level of debate here concerning Reform issues is quite extraordinary.
    I'm just not sure that is in any way true Lucky. Look at this exchange, for example:
    Foxy said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Do we think Reform expected this response from the other parties? Difficult to see what Farage gains from a byelection against Binface

    I think they can't really do anything right at present.

    This move seems to be jumping the gun. He hasn't been suspended or recalled yet.

    I've heard rumblings of Farage going out of politics again to come sweeping back in again before the GE. I'm not sure how viable a strategy that is, though there's absolutely no doubt the man needs a break.
    Why does he need a break? What has he been doing?
    I think he's probably got the most punishing schedule in politics.
    Really.

    He never visits his constituency. I know this because lots of people who don’t live there and don’t know the area keep saying this is the case.
    Do you live there?
    I don’t offer a view whether or not he visits the constituency.

    I just find it comical plenty of others who don’t seem to know his every move 😂😂😂😂
    Despite his £5 million for security he is yet to hold a constituency surgery.
    The only ones actually providing any facts are Reform's opponents.

    In my view what is actually happening is that Farage is offering one of the most extreme forms of political hypocrisy: on the one hand he claims to be offering a real voice and proper democracy; on the other hand he structures Reform like a personal fiefdom and stinks of corruption.

    I'd say the level of respect for debate about Reform on PB is just about right. My one caveat is that they are rather popular and therefore we ought to take them seriously. But then so is the World Cup, and rightly people give Infantino about the same level of respect as they do Farage.
    Plenty of Farage fans on here. Plenty. More Farage fans than SKS fans to be sure
    Are there? Take Taz, for example (I hope you don't mind, Taz). He'll often defend Farage and Reform in ways that add value to debate, but I'm pretty certain he's not a Reform voter. Perhaps I'm wrong. I think there are plenty on here who will seek to give Reform a hearing, but not many actual fans of Farage. Happy to be proved wrong...
    Lucky, Andy, the lamented Leon…
    I suppose we may differ on whether 2 1/2 counts as plenty...plus I forgot about Leon.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,542
    edited 6:50PM
    carnforth said:

    This was one of the stories I was expecting, forget the Parliamentary angle, the court of public opinion cannot stop this.

    Revealed: Farage’s £5m gift reported to UK crime agency over money laundering concerns

    Exclusive: Latest Guardian revelation about gift from cryptocurrency tycoon comes as Reform UK leader forces byelection


    The £5m gift to Nigel Farage by a cryptocurrency billionaire was reported to the National Crime Agency by bankers who were concerned it may have been laundered money, the Guardian can reveal.

    The disclosure will put further pressure on the Reform UK leader, who is awaiting a decision by the standards commissioner over whether his failure to declare the money breached parliamentary rules.

    Farage was given a deadline of 1pm on Tuesday to respond to the Guardian about this article. He gave a video address at 2pm announcing he would force a byelection in his seat of Clacton-on-Sea.

    That attempt to shake off the deepening scandal over his finances appeared to have backfired on Tuesday night as the Conservatives, Labour, Restore Britain and the Lib Dems all announced that they would not stand candidates in a contest described as a “media circus” and “vanity project”.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/07/revealed-farages-5m-gift-reported-to-uk-agency-over-money-laundering-concerns

    Would that have been an automatic or manual referral? Are we just talking about it being on a spreadsheet they send to the NCA once a week, or more than that?

    Meanwhile, Reform say the NCA leaked bank statements to the Guardian:

    https://order-order.com/2026/07/07/richard-tice-accuses-national-crime-agency-of-leaking-bank-statements-to-the-guardian/
    Both, there's several criteria.

    I have mentioned occasionally my day job involves regular contact with OFSI (Office of Financial Sanctions Implementation.)

    Some notifiable events have to be done real time.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,718
    edited 6:48PM
    Isn't it awful when people criticise judges because they make rulings those people don't agree with.

    "Prince Harry attacks judge in hacking case and accuses him of ‘whitewash’"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/07/07/prince-harry-daily-mail-case-high-court-verdict-sherborne/
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,248

    Not surprised the boob whisperer is being a tit.

    Another echo of David Davis...


  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,534
    Dacre:

    “Prince Harry wrote a sad book which boasted about his killing of 25 Taliban, his drug-taking and, in cringe-making detail, how he lost his virginity. There isn’t a laundry in the cosmos big enough to wash all the dirty linen he has aired about his own family. For him, to complain about HIS privacy being invaded takes, not just the biscuit, but the whole tin. Poor Harry. I feel sorry for the way a confused and angry young man has been drawn into this case. The bitter irony is that his mother, Diana, liked the Mail. We were her paper. We took her side in her acrimonious break up with Charles. She and I would speak and meet. The Mail’s superb royal reporter was her friend and confidante. The truth is that this trumped-up action – which has cost well over £50 million and wasted a huge amount of valuable court time – should never have been brought to trial. That it did, raises profoundly disturbing questions about the conduct of elements of the legal profession. Today’s verdict is not just a victory for Associated’s magnificent journalists – several of whom have had a terrible toll imposed on their health and lives – but a free press generally. Make no mistake. This was a conspiracy, supported by Hacked Off, to destroy a paper. Financed by the orgy-loving, racist Max Mosley and involving the actor Hugh Grant, it was also a sinister bid to resuscitate Leveson Two and impose statutory regulation on the press which, even now, is rearing its ugly head in Labour’s Media Green Paper.”
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,718
    nico67 said:

    If the Greens stand a candidate then they really are pathetic.

    The Greens are populist, in case you hadn't noticed.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,638
    HYUFD said:

    Unlike Davis though who was running on a policy position of principle, Farage is clearly hoping for a big majority to head off any recall petition related to an inquiry. The problem with the other parties not standing is he will likely win an even bigger majority and accuse the other parties of running scared

    The other parties will fight the election if the Standards Commissioner's decision rules against him which will happen even if he wins this farce
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