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The senate race in Maine has just been upended – politicalbetting.com

A woman who dated Graham Platner says he sexually assaulted her.“I just want the truth out there. I just want people to have a whole scope of who he is as a person," she said of the Maine Dem, who has faced a string of scandals over past offensive online comments and…

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  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,280
    Risky candidate a little too risky?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,500
    Farage is seriously rattled.

    In my time knowing of Nigel Farage, never have I seen him quite so angry as in this moment.

    This will only continue to escalate, and the media will keep asking questions, if he fails to comply and tell the truth about this situation.

    https://x.com/DylanSmythUK/status/2074210693704741154
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,876
    Susan Collins would be a far, far better Senator than this muppet (or worse) Platner.

    But the Republicans are so far underwater I really can't see how she can win.

    Unless, of course, they ditch Platner and she flips to the Blues.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 10,212
    This accuser is a Democrat unlike the previous accuser who was a Republican office holder.
    So this is a bit more serious.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,582
    edited July 6
    I was just about to post the Platner story.
    The Democrats have screwed themselves again.

    It was always a gamble on the part of the Democratic electorate (albeit forced by the Dem establishment trying to run someone who'll be 80 next year), and it hasn't paid off.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,516
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is seriously rattled.

    In my time knowing of Nigel Farage, never have I seen him quite so angry as in this moment.

    This will only continue to escalate, and the media will keep asking questions, if he fails to comply and tell the truth about this situation.

    https://x.com/DylanSmythUK/status/2074210693704741154

    It's odd he doesn't just stonewall and say "wait for the committee to report". Maybe shutting up isn't his millieu.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,387
    The Democrats really need to pick up Maine. Can't hope to win the Senate without it.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,876
    DavidL said:

    The Democrats really need to pick up Maine. Can't hope to win the Senate without it.

    They can, but it's much more difficult.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,339
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is seriously rattled.

    In my time knowing of Nigel Farage, never have I seen him quite so angry as in this moment.

    This will only continue to escalate, and the media will keep asking questions, if he fails to comply and tell the truth about this situation.

    https://x.com/DylanSmythUK/status/2074210693704741154

    Harman was saying that the custom for MPs under investigation was not to comment. So Farage and Reform seem to be playing this very badly.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,280
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is seriously rattled.

    In my time knowing of Nigel Farage, never have I seen him quite so angry as in this moment.

    This will only continue to escalate, and the media will keep asking questions, if he fails to comply and tell the truth about this situation.

    https://x.com/DylanSmythUK/status/2074210693704741154

    His opponents can safely raise it even if no rules were broken, because it still looks dodgy, meaning the best case scenario for Reform is them angrily complaining people won't drop it and they (mostly) retain support, but even then it probably isn't 100%.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,883
    edited July 6
    DavidL said:

    The Democrats really need to pick up Maine. Can't hope to win the Senate without it.

    Another of those, what were they thinking, situations.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,582
    Assuming this is true, he is guilty of rape.
    https://x.com/ZacharyDonnini/status/2074215374313116089
  • TresTres Posts: 3,735
    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is seriously rattled.

    In my time knowing of Nigel Farage, never have I seen him quite so angry as in this moment.

    This will only continue to escalate, and the media will keep asking questions, if he fails to comply and tell the truth about this situation.

    https://x.com/DylanSmythUK/status/2074210693704741154

    His opponents can safely raise it even if no rules were broken, because it still looks dodgy, meaning the best case scenario for Reform is them angrily complaining people won't drop it and they (mostly) retain support, but even then it probably isn't 100%.
    hopefully someone starts digging around his relationship with Aaron Banks now too
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,876
    Tres said:

    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is seriously rattled.

    In my time knowing of Nigel Farage, never have I seen him quite so angry as in this moment.

    This will only continue to escalate, and the media will keep asking questions, if he fails to comply and tell the truth about this situation.

    https://x.com/DylanSmythUK/status/2074210693704741154

    His opponents can safely raise it even if no rules were broken, because it still looks dodgy, meaning the best case scenario for Reform is them angrily complaining people won't drop it and they (mostly) retain support, but even then it probably isn't 100%.
    hopefully someone starts digging around his relationship with Aaron Banks now too
    For a truly surreal moment I thought the 'he' in that sentence was Platner.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,982
    The blame in Maine falls mainly on the Graham?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,280
    solarflare said:

    The blame in Maine falls mainly on the Graham?

    I think they pronounce it to rhyme with "gram" though.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,582
    Maine Democrats would need to select a replacement nominee by 5 p.m. on Monday, July 27, 2026. Platner would first need to withdraw by 5 p.m. on Monday, July 13 for the ordinary replacement process to apply.
    https://x.com/VoteHub/status/2074216285290852403

    Do it.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 59,387
    This match is crying out for a goal. Some very pretty football from both sides but no end result.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,982
    kle4 said:

    solarflare said:

    The blame in Maine falls mainly on the Graham?

    I think they pronounce it to rhyme with "gram" though.
    Dagnammit.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,582
    There is a double standard here, obviously, since the sitting President is an adjudicated rapist, but that is no defence, and whatever it means, it's not an argument for the Democrats keeping a rapist on the ticket.

    I’m sorry but “we are taking time to reflect on the best path forward” is not an option on the table. Either it’s false and you campaign with vigor or it’s true and you get out / apologize to everyone you let down.
    https://x.com/Timodc/status/2074217461243670939
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 6,112
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is seriously rattled.

    In my time knowing of Nigel Farage, never have I seen him quite so angry as in this moment.

    This will only continue to escalate, and the media will keep asking questions, if he fails to comply and tell the truth about this situation.

    https://x.com/DylanSmythUK/status/2074210693704741154

    Twitter/X has stopped allowing non-users to view videos. Or maybe just this specific video. Hard to say.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,324
    kle4 said:

    solarflare said:

    The blame in Maine falls mainly on the Graham?

    I think they pronounce it to rhyme with "gram" though.
    Graham of Thrones.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,324
    ohnotnow said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is seriously rattled.

    In my time knowing of Nigel Farage, never have I seen him quite so angry as in this moment.

    This will only continue to escalate, and the media will keep asking questions, if he fails to comply and tell the truth about this situation.

    https://x.com/DylanSmythUK/status/2074210693704741154

    Twitter/X has stopped allowing non-users to view videos. Or maybe just this specific video. Hard to say.
    All videos.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,582
    Pattern of bad conduct plus contemporaneous confirmatory evidence —>

    He's done, and should be.
    https://x.com/gtconway3d/status/2074217312178036859
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,828
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    ohnotnow said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is seriously rattled.

    In my time knowing of Nigel Farage, never have I seen him quite so angry as in this moment.

    This will only continue to escalate, and the media will keep asking questions, if he fails to comply and tell the truth about this situation.

    https://x.com/DylanSmythUK/status/2074210693704741154

    Twitter/X has stopped allowing non-users to view videos. Or maybe just this specific video. Hard to say.
    All videos.
    Must not have fully rolled out yet as I can still see angry Farage.

    Or they’re developing on prod again and broke something before rolling back.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 6,087
    DavidL said:

    This match is crying out for a goal. Some very pretty football from both sides but no end result.

    Might help if Portugal had 11 players.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,717
    If Platner can be forced to pull out of the race, and the Democrats manage to pick a better candidate, then it could make a Democratic victory more likely. I don't know how likely it is that he would be forced to withdraw, though.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,582
    Nigelb said:

    Maine Democrats would need to select a replacement nominee by 5 p.m. on Monday, July 27, 2026. Platner would first need to withdraw by 5 p.m. on Monday, July 13 for the ordinary replacement process to apply.
    https://x.com/VoteHub/status/2074216285290852403

    Do it.

    Rules here:
    https://legislature.maine.gov/statutes/21-A/title21-Asec374-A.html#&_intcmp=fnc_politics_article_main-content_article-body_6_3
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,982
    DavidL said:

    This match is crying out for a goal. Some very pretty football from both sides but no end result.

    It has 0-0 AET and a limp penalty shoot-out written all over it.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,280
    carnforth said:

    Foxy said:

    another_richard said:

    Stuartinromford said:

    another_richard said:

    Get one, get another 15 to fund

    Migrant workers are still bringing in family members at a ratio as high as 15 for every worker despite new restrictions, according to Home Office figures.

    Just 12 health and care visas were issued to workers from Cameroon last year but a total of 180 visas were issued to family members from the same country in the year to March, in statistics branded “shocking” by the Conservatives.

    This was a ratio of 15 to one for migrants from Cameroon in the 12 month period, although the dependants do not necessarily relate to the migrant worker because family members can join main applicants who arrived in the UK in previous years.

    There were 257 health and care worker visas issued to Ghanaians in the same period, and 2,131 visas issued to family members.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/migrant-care-workers-family-members-dependants-rules-b6z776xs7

    Remember that Angela Rayner says it would be 'un-British' to place any restrictions on these people.

    At least that quote is acknowledging that the dependents don't have to have any connection to the visas issued this year.

    And that ratio is pretty much what you would expect if the number of health and care visas issued per year were to plummet. The change is from big number divided by big number to big number divided by small number. It's just maths.

    It's not as if Conservative MPs don't have direct experience of big numbers suddenly turning into small numbers.
    There's lots of data we don't know.

    How the number of new migrant care workers is changing each year.

    How many of the care worker migrants of earlier years are still working as care workers.

    What the spread of dependents per migrant worker is - an average of 5 could mean 1 with 0 and 1 with 10.

    What we can be sure of though is that the system has been abused and will continue to be abused by some migrant care workers and by some 'employers'.
    Or more simply the care workers that came in the Boriswave are now wanting to bring in the dependents that they left in the old country. It doesn't mean the system is being abused.

    One of our Ghanaian nuses still has her son in Ghana with her own mother, but clearly that is not great in the long term. She can only get to see him once or twice a year. I don't think this unusual.
    Sidenote: a few years ago we were discussing on here the idea that calling immigrants a "wave" was terribly rude. This seems to have been suspended now with the boriswave.

    (I have no problem with wave or Boriswave.)
    That was an overly precious time, even compared with now.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,280
    ohnotnow said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is seriously rattled.

    In my time knowing of Nigel Farage, never have I seen him quite so angry as in this moment.

    This will only continue to escalate, and the media will keep asking questions, if he fails to comply and tell the truth about this situation.

    https://x.com/DylanSmythUK/status/2074210693704741154

    Twitter/X has stopped allowing non-users to view videos. Or maybe just this specific video. Hard to say.
    I can view it ok.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,582
    “The woman, a 41-year-old Maine resident named Jenny Racicot, detailed the alleged incident to POLITICO in three interviews over the past two weeks. POLITICO also spoke with a man Racicot dated and confided in the years after the alleged incident, and reviewed documents, including emails between Racicot and her therapist and messages between Racicot and an acquaintance whom she warned against getting involved with Platner years before he ran for office.”
    https://x.com/gtconway3d/status/2074215956830724587

  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 18,003
    ohnotnow said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is seriously rattled.

    In my time knowing of Nigel Farage, never have I seen him quite so angry as in this moment.

    This will only continue to escalate, and the media will keep asking questions, if he fails to comply and tell the truth about this situation.

    https://x.com/DylanSmythUK/status/2074210693704741154

    Twitter/X has stopped allowing non-users to view videos. Or maybe just this specific video. Hard to say.
    Try this
    https://bsky.app/profile/adambienkov.bsky.social/post/3mpyw75pgpk2v
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,717
    Apparently the price of a litre of petrol in Sevastopol, if you are able to find any to buy, is now €4.30. Some farmers are starting to complain about delayed diesel deliveries too, so the harvest could be really bad in Russia.

    Some independent Chinese refineries have switched to buying oil from the UAE (rather than Iran or Russia). UAE recently left OPEC and are aggressively increasing output and cutting prices, and OPEC itself is also increasing production quotas. One suspects that the Gulf states have decided to fight an oil war against Russia and Iran by flooding the market with cheap oil.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,771
    DavidL said:

    This match is crying out for a goal. Some very pretty football from both sides but no end result.

    Nah. Send them both home.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 18,003
    Nigelb said:

    I was just about to post the Platner story.
    The Democrats have screwed themselves again.

    It was always a gamble on the part of the Democratic electorate (albeit forced by the Dem establishment trying to run someone who'll be 80 next year), and it hasn't paid off.

    I feel like blaming the electorate and the establishment leaves out the role of the people who actually endorsed early and made this happen, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,946
    Off topic, and from previous thread:

    Here's one of my favorite 4th of July celebrations:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWrKbcOqBCg

    Similar events take place in many American cities, large and small.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,982
    solarflare said:

    DavidL said:

    This match is crying out for a goal. Some very pretty football from both sides but no end result.

    It has 0-0 AET and a limp penalty shoot-out written all over it.
    Written in pencil, clearly.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,232
    edmundintokyo said:

    ohnotnow said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is seriously rattled.

    In my time knowing of Nigel Farage, never have I seen him quite so angry as in this moment.

    This will only continue to escalate, and the media will keep asking questions, if he fails to comply and tell the truth about this situation.

    https://x.com/DylanSmythUK/status/2074210693704741154

    Twitter/X has stopped allowing non-users to view videos. Or maybe just this specific video. Hard to say.
    Try this
    https://bsky.app/profile/adambienkov.bsky.social/post/3mpyw75pgpk2v
    Don't you think he looks... not exactly tired (as the canonical phrase puts it)... but old?

    There's always been something of the silver fox about him, but much less so in that clip.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,582
    edmundintokyo said:

    Nigelb said:

    I was just about to post the Platner story.
    The Democrats have screwed themselves again.

    It was always a gamble on the part of the Democratic electorate (albeit forced by the Dem establishment trying to run someone who'll be 80 next year), and it hasn't paid off.

    I feel like blaming the electorate and the establishment leaves out the role of the people who actually endorsed early and made this happen, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.
    Sure - but if Schumer hadn't tried to run the former governor (against her wishes), they almost certainly wouldn't be here.

    Sanders and Warren are also, in their own way, Democratic establishment, of course.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,500
    I hate you Mikel Merino.

    I wanted a penalty shootout.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,339
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I hate you Mikel Merino.

    I wanted a penalty shootout.

    Portugal finally remembered it's a knockout game
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,500
    Dopermean said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I hate you Mikel Merino.

    I wanted a penalty shootout.

    Portugal finally remembered it's a knockout game
    What a shame Cristiano Ronaldo is out.

    Bonkers to think Jude Bellingham has more non penalty goals in the knockout stages of the World Cup than Cristiano Ronaldo, and Ronaldo has been playing in World Cups since 2006.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,355
    Well that was a bit like watching paint dry.

    Ronaldo goes home.

    Spain still are yet to concede a goal this WC.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 51,352
    Seems to me that 'colourful mavericks' are often just pieces of work.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,500
    Nigel Farage set to be interviewed by standards watchdog over £5m gift

    The Reform UK leader is facing scrutiny over money from the cryptocurrency billionaire Christopher Harborne and his links with George Cottrell

    Nigel Farage is expected to be interviewed by parliament’s standards watchdog within the next fortnight over a £5 million gift he received from a cryptocurrency billionaire.

    The Reform UK leader is facing mounting scrutiny over his financial affairs over the gift from Christopher Harborne and benefits he received from George Cottrell, a convicted criminal and crypto-gambler.

    Daniel Greenberg, the parliamentary commissioner for standards, is already investigating Farage over whether he should have declared the £5 million gift from Harborne, which he received shortly before he became an MP. Farage has also been referred to the commissioner over the benefits he received from Cottrell.

    Parliamentary rules require new MPs to register any gifts worth more than £300 that they received in the previous 12 months, except where the gift “could not be reasonably thought by others” to relate to their political activities.

    The Reform UK leader is already understood to have provided Greenberg with a copy of a contract he drew up with Harborne stating that the £5 million was a gift. He is due to be interviewed before the summer recess.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/nigel-farage-interview-standards-commissioner-k0r8v9ssb
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,500
    FA may appeal Jarell Quansah’s red card after Folarin Balogun ban saga

    England right back was sent off during 3-2 win against Mexico but Fifa may have set precedent by allowing USA striker to face Belgium despite dismissal against Bosnia

    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football/world-cup/article/jarell-quansah-red-card-appeal-england-world-cup-d2n5vmdg5

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,582
    Every Democratic pundit on my X feed, including those who previously defended him, is saying Platner must step down.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,280
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FA may appeal Jarell Quansah’s red card after Folarin Balogun ban saga

    England right back was sent off during 3-2 win against Mexico but Fifa may have set precedent by allowing USA striker to face Belgium despite dismissal against Bosnia

    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football/world-cup/article/jarell-quansah-red-card-appeal-england-world-cup-d2n5vmdg5

    If they'd even had a better bullshit excuse it might not have been so infuriating, but they barely even bothered. After all, it's not like anything is going to happen in response.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,355
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FA may appeal Jarell Quansah’s red card after Folarin Balogun ban saga

    England right back was sent off during 3-2 win against Mexico but Fifa may have set precedent by allowing USA striker to face Belgium despite dismissal against Bosnia

    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football/world-cup/article/jarell-quansah-red-card-appeal-england-world-cup-d2n5vmdg5

    Best not to do so. It was a blatent red.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,355
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Nigel Farage set to be interviewed by standards watchdog over £5m gift

    The Reform UK leader is facing scrutiny over money from the cryptocurrency billionaire Christopher Harborne and his links with George Cottrell

    Nigel Farage is expected to be interviewed by parliament’s standards watchdog within the next fortnight over a £5 million gift he received from a cryptocurrency billionaire.

    The Reform UK leader is facing mounting scrutiny over his financial affairs over the gift from Christopher Harborne and benefits he received from George Cottrell, a convicted criminal and crypto-gambler.

    Daniel Greenberg, the parliamentary commissioner for standards, is already investigating Farage over whether he should have declared the £5 million gift from Harborne, which he received shortly before he became an MP. Farage has also been referred to the commissioner over the benefits he received from Cottrell.

    Parliamentary rules require new MPs to register any gifts worth more than £300 that they received in the previous 12 months, except where the gift “could not be reasonably thought by others” to relate to their political activities.

    The Reform UK leader is already understood to have provided Greenberg with a copy of a contract he drew up with Harborne stating that the £5 million was a gift. He is due to be interviewed before the summer recess.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/nigel-farage-interview-standards-commissioner-k0r8v9ssb

    Who has a contract for a "gift"?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,280
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Nigel Farage set to be interviewed by standards watchdog over £5m gift

    The Reform UK leader is facing scrutiny over money from the cryptocurrency billionaire Christopher Harborne and his links with George Cottrell

    Nigel Farage is expected to be interviewed by parliament’s standards watchdog within the next fortnight over a £5 million gift he received from a cryptocurrency billionaire.

    The Reform UK leader is facing mounting scrutiny over his financial affairs over the gift from Christopher Harborne and benefits he received from George Cottrell, a convicted criminal and crypto-gambler.

    Daniel Greenberg, the parliamentary commissioner for standards, is already investigating Farage over whether he should have declared the £5 million gift from Harborne, which he received shortly before he became an MP. Farage has also been referred to the commissioner over the benefits he received from Cottrell.

    Parliamentary rules require new MPs to register any gifts worth more than £300 that they received in the previous 12 months, except where the gift “could not be reasonably thought by others” to relate to their political activities.

    The Reform UK leader is already understood to have provided Greenberg with a copy of a contract he drew up with Harborne stating that the £5 million was a gift. He is due to be interviewed before the summer recess.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/nigel-farage-interview-standards-commissioner-k0r8v9ssb

    'reasonably thought by others' seems like a critical phrasing here.

    It's like when I have to explain apparent vs actual bias to intelligent people and have them pretend not to understand the concept.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,582
    edited July 6
    Foxy said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    FA may appeal Jarell Quansah’s red card after Folarin Balogun ban saga

    England right back was sent off during 3-2 win against Mexico but Fifa may have set precedent by allowing USA striker to face Belgium despite dismissal against Bosnia

    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football/world-cup/article/jarell-quansah-red-card-appeal-england-world-cup-d2n5vmdg5

    Best not to do so. It was a blatant red.
    Yes, why would we try to cheat ?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,280
    Foxy said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Nigel Farage set to be interviewed by standards watchdog over £5m gift

    The Reform UK leader is facing scrutiny over money from the cryptocurrency billionaire Christopher Harborne and his links with George Cottrell

    Nigel Farage is expected to be interviewed by parliament’s standards watchdog within the next fortnight over a £5 million gift he received from a cryptocurrency billionaire.

    The Reform UK leader is facing mounting scrutiny over his financial affairs over the gift from Christopher Harborne and benefits he received from George Cottrell, a convicted criminal and crypto-gambler.

    Daniel Greenberg, the parliamentary commissioner for standards, is already investigating Farage over whether he should have declared the £5 million gift from Harborne, which he received shortly before he became an MP. Farage has also been referred to the commissioner over the benefits he received from Cottrell.

    Parliamentary rules require new MPs to register any gifts worth more than £300 that they received in the previous 12 months, except where the gift “could not be reasonably thought by others” to relate to their political activities.

    The Reform UK leader is already understood to have provided Greenberg with a copy of a contract he drew up with Harborne stating that the £5 million was a gift. He is due to be interviewed before the summer recess.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/nigel-farage-interview-standards-commissioner-k0r8v9ssb

    Who has a contract for a "gift"?
    I'm curious how the possibility of making this gift arose, and how the figure was settled upon. Did Harborne tell Farage he really wanted to give him millions of pounds, and Farage came up with a number, or did Farage talk about poor he was and if only he had £5m all would be well and Harbone happened to be nearby or something?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,500
    The USA are 36s to win the World Cup outright.

    Worth a punt given how shameless Trump/Infantino are.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,582
    I wonder what racist grandpa means by this ?

    Trump says he can tell if immigrants are bad based on how they “look”: "You could look at some of them and you could say 'this is trouble.'"
    https://x.com/HQNewsNow/status/2074170026152644963
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,500
    Foxy said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Nigel Farage set to be interviewed by standards watchdog over £5m gift

    The Reform UK leader is facing scrutiny over money from the cryptocurrency billionaire Christopher Harborne and his links with George Cottrell

    Nigel Farage is expected to be interviewed by parliament’s standards watchdog within the next fortnight over a £5 million gift he received from a cryptocurrency billionaire.

    The Reform UK leader is facing mounting scrutiny over his financial affairs over the gift from Christopher Harborne and benefits he received from George Cottrell, a convicted criminal and crypto-gambler.

    Daniel Greenberg, the parliamentary commissioner for standards, is already investigating Farage over whether he should have declared the £5 million gift from Harborne, which he received shortly before he became an MP. Farage has also been referred to the commissioner over the benefits he received from Cottrell.

    Parliamentary rules require new MPs to register any gifts worth more than £300 that they received in the previous 12 months, except where the gift “could not be reasonably thought by others” to relate to their political activities.

    The Reform UK leader is already understood to have provided Greenberg with a copy of a contract he drew up with Harborne stating that the £5 million was a gift. He is due to be interviewed before the summer recess.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/nigel-farage-interview-standards-commissioner-k0r8v9ssb

    Who has a contract for a "gift"?
    Lots of people, a deed of gift is just this.

    https://www.premiersolicitors.co.uk/blog/what-is-a-deed-of-gift
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,008
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The USA are 36s to win the World Cup outright.

    Worth a punt given how shameless Trump/Infantino are.

    I have now put a few £ on.

    There's a smell coming from this world cup and it 'aint pleasent.


  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,637
    @rodger.bsky.social‬

    troubling ........ not content to simply get Folarin Balogun back from his red card suspension, the FOX desk is talking about how the USA playing in Seattle will provide them a "12th man" in tonight's game tonight. this of course would be a massive breach of FIFA rules and regulations
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 5,616
    All very interesting, but there's nothing in the header about who's playing whom tonight!
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,008
    Why on earth does the MP gift code for any gifts upto 12 months before becoming an MP have exemptions for personal or family gifts.

    FFS.

    Everything. All of it. In the open.

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,324
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Nigel Farage set to be interviewed by standards watchdog over £5m gift

    The Reform UK leader is facing scrutiny over money from the cryptocurrency billionaire Christopher Harborne and his links with George Cottrell

    Nigel Farage is expected to be interviewed by parliament’s standards watchdog within the next fortnight over a £5 million gift he received from a cryptocurrency billionaire.

    The Reform UK leader is facing mounting scrutiny over his financial affairs over the gift from Christopher Harborne and benefits he received from George Cottrell, a convicted criminal and crypto-gambler.

    Daniel Greenberg, the parliamentary commissioner for standards, is already investigating Farage over whether he should have declared the £5 million gift from Harborne, which he received shortly before he became an MP. Farage has also been referred to the commissioner over the benefits he received from Cottrell.

    Parliamentary rules require new MPs to register any gifts worth more than £300 that they received in the previous 12 months, except where the gift “could not be reasonably thought by others” to relate to their political activities.

    The Reform UK leader is already understood to have provided Greenberg with a copy of a contract he drew up with Harborne stating that the £5 million was a gift. He is due to be interviewed before the summer recess.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/nigel-farage-interview-standards-commissioner-k0r8v9ssb

    Did he pay any tax on it?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,280
    Nigelb said:

    I wonder what racist grandpa means by this ?

    Trump says he can tell if immigrants are bad based on how they “look”: "You could look at some of them and you could say 'this is trouble.'"
    https://x.com/HQNewsNow/status/2074170026152644963

    Maybe he can transfer to the Border Patrol instead of the Oval Office then.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,324
    edited July 6
    AnneJGP said:

    All very interesting, but there's nothing in the header about who's playing whom tonight!

    Spain just beat Portugal 1-0.

    And at 1am America play Belgium (red card saga!)
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,717
    Foxy said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Nigel Farage set to be interviewed by standards watchdog over £5m gift

    The Reform UK leader is facing scrutiny over money from the cryptocurrency billionaire Christopher Harborne and his links with George Cottrell

    Nigel Farage is expected to be interviewed by parliament’s standards watchdog within the next fortnight over a £5 million gift he received from a cryptocurrency billionaire.

    The Reform UK leader is facing mounting scrutiny over his financial affairs over the gift from Christopher Harborne and benefits he received from George Cottrell, a convicted criminal and crypto-gambler.

    Daniel Greenberg, the parliamentary commissioner for standards, is already investigating Farage over whether he should have declared the £5 million gift from Harborne, which he received shortly before he became an MP. Farage has also been referred to the commissioner over the benefits he received from Cottrell.

    Parliamentary rules require new MPs to register any gifts worth more than £300 that they received in the previous 12 months, except where the gift “could not be reasonably thought by others” to relate to their political activities.

    The Reform UK leader is already understood to have provided Greenberg with a copy of a contract he drew up with Harborne stating that the £5 million was a gift. He is due to be interviewed before the summer recess.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/nigel-farage-interview-standards-commissioner-k0r8v9ssb

    Who has a contract for a "gift"?
    When my Dad gave me some money to help me buy a house, he wrote a letter along with the money setting out that it was a gift, so that I could prove where the money came from. I would think something like that was even more routine these days when there's so much more anti money laundering hoops to jump through.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,771
    Nigelb said:

    I wonder what racist grandpa means by this ?

    Trump says he can tell if immigrants are bad based on how they “look”: "You could look at some of them and you could say 'this is trouble.'"
    https://x.com/HQNewsNow/status/2074170026152644963

    Give these wrong 'uns a red card.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,324
    Scott_xP said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    AnneJGP said:

    All very interesting, but there's nothing in the header about who's playing whom tonight!

    Spain just beat Portugal 1-0.

    And at 1am America play Belgium (red card saga!)
    ...
    No New Zealand?

    Greenland greyed out?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,280
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    AnneJGP said:

    All very interesting, but there's nothing in the header about who's playing whom tonight!

    Spain just beat Portugal 1-0.

    And at 1am America play Belgium (red card saga!)
    ...
    No New Zealand?

    I think they may have just been a rumour put out by the Aussies.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 40,686
    He will intervene before kick-off, before half-time, and before the final whistle. (As Michael Heseltine didn't say).
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,446
    These Platner allegations could cost the Democrats this seat but given Collins voted to impeach Trump in 2021 and is an uber Rino it isn't necessarily a great result for Trump either. Indeed Platner looks far more MAGA than Collins
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,737
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Nigel Farage set to be interviewed by standards watchdog over £5m gift

    The Reform UK leader is facing scrutiny over money from the cryptocurrency billionaire Christopher Harborne and his links with George Cottrell

    Nigel Farage is expected to be interviewed by parliament’s standards watchdog within the next fortnight over a £5 million gift he received from a cryptocurrency billionaire.

    The Reform UK leader is facing mounting scrutiny over his financial affairs over the gift from Christopher Harborne and benefits he received from George Cottrell, a convicted criminal and crypto-gambler.

    Daniel Greenberg, the parliamentary commissioner for standards, is already investigating Farage over whether he should have declared the £5 million gift from Harborne, which he received shortly before he became an MP. Farage has also been referred to the commissioner over the benefits he received from Cottrell.

    Parliamentary rules require new MPs to register any gifts worth more than £300 that they received in the previous 12 months, except where the gift “could not be reasonably thought by others” to relate to their political activities.

    The Reform UK leader is already understood to have provided Greenberg with a copy of a contract he drew up with Harborne stating that the £5 million was a gift. He is due to be interviewed before the summer recess.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/nigel-farage-interview-standards-commissioner-k0r8v9ssb

    Did he pay any tax on it?
    Not taxable
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,008
    HYUFD said:

    These Platner allegations could cost the Democrats this seat but given Collins voted to impeach Trump in 2021 and is an uber Rino it isn't necessarily a great result for Trump either. Indeed Platner looks far more MAGA than Collins

    I'm sure she'll continue to have "concerns" after the mid-terms as Trump takes America down.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,582
    Nigelb said:

    “The woman, a 41-year-old Maine resident named Jenny Racicot, detailed the alleged incident to POLITICO in three interviews over the past two weeks. POLITICO also spoke with a man Racicot dated and confided in the years after the alleged incident, and reviewed documents, including emails between Racicot and her therapist and messages between Racicot and an acquaintance whom she warned against getting involved with Platner years before he ran for office.”
    https://x.com/gtconway3d/status/2074215956830724587

    The other point, of course, is that this allegation is on the face of it every bit as credible as that against Kavanaugh, when Collins voted to approve his nomination to the Supreme Court.

    It would be the height of hypocrisy for the Democrats to brush it aside.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,232
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    AnneJGP said:

    All very interesting, but there's nothing in the header about who's playing whom tonight!

    Spain just beat Portugal 1-0.

    And at 1am America play Belgium (red card saga!)
    ...
    No New Zealand?

    Greenland greyed out?
    Not the first time;
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-47171599

    But tonight, surely we are all that man in the bowler hat with the apple floating in front of his face.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,516
    Nigelb said:

    I wonder what racist grandpa means by this ?

    Trump says he can tell if immigrants are bad based on how they “look”: "You could look at some of them and you could say 'this is trouble.'"
    https://x.com/HQNewsNow/status/2074170026152644963

    Per Family Guy:


  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,737
    rottenborough said:

    Why on earth does the MP gift code for any gifts upto 12 months before becoming an MP have exemptions for personal or family gifts.

    FFS.

    Everything. All of it. In the open.

    It sets an ultra low bar nonetheless. The status of the 5 million is, I think, obvious. Perhaps this is why Farage is acting rattled.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,446
    edited July 6
    rottenborough said:

    HYUFD said:

    These Platner allegations could cost the Democrats this seat but given Collins voted to impeach Trump in 2021 and is an uber Rino it isn't necessarily a great result for Trump either. Indeed Platner looks far more MAGA than Collins

    I'm sure she'll continue to have "concerns" after the mid-terms as Trump takes America down.
    If the Democrats take the House Trump won't be able to get much legislation or much of a budget through anyway whatever happens in the Senate. If Collins had the swing vote in the Senate though she would play a decisive role in presidential appointments etc. Collins would be a far better Senator than Platner
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,500
    Breaking: FIFA has also fined Balogun $40,000 over his World Cup red card - half payable by U.S. Soccer Federation

    https://x.com/robharris/status/2074248536758120765?s=46
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,500
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Breaking: FIFA has also fined Balogun $40,000 over his World Cup red card - half payable by U.S. Soccer Federation

    https://x.com/robharris/status/2074248536758120765?s=46

    This is getting more bizarre every hour 🤯😂

    What’s the fine for if it wasn’t a red card @FIFAcom 👀

    I totally get most people will want Belguim to get through now, but part of me wants Balogun to get the winner for @USMNT so this blows up even bigger for Infantino!

    https://x.com/carra23/status/2074246584062124264?s=46
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,008
    edited July 6
    Calgie
    @christiancalgie

    A total of 6 million pints were sold last night, up 1.25 million thanks to pubs staying open for the England Mexico match

    - British Beer and Pub Association



    ====

    Can this be right? Sounds like a disaster. How many pints are sold on a quiet average July Monday evening? 5 million? Really? Most pubs are a desert on a Monday evening apart from the usual three at the bar.

    And a massive once in a generation sporting event with a licence to sell beer until 5am only gives ≈ another million?

    Hmmmm....



  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,737
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Foxy said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Nigel Farage set to be interviewed by standards watchdog over £5m gift

    The Reform UK leader is facing scrutiny over money from the cryptocurrency billionaire Christopher Harborne and his links with George Cottrell

    Nigel Farage is expected to be interviewed by parliament’s standards watchdog within the next fortnight over a £5 million gift he received from a cryptocurrency billionaire.

    The Reform UK leader is facing mounting scrutiny over his financial affairs over the gift from Christopher Harborne and benefits he received from George Cottrell, a convicted criminal and crypto-gambler.

    Daniel Greenberg, the parliamentary commissioner for standards, is already investigating Farage over whether he should have declared the £5 million gift from Harborne, which he received shortly before he became an MP. Farage has also been referred to the commissioner over the benefits he received from Cottrell.

    Parliamentary rules require new MPs to register any gifts worth more than £300 that they received in the previous 12 months, except where the gift “could not be reasonably thought by others” to relate to their political activities.

    The Reform UK leader is already understood to have provided Greenberg with a copy of a contract he drew up with Harborne stating that the £5 million was a gift. He is due to be interviewed before the summer recess.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/nigel-farage-interview-standards-commissioner-k0r8v9ssb

    Who has a contract for a "gift"?
    Lots of people, a deed of gift is just this.

    https://www.premiersolicitors.co.uk/blog/what-is-a-deed-of-gift
    A deed is not a contract. They exist to give legal force to non contracts.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 6,087
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    AnneJGP said:

    All very interesting, but there's nothing in the header about who's playing whom tonight!

    Spain just beat Portugal 1-0.

    And at 1am America play Belgium (red card saga!)
    ...
    No New Zealand?

    Greenland greyed out?
    Missing out New Zealand is a meme...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omission_of_New_Zealand_from_maps
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,946
    edited July 6
    "troubling ........ not content to simply get Folarin Balogun back from his red card suspension, the FOX desk is talking about how the USA playing in Seattle will provide them a "12th man" in tonight's game tonight. this of course would be a massive breach of FIFA rules and regulations"

    In the Seattle area, fans often describe themselves as the "twelfth man" at Seattle Seahawks games. That isn't just the usual home advantage; the Seattle fans are noisy when the quarterback of the opposing team is calling signals, and quiet when the Seahawks quarterback is. Probably gives the Seahawks a small extra home advantage.

    Years ago, I recall seeing an estimate that just being the home team in the NFL was about a 3 point advantage.

    (FWIW: I don't know enough about soccer to know if a similar fan tactic, or tactics, could work.)
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,712
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Breaking: FIFA has also fined Balogun $40,000 over his World Cup red card - half payable by U.S. Soccer Federation

    https://x.com/robharris/status/2074248536758120765?s=46

    This is getting more bizarre every hour 🤯😂

    What’s the fine for if it wasn’t a red card @FIFAcom 👀

    I totally get most people will want Belguim to get through now, but part of me wants Balogun to get the winner for @USMNT so this blows up even bigger for Infantino!

    https://x.com/carra23/status/2074246584062124264?s=46
    Given FIFA no longer even appear to be pretending to any sort of impartiality, the 33/1 on the USA winning the whole mess looks value to me.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 13,623
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Nigel Farage set to be interviewed by standards watchdog over £5m gift

    The Reform UK leader is facing scrutiny over money from the cryptocurrency billionaire Christopher Harborne and his links with George Cottrell

    Nigel Farage is expected to be interviewed by parliament’s standards watchdog within the next fortnight over a £5 million gift he received from a cryptocurrency billionaire.

    The Reform UK leader is facing mounting scrutiny over his financial affairs over the gift from Christopher Harborne and benefits he received from George Cottrell, a convicted criminal and crypto-gambler.

    Daniel Greenberg, the parliamentary commissioner for standards, is already investigating Farage over whether he should have declared the £5 million gift from Harborne, which he received shortly before he became an MP. Farage has also been referred to the commissioner over the benefits he received from Cottrell.

    Parliamentary rules require new MPs to register any gifts worth more than £300 that they received in the previous 12 months, except where the gift “could not be reasonably thought by others” to relate to their political activities.

    The Reform UK leader is already understood to have provided Greenberg with a copy of a contract he drew up with Harborne stating that the £5 million was a gift. He is due to be interviewed before the summer recess.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/nigel-farage-interview-standards-commissioner-k0r8v9ssb

    Hmm, I don't know if this a Times or Farage error but you can't have a 'contract' for a gift. It is a prerequisite of a contract to have consideration. And if it has consideration, well......

    Also how on earth do you convince anyone it meets the requirement 'could not be reasonably thought by others” to relate to their political activities.'
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,637
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Breaking: FIFA has also fined Balogun $40,000 over his World Cup red card - half payable by U.S. Soccer Federation

    https://x.com/robharris/status/2074248536758120765?s=46

    This is getting more bizarre every hour 🤯😂

    What’s the fine for if it wasn’t a red card @FIFAcom 👀

    I totally get most people will want Belguim to get through now, but part of me wants Balogun to get the winner for @USMNT so this blows up even bigger for Infantino!

    https://x.com/carra23/status/2074246584062124264?s=46
    Score the winner, and collect 2 yellows...
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,737
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Farage is seriously rattled.

    In my time knowing of Nigel Farage, never have I seen him quite so angry as in this moment.

    This will only continue to escalate, and the media will keep asking questions, if he fails to comply and tell the truth about this situation.

    https://x.com/DylanSmythUK/status/2074210693704741154

    Rattled because, looking at the test, he lacks any possible defence. Toast. And if by magic he gets away with it, voters still know it is true.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 6,385
    Stuartinromford said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    AnneJGP said:

    All very interesting, but there's nothing in the header about who's playing whom tonight!

    Spain just beat Portugal 1-0.

    And at 1am America play Belgium (red card saga!)
    ...
    No New Zealand?

    Greenland greyed out?
    Not the first time;
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-47171599

    But tonight, surely we are all that man in the bowler hat with the Apple floating in front of his face.
    TSE's Monday morning catch up on the news?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,582
    algarkirk said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Foxy said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Nigel Farage set to be interviewed by standards watchdog over £5m gift

    The Reform UK leader is facing scrutiny over money from the cryptocurrency billionaire Christopher Harborne and his links with George Cottrell

    Nigel Farage is expected to be interviewed by parliament’s standards watchdog within the next fortnight over a £5 million gift he received from a cryptocurrency billionaire.

    The Reform UK leader is facing mounting scrutiny over his financial affairs over the gift from Christopher Harborne and benefits he received from George Cottrell, a convicted criminal and crypto-gambler.

    Daniel Greenberg, the parliamentary commissioner for standards, is already investigating Farage over whether he should have declared the £5 million gift from Harborne, which he received shortly before he became an MP. Farage has also been referred to the commissioner over the benefits he received from Cottrell.

    Parliamentary rules require new MPs to register any gifts worth more than £300 that they received in the previous 12 months, except where the gift “could not be reasonably thought by others” to relate to their political activities.

    The Reform UK leader is already understood to have provided Greenberg with a copy of a contract he drew up with Harborne stating that the £5 million was a gift. He is due to be interviewed before the summer recess.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/nigel-farage-interview-standards-commissioner-k0r8v9ssb

    Who has a contract for a "gift"?
    Lots of people, a deed of gift is just this.

    https://www.premiersolicitors.co.uk/blog/what-is-a-deed-of-gift
    A deed is not a contract. They exist to give legal force to non contracts.
    A contract represents an exchange of value in some form, quite distinct from a gift.
    It could just be the reporter that's confused the terms, of course.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,582
    Explain this one, Trump sane washers.

    Just now, a slurring Donald Trump confused RAPPER Nicki Minaj with Kelly Loeffler, the administrator of the SBA.
    https://x.com/CalltoActivism/status/2074207830404432032
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,582
    Jim_Miller said:

    "troubling ........ not content to simply get Folarin Balogun back from his red card suspension, the FOX desk is talking about how the USA playing in Seattle will provide them a "12th man" in tonight's game tonight. this of course would be a massive breach of FIFA rules and regulations"

    In the Seattle area, fans often describe themselves as the "twelfth man" at Seattle Seahawks games. That isn't just the usual home advantage; the Seattle fans are noisy when the quarterback of the opposing team is calling signals, and quiet when the Seahawks quarterback is. Probably gives the Seahawks a small extra home advantage.

    Years ago, I recall seeing an estimate that just being the home team in the NFL was about a 3 point advantage.

    (FWIW: I don't know enough about soccer to know if a similar fan tactic, or tactics, could work.)

    Didn't do much for Mexico last night.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 8,257
    edited July 6
    Cookie said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Breaking: FIFA has also fined Balogun $40,000 over his World Cup red card - half payable by U.S. Soccer Federation

    https://x.com/robharris/status/2074248536758120765?s=46

    This is getting more bizarre every hour 🤯😂

    What’s the fine for if it wasn’t a red card @FIFAcom 👀

    I totally get most people will want Belguim to get through now, but part of me wants Balogun to get the winner for @USMNT so this blows up even bigger for Infantino!

    https://x.com/carra23/status/2074246584062124264?s=46
    Given FIFA no longer even appear to be pretending to any sort of impartiality, the 33/1 on the USA winning the whole mess looks value to me.
    Isn’t it sad that we are betting on the World’s biggest football tournament being rigged. 😢
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,280
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Breaking: FIFA has also fined Balogun $40,000 over his World Cup red card - half payable by U.S. Soccer Federation

    https://x.com/robharris/status/2074248536758120765?s=46

    This is getting more bizarre every hour 🤯😂

    What’s the fine for if it wasn’t a red card @FIFAcom 👀

    I totally get most people will want Belguim to get through now, but part of me wants Balogun to get the winner for @USMNT so this blows up even bigger for Infantino!

    https://x.com/carra23/status/2074246584062124264?s=46
    Well, they didn't say it wasn't a red card did they? That might have made sense, even if the system for overturning such (apparently) does not apply at the world cups. They just used a quirk in the rules to suspend his punishment for the red card.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,582
    rottenborough said:

    Calgie
    @christiancalgie

    A total of 6 million pints were sold last night, up 1.25 million thanks to pubs staying open for the England Mexico match

    - British Beer and Pub Association



    ====

    Can this be right? Sounds like a disaster. How many pints are sold on a quiet average July Monday evening? 5 million? Really? Most pubs are a desert on a Monday evening apart from the usual three at the bar.

    And a massive once in a generation sporting event with a licence to sell beer until 5am only gives ≈ another million?

    Hmmmm....

    Extra above what might otherwise have been last night, I think.

    An avg Monday night is much less, according to Google:
    ..On a typical Monday night in Britain, pubs collectively sell between 1.5 million and 2.5 million pints. ..<.I>
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,355
    Scott_xP said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    AnneJGP said:

    All very interesting, but there's nothing in the header about who's playing whom tonight!

    Spain just beat Portugal 1-0.

    And at 1am America play Belgium (red card saga!)
    ...
    I think we can have abit of a hunch for Greenland...
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,355
    On topic:

    Under Maine law, Graham Platner has until 5:00 p.m. ET on July 13th to withdraw from the race for U.S. Senate. That will allow Democrats to select a replacement nominee before the general election.

    After that deadline, replacing him on the ballot becomes far more difficult.

    https://bsky.app/profile/joncooper-us.bsky.social/post/3mpz42ahkb22s
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,008
    Well, it made laugh


    Maciej Łaszkiewicz
    @maciejlasz

    Translated from Polish

    The first example in history of a person who, during an afternoon walk, scored the goal that secured advancement to the quarterfinals of the World Cup

    https://x.com/maciejlasz/status/2074144193539186776
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,963
    rottenborough said:

    Calgie
    @christiancalgie

    A total of 6 million pints were sold last night, up 1.25 million thanks to pubs staying open for the England Mexico match

    - British Beer and Pub Association



    ====

    Can this be right? Sounds like a disaster. How many pints are sold on a quiet average July Monday evening? 5 million? Really? Most pubs are a desert on a Monday evening apart from the usual three at the bar.

    And a massive once in a generation sporting event with a licence to sell beer until 5am only gives ≈ another million?

    Hmmmm....



    At a guess, because most pubs did not stay open for the World Cup match, even if those that did were rammed. For a start, most pubs don't show sport at all.
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