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Who will be facing their Waterloo in today’s trilogy of by-elections? – politicalbetting.com

My prediction for today is that the betting will be brisk.

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  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,506
    First unlike Restore?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,029
    The history book on the shelf
    Is always repeating itself...
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,850
    edited 7:27AM
    FPT
    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Good luck to Andy Burnham today.

    We need somebody who can take on Reform and prevent them getting power.

    Starmer is clearly not up to that task.

    You reckon Burnham is ?

    I hope he is but I just think he’s a more charismatic version of Starmer.
    I don't think he's up to it. But Starmer has got to go.
    Starmer is herpes.

    Burnham is syphilis.

    You don't really want either, but if you have to choose...
    A mantra in my life is that there is a cure for syphilis but there's no cure for regret.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,850

    The history book on the shelf
    Is always repeating itself...

    My my.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,600
    With the GOP falling over themselves to praise the brilliance of Trump's surrender, he is planning to walk naked into the Senate (while they comment favourably on his fine raiments) and announce they are all converting to Islam. Inshallah.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,457
    edited 7:31AM
    The photo of the airborne oil tank lid is reportedly being shared widely by Russian channels. Beginning to sink in to many that there's a war on, and they aren't happy about it.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,600
    @russellengland.bsky.social‬

    "What a rotten deal we made with Iran. We get nothing (except laughter at our stupidity). They get everything, including delay and big cash!"

    Donald J. Trump, 24 Nov 2013

    https://bsky.app/profile/russellengland.bsky.social/post/3mokawviyx22t
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,030

    The history book on the shelf
    Is always repeating itself...

    My my.
    The question is not who will be meeting their Waterloo; rather, who will be Napoleon, and who Wellington ?
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,506

    FPT

    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Good luck to Andy Burnham today.

    We need somebody who can take on Reform and prevent them getting power.

    Starmer is clearly not up to that task.

    You reckon Burnham is ?

    I hope he is but I just think he’s a more charismatic version of Starmer.
    I don't think he's up to it. But Starmer has got to go.
    Starmer is herpes.

    Burnham is syphilis.

    You don't really want either, but if you have to choose...
    A mantra in my life is that there is a cure for syphilis but there's no cure for regret.
    That cheery Christian existentialist Kierkegaard points out that there is no cure for regret because the moment we make a choice we wonder for all time what would have been if we had made the other one. Robert Frost puts it best:


    Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
    And sorry I could not travel both
    And be one traveler, long I stood
    And looked down one as far as I could
    To where it bent in the undergrowth;


    https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44272/the-road-not-taken
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,371

    The photo of the airborne oil tank lid is reportedly being shared widely by Russian channels. Beginning to sink in to many that there's a war on, and they aren't happy about it.

    The what now?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,850
    Nigelb said:

    The history book on the shelf
    Is always repeating itself...

    My my.
    The question is not who will be meeting their Waterloo; rather, who will be Napoleon, and who Wellington ?
    Poor Gebhard von Blücher, forgotten once again.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,030
    Trump favourably compares the president of Syria with Netanyahu (whom he also called "very much the junior partner"0.

    “The president of #Syria. He’s done a tremendous job… He’d love to go in [to #Lebanon]… he wouldn’t knock down buildings every time he hears there’s someone there, he’d just go in with precision.”..
    https://x.com/Charles_Lister/status/2067311287126647194

    Of course this is (even for someone like me who thinks Julani/Ahmed al-Sharaa is, on balance, probably now a force for stability in Syria) objectively insane. But it shows which way Trump is leaning.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,030

    Nigelb said:

    The history book on the shelf
    Is always repeating itself...

    My my.
    The question is not who will be meeting their Waterloo; rather, who will be Napoleon, and who Wellington ?
    Poor Gebhard von Blücher, forgotten once again.
    His name just doesn't scan.
  • eekeek Posts: 34,064
    Scott_xP said:

    @russellengland.bsky.social‬

    "What a rotten deal we made with Iran. We get nothing (except laughter at our stupidity). They get everything, including delay and big cash!"

    Donald J. Trump, 24 Nov 2013

    https://bsky.app/profile/russellengland.bsky.social/post/3mokawviyx22t

    There is always a tweet as the internet never forgets
  • RattersRatters Posts: 2,041

    The photo of the airborne oil tank lid is reportedly being shared widely by Russian channels. Beginning to sink in to many that there's a war on, and they aren't happy about it.

    Bringing the war to Moscow and St Petersburg was always going to be the most effective way to create domestic pressure on Putin. It's easier to support a war where people from districts 2-9 are being shipped off to be killed. Fuel shortages and huge explosions a few miles away from the capital are a different matter.

    And the oil price fall back should create more pressure on Russia's finances.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,457

    The photo of the airborne oil tank lid is reportedly being shared widely by Russian channels. Beginning to sink in to many that there's a war on, and they aren't happy about it.

    The what now?
    https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/5576368/#Comment_5576368
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,850
    What do we think of the word 'semiquincentennial'?

    It just feels wrong and ugly to me.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,078
    It is quite possible Labour win Makerfield, the Conservatives win Aberdeen South and the SNP win Arbroath. In which case the main parties will have done reasonably well.

    While if Restore take lots of Reform votes it will be Farage as Napoleon facing his Waterloo, at least for now
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 10,152
    algarkirk said:

    FPT

    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Good luck to Andy Burnham today.

    We need somebody who can take on Reform and prevent them getting power.

    Starmer is clearly not up to that task.

    You reckon Burnham is ?

    I hope he is but I just think he’s a more charismatic version of Starmer.
    I don't think he's up to it. But Starmer has got to go.
    Starmer is herpes.

    Burnham is syphilis.

    You don't really want either, but if you have to choose...
    A mantra in my life is that there is a cure for syphilis but there's no cure for regret.
    That cheery Christian existentialist Kierkegaard points out that there is no cure for regret because the moment we make a choice we wonder for all time what would have been if we had made the other one. Robert Frost puts it best:


    Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
    And sorry I could not travel both
    And be one traveler, long I stood
    And looked down one as far as I could
    To where it bent in the undergrowth;


    https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44272/the-road-not-taken
    That's a funny one for me - I can spend ages agonising over a choice and change my mind at the last moment. But once the decision is made it's not something I revisit or feel regret over. My wife really bugs me on this sometimes: "we should have..." or "if only...", but even with hindsight, you can never really know how those other paths would have turned out.

    I'm sure I've made plenty of bad decisions. My life doesn't look like a straight path from A to B, much more like someone blundering around without a map. But I'm happy where I've ended up and changing any of those decisions would put me somewhere else (and quite possibly I'd never have met my wife - our paths only crossed briefly, possibly due to some of my bad decisions).
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,078
    It is quite possible Labour win Makerfield, the Conservatives win Aberdeen South and the SNP win Arbroath. In which case the main parties will have done reasonably well.

    While if Restore take lots of Reform votes it will be Farage as Napoleon facing his Waterloo, at least for now
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,067

    What do we think of the word 'semiquincentennial'?

    It just feels wrong and ugly to me.

    Replace it with quarter millennial?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,078
    edited 7:45AM
    Nigelb said:

    The history book on the shelf
    Is always repeating itself...

    My my.
    The question is not who will be meeting their Waterloo; rather, who will be Napoleon, and who Wellington ?
    Burnham clearly sees himself as Wellington to Farage's Napoleon and Starmer's Louis XVIIIth
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,029
    Nigelb said:

    The history book on the shelf
    Is always repeating itself...

    My my.
    The question is not who will be meeting their Waterloo; rather, who will be Napoleon, and who Wellington ?
    It's Starmer who is likely to get the boot.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,831

    What do we think of the word 'semiquincentennial'?

    It just feels wrong and ugly to me.

    It's rather sesquipedalian.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,000
    THIRTEEN HOURS TO SAVE THE LABOUR PARTY ANDY BURNHAM'S CAREER!!!
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 48,008

    What do we think of the word 'semiquincentennial'?

    It just feels wrong and ugly to me.

    Certainly doesn't get me hard.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,000

    What do we think of the word 'semiquincentennial'?

    It just feels wrong and ugly to me.

    The US only formally gained Independence in 1783, in any case. Discuss!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,850

    What do we think of the word 'semiquincentennial'?

    It just feels wrong and ugly to me.

    It's rather sesquipedalian.
    Indeed but Telegraph have used it and the Yanks are using it.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/news/trump-freedom-250-concert-collapse/?recomm_id=82487db6-4e87-407d-9fc0-52e62e310f33

    and

    U.S. Semiquincentennial Commission

    https://america250.org/about-america250/a250-leadership/
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,732
    Starmer probably, but maybe Pharsalus rather than Waterloo?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 48,008
    Nigelb said:

    Trump favourably compares the president of Syria with Netanyahu (whom he also called "very much the junior partner"0.

    “The president of #Syria. He’s done a tremendous job… He’d love to go in [to #Lebanon]… he wouldn’t knock down buildings every time he hears there’s someone there, he’d just go in with precision.”..
    https://x.com/Charles_Lister/status/2067311287126647194

    Of course this is (even for someone like me who thinks Julani/Ahmed al-Sharaa is, on balance, probably now a force for stability in Syria) objectively insane. But it shows which way Trump is leaning.

    Bib has joined the Pantheon of those who Trump feels have personally betrayed him. Quite difficult to come back from that. Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,067
    Starmer should take the initiative and sack Miliband in the morning.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,850

    Nigelb said:

    Trump favourably compares the president of Syria with Netanyahu (whom he also called "very much the junior partner"0.

    “The president of #Syria. He’s done a tremendous job… He’d love to go in [to #Lebanon]… he wouldn’t knock down buildings every time he hears there’s someone there, he’d just go in with precision.”..
    https://x.com/Charles_Lister/status/2067311287126647194

    Of course this is (even for someone like me who thinks Julani/Ahmed al-Sharaa is, on balance, probably now a force for stability in Syria) objectively insane. But it shows which way Trump is leaning.

    Bib has joined the Pantheon of those who Trump feels have personally betrayed him. Quite difficult to come back from that. Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke.
    Haven't found the Tweet but some MAGA influencers want Trump to bomb Israel if Bibi betrays Trump over the Iran deal.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,506
    edited 7:59AM
    Can PB academics/stats people resolve this puzzle?

    1) There are roughly 800,000 18 year olds living in the UK

    2) About 660,000 people start an undergraduate degree each year of which about 18% are foreign nationals, leaving about 540,000 UK nationals.

    3) 540,000 is 67% of 800,000. Far more than the about 35% who are said to go to university.

    Obvs people go at various ages, but the 25 year old going now is an 18 year old who didn't go 7 years ago, so the size of the annual cohort is a decent proxy.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,589

    Nigelb said:

    The history book on the shelf
    Is always repeating itself...

    My my.
    The question is not who will be meeting their Waterloo; rather, who will be Napoleon, and who Wellington ?
    Poor Gebhard von Blücher, forgotten once again.
    Rupert Lowe might be Blucher, if Farage is Napoleon and Burnham Wellington.
  • eekeek Posts: 34,064
    edited 8:00AM
    Given that Trump signed the Iranian peace agreement last night in Versailles - I give you this cartoon



    From https://bsky.app/profile/samd.bsky.social/post/3mojvo4kess2j
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,030

    What do we think of the word 'semiquincentennial'?

    It just feels wrong and ugly to me.

    It's rather sesquipedalian.
    Indeed but Telegraph have used it and the Yanks are using it.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/news/trump-freedom-250-concert-collapse/?recomm_id=82487db6-4e87-407d-9fc0-52e62e310f33

    and

    U.S. Semiquincentennial Commission

    https://america250.org/about-america250/a250-leadership/
    "I want the biggest word.."
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,067
    eek said:

    Given that Trump signed the Iranian peace agreement last night in Versailles - I give you this cartoon




    So based on this analogy, the US is Germany and we should be expecting their version of Hitler to rise to power in the 2030s?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,030
    This (phased array ultrasound full body scanner) is very cool, and seems to be entirely valid technically.
    Sell your shares in MRI manufacturers.

    amazing new medical tech from Midjourney

    "This is a new kind of infrastructure. It’s Full Body Ultrasonic Computational Tomography. No such device has ever been built until now, and yeah, we’re calling it the Midjourney Scanner."

    "Less than a dozen of these machines operating together at full speed can do more full body scans than every MRI machine together on Earth. Our goal is to build a fleet of 50,000 of these scanners, capable together of doing a billion scans a month—enough to bring full body imaging to everyone on Earth."

    https://x.com/Dr_Singularity/status/2067459556809064863
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 48,008

    Nigelb said:

    Trump favourably compares the president of Syria with Netanyahu (whom he also called "very much the junior partner"0.

    “The president of #Syria. He’s done a tremendous job… He’d love to go in [to #Lebanon]… he wouldn’t knock down buildings every time he hears there’s someone there, he’d just go in with precision.”..
    https://x.com/Charles_Lister/status/2067311287126647194

    Of course this is (even for someone like me who thinks Julani/Ahmed al-Sharaa is, on balance, probably now a force for stability in Syria) objectively insane. But it shows which way Trump is leaning.

    Bib has joined the Pantheon of those who Trump feels have personally betrayed him. Quite difficult to come back from that. Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke.
    Haven't found the Tweet but some MAGA influencers want Trump to bomb Israel if Bibi betrays Trump over the Iran deal.
    And their doppelgängers in Israel are raging about Trump's 'betrayal'. Time for Israel to go it alone and perhaps bust out one of their nuclear weapons (which they may or may not possess) in a relatively uninhabited area is some of what I've read.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,589
    OTT rant – scraping data from the web is far more difficult now that so many sites are retreating behind Captcha. I now need to browse to a site to get one number each day, which of course puts more load than just running curl.

    In addition, archive.org aka "the wayback machine" is endangered because so many sites actively block its crawlers.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 29,576
    Nigelb said:

    Trump favourably compares the president of Syria with Netanyahu (whom he also called "very much the junior partner"0.

    “The president of #Syria. He’s done a tremendous job… He’d love to go in [to #Lebanon]… he wouldn’t knock down buildings every time he hears there’s someone there, he’d just go in with precision.”..
    https://x.com/Charles_Lister/status/2067311287126647194

    Of course this is (even for someone like me who thinks Julani/Ahmed al-Sharaa is, on balance, probably now a force for stability in Syria) objectively insane. But it shows which way Trump is leaning.

    Trump has homoerotic yearnings for al-Sharaa.

    Likewise for Mamdani and Bukele.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,646
    Huge turnout in Makerfield.
    I can see the queues from Brighton pier.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,067

    Nigelb said:

    Trump favourably compares the president of Syria with Netanyahu (whom he also called "very much the junior partner"0.

    “The president of #Syria. He’s done a tremendous job… He’d love to go in [to #Lebanon]… he wouldn’t knock down buildings every time he hears there’s someone there, he’d just go in with precision.”..
    https://x.com/Charles_Lister/status/2067311287126647194

    Of course this is (even for someone like me who thinks Julani/Ahmed al-Sharaa is, on balance, probably now a force for stability in Syria) objectively insane. But it shows which way Trump is leaning.

    Trump has homoerotic yearnings for al-Sharaa.

    Likewise for Mamdani and Bukele.
    Suddenly the plan to make Burnham PM makes sense.
  • eekeek Posts: 34,064
    Nigelb said:

    This (phased array ultrasound full body scanner) is very cool, and seems to be entirely valid technically.
    Sell your shares in MRI manufacturers.

    amazing new medical tech from Midjourney

    "This is a new kind of infrastructure. It’s Full Body Ultrasonic Computational Tomography. No such device has ever been built until now, and yeah, we’re calling it the Midjourney Scanner."

    "Less than a dozen of these machines operating together at full speed can do more full body scans than every MRI machine together on Earth. Our goal is to build a fleet of 50,000 of these scanners, capable together of doing a billion scans a month—enough to bring full body imaging to everyone on Earth."

    https://x.com/Dr_Singularity/status/2067459556809064863

    I will wait and see an actual machine because to me this is Midjourney trying to find a purpose and accidentally creating Theranos mark 2
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,030

    Nigelb said:

    Trump favourably compares the president of Syria with Netanyahu (whom he also called "very much the junior partner"0.

    “The president of #Syria. He’s done a tremendous job… He’d love to go in [to #Lebanon]… he wouldn’t knock down buildings every time he hears there’s someone there, he’d just go in with precision.”..
    https://x.com/Charles_Lister/status/2067311287126647194

    Of course this is (even for someone like me who thinks Julani/Ahmed al-Sharaa is, on balance, probably now a force for stability in Syria) objectively insane. But it shows which way Trump is leaning.

    Trump has homoerotic yearnings for al-Sharaa.

    Likewise for Mamdani and Bukele.
    It has been suggested that increasing dementia has lowered his inhibitions.
    Might even be true.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,015

    What do we think of the word 'semiquincentennial'?

    It just feels wrong and ugly to me.

    I was in NZ for the Sesquicentennial (150 years from foundation) so shouldn't 250 years be sestercentennial?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 48,008
    The stupid fcukers put their trust in Trump! Not fit to be let out on their own.


    Kosher
    @koshercockney
    ·
    8h
    Absolutely bonkers.

    Trump: "Hamas actually behaved pretty well."

    What the hell happened to this guy?

    https://x.com/koshercockney/status/2067398551047385477?s=20
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,030
    eek said:

    Nigelb said:

    This (phased array ultrasound full body scanner) is very cool, and seems to be entirely valid technically.
    Sell your shares in MRI manufacturers.

    amazing new medical tech from Midjourney

    "This is a new kind of infrastructure. It’s Full Body Ultrasonic Computational Tomography. No such device has ever been built until now, and yeah, we’re calling it the Midjourney Scanner."

    "Less than a dozen of these machines operating together at full speed can do more full body scans than every MRI machine together on Earth. Our goal is to build a fleet of 50,000 of these scanners, capable together of doing a billion scans a month—enough to bring full body imaging to everyone on Earth."

    https://x.com/Dr_Singularity/status/2067459556809064863

    I will wait and see an actual machine because to me this is Midjourney trying to find a purpose and accidentally creating Theranos mark 2
    Allegedly there is a prototype.

    I just tested my hand in a mini version of this scanner. Images that are higher quality than MRI, whole body captured in <1 minute, virtually free to run. This is going to change medicine.</I>
    https://x.com/SebastianCaliri/status/2067452733356122303

    The tech accounts I follow on X think it fairly plausible, FWIW.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,015

    Huge turnout in Makerfield.
    I can see the queues from Brighton pier.

    Many dogs at polling stations?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,015
    Nigelb said:

    This (phased array ultrasound full body scanner) is very cool, and seems to be entirely valid technically.
    Sell your shares in MRI manufacturers.

    amazing new medical tech from Midjourney

    "This is a new kind of infrastructure. It’s Full Body Ultrasonic Computational Tomography. No such device has ever been built until now, and yeah, we’re calling it the Midjourney Scanner."

    "Less than a dozen of these machines operating together at full speed can do more full body scans than every MRI machine together on Earth. Our goal is to build a fleet of 50,000 of these scanners, capable together of doing a billion scans a month—enough to bring full body imaging to everyone on Earth."

    https://x.com/Dr_Singularity/status/2067459556809064863

    Sounds interesting, but the problem is one of interpretation, and also the vast amount of incidental findings.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 21,188
    eek said:

    Nigelb said:

    This (phased array ultrasound full body scanner) is very cool, and seems to be entirely valid technically.
    Sell your shares in MRI manufacturers.

    amazing new medical tech from Midjourney

    "This is a new kind of infrastructure. It’s Full Body Ultrasonic Computational Tomography. No such device has ever been built until now, and yeah, we’re calling it the Midjourney Scanner."

    "Less than a dozen of these machines operating together at full speed can do more full body scans than every MRI machine together on Earth. Our goal is to build a fleet of 50,000 of these scanners, capable together of doing a billion scans a month—enough to bring full body imaging to everyone on Earth."

    https://x.com/Dr_Singularity/status/2067459556809064863

    I will wait and see an actual machine because to me this is Midjourney trying to find a purpose and accidentally creating Theranos mark 2
    Theranos didn’t even have any working tech. This does appear to have working tech. Whether it’s as good as they claim, I dunno.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,589
    algarkirk said:

    Can PB academics/stats people resolve this puzzle?

    1) There are roughly 800,000 18 year olds living in the UK

    2) About 660,000 people start an undergraduate degree each year of which about 18% are foreign nationals, leaving about 540,000 UK nationals.

    3) 540,000 is 67% of 800,000. Far more than the about 35% who are said to go to university.

    Obvs people go at various ages, but the 25 year old going now is an 18 year old who didn't go 7 years ago, so the size of the annual cohort is a decent proxy.

    Not an academic but stat number (2) is the one I'd check first. Is that the number who start a degree or the number on a degree course, because the latter would include all three years of a standard first degree? Does it include Open University students?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,030
    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    This (phased array ultrasound full body scanner) is very cool, and seems to be entirely valid technically.
    Sell your shares in MRI manufacturers.

    amazing new medical tech from Midjourney

    "This is a new kind of infrastructure. It’s Full Body Ultrasonic Computational Tomography. No such device has ever been built until now, and yeah, we’re calling it the Midjourney Scanner."

    "Less than a dozen of these machines operating together at full speed can do more full body scans than every MRI machine together on Earth. Our goal is to build a fleet of 50,000 of these scanners, capable together of doing a billion scans a month—enough to bring full body imaging to everyone on Earth."

    https://x.com/Dr_Singularity/status/2067459556809064863

    Sounds interesting, but the problem is one of interpretation, and also the vast amount of incidental findings.
    Given a resource constrained system like the NHS, we'd better start planning.
    On the upside, it would end wait times for essential scans.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,554
    Nigelb said:

    Trump favourably compares the president of Syria with Netanyahu (whom he also called "very much the junior partner"0.

    “The president of #Syria. He’s done a tremendous job… He’d love to go in [to #Lebanon]… he wouldn’t knock down buildings every time he hears there’s someone there, he’d just go in with precision.”..
    https://x.com/Charles_Lister/status/2067311287126647194

    Of course this is (even for someone like me who thinks Julani/Ahmed al-Sharaa is, on balance, probably now a force for stability in Syria) objectively insane. But it shows which way Trump is leaning.

    Perhaps he’s miffed he got mugged off by Bibi and Mossad to start a war they promised would be over quickly

    I don’t know about his view on Syria but he’s right about Bibi and Israel
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 21,188
    Nigelb said:

    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    This (phased array ultrasound full body scanner) is very cool, and seems to be entirely valid technically.
    Sell your shares in MRI manufacturers.

    amazing new medical tech from Midjourney

    "This is a new kind of infrastructure. It’s Full Body Ultrasonic Computational Tomography. No such device has ever been built until now, and yeah, we’re calling it the Midjourney Scanner."

    "Less than a dozen of these machines operating together at full speed can do more full body scans than every MRI machine together on Earth. Our goal is to build a fleet of 50,000 of these scanners, capable together of doing a billion scans a month—enough to bring full body imaging to everyone on Earth."

    https://x.com/Dr_Singularity/status/2067459556809064863

    Sounds interesting, but the problem is one of interpretation, and also the vast amount of incidental findings.
    Given a resource constrained system like the NHS, we'd better start planning.
    On the upside, it would end wait times for essential scans.
    Only if the DHSC spends enough money on buying enough scanners.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,457

    What do we think of the word 'semiquincentennial'?

    It just feels wrong and ugly to me.

    The US only formally gained Independence in 1783, in any case. Discuss!
    The Treaty of Paris wasn't ratified until 1784, and became effective on May 12th of that year, when ratified copies of the treaty were exchanged.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,589
    OT the sporting highlight of today is the Gold Cup at Royal Ascot, the subject of James Joyce's Ulysses.

    In America, the US Open tees off.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 17,381
    Taz said:

    Nigelb said:

    Trump favourably compares the president of Syria with Netanyahu (whom he also called "very much the junior partner"0.

    “The president of #Syria. He’s done a tremendous job… He’d love to go in [to #Lebanon]… he wouldn’t knock down buildings every time he hears there’s someone there, he’d just go in with precision.”..
    https://x.com/Charles_Lister/status/2067311287126647194

    Of course this is (even for someone like me who thinks Julani/Ahmed al-Sharaa is, on balance, probably now a force for stability in Syria) objectively insane. But it shows which way Trump is leaning.

    Perhaps he’s miffed he got mugged off by Bibi and Mossad to start a war they promised would be over quickly

    I don’t know about his view on Syria but he’s right about Bibi and Israel
    Bibi has overplayed his hand. This is a danger to Israel I think, because MAGA turns on a sixpence. I could see the Trump acolytes suddenly rediscovering their innate anti-Semitism if he continues making pronouncements like this.

    Hopefully the whole sorry affair will have damaged both of their reputations
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 17,381
    Meanwhile with the world's eyes on Hormuz and Makerfield, I'm in another geopolitical hotspot. Where am I?


  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,850

    OT the sporting highlight of today is the Gold Cup at Royal Ascot, the subject of James Joyce's Ulysses.

    In America, the US Open tees off.

    Fake news.

    The sporting highlight of today is day 2 of the England v New Zealand test.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,029
    Nigelb said:

    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    This (phased array ultrasound full body scanner) is very cool, and seems to be entirely valid technically.
    Sell your shares in MRI manufacturers.

    amazing new medical tech from Midjourney

    "This is a new kind of infrastructure. It’s Full Body Ultrasonic Computational Tomography. No such device has ever been built until now, and yeah, we’re calling it the Midjourney Scanner."

    "Less than a dozen of these machines operating together at full speed can do more full body scans than every MRI machine together on Earth. Our goal is to build a fleet of 50,000 of these scanners, capable together of doing a billion scans a month—enough to bring full body imaging to everyone on Earth."

    https://x.com/Dr_Singularity/status/2067459556809064863

    Sounds interesting, but the problem is one of interpretation, and also the vast amount of incidental findings.
    Given a resource constrained system like the NHS, we'd better start planning.
    On the upside, it would end wait times for essential scans.
    Be good to not need helium cooling as well.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 2,367

    Nigelb said:

    Trump favourably compares the president of Syria with Netanyahu (whom he also called "very much the junior partner"0.

    “The president of #Syria. He’s done a tremendous job… He’d love to go in [to #Lebanon]… he wouldn’t knock down buildings every time he hears there’s someone there, he’d just go in with precision.”..
    https://x.com/Charles_Lister/status/2067311287126647194

    Of course this is (even for someone like me who thinks Julani/Ahmed al-Sharaa is, on balance, probably now a force for stability in Syria) objectively insane. But it shows which way Trump is leaning.

    Bib has joined the Pantheon of those who Trump feels have personally betrayed him. Quite difficult to come back from that. Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke.
    Haven't found the Tweet but some MAGA influencers want Trump to bomb Israel if Bibi betrays Trump over the Iran deal.
    And their doppelgängers in Israel are raging about Trump's 'betrayal'. Time for Israel to go it alone and perhaps bust out one of their nuclear weapons (which they may or may not possess) in a relatively uninhabited area is some of what I've read.
    Would be interesting if US took out Bibi and his close Cabal in an Osama type raid.

    There one Country on the planet who could reciprocate in kind on Trump and that's Israel via Mossad.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,850
    MelonB said:

    Meanwhile with the world's eyes on Hormuz and Makerfield, I'm in another geopolitical hotspot. Where am I?


    Istanbul.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 17,381

    MelonB said:

    Meanwhile with the world's eyes on Hormuz and Makerfield, I'm in another geopolitical hotspot. Where am I?


    Istanbul.
    Need more precision than that. You'd never win geoguessr
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,850
    Foxy said:

    What do we think of the word 'semiquincentennial'?

    It just feels wrong and ugly to me.

    I was in NZ for the Sesquicentennial (150 years from foundation) so shouldn't 250 years be sestercentennial?
    Yes.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,850
    MelonB said:

    MelonB said:

    Meanwhile with the world's eyes on Hormuz and Makerfield, I'm in another geopolitical hotspot. Where am I?


    Istanbul.
    Need more precision than that. You'd never win geoguessr
    I know it's a park in/next to Tacsim Square.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,850
    Seven days until my four week holiday begins.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 17,381

    MelonB said:

    MelonB said:

    Meanwhile with the world's eyes on Hormuz and Makerfield, I'm in another geopolitical hotspot. Where am I?


    Istanbul.
    Need more precision than that. You'd never win geoguessr
    I know it's a park in/next to Tacsim Square.
    Yes, Gezi park: famously the hotbed of revolutionary NIMBYism.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 17,381

    Seven days until my four week holiday begins.

    Where are you going? And what catastrophes await us here?
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,732
    edited 8:43AM
    Lovely MAGA take. These are the people Farage and Badenoch want us to align to.

    There is a MUCH stronger case to be made for invading the UK, toppling its tyrannical government, and liberating its people than for pretty much any regime change war (to include Iran) over the past 30 years.

    https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/2067278942545859067#m
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,850
    MelonB said:

    Seven days until my four week holiday begins.

    Where are you going? And what catastrophes await us here?
    First two weeks will be at home watching the world cup/visiting bits of Britain.

    Final two weeks a week in Portugal and a week in Ireland.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,457
    MelonB said:

    Seven days until my four week holiday begins.

    Where are you going? And what catastrophes await us here?
    The Russians seize Rockall while Labour are fighting a leadership election, and they're driven off by the Irish fishing fleet, asserting Irish sovereignty to the outcrop.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,067
    https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/2067502764159062213

    Last night, our long-range sanctions once again reached the Moscow region – for the second time this week, the Moscow oil refinery was hit. Targets were also struck in the Rostov region and in temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine. This is a fully justified response to Russian attacks on our cities and communities, and another important result of our warriors’ work against facilities that sustain Russia’s war machine. I thank our Defense and Security Forces of Ukraine for their coordinated efforts – the Security Service of Ukraine, the Unmanned Systems Forces, the Special Operations Forces, Defense Intelligence, and our missile brigade for their precision.

    In recent days, all of our partners have noted the precision and effectiveness of our mid-range strikes and long-range sanctions. It is time the war ended, and Russia must take the necessary steps in diplomacy.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,850
    🟢NEW: Zack Polanski has suggested he did not pay council tax while living on a narrowboat because of living arrangements resulting from “financial hardship”

    In a witness statement to the Greater London Authority (GLA), the Green Party leader also admitted that he should have taken “greater care” over his tax arrangements while living on the vessel in an east London marina

    City Hall has decided not to launch an investigation into Polanski's council tax arrangements

    The monitoring officer said that the matter related to "private circumstances" rather the Polanski's role as a London Assembly member

    They said the decision "does not make any finding on the merits of the underlying concerns”


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/06/18/zack-polanski-financial-hardship-council-tax-green-party-uk/
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,030
    edited 8:47AM

    Nigelb said:

    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    This (phased array ultrasound full body scanner) is very cool, and seems to be entirely valid technically.
    Sell your shares in MRI manufacturers.

    amazing new medical tech from Midjourney

    "This is a new kind of infrastructure. It’s Full Body Ultrasonic Computational Tomography. No such device has ever been built until now, and yeah, we’re calling it the Midjourney Scanner."

    "Less than a dozen of these machines operating together at full speed can do more full body scans than every MRI machine together on Earth. Our goal is to build a fleet of 50,000 of these scanners, capable together of doing a billion scans a month—enough to bring full body imaging to everyone on Earth."

    https://x.com/Dr_Singularity/status/2067459556809064863

    Sounds interesting, but the problem is one of interpretation, and also the vast amount of incidental findings.
    Given a resource constrained system like the NHS, we'd better start planning.
    On the upside, it would end wait times for essential scans.
    Only if the DHSC spends enough money on buying enough scanners.
    An MRI takes 30-60 mins.
    This is claimed to take a couple of minutes.

    Compute capacity is probably the bottleneck ?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,850
    edited 8:48AM
    White supremacists with links to banned neo-Nazi groups are helping to fund Restore Britain.

    Rupert Lowe’s party could hold the balance of power in Thursday’s Makerfield by-election by splitting the Right-wing vote with Reform UK, clearing the way for Labour’s Andy Burnham to win.

    Some of Restore’s supporters are so openly racist that Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, the far-Right activist detained last week under counter-terrorism laws, has questioned whether the party is too extreme.

    Yaxley-Lennon, who uses the alias Tommy Robinson, challenged Mr Lowe to ask whether black people would be allowed to stand as parliamentary candidates for the party, or whether their skin colour would rule them out. Robinson suggested they should be able to stand.


    Among Restore’s recent supporters is Steve Laws, who campaigns for “total remigration” of all non-white people. He posted on social media that he had donated to the party.

    Jared Taylor, an American banned from the UK because of his extreme racist views, has become a paid-up member.

    Other neo-fascists who have paid to join Restore include Sam Melia, who was jailed in 2024 for stirring up racial hatred, Sam Wilkes, a Nazi apologist, and Simon Birkett, who is buying up land for the benefit of “the British people”.

    Mr Laws, who has said he has “signed up and donated” to Restore Britain, describes himself as the founder of Remigration Now, which calls for the expulsion of every non-white and Jewish person from Britain.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/06/17/white-supremacists-fund-rupert-lowes-restore-party/
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,356

    Starmer should take the initiative and sack Miliband in the morning.

    If Starmer removes the whip from Burnham for insubordination, can he still run to be leader?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,589
    FF43 said:

    Lovely MAGA take. These are the people Farage and Badenoch want us to align to.

    There is a MUCH stronger case to be made for invading the UK, toppling its tyrannical government, and liberating its people than for pretty much any regime change war (to include Iran) over the past 30 years.

    https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/2067278942545859067#m

    Leaving the putative invasion of Britain to one side, it is a reminder that MAGA was against Middle East regime change wars and was in that regard betrayed by Trump.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,371

    Nigelb said:

    The history book on the shelf
    Is always repeating itself...

    My my.
    The question is not who will be meeting their Waterloo; rather, who will be Napoleon, and who Wellington ?
    Poor Gebhard von Blücher, forgotten once again.
    Late to the party. Besides we all know who actually won the battle - Sharpe. I've read the book and seen the film.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,506

    algarkirk said:

    Can PB academics/stats people resolve this puzzle?

    1) There are roughly 800,000 18 year olds living in the UK

    2) About 660,000 people start an undergraduate degree each year of which about 18% are foreign nationals, leaving about 540,000 UK nationals.

    3) 540,000 is 67% of 800,000. Far more than the about 35% who are said to go to university.

    Obvs people go at various ages, but the 25 year old going now is an 18 year old who didn't go 7 years ago, so the size of the annual cohort is a decent proxy.

    Not an academic but stat number (2) is the one I'd check first. Is that the number who start a degree or the number on a degree course, because the latter would include all three years of a standard first degree? Does it include Open University students?
    Thanks. There are nearly 2 million people enrolled on first degree courses in the UK. As to OU, the drop out rate is huge and the time taken to graduate substantial. What effect this has on the total figures I don't know as yet.

  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,483

    🟢NEW: Zack Polanski has suggested he did not pay council tax while living on a narrowboat because of living arrangements resulting from “financial hardship”

    In a witness statement to the Greater London Authority (GLA), the Green Party leader also admitted that he should have taken “greater care” over his tax arrangements while living on the vessel in an east London marina

    City Hall has decided not to launch an investigation into Polanski's council tax arrangements

    The monitoring officer said that the matter related to "private circumstances" rather the Polanski's role as a London Assembly member

    They said the decision "does not make any finding on the merits of the underlying concerns”


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/06/18/zack-polanski-financial-hardship-council-tax-green-party-uk/

    Morning all! Let us hope that this time tomorrow Restore and Reform are tearing at each other and Burnham is on (yet another) train to London!

    Just for interest, but do London Assembly members get paid?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,371

    What do we think of the word 'semiquincentennial'?

    It just feels wrong and ugly to me.

    No one wants to know about you and your 'semi'. Its barely morning.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,457
    edited 8:58AM

    Mr Laws, who has said he has “signed up and donated” to Restore Britain, describes himself as the founder of Remigration Now, which calls for the expulsion of every non-white and Jewish person from Britain.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/06/17/white-supremacists-fund-rupert-lowes-restore-party/

    If this thing keeps on escalating I'm going to find myself, along with a lot of other people, completely stateless. Britain won't want me (too Jewish). Ireland won't want me (too English). Austria won't have me (too incapable of speaking German).

    Das Brot ist verdorben.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,850

    🟢NEW: Zack Polanski has suggested he did not pay council tax while living on a narrowboat because of living arrangements resulting from “financial hardship”

    In a witness statement to the Greater London Authority (GLA), the Green Party leader also admitted that he should have taken “greater care” over his tax arrangements while living on the vessel in an east London marina

    City Hall has decided not to launch an investigation into Polanski's council tax arrangements

    The monitoring officer said that the matter related to "private circumstances" rather the Polanski's role as a London Assembly member

    They said the decision "does not make any finding on the merits of the underlying concerns”


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/06/18/zack-polanski-financial-hardship-council-tax-green-party-uk/

    Morning all! Let us hope that this time tomorrow Restore and Reform are tearing at each other and Burnham is on (yet another) train to London!

    Just for interest, but do London Assembly members get paid?
    The Mayor’s salary is £170,282. The salary of an Assembly Member is currently £66,390 per year, except for the Statutory Deputy Mayor which is £118,124 and the Chair of the Assembly which is £79,617.

    https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/governance-and-spending/spending-money-wisely/salaries-expenses-benefits-and-workforce-information
  • PeterCairnsPeterCairns Posts: 148
    edited 8:54AM
    FF43 said:

    Lovely MAGA take. These are the people Farage and Badenoch want us to align to.

    There is a MUCH stronger case to be made for invading the UK, toppling its tyrannical government, and liberating its people than for pretty much any regime change war (to include Iran) over the past 30 years.

    https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/2067278942545859067#m

    Given there was pretty much no case for regeme change in any of these countries, loathsome as those regeme were, this really isn't saying much.

    Oh and that is before we get to the fact that Trump seems happy to deal with any loathsome regeme.... Once they switch the top man!

    Peter.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,506

    White supremacists with links to banned neo-Nazi groups are helping to fund Restore Britain.

    Rupert Lowe’s party could hold the balance of power in Thursday’s Makerfield by-election by splitting the Right-wing vote with Reform UK, clearing the way for Labour’s Andy Burnham to win.

    Some of Restore’s supporters are so openly racist that Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, the far-Right activist detained last week under counter-terrorism laws, has questioned whether the party is too extreme.

    Yaxley-Lennon, who uses the alias Tommy Robinson, challenged Mr Lowe to ask whether black people would be allowed to stand as parliamentary candidates for the party, or whether their skin colour would rule them out. Robinson suggested they should be able to stand.


    Among Restore’s recent supporters is Steve Laws, who campaigns for “total remigration” of all non-white people. He posted on social media that he had donated to the party.

    Jared Taylor, an American banned from the UK because of his extreme racist views, has become a paid-up member.

    Other neo-fascists who have paid to join Restore include Sam Melia, who was jailed in 2024 for stirring up racial hatred, Sam Wilkes, a Nazi apologist, and Simon Birkett, who is buying up land for the benefit of “the British people”.

    Mr Laws, who has said he has “signed up and donated” to Restore Britain, describes himself as the founder of Remigration Now, which calls for the expulsion of every non-white and Jewish person from Britain.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/06/17/white-supremacists-fund-rupert-lowes-restore-party/

    Is it reassuring, troubling, or just odd that Farage should start sounding like a wet liberal with a passion for the rule of law and a desire for peaceful integration?

    As to the unfolding of the monsters of the sleep of reason, will the Vikings wanting to expel the Saxons get their first, or will the Anglians wanting to expel the Picts beat them to it?

  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,371
    Nigelb said:

    This (phased array ultrasound full body scanner) is very cool, and seems to be entirely valid technically.
    Sell your shares in MRI manufacturers.

    amazing new medical tech from Midjourney

    "This is a new kind of infrastructure. It’s Full Body Ultrasonic Computational Tomography. No such device has ever been built until now, and yeah, we’re calling it the Midjourney Scanner."

    "Less than a dozen of these machines operating together at full speed can do more full body scans than every MRI machine together on Earth. Our goal is to build a fleet of 50,000 of these scanners, capable together of doing a billion scans a month—enough to bring full body imaging to everyone on Earth."

    https://x.com/Dr_Singularity/status/2067459556809064863

    Good - we are running out of helium for the superconductors (and I need it for my NMR's).
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,371

    Huge turnout in Makerfield.
    I can see the queues from Brighton pier.

    Is it brisk, though?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 81,169

    White supremacists with links to banned neo-Nazi groups are helping to fund Restore Britain.

    Rupert Lowe’s party could hold the balance of power in Thursday’s Makerfield by-election by splitting the Right-wing vote with Reform UK, clearing the way for Labour’s Andy Burnham to win.

    Some of Restore’s supporters are so openly racist that Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, the far-Right activist detained last week under counter-terrorism laws, has questioned whether the party is too extreme.

    Yaxley-Lennon, who uses the alias Tommy Robinson, challenged Mr Lowe to ask whether black people would be allowed to stand as parliamentary candidates for the party, or whether their skin colour would rule them out. Robinson suggested they should be able to stand.


    Among Restore’s recent supporters is Steve Laws, who campaigns for “total remigration” of all non-white people. He posted on social media that he had donated to the party.

    Jared Taylor, an American banned from the UK because of his extreme racist views, has become a paid-up member.

    Other neo-fascists who have paid to join Restore include Sam Melia, who was jailed in 2024 for stirring up racial hatred, Sam Wilkes, a Nazi apologist, and Simon Birkett, who is buying up land for the benefit of “the British people”.

    Mr Laws, who has said he has “signed up and donated” to Restore Britain, describes himself as the founder of Remigration Now, which calls for the expulsion of every non-white and Jewish person from Britain.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/06/17/white-supremacists-fund-rupert-lowes-restore-party/

    Steve Laws regards Tommy Robinson as a wet liberal tbh.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,488
    Foxy said:

    Huge turnout in Makerfield.
    I can see the queues from Brighton pier.

    Many dogs at polling stations?
    Are they asking which box is for Brexit?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,371

    algarkirk said:

    Can PB academics/stats people resolve this puzzle?

    1) There are roughly 800,000 18 year olds living in the UK

    2) About 660,000 people start an undergraduate degree each year of which about 18% are foreign nationals, leaving about 540,000 UK nationals.

    3) 540,000 is 67% of 800,000. Far more than the about 35% who are said to go to university.

    Obvs people go at various ages, but the 25 year old going now is an 18 year old who didn't go 7 years ago, so the size of the annual cohort is a decent proxy.

    Not an academic but stat number (2) is the one I'd check first. Is that the number who start a degree or the number on a degree course, because the latter would include all three years of a standard first degree? Does it include Open University students?
    Matches the HESA data (link here https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/higher-education-student-enrolments-uk-2024-to-2025)
  • PeterCairnsPeterCairns Posts: 148
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    Trump favourably compares the president of Syria with Netanyahu (whom he also called "very much the junior partner"0.

    “The president of #Syria. He’s done a tremendous job… He’d love to go in [to #Lebanon]… he wouldn’t knock down buildings every time he hears there’s someone there, he’d just go in with precision.”..
    https://x.com/Charles_Lister/status/2067311287126647194

    Of course this is (even for someone like me who thinks Julani/Ahmed al-Sharaa is, on balance, probably now a force for stability in Syria) objectively insane. But it shows which way Trump is leaning.

    Trump has homoerotic yearnings for al-Sharaa.

    Likewise for Mamdani and Bukele.
    It has been suggested that increasing dementia has lowered his inhibitions.
    Might even be true.
    "Lowered"....How could they get lower... Vances Couch isn't even safe!

    Peter.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,850
    Pulpstar said:

    White supremacists with links to banned neo-Nazi groups are helping to fund Restore Britain.

    Rupert Lowe’s party could hold the balance of power in Thursday’s Makerfield by-election by splitting the Right-wing vote with Reform UK, clearing the way for Labour’s Andy Burnham to win.

    Some of Restore’s supporters are so openly racist that Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, the far-Right activist detained last week under counter-terrorism laws, has questioned whether the party is too extreme.

    Yaxley-Lennon, who uses the alias Tommy Robinson, challenged Mr Lowe to ask whether black people would be allowed to stand as parliamentary candidates for the party, or whether their skin colour would rule them out. Robinson suggested they should be able to stand.


    Among Restore’s recent supporters is Steve Laws, who campaigns for “total remigration” of all non-white people. He posted on social media that he had donated to the party.

    Jared Taylor, an American banned from the UK because of his extreme racist views, has become a paid-up member.

    Other neo-fascists who have paid to join Restore include Sam Melia, who was jailed in 2024 for stirring up racial hatred, Sam Wilkes, a Nazi apologist, and Simon Birkett, who is buying up land for the benefit of “the British people”.

    Mr Laws, who has said he has “signed up and donated” to Restore Britain, describes himself as the founder of Remigration Now, which calls for the expulsion of every non-white and Jewish person from Britain.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/06/17/white-supremacists-fund-rupert-lowes-restore-party/

    Steve Laws regards Tommy Robinson as a wet liberal tbh.
    Yup, all to do with Tommeh supporting Israel.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,371
    MelonB said:

    Meanwhile with the world's eyes on Hormuz and Makerfield, I'm in another geopolitical hotspot. Where am I?


    Somewhere that cannot afford to run the fountains?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,968
    Just on Versailles: WWI started as it did partly due to Germany thinking they could rapidly knock out France after absolutely crushing them in the Franco-Prussian war about four decades earlier.

    However, time (and tech) had moved on dramatically. Thank goodness we can draw on such lessons and not waste billions on tanks instead of drones.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,030

    eek said:

    Nigelb said:

    This (phased array ultrasound full body scanner) is very cool, and seems to be entirely valid technically.
    Sell your shares in MRI manufacturers.

    amazing new medical tech from Midjourney

    "This is a new kind of infrastructure. It’s Full Body Ultrasonic Computational Tomography. No such device has ever been built until now, and yeah, we’re calling it the Midjourney Scanner."

    "Less than a dozen of these machines operating together at full speed can do more full body scans than every MRI machine together on Earth. Our goal is to build a fleet of 50,000 of these scanners, capable together of doing a billion scans a month—enough to bring full body imaging to everyone on Earth."

    https://x.com/Dr_Singularity/status/2067459556809064863

    I will wait and see an actual machine because to me this is Midjourney trying to find a purpose and accidentally creating Theranos mark 2
    Theranos didn’t even have any working tech. This does appear to have working tech. Whether it’s as good as they claim, I dunno.
    Remains to be seen.

    It seems to be based on this CalTech proof of principle.

    Whole cross-sectional human ultrasound tomography
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41551-026-01660-4

    Resolution here doesn't compare with MRI, and the scanned subject was submerged in water.
    But there are all kinds of tricks for improving resolution and contrast, both computational and physical (eg phase plates).

    It all looks feasible.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,488

    eek said:

    Given that Trump signed the Iranian peace agreement last night in Versailles - I give you this cartoon




    So based on this analogy, the US is Germany and we should be expecting their version of Hitler to rise to power in the 2030s?
    In this case the Murican version of "quite right wing" is already in power.

    History very rarely repeats exactly (and if it does it is first as tragedy and then as farce), it mostly just rhymes.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,483
    algarkirk said:

    White supremacists with links to banned neo-Nazi groups are helping to fund Restore Britain.

    Rupert Lowe’s party could hold the balance of power in Thursday’s Makerfield by-election by splitting the Right-wing vote with Reform UK, clearing the way for Labour’s Andy Burnham to win.

    Some of Restore’s supporters are so openly racist that Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, the far-Right activist detained last week under counter-terrorism laws, has questioned whether the party is too extreme.

    Yaxley-Lennon, who uses the alias Tommy Robinson, challenged Mr Lowe to ask whether black people would be allowed to stand as parliamentary candidates for the party, or whether their skin colour would rule them out. Robinson suggested they should be able to stand.


    Among Restore’s recent supporters is Steve Laws, who campaigns for “total remigration” of all non-white people. He posted on social media that he had donated to the party.

    Jared Taylor, an American banned from the UK because of his extreme racist views, has become a paid-up member.

    Other neo-fascists who have paid to join Restore include Sam Melia, who was jailed in 2024 for stirring up racial hatred, Sam Wilkes, a Nazi apologist, and Simon Birkett, who is buying up land for the benefit of “the British people”.

    Mr Laws, who has said he has “signed up and donated” to Restore Britain, describes himself as the founder of Remigration Now, which calls for the expulsion of every non-white and Jewish person from Britain.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/06/17/white-supremacists-fund-rupert-lowes-restore-party/

    Is it reassuring, troubling, or just odd that Farage should start sounding like a wet liberal with a passion for the rule of law and a desire for peaceful integration?

    As to the unfolding of the monsters of the sleep of reason, will the Vikings wanting to expel the Saxons get their first, or will the Anglians wanting to expel the Picts beat them to it?

    I really like the phrase "monsters of the sleep of reason". If I knew what it meant I might steal it!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,067

    Pulpstar said:

    White supremacists with links to banned neo-Nazi groups are helping to fund Restore Britain.

    Rupert Lowe’s party could hold the balance of power in Thursday’s Makerfield by-election by splitting the Right-wing vote with Reform UK, clearing the way for Labour’s Andy Burnham to win.

    Some of Restore’s supporters are so openly racist that Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, the far-Right activist detained last week under counter-terrorism laws, has questioned whether the party is too extreme.

    Yaxley-Lennon, who uses the alias Tommy Robinson, challenged Mr Lowe to ask whether black people would be allowed to stand as parliamentary candidates for the party, or whether their skin colour would rule them out. Robinson suggested they should be able to stand.


    Among Restore’s recent supporters is Steve Laws, who campaigns for “total remigration” of all non-white people. He posted on social media that he had donated to the party.

    Jared Taylor, an American banned from the UK because of his extreme racist views, has become a paid-up member.

    Other neo-fascists who have paid to join Restore include Sam Melia, who was jailed in 2024 for stirring up racial hatred, Sam Wilkes, a Nazi apologist, and Simon Birkett, who is buying up land for the benefit of “the British people”.

    Mr Laws, who has said he has “signed up and donated” to Restore Britain, describes himself as the founder of Remigration Now, which calls for the expulsion of every non-white and Jewish person from Britain.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/06/17/white-supremacists-fund-rupert-lowes-restore-party/

    Steve Laws regards Tommy Robinson as a wet liberal tbh.
    Yup, all to do with Tommeh supporting Israel.
    Not only. It’s about disagreements between civic nationalists and ethnonationalists.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,483

    Just on Versailles: WWI started as it did partly due to Germany thinking they could rapidly knock out France after absolutely crushing them in the Franco-Prussian war about four decades earlier.

    However, time (and tech) had moved on dramatically. Thank goodness we can draw on such lessons and not waste billions on tanks instead of drones.

    One of my sons works for a firm which makes and sells drones. He'll be very pleased.
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