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Shortly there will be an election, in which Labour will increase its majority? politicalbetting.com

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Shortly there will be an election in which Labour will increase its majority?, – politicalbetting.com

Assuming Andy Burnham wins the Makerfield by-election I cannot see him risking a snap by-election AND risking a mahoosive majority and potentially becoming a shorter serving Prime Minister than Liz Truss.

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  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,488
    No.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,834
    Brenda will be voting for Reform.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,878
    There won't be an election and Labour will not increase its majority.

    @ydoethur summed it up best below.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,834
    Mahmood as Chancellor could be interesting. Maybe she’ll say the unsayable about welfare.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,168
    Risk three guaranteed years with a super majority Vs Theresa May style failure? He'd be mad to do it.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,424
    edited May 30
    Not likely. Unless Burnham really does have PR as a priority and wants to push the pace.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,949
    edited May 30
    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow cabinet work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564
    edited May 30

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,949
    edited May 30

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Normally though people spend time doing the shadow role / under secretary to the treasury.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564
    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Normally though people spend time doing the shadow role / under secretary to the treasury.
    Ken Clarke didn't, he went from being Home Secretary to Number 11.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,878

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Baffling!

    You're simply not old enough for there to be any possible answers. I'm not sure there are any possible answers.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,748
    edited May 30

    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/

    BEFORE being taken into State ownership...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,949
    edited May 30

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Normally though people spend time doing the shadow role / under secretary to the treasury.
    Ken Clarke didn't, he went from being Home Secretary to Number 11.
    Though he had previously been employment minister and minister of the DTI.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,748
    ydoethur said:

    No.

    "WE CANNOT BE KILLED!"
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564

    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/

    BEFORE being taken into State ownership...
    But ministers have asked train companies to reduce their services this summer in an effort to save money, and GTR will cut dozens of daily services from its schedules between July 18 and the end of August.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,428
    Penalties
  • TresTres Posts: 3,647

    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/

    do you have a reliable link?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,834
    Tres said:

    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/

    do you have a reliable link?
    Not with Thameslink
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564
    edited May 30
    What an absolutely shite penalty.

    Eberechi Eze should retire now.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564
    Huzzah, a victory for football, so glad Set Piece FC have lost.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,748

    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/

    BEFORE being taken into State ownership...
    But ministers have asked train companies to reduce their services this summer in an effort to save money, and GTR will cut dozens of daily services from its schedules between July 18 and the end of August.
    That the extremist pro-EU John Major government went all in on railway Privatisation during his one term of government, does not change the fact that EU law prevented the Renationalisation and vertical integration, in all the years since then, that Brexit has now allowed us to do.

    My concern going forwards, with regards how GBR is set up, and the formerly franchised operators are re-integrated, is that the current Government could leave the door open to another easy Privatisation, by not fully integrating the Train Operators. After all, by keeping Open Access and track access charging, they are choosing not to fully undo the Tory and EU structure. And if the so called 'Integrated Business Units' are not merged together, and don't achieve the efficiencies we all hope they do, then they can very easily be split up and tendered out again.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564
    What an absolutely shite penalty.

    Gabriel should retire now.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564
    Arsenal remain a small club, a European minnow.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,949
    They'll be dancing rioting in the streets of Paris tonight.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,876
    Can you call yourself a big club if you have never won the European Cup?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564
    boulay said:

    Can you call yourself a big club if you have never won the European Cup?

    Still blows my mind that Tottenham Hotspur have won more UEFA trophies than Arsenal.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564
    edited May 30
    boulay said:

    Can you call yourself a big club if you have never won the European Cup?

    To be a truly big club you need to have won at least 5 European Cups/Champions Leagues.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,224

    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/

    But now we can stop blaming everything on privatization and fix the actual problems.

    Ok maybe not. But isn't it pretty to think so?
  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,876

    boulay said:

    Can you call yourself a big club if you have never won the European Cup?

    Still blows my mind that Tottenham Hotspur have won more UEFA trophies than Arsenal.
    Well, Spurs are the flag bearers for North London.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,876

    boulay said:

    Can you call yourself a big club if you have never won the European Cup?

    To be a truly big club you need to have won at least 5 European Cups/Champions Leagues.
    Robert di Matteo (who he?) has won more European Cups than all the other Arsenal managers put together.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,834
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,949
    edited May 30
    I suspect that tweet will generate some fair old column inches and hours of phone ins.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564
    edited May 30
    boulay said:

    boulay said:

    Can you call yourself a big club if you have never won the European Cup?

    To be a truly big club you need to have won at least 5 European Cups/Champions Leagues.
    Robert di Matteo (who he?) has won more European Cups than all the other Arsenal managers put together.
    Bob Paisley, greatest British manager ever, won more European Cups than Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham, Everton, Leeds, and Newcastle combined.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,351
    We was robbed.

  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,126
    Good evening

    It was a poor final with PSG underperforming and Arsenal playing 11 behind the ball

    Anyway Arsenal still looking for their Ist Champion league trophy is quite remarkable when you think about it

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564
    Arsenal must be so glad Liverpool sacked Arne Slot today, it will overshadow Arsenal's defeat in the papers tomorrow.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,323

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Gordon Brown was an historian, you fool, not a lawyer.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,351

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Gordon Brown was an historian, you fool, not a lawyer.
    Economic history though.


  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,323
    TRiP

    Rory & Al say who are the most evil people they've shaken hands with (2 minutes):-
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rmRIhqjib5A
  • DriverDriver Posts: 5,594
    A poor version of it.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,351

    I suspect that tweet will generate some fair old column inches and hours of phone ins.
    That tweet says he is fucking rattled by Restore.



  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,949

    TRiP

    Rory & Al say who are the most evil people they've shaken hands with (2 minutes):-
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rmRIhqjib5A

    Let me guess Boris comes in just above Gaddafi but below Saddam?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,949
    edited May 30
    Atherthon Jnr smashing it around in the T20....didn't get that from his father.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,351
    If Andy B's team did not have a sub-group 'wargaming' an early GE then I would consider them shite at their jobs.

    The whole point of wargaming is to explore situations and strategies and possibilities and most importantly - consequences.



  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 5,492

    TRiP

    Rory & Al say who are the most evil people they've shaken hands with (2 minutes):-
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rmRIhqjib5A

    I win this game - Jimmy Savile - as I overtook him in a half-marathon.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,949
    edited May 30

    TRiP

    Rory & Al say who are the most evil people they've shaken hands with (2 minutes):-
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rmRIhqjib5A

    I win this game - Jimmy Savile - as I overtook him in a half-marathon.
    One to tell the grand kids....

    What car were you in when you passed in his roller?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,447

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Lawyers are badatmaths, more likely.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,447

    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/

    BEFORE being taken into State ownership...
    But ministers have asked train companies to reduce their services this summer in an effort to save money, and GTR will cut dozens of daily services from its schedules between July 18 and the end of August.
    So matching supply with demand during the summer holidays.

    It almost sounds like the market in action.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 23,124

    TRiP

    Rory & Al say who are the most evil people they've shaken hands with (2 minutes):-
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rmRIhqjib5A

    i thought Boris got away lightly. Must have been a toss up with Mugabe!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,488

    Atherthon Jnr smashing it around in the T20....didn't get that from his father.

    Atherton could play shots. He once scored 101 off something crazy like 85 balls (which was fast, for 1998) for Lancashire.

    He just generally didn't.
  • gettingbettergettingbetter Posts: 638

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Gordon Brown was an historian, you fool, not a lawyer.
    Economic history though.


    He means Kenneth Clarke and I think he is right. Certainly not Gordon Brown.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,842
    As Theresa May discovered, voters do not like calling snap early general elections when parties already have clear majorities just because they want to increase that majority.

    As the polls also show, even if Burnham gets a bounce if he replaced Starmer as PM it would still likely be a hung parliament and about 150 Labour MPs would lose their seats. They would certainly not be happy if he called an early election
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 58,872

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Gordon Brown was an historian, you fool, not a lawyer.
    Economic history though.


    He means Kenneth Clarke and I think he is right. Certainly not Gordon Brown.
    Maybe I'm a little bit older but for me it was Nigel Lawson, followed by George Osborne followed by Ken Clarke.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,447

    TRiP

    Rory & Al say who are the most evil people they've shaken hands with (2 minutes):-
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rmRIhqjib5A

    I win this game - Jimmy Savile - as I overtook him in a half-marathon.
    I've shaken hands with a murderer. (Before the murder.)
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564

    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/

    BEFORE being taken into State ownership...
    But ministers have asked train companies to reduce their services this summer in an effort to save money, and GTR will cut dozens of daily services from its schedules between July 18 and the end of August.
    So matching supply with demand during the summer holidays.

    It almost sounds like the market in action.
    Nope.

    A dozen trains per day will be scrapped from Thameslink’s Greenwich line services alone, according to internal briefing notes for staff seen by The Telegraph, and Greenwich council has urged ministers to reconsider cuts which fall at the height of the tourist season.

    Calum O’Byrne Mulligan*, the cabinet member for climate action, sustainability and transport, said: “A reliable and regular rail service is vital for residents right across Greenwich, and so any reduction in services – even if just for a period of time – through any part of our borough would be very disappointing.”

    He told the local Greenwich Wire news website: “I did not receive a formal notification of the timetable changes, and we have sought clarification from Thameslink, urging them to reconsider any potential timetable changes during the school holidays and busiest tourism season.”


    *He's a Labour councillor
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564
    DavidL said:

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Gordon Brown was an historian, you fool, not a lawyer.
    Economic history though.


    He means Kenneth Clarke and I think he is right. Certainly not Gordon Brown.
    Maybe I'm a little bit older but for me it was Nigel Lawson, followed by George Osborne followed by Ken Clarke.
    I was four when Nigel Lawson became Chancellor.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,323
    Roger said:

    TRiP

    Rory & Al say who are the most evil people they've shaken hands with (2 minutes):-
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rmRIhqjib5A

    i thought Boris got away lightly. Must have been a toss up with Mugabe!
    As Rory rattled through his lists, you can understand those MI6 rumours.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 2,185
    Anyone who thinks that Kate Ferguson is a credible journalist and anything but a Tufton Street sponsored Media whore needs certifying.

    No sources
    No fact
    Bare faced lies

    Her interest in Labour is pure mischief, peddling fiction and bile
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Gordon Brown was an historian, you fool, not a lawyer.
    Ah yes, the Chancellor who abolished boom and bust.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,224

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Gordon Brown was an historian, you fool, not a lawyer.
    Ah yes, the Chancellor who abolished boom and bust.
    We can only anticipate Gordo's encyclical, pace Blair, on Labour's current troubles. Jack Straw too, maybe. Who else is still alive from 1997?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,447

    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/

    BEFORE being taken into State ownership...
    But ministers have asked train companies to reduce their services this summer in an effort to save money, and GTR will cut dozens of daily services from its schedules between July 18 and the end of August.
    So matching supply with demand during the summer holidays.

    It almost sounds like the market in action.
    Nope.

    A dozen trains per day will be scrapped from Thameslink’s Greenwich line services alone, according to internal briefing notes for staff seen by The Telegraph, and Greenwich council has urged ministers to reconsider cuts which fall at the height of the tourist season.

    Calum O’Byrne Mulligan*, the cabinet member for climate action, sustainability and transport, said: “A reliable and regular rail service is vital for residents right across Greenwich, and so any reduction in services – even if just for a period of time – through any part of our borough would be very disappointing.”

    He told the local Greenwich Wire news website: “I did not receive a formal notification of the timetable changes, and we have sought clarification from Thameslink, urging them to reconsider any potential timetable changes during the school holidays and busiest tourism season.”


    *He's a Labour councillor
    Greenwich will still have three trains to London each hour.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 2,185
    DavidL said:

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Gordon Brown was an historian, you fool, not a lawyer.
    Economic history though.


    He means Kenneth Clarke and I think he is right. Certainly not Gordon Brown.
    Maybe I'm a little bit older but for me it was Nigel Lawson, followed by George Osborne followed by Ken Clarke.
    Brown
    Clarke

    No one else bear bar 2.

    One could have been great, another who was on his way to being great

    Both sadly taken too young.

    Iain McLeid
    John Smith
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 36,323

    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/

    BEFORE being taken into State ownership...
    But ministers have asked train companies to reduce their services this summer in an effort to save money, and GTR will cut dozens of daily services from its schedules between July 18 and the end of August.
    So matching supply with demand during the summer holidays.

    It almost sounds like the market in action.
    Nope.

    A dozen trains per day will be scrapped from Thameslink’s Greenwich line services alone, according to internal briefing notes for staff seen by The Telegraph, and Greenwich council has urged ministers to reconsider cuts which fall at the height of the tourist season.

    Calum O’Byrne Mulligan*, the cabinet member for climate action, sustainability and transport, said: “A reliable and regular rail service is vital for residents right across Greenwich, and so any reduction in services – even if just for a period of time – through any part of our borough would be very disappointing.”

    He told the local Greenwich Wire news website: “I did not receive a formal notification of the timetable changes, and we have sought clarification from Thameslink, urging them to reconsider any potential timetable changes during the school holidays and busiest tourism season.”


    *He's a Labour councillor
    Greenwich will still have three trains to London each hour.
    Greenwich is a major tourist draw so summer is important.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,748

    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/

    BEFORE being taken into State ownership...
    But ministers have asked train companies to reduce their services this summer in an effort to save money, and GTR will cut dozens of daily services from its schedules between July 18 and the end of August.
    So matching supply with demand during the summer holidays.

    It almost sounds like the market in action.
    Nope.

    A dozen trains per day will be scrapped from Thameslink’s Greenwich line services alone, according to internal briefing notes for staff seen by The Telegraph, and Greenwich council has urged ministers to reconsider cuts which fall at the height of the tourist season.

    Calum O’Byrne Mulligan*, the cabinet member for climate action, sustainability and transport, said: “A reliable and regular rail service is vital for residents right across Greenwich, and so any reduction in services – even if just for a period of time – through any part of our borough would be very disappointing.”

    He told the local Greenwich Wire news website: “I did not receive a formal notification of the timetable changes, and we have sought clarification from Thameslink, urging them to reconsider any potential timetable changes during the school holidays and busiest tourism season.”


    *He's a Labour councillor
    Greenwich will still have three trains to London each hour.
    Just three?

    Have you forgotten the scheduled 12 off-peak trains per hour on the DLR?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564
    carnforth said:

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Gordon Brown was an historian, you fool, not a lawyer.
    Ah yes, the Chancellor who abolished boom and bust.
    We can only anticipate Gordo's encyclical, pace Blair, on Labour's current troubles. Jack Straw too, maybe. Who else is still alive from 1997?
    I would love to hear/read Peter Mandelson's thoughts on Labour's current troubles.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,949
    New rules, which come into force this week, will allow benefits claimants aged 25 and over to receive PIP awards for four years after an initial assessment, and then a further six years after a review. Under the current system, claimants face reviews as often as every nine months.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/30/starmer-makes-easier-stay-on-benefits/
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,781

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Gordon Brown was an historian, you fool, not a lawyer.
    Ah yes, the Chancellor who abolished boom and bust.
    He achieved the first half of that.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,488

    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/

    BEFORE being taken into State ownership...
    But ministers have asked train companies to reduce their services this summer in an effort to save money, and GTR will cut dozens of daily services from its schedules between July 18 and the end of August.
    So matching supply with demand during the summer holidays.

    It almost sounds like the market in action.
    Nope.

    A dozen trains per day will be scrapped from Thameslink’s Greenwich line services alone, according to internal briefing notes for staff seen by The Telegraph, and Greenwich council has urged ministers to reconsider cuts which fall at the height of the tourist season.

    Calum O’Byrne Mulligan*, the cabinet member for climate action, sustainability and transport, said: “A reliable and regular rail service is vital for residents right across Greenwich, and so any reduction in services – even if just for a period of time – through any part of our borough would be very disappointing.”

    He told the local Greenwich Wire news website: “I did not receive a formal notification of the timetable changes, and we have sought clarification from Thameslink, urging them to reconsider any potential timetable changes during the school holidays and busiest tourism season.”


    *He's a Labour councillor
    Greenwich will still have three trains to London each hour.
    Greenwich is a major tourist draw so summer is important.
    Greenwich is a major tourist draw all the time.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,224

    New rules, which come into force this week, will allow benefits claimants aged 25 and over to receive PIP awards for four years after an initial assessment, and then a further six years after a review. Under the current system, claimants face reviews as often as every nine months.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/30/starmer-makes-easier-stay-on-benefits/

    This news depresses me enough to claim PIP.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,466

    carnforth said:

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Gordon Brown was an historian, you fool, not a lawyer.
    Ah yes, the Chancellor who abolished boom and bust.
    We can only anticipate Gordo's encyclical, pace Blair, on Labour's current troubles. Jack Straw too, maybe. Who else is still alive from 1997?
    I would love to hear/read Peter Mandelson's thoughts on Labour's current troubles.
    Tales from the Crypt...
  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,876

    carnforth said:

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Gordon Brown was an historian, you fool, not a lawyer.
    Ah yes, the Chancellor who abolished boom and bust.
    We can only anticipate Gordo's encyclical, pace Blair, on Labour's current troubles. Jack Straw too, maybe. Who else is still alive from 1997?
    I would love to hear/read Peter Mandelson's thoughts on Labour's current troubles.
    Somewhere some oik is getting a steam of messages pinging up on Morgan McSweeney’s stolen I-phone and questioning their life of crime.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 20,916
    edited May 30
    Deleted
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,168
    ydoethur said:

    Atherthon Jnr smashing it around in the T20....didn't get that from his father.

    Atherton could play shots. He once scored 101 off something crazy like 85 balls (which was fast, for 1998) for Lancashire.

    He just generally didn't.
    Many years ago a friend and I were in the habit of writing to sports stars and commentators, usually with a numerous bent. One test Atherton had played four or five different boundary finding shots in a short space of time and the commentator had the cheek to describe him as a limited batsman . We wrote in, and to our surprise received a reply from the offending commentator, Tony Lewis. He dealt with out humour with a complete dead pan response, including the detail that he had asked around the other commentators to confirm his view!

    I still think he was wrong. Atherton could play all the shots, but unlike too many players today, he kept them in the locker most of the time. John Crawley could learn a lot from watching how he built an innings in an era with truly great fast bowling attacks.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,672
    HYUFD said:

    As Theresa May discovered, voters do not like calling snap early general elections when parties already have clear majorities just because they want to increase that majority.

    As the polls also show, even if Burnham gets a bounce if he replaced Starmer as PM it would still likely be a hung parliament and about 150 Labour MPs would lose their seats. They would certainly not be happy if he called an early election

    Well, quite.

    Burnham can look like a "new" Prime Minister simply by not being Starmer and carrying out a wide ranging reshuffle.

    As the "conquering hero" he will reunite Labour and be primus inter pares wihin Cabinet.

    There's a time to go to the country after becoming PM outside an election - Eden, Macmillan, Major and Johnson were all successfully elected after becoming PM through internal party manoeuvrings.

    Those who failed include Douglas-Hume, Callaghan, Brown and Sunak, all of whom became PM but lost the subsequent election.

    Burnham's first hurdle is on June 18th - it's in my view the biggest personal political gamble since Boris Johnson opted to support LEAVE over REMAIN in 2016.

    I also think Makerfield will be one of the most significant by-elections of recent times.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 28,781

    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/

    BEFORE being taken into State ownership...
    But ministers have asked train companies to reduce their services this summer in an effort to save money, and GTR will cut dozens of daily services from its schedules between July 18 and the end of August.
    So matching supply with demand during the summer holidays.

    It almost sounds like the market in action.
    Nope.

    A dozen trains per day will be scrapped from Thameslink’s Greenwich line services alone, according to internal briefing notes for staff seen by The Telegraph, and Greenwich council has urged ministers to reconsider cuts which fall at the height of the tourist season.

    Calum O’Byrne Mulligan*, the cabinet member for climate action, sustainability and transport, said: “A reliable and regular rail service is vital for residents right across Greenwich, and so any reduction in services – even if just for a period of time – through any part of our borough would be very disappointing.”

    He told the local Greenwich Wire news website: “I did not receive a formal notification of the timetable changes, and we have sought clarification from Thameslink, urging them to reconsider any potential timetable changes during the school holidays and busiest tourism season.”


    *He's a Labour councillor
    Greenwich will still have three trains to London each hour.
    Greenwich is a major tourist draw so summer is important.
    So you're saying its a mean time to make cuts?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,168

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Gordon Brown was an historian, you fool, not a lawyer.
    Ah yes, the Chancellor who abolished boom and bust.
    He also invented revisionism, as he abolished Tory boom and bust, as he so wrongly recalled later.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,672

    Good evening

    It was a poor final with PSG underperforming and Arsenal playing 11 behind the ball

    Anyway Arsenal still looking for their Ist Champion league trophy is quite remarkable when you think about it

    None of it will matter when the World Cup grinds into life.
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 5,492
    carnforth said:

    Insiders also say Andy Burnham is lining up Shabana Mahmood for Chancellor.

    Her experience looking at the numbers was 5 minutes of shadow work experience under Harriet Harman's caretaker role.

    Best Chancellor of my lifetime was a lawyer, just like Shabana Mahmood.

    Lawyers are polymaths.
    Gordon Brown was an historian, you fool, not a lawyer.
    Ah yes, the Chancellor who abolished boom and bust.
    We can only anticipate Gordo's encyclical, pace Blair, on Labour's current troubles. Jack Straw too, maybe. Who else is still alive from 1997?
    Blunkett. Who will think the current Home and Justice Secretaries are too soft.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,887

    TRiP

    Rory & Al say who are the most evil people they've shaken hands with (2 minutes):-
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rmRIhqjib5A

    I win this game - Jimmy Savile - as I overtook him in a half-marathon.
    I liked the story about glam wrestler Adrian Street giving Savile a real doing in the wrestling ring because he’d heard he was DAF. He subsequently said he’d have killed if he’d known all the fixing that Jimmy had done.

    Adrian Street, a Welsh professional wrestler, pictured with his father, a coal miner in 1974. Street later became known for ripping out chunks of Jimmy Savile's hair during a wrestling match after Savile had bragged about assaulting underage girls.
    More of Adrian in the comments

    https://x.com/utterlyinterest/status/2059678442539409511?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,672

    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/

    BEFORE being taken into State ownership...
    But ministers have asked train companies to reduce their services this summer in an effort to save money, and GTR will cut dozens of daily services from its schedules between July 18 and the end of August.
    So matching supply with demand during the summer holidays.

    It almost sounds like the market in action.
    Nope.

    A dozen trains per day will be scrapped from Thameslink’s Greenwich line services alone, according to internal briefing notes for staff seen by The Telegraph, and Greenwich council has urged ministers to reconsider cuts which fall at the height of the tourist season.

    Calum O’Byrne Mulligan*, the cabinet member for climate action, sustainability and transport, said: “A reliable and regular rail service is vital for residents right across Greenwich, and so any reduction in services – even if just for a period of time – through any part of our borough would be very disappointing.”

    He told the local Greenwich Wire news website: “I did not receive a formal notification of the timetable changes, and we have sought clarification from Thameslink, urging them to reconsider any potential timetable changes during the school holidays and busiest tourism season.”


    *He's a Labour councillor
    Greenwich will still have three trains to London each hour.
    I don't know how "the tourists" get to Greenwich.

    The other options are the DLR or the Thames Clippers riverboat service.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,168
    Zak, FFS, I want Zak…
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 8,254
    stodge said:

    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/

    BEFORE being taken into State ownership...
    But ministers have asked train companies to reduce their services this summer in an effort to save money, and GTR will cut dozens of daily services from its schedules between July 18 and the end of August.
    So matching supply with demand during the summer holidays.

    It almost sounds like the market in action.
    Nope.

    A dozen trains per day will be scrapped from Thameslink’s Greenwich line services alone, according to internal briefing notes for staff seen by The Telegraph, and Greenwich council has urged ministers to reconsider cuts which fall at the height of the tourist season.

    Calum O’Byrne Mulligan*, the cabinet member for climate action, sustainability and transport, said: “A reliable and regular rail service is vital for residents right across Greenwich, and so any reduction in services – even if just for a period of time – through any part of our borough would be very disappointing.”

    He told the local Greenwich Wire news website: “I did not receive a formal notification of the timetable changes, and we have sought clarification from Thameslink, urging them to reconsider any potential timetable changes during the school holidays and busiest tourism season.”


    *He's a Labour councillor
    Greenwich will still have three trains to London each hour.
    I don't know how "the tourists" get to Greenwich.

    The other options are the DLR or the Thames Clippers riverboat service.
    I would imagine most tourists use the DLR. I used to go to Greenwich when I lived in London, the station is quite a walk from the touristy bits. There are also buses, but the traffic can be appalling
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,126
    stodge said:

    Good evening

    It was a poor final with PSG underperforming and Arsenal playing 11 behind the ball

    Anyway Arsenal still looking for their Ist Champion league trophy is quite remarkable when you think about it

    None of it will matter when the World Cup grinds into life.
    I find this World Cup a complete switch off, and if it is anything like tonight's pre match entertainment at the Champions League then even more so
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564
    Kemi is lowering standards, ferfuxake, what a terrible idea.

    Builders as Tory MPs? I mean no wonder she keeps on getting mullered in elections.

    Badenoch: I want teachers and builders to become Tory MPs

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/30/badenoch-want-teachers-builders-future-tory-mps/
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,672

    stodge said:

    Who could have predicted nationalisation would be utter shite.

    Rail services slashed after Thameslink nationalised

    Britain’s biggest train operator announced the cuts hours before being taken into state ownership

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/30/thameslink-greenwich-nationalisation-rail-heidi-alexander/

    BEFORE being taken into State ownership...
    But ministers have asked train companies to reduce their services this summer in an effort to save money, and GTR will cut dozens of daily services from its schedules between July 18 and the end of August.
    So matching supply with demand during the summer holidays.

    It almost sounds like the market in action.
    Nope.

    A dozen trains per day will be scrapped from Thameslink’s Greenwich line services alone, according to internal briefing notes for staff seen by The Telegraph, and Greenwich council has urged ministers to reconsider cuts which fall at the height of the tourist season.

    Calum O’Byrne Mulligan*, the cabinet member for climate action, sustainability and transport, said: “A reliable and regular rail service is vital for residents right across Greenwich, and so any reduction in services – even if just for a period of time – through any part of our borough would be very disappointing.”

    He told the local Greenwich Wire news website: “I did not receive a formal notification of the timetable changes, and we have sought clarification from Thameslink, urging them to reconsider any potential timetable changes during the school holidays and busiest tourism season.”


    *He's a Labour councillor
    Greenwich will still have three trains to London each hour.
    I don't know how "the tourists" get to Greenwich.

    The other options are the DLR or the Thames Clippers riverboat service.
    I would imagine most tourists use the DLR. I used to go to Greenwich when I lived in London, the station is quite a walk from the touristy bits. There are also buses, but the traffic can be appalling
    The Cutty Sark DLR has reopened after a complete refurb and that's the one most of the tourists will use
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,672

    stodge said:

    Good evening

    It was a poor final with PSG underperforming and Arsenal playing 11 behind the ball

    Anyway Arsenal still looking for their Ist Champion league trophy is quite remarkable when you think about it

    None of it will matter when the World Cup grinds into life.
    I find this World Cup a complete switch off, and if it is anything like tonight's pre match entertainment at the Champions League then even more so
    It'll spark to life once England start their games and even more so if we begin to progress.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,488

    Zak, FFS, I want Zak…

    Why? Are Kent playing Somerset?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,126
    edited May 30

    Kemi is lowering standards, ferfuxake, what a terrible idea.

    Builders as Tory MPs? I mean no wonder she keeps on getting mullered in elections.

    Badenoch: I want teachers and builders to become Tory MPs

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/30/badenoch-want-teachers-builders-future-tory-mps/

    She is right and good on her

    The full context

    Leader of the British Conservative Party Kemi Badenoch speaks to the media outside Westminster Town Hall after winning the Westminster Council from the ruling Labour Party at the local elections, in London, Britain, 08 May 2026

    Kemi Badenoch vowed to ‘reverse the culture that has turned legislators into social workers’

    Kemi Badenoch has pledged that the next generation of Conservative MPs will “focus on the big decisions” instead of acting as glorified social workers.

    The Tory leader also promised that parliamentary business would not be allowed to overwhelm the busy schedules of the professionals she is seeking to attract to the party.

    “Britain needs serious people to steer us through serious times,” she said, and believed people working as teachers, engineers, electricians and builders should consider entering political life.

    Writing for The Telegraph, she called the current Labour Government the most economically illiterate and the most unserious the country has ever had.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,834

    Kemi is lowering standards, ferfuxake, what a terrible idea.

    Builders as Tory MPs? I mean no wonder she keeps on getting mullered in elections.

    Badenoch: I want teachers and builders to become Tory MPs

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/30/badenoch-want-teachers-builders-future-tory-mps/

    Maybe she means people like Sarah Beeny.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/10376096/Sarah-Beeny-interview-Being-a-dictator-would-be-quite-fun.html
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,488

    Kemi is lowering standards, ferfuxake, what a terrible idea.

    Builders as Tory MPs? I mean no wonder she keeps on getting mullered in elections.

    Badenoch: I want teachers and builders to become Tory MPs

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/30/badenoch-want-teachers-builders-future-tory-mps/

    She is right and good on her
    I'll cheerfully become a Tory MP if she'll give me carte blanch at the DfE.

    Or perhaps arme Blanche would be a better term given the number of heads that would roll.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,224

    Kemi is lowering standards, ferfuxake, what a terrible idea.

    Builders as Tory MPs? I mean no wonder she keeps on getting mullered in elections.

    Badenoch: I want teachers and builders to become Tory MPs

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/30/badenoch-want-teachers-builders-future-tory-mps/

    Builder covers a multitude, from labourer to small business owner to large business owner.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,126
    ydoethur said:

    Kemi is lowering standards, ferfuxake, what a terrible idea.

    Builders as Tory MPs? I mean no wonder she keeps on getting mullered in elections.

    Badenoch: I want teachers and builders to become Tory MPs

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/30/badenoch-want-teachers-builders-future-tory-mps/

    She is right and good on her
    I'll cheerfully become a Tory MP if she'll give me carte blanch at the DfE.

    Or perhaps arme Blanche would be a better term given the number of heads that would roll.
    To be fair I am sure you would have a lot to give to sort out the DFE
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564
    ydoethur said:

    Kemi is lowering standards, ferfuxake, what a terrible idea.

    Builders as Tory MPs? I mean no wonder she keeps on getting mullered in elections.

    Badenoch: I want teachers and builders to become Tory MPs

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/30/badenoch-want-teachers-builders-future-tory-mps/

    She is right and good on her
    I'll cheerfully become a Tory MP if she'll give me carte blanch at the DfE.

    Or perhaps arme Blanche would be a better term given the number of heads that would roll.
    See if I were Education Secretary I would abolish the DfE and privatise the schools in this country, give every parent in the country vouchers for private school fees with the money saved.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,126
    carnforth said:

    Kemi is lowering standards, ferfuxake, what a terrible idea.

    Builders as Tory MPs? I mean no wonder she keeps on getting mullered in elections.

    Badenoch: I want teachers and builders to become Tory MPs

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/30/badenoch-want-teachers-builders-future-tory-mps/

    Builder covers a multitude, from labourer to small business owner to large business owner.
    Practical people
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564

    Kemi is lowering standards, ferfuxake, what a terrible idea.

    Builders as Tory MPs? I mean no wonder she keeps on getting mullered in elections.

    Badenoch: I want teachers and builders to become Tory MPs

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/30/badenoch-want-teachers-builders-future-tory-mps/

    She is right and good on her

    The full context

    Leader of the British Conservative Party Kemi Badenoch speaks to the media outside Westminster Town Hall after winning the Westminster Council from the ruling Labour Party at the local elections, in London, Britain, 08 May 2026

    Kemi Badenoch vowed to ‘reverse the culture that has turned legislators into social workers’

    Kemi Badenoch has pledged that the next generation of Conservative MPs will “focus on the big decisions” instead of acting as glorified social workers.

    The Tory leader also promised that parliamentary business would not be allowed to overwhelm the busy schedules of the professionals she is seeking to attract to the party.

    “Britain needs serious people to steer us through serious times,” she said, and believed people working as teachers, engineers, electricians and builders should consider entering political life.

    Writing for The Telegraph, she called the current Labour Government the most economically illiterate and the most unserious the country has ever had.
    Under her watch there's not going to be another generation of Tory MPs.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,126

    Kemi is lowering standards, ferfuxake, what a terrible idea.

    Builders as Tory MPs? I mean no wonder she keeps on getting mullered in elections.

    Badenoch: I want teachers and builders to become Tory MPs

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/30/badenoch-want-teachers-builders-future-tory-mps/

    She is right and good on her

    The full context

    Leader of the British Conservative Party Kemi Badenoch speaks to the media outside Westminster Town Hall after winning the Westminster Council from the ruling Labour Party at the local elections, in London, Britain, 08 May 2026

    Kemi Badenoch vowed to ‘reverse the culture that has turned legislators into social workers’

    Kemi Badenoch has pledged that the next generation of Conservative MPs will “focus on the big decisions” instead of acting as glorified social workers.

    The Tory leader also promised that parliamentary business would not be allowed to overwhelm the busy schedules of the professionals she is seeking to attract to the party.

    “Britain needs serious people to steer us through serious times,” she said, and believed people working as teachers, engineers, electricians and builders should consider entering political life.

    Writing for The Telegraph, she called the current Labour Government the most economically illiterate and the most unserious the country has ever had.
    Under her watch there's not going to be another generation of Tory MPs.
    In your opinion-other opinions are available
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,564
    edited May 30

    Kemi is lowering standards, ferfuxake, what a terrible idea.

    Builders as Tory MPs? I mean no wonder she keeps on getting mullered in elections.

    Badenoch: I want teachers and builders to become Tory MPs

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/30/badenoch-want-teachers-builders-future-tory-mps/

    She is right and good on her

    The full context

    Leader of the British Conservative Party Kemi Badenoch speaks to the media outside Westminster Town Hall after winning the Westminster Council from the ruling Labour Party at the local elections, in London, Britain, 08 May 2026

    Kemi Badenoch vowed to ‘reverse the culture that has turned legislators into social workers’

    Kemi Badenoch has pledged that the next generation of Conservative MPs will “focus on the big decisions” instead of acting as glorified social workers.

    The Tory leader also promised that parliamentary business would not be allowed to overwhelm the busy schedules of the professionals she is seeking to attract to the party.

    “Britain needs serious people to steer us through serious times,” she said, and believed people working as teachers, engineers, electricians and builders should consider entering political life.

    Writing for The Telegraph, she called the current Labour Government the most economically illiterate and the most unserious the country has ever had.
    Under her watch there's not going to be another generation of Tory MPs.
    In your opinion-other opinions are available
    Not my opinion, just have a look at the recent elections.

    She says this 'the current Labour Government the most economically illiterate and the most unserious the country has ever had' so why are the Tories going backwards in every election fought under her watch, the Tories should be making net gains.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,872
    Much data on the Loser here:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/map-shows-states-where-trump-s-approval-rating-has-crashed-most/ar-AA24qgA7?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=fa870dbabe884f9be47aee9413538622&ei=12
    Key Points
    Net approval has declined in every state since Trump returned to office in January 2025.
    The steepest drops are in Republican-leaning states, not just Democratic strongholds.
    Several battlegrounds, including Florida, Ohio and Nevada, have shifted into net disapproval.
    Early pro‑Trump advantages have narrowed sharply, even in his strongest states.
    The political map still resembles the partisan divide, but with weaker margins across the board.
    It is not obvious -- at least to me -- how he can stop, or even slow, the decline in his support.
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