What idiot decided to change the time of the champions league final without telling anyone?
They seem to have told the teams and the fans and the broadcasters. Were you expecting a personalised letter to inform you?
i'd have expected it to be mentioned in the weeks build-up at some point, yes.
Well a top tip for future reference is that if there is a sports event you would like to watch in the future use the internet and ask something like “what time does the x event happen” and then you will magically have the answer. This will prevent you coming on here during the World Cup and asking why nobody told you that England v Croatia wasn’t at 8pm UK time. No need to thank me.
its been on saturday 8pm or so for the last decade shrugemoji
At least you found out at halftime.
haha i wandered in from the garden at abut 530. My mates are now texting me to tell that the second half has started!
What idiot decided to change the time of the champions league final without telling anyone?
They seem to have told the teams and the fans and the broadcasters. Were you expecting a personalised letter to inform you?
i'd have expected it to be mentioned in the weeks build-up at some point, yes.
Well a top tip for future reference is that if there is a sports event you would like to watch in the future use the internet and ask something like “what time does the x event happen” and then you will magically have the answer. This will prevent you coming on here during the World Cup and asking why nobody told you that England v Croatia wasn’t at 8pm UK time. No need to thank me.
its been on saturday 8pm or so for the last decade shrugemoji
At least you found out at halftime.
haha i wandered in from the garden at abut 530. My mates are now texting me to tell that the second half has started!
What idiot decided to change the time of the champions league final without telling anyone?
They seem to have told the teams and the fans and the broadcasters. Were you expecting a personalised letter to inform you?
i'd have expected it to be mentioned in the weeks build-up at some point, yes.
Well a top tip for future reference is that if there is a sports event you would like to watch in the future use the internet and ask something like “what time does the x event happen” and then you will magically have the answer. This will prevent you coming on here during the World Cup and asking why nobody told you that England v Croatia wasn’t at 8pm UK time. No need to thank me.
its been on saturday 8pm or so for the last decade shrugemoji
At least you found out at halftime.
haha i wandered in from the garden at abut 530. My mates are now texting me to tell that the second half has started!
Tony Blair privately advised Keir Starmer to fight on as prime minister in the weeks before publicly accusing him of having “no coherent plan” to run the country
The prime minister sought Blair’s counsel in a private call after Labour's local election losses earlier this month
Blair, who was not previously thought to be in close contact with Starmer, told him that he should seek to remain in No 10 for the foreseeable future
Tony Blair privately advised Keir Starmer to fight on as prime minister in the weeks before publicly accusing him of having “no coherent plan” to run the country
The prime minister sought Blair’s counsel in a private call after Labour's local election losses earlier this month
Blair, who was not previously thought to be in close contact with Starmer, told him that he should seek to remain in No 10 for the foreseeable future
12 days to the World Cup. Can anyone ever recall less excitement?
Reasons? Possibles:
It's in the USA so the Trump problem applies. He will barge in. We don't trust or admire the USA currently. Some who always go will stay away. The sense that it's a rip off for those who go. The USA hasn't got any interest in football The time difference problem. The English game is so dominated by foreign stars that the England squad don't feel like familiar superstars. Far too many teams in the finals (48). In 1966 there were 16. So far too many obscure games. Too much, too long, diluted quality. Cape Verde are there and Italy are not. According to the rankings England are the 4th best in the world, which suggests that this isn't going to be a feast of genius, as we are mostly unwatchable. You can watch football on telly if you are a fan more or less 365 days a year. It isn't special.
Football was more exciting when you went with your Dad at 3pm on a Saturday to watch your local team, with local men playing in the team.
Jeremy Hunt: ‘Politics makes you a lousy husband, father and friend’
One of the last Tory ‘big beasts’ still working as an MP, the former chancellor has written a book on fixing Britain’s economy. He reveals what he thinks of Labour’s challengers — and why the triple lock must be scrapped
12 days to the World Cup. Can anyone ever recall less excitement?
Reasons? Possibles:
It's in the USA so the Trump problem applies. He will barge in. We don't trust or admire the USA currently. Some who always go will stay away. The sense that it's a rip off for those who go. The USA hasn't got any interest in football The time difference problem. The English game is so dominated by foreign stars that the England squad don't feel like familiar superstars. Far too many teams in the finals (48). In 1966 there were 16. So far too many obscure games. Too much, too long, diluted quality. Cape Verde are there and Italy are not. According to the rankings England are the 4th best in the world, which suggests that this isn't going to be a feast of genius, as we are mostly unwatchable. You can watch football on telly if you are a fan more or less 365 days a year. It isn't special.
Football was more exciting when you went with your Dad at 3pm on a Saturday to watch your local team, with local men playing in the team.
Scott Ritter has gone utterly bonkers. A sad story.
You will get as much truth from him as from Fucker Carlson.
He was once a sane individual? Like Jeffrey Sachs?
Scott Ritter seemed to have a bad case of Whistle Blowers Disease. He blew the whistle on some real stuff, got some fame. And then went weird in an apparent chase for more things to whistle blow.
Yes - according to people who met him before it went wrong (including one poster here), Ritter used to appear to be reasonable and normal.
12 days to the World Cup. Can anyone ever recall less excitement?
Reasons? Possibles:
It's in the USA so the Trump problem applies. He will barge in. We don't trust or admire the USA currently. Some who always go will stay away. The sense that it's a rip off for those who go. The USA hasn't got any interest in football The time difference problem. The English game is so dominated by foreign stars that the England squad don't feel like familiar superstars. Far too many teams in the finals (48). In 1966 there were 16. So far too many obscure games. Too much, too long, diluted quality. Cape Verde are there and Italy are not. According to the rankings England are the 4th best in the world, which suggests that this isn't going to be a feast of genius, as we are mostly unwatchable. You can watch football on telly if you are a fan more or less 365 days a year. It isn't special.
Football was more exciting when you went with your Dad at 3pm on a Saturday to watch your local team, with local men playing in the team.
Scott Ritter has gone utterly bonkers. A sad story.
You will get as much truth from him as from Fucker Carlson.
He was once a sane individual? Like Jeffrey Sachs?
Scott Ritter seemed to have a bad case of Whistle Blowers Disease. He blew the whistle on some real stuff, got some fame. And then went weird in an apparent chase for more things to whistle blow.
Yes - according to people who met him before it went wrong (including one poster here), Ritter used to appear to be reasonable and normal.
A US analyst whistle blower who later becomes a big friend of the Russian state, Edward Snowdon waves.
12 days to the World Cup. Can anyone ever recall less excitement?
Reasons? Possibles:
It's in the USA so the Trump problem applies. He will barge in. We don't trust or admire the USA currently. Some who always go will stay away. The sense that it's a rip off for those who go. The USA hasn't got any interest in football The time difference problem. The English game is so dominated by foreign stars that the England squad don't feel like familiar superstars. Far too many teams in the finals (48). In 1966 there were 16. So far too many obscure games. Too much, too long, diluted quality. Cape Verde are there and Italy are not. According to the rankings England are the 4th best in the world, which suggests that this isn't going to be a feast of genius, as we are mostly unwatchable. You can watch football on telly if you are a fan more or less 365 days a year. It isn't special.
Football was more exciting when you went with your Dad at 3pm on a Saturday to watch your local team, with local men playing in the team.
Trump may cancel the Freedom 250 concerts now no one wants to play and replace them with him talking bullshit.
“The fact is that I am, according to many, the Number One Attraction anywhere in the World” who gets “much larger audiences than Elvis in his prime” and “does so without a guitar.”
Jeremy Hunt: ‘Politics makes you a lousy husband, father and friend’
One of the last Tory ‘big beasts’ still working as an MP, the former chancellor has written a book on fixing Britain’s economy. He reveals what he thinks of Labour’s challengers — and why the triple lock must be scrapped
Jeremy Hunt: ‘Politics makes you a lousy husband, father and friend’
One of the last Tory ‘big beasts’ still working as an MP, the former chancellor has written a book on fixing Britain’s economy. He reveals what he thinks of Labour’s challengers — and why the triple lock must be scrapped
The US, UK and Australia say they will develop underwater drone technology to protect undersea cables and boost defence, under their military alliance known as Aukus.
The uncrewed undersea vehicle (UUV) technology is expected to be ready by next year. While the project's total cost was not stated, UK Defence Secretary John Healey said his nation would contribute £150m ($201m).
"The announcement, made by the countries' defence ministers at a security summit in Singapore, follows claims of slow progress in Aukus's projects.
Acknowledging the criticism, Healey said "for too long in Aukus, we talked too much and delivered too little", adding "that has now changed under our three governments"."
Translation: the multi tens of billions submarine project is stuck in the mud, so here's something shiny that's 50 times cheaper. It's a success!
You say that like it's a bad thing..
The problem is again that they are latching onto the latest thing while not understanding it.
Firstly even with drones, assuming the other side has them too, even if yours are better, just exactly how do you protect it. The four main cables are between them 4.5k km, 6.2k km, 6.7k km and 13k km, any or all of which can be cut at any point.
Much like the challenge fired at my lot, the SNP; "How would you defend the Rigs!!!" The honest answer isn't to talk about Frigates, it's to admit we can't and neither can you, because there are just too many spread over too big an area!
The real solution to the cables is to stop relying on sending data back and forth to the US as well as accepting that Musk and Bezos are as cable of cutting it off ,and probably more so, than the Chinese. The classic response to that has always been but the US is an ally, but that was before Trump.
Secondly drones will soon be abe to replace SSN's like Aukus. They are far cheaper, can be built far faster, can stay at sea longer and go deeper and they are expendable. Much like unmaned aircraft or kamakazie drones Politicians who camapigned on spending billions to keep us safe, while backing British business and creating thousands of high quality jobs, are having to come to terms with a future where theose promises can't be met.
An new SSN can cost more than £3bn, a Chinese armed underwater drone less than £20m, so you can get forty drones for less than a quarter of the price of an SSN which only carries less than thirty torpedos. You run out of ammo before they run out of drones.
You can build large drones on a production line split across a number of much smaller yards.
It can take a year to build a large underwater drone but that will shorten as production ramps up and China across multiple yards could easily turn out dozens a year. The time line to build an Aukus is estimated at 8-10 years each and we are unlikely to be able to build more than four in twenty years given capacity.
Sooner or later ,and probably later after wasting billions, we will abandon Aukus altogether.
Trump may cancel the Freedom 250 concerts now no one wants to play and replace them with him talking bullshit.
“The fact is that I am, according to many, the Number One Attraction anywhere in the World” who gets “much larger audiences than Elvis in his prime” and “does so without a guitar.”
12 days to the World Cup. Can anyone ever recall less excitement?
Reasons? Possibles:
It's in the USA so the Trump problem applies. He will barge in. We don't trust or admire the USA currently. Some who always go will stay away. The sense that it's a rip off for those who go. The USA hasn't got any interest in football The time difference problem. The English game is so dominated by foreign stars that the England squad don't feel like familiar superstars. Far too many teams in the finals (48). In 1966 there were 16. So far too many obscure games. Too much, too long, diluted quality. Cape Verde are there and Italy are not. According to the rankings England are the 4th best in the world, which suggests that this isn't going to be a feast of genius, as we are mostly unwatchable. You can watch football on telly if you are a fan more or less 365 days a year. It isn't special.
Football was more exciting when you went with your Dad at 3pm on a Saturday to watch your local team, with local men playing in the team.
I went with our next door neighbour to St Andrews. So it really wasn't.
Once you've been to St Andrews as a kid you are a blue nose.
No other ground in Midlands comes remotely close for atmosphere...
Scott Ritter has gone utterly bonkers. A sad story.
You will get as much truth from him as from Fucker Carlson.
He was once a sane individual? Like Jeffrey Sachs?
Scott Ritter seemed to have a bad case of Whistle Blowers Disease. He blew the whistle on some real stuff, got some fame. And then went weird in an apparent chase for more things to whistle blow.
Yes - according to people who met him before it went wrong (including one poster here), Ritter used to appear to be reasonable and normal.
A US analyst whistle blower who later becomes a big friend of the Russian state, Edward Snowdon waves.
I think he got stuck in Russia on his way to South America. After that, he had to be pro Russian so not to get deported back to the US
Trump may cancel the Freedom 250 concerts now no one wants to play and replace them with him talking bullshit.
“The fact is that I am, according to many, the Number One Attraction anywhere in the World” who gets “much larger audiences than Elvis in his prime” and “does so without a guitar.”
12 days to the World Cup. Can anyone ever recall less excitement?
Reasons? Possibles:
It's in the USA so the Trump problem applies. He will barge in. We don't trust or admire the USA currently. Some who always go will stay away. The sense that it's a rip off for those who go. The USA hasn't got any interest in football The time difference problem. The English game is so dominated by foreign stars that the England squad don't feel like familiar superstars. Far too many teams in the finals (48). In 1966 there were 16. So far too many obscure games. Too much, too long, diluted quality. Cape Verde are there and Italy are not. According to the rankings England are the 4th best in the world, which suggests that this isn't going to be a feast of genius, as we are mostly unwatchable. You can watch football on telly if you are a fan more or less 365 days a year. It isn't special.
Football was more exciting when you went with your Dad at 3pm on a Saturday to watch your local team, with local men playing in the team.
In the 1950's my late dad used to take me to watch Berwick Rangers complete with travel blanket and thermos
It was my first experience of regular Saturday football
When my dad took me to my first football match, it was my first experience of really bad language.
About a dozen years ago when my eldest was 7 the two of us got on a London Overground train and as the doors closed I realised it was almost entirely full of Charlton and Millwall fans on their way to a local Derby... a Millwall fan, well lubricated, walks up slowly to a Charlton fan, points right in his face and says very carefully "you're... a... c**t." Afterwards my daughter, clearly impressed at the volume of swearing on offer, said that it was like they had just learned some new words and wanted to use them as much as possible.
12 days to the World Cup. Can anyone ever recall less excitement?
Reasons? Possibles:
It's in the USA so the Trump problem applies. He will barge in. We don't trust or admire the USA currently. Some who always go will stay away. The sense that it's a rip off for those who go. The USA hasn't got any interest in football The time difference problem. The English game is so dominated by foreign stars that the England squad don't feel like familiar superstars. Far too many teams in the finals (48). In 1966 there were 16. So far too many obscure games. Too much, too long, diluted quality. Cape Verde are there and Italy are not. According to the rankings England are the 4th best in the world, which suggests that this isn't going to be a feast of genius, as we are mostly unwatchable. You can watch football on telly if you are a fan more or less 365 days a year. It isn't special.
Football was more exciting when you went with your Dad at 3pm on a Saturday to watch your local team, with local men playing in the team.
In the 1950's my late dad used to take me to watch Berwick Rangers complete with travel blanket and thermos
It was my first experience of regular Saturday football
When my dad took me to my first football match, it was my first experience of really bad language.
About a dozen years ago when my eldest was 7 the two of us got on a London Overground train and as the doors closed I realised it was almost entirely full of Charlton and Millwall fans on their way to a local Derby... a Millwall fan, well lubricated, walks up slowly to a Charlton fan, points right in his face and says very carefully "you're... a... c**t." Afterwards my daughter, clearly impressed at the volume of swearing on offer, said that it was like they had just learned some new words and wanted to use them as much as possible.
As long as she doesn’t come on here spouting her filth I think that’s healthy for her.
12 days to the World Cup. Can anyone ever recall less excitement?
Reasons? Possibles:
It's in the USA so the Trump problem applies. He will barge in. We don't trust or admire the USA currently. Some who always go will stay away. The sense that it's a rip off for those who go. The USA hasn't got any interest in football The time difference problem. The English game is so dominated by foreign stars that the England squad don't feel like familiar superstars. Far too many teams in the finals (48). In 1966 there were 16. So far too many obscure games. Too much, too long, diluted quality. Cape Verde are there and Italy are not. According to the rankings England are the 4th best in the world, which suggests that this isn't going to be a feast of genius, as we are mostly unwatchable. You can watch football on telly if you are a fan more or less 365 days a year. It isn't special.
Football was more exciting when you went with your Dad at 3pm on a Saturday to watch your local team, with local men playing in the team.
In the 1950's my late dad used to take me to watch Berwick Rangers complete with travel blanket and thermos
It was my first experience of regular Saturday football
When my dad took me to my first football match, it was my first experience of really bad language.
About a dozen years ago when my eldest was 7 the two of us got on a London Overground train and as the doors closed I realised it was almost entirely full of Charlton and Millwall fans on their way to a local Derby... a Millwall fan, well lubricated, walks up slowly to a Charlton fan, points right in his face and says very carefully "you're... a... c**t." Afterwards my daughter, clearly impressed at the volume of swearing on offer, said that it was like they had just learned some new words and wanted to use them as much as possible.
As long as she doesn’t come on here spouting her filth I think that’s healthy for her.
My wife and I are no strangers to swearing, she'd heard plenty of that kind of stuff at home. But weirdly she and her sister never swear. Their brother, on the other hand...
Jeremy Hunt: ‘Politics makes you a lousy husband, father and friend’
One of the last Tory ‘big beasts’ still working as an MP, the former chancellor has written a book on fixing Britain’s economy. He reveals what he thinks of Labour’s challengers — and why the triple lock must be scrapped
Is he looking to be there if the ball slips out the back of the scrum?
As Chancellor Hunt could have been a contender. His Earth salting programme for the next Government was an outrageous dereliction of duty. The irony is he need not have bothered as Rachel Reeves was shite anyway.
12 days to the World Cup. Can anyone ever recall less excitement?
Reasons? Possibles:
It's in the USA so the Trump problem applies. He will barge in. We don't trust or admire the USA currently. Some who always go will stay away. The sense that it's a rip off for those who go. The USA hasn't got any interest in football The time difference problem. The English game is so dominated by foreign stars that the England squad don't feel like familiar superstars. Far too many teams in the finals (48). In 1966 there were 16. So far too many obscure games. Too much, too long, diluted quality. Cape Verde are there and Italy are not. According to the rankings England are the 4th best in the world, which suggests that this isn't going to be a feast of genius, as we are mostly unwatchable. You can watch football on telly if you are a fan more or less 365 days a year. It isn't special.
Football was more exciting when you went with your Dad at 3pm on a Saturday to watch your local team, with local men playing in the team.
I went with our next door neighbour to St Andrews. So it really wasn't.
Once you've been to St Andrews as a kid you are a blue nose.
No other ground in Midlands comes remotely close for atmosphere...
Trevor Francis was an apprentice when I started going. Other than Trevor Francis the Blues were pretty vin ordinaire. Now the Baggies had Jeff Astle, Bomber Brown, Ali Brown and John Osborne in goal. Absolute class!
In the US, "classical liberal" is often used to describe a person who believes in free speech, free press, free trade, and free men. (As I understand it, that is close to the way that liberal would have been used in the UK, during the 19th century.) The Republican Party, when it began. favored three of the four, all except free trade. The slogan used in their first presidential campaiggn, in 1856, was: "Free Soil, Free Speech, Free Men, Fremont!"
The adjective "classical" is needed because, since FDR, "liberal" came, more and more, to include support for a large welfare state.
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The prime minister sought Blair’s counsel in a private call after Labour's local election losses earlier this month
Blair, who was not previously thought to be in close contact with Starmer, told him that he should seek to remain in No 10 for the foreseeable future
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/tony-blair-keir-starmer-essay-prime-minister-scsmxrwtf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD_vBiXYGjk
You will get as much truth from him as from Fucker Carlson.
Then again, he’s a loony *on top of that stuff*
You are watching someone in a spiral.
One of the last Tory ‘big beasts’ still working as an MP, the former chancellor has written a book on fixing Britain’s economy. He reveals what he thinks of Labour’s challengers — and why the triple lock must be scrapped
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/jeremy-hunt-interview-2026-w0t2vt8r5
Is he looking to be there if the ball slips out the back of the scrum?
Yes - according to people who met him before it went wrong (including one poster here), Ritter used to appear to be reasonable and normal.
Terrifying like a wall of death banking.
Two guys locked bikes went flying across footy pitch and ended up in the goal
Trump may cancel the Freedom 250 concerts now no one wants to play and replace them with him talking bullshit.
“The fact is that I am, according to many, the Number One Attraction anywhere in the World” who gets “much larger audiences than Elvis in his prime” and “does so without a guitar.”
https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3mn3mwmt5qk2u
Easier to pontificate from the sidelines than do unpopular stuff when it matters.
Firstly even with drones, assuming the other side has them too, even if yours are better, just exactly how do you protect it. The four main cables are between them 4.5k km, 6.2k km, 6.7k km and 13k km, any or all of which can be cut at any point.
Much like the challenge fired at my lot, the SNP; "How would you defend the Rigs!!!" The honest answer isn't to talk about Frigates, it's to admit we can't and neither can you, because there are just too many spread over too big an area!
The real solution to the cables is to stop relying on sending data back and forth to the US as well as accepting that Musk and Bezos are as cable of cutting it off ,and probably more so, than the Chinese. The classic response to that has always been but the US is an ally, but that was before Trump.
Secondly drones will soon be abe to replace SSN's like Aukus. They are far cheaper, can be built far faster, can stay at sea longer and go deeper and they are expendable. Much like unmaned aircraft or kamakazie drones Politicians who camapigned on spending billions to keep us safe, while backing British business and creating thousands of high quality jobs, are having to come to terms with a future where theose promises can't be met.
An new SSN can cost more than £3bn, a Chinese armed underwater drone less than £20m, so you can get forty drones for less than a quarter of the price of an SSN which only carries less than thirty torpedos. You run out of ammo before they run out of drones.
You can build large drones on a production line split across a number of much smaller yards.
It can take a year to build a large underwater drone but that will shorten as production ramps up and China across multiple yards could easily turn out dozens a year. The time line to build an Aukus is estimated at 8-10 years each and we are unlikely to be able to build more than four in twenty years given capacity.
Sooner or later ,and probably later after wasting billions, we will abandon Aukus altogether.
Peter.
No other ground in Midlands comes remotely close for atmosphere...
Afterwards my daughter, clearly impressed at the volume of swearing on offer, said that it was like they had just learned some new words and wanted to use them as much as possible.
NEW THREAD
The adjective "classical" is needed because, since FDR, "liberal" came, more and more, to include support for a large welfare state.