Kate Ferguson @kateferguson4 · 1h EXCL: Andy Burnham rents out a £480,000 London flat which he bought partly using taxpayers’ cash – leaving him quids in.
His second home has doubled in value since he bought it 20 years ago, according to market experts.
Kate Ferguson @kateferguson4 · 1h EXCL: Andy Burnham rents out a £480,000 London flat which he bought partly using taxpayers’ cash – leaving him quids in.
His second home has doubled in value since he bought it 20 years ago, according to market experts.
Kate Ferguson @kateferguson4 · 1h EXCL: Andy Burnham rents out a £480,000 London flat which he bought partly using taxpayers’ cash – leaving him quids in.
His second home has doubled in value since he bought it 20 years ago, according to market experts.
Doubled in value in 20 years? What real estate hasn't?
As a country we seem to be obsessed with making sure house prices only ever rise, but also criticise people who now have expensive properties - and our perception of exception has not moved in time so 'expensive' can just be a pretty bog standard place in London.
Kate Ferguson @kateferguson4 · 1h EXCL: Andy Burnham rents out a £480,000 London flat which he bought partly using taxpayers’ cash – leaving him quids in.
His second home has doubled in value since he bought it 20 years ago, according to market experts.
I don't think so. He might want this as the final outcome, but it being revealed now so that Reform can plaster it all over their literature is pretty damaging.
Yes. This poll is good for Reform and bad for Labour. I'd have hoped for clearer bluer water between them. It's not a helpful message for the lead to be less than half the Restore number.
Makerfield was 63% Leave and is only the 29th Reform target seat, Reform should be winning it by miles on current polls. That they aren’t suggests a significant Burnham effect
Also that most surviving Leavers regret the decision.
I regret that the electorate put Bozo in charge of sorting out the deal.
But we are slowly achieving the Labour version of Brexit that I voted for.
If the then Shadow Brexit Secretary had done his job properly, they wouldn't have had the chance...
I do actually know one person in real life who is a Restore fan. They reckon they will be outpolling Reform by the end of the summer, which is certainly a confident prediction to make.
They won’t. I remember people saying that about Zemmour.
Kate Ferguson @kateferguson4 · 1h EXCL: Andy Burnham rents out a £480,000 London flat which he bought partly using taxpayers’ cash – leaving him quids in.
His second home has doubled in value since he bought it 20 years ago, according to market experts.
I didn’t plan the day well; I set off with just a small bottle of water for refreshment, and didn’t get to an open shop and bar until I reached Andernos-Les-Bains. I thirstily downed a large IPA at the first bar I saw
I haven’t mentioned IPA yet. Almost every bar I went to had an IPA, mostly local and pretty decent. And they call it eye-pee-ay like us, not ee-pay-ah like I’d expect a French person to. Ale has arrived in France
I also stocked up with beer and water for the rest of the day’s walk. By booking time, Biganos looked in range. I reserved a little cabin with a kitchen and decided to cook for myself again
On the way into Biganos I stopped in a supermarket and bought smoked trout, shallots, a bunch of sorrel, crème fraiche, pasta, butter and a bottle of white
I need to grow sorrel; that sauce was delicious. I made far too much, but ate all of it. My gut was visibly distended
I’m sure it was delicious but it doesn’t half look like cat vomit.
The pasta non-mixers are a breed. Though I know Italians who do likewise.
Had a lovely Sorrel pasta on Gozo once. Foraged from the scrubland around the rural restaurant.
The Tory prediction is painful to look at. The LDs you expect that in a no-hoper by-election, but when it is the big two it just feels very weird.
Just imagine how bad it would be without Kemi’s awesomeness.
The sad thing is they probably would actually be doing worse without her.
I can't see a path out of this for them to be honest - all the cool kids are still going Reform, and half the Tory party wants nothing more than to rejoin (with Reform).
I don't think so. He might want this as the final outcome, but it being revealed now so that Reform can plaster it all over their literature is pretty damaging.
Yes. This poll is good for Reform and bad for Labour. I'd have hoped for clearer bluer water between them. It's not a helpful message for the lead to be less than half the Restore number.
Makerfield was 63% Leave and is only the 29th Reform target seat, Reform should be winning it by miles on current polls. That they aren’t suggests a significant Burnham effect
Also that most surviving Leavers regret the decision.
I regret that the electorate put Bozo in charge of sorting out the deal.
But we are slowly achieving the Labour version of Brexit that I voted for.
If the then Shadow Brexit Secretary had done his job properly, they wouldn't have had the chance...
I do actually know one person in real life who is a Restore fan. They reckon they will be outpolling Reform by the end of the summer, which is certainly a confident prediction to make.
The one Restore voter I know (indirectly) is my friend’s Mum.
She’s in her 60s and voted Remain/never voted for a Farage party.
Her kids say she’s been utterly radicalised by social media.
Every day she sends them a link to something that is demonstrably bollocks.
She genuinely believes a majority of people in the UK are Muslims/migrants.
The Tory prediction is painful to look at. The LDs you expect that in a no-hoper by-election, but when it is the big two it just feels very weird.
Just imagine how bad it would be without Kemi’s awesomeness.
The sad thing is they probably would actually be doing worse without her.
I can't see a path out of this for them to be honest - all the cool kids are still going Reform, and half the Tory party wants nothing more than to rejoin (with Reform).
I would imagine most cool kids wouldn’t be seen dead going anywhere near Reform, even Kemi is more cool than Farage
I didn’t plan the day well; I set off with just a small bottle of water for refreshment, and didn’t get to an open shop and bar until I reached Andernos-Les-Bains. I thirstily downed a large IPA at the first bar I saw
I haven’t mentioned IPA yet. Almost every bar I went to had an IPA, mostly local and pretty decent. And they call it eye-pee-ay like us, not ee-pay-ah like I’d expect a French person to. Ale has arrived in France
I also stocked up with beer and water for the rest of the day’s walk. By booking time, Biganos looked in range. I reserved a little cabin with a kitchen and decided to cook for myself again
On the way into Biganos I stopped in a supermarket and bought smoked trout, shallots, a bunch of sorrel, crème fraiche, pasta, butter and a bottle of white
I need to grow sorrel; that sauce was delicious. I made far too much, but ate all of it. My gut was visibly distended
I’m sure it was delicious but it doesn’t half look like cat vomit.
The pasta non-mixers are a breed. Though I know Italians who do likewise.
Had a lovely Sorrel pasta on Gozo once. Foraged from the scrubland around the rural restaurant.
Most Italians know not to just plonk the sauce on top of the pasta like that. They drain the pasta, keep a bit of the pasta water back to thin the sauce, then add the drained pasta into the pan with the sauce in it, mix well, then finish with a minute with the pan on high heat. Then serve the pasta properly with a good helping of cheese on top (unless there’s fish in the sauce).
I really should discuss politics more with my Restore acquaintance. They are a huge fan of Trump who believes we are already in a civil war in the UK, so I get a very different perspective on life from them. I did have to push back at them about Ukraine genociding Russian speakers though.
I didn’t plan the day well; I set off with just a small bottle of water for refreshment, and didn’t get to an open shop and bar until I reached Andernos-Les-Bains. I thirstily downed a large IPA at the first bar I saw
I haven’t mentioned IPA yet. Almost every bar I went to had an IPA, mostly local and pretty decent. And they call it eye-pee-ay like us, not ee-pay-ah like I’d expect a French person to. Ale has arrived in France
I also stocked up with beer and water for the rest of the day’s walk. By booking time, Biganos looked in range. I reserved a little cabin with a kitchen and decided to cook for myself again
On the way into Biganos I stopped in a supermarket and bought smoked trout, shallots, a bunch of sorrel, crème fraiche, pasta, butter and a bottle of white
I need to grow sorrel; that sauce was delicious. I made far too much, but ate all of it. My gut was visibly distended
I’m sure it was delicious but it doesn’t half look like cat vomit.
The pasta non-mixers are a breed. Though I know Italians who do likewise.
Had a lovely Sorrel pasta on Gozo once. Foraged from the scrubland around the rural restaurant.
I didn’t plan the day well; I set off with just a small bottle of water for refreshment, and didn’t get to an open shop and bar until I reached Andernos-Les-Bains. I thirstily downed a large IPA at the first bar I saw
I haven’t mentioned IPA yet. Almost every bar I went to had an IPA, mostly local and pretty decent. And they call it eye-pee-ay like us, not ee-pay-ah like I’d expect a French person to. Ale has arrived in France
I also stocked up with beer and water for the rest of the day’s walk. By booking time, Biganos looked in range. I reserved a little cabin with a kitchen and decided to cook for myself again
On the way into Biganos I stopped in a supermarket and bought smoked trout, shallots, a bunch of sorrel, crème fraiche, pasta, butter and a bottle of white
I need to grow sorrel; that sauce was delicious. I made far too much, but ate all of it. My gut was visibly distended
I’m sure it was delicious but it doesn’t half look like cat vomit.
The pasta non-mixers are a breed. Though I know Italians who do likewise.
Had a lovely Sorrel pasta on Gozo once. Foraged from the scrubland around the rural restaurant.
They have pasta bushes growing wild?
Not recently since the failure of the last spaghetti harvest.
I find comments like this a bit strange to be honest.
Why? Restore Britain are white supremacists. Of course their canvas team are white.
White nationalists, not white supremacists.
Oh, thank goodness!
Talking of which, in Bergamo this morning there was a street stall signing people up for some new political party ‘National Future’, recently formed by some MEP who has left the already right wing Northern League. His agenda is clearly white nationalist and anti-EU and presumably hopes to exploit the space to the right now that Meloni’s party, originally seen as proto-fascist, has tacked so hard to the centre now it’s in power.
I still can't get my head around this Restore thing. Nobody know who Rupert Lowe outside of Great Yarmouth, how are they polling so high? I know there is the alt-right YouTube lot who have gone Reform isn't racist enough for us, so we are all aboard the Rupert Re-migration train, but they are a fringe lot.
There is a lot of Rupert Lowe holding bureaucrats to account (if that is how you want to frame asking questions on Commons committees) on social media. Although I suspect name confusion between Reform and Restore plays a major part. Normal people do not follow politics as closely as we do.
Maybe somebody should setup a new party called Advance the Reform, Reclaim & Restore the UK.
Its the irony that the battle of the male egos in Reform since Farage parachuted himself in as Leader has already seen him become responsible for the creation of two new tribute act parties as a new home for disgruntled former colleagues and Reform members so soon...
Kate Ferguson @kateferguson4 · 1h EXCL: Andy Burnham rents out a £480,000 London flat which he bought partly using taxpayers’ cash – leaving him quids in.
His second home has doubled in value since he bought it 20 years ago, according to market experts.
Doubled in value in 20 years? What real estate hasn't?
As a country we seem to be obsessed with making sure house prices only ever rise, but also criticise people who now have expensive properties - and our perception of exception has not moved in time so 'expensive' can just be a pretty bog standard place in London.
Ah, but: this is one of those trends that has gone into reverse (or at least come to a halt) without anyone realising. UK house prices, inflation-adjusted, are the same as they were in 2005. 2 decades of zero real terms house price increases. It’s no longer a good investment.
The issue is that people won’t borrow and banks won’t lend.
When trends that were received wisdom reverse it takes a long time for perceptions to catch up. Take a few recent examples:
- world population: about to go into absolute decline, but the Malthusians still have a hold on public opinion - related: immigration in the UK. Plummeting, and could possibly even go negative soon. Not good news, if it means the country’s no longer seen as attractive - Crime: rising until the 1990s, falling since - American obesity: inexorably rising, until it stopped. It’s possible some European countries could become fatter than the USA in not too long - UK household debt:: yes, that old chestnut, but it’s true. We used to spend exuberantly, now we don’t. We’ve gone from over-leveraged to under. Which is the main reason the economy is stagnant.
I didn’t plan the day well; I set off with just a small bottle of water for refreshment, and didn’t get to an open shop and bar until I reached Andernos-Les-Bains. I thirstily downed a large IPA at the first bar I saw
I haven’t mentioned IPA yet. Almost every bar I went to had an IPA, mostly local and pretty decent. And they call it eye-pee-ay like us, not ee-pay-ah like I’d expect a French person to. Ale has arrived in France
I also stocked up with beer and water for the rest of the day’s walk. By booking time, Biganos looked in range. I reserved a little cabin with a kitchen and decided to cook for myself again
On the way into Biganos I stopped in a supermarket and bought smoked trout, shallots, a bunch of sorrel, crème fraiche, pasta, butter and a bottle of white
I need to grow sorrel; that sauce was delicious. I made far too much, but ate all of it. My gut was visibly distended
I’m sure it was delicious but it doesn’t half look like cat vomit.
The pasta non-mixers are a breed. Though I know Italians who do likewise.
Had a lovely Sorrel pasta on Gozo once. Foraged from the scrubland around the rural restaurant.
Most Italians know not to just plonk the sauce on top of the pasta like that. They drain the pasta, keep a bit of the pasta water back to thin the sauce, then add the drained pasta into the pan with the sauce in it, mix well, then finish with a minute with the pan on high heat. Then serve the pasta properly with a good helping of cheese on top (unless there’s fish in the sauce).
True, though there is a widespread social media delusion these days that it thickens the sauce "due to the starch".
The Tory prediction is painful to look at. The LDs you expect that in a no-hoper by-election, but when it is the big two it just feels very weird.
Just imagine how bad it would be without Kemi’s awesomeness.
The sad thing is they probably would actually be doing worse without her.
I can't see a path out of this for them to be honest - all the cool kids are still going Reform, and half the Tory party wants nothing more than to rejoin (with Reform).
I would imagine most cool kids wouldn’t be seen dead going anywhere near Reform, even Kemi is more cool than Farage
Cool kids in this context was a relative term to refer to people on right wing interested in politics. Even though the split is is about 60-40 to Reform vs Tory at this point, the attention, enthusiasm, and interest, is all on the former.
I really should discuss politics more with my Restore acquaintance. They are a huge fan of Trump who believes we are already in a civil war in the UK, so I get a very different perspective on life from them. I did have to push back at them about Ukraine genociding Russian speakers though.
I don't think so. He might want this as the final outcome, but it being revealed now so that Reform can plaster it all over their literature is pretty damaging.
Yes. This poll is good for Reform and bad for Labour. I'd have hoped for clearer bluer water between them. It's not a helpful message for the lead to be less than half the Restore number.
A close race is good for both Labour and Reform.
I don't think something can be good for both of them when it's a straight fight.
I do actually know one person in real life who is a Restore fan. They reckon they will be outpolling Reform by the end of the summer, which is certainly a confident prediction to make.
The one Restore voter I know (indirectly) is my friend’s Mum.
She’s in her 60s and voted Remain/never voted for a Farage party.
Her kids say she’s been utterly radicalised by social media.
Every day she sends them a link to something that is demonstrably bollocks.
She genuinely believes a majority of people in the UK are Muslims/migrants.
I've have heard a relative tell me something obviously nonsense, and when pointed out that it was, respond 'But it says it on Facebook'. I cannot wait to find out what I will one day believe which is nonsense (or already do).
I guess we always had that level of credulity, but more nonsense is now put in front of us to fool us.
I didn’t plan the day well; I set off with just a small bottle of water for refreshment, and didn’t get to an open shop and bar until I reached Andernos-Les-Bains. I thirstily downed a large IPA at the first bar I saw
I haven’t mentioned IPA yet. Almost every bar I went to had an IPA, mostly local and pretty decent. And they call it eye-pee-ay like us, not ee-pay-ah like I’d expect a French person to. Ale has arrived in France
I also stocked up with beer and water for the rest of the day’s walk. By booking time, Biganos looked in range. I reserved a little cabin with a kitchen and decided to cook for myself again
On the way into Biganos I stopped in a supermarket and bought smoked trout, shallots, a bunch of sorrel, crème fraiche, pasta, butter and a bottle of white
I need to grow sorrel; that sauce was delicious. I made far too much, but ate all of it. My gut was visibly distended
What was Andernos-Les-Bains like? It’s twinned with our local town.
A quite ridiculous story on the front of the Mail on Sunday .
We’re supposed to believe the Russians hacked Farage and leaked the story about his £5 million . Why would they try and harm their asset . Surely they want the Putin stooge to win the next GE ,
I really should discuss politics more with my Restore acquaintance. They are a huge fan of Trump who believes we are already in a civil war in the UK, so I get a very different perspective on life from them. I did have to push back at them about Ukraine genociding Russian speakers though.
Why am I not surprised at that last sentence?
There's not really any reason those things should all go together, just as there isn't any particular reason Green politics in the UK should combine with very left wing economics or positions on trans, but 'everythingism' seems to end up joining up all sorts of strands unnecessarily.
Kate Ferguson @kateferguson4 · 1h EXCL: Andy Burnham rents out a £480,000 London flat which he bought partly using taxpayers’ cash – leaving him quids in.
His second home has doubled in value since he bought it 20 years ago, according to market experts.
Doubled in value in 20 years? What real estate hasn't?
His statement from 2012 was very carefully worded and was legal but it stinks
Basically he bought a flat with a large mortgage. Claimed the interest on expenses as was allowed at the time. When the rules changed and he could no longer claim the interest he moved out and rented a new flat which he claimed on expenses. However he kept the existing flat which he rented out - he says to cover the mortgage and agents fees because he didn’t went to sell it but couldn’t afford to live there.
Legal and within the rules but the net result is the taxpayer ended up paying for him to live in London when he already had property there.
Kate Ferguson @kateferguson4 · 1h EXCL: Andy Burnham rents out a £480,000 London flat which he bought partly using taxpayers’ cash – leaving him quids in.
His second home has doubled in value since he bought it 20 years ago, according to market experts.
A quite ridiculous story on the front of the Mail on Sunday .
We’re supposed to believe the Russians hacked Farage and leaked the story about his £5 million . Why would they try and harm their asset . Surely they want the Putin stooge to win the next GE ,
Classic SVR misdirection and extremely sinister that the Mail is happy to play that game.
Thursday May 7, Parentis-en-Born to Bias - 19.6 miles
I could have walked further today, I had good walking weather, enough water, beer and nuts, and plenty of energy. But I wanted to sleep in Bias
I found an apartment at a farmhouse and arrived at about four. I met the hosts, Richard and Gwenola, and was shown around their smallholding
Then Richard gave me a beer, and we had a good chat. Then Gwenola brought me eggs, and Richard gave me directions to the shop, where I bought bread, crème fraiche, cheese and sliced saucisson sec
I made a French toast pizza. I baked the bread a little to dry it so that it would soak up the egg and crème fraiche mix better. Then I fried it briefly in butter
I then topped it with more crème fraiche, cheese and the saucisson, and put it in the oven to bake. I went outside and Richard was there having a smelly smoke
He invited me to join him, and I thought it would be rude not to. We then, by his direction, had a rather political discussion. He was quite a lefty. He’d definitely never vote Le Pen
He knew about the small boats crossing the channel, but couldn’t believe that we put all of the arrivals in hotels. He told me that their police would beat them up, and even as a lefty thought that that was more sensible than hotels
Beating them up sounds even more if a temporary solution. Was there a next step ?
President Trump announced on Saturday that the United States was close to reaching an agreement with Iran toward ending the war and reopening the Strait of Hormuz.
Mr. Trump provided few details about the preliminary agreement, and there was no immediate confirmation from Iran or Israel. It is unclear if the latest negotiations were just about extending the current cease-fire or a more permanent peace.
In a post on Truth Social, Mr. Trump said he had spoken by phone with a number of Arab leaders about a memorandum of understanding “pertaining to PEACE.” He said the agreement was subject to finalization by the United States, Iran and other countries.
“Final aspects and details of the Deal are currently being discussed, and will be announced shortly,” he wrote.
I find comments like this a bit strange to be honest.
Why? Restore Britain are white supremacists. Of course their canvas team are white.
White nationalists, not white supremacists.
Oh, thank goodness!
A distinction without a difference.
There absolutely is a difference.
White nationalists care about being the dominant racial group in their own country.
White supremacists care about being the dominant racial group in every country.
I've not ever heard that distinction. Just that supremacists believe in the, well, supremacy of their race. Whether they are content to do that in one country or expand it to others seems like a matter of individual ambition rather than being distinct from white nationalists - it doesn't seem very likely that a believe in racial dominance and supremacy would stop at the English Channel even if no international invasions were planned.
Are 'Restore' the new spoiler party in the same way Alba in Scotland attempted to be to the SNP, and UKIP during its heyday taking on the Tories? Neither were ultimately very successful in the big constituency battles, though UKIP eventually won their bigger battle against the EU.
It seems some parties who want a big tent with a broad spectrum of views inside, cant keep everyone on board when you have a big ego in charge, Farage, Sturgeon etc.
I'd expect some people to vote Reform in this by election thinking they are voting for Lowe, and vice versa. Not everyone is as switched into politics as members of this board
As for the Restore polling data showing them at 20%+, I'll believe it if its back out by the results
Odds will prob fluctuate between Lab and Reform in this one, could be value backing the 2nd fav if we get crossover
President Trump announced on Saturday that the United States was close to reaching an agreement with Iran toward ending the war and reopening the Strait of Hormuz.
Mr. Trump provided few details about the preliminary agreement, and there was no immediate confirmation from Iran or Israel. It is unclear if the latest negotiations were just about extending the current cease-fire or a more permanent peace.
In a post on Truth Social, Mr. Trump said he had spoken by phone with a number of Arab leaders about a memorandum of understanding “pertaining to PEACE.” He said the agreement was subject to finalization by the United States, Iran and other countries.
“Final aspects and details of the Deal are currently being discussed, and will be announced shortly,” he wrote.
Given the expansive initial stated aims surely if he doesn't permanently curtail any nuclear efforts it is all for naught?
But he needs to get things moving so disruption can start to dial down for the midterms?
The markets have already proven they believe anything he says, so that'll be fine.
I find comments like this a bit strange to be honest.
Why? Restore Britain are white supremacists. Of course their canvas team are white.
I note one of the X comments tonight from a Restore supporter was that Reform are ‘a party of Pakis and ex wet Tories now’.
Basically as well as being a vehicle for Lowe’s vendetta against Farage they are a party of Tommy Robinson lovers and white nationalists as you say
Their lead policy is to deport TSE and anyone who looks like him because of their skin colour. It shouldn’t be a shock to point out that they’re whites supremacists.
US southerners were white supremacists, as were supporters of the S African apartheid regime. Neither wanted to deport black people, as opposed to oppress them.
They may or may not be supremacists, but their defining policy is racist exclusion rather than supremacist.
I find comments like this a bit strange to be honest.
Why? Restore Britain are white supremacists. Of course their canvas team are white.
White nationalists, not white supremacists.
Oh, thank goodness!
A distinction without a difference.
There absolutely is a difference.
White nationalists care about being the dominant racial group in their own country.
White supremacists care about being the dominant racial group in every country.
I've not ever heard that distinction. Just that supremacists believe in the, well, supremacy of their race. Whether they are content to do that in one country or expand it to others seems like a matter of individual ambition rather than being distinct from white nationalists - it doesn't seem very likely that a believe in racial dominance and supremacy would stop at the English Channel even if no international invasions were planned.
White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.[2][3][4] Many of its proponents identify with the concept of a white ethnostate.[5]
Nativism is a political policy of promoting or protecting the interests of native-born or indigenous people over those of immigrants,[1][2] including opposition to immigration.[3]
Based on those definitions Restore as a party is clearly nativist and many of its members are no doubt white nationalists. But you can argue that England should be for the ethnically English (who happen to be white) without necessarily believing that white people are superior - you just need to believe that the English are a people who deserve a country where their interests are treated as paramount.
I find comments like this a bit strange to be honest.
Why? Restore Britain are white supremacists. Of course their canvas team are white.
White nationalists, not white supremacists.
Oh, thank goodness!
A distinction without a difference.
There absolutely is a difference.
White nationalists care about being the dominant racial group in their own country.
White supremacists care about being the dominant racial group in every country.
I've not ever heard that distinction. Just that supremacists believe in the, well, supremacy of their race. Whether they are content to do that in one country or expand it to others seems like a matter of individual ambition rather than being distinct from white nationalists - it doesn't seem very likely that a believe in racial dominance and supremacy would stop at the English Channel even if no international invasions were planned.
White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.[2][3][4] Many of its proponents identify with the concept of a white ethnostate.[5]
Nativism is a political policy of promoting or protecting the interests of native-born or indigenous people over those of immigrants,[1][2] including opposition to immigration.[3]
Based on those definitions Restore as a party is clearly nativist and many of its members are no doubt white nationalists. But you can argue that England should be for the ethnically English (who happen to be white) without necessarily believing that white people are superior - you just need to believe that the English are a people who deserve a country where their interests are treated as paramount.
What is ethnically English? I can understand the concept of culturally English but the English - myself included - are such a mongrel breed that the idea of a single English ethnicity seems to me to be utterly illogical. I am culturally English and that matters to me. But I would never say that TSE was less English than me, nor Kemi Badenoch, Michael Portillo, David Lammy, Sadiq Khan or anyone else who has grown up here and adheres to our mores and customs.
Is Lenny Henry less English than Jasper Carrott?
Before you start throwing around these concepts of "Englishness" you should try defining what that actually means.
I find comments like this a bit strange to be honest.
Why? Restore Britain are white supremacists. Of course their canvas team are white.
White nationalists, not white supremacists.
Oh, thank goodness!
A distinction without a difference.
There absolutely is a difference.
White nationalists care about being the dominant racial group in their own country.
White supremacists care about being the dominant racial group in every country.
I've not ever heard that distinction. Just that supremacists believe in the, well, supremacy of their race. Whether they are content to do that in one country or expand it to others seems like a matter of individual ambition rather than being distinct from white nationalists - it doesn't seem very likely that a believe in racial dominance and supremacy would stop at the English Channel even if no international invasions were planned.
White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.[2][3][4] Many of its proponents identify with the concept of a white ethnostate.[5]
Nativism is a political policy of promoting or protecting the interests of native-born or indigenous people over those of immigrants,[1][2] including opposition to immigration.[3]
Based on those definitions Restore as a party is clearly nativist and many of its members are no doubt white nationalists. But you can argue that England should be for the ethnically English (who happen to be white) without necessarily believing that white people are superior - you just need to believe that the English are a people who deserve a country where their interests are treated as paramount.
What is ethnically English? I can understand the concept of culturally English but the English - myself included - are such a mongrel breed that the idea of a single English ethnicity seems to me to be utterly illogical. I am culturally English and that matters to me. But I would never say that TSE was less English than me, nor Kemi Badenoch, Michael Portillo, David Lammy, Sadiq Khan or anyone else who has grown up here and adheres to our mores and customs.
Is Lenny Henry less English than Jasper Carrott?
Before you start throwing around these concepts of "Englishness" you should try defining what that actually means.
I saw an interview on the street in Bradford where British muslims (born here or immigrated very young judging by the accents) refered to white people in Bradford as "the English". I wonder how widespread that is...
Just saw the Hull City goal, classic 6 yard box poachers goal. Ironic Scotland now have a forward heading for the Premier League, and he's not going on the plane to the USA.
Scotland managers do have a habit of falling out with forwards, Ally McCoist didn't go to France 98, and Duncan Ferguson only amassed a total of 7 Scotland caps. England fans, you don't realise what talent you are blessed with!
I can see Steve Clarke go for Dykes as his first choice striker against Brazil, Shankland more likely to play vs Haiti. Qualification for knockouts will likely depend if they can beat Haiti first game
I find comments like this a bit strange to be honest.
Why? Restore Britain are white supremacists. Of course their canvas team are white.
White nationalists, not white supremacists.
Oh, thank goodness!
A distinction without a difference.
There absolutely is a difference.
White nationalists care about being the dominant racial group in their own country.
White supremacists care about being the dominant racial group in every country.
I've not ever heard that distinction. Just that supremacists believe in the, well, supremacy of their race. Whether they are content to do that in one country or expand it to others seems like a matter of individual ambition rather than being distinct from white nationalists - it doesn't seem very likely that a believe in racial dominance and supremacy would stop at the English Channel even if no international invasions were planned.
White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.[2][3][4] Many of its proponents identify with the concept of a white ethnostate.[5]
Nativism is a political policy of promoting or protecting the interests of native-born or indigenous people over those of immigrants,[1][2] including opposition to immigration.[3]
Based on those definitions Restore as a party is clearly nativist and many of its members are no doubt white nationalists. But you can argue that England should be for the ethnically English (who happen to be white) without necessarily believing that white people are superior - you just need to believe that the English are a people who deserve a country where their interests are treated as paramount.
What is ethnically English? I can understand the concept of culturally English but the English - myself included - are such a mongrel breed that the idea of a single English ethnicity seems to me to be utterly illogical. I am culturally English and that matters to me. But I would never say that TSE was less English than me, nor Kemi Badenoch, Michael Portillo, David Lammy, Sadiq Khan or anyone else who has grown up here and adheres to our mores and customs.
Is Lenny Henry less English than Jasper Carrott?
Before you start throwing around these concepts of "Englishness" you should try defining what that actually means.
Agreed, I’ve posted here before - who is more English, Rishi Sunak or Douglas Jardine? A huge amount of people in the population (ok if they knew Jardine was England Captain for body line) would immediately say he is. He was, as we all know born in India to Scottish parentage whereas Rishi was born in the UK - both had the same education for school and university.
Englishness is an idea not a bloodline or a colour.
I find comments like this a bit strange to be honest.
Why? Restore Britain are white supremacists. Of course their canvas team are white.
White nationalists, not white supremacists.
Oh, thank goodness!
A distinction without a difference.
There absolutely is a difference.
White nationalists care about being the dominant racial group in their own country.
White supremacists care about being the dominant racial group in every country.
I've not ever heard that distinction. Just that supremacists believe in the, well, supremacy of their race. Whether they are content to do that in one country or expand it to others seems like a matter of individual ambition rather than being distinct from white nationalists - it doesn't seem very likely that a believe in racial dominance and supremacy would stop at the English Channel even if no international invasions were planned.
White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.[2][3][4] Many of its proponents identify with the concept of a white ethnostate.[5]
Nativism is a political policy of promoting or protecting the interests of native-born or indigenous people over those of immigrants,[1][2] including opposition to immigration.[3]
Based on those definitions Restore as a party is clearly nativist and many of its members are no doubt white nationalists. But you can argue that England should be for the ethnically English (who happen to be white) without necessarily believing that white people are superior - you just need to believe that the English are a people who deserve a country where their interests are treated as paramount.
What is ethnically English? I can understand the concept of culturally English but the English - myself included - are such a mongrel breed that the idea of a single English ethnicity seems to me to be utterly illogical. I am culturally English and that matters to me. But I would never say that TSE was less English than me, nor Kemi Badenoch, Michael Portillo, David Lammy, Sadiq Khan or anyone else who has grown up here and adheres to our mores and customs.
Is Lenny Henry less English than Jasper Carrott?
Before you start throwing around these concepts of "Englishness" you should try defining what that actually means.
Agreed, I’ve posted here before - who is more English, Rishi Sunak or Douglas Jardine? A huge amount of people in the population (ok if they knew Jardine was England Captain for body line) would immediately say he is. He was, as we all know born in India to Scottish parentage whereas Rishi was born in the UK - both had the same education for school and university.
Englishness is an idea not a bloodline or a colour.
It's only in the last couple of years I've noted the contrary view taking on a lot more prominence online.
Danny (Dennis) Citrinowicz ,داني سيترينوفيتش @citrinowicz
It’s hard to overstate how deeply Netanyahu views this moment as a possible personal and political defeat. A U.S.–Iran agreement under Trump would be a major blow to him mainly diplomatically, but above all politically.
Iran media disputes Trump’s claim Hormuz Strait to reopen Trump’s claim that the Strait of Hormuz will fully reopen as part of a peace agreement with Tehran is “far from reality”, Iran’s semi-official Fars news agency reports.
“Based on the latest exchanged text, if a possible agreement is reached, the Strait of Hormuz will still be under Iran’s management,” it said.
“Although Iran has agreed to allow the number of passing ships to return to the level before the war, this does not at all mean ‘free passage’ to the pre-war situation.
“The management of the strait, determining the route, time, manner of passage, and issuing permits, will remain exclusively under the control and discretion of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Therefore, Trump’s claim in this regard is incomplete and does not correspond to reality.”
Danny (Dennis) Citrinowicz ,داني سيترينوفيتش @citrinowicz
It’s hard to overstate how deeply Netanyahu views this moment as a possible personal and political defeat. A U.S.–Iran agreement under Trump would be a major blow to him mainly diplomatically, but above all politically.
Iran media disputes Trump’s claim Hormuz Strait to reopen Trump’s claim that the Strait of Hormuz will fully reopen as part of a peace agreement with Tehran is “far from reality”, Iran’s semi-official Fars news agency reports.
“Based on the latest exchanged text, if a possible agreement is reached, the Strait of Hormuz will still be under Iran’s management,” it said.
“Although Iran has agreed to allow the number of passing ships to return to the level before the war, this does not at all mean ‘free passage’ to the pre-war situation.
“The management of the strait, determining the route, time, manner of passage, and issuing permits, will remain exclusively under the control and discretion of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Therefore, Trump’s claim in this regard is incomplete and does not correspond to reality.”
I find comments like this a bit strange to be honest.
Why? Restore Britain are white supremacists. Of course their canvas team are white.
White nationalists, not white supremacists.
Oh, thank goodness!
A distinction without a difference.
There absolutely is a difference.
White nationalists care about being the dominant racial group in their own country.
White supremacists care about being the dominant racial group in every country.
I've not ever heard that distinction. Just that supremacists believe in the, well, supremacy of their race. Whether they are content to do that in one country or expand it to others seems like a matter of individual ambition rather than being distinct from white nationalists - it doesn't seem very likely that a believe in racial dominance and supremacy would stop at the English Channel even if no international invasions were planned.
White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.[2][3][4] Many of its proponents identify with the concept of a white ethnostate.[5]
Nativism is a political policy of promoting or protecting the interests of native-born or indigenous people over those of immigrants,[1][2] including opposition to immigration.[3]
Based on those definitions Restore as a party is clearly nativist and many of its members are no doubt white nationalists. But you can argue that England should be for the ethnically English (who happen to be white) without necessarily believing that white people are superior - you just need to believe that the English are a people who deserve a country where their interests are treated as paramount.
What is ethnically English? I can understand the concept of culturally English but the English - myself included - are such a mongrel breed that the idea of a single English ethnicity seems to me to be utterly illogical. I am culturally English and that matters to me. But I would never say that TSE was less English than me, nor Kemi Badenoch, Michael Portillo, David Lammy, Sadiq Khan or anyone else who has grown up here and adheres to our mores and customs.
Is Lenny Henry less English than Jasper Carrott?
Before you start throwing around these concepts of "Englishness" you should try defining what that actually means.
Agreed, I’ve posted here before - who is more English, Rishi Sunak or Douglas Jardine? A huge amount of people in the population (ok if they knew Jardine was England Captain for body line) would immediately say he is. He was, as we all know born in India to Scottish parentage whereas Rishi was born in the UK - both had the same education for school and university.
Englishness is an idea not a bloodline or a colour.
It's only in the last couple of years I've noted the contrary view taking on a lot more prominence online.
I question myself often about my own belief system that I am a “culturist” and am I being a racist. I despise the whole Jafaican accent that has spread amongst certain sections of society, the pervasive of r urban black culture etc etc. To me there are loads of kids of all colours and backgrounds taking on this “culture” and it sucks, it’s misogynistic and homophobic. It’s dumb, basic and frankly shit. To me it’s not where it comes from - a black culture - it’s just shit and isn’t good for the general population.
I think of my black friends from school and after who are more “British” in most ways than a lot of Brits.
So I don’t care what colour or religion someone is who wants to live that “culture” I think they are arseholes. There are millions of people of all colours and religions who live in a quasi British/English idea of culture and that’s great, but I find it hard to accept people who want to live in Britain who have such an alien concept of life and then get angry when their way of life is criticised.
Does this make me racist or just human in wanting to live alongside people who want a roughly similar outlook and life to me.
Maybe I’m just a terrible person. Who knows (I am a terrible person for many reasons).
Iran media disputes Trump’s claim Hormuz Strait to reopen Trump’s claim that the Strait of Hormuz will fully reopen as part of a peace agreement with Tehran is “far from reality”, Iran’s semi-official Fars news agency reports.
“Based on the latest exchanged text, if a possible agreement is reached, the Strait of Hormuz will still be under Iran’s management,” it said.
“Although Iran has agreed to allow the number of passing ships to return to the level before the war, this does not at all mean ‘free passage’ to the pre-war situation.
“The management of the strait, determining the route, time, manner of passage, and issuing permits, will remain exclusively under the control and discretion of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Therefore, Trump’s claim in this regard is incomplete and does not correspond to reality.”
Seems like the key from Trump is getting things to look as much like pre-war as possible, so he may not quibble about the language Iran chooses to use so long as the level of ships is the same as before. Then he can point to the death of Khamenei and destruction of a lot of military capacity and call it a clear victory.
Iran media disputes Trump’s claim Hormuz Strait to reopen Trump’s claim that the Strait of Hormuz will fully reopen as part of a peace agreement with Tehran is “far from reality”, Iran’s semi-official Fars news agency reports.
“Based on the latest exchanged text, if a possible agreement is reached, the Strait of Hormuz will still be under Iran’s management,” it said.
“Although Iran has agreed to allow the number of passing ships to return to the level before the war, this does not at all mean ‘free passage’ to the pre-war situation.
“The management of the strait, determining the route, time, manner of passage, and issuing permits, will remain exclusively under the control and discretion of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Therefore, Trump’s claim in this regard is incomplete and does not correspond to reality.”
Details.
Trump faces the mid terms.
His supporters don't do detail.
They are going to claim that opponents said he could not win/could not reach a peace deal ata ll, and say a deal shows they were wrong and the great Trump showed them all once again. And they will believe it too.
I find comments like this a bit strange to be honest.
Why? Restore Britain are white supremacists. Of course their canvas team are white.
White nationalists, not white supremacists.
Oh, thank goodness!
A distinction without a difference.
There absolutely is a difference.
White nationalists care about being the dominant racial group in their own country.
White supremacists care about being the dominant racial group in every country.
I've not ever heard that distinction. Just that supremacists believe in the, well, supremacy of their race. Whether they are content to do that in one country or expand it to others seems like a matter of individual ambition rather than being distinct from white nationalists - it doesn't seem very likely that a believe in racial dominance and supremacy would stop at the English Channel even if no international invasions were planned.
White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.[2][3][4] Many of its proponents identify with the concept of a white ethnostate.[5]
Nativism is a political policy of promoting or protecting the interests of native-born or indigenous people over those of immigrants,[1][2] including opposition to immigration.[3]
Based on those definitions Restore as a party is clearly nativist and many of its members are no doubt white nationalists. But you can argue that England should be for the ethnically English (who happen to be white) without necessarily believing that white people are superior - you just need to believe that the English are a people who deserve a country where their interests are treated as paramount.
What is ethnically English? I can understand the concept of culturally English but the English - myself included - are such a mongrel breed that the idea of a single English ethnicity seems to me to be utterly illogical. I am culturally English and that matters to me. But I would never say that TSE was less English than me, nor Kemi Badenoch, Michael Portillo, David Lammy, Sadiq Khan or anyone else who has grown up here and adheres to our mores and customs.
Is Lenny Henry less English than Jasper Carrott?
Before you start throwing around these concepts of "Englishness" you should try defining what that actually means.
I saw an interview on the street in Bradford where British muslims (born here or immigrated very young judging by the accents) refered to white people in Bradford as "the English". I wonder how widespread that is...
In my experience, with my inlaws and other Punjabis I know, yes it is common. They are British Asians, not English Asians. My wife doesn't regard herself as English.
I find comments like this a bit strange to be honest.
Why? Restore Britain are white supremacists. Of course their canvas team are white.
White nationalists, not white supremacists.
Oh, thank goodness!
A distinction without a difference.
There absolutely is a difference.
White nationalists care about being the dominant racial group in their own country.
White supremacists care about being the dominant racial group in every country.
I've not ever heard that distinction. Just that supremacists believe in the, well, supremacy of their race. Whether they are content to do that in one country or expand it to others seems like a matter of individual ambition rather than being distinct from white nationalists - it doesn't seem very likely that a believe in racial dominance and supremacy would stop at the English Channel even if no international invasions were planned.
White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.[2][3][4] Many of its proponents identify with the concept of a white ethnostate.[5]
Nativism is a political policy of promoting or protecting the interests of native-born or indigenous people over those of immigrants,[1][2] including opposition to immigration.[3]
Based on those definitions Restore as a party is clearly nativist and many of its members are no doubt white nationalists. But you can argue that England should be for the ethnically English (who happen to be white) without necessarily believing that white people are superior - you just need to believe that the English are a people who deserve a country where their interests are treated as paramount.
What is ethnically English? I can understand the concept of culturally English but the English - myself included - are such a mongrel breed that the idea of a single English ethnicity seems to me to be utterly illogical. I am culturally English and that matters to me. But I would never say that TSE was less English than me, nor Kemi Badenoch, Michael Portillo, David Lammy, Sadiq Khan or anyone else who has grown up here and adheres to our mores and customs.
Is Lenny Henry less English than Jasper Carrott?
Before you start throwing around these concepts of "Englishness" you should try defining what that actually means.
Agreed, I’ve posted here before - who is more English, Rishi Sunak or Douglas Jardine? A huge amount of people in the population (ok if they knew Jardine was England Captain for body line) would immediately say he is. He was, as we all know born in India to Scottish parentage whereas Rishi was born in the UK - both had the same education for school and university.
Englishness is an idea not a bloodline or a colour.
The trouble with that line of argument is it would work much better if England were a country with its own parliament and government. As it is we end up with what Carnforth and Sandy just noted.
Iran media disputes Trump’s claim Hormuz Strait to reopen Trump’s claim that the Strait of Hormuz will fully reopen as part of a peace agreement with Tehran is “far from reality”, Iran’s semi-official Fars news agency reports.
“Based on the latest exchanged text, if a possible agreement is reached, the Strait of Hormuz will still be under Iran’s management,” it said.
“Although Iran has agreed to allow the number of passing ships to return to the level before the war, this does not at all mean ‘free passage’ to the pre-war situation.
“The management of the strait, determining the route, time, manner of passage, and issuing permits, will remain exclusively under the control and discretion of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Therefore, Trump’s claim in this regard is incomplete and does not correspond to reality.”
Seems like the key from Trump is getting things to look as much like pre-war as possible, so he may not quibble about the language Iran chooses to use so long as the level of ships is the same as before. Then he can point to the death of Khamenei and destruction of a lot of military capacity and call it a clear victory.
Danny (Dennis) Citrinowicz ,داني سيترينوفيتش @citrinowicz Absolutely. But it is important to acknowledge that as the war fades further into the background and as the United States turns its attention toward the World Cup, the celebrations marking America’s 250th anniversary, and the approaching midterm elections, the emerging agreement, even if it will falls short of a comprehensive agreement between Washington and Tehran, significantly reduces the likelihood of the United States returning to war with Iran anytime soon.
Got to be honest... this isn't a brilliant poll for Labour, if they are reliant on Restore trying to get over the line. It's like the frog relying on the scorpion. Mind you, the Tories being on 2% is absolutely pathetic. Nice one Kemi.
Iranian foreign ministry spokesman Esmaeil Baqaei, offered what appeared to be an indirect response on X to President Trump’s annoucement that the two sides were close to a peace deal. The post referred to a third-century war between the Roman empire and Persia, in which the Roman emperor “had to come to terms” with the Persians. The post appeared to be the only public statement from a senior Iranian official since Trump’s announcement, and it did not mention Trump, a deal, or Iran’s nuclear program by name.
Got to be honest... this isn't a brilliant poll for Labour, if they are reliant on Restore trying to get over the line. It's like the frog relying on the scorpion. Mind you, the Tories being on 2% is absolutely pathetic. Nice one Kemi.
The Tories building on their achievements in the North West in the locals...
...where they lost every seat they were defending in several local authority areas.
I find comments like this a bit strange to be honest.
Why? Restore Britain are white supremacists. Of course their canvas team are white.
White nationalists, not white supremacists.
Oh, thank goodness!
A distinction without a difference.
There absolutely is a difference.
White nationalists care about being the dominant racial group in their own country.
White supremacists care about being the dominant racial group in every country.
I've not ever heard that distinction. Just that supremacists believe in the, well, supremacy of their race. Whether they are content to do that in one country or expand it to others seems like a matter of individual ambition rather than being distinct from white nationalists - it doesn't seem very likely that a believe in racial dominance and supremacy would stop at the English Channel even if no international invasions were planned.
White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.[2][3][4] Many of its proponents identify with the concept of a white ethnostate.[5]
Nativism is a political policy of promoting or protecting the interests of native-born or indigenous people over those of immigrants,[1][2] including opposition to immigration.[3]
Based on those definitions Restore as a party is clearly nativist and many of its members are no doubt white nationalists. But you can argue that England should be for the ethnically English (who happen to be white) without necessarily believing that white people are superior - you just need to believe that the English are a people who deserve a country where their interests are treated as paramount.
What is ethnically English? I can understand the concept of culturally English but the English - myself included - are such a mongrel breed that the idea of a single English ethnicity seems to me to be utterly illogical. I am culturally English and that matters to me. But I would never say that TSE was less English than me, nor Kemi Badenoch, Michael Portillo, David Lammy, Sadiq Khan or anyone else who has grown up here and adheres to our mores and customs.
Is Lenny Henry less English than Jasper Carrott?
Before you start throwing around these concepts of "Englishness" you should try defining what that actually means.
Agreed, I’ve posted here before - who is more English, Rishi Sunak or Douglas Jardine? A huge amount of people in the population (ok if they knew Jardine was England Captain for body line) would immediately say he is. He was, as we all know born in India to Scottish parentage whereas Rishi was born in the UK - both had the same education for school and university.
Englishness is an idea not a bloodline or a colour.
But one person's idea of it won't be the same as someone else's. Tbh although it can make for interesting light conversation - what does English mean? - I think that's where it should stay. Light conversation. I don't think trying to define and work it into politics is important or useful. The opposite in fact. Those who do it are usually up to no good.
I find comments like this a bit strange to be honest.
Why? Restore Britain are white supremacists. Of course their canvas team are white.
White nationalists, not white supremacists.
Oh, thank goodness!
A distinction without a difference.
There absolutely is a difference.
White nationalists care about being the dominant racial group in their own country.
White supremacists care about being the dominant racial group in every country.
I've not ever heard that distinction. Just that supremacists believe in the, well, supremacy of their race. Whether they are content to do that in one country or expand it to others seems like a matter of individual ambition rather than being distinct from white nationalists - it doesn't seem very likely that a believe in racial dominance and supremacy would stop at the English Channel even if no international invasions were planned.
White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.[2][3][4] Many of its proponents identify with the concept of a white ethnostate.[5]
Nativism is a political policy of promoting or protecting the interests of native-born or indigenous people over those of immigrants,[1][2] including opposition to immigration.[3]
Based on those definitions Restore as a party is clearly nativist and many of its members are no doubt white nationalists. But you can argue that England should be for the ethnically English (who happen to be white) without necessarily believing that white people are superior - you just need to believe that the English are a people who deserve a country where their interests are treated as paramount.
What is ethnically English? I can understand the concept of culturally English but the English - myself included - are such a mongrel breed that the idea of a single English ethnicity seems to me to be utterly illogical. I am culturally English and that matters to me. But I would never say that TSE was less English than me, nor Kemi Badenoch, Michael Portillo, David Lammy, Sadiq Khan or anyone else who has grown up here and adheres to our mores and customs.
Is Lenny Henry less English than Jasper Carrott?
Before you start throwing around these concepts of "Englishness" you should try defining what that actually means.
I saw an interview on the street in Bradford where British muslims (born here or immigrated very young judging by the accents) refered to white people in Bradford as "the English". I wonder how widespread that is...
In my experience, with my inlaws and other Punjabis I know, yes it is common. They are British Asians, not English Asians. My wife doesn't regard herself as English.
Iran media disputes Trump’s claim Hormuz Strait to reopen Trump’s claim that the Strait of Hormuz will fully reopen as part of a peace agreement with Tehran is “far from reality”, Iran’s semi-official Fars news agency reports.
“Based on the latest exchanged text, if a possible agreement is reached, the Strait of Hormuz will still be under Iran’s management,” it said.
“Although Iran has agreed to allow the number of passing ships to return to the level before the war, this does not at all mean ‘free passage’ to the pre-war situation.
“The management of the strait, determining the route, time, manner of passage, and issuing permits, will remain exclusively under the control and discretion of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Therefore, Trump’s claim in this regard is incomplete and does not correspond to reality.”
Seems like the key from Trump is getting things to look as much like pre-war as possible, so he may not quibble about the language Iran chooses to use so long as the level of ships is the same as before. Then he can point to the death of Khamenei and destruction of a lot of military capacity and call it a clear victory.
Danny (Dennis) Citrinowicz ,داني سيترينوفيتش @citrinowicz Absolutely. But it is important to acknowledge that as the war fades further into the background and as the United States turns its attention toward the World Cup, the celebrations marking America’s 250th anniversary, and the approaching midterm elections, the emerging agreement, even if it will falls short of a comprehensive agreement between Washington and Tehran, significantly reduces the likelihood of the United States returning to war with Iran anytime soon.
Exactly. He has to extricate soon, deal or no deal. Iran will know this.
Thank god, there is nothing more that this country needs than someone with their finger on the pulse of the country. We have been crying out for someone who has been living in New York for years on a million plus salary to slay the reform dragon. He was so in touch with normality and reality before he left politics that he must be even better now.
It may well be important that the Reform candidate will be higher up the ballot paper than the Restore candidate - as their surname is earlier in the alphabet.
There were reports that in the locals where parties fielded more than one candidate that the one higher up the ballot paper usually got more votes.
So some people intending to vote Restore may vote Reform by accident. Or they may simply not notice the Restore candidate on the ballot paper.
Thank god, there is nothing more that this country needs than someone with their finger on the pulse of the country. We have been crying out for someone who has been living in New York for years on a million plus salary to slay the reform dragon. He was so in touch with normality and reality before he left politics that he must be even better now.
He's right though. Starmer won under the banner of "Change" and then has run a government that Sunak could have run without a pause for breath.
Breakfast Clubs is the high point tells you everything.
Iranian foreign ministry spokesman Esmaeil Baqaei, offered what appeared to be an indirect response on X to President Trump’s annoucement that the two sides were close to a peace deal. The post referred to a third-century war between the Roman empire and Persia, in which the Roman emperor “had to come to terms” with the Persians. The post appeared to be the only public statement from a senior Iranian official since Trump’s announcement, and it did not mention Trump, a deal, or Iran’s nuclear program by name.
A deal that leaves Iran with loads of refined Uranium, control of the Hormuz straits, and mass-executing it's own citizens is what the war was for though, right? That's why it counts as winning?
Kate Ferguson @kateferguson4 · 1h EXCL: Andy Burnham rents out a £480,000 London flat which he bought partly using taxpayers’ cash – leaving him quids in.
His second home has doubled in value since he bought it 20 years ago, according to market experts.
Doubled in value in 20 years? What real estate hasn't?
I think all of them. From memory (so I might be wrong) house prices tripled between 1995 and 2008, then crashed by 20-25%, then recovered a bit and stabilised, then started to take off after 2013/4 and Osborne's stupid HelpToBuy. Since then the increase has been about 75%, with the drop in flats dragging down the rise in houses. But that is from memory so I might be wrong.
Thank god, there is nothing more that this country needs than someone with their finger on the pulse of the country. We have been crying out for someone who has been living in New York for years on a million plus salary to slay the reform dragon. He was so in touch with normality and reality before he left politics that he must be even better now.
He's right though. Starmer won under the banner of "Change" and then has run a government that Sunak could have run without a pause for breath.
Breakfast Clubs is the high point tells you everything.
Everyone of us on here have been right in the same way, it didn’t take a political savant. Miliband D isn’t a genius for pointing it out. He’s another empty vessel who people thought was special but frankly there a thousands of his like in Charitites and business who are not overly special.
It’s like if you have been single for a long time women who are a bit questionable seem alluring because there is nothing else. He’s Katie Price to an Incel.
I find comments like this a bit strange to be honest.
Why? Restore Britain are white supremacists. Of course their canvas team are white.
White nationalists, not white supremacists.
Oh, thank goodness!
A distinction without a difference.
There absolutely is a difference.
White nationalists care about being the dominant racial group in their own country.
White supremacists care about being the dominant racial group in every country.
I've not ever heard that distinction. Just that supremacists believe in the, well, supremacy of their race. Whether they are content to do that in one country or expand it to others seems like a matter of individual ambition rather than being distinct from white nationalists - it doesn't seem very likely that a believe in racial dominance and supremacy would stop at the English Channel even if no international invasions were planned.
White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.[2][3][4] Many of its proponents identify with the concept of a white ethnostate.[5]
Nativism is a political policy of promoting or protecting the interests of native-born or indigenous people over those of immigrants,[1][2] including opposition to immigration.[3]
Based on those definitions Restore as a party is clearly nativist and many of its members are no doubt white nationalists. But you can argue that England should be for the ethnically English (who happen to be white) without necessarily believing that white people are superior - you just need to believe that the English are a people who deserve a country where their interests are treated as paramount.
What is ethnically English? I can understand the concept of culturally English but the English - myself included - are such a mongrel breed that the idea of a single English ethnicity seems to me to be utterly illogical. I am culturally English and that matters to me. But I would never say that TSE was less English than me, nor Kemi Badenoch, Michael Portillo, David Lammy, Sadiq Khan or anyone else who has grown up here and adheres to our mores and customs.
Is Lenny Henry less English than Jasper Carrott?
Before you start throwing around these concepts of "Englishness" you should try defining what that actually means.
I saw an interview on the street in Bradford where British muslims (born here or immigrated very young judging by the accents) refered to white people in Bradford as "the English". I wonder how widespread that is...
In my experience, with my inlaws and other Punjabis I know, yes it is common. They are British Asians, not English Asians. My wife doesn't regard herself as English.
In my experience - the Cornish and Welsh as the most "Oh - them. The English" line. Closely followed by Punjabis and the Poles. Possibly conflated as I mostly know Punjabis and Poles from the north of England and Scotland and thus anything south/east of Birmingham is to be treated with great suspicion.
President Trump announced on Saturday that the United States was close to reaching an agreement with Iran toward ending the war and reopening the Strait of Hormuz.
Mr. Trump provided few details about the preliminary agreement, and there was no immediate confirmation from Iran or Israel. It is unclear if the latest negotiations were just about extending the current cease-fire or a more permanent peace.
In a post on Truth Social, Mr. Trump said he had spoken by phone with a number of Arab leaders about a memorandum of understanding “pertaining to PEACE.” He said the agreement was subject to finalization by the United States, Iran and other countries.
“Final aspects and details of the Deal are currently being discussed, and will be announced shortly,” he wrote.
We've been here so many times with Trump making similar claims that I'm going to wait until Iran confirm a peace deal before believing it.
Which is incredible. A theocratic dictatorship is a more reliable source of news than the President of the United States.
"The security of our country is intrinsically linked with pride and patriotism, but the sight of our borders undermined and invaded by small boats carrying people expecting to be housed at taxpayers’ expense has eroded confidence and trust.
I welcome that Shabana Mahmood, the Home Secretary, has vowed that she will do “whatever it takes” to tackle illegal immigration, but we can end the trade of the smuggling gangs and the small boats by processing asylum claims at the nearest point of safety.
Making it illegal to claim asylum by small-boat arrival, with a claim only considered if it has been submitted at a designated centre in the Middle East or the Horn of Africa, will bring an immediate end to the number of people trailing across continents to the French coast." (£)
"The security of our country is intrinsically linked with pride and patriotism, but the sight of our borders undermined and invaded by small boats carrying people expecting to be housed at taxpayers’ expense has eroded confidence and trust.
I welcome that Shabana Mahmood, the Home Secretary, has vowed that she will do “whatever it takes” to tackle illegal immigration, but we can end the trade of the smuggling gangs and the small boats by processing asylum claims at the nearest point of safety.
Making it illegal to claim asylum by small-boat arrival, with a claim only considered if it has been submitted at a designated centre in the Middle East or the Horn of Africa, will bring an immediate end to the number of people trailing across continents to the French coast." (£)
"Alberta is about to decide whether it wants to stay in Canada or take steps to become an independent nation.
The provincial premier, Danielle Smith, recently announced that Alberta will hold a referendum to determine its future in Canada. The question to be asked will be: “Should Alberta remain a province of Canada or should the government of Alberta commence the legal process required under the Canadian constitution to hold a binding provincial referendum on whether or not Alberta should separate from Canada?”"
"Alberta is about to decide whether it wants to stay in Canada or take steps to become an independent nation.
The provincial premier, Danielle Smith, recently announced that Alberta will hold a referendum to determine its future in Canada. The question to be asked will be: “Should Alberta remain a province of Canada or should the government of Alberta commence the legal process required under the Canadian constitution to hold a binding provincial referendum on whether or not Alberta should separate from Canada?”"
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Evil bare faced liar at it again.
Would be a 1 bed bedsit in the majority of UK North of Watford
Had a lovely Sorrel pasta on Gozo once. Foraged from the scrubland around the rural restaurant.
I can't see a path out of this for them to be honest - all the cool kids are still going Reform, and half the Tory party wants nothing more than to rejoin (with Reform).
She’s in her 60s and voted Remain/never voted for a Farage party.
Her kids say she’s been utterly radicalised by social media.
Every day she sends them a link to something that is demonstrably bollocks.
She genuinely believes a majority of people in the UK are Muslims/migrants.
The issue is that people won’t borrow and banks won’t lend.
When trends that were received wisdom reverse it takes a long time for perceptions to catch up. Take a few recent examples:
- world population: about to go into absolute decline, but the Malthusians still have a hold on public opinion
- related: immigration in the UK. Plummeting, and could possibly even go negative soon. Not good news, if it means the country’s no longer seen as attractive
- Crime: rising until the 1990s, falling since
- American obesity: inexorably rising, until it stopped. It’s possible some European countries could become fatter than the USA in not too long
- UK household debt:: yes, that old chestnut, but it’s true. We used to spend exuberantly, now we don’t. We’ve gone from over-leveraged to under. Which is the main reason the economy is stagnant.
So you, I and Malmesbury are all screwed, but @JosiasJessop should be OK.
(This is a joke, by the way.)
I guess we always had that level of credulity, but more nonsense is now put in front of us to fool us.
We’re supposed to believe the Russians hacked Farage and leaked the story about his £5 million . Why would they try and harm their asset . Surely they want the Putin stooge to win the next GE ,
Basically he bought a flat with a large mortgage. Claimed the interest on expenses as was allowed at the time. When the rules changed and he could no longer claim the interest he moved out and rented a new flat which he claimed on expenses. However he kept the existing flat which he rented out - he says to cover the mortgage and agents fees because he didn’t went to sell it but couldn’t afford to live there.
Legal and within the rules but the net result is the taxpayer ended up paying for him to live in London when he already had property there.
So in real terms, it's actually gone down in value fairly significantly.
Even as a Glos fan I was thinking a tie would be fair.
Could be mitigation in the forthcoming Lowe Courts of Abritation?
Was there a next step ?
White nationalists care about being the dominant racial group in their own country.
White supremacists care about being the dominant racial group in every country.
President Trump announced on Saturday that the United States was close to reaching an agreement with Iran toward ending the war and reopening the Strait of Hormuz.
Mr. Trump provided few details about the preliminary agreement, and there was no immediate confirmation from Iran or Israel. It is unclear if the latest negotiations were just about extending the current cease-fire or a more permanent peace.
In a post on Truth Social, Mr. Trump said he had spoken by phone with a number of Arab leaders about a memorandum of understanding “pertaining to PEACE.” He said the agreement was subject to finalization by the United States, Iran and other countries.
“Final aspects and details of the Deal are currently being discussed, and will be announced shortly,” he wrote.
It seems some parties who want a big tent with a broad spectrum of views inside, cant keep everyone on board when you have a big ego in charge, Farage, Sturgeon etc.
I'd expect some people to vote Reform in this by election thinking they are voting for Lowe, and vice versa. Not everyone is as switched into politics as members of this board
As for the Restore polling data showing them at 20%+, I'll believe it if its back out by the results
Odds will prob fluctuate between Lab and Reform in this one, could be value backing the 2nd fav if we get crossover
But he needs to get things moving so disruption can start to dial down for the midterms?
The markets have already proven they believe anything he says, so that'll be fine.
They may or may not be supremacists, but their defining policy is racist exclusion rather than supremacist.
Bunch of saddoes, either way.
White supremacy is the belief that white people are superior to those of other races.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism
White nationalism is a type of racial nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white racial and national identity.[2][3][4] Many of its proponents identify with the concept of a white ethnostate.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativism_(politics)
Nativism is a political policy of promoting or protecting the interests of native-born or indigenous people over those of immigrants,[1][2] including opposition to immigration.[3]
Based on those definitions Restore as a party is clearly nativist and many of its members are no doubt white nationalists. But you can argue that England should be for the ethnically English (who happen to be white) without necessarily believing that white people are superior - you just need to believe that the English are a people who deserve a country where their interests are treated as paramount.
Is Lenny Henry less English than Jasper Carrott?
Before you start throwing around these concepts of "Englishness" you should try defining what that actually means.
Scotland managers do have a habit of falling out with forwards, Ally McCoist didn't go to France 98, and Duncan Ferguson only amassed a total of 7 Scotland caps. England fans, you don't realise what talent you are blessed with!
I can see Steve Clarke go for Dykes as his first choice striker against Brazil, Shankland more likely to play vs Haiti. Qualification for knockouts will likely depend if they can beat Haiti first game
Englishness is an idea not a bloodline or a colour.
Danny (Dennis) Citrinowicz ,داني سيترينوفيتش
@citrinowicz
It’s hard to overstate how deeply Netanyahu views this moment as a possible personal and political defeat. A U.S.–Iran agreement under Trump would be a major blow to him mainly diplomatically, but above all politically.
https://x.com/citrinowicz/status/2058293767783043080
Three senior Iranian officials said Iran had agreed to a memorandum of understanding that would stop the fighting and reopen the Strait of Hormuz.
They said the agreement would halt fighting on all fronts, including in Lebanon.
Iran media disputes Trump’s claim Hormuz Strait to reopen
Trump’s claim that the Strait of Hormuz will fully reopen as part of a peace agreement with Tehran is “far from reality”, Iran’s semi-official Fars news agency reports.
“Based on the latest exchanged text, if a possible agreement is reached, the Strait of Hormuz will still be under Iran’s management,” it said.
“Although Iran has agreed to allow the number of passing ships to return to the level before the war, this does not at all mean ‘free passage’ to the pre-war situation.
“The management of the strait, determining the route, time, manner of passage, and issuing permits, will remain exclusively under the control and discretion of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Therefore, Trump’s claim in this regard is incomplete and does not correspond to reality.”
Removing Netanyahu from power in Israel is a prerequisite for any chance of a permanent solution.
So is removing Hamas from power in Gaza, but that's much harder so one step at a time.
Trump faces the mid terms.
His supporters don't do detail.
I think of my black friends from school and after who are more “British” in most ways than a lot of Brits.
So I don’t care what colour or religion someone is who wants to live that “culture” I think they are arseholes. There are millions of people of all colours and religions who live in a quasi British/English idea of culture and that’s great, but I find it hard to accept people who want to live in Britain who have such an alien concept of life and then get angry when their way of life is criticised.
Does this make me racist or just human in wanting to live alongside people who want a roughly similar outlook and life to me.
Maybe I’m just a terrible person. Who knows (I am a terrible person for many reasons).
Danny (Dennis) Citrinowicz ,داني سيترينوفيتش
@citrinowicz
Absolutely. But it is important to acknowledge that as the war fades further into the background and as the United States turns its attention toward the World Cup, the celebrations marking America’s 250th anniversary, and the approaching midterm elections, the emerging agreement, even if it will falls short of a comprehensive agreement between Washington and Tehran, significantly reduces the likelihood of the United States returning to war with Iran anytime soon.
Got to be honest... this isn't a brilliant poll for Labour, if they are reliant on Restore trying to get over the line. It's like the frog relying on the scorpion.
Mind you, the Tories being on 2% is absolutely pathetic. Nice one Kemi.
Iranian foreign ministry spokesman Esmaeil Baqaei, offered what appeared to be an indirect response on X to President Trump’s annoucement that the two sides were close to a peace deal. The post referred to a third-century war between the Roman empire and Persia, in which the Roman emperor “had to come to terms” with the Persians. The post appeared to be the only public statement from a senior Iranian official since Trump’s announcement, and it did not mention Trump, a deal, or Iran’s nuclear program by name.
...where they lost every seat they were defending in several local authority areas.
There's a lot of 'R's in the system at the moment.
The former foreign secretary said the Labour government had been so unpopular because “there hasn’t been enough change – that’s the simple reason”."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/05/23/david-miliband-starmer-hay-labour-leadership/
There were reports that in the locals where parties fielded more than one candidate that the one higher up the ballot paper usually got more votes.
So some people intending to vote Restore may vote Reform by accident. Or they may simply not notice the Restore candidate on the ballot paper.
Breakfast Clubs is the high point tells you everything.
It’s like if you have been single for a long time women who are a bit questionable seem alluring because there is nothing else. He’s Katie Price to an Incel.
Which is incredible. A theocratic dictatorship is a more reliable source of news than the President of the United States.
"The security of our country is intrinsically linked with pride and patriotism, but the sight of our borders undermined and invaded by small boats carrying people expecting to be housed at taxpayers’ expense has eroded confidence and trust.
I welcome that Shabana Mahmood, the Home Secretary, has vowed that she will do “whatever it takes” to tackle illegal immigration, but we can end the trade of the smuggling gangs and the small boats by processing asylum claims at the nearest point of safety.
Making it illegal to claim asylum by small-boat arrival, with a claim only considered if it has been submitted at a designated centre in the Middle East or the Horn of Africa, will bring an immediate end to the number of people trailing across continents to the French coast." (£)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2026/05/11/mp-jo-white-opinion-how-starmer-government-lost-touch
The provincial premier, Danielle Smith, recently announced that Alberta will hold a referendum to determine its future in Canada. The question to be asked will be: “Should Alberta remain a province of Canada or should the government of Alberta commence the legal process required under the Canadian constitution to hold a binding provincial referendum on whether or not Alberta should separate from Canada?”"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/05/23/is-canada-about-to-break-apart