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  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,887

    Bong.

    Its a terrible night for....

    Bong.

    Its a terrible night for....
    The taxpayer. As always.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,763

    Talking heads assemble. It is time for party spin operations to commence

    If it wasn't for my contract of employment, I'd be a talking head tonight.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 40,603

    Bong.

    Its a terrible night for....
    ...Labour
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,376

    Starmer plans to reboot his leadership by dropping the technocratic tone and delivering at pace on his plan for change.

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/2052462130406814203

    Starmer's plan to pick Labour back up after the elections:
    *pivot from 'hero voters' to 'progressive block'
    *more action on defence and environment
    *drop the technocratic tone

    The technocratic tone is currently intentional?!
    Saying 'significant military capabilities' in the same tone as 'cheese and pickle sandwich' was strategy
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 25,016

    Starmer plans to reboot his leadership by dropping the technocratic tone and delivering at pace on his plan for change.

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/2052462130406814203

    Starmer's plan to pick Labour back up after the elections:
    *pivot from 'hero voters' to 'progressive block'
    *more action on defence and environment
    *drop the technocratic tone

    Just a note on "hero voters". This is the name for the voters who didn't vote Labour after 2005 and before 2024. Labour's vote share in 2024 only went up by 1.6pp, while the "progressive block" who voted for Labour in 2019 comprise 32.1pp.

    It was always daft for Labour to concentrate on voters they had failed to attract in 2024.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 5,005
    kle4 said:

    I knew there was something I forgot to do today.

    Try again tomorrow.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332

    Starmer plans to reboot his leadership by dropping the technocratic tone and delivering at pace on his plan for change.

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/2052462130406814203

    Starmer's plan to pick Labour back up after the elections:
    *pivot from 'hero voters' to 'progressive block'
    *more action on defence and environment
    *drop the technocratic tone

    More reboots than the number of wars Trump has ended.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332

    Starmer plans to reboot his leadership by dropping the technocratic tone and delivering at pace on his plan for change.

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/2052462130406814203

    Starmer's plan to pick Labour back up after the elections:
    *pivot from 'hero voters' to 'progressive block'
    *more action on defence and environment
    *drop the technocratic tone

    More reboots than the number of wars Trump has ended.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,602
    Scott_xP said:

    @kateferguson4

    Ed Miliband has told Keir Starmer to plan his resignation, according to reports.

    But will he actually wield the knife post locals?

    @kateferguson4

    Team Ed responds!

    Ed spokesperson: "We do not comment on private conversations but we do not accept this account.

    “Ed has always supported the Prime Minister and continues to do so as he delivers on his mandate for change."

    He supports the Prime Minister in the event he decides, voluntarily, to stand down as well.

    Whilst I do not hold it against him, Ed M running against his brother does mean he cannot really complain about a reputation for being ruthless in pursue his own power (directly or through othersd).
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,376

    Talking heads assemble. It is time for party spin operations to commence

    If it wasn't for my contract of employment, I'd be a talking head tonight.
    Thank God for contractual limitations
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,423
    Foss said:

    Starmer plans to reboot his leadership by dropping the technocratic tone and delivering at pace on his plan for change.

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/2052462130406814203

    Starmer's plan to pick Labour back up after the elections:
    *pivot from 'hero voters' to 'progressive block'
    *more action on defence and environment
    *drop the technocratic tone

    The reboot singularity approaches.
    Ahem

    image
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,887

    Starmer plans to reboot his leadership by dropping the technocratic tone and delivering at pace on his plan for change.

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/2052462130406814203

    Starmer's plan to pick Labour back up after the elections:
    *pivot from 'hero voters' to 'progressive block'
    *more action on defence and environment
    *drop the technocratic tone

    More reboots than the number of wars Trump has ended.
    More reboots than a ZX81 trying to load Manic Miner?
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,354

    Picture caption time.


    “To infinity and beyond!”
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 51,526
    That wasn't a private meeting then, was it.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,423

    It is done

    He's just resting.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 8,317

    Bong.

    Its a terrible night for....
    A terrrrrrrible night for Starrrrrrmer.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,763

    Talking heads assemble. It is time for party spin operations to commence

    If it wasn't for my contract of employment, I'd be a talking head tonight.
    Thank God for contractual limitations
    I would introduce the world to the concept of Stepmoms though.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,763
    Labour deputy leader Lucy Powell all but admitting a difficult night ahead

    She says: "These elections are tough and took place in a difficult context."

    She says Labour just at the start of a journey to make sure whole of the UK "firing on all cylinders"


    https://x.com/ryansabey/status/2052495710617039266
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,423
    kinabalu said:

    That wasn't a private meeting then, was it.

    It was a private meeting. Not a Private Meeting. A private meeting might neither be private, or indeed, a meeting.

    No papers on the matter have crossed any desks.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,914

    kle4 said:

    I knew there was something I forgot to do today.

    Try again tomorrow.
    One vote can't make a difference...
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,703
    @kylegriffin1.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING MS NOW:

    Kash Patel has ordered the polygraphing of more than two dozen former and current members of his security detail and other staff and has been described as in panic mode to save his job and find leakers among his team, according to two people briefed on the development.

    https://bsky.app/profile/kylegriffin1.bsky.social/post/3mlc4lxzmec2y
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332

    Labour deputy leader Lucy Powell all but admitting a difficult night ahead

    She says: "These elections are tough and took place in a difficult context."

    She says Labour just at the start of a journey to make sure whole of the UK "firing on all cylinders"


    https://x.com/ryansabey/status/2052495710617039266

    So what she is saying Labour have been more shafted than Bonnie Blue on freshers week?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,423

    Labour deputy leader Lucy Powell all but admitting a difficult night ahead

    She says: "These elections are tough and took place in a difficult context."

    She says Labour just at the start of a journey to make sure whole of the UK "firing on all cylinders"


    https://x.com/ryansabey/status/2052495710617039266

    The first cylinder will fire Starmer into space?
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,887

    Labour deputy leader Lucy Powell all but admitting a difficult night ahead

    She says: "These elections are tough and took place in a difficult context."

    She says Labour just at the start of a journey to make sure whole of the UK "firing on all cylinders"


    https://x.com/ryansabey/status/2052495710617039266

    Shouldn’t you ensure you’re firing on all cylinders before going on a journey?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,423
    CatMan said:

    kle4 said:

    I knew there was something I forgot to do today.

    Try again tomorrow.
    One vote can't make a difference...
    Vote for the Malmesbury UnDictatorship. Never have to vote agin, it's so good!

    One Man, One Vote
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,423

    Labour deputy leader Lucy Powell all but admitting a difficult night ahead

    She says: "These elections are tough and took place in a difficult context."

    She says Labour just at the start of a journey to make sure whole of the UK "firing on all cylinders"


    https://x.com/ryansabey/status/2052495710617039266

    So what she is saying Labour have been more shafted than Bonnie Blue on freshers week?
    More like a secondary parent working in self employed retail social entertainment at a nautically adjacent cargo facility.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,914
    Scott_xP said:

    @kylegriffin1.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING MS NOW:

    Kash Patel has ordered the polygraphing of more than two dozen former and current members of his security detail and other staff and has been described as in panic mode to save his job and find leakers among his team, according to two people briefed on the development.

    https://bsky.app/profile/kylegriffin1.bsky.social/post/3mlc4lxzmec2y

    Why? Trump isn't going to fire him for anything as silly as gross incompetence.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,703
    @kitty_donaldson

    Labour sources on the ground in the North East of England suggesting Sunderland City Council goes to Reform, Newcastle-upon-Tyne may be held as a minority by Labour.

    Caveat: vibes only, not based on votes.

    Welsh Labour sources also acknowledging a likely loss of the Senedd, based on local discussions.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,703
    @bbclaurak

    From colleagues in
    @BBCWales
    , multiple Labour sources say they expect to lose the Senedd - former Welsh government minister, Mick Antoniw, told BBC Wales that if the results were “as bad as predicted” then Keir Starmer should stand down as Prime Minister
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,703
    @fintwitter.bsky.social‬

    US TRADE COURT RULES AGAINST TRUMP'S 10% GLOBAL TARIFF
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 5,005

    CatMan said:

    kle4 said:

    I knew there was something I forgot to do today.

    Try again tomorrow.
    One vote can't make a difference...
    Vote for the Malmesbury UnDictatorship. Never have to vote agin, it's so good!

    One Man, One Vote
    Certainly will save YouGov some money in the samples.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 847
    Turnout in my local polling station was 50% at the close. Assume that's not counting anyone eligible for postals. Usually will be slightly higher than the average as its a rural polling booth
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,703
    CatMan said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @kylegriffin1.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING MS NOW:

    Kash Patel has ordered the polygraphing of more than two dozen former and current members of his security detail and other staff and has been described as in panic mode to save his job and find leakers among his team, according to two people briefed on the development.

    https://bsky.app/profile/kylegriffin1.bsky.social/post/3mlc4lxzmec2y

    Why? Trump isn't going to fire him for anything as silly as gross incompetence.
    He will if he thinks having an incompetent drunk in charge of the FBI makes him look bad
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,796

    Labour deputy leader Lucy Powell all but admitting a difficult night ahead

    She says: "These elections are tough and took place in a difficult context."

    She says Labour just at the start of a journey to make sure whole of the UK "firing on all cylinders"


    https://x.com/ryansabey/status/2052495710617039266

    So what she is saying Labour have been more shafted than Bonnie Blue on freshers week?
    Just at the start of the journey? They've had two years!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,314

    Labour deputy leader Lucy Powell all but admitting a difficult night ahead

    She says: "These elections are tough and took place in a difficult context."

    She says Labour just at the start of a journey to make sure whole of the UK "firing on all cylinders"


    https://x.com/ryansabey/status/2052495710617039266

    Translation: "It's time for the Manchester Mafia to take over."
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,423

    Labour deputy leader Lucy Powell all but admitting a difficult night ahead

    She says: "These elections are tough and took place in a difficult context."

    She says Labour just at the start of a journey to make sure whole of the UK "firing on all cylinders"


    https://x.com/ryansabey/status/2052495710617039266

    Shouldn’t you ensure you’re firing on all cylinders before going on a journey?
    This is why you need a Deltic...

    Now let us pray.

    Our Penwarden, who art in heaven,
    hallowed be thy name;
    thy kingdom come;
    thy crankshaft sequence be done;
    In Preston as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our daily cylinder cycle.
    And forgive us our trespasses,
    as we forgive those who trespass against us.
    And lead us not to 4 stroke engine cycles;
    but deliver us from evil.
    For thine is the prime mover,
    the power and the glory,
    for ever and ever.
    Amen.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 51,526
    I'm slightly concerned about what "dropping the technocratic tone" means. I don't want to see him bopping around or talking cockney or anything like that. He's a serious white collar professional and shouldn't pretend otherwise. If the country wants something different it will have to be supplied by somebody else.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,423
    kinabalu said:

    I'm slightly concerned about what "dropping the technocratic tone" means. I don't want to see him bopping around or talking cockney or anything like that. He's a serious white collar professional and shouldn't pretend otherwise. If the country wants something different it will have to be supplied by somebody else.

    Also, what technology does this "technocrat" know about?
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,413

    Bong.

    Its a terrible night for....

    Bong.

    Its a terrible night for....
    The taxpayer. As always.
    ratepayer?
    at a guess, library and leisure centre users, vulnerable road users, any group relying on local authority funding that isn't statutorily determined...
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,887
    Cookie said:

    Labour deputy leader Lucy Powell all but admitting a difficult night ahead

    She says: "These elections are tough and took place in a difficult context."

    She says Labour just at the start of a journey to make sure whole of the UK "firing on all cylinders"


    https://x.com/ryansabey/status/2052495710617039266

    So what she is saying Labour have been more shafted than Bonnie Blue on freshers week?
    Just at the start of the journey? They've had two years!
    Christ. Only two years? Is it only two?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,789
    Is anyone counting votes tonight or should I just go to bed?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,915

    Picture caption time.


    If you can get them by the balls, the hearts and minds will follow.

    If
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    Drinks with a stalwart Labour friend. As anti Starmer as I’ve ever seen him. “He must go. Today if possible!”

    Says wife feels the same, and, interestingly, wife is quite deeply involved in Camden labour

    Starmer has lost his back yard
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,929
    edited May 7
    Scott_xP said:

    @kitty_donaldson

    Labour sources on the ground in the North East of England suggesting Sunderland City Council goes to Reform, Newcastle-upon-Tyne may be held as a minority by Labour.

    Caveat: vibes only, not based on votes.

    Welsh Labour sources also acknowledging a likely loss of the Senedd, based on local discussions.

    Newcastle already was minority Labour.

    Edit: Oh I see. Held as. Well that suggests largest Party.
    Which would be a major turnup tbh.

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,526

    CatMan said:

    kle4 said:

    I knew there was something I forgot to do today.

    Try again tomorrow.
    One vote can't make a difference...
    Vote for the Malmesbury UnDictatorship. Never have to vote agin, it's so good!

    One Man, One Vote
    One Vision!
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 51,526
    Scott_xP said:

    CatMan said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @kylegriffin1.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING MS NOW:

    Kash Patel has ordered the polygraphing of more than two dozen former and current members of his security detail and other staff and has been described as in panic mode to save his job and find leakers among his team, according to two people briefed on the development.

    https://bsky.app/profile/kylegriffin1.bsky.social/post/3mlc4lxzmec2y

    Why? Trump isn't going to fire him for anything as silly as gross incompetence.
    He will if he thinks having an incompetent drunk in charge of the FBI makes him look bad
    Falling below Donald Trump's standards is a staggering achievement.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 22,166

    Is anyone counting votes tonight or should I just go to bed?

    Quite a few in England, though Scotland and Wales and a lot of England only tomorrow.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,686
    kinabalu said:

    I'm slightly concerned about what "dropping the technocratic tone" means. I don't want to see him bopping around or talking cockney or anything like that. He's a serious white collar professional and shouldn't pretend otherwise. If the country wants something different it will have to be supplied by somebody else.

    Wasn't a serious technocrat when he was a young lawyer and wanting to abolish the monarchy and taking on progressive cases (cab rank my arse). Maybe he can remember what it feels like...
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,686

    kinabalu said:

    I'm slightly concerned about what "dropping the technocratic tone" means. I don't want to see him bopping around or talking cockney or anything like that. He's a serious white collar professional and shouldn't pretend otherwise. If the country wants something different it will have to be supplied by somebody else.

    Also, what technology does this "technocrat" know about?
    Technicalities.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,915

    Talking heads assemble. It is time for party spin operations to commence

    If it wasn't for my contract of employment, I'd be a talking head tonight.
    Better thinking, than talking.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,376
    edited May 7
    Scott_xP said:

    @bbclaurak

    From colleagues in
    @BBCWales
    , multiple Labour sources say they expect to lose the Senedd - former Welsh government minister, Mick Antoniw, told BBC Wales that if the results were “as bad as predicted” then Keir Starmer should stand down as Prime Minister

    Another beeb journo reporting on X West Wales said to be 'brutal' for Lab and Morgan at serious risk of losing her seat
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,311

    Starmer plans to reboot his leadership by dropping the technocratic tone and delivering at pace on his plan for change.

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/2052462130406814203

    Starmer's plan to pick Labour back up after the elections:
    *pivot from 'hero voters' to 'progressive block'
    *more action on defence and environment
    *drop the technocratic tone

    More reboots than the number of wars Trump has ended.
    More reboots than a ZX81 trying to load Manic Miner?
    Ah, if only. Manic Miner was never officially available for the ZX81, although apparently there was an unofficial Czech port of the first few levels. 3D Monster Maze is where it's at.
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,623
    Starmer must resign.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 5,005

    Is anyone counting votes tonight or should I just go to bed?

    We're only counting Malmesbury's vote, so it'll all be over soon.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,929

    Is anyone counting votes tonight or should I just go to bed?

    Yes. But by far the bulk will be tomorrow.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,314
    edited May 7
    Lucy Powell says Starmer is the first to admit when he's made mistakes and goes on to give a list of his mistakes.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 25,016
    kinabalu said:

    That wasn't a private meeting then, was it.

    A secret is something you have told no-one about.

    By definition, therefore, no meeting can ever be private, if we take private as a synonym for secret.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,296
    Good evening PB!

    Popcorn on standby! :D
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,623
    Burnham has pulled out of a speech.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 25,828

    Is anyone counting votes tonight or should I just go to bed?

    Yes and yes.

    Around a third of councils doing it tonight.

    The best organised don't finish until Saturday.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,789
    DoctorG said:

    Turnout in my local polling station was 50% at the close. Assume that's not counting anyone eligible for postals. Usually will be slightly higher than the average as its a rural polling booth

    I'm guessing you are Scotland/Wales? I can't see 50-60% in a local.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 92,332

    Lucy Powell says Starmer is the first to admit when he's made mistakes and went on to give a list of his mistakes.

    Its as if Starmer and Powell don't get on....
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,423
    edited May 7

    Starmer plans to reboot his leadership by dropping the technocratic tone and delivering at pace on his plan for change.

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/2052462130406814203

    Starmer's plan to pick Labour back up after the elections:
    *pivot from 'hero voters' to 'progressive block'
    *more action on defence and environment
    *drop the technocratic tone

    The technocratic tone is currently intentional?!
    Saying 'significant military capabilities' in the same tone as 'cheese and pickle sandwich' was strategy
    I fed that to an AI and got this


  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,887

    Burnham has pulled out of a speech.

    Where do speeches come from?
  • stodgestodge Posts: 16,855
    I've no knowledge beyond anecdotal and local so could be very wrong but on what I saw today I expect Mehmood Mirza to win the Mayoral vote in Newham tonight and his party, the Newham Independents to take the Borough tomorrow.

    It's quite possible Labour could lose 40 seats in the Borough to the NIP and the Greens which would be devastating.

    Again, bucketfuls of salt required.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 51,526
    carnforth said:

    kinabalu said:

    I'm slightly concerned about what "dropping the technocratic tone" means. I don't want to see him bopping around or talking cockney or anything like that. He's a serious white collar professional and shouldn't pretend otherwise. If the country wants something different it will have to be supplied by somebody else.

    Wasn't a serious technocrat when he was a young lawyer and wanting to abolish the monarchy and taking on progressive cases (cab rank my arse). Maybe he can remember what it feels like...
    But we're talking about his 'tone'.
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,354
    Cookie said:

    CatMan said:

    I am a Forest fan for the night.

    Please don’t make Prince William happy tonight.

    I'm not a royalist, but isn't it a bit weird for a member of the royal family to support a specific club football team?
    Yup.

    This picture is why I love Prince Harry and hate Prince William, this is their reaction when Wales beat England at the rugby.

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/106/750x445/1196063.jpg
    Well he is the Prince of Wales. It would be odd for him not to support Wales.
    And who will the Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Baron of Renfrew, Lord of the Isles support if Villa play a Scottish team?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,296
    How did it all go so wrong so quickly?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 51,526

    kinabalu said:

    That wasn't a private meeting then, was it.

    A secret is something you have told no-one about.

    By definition, therefore, no meeting can ever be private, if we take private as a synonym for secret.
    Just the two of them and the Times.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,271

    Keiran Pedley
    @keiranpedley
    There’s so much going on tonight / this weekend but some thoughts

    1/ This is likely to be a v good night for Reform. Lots is made of ‘peak Reform’ as their support has fallen lately. But 25% is still 25% higher than they were 4 years ago (zero). Earthquake coming.

    ...

    beware definitive takes at 4am. It’ll be too early.

    https://x.com/keiranpedley/status/2052495598218072088
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,533
    edited May 7
    I don’t get the visceral hatred of Starmer .

    Even before the general election he seemed to drive people to distraction.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,423
    edited May 7
    Nigelb said:

    Talking heads assemble. It is time for party spin operations to commence

    If it wasn't for my contract of employment, I'd be a talking head tonight.
    Better thinking, than talking.
    "When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk." - Tuco
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 7,218
    edited May 7
    GIN1138 said:

    How did it all go so wrong so quickly?

    My minion didn’t use the right flour.

    Oh, sorry, you meant nationally…
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,423
    biggles said:

    GIN1138 said:

    How did it all go so wrong so quickly?

    My minion didn’t use the rights flour.

    Oh, sorry, you meant nationally…
    Wrong banana, if it was a minion, Shirley?
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,887
    nico67 said:

    I don’t get the visceral hatred of Starmer .

    Even before the general election he seemed to drive people to distraction.

    Because he is and always has been a gimp.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,296
    biggles said:

    GIN1138 said:

    How did it all go so wrong so quickly?

    My minion didn’t use the rights flour.

    Oh, sorry, you meant nationally…
    LOL! 😂
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,526

    Starmer plans to reboot his leadership by dropping the technocratic tone and delivering at pace on his plan for change.

    https://x.com/HugoGye/status/2052462130406814203

    Starmer's plan to pick Labour back up after the elections:
    *pivot from 'hero voters' to 'progressive block'
    *more action on defence and environment
    *drop the technocratic tone

    The technocratic tone is currently intentional?!
    Saying 'significant military capabilities' in the same tone as 'cheese and pickle sandwich' was strategy
    I fed that to an AI and got this


    "I have made a peaceful and legitimate request for a cheese and pickle sandwich!"
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,623
    Ed M has a better sense than I thought. He was absolutely right to call for Sir Keir to set a timetable to go.

    You cannot come back from these approval ratings.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,314
    https://x.com/SamCoatesSky/status/2052498109536628847

    Emotions in Labour are running [high]. One MP said they "feel sick" and added they "can see why this is a moment of peril in a way I didn't hours ago. It's the collective grief and agony that could absolutely take him out."
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,296
    nico67 said:

    I don’t get the visceral hatred of Starmer .

    Even before the general election he seemed to drive people to distraction.

    I think it's the hypocrisy more than anything...
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 129,763
    @Malmesbury

    You're doing it again, one photo a day, if the photos shrink again, it'll be on you.
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,354

    Labour deputy leader Lucy Powell all but admitting a difficult night ahead

    She says: "These elections are tough and took place in a difficult context."

    She says Labour just at the start of a journey to make sure whole of the UK "firing on all cylinders"


    https://x.com/ryansabey/status/2052495710617039266

    The first cylinder will fire Starmer into space?
    Depends on who hands him the loaded revolver.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,526

    @Malmesbury

    You're doing it again, one photo a day, if the photos shrink again, it'll be on you.

    How about one photo per thread? Is that doable?
  • MilesPartridgeMilesPartridge Posts: 89
    Anyone have any last minute predictions for seat numbers?

    For interest ChatGPT predicts the following

    Party Central Prediction
    Reform UK 1,750 seats
    Labour 1,050 seats
    Liberal Democrats 1,050 seats
    Conservatives 750 seats
    Greens 700 seats
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 25,016

    https://x.com/SamCoatesSky/status/2052498109536628847

    Emotions in Labour are running [high]. One MP said they "feel sick" and added they "can see why this is a moment of peril in a way I didn't hours ago. It's the collective grief and agony that could absolutely take him out."

    One unnamed MP.

    Unless the Cabinet unanimously confront Starmer and tell him his time is up MPs will have to be bold enough to put their name to opposition to Starmer to get him to go.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,686
    kinabalu said:

    carnforth said:

    kinabalu said:

    I'm slightly concerned about what "dropping the technocratic tone" means. I don't want to see him bopping around or talking cockney or anything like that. He's a serious white collar professional and shouldn't pretend otherwise. If the country wants something different it will have to be supplied by somebody else.

    Wasn't a serious technocrat when he was a young lawyer and wanting to abolish the monarchy and taking on progressive cases (cab rank my arse). Maybe he can remember what it feels like...
    But we're talking about his 'tone'.
    Fair point. Maybe he was a monotone twerp even when he was progressive.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,602
    Scott_xP said:

    @kylegriffin1.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING MS NOW:

    Kash Patel has ordered the polygraphing of more than two dozen former and current members of his security detail and other staff and has been described as in panic mode to save his job and find leakers among his team, according to two people briefed on the development.

    https://bsky.app/profile/kylegriffin1.bsky.social/post/3mlc4lxzmec2y

    Aren't polygraphs bullshit if people are practiced, calm, liars?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,602
    nico67 said:

    I don’t get the visceral hatred of Starmer .

    Even before the general election he seemed to drive people to distraction.

    He's been a disappointment, but the immediacy and severity of the dislike without any honeymoon has been a shock.
  • TresTres Posts: 3,788
    Scott_xP said:

    @kylegriffin1.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING MS NOW:

    Kash Patel has ordered the polygraphing of more than two dozen former and current members of his security detail and other staff and has been described as in panic mode to save his job and find leakers among his team, according to two people briefed on the development.

    https://bsky.app/profile/kylegriffin1.bsky.social/post/3mlc4lxzmec2y

    is he so dumb he doesn't realise polygraphs are just a plot device for movies/books
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,271
    Ava-Santina

    @AvaSantina
    ·
    39m
    Hearing of chaos in Wes Streeting’s back garden Redbridge, where voters were forced to wait in big queues.

    Lawyers have written to council demanding anyone in queue pre-10pm must be let in.

    (Post 10pm!): Independents accuse Returning Officer of failing to deploy enough staff.

    https://x.com/AvaSantina/status/2052493682931089431
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,927
    sarissa said:

    Cookie said:

    CatMan said:

    I am a Forest fan for the night.

    Please don’t make Prince William happy tonight.

    I'm not a royalist, but isn't it a bit weird for a member of the royal family to support a specific club football team?
    Yup.

    This picture is why I love Prince Harry and hate Prince William, this is their reaction when Wales beat England at the rugby.

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/106/750x445/1196063.jpg
    Well he is the Prince of Wales. It would be odd for him not to support Wales.
    And who will the Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Baron of Renfrew, Lord of the Isles support if Villa play a Scottish team?
    The dentist?
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,623
    Burnham should just lance the boil and challenge Starmer tomorrow.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,423
    edited May 7
    kle4 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @kylegriffin1.bsky.social‬

    BREAKING MS NOW:

    Kash Patel has ordered the polygraphing of more than two dozen former and current members of his security detail and other staff and has been described as in panic mode to save his job and find leakers among his team, according to two people briefed on the development.

    https://bsky.app/profile/kylegriffin1.bsky.social/post/3mlc4lxzmec2y

    Aren't polygraphs bullshit if people are practiced, calm, liars?
    Polygraphs are bullshit.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 23,296

    Burnham should just lance the boil and challenge Starmer tomorrow.

    He isn't an MP?
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,623
    One thing I am very sure about is that Labour must not go left. The fact Starmer suggests this is the solution shows just how utterly useless he is.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,887

    Burnham should just lance the boil and challenge Starmer tomorrow.

    Burnham should just lance the boil and challenge Starmer tomorrow.

    If you think Burnham is the answer you clearly don’t know what the question is.
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,623
    GIN1138 said:

    Burnham should just lance the boil and challenge Starmer tomorrow.

    He isn't an MP?
    Yeah but he can still make a statement and call for him to quit.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 9,136

    https://x.com/SamCoatesSky/status/2052498109536628847

    Emotions in Labour are running [high]. One MP said they "feel sick" and added they "can see why this is a moment of peril in a way I didn't hours ago. It's the collective grief and agony that could absolutely take him out."

    Collective grief and agony won’t launch leadership contests. Someone needs to challenge him, or the cabinet need to tell him to go, if he’s actually going to leave.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 64,423

    https://x.com/SamCoatesSky/status/2052498109536628847

    Emotions in Labour are running [high]. One MP said they "feel sick" and added they "can see why this is a moment of peril in a way I didn't hours ago. It's the collective grief and agony that could absolutely take him out."

    Something I see so many times.

    Despite things being obvious and foreseeable, far ahead, many, many people only "discover" them when the events smack them in the face.

    See the slow motion disaster over Hormuz. Comment on it, and you will get numbers of people denying it is happening, will be that bad etc.
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