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  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 51,558

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Last minute SNP to Labour swing in Holyrood elections from More In Common

    Both list and seat

    https://x.com/polliticsuk/status/2052027072923525295?s=61

    Still think a Labour recovery under Burnham or Streeting is very likely.
    Initially, probably, but longer term depending on the policies and what happens, who knows,

    Our borrowing costs need to be considered and Burnhams ‘fuck the Bond markets’ attitude doesn’t help.
    Initially is enough for a winning bet from Labour poll lead
    Did you find that bet? Labour poll lead this year.
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,623
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Taz said:

    Last minute SNP to Labour swing in Holyrood elections from More In Common

    Both list and seat

    https://x.com/polliticsuk/status/2052027072923525295?s=61

    Still think a Labour recovery under Burnham or Streeting is very likely.
    If Labour are second tomorrow on seats and NEV GB wide and come second on the Holyrood constituency vote as MiC now forecasts and helps deprive the SNP of a majority at Holyrood then SKS is staying put anyway
    He's not HYUFD. The game is over.
    Nope, if Labour is second tomorrow and beat the Tories, Greens and LDs No 10 will spin that as a triumph far exceeding expectations even if Reform win as expected and Starmer survives another year. Especially given Labour MPs are hopeless at removing leaders normally
    I respect you but your knowledge on Labour affairs is extremely poor when it comes to this kind of thing.

    I can be persuaded he survives another year but that's after setting out the date he quits. He's not just going to go on without some kind of "I will quit" message.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,930
    edited May 6
    viewcode said:

    Foss said:

    Nigelb said:

    It's not all killer robots.

    Buddhist sect welcomes humanoid robot Gabi with precept ceremony

    https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/society/20260506/buddhist-sect-welcomes-humanoid-robot-gabi-with-precept-ceremony
    Under a roof of paper lanterns strung across Jogye Temple in downtown Seoul, a group of monks from the Jogye Order, Korea's largest Buddhist sect, sat across from a postulant awaiting a precept ceremony — except that postulant was the country's first humanoid robot to take part in the ritual.

    Clad in humble black shoes and the Buddhist order's ceremonial gray and brown robe, the 1.3-meter-tall robot stood in front of Buddhist monks and nuns as it pledged to commit itself to Buddhism in the ceremony held Wednesday, ahead of Buddha's Birthday later this month.

    The robot folded its hands together and bowed to the monks officiating the ceremony, as one of the monks carefully hung a 108-bead rosary and attached a sticker instead of the original ritual where one has to slightly burn his arms near an incense stick.

    Will you devote yourself to the holy Buddha?" one of the monks asked.

    "Yes, I will devote myself," the robot replied in an audible voice.

    "Will you devote yourself to the holy teaching?" the monk asked.

    "Yes, I will devote myself," the robot answered.

    The monk then laid out five precepts, or common vows, for a Buddhist to live by that were altered for the robot.

    They included respecting life and not hurting it, not damaging other robots and objects, following humans and not talking back to them, not behaving or speaking in a deceptive manner, and saving energy and not overcharging...

    Please tell me they’re not planning on having it write out all the possible names of God…?
    overhead, without any fuss, the stars were going out...
    Never really understood this story.
    Why would Tibetan monks believe God would end the world if they wrote out names?
    They don't believe in God.

    Edit. They firmly and devoutly believe in the non-existence of an omnipotent Deity.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,632
    edited May 6

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Taz said:

    Last minute SNP to Labour swing in Holyrood elections from More In Common

    Both list and seat

    https://x.com/polliticsuk/status/2052027072923525295?s=61

    Still think a Labour recovery under Burnham or Streeting is very likely.
    If Labour are second tomorrow on seats and NEV GB wide and come second on the Holyrood constituency vote as MiC now forecasts and helps deprive the SNP of a majority at Holyrood then SKS is staying put anyway
    He's not HYUFD. The game is over.
    Nope, if Labour is second tomorrow and beat the Tories, Greens and LDs No 10 will spin that as a triumph far exceeding expectations even if Reform win as expected and Starmer survives another year. Especially given Labour MPs are hopeless at removing leaders normally
    I respect you but your knowledge on Labour affairs is extremely poor when it comes to this kind of thing.

    I can be persuaded he survives another year but that's after setting out the date he quits. He's not just going to go on without some kind of "I will quit" message.
    He is, if Labour are second on Friday Starmer can easily spin it as a choice between him and Farage going forward and Labour MPs will rally round that, especially given Labour will have still beaten the Tories and Greens
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,604

    https://x.com/Telegraph/status/2052051935776198700

    Reform UK are battling to win the East of England, a traditional Conservative heartland, in the upcoming local elections.

    The Telegraph's Political Editor, @Tony_Diver was given access to a day on the campaign trail with Robert Jenrick, travelling across Norfolk, Suffolk and Essex.

    Can the former Conservative MP help turn one of the bluest areas in England teal?

    What exactly is "raising kids in the British way"? I promise I am not being obtuse here but I didn't really understand what she meant. Are kids raised in the UK very different to kids raised in say Italy or Spain?

    Raising kids the British way will be a bit difficult when 40% of live births were by mothers who were born outside the UK. Are they suggesting that prenatal classes should have cultural elements too. Or are they just being racist?

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/datasets/parentscountryofbirth
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,623
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Taz said:

    Last minute SNP to Labour swing in Holyrood elections from More In Common

    Both list and seat

    https://x.com/polliticsuk/status/2052027072923525295?s=61

    Still think a Labour recovery under Burnham or Streeting is very likely.
    If Labour are second tomorrow on seats and NEV GB wide and come second on the Holyrood constituency vote as MiC now forecasts and helps deprive the SNP of a majority at Holyrood then SKS is staying put anyway
    He's not HYUFD. The game is over.
    Nope, if Labour is second tomorrow and beat the Tories, Greens and LDs No 10 will spin that as a triumph far exceeding expectations even if Reform win as expected and Starmer survives another year. Especially given Labour MPs are hopeless at removing leaders normally
    I respect you but your knowledge on Labour affairs is extremely poor when it comes to this kind of thing.

    I can be persuaded he survives another year but that's after setting out the date he quits. He's not just going to go on without some kind of "I will quit" message.
    He is, if Labour are second on Friday Starmer can easily spin it as a choice between him and Farage going forward and Labour MPs will rally round that, especially given Labour will have still beaten the Tories and Greens
    Nonsense I am afraid HYUFD.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 137,632

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Taz said:

    Last minute SNP to Labour swing in Holyrood elections from More In Common

    Both list and seat

    https://x.com/polliticsuk/status/2052027072923525295?s=61

    Still think a Labour recovery under Burnham or Streeting is very likely.
    If Labour are second tomorrow on seats and NEV GB wide and come second on the Holyrood constituency vote as MiC now forecasts and helps deprive the SNP of a majority at Holyrood then SKS is staying put anyway
    He's not HYUFD. The game is over.
    Nope, if Labour is second tomorrow and beat the Tories, Greens and LDs No 10 will spin that as a triumph far exceeding expectations even if Reform win as expected and Starmer survives another year. Especially given Labour MPs are hopeless at removing leaders normally
    I respect you but your knowledge on Labour affairs is extremely poor when it comes to this kind of thing.

    I can be persuaded he survives another year but that's after setting out the date he quits. He's not just going to go on without some kind of "I will quit" message.
    He is, if Labour are second on Friday Starmer can easily spin it as a choice between him and Farage going forward and Labour MPs will rally round that, especially given Labour will have still beaten the Tories and Greens
    Nonsense I am afraid HYUFD.
    Nope reality, Labour MPs couldn't even get rid of Corbyn when most of them nominated his opponent, if Labour are second on Friday Starmer is safe and secure for the next year until next year's locals at least
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 7,623
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Taz said:

    Last minute SNP to Labour swing in Holyrood elections from More In Common

    Both list and seat

    https://x.com/polliticsuk/status/2052027072923525295?s=61

    Still think a Labour recovery under Burnham or Streeting is very likely.
    If Labour are second tomorrow on seats and NEV GB wide and come second on the Holyrood constituency vote as MiC now forecasts and helps deprive the SNP of a majority at Holyrood then SKS is staying put anyway
    He's not HYUFD. The game is over.
    Nope, if Labour is second tomorrow and beat the Tories, Greens and LDs No 10 will spin that as a triumph far exceeding expectations even if Reform win as expected and Starmer survives another year. Especially given Labour MPs are hopeless at removing leaders normally
    I respect you but your knowledge on Labour affairs is extremely poor when it comes to this kind of thing.

    I can be persuaded he survives another year but that's after setting out the date he quits. He's not just going to go on without some kind of "I will quit" message.
    He is, if Labour are second on Friday Starmer can easily spin it as a choice between him and Farage going forward and Labour MPs will rally round that, especially given Labour will have still beaten the Tories and Greens
    Nonsense I am afraid HYUFD.
    Nope reality, Labour MPs couldn't even get rid of Corbyn when most of them nominated his opponent, if Labour are second on Friday Starmer is safe and secure for the next year until next year's locals at least
    We will see. I think you will be very wrong.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 22,166
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:

    This is a bit awkward for the Thatcherite economists.

    Britain has eight big North European neighbours.
    Of them Britain has,
    1/ The weakest economy.
    2/ The lowest taxes.
    3/ The lowest marginal tax rate on labour at high incomes.
    The right should be less confident sneering at the idea of "taxing for growth".

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2051763318222659963

    Try Switzerland, even lower taxes than the UK and higher gdp per capita than all those 8
    But it's also a disturbingly highly regulated country (outside of banking).
    Really? I lived there for 18 years, mixing with all sorts of people, and never heard that criticism, nor did I ever run into regulatory problems myself. It's quite a conformist country in many ways, but that's on the whole an advantage - it's just a more critical description of "united".
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 51,558
    edited May 6
    MelonB said:

    Battlebus said:

    rcs1000 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Nigelb said:

    This is a bit awkward for the Thatcherite economists.

    Britain has eight big North European neighbours.
    Of them Britain has,
    1/ The weakest economy.
    2/ The lowest taxes.
    3/ The lowest marginal tax rate on labour at high incomes.
    The right should be less confident sneering at the idea of "taxing for growth".

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2051763318222659963

    You regard this as a piece of analysis do you?
    It's merely a counter to the hackneyed chant of "you can't tax your way to growth".
    Growth is complicated.

    And a lot of things that were once tailwinds to growth -like falling birthrates and increased life expectancy- are now headwinds. And at the same time, we (as in the developed world) are no longer the only purchasers of raw materials; now we need to compete with China, India and a host of other rapidly developing nations. That means we're paying more for commodities at the same time that every worker is supporting more and more retirees.

    If there were easy answers, then politicians would have already implemented them.
    Doesn't stop them offering easy answers and the public believing them.
    Also doesn’t mean there aren’t some relatively easy answers out there that could help at least marginally. It’s the total transformation narrative that’s the fairytale.

    A few examples which the data tell us should work:

    - sorting out the distorted marginal tax rates and thresholds that inhibit labour market participation
    - Tilting tax and monetary policy to encourage more consumer spending, business spending, investment in riskier but higher yielding assets and discourage saving in low yield assets
    - Liberalisation of planning rules for infrastructure
    - restructuring the energy market to allow regional pricing
    - Providing fully state run (rather than subsidised) early years childcare for working parents
    - Rejoining the single market
    - Cutting corporation tax to 15%

    And so on. Aggregation of marginal gains
    Yes. Not just a fairytale, the transformation narrative is damaging. The notion that if only we elect the right people they will make things loads better in short order is one of the main drivers of populism.
  • TazTaz Posts: 29,652
    More quality reporting from the BBC here. What value the license fee truly is to bring us these gems. The sooner it’s axed the better.

    ‘ Peta objects to 'pig-demeaning' pork pie road name’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8jv8322z88o
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,419
    edited May 6

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:

    This is a bit awkward for the Thatcherite economists.

    Britain has eight big North European neighbours.
    Of them Britain has,
    1/ The weakest economy.
    2/ The lowest taxes.
    3/ The lowest marginal tax rate on labour at high incomes.
    The right should be less confident sneering at the idea of "taxing for growth".

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2051763318222659963

    Try Switzerland, even lower taxes than the UK and higher gdp per capita than all those 8
    But it's also a disturbingly highly regulated country (outside of banking).
    Really? I lived there for 18 years, mixing with all sorts of people, and never heard that criticism, nor did I ever run into regulatory problems myself. It's quite a conformist country in many ways, but that's on the whole an advantage - it's just a more critical description of "united".
    Ignoring all the rules on toilet flushing in apartment blocks.... Switzerland, Luxembourg, RoI have high GDP/capita because multinationals book their profits there, it's "empty calories". They're not big employers in those countries.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,197
    Well I’ll be voting Lib Dem tomorrow in Newcastle.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,419

    https://x.com/Telegraph/status/2052051935776198700

    Reform UK are battling to win the East of England, a traditional Conservative heartland, in the upcoming local elections.

    The Telegraph's Political Editor, @Tony_Diver was given access to a day on the campaign trail with Robert Jenrick, travelling across Norfolk, Suffolk and Essex.

    Can the former Conservative MP help turn one of the bluest areas in England teal?

    What exactly is "raising kids in the British way"? I promise I am not being obtuse here but I didn't really understand what she meant. Are kids raised in the UK very different to kids raised in say Italy or Spain?

    UK parents use baking powder instead of yeast
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 40,617

    Well I’ll be voting Lib Dem tomorrow in Newcastle.

    PC for me.
  • Jim_the_LurkerJim_the_Lurker Posts: 341
    edited May 6
    Politico’s newsletter highlighted this little gem: https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2026-05-05/a-devout-muslim-in-pakistan-is-making-a-living-from-islamophobic-ai-slop

    Even AI is taking the jobs of virulent Islamapobes and giving them to *checks notes* a devout Muslim living in Pakistan.

    For me the interesting thing is the level of people getting their news from social media sites is alarmingly high (even here a lot of obviously flawed stuff gets posted). Yet, the incentives of the websites involved and the content producers are skewed about as far from the truth as possible.

    To some extent I am sure these influencers are simply surfing the latest outrage rather than “inventing/creating” it. But ultimately they are amplifying it simply for revenue and that may solidify other people’s views or seep into the public discourse.

    A horrible mess really - and one unleashed on us by the logic of the attention economy and the various owners of these websites - but worth bearing in mind when folks want to share stuff on one of those sites or claim that “people are outraged on x,y, or z website.”
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,197

    Well I’ll be voting Lib Dem tomorrow in Newcastle.

    PC for me.
    @HYUFD will be happy
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,930

    Well I’ll be voting Lib Dem tomorrow in Newcastle.

    Likewise.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 6,420
    "We can deduce it may take 8-10 years for the Tories to be fully rehabilitated this time around."

    I think that's phony precision and too determinative by far.

    The Conservatives between 1994 and 2007 had the overwhelming problem that they were running against a once in a century political genius. Though his shine had started to rub off a bit by 2005 there was no doubt that he was still a very formidable opponent - the man Cameron and Osborne privately and cravenly referred to as the "Master".

    This time they are up against a bumbling, incompetent, uncharismatic fool and a front bench that are, amazingly, even less credible.

    I think if the Conservatives found a leader of reasonable stature who had something convincing to say in answer tothe country's problems they could be back in the running much quicker. Kemi isn't bad, but I don't think she's that person.

    So while I think she will do alright, there is scope for a much better leader to do much better, and saying that it will take 8-10 years reminds me of those who were forecasting in 2019 that the 2020s belonged entirely to the Conservatives.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,197
    dixiedean said:

    Well I’ll be voting Lib Dem tomorrow in Newcastle.

    Likewise.
    There are literally dozens of us!
  • RogerRoger Posts: 23,238
    Surely the big story is that the US Iran contratemps is over? The stock market has shot up and the Yanks are going home. I hear the reason is China! They said enough is enough and that was that. A victory for brain over brawn...

    Are the BBC ignoring it?
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 22,166
    Dopermean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:

    This is a bit awkward for the Thatcherite economists.

    Britain has eight big North European neighbours.
    Of them Britain has,
    1/ The weakest economy.
    2/ The lowest taxes.
    3/ The lowest marginal tax rate on labour at high incomes.
    The right should be less confident sneering at the idea of "taxing for growth".

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2051763318222659963

    Try Switzerland, even lower taxes than the UK and higher gdp per capita than all those 8
    But it's also a disturbingly highly regulated country (outside of banking).
    Really? I lived there for 18 years, mixing with all sorts of people, and never heard that criticism, nor did I ever run into regulatory problems myself. It's quite a conformist country in many ways, but that's on the whole an advantage - it's just a more critical description of "united".
    Ignoring all the rules on toilet flushing in apartment blocks.... Switzerland, Luxembourg, RoI have high GDP/capita because multinationals book their profits there, it's "empty calories". They're not big employers in those countries.
    I always lived in apartment blocks and never encountered a toilet issue - suspect it's folklore! I was working in Basel, and there were lots of big employers who paid well - I had a middle management IT job and when I was elected in the UK my income went down by 40% - fortunately being an MP was so interesting that it didn't really matter.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,694
    Roger said:

    Surely the big story is that the US Iran contratemps is over? The stock market has shot up and the Yanks are going home. I hear the reason is China! They said enough is enough and that was that. A victory for brain over brawn...

    Are the BBC ignoring it?

    It's the top story on BBC News website, as a live feed.

    Not that I'd blame them for ignoring it given how many false dawns there have been.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,548

    Well I’ll be voting Lib Dem tomorrow in Newcastle.

    PC for me.
    Is that you, HYUFD??
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,670
    Roger said:

    Surely the big story is that the US Iran contratemps is over? The stock market has shot up and the Yanks are going home. I hear the reason is China! They said enough is enough and that was that. A victory for brain over brawn...

    Are the BBC ignoring it?

    " the Yanks are going home"

    With their tails between their legs. And Netanyahu is 'sick as a parrot'!

    I hope.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,877
    MelonB said:

    Battlebus said:

    rcs1000 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Nigelb said:

    This is a bit awkward for the Thatcherite economists.

    Britain has eight big North European neighbours.
    Of them Britain has,
    1/ The weakest economy.
    2/ The lowest taxes.
    3/ The lowest marginal tax rate on labour at high incomes.
    The right should be less confident sneering at the idea of "taxing for growth".

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2051763318222659963

    You regard this as a piece of analysis do you?
    It's merely a counter to the hackneyed chant of "you can't tax your way to growth".
    Growth is complicated.

    And a lot of things that were once tailwinds to growth -like falling birthrates and increased life expectancy- are now headwinds. And at the same time, we (as in the developed world) are no longer the only purchasers of raw materials; now we need to compete with China, India and a host of other rapidly developing nations. That means we're paying more for commodities at the same time that every worker is supporting more and more retirees.

    If there were easy answers, then politicians would have already implemented them.
    Doesn't stop them offering easy answers and the public believing them.
    Also doesn’t mean there aren’t some relatively easy answers out there that could help at least marginally. It’s the total transformation narrative that’s the fairytale.

    A few examples which the data tell us should work:

    - sorting out the distorted marginal tax rates and thresholds that inhibit labour market participation
    - Tilting tax and monetary policy to encourage more consumer spending, business spending, investment in riskier but higher yielding assets and discourage saving in low yield assets
    - Liberalisation of planning rules for infrastructure
    - restructuring the energy market to allow regional pricing
    - Providing fully state run (rather than subsidised) early years childcare for working parents
    - Rejoining the single market
    - Cutting corporation tax to 15%

    And so on. Aggregation of marginal gains
    I am not sure that 'Rejoining the Single Market', ie reinstating freedom of movement for 500,000,000 Europeans, counts as as easy answer. Even though I support it. Lots don't.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 15,675
    Roger said:

    Surely the big story is that the US Iran contratemps is over? The stock market has shot up and the Yanks are going home. I hear the reason is China! They said enough is enough and that was that. A victory for brain over brawn...

    Are the BBC ignoring it?

    Surely if it's China it will be brawn over brain, although in this case the amount of brain needed was very small.
  • TazTaz Posts: 29,652

    Well I’ll be voting Lib Dem tomorrow in Newcastle.

    The WASPI women appreciate your service
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,419

    Dopermean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:

    This is a bit awkward for the Thatcherite economists.

    Britain has eight big North European neighbours.
    Of them Britain has,
    1/ The weakest economy.
    2/ The lowest taxes.
    3/ The lowest marginal tax rate on labour at high incomes.
    The right should be less confident sneering at the idea of "taxing for growth".

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2051763318222659963

    Try Switzerland, even lower taxes than the UK and higher gdp per capita than all those 8
    But it's also a disturbingly highly regulated country (outside of banking).
    Really? I lived there for 18 years, mixing with all sorts of people, and never heard that criticism, nor did I ever run into regulatory problems myself. It's quite a conformist country in many ways, but that's on the whole an advantage - it's just a more critical description of "united".
    Ignoring all the rules on toilet flushing in apartment blocks.... Switzerland, Luxembourg, RoI have high GDP/capita because multinationals book their profits there, it's "empty calories". They're not big employers in those countries.
    I always lived in apartment blocks and never encountered a toilet issue - suspect it's folklore! I was working in Basel, and there were lots of big employers who paid well - I had a middle management IT job and when I was elected in the UK my income went down by 40% - fortunately being an MP was so interesting that it didn't really matter.
    A friend worked in Zurich for a while, there was a curfew for flushing and washing machines in the block, the neighbours came round to highlight the rules.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 21,699
    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:

    This is a bit awkward for the Thatcherite economists.

    Britain has eight big North European neighbours.
    Of them Britain has,
    1/ The weakest economy.
    2/ The lowest taxes.
    3/ The lowest marginal tax rate on labour at high incomes.
    The right should be less confident sneering at the idea of "taxing for growth".

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2051763318222659963

    Try Switzerland, even lower taxes than the UK and higher gdp per capita than all those 8
    The way they pay for healthcare is effectively a tax, but not counted as a tax, which flatters their figure, doesn't it?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,722
    Roger said:

    Surely the big story is that the US Iran contratemps is over? The stock market has shot up and the Yanks are going home. I hear the reason is China! They said enough is enough and that was that. A victory for brain over brawn...

    Are the BBC ignoring it?

    It will be if it is confirmed by both sides and Parkistan

    Maybe caution is best because who trusts any of Iran US Israel ?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,930
    Hang on.
    The reported memorandum (which Iran hasn't even agreed to, and Trump has threatened cataclysmic attacks if they don't), sets a 30 day limit to agree the trivial matters of sanctions, the status of the Straits of Hormuz and Iran's nuclear programme.
    This is hardly peace.
    And stock markets are wilfully blind to all this.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,722
    dixiedean said:

    Hang on.
    The reported memorandum (which Iran hasn't even agreed to, and Trump has threatened cataclysmic attacks if they don't), sets a 30 day limit to agree the trivial matters of sanctions, the status of the Straits of Hormuz and Iran's nuclear programme.
    This is hardly peace.
    And stock markets are wilfully blind to all this.

    Lots of gaming the markets before and after announcements and many millions being earned by malign means
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,419
    Dopermean said:

    Dopermean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:

    This is a bit awkward for the Thatcherite economists.

    Britain has eight big North European neighbours.
    Of them Britain has,
    1/ The weakest economy.
    2/ The lowest taxes.
    3/ The lowest marginal tax rate on labour at high incomes.
    The right should be less confident sneering at the idea of "taxing for growth".

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2051763318222659963

    Try Switzerland, even lower taxes than the UK and higher gdp per capita than all those 8
    But it's also a disturbingly highly regulated country (outside of banking).
    Really? I lived there for 18 years, mixing with all sorts of people, and never heard that criticism, nor did I ever run into regulatory problems myself. It's quite a conformist country in many ways, but that's on the whole an advantage - it's just a more critical description of "united".
    Ignoring all the rules on toilet flushing in apartment blocks.... Switzerland, Luxembourg, RoI have high GDP/capita because multinationals book their profits there, it's "empty calories". They're not big employers in those countries.
    I always lived in apartment blocks and never encountered a toilet issue - suspect it's folklore! I was working in Basel, and there were lots of big employers who paid well - I had a middle management IT job and when I was elected in the UK my income went down by 40% - fortunately being an MP was so interesting that it didn't really matter.
    A friend worked in Zurich for a while, there was a curfew for flushing and washing machines in the block, the neighbours came round to highlight the rules.
    This will delight the right wingers lauding switzerland, they spend less than 1% GDP on defence, probably not got many frigates either. ;)
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,670

    dixiedean said:

    Hang on.
    The reported memorandum (which Iran hasn't even agreed to, and Trump has threatened cataclysmic attacks if they don't), sets a 30 day limit to agree the trivial matters of sanctions, the status of the Straits of Hormuz and Iran's nuclear programme.
    This is hardly peace.
    And stock markets are wilfully blind to all this.

    Lots of gaming the markets before and after announcements and many millions being earned by malign means
    When all this is unravelled after DJT's death the Trump family is going to NEED friends in Argentina!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,314
    edited May 6
    https://www.itv.com/news/central/2026-05-06/labour-could-lose-more-than-50-seats-in-birmingham-poll-suggests

    Labour wipeout: Party could lose more than 50 seats in Birmingham City Council, poll suggests

    The poll predicts Reform UK to get 47 seats, Independents to get 17, Labour to have 14, The Greens 12, Lib Dems 7 and the Conservatives 6.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 57,533
    Fishing said:

    "We can deduce it may take 8-10 years for the Tories to be fully rehabilitated this time around."

    I think that's phony precision and too determinative by far.

    The Conservatives between 1994 and 2007 had the overwhelming problem that they were running against a once in a century political genius. Though his shine had started to rub off a bit by 2005 there was no doubt that he was still a very formidable opponent - the man Cameron and Osborne privately and cravenly referred to as the "Master".

    This time they are up against a bumbling, incompetent, uncharismatic fool and a front bench that are, amazingly, even less credible.

    I think if the Conservatives found a leader of reasonable stature who had something convincing to say in answer tothe country's problems they could be back in the running much quicker. Kemi isn't bad, but I don't think she's that person.

    So while I think she will do alright, there is scope for a much better leader to do much better, and saying that it will take 8-10 years reminds me of those who were forecasting in 2019 that the 2020s belonged entirely to the Conservatives.

    The question is who on the Tory front bench is better than Badenoch. It ain't obvious. Amongst the 100 odd possibles its a mix of old has beens and yet to be tested. @HYUFD always goes for the old lags.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,930

    https://www.itv.com/news/central/2026-05-06/labour-could-lose-more-than-50-seats-in-birmingham-poll-suggests

    Labour wipeout: Party could lose more than 50 seats in Birmingham City Council, poll suggests

    The poll predicts Reform UK to get 47 seats, Independents to get 17, Labour to have 14, The Greens 12, Lib Dems 7 and the Conservatives 6.

    They've only 49 now.
    So that would be some achievement.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,314
    edited May 6
    dixiedean said:

    https://www.itv.com/news/central/2026-05-06/labour-could-lose-more-than-50-seats-in-birmingham-poll-suggests

    Labour wipeout: Party could lose more than 50 seats in Birmingham City Council, poll suggests

    The poll predicts Reform UK to get 47 seats, Independents to get 17, Labour to have 14, The Greens 12, Lib Dems 7 and the Conservatives 6.

    They've only 49 now.
    So that would be some achievement.
    It says 52 here, and it's relative to 2022.

    https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/50068/how_the_council_works/882/political_composition_of_the_council
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 5,681
    Taz said:

    More quality reporting from the BBC here. What value the license fee truly is to bring us these gems. The sooner it’s axed the better.

    ‘ Peta objects to 'pig-demeaning' pork pie road name’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8jv8322z88o

    Certainly not a very traditional name for a road. But new estates often have road names with a theme, so perhaps Pork Pie Road will be at home along with Fish & Chips Avenue etc.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,537
    edited May 6
    They’ve pulled the article it says page not found !

    The original showed Reform just 3 points ahead of Labour but somehow winning over 2 and a half times the amount of councillors.

    Looks like FPTP on steroids !
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,765
    carnforth said:

    Roger said:

    Surely the big story is that the US Iran contratemps is over? The stock market has shot up and the Yanks are going home. I hear the reason is China! They said enough is enough and that was that. A victory for brain over brawn...

    Are the BBC ignoring it?

    It's the top story on BBC News website, as a live feed.

    Not that I'd blame them for ignoring it given how many false dawns there have been.
    Must be at least the 10th time it has been over, people will believe anything.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,314
    nico67 said:

    They’ve pulled the article it says page not found !

    The original showed Reform just 3 points ahead of Labour but somehow winning over 2 and a half times the amount of councillors.

    Looks like FPTP on steroids !

    Strange. Either they broke an embargo or made a mistake in the reporting.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,537
    So Reform on 26% get over 40 seats and Labour I think were on 14 seats with 23% of the vote .

    Is that really possible even with the vagaries of FPTP ?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,930

    dixiedean said:

    https://www.itv.com/news/central/2026-05-06/labour-could-lose-more-than-50-seats-in-birmingham-poll-suggests

    Labour wipeout: Party could lose more than 50 seats in Birmingham City Council, poll suggests

    The poll predicts Reform UK to get 47 seats, Independents to get 17, Labour to have 14, The Greens 12, Lib Dems 7 and the Conservatives 6.

    They've only 49 now.
    So that would be some achievement.
    It says 52 here, and it's relative to 2022.

    https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/50068/how_the_council_works/882/political_composition_of_the_council
    Mmm.
    Wiki disagrees.
    I wonder if some have become Indies?
    Nevertheless. To lose more than 50 when you have 52 is still a worthy achievement.
    Particularly when the vote share has them three points out of first place.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,213
    rcs1000 said:

    MaxPB said:

    maxh said:

    FPT:

    Roger said:

    nico67 said:

    Why does Polanski continue to dig a deeper hole for himself ?

    I think the vast majority of the public couldn’t care less if the perpetrator was kicked in the head . If you attempt to kill people then refuse to hand over the knife you get what you deserve !

    If I’m thinking this as a so called leftie liberal then I think Polanski has really scored a spectacular own goal !

    If the man is schitzophrenic and has no control over his actions isn't it better that we have authorities who still care about his safety? We could always do it the American way and just shoot him but surely if at all possible the other way must be better? It made me feel rather queasy just beating up and kicking someone who was clearly not in control of himself
    This is facile. In that situation there are a lot of people who deserve to have their safety cared about, not least the police themselves who were presumably at risk of being stabbed next.

    We can have a sensible discussion about motive, blame, punishment etc. But to argue that the police should have held back from whatever they needed to do to disarm him is to see only one tiny part of the picture of potential harms here.
    I can just imagine the scene, a terrorist is on a stabbing spree in a train station, pc plod turns up and instead of rushing to disarm him they get on the megaphone and ask "are you a schizo?"

    Some people just don't live in the real world, Roger is one of them. I think sometimes he's still on the set of that Lebanese advert with bikini clad women singing this praises hoping for a passport.
    Here are the three police head-kick lines I have heard. I do not know that any has taken off.

    1) the stabber was on the ground and had been tasered
    2) possibly the reason he did not let go of the knife was the taser meant his knife-holding muscles were in spasm
    3) authorities were too quick to play up the antisemitism angle and ignored that he'd stabbed a Muslim man the same day

    As well as the pro-police lines already mentioned, it has also been suggested the head-kicking coppers feared he had a suicide bomb.
    You don't know why someone has not let go of the knife. You only know that the person still has the weapon and therefore continues to be a danger.

    Now, in an ideal world, you probably kick the knife out of the attacker's hands. But this isn't an ideal world: it's a guy with a knife whose stabbed people, and you want to disarm him as soon as possible (while opening yourself up to as little risk as possible).
    Accepted but I was merely reporting what was being said.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,537
    edited May 6
    I think the article is wrong . Labour would be totally wiped out if they lost 50 seats . Can you be just 3 points behind Reform and end up with no councillors at all ?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 60,548
    AnneJGP said:

    Taz said:

    More quality reporting from the BBC here. What value the license fee truly is to bring us these gems. The sooner it’s axed the better.

    ‘ Peta objects to 'pig-demeaning' pork pie road name’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8jv8322z88o

    Certainly not a very traditional name for a road. But new estates often have road names with a theme, so perhaps Pork Pie Road will be at home along with Fish & Chips Avenue etc.
    Pork Pie was in "Desmond's".
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 90,930
    WTF ?

    The US Justice Department will ask the Supreme Court to let it intervene in President Donald Trump’s appeal of the $83.3 million jury verdict against him in a defamation suit brought by former Elle magazine advice columnist E. Jean Carroll.
    https://x.com/josh_wingrove/status/2052028495375544795
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,962
    Off topic: Here’s a Russian sinner who has repented:
    When Ilya Remeslo, a longtime Kremlin attack lawyer and propagandist, first turned against Vladimir Putin in March, posting publicly that the Russian president should resign and be brought to justice as “a war criminal and a thief,” the Russian authorities rapidly carted Remeslo off — against his will — to a St. Petersburg psychiatric hospital.

    But, in a highly unusual development for a regime that is notorious for incarcerating its critics for years, Remeslo was freed after 30 days. Now, the pro-Kremlin henchman and blogger, who worked for the presidential administration for about a decade smearing opposition activists, is vowing to remain in Russia and continue a public anti-Putin fight.
    source$: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2026/05/06/kremlin-infighting-putin-russia-war/

    Good luck to him. (He’ll need less luck if he stays away from high windows.)
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 37,213
    Dopermean said:

    Dopermean said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:

    This is a bit awkward for the Thatcherite economists.

    Britain has eight big North European neighbours.
    Of them Britain has,
    1/ The weakest economy.
    2/ The lowest taxes.
    3/ The lowest marginal tax rate on labour at high incomes.
    The right should be less confident sneering at the idea of "taxing for growth".

    https://x.com/thomasforth/status/2051763318222659963

    Try Switzerland, even lower taxes than the UK and higher gdp per capita than all those 8
    But it's also a disturbingly highly regulated country (outside of banking).
    Really? I lived there for 18 years, mixing with all sorts of people, and never heard that criticism, nor did I ever run into regulatory problems myself. It's quite a conformist country in many ways, but that's on the whole an advantage - it's just a more critical description of "united".
    Ignoring all the rules on toilet flushing in apartment blocks.... Switzerland, Luxembourg, RoI have high GDP/capita because multinationals book their profits there, it's "empty calories". They're not big employers in those countries.
    I always lived in apartment blocks and never encountered a toilet issue - suspect it's folklore! I was working in Basel, and there were lots of big employers who paid well - I had a middle management IT job and when I was elected in the UK my income went down by 40% - fortunately being an MP was so interesting that it didn't really matter.
    A friend worked in Zurich for a while, there was a curfew for flushing and washing machines in the block, the neighbours came round to highlight the rules.
    You hear the same thing about estates (or HOAs) in the Land of the Free having all sorts of petty rules. It's almost a meme for Hollywood scriptwriters.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,289
    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:

    https://www.itv.com/news/central/2026-05-06/labour-could-lose-more-than-50-seats-in-birmingham-poll-suggests

    Labour wipeout: Party could lose more than 50 seats in Birmingham City Council, poll suggests

    The poll predicts Reform UK to get 47 seats, Independents to get 17, Labour to have 14, The Greens 12, Lib Dems 7 and the Conservatives 6.

    They've only 49 now.
    So that would be some achievement.
    It says 52 here, and it's relative to 2022.

    https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/50068/how_the_council_works/882/political_composition_of_the_council
    Mmm.
    Wiki disagrees.
    I wonder if some have become Indies?
    Nevertheless. To lose more than 50 when you have 52 is still a worthy achievement.
    Particularly when the vote share has them three points out of first place.
    Reform making even more of a mess than Labour did in my old home town is going to funny. Unless you live there and want the bins emptying of course.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,314
    edited May 6
    nico67 said:

    I think the article is wrong . Labour would be totally wiped out if they lost 50 seats . Can you be just 3 points behind Reform and end up with no councillors at all ?

    The link is working again. It says they'd be on 14 which is down 51 from the 65 they got in 2022.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Birmingham_City_Council_election
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,537
    edited May 6
    The article is back and still doesn’t make any sense .

    Labour can’t lose 51 seats and end up with 14 seats if they only had 49 or 52 to begin with depending on which source is correct .
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,537
    Apparently Farage still can’t hold constituency meetings even though he’s apparently been given 5 million pounds for his security !

    Maybe the media might do their job before the next election !
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,197
    Taz said:

    Well I’ll be voting Lib Dem tomorrow in Newcastle.

    The WASPI women appreciate your service
    I understand from the literature that the WASPI women are going to fix all the potholes. Or something.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,289
    Politics & Poll Tracker 📡
    @PollTracker2024
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    Generic congressional ballot 2026 (registered voters)
    🟦Democratic 52% (-1)
    🟥Republican 42% (-2)

    https://x.com/PollTracker2024/status/2051996256638062704
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 29,256

    Well I’ll be voting Lib Dem tomorrow in Newcastle.

    PC for me.
    They aren't going to win Newcastle.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 847
    He's not had a quiet life this past year. Former MSP for my region

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy92djdl5gno

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8v3gkezl4o
  • TazTaz Posts: 29,652
    AnneJGP said:

    Taz said:

    More quality reporting from the BBC here. What value the license fee truly is to bring us these gems. The sooner it’s axed the better.

    ‘ Peta objects to 'pig-demeaning' pork pie road name’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8jv8322z88o

    Certainly not a very traditional name for a road. But new estates often have road names with a theme, so perhaps Pork Pie Road will be at home along with Fish & Chips Avenue etc.
    Biryani Boulevard and Chicken Chasseur Close sound good.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 81,344
    nico67 said:

    The article is back and still doesn’t make any sense .

    Labour can’t lose 51 seats and end up with 14 seats if they only had 49 or 52 to begin with depending on which source is correct .

    Full on attacks on Zack Polanski for being antisemitic, or something right now
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,289
    I am not doing Lockdown again.

    So f*ck off rats.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 73,289
    I am not doing Lockdown again.

    So f*ck off rats.

  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    edited May 6
    The real kicker of the Golders Green stabbing story is this: if the attacker had been a racist white man, trying to kill as many black people - old and young - as possible - I do not believe for a second that Zak Polanski and Owen Jones and @Roger and @Theuniondivvie of this here parish would be remotely concerned about the police kicking him in the head, as the white racist attacker held on to the knife, resisted arrest, and carried on trying to kill black people

    Indeed, I am sure these same commenters would be praising the police, for acting with great courage, not killing the man, taking risks to their own lives to restrain him without lethal force

    So what's the difference? The difference is partly that the attacker was brown, but mainly that the victims were Jews. Trying to kill Jews is somehow not as bad as trying to kill black people, ergo the attacker should be shown more mercy and sympathy

    In other words, all the pious outrage is in fact driven by a pretty evil racism, AKA anti-Semitism
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 32,930
    On Birmingham. Shamelessly borrowed from woollyliberal on the Vote UK site.

    "Labour started the current council with 65/101. Deselections, Resignations, Defections and a Death leave them with just 51, and when some of those deselections didn’t turn up, the Labour leader lost a confidence vote in the last full council of the municipal year.

    Conservative started and finished with 22, if you include the semi-detached Simon Morrall, who is contesting his seat as an independent this time.

    The Lib Dems won 12 last time. Ayoub Khan defected to Independent just before winning his parliamentary seat. One defection and one by-election gain from Labour leave them with 13.

    The Greens started and finished with 2, which leaves 10 ex-Labour independents."

    So they could lose more than 50 to go down to 14.
    But not by any reasonable definition of "lose".
  • AbandonedHopeAbandonedHope Posts: 227
    Can somebody explain the fascination with Katie Lam? Some fellow PBers worship her. The press promote her as an (the?) heir to Thatcher. I’m at a loss to explain or understand her appeal. Im not sure that I’ve ever heard her speak.

    Now don’t all rush to condemn me for ignorance or naïveté. I hold multiple doctorates, run multiple businesses and come from a political background. I just do not understand the so-called appeal of Lam. Explain it to me in simple terms.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 23,399
    nico67 said:

    So Reform on 26% get over 40 seats and Labour I think were on 14 seats with 23% of the vote .

    Is that really possible even with the vagaries of FPTP ?

    No crazier than the Reform/Lib Dem outcome in 2024. Or the Lab/Con one.

    If the Reform vote is efficiently clumped, and Labour's vote is mediocre everywhere, it's what might happen.

    Labour really ought to lose in Birmingham on their local merits. Unless you use social care, councils increasingly only have one job- emptying bins. And they've failed at that job.

    Whether their defeat should look like this is another question, but that's FPTP for you.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 60,314
    nico67 said:

    Apparently Farage still can’t hold constituency meetings even though he’s apparently been given 5 million pounds for his security !

    Maybe the media might do their job before the next election !

    There’s a very disturbing video on X of someone stabbing and torturing an effigy of Farage so he’s right to be very careful about security.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,863

    Taz said:

    Well I’ll be voting Lib Dem tomorrow in Newcastle.

    The WASPI women appreciate your service
    I understand from the literature that the WASPI women are going to fix all the potholes. Or something.
    Can you fix pot holes with bile and crocodile tears?
  • TazTaz Posts: 29,652

    Taz said:

    Well I’ll be voting Lib Dem tomorrow in Newcastle.

    The WASPI women appreciate your service
    I understand from the literature that the WASPI women are going to fix all the potholes. Or something.
    Can you fix pot holes with bile and crocodile tears?
    Or entitlement.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,863

    I am not doing Lockdown again.

    So f*ck off rats.

    There’s not going to be a hantavirus pandemic. Transmission is symptomatic and close contact. Covid was thankfully unusual in its nature. (As in most viruses are not like it).
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,537
    edited May 6

    nico67 said:

    Apparently Farage still can’t hold constituency meetings even though he’s apparently been given 5 million pounds for his security !

    Maybe the media might do their job before the next election !

    There’s a very disturbing video on X of someone stabbing and torturing an effigy of Farage so he’s right to be very careful about security.
    With 5 million pounds for security he can do constituency meetings ! Unless of course it was all a big fat lie !
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,608
    Nigelb said:

    WTF ?

    The US Justice Department will ask the Supreme Court to let it intervene in President Donald Trump’s appeal of the $83.3 million jury verdict against him in a defamation suit brought by former Elle magazine advice columnist E. Jean Carroll.
    https://x.com/josh_wingrove/status/2052028495375544795

    They'll do it too. Even though he can easily afford it.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,694
    Taz said:

    The Greens approach to potholes.




    I'm in a Green-coloured area on this map. And we have shitloads of potholes.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,608
    There seems to have been a lot of focus on the results to come out of Birmingham. Granted, it is a huge place and it has been dramatic in the last five years, but I'm still surprised there have been multiple polls trying to predict the local results there, as it is quite hard with local councils.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 104,608
    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    The Greens approach to potholes.




    I'm in a Green-coloured area on this map. And we have shitloads of potholes.
    Me too, makes me worried for the rest of the country.
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    edited May 6
    You can feel it, in the air, can't you?

    That slight and subtle tang on the breeze, that distant but perceptible sharpness. The rumour of a story of a tale told by a neighbour, of a cold wind, where the road bends

    We are just six weeks from the nights drawing in. Autumn is on the way
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,604
    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    The Greens approach to potholes.




    I'm in a Green-coloured area on this map. And we have shitloads of potholes.
    You've got speed holes. Carefully designed to slow traffic on approach for safety and energy saving purposes.
  • TazTaz Posts: 29,652
    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    The Greens approach to potholes.




    I'm in a Green-coloured area on this map. And we have shitloads of potholes.
    I’m amber and, to be fair to the Reform council, quite a few potholes by me have been fixed recently as well as more visible maintenance.
  • TazTaz Posts: 29,652
    Battlebus said:

    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    The Greens approach to potholes.




    I'm in a Green-coloured area on this map. And we have shitloads of potholes.
    You've got speed holes. Carefully designed to slow traffic on approach for safety and energy saving purposes.
    And instead of getting a ticket you get a cracked axle if you fail to comply.
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    edited May 6
    Taz said:

    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    The Greens approach to potholes.




    I'm in a Green-coloured area on this map. And we have shitloads of potholes.
    I’m amber and, to be fair to the Reform council, quite a few potholes by me have been fixed recently as well as more visible maintenance.
    There should be a special ultra-purple for The Bishop's Avenue, which doesn't have pot holes, it's more a dense sequence of vast, terrifying chasms, with the occasional weird flat bit, that could be ancient traces of road
  • SonofContrarianSonofContrarian Posts: 304

    I am not doing Lockdown again.

    So f*ck off rats.

    There’s not going to be a hantavirus pandemic. Transmission is symptomatic and close contact. Covid was thankfully unusual in its nature. (As in most viruses are not like it).
    Millions would refuse to lockdown, whatever form the next virus is claimed to be..💩
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 5,681
    Leon said:

    You can feel it, in the air, can't you?

    That slight and subtle tang on the breeze, that distant but perceptible sharpness. The rumour of a story of a tale told by a neighbour, of a cold wind, where the road bends

    We are just six weeks from the nights drawing in. Autumn is on the way

    Happy Christmas.
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    AnneJGP said:

    Leon said:

    You can feel it, in the air, can't you?

    That slight and subtle tang on the breeze, that distant but perceptible sharpness. The rumour of a story of a tale told by a neighbour, of a cold wind, where the road bends

    We are just six weeks from the nights drawing in. Autumn is on the way

    Happy Christmas.
    I'm already buying Easter eggs for 2027
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    In fact, I think I can detect the very first signs of spring 2028. A slight shift in shadows, the peep of colour in the grass

    It's decidedly subtle,. only a sensitive poet type like me can really discern it, but it is there
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 8,319

    Can somebody explain the fascination with Katie Lam? Some fellow PBers worship her. The press promote her as an (the?) heir to Thatcher. I’m at a loss to explain or understand her appeal. Im not sure that I’ve ever heard her speak.

    Now don’t all rush to condemn me for ignorance or naïveté. I hold multiple doctorates, run multiple businesses and come from a political background. I just do not understand the so-called appeal of Lam. Explain it to me in simple terms.

    The media and PB are desperate for another Thatcher. Katie Lam is currently the closest. Therefore, said media and PB contributors are bigging up Katie Lam.
  • MightyAlexMightyAlex Posts: 1,968

    I am not doing Lockdown again.

    So f*ck off rats.

    There’s not going to be a hantavirus pandemic. Transmission is symptomatic and close contact. Covid was thankfully unusual in its nature. (As in most viruses are not like it).
    Millions would refuse to lockdown, whatever form the next virus is claimed to be..💩
    At a 30% fatality rate they'd auto-lock down harder than your skull.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,816
    viewcode said:

    Well I’ll be voting Lib Dem tomorrow in Newcastle.

    PC for me.
    They aren't going to win Newcastle.
    And only a single write-in vote for them down in Essex?
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 17,877
    Leon said:

    You can feel it, in the air, can't you?

    That slight and subtle tang on the breeze, that distant but perceptible sharpness. The rumour of a story of a tale told by a neighbour, of a cold wind, where the road bends

    We are just six weeks from the nights drawing in. Autumn is on the way

    Up in Cumberland (red for pot holes by the way, see above, and it's a significant issue) that sharpness is the residual elements of last winter not the harbinger of the next autumn. The recent snow on the fells was last winter, not next. We are all a bit behind. We may have a few days of summer randomly distributed in June and July, and there was a single day a week or so back when everyone wore tee shirts and shorts. But fairly dry. It hasn't actually rained for about 12 hours.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,816

    Can somebody explain the fascination with Katie Lam? Some fellow PBers worship her. The press promote her as an (the?) heir to Thatcher. I’m at a loss to explain or understand her appeal. Im not sure that I’ve ever heard her speak.

    Now don’t all rush to condemn me for ignorance or naïveté. I hold multiple doctorates, run multiple businesses and come from a political background. I just do not understand the so-called appeal of Lam. Explain it to me in simple terms.

    She’s relatively untainted by the Tories’ past utter incompetence, sleaze and mendacity, and - at least at first glance - relatively media friendly. And she compares well with all the others - admittedly a very low bar.
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    IanB2 said:

    Leon said:

    The real kicker of the Golders Green stabbing story is this: if the attacker had been a racist white man, trying to kill as many black people - old and young - as possible - I do not believe for a second that Zak Polanski and Owen Jones and @Roger and @Theuniondivvie of this here parish would be remotely concerned about the police kicking him in the head, as the white racist attacker held on to the knife, resisted arrest, and carried on trying to kill black people

    Indeed, I am sure these same commenters would be praising the police, for acting with great courage, not killing the man, taking risks to their own lives to restrain him without lethal force

    So what's the difference? The difference is partly that the attacker was brown, but mainly that the victims were Jews. Trying to kill Jews is somehow not as bad as trying to kill black people, ergo the attacker should be shown more mercy and sympathy

    In other words, all the pious outrage is in fact driven by a pretty evil racism, AKA anti-Semitism

    The other difference is that you’re posting incessantly about it, which signals the ethnicity of the perpetrator to PB’ers as clear as day.
    Because the story is live. It is driving down the ratings of the Green leader, on the verge of what is meant to be their big breakthrough election
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,765

    Can somebody explain the fascination with Katie Lam? Some fellow PBers worship her. The press promote her as an (the?) heir to Thatcher. I’m at a loss to explain or understand her appeal. Im not sure that I’ve ever heard her speak.

    Now don’t all rush to condemn me for ignorance or naïveté. I hold multiple doctorates, run multiple businesses and come from a political background. I just do not understand the so-called appeal of Lam. Explain it to me in simple terms.

    The media and PB are desperate for another Thatcher. Katie Lam is currently the closest. Therefore, said media and PB contributors are bigging up Katie Lam.
    Never heard of her.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 5,681
    Taz said:

    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    The Greens approach to potholes.




    I'm in a Green-coloured area on this map. And we have shitloads of potholes.
    I’m amber and, to be fair to the Reform council, quite a few potholes by me have been fixed recently as well as more visible maintenance.
    In my locality, our lives have been disrupted and made horribly difficult by road works for months. Somehow it just adds insult to injury when you find that, once the roadworks have moved on a few hundred yards, you see they didn't fix the potholes in the bits of road alongside where they were actually digging up/resurfacing.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 8,319
    kle4 said:

    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    The Greens approach to potholes.




    I'm in a Green-coloured area on this map. And we have shitloads of potholes.
    Me too, makes me worried for the rest of the country.
    We were held up on a single track road in the highlands this afternoon by a council worker filling in a pothole. After he had thrown some shovelfuls of tarmac into said pothole, Mrs. F and I had a discussion about how it would be levelled. Mrs. F chose the back of the shovel. I chose the worker’s boots. We were both wrong. The pickup driver drove backwards and forwards over the pothole until the tarmac was compacted to their satisfaction. I give the repair a month.
  • TazTaz Posts: 29,652
    AnneJGP said:

    Taz said:

    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    The Greens approach to potholes.




    I'm in a Green-coloured area on this map. And we have shitloads of potholes.
    I’m amber and, to be fair to the Reform council, quite a few potholes by me have been fixed recently as well as more visible maintenance.
    In my locality, our lives have been disrupted and made horribly difficult by road works for months. Somehow it just adds insult to injury when you find that, once the roadworks have moved on a few hundred yards, you see they didn't fix the potholes in the bits of road alongside where they were actually digging up/resurfacing.
    You’d think there’d be some joined up thinking when they do these things and if solving one problem they’d do another while there.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,706
    edited May 6
    @LewisJWarner
    🚨 A bombshell Birmingham poll just dropped on the eve of voting

    ➡️ RFM: 47
    👤 IND: 17
    🌹 LAB: 14
    🌍 GRN: 12
    🌳 CON: 6
    🔶 LDM: 5

    Labour faces its WORST ever result in the city

    Independents surge to become 2nd largest group

    https://x.com/LewisJWarner/status/2052086011736326290?s=20
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 8,319
    Leon said:

    Taz said:

    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    The Greens approach to potholes.




    I'm in a Green-coloured area on this map. And we have shitloads of potholes.
    I’m amber and, to be fair to the Reform council, quite a few potholes by me have been fixed recently as well as more visible maintenance.
    There should be a special ultra-purple for The Bishop's Avenue, which doesn't have pot holes, it's more a dense sequence of vast, terrifying chasms, with the occasional weird flat bit, that could be ancient traces of road
    Purple seems the appropriate colour for The Bishop’s Avenue.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 55,816
    Scott_xP said:

    @LewisJWarner
    🚨 A bombshell Birmingham poll just dropped on the eve of voting

    ➡️ RFM: 47
    👤 IND: 17
    🌹 LAB: 14
    🌍 GRN: 12
    🌳 CON: 6
    🔶 LDM: 5

    Labour faces its WORST ever result in the city

    Independents surge to become 2nd largest group

    https://x.com/LewisJWarner/status/2052086011736326290?s=20

    Expectations for Labour have been driven so low that you begin to wonder whether, if they save any number of seats at all, they may be able to claim it wasn’t as bad as predicted.
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