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edited April 23 in General
Angela Rayner’s Liz Truss problem – politicalbetting.com

If Sir Keir Starmer ceases to be Labour leader before the next general election then I expect Angela Rayner would be the likeliest candidate to replace him yet during the white heat of a leadership election campaign I can see this comments being used against her by her Labour rivals.

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  • eekeek Posts: 33,926
    edited April 23
    First like Rayner if SKS quits soon
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,612
    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    I’m not nervous yet, but there’s currently a massive wave of USAF heading East towards me!

    https://x.com/warmonitor3/status/2047294223636963514

    Is TSE on holiday at the moment?
    I start a short weekend break in exactly one week.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,870
    https://x.com/TheMillwallFans/status/2047264927753142491

    Millwall Supporters’ Club @TheMillwallFans Message from @MillwallFC

    The club has received a full apology from Westminster Council following their serious misuse of a registered club badge, which was placed on an illustration of a white supremacist hate group member in a children's education booklet distributed in schools, creating a false and damaging image of the club.

    The council have confirmed no more copies of the image with the club's logo will be made or distributed by them and all remaining material in their possession will be destroyed.

    The club is still considering its legal position on the matter and are unable to comment further.


    See here for the image....

    https://x.com/EnolaJon/status/2047287639884054773
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,887
    Diane Abbott is quoting Boris Johnson

    https://x.com/hackneyabbott/status/2047296729251205200

    When the herd moves, it moves...
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,612
    tlg86 said:

    https://x.com/TheMillwallFans/status/2047264927753142491

    Millwall Supporters’ Club @TheMillwallFans Message from @MillwallFC

    The club has received a full apology from Westminster Council following their serious misuse of a registered club badge, which was placed on an illustration of a white supremacist hate group member in a children's education booklet distributed in schools, creating a false and damaging image of the club.

    The council have confirmed no more copies of the image with the club's logo will be made or distributed by them and all remaining material in their possession will be destroyed.

    The club is still considering its legal position on the matter and are unable to comment further.


    See here for the image....

    https://x.com/EnolaJon/status/2047287639884054773

    Utter woke nonsense from Millwall.

    But I am glad to see that they are strong believers in copyright enforcement, that helps keep lawyers in business.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,634
    edited April 23
    I have severe doubts about Rayner succeeding Starmer.
    However, if a Swiss bank and the Telegraph are opposed I may have to think again.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,695
    FPT:

    dixiedean said:

    Trump v Iran showdown this weekend!
    Second Round at the Crucible.

    Who will break first?
    There is big cue of ships at Hormaz, taking a rest. Perhaps it is time to think of a bridge rather than ships to get around the naval blockade?
    That bridge needs deep pockets.
    Have they thought of using camels? Ships of the desert, and all that....
    There’s actually a significant land bridge going on, with lorries and trains heading across the UAE with containers. Mostly imports coming into the Gulf States. It’s not really practical to transport O&G by road or rail though.

    https://www.thenationalnews.com/business/economy/2026/03/23/uae-and-saudi-chart-new-trade-routes-as-hormuz-disruption-grows/

  • TazTaz Posts: 28,219
    Rayner is the PB idea of a working class Everyman, or woman.

    She’s so authentic and working class, working class communities should love her.

    Nah. She’s awful

    She’d be labours Liz Truss.

  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,887
    https://x.com/owenjonesjourno/status/2047296633247760426

    "Mandelson was brought back into the fold by Starmer’s chief of staff, Morgan McSweeney."

    This is from The Times in February 2021.

    When I asked a Starmer aide about it at the time, they replied:

    "You do know citing stuff from @Gabriel_Pogrund isn't gospel, yeah?"
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,695
    Taz said:

    Rayner is the PB idea of a working class Everyman, or woman.

    She’s so authentic and working class, working class communities should love her.

    Nah. She’s awful

    She’d be labours Liz Truss.

    That’s a (rare) insult to Liz Truss.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,219

    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    I’m not nervous yet, but there’s currently a massive wave of USAF heading East towards me!

    https://x.com/warmonitor3/status/2047294223636963514

    Is TSE on holiday at the moment?
    I start a short weekend break in exactly one week.
    OMG, the gulf is going to explode !!
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,695
    tlg86 said:

    https://x.com/TheMillwallFans/status/2047264927753142491

    Millwall Supporters’ Club @TheMillwallFans Message from @MillwallFC

    The club has received a full apology from Westminster Council following their serious misuse of a registered club badge, which was placed on an illustration of a white supremacist hate group member in a children's education booklet distributed in schools, creating a false and damaging image of the club.

    The council have confirmed no more copies of the image with the club's logo will be made or distributed by them and all remaining material in their possession will be destroyed.

    The club is still considering its legal position on the matter and are unable to comment further.


    See here for the image....

    https://x.com/EnolaJon/status/2047287639884054773

    The local council depicting “Millwall fans” as generically racist, is surely defamation, even if the club has a long history of having to deal with some unsavoury elements among their support?

    The club will argue that they’re making a huge effort to confront racism, and point to a number of stadium bans and withdrawn memberships in recent years.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,695
    Taz said:

    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    I’m not nervous yet, but there’s currently a massive wave of USAF heading East towards me!

    https://x.com/warmonitor3/status/2047294223636963514

    Is TSE on holiday at the moment?
    I start a short weekend break in exactly one week.
    OMG, the gulf is going to explode !!
    Oi!
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,219
    Sandpit said:

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    I’m not nervous yet, but there’s currently a massive wave of USAF heading East towards me!

    https://x.com/warmonitor3/status/2047294223636963514

    Is TSE on holiday at the moment?
    I start a short weekend break in exactly one week.
    OMG, the gulf is going to explode !!
    Oi!
    @TheScreamingEagles

    Cancel your vacation !
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,612
    Taz said:

    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    I’m not nervous yet, but there’s currently a massive wave of USAF heading East towards me!

    https://x.com/warmonitor3/status/2047294223636963514

    Is TSE on holiday at the moment?
    I start a short weekend break in exactly one week.
    OMG, the gulf is going to explode !!
    Don’t worry, I’ll have scheduled threads up on Brexit, AV, and Scottish independence to keep you all entertained.

    My time will be sparse that weekend as I’ve already negotiated time to watch the Miami sprint race and Grand Prix next weekend.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,426

    Diane Abbott is quoting Boris Johnson

    https://x.com/hackneyabbott/status/2047296729251205200

    When the herd moves, it moves...

    Can she co-opt the Tory Herd notion like that?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 21,005
    Sandpit said:

    tlg86 said:

    https://x.com/TheMillwallFans/status/2047264927753142491

    Millwall Supporters’ Club @TheMillwallFans Message from @MillwallFC

    The club has received a full apology from Westminster Council following their serious misuse of a registered club badge, which was placed on an illustration of a white supremacist hate group member in a children's education booklet distributed in schools, creating a false and damaging image of the club.

    The council have confirmed no more copies of the image with the club's logo will be made or distributed by them and all remaining material in their possession will be destroyed.

    The club is still considering its legal position on the matter and are unable to comment further.


    See here for the image....

    https://x.com/EnolaJon/status/2047287639884054773

    The local council depicting “Millwall fans” as generically racist, is surely defamation, even if the club has a long history of having to deal with some unsavoury elements among their support?

    The club will argue that they’re making a huge effort to confront racism, and point to a number of stadium bans and withdrawn memberships in recent years.
    You can only defame individuals, not non-specific groups.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 27,958
    tlg86 said:

    https://x.com/TheMillwallFans/status/2047264927753142491

    Millwall Supporters’ Club @TheMillwallFans Message from @MillwallFC

    The club has received a full apology from Westminster Council following their serious misuse of a registered club badge, which was placed on an illustration of a white supremacist hate group member in a children's education booklet distributed in schools, creating a false and damaging image of the club.

    The council have confirmed no more copies of the image with the club's logo will be made or distributed by them and all remaining material in their possession will be destroyed.

    The club is still considering its legal position on the matter and are unable to comment further.


    See here for the image....

    https://x.com/EnolaJon/status/2047287639884054773

    No one likes us, we don't care*

    * (unless someone puts out a mean leaflet about us in which case we will sue the b*******)
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,219

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    I’m not nervous yet, but there’s currently a massive wave of USAF heading East towards me!

    https://x.com/warmonitor3/status/2047294223636963514

    Is TSE on holiday at the moment?
    I start a short weekend break in exactly one week.
    OMG, the gulf is going to explode !!
    Don’t worry, I’ll have scheduled threads up on Brexit, AV, and Scottish independence to keep you all entertained.

    My time will be sparse that weekend as I’ve already negotiated time to watch the Miami sprint race and Grand Prix next weekend.
    Magic. We need more threads on subjects like those that are rarely covered !! 👍
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 14,288
    edited April 23
    Currently cycle touring and it’s glorious weather. Factor 50 streaming into my eyes. Curlews and lapwings and hares and lambs and possibly a short-eared owl earlier on.

    Hordes of retirees doing the same thing (I’m on a popular route), I’m getting a bit tired of the constant greetings and pleasantries. Great to see though and the pubs are doing a decent trade off the back of it. And that’s before you add in all the walkers too.

    If the oil price does go mental this could be another good year for outdoor activities, domestic holidays, as well as renewables. Some of the best scenery and history in the world is never more than a day’s cycle away.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,426

    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    I’m not nervous yet, but there’s currently a massive wave of USAF heading East towards me!

    https://x.com/warmonitor3/status/2047294223636963514

    Is TSE on holiday at the moment?
    I start a short weekend break in exactly one week.
    Private Fraser applies.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,705
    edited April 23
    .

    Sandpit said:

    tlg86 said:

    https://x.com/TheMillwallFans/status/2047264927753142491

    Millwall Supporters’ Club @TheMillwallFans Message from @MillwallFC

    The club has received a full apology from Westminster Council following their serious misuse of a registered club badge, which was placed on an illustration of a white supremacist hate group member in a children's education booklet distributed in schools, creating a false and damaging image of the club.

    The council have confirmed no more copies of the image with the club's logo will be made or distributed by them and all remaining material in their possession will be destroyed.

    The club is still considering its legal position on the matter and are unable to comment further.


    See here for the image....

    https://x.com/EnolaJon/status/2047287639884054773

    The local council depicting “Millwall fans” as generically racist, is surely defamation, even if the club has a long history of having to deal with some unsavoury elements among their support?

    The club will argue that they’re making a huge effort to confront racism, and point to a number of stadium bans and withdrawn memberships in recent years.
    You can only defame individuals, not non-specific groups.
    You can defame non-specific groups.
    But you can't be sued for libel.

    Corporate bodies can sue, though.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation_Act_2013
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 32,342
    Concerned about rumours that victims would be "burned to death" by her government, Rayner told a buffet gathering of bankers that cintrary to this outrageous suggestion, they would instead be burned alive.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 14,288
    On topic: I don’t think people really care how mental policies or vibes are now, particularly among Labour members. The big threat is the Greens/Plaid/SNP supplanting them on the left and you can see how Rayner would appear to be answer to that.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,695
    The story of how half a dozen stuck cruise ships made a run for it last Friday.

    https://x.com/marinetraffic/status/2046220922466504817

    They offloaded passengers and hotel staff, kept a minimum navigation and engineering crew onboard, and stayed as close to the Omani coast as possible.

    Two of them were visible from my house for the past seven weeks, it must have cost the operators millions of dollars to have them stuck.
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 636
    You’ve got a broker note, relayed via the Telegraph, speculating that markets might get nervous. That’s conjecture dressed up as signal. Add in some reports of quiet dinners and calls with City types, all off-the-record and light on detail, and that’s about the size of it. No speech, no defined framework, nothing you can actually interrogate.

    The comparison is doing most of the work. Truss managed to shred fiscal credibility in public, in real time, with actual policy decisions. There’s no evidence of anything comparable here.

    What you can see is how useful the line is. “Markets nervous about Rayner” is tidy, repeatable, and lands easily in a leadership contest. It doesn’t need much behind it to stick.

    Feels like a narrative looking for weight rather than weight producing the narrative.

    Also, it’s Thursday afternoon and the sun’s out, and we’re all pretending a broker note is a major political event. That probably says enough.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,219
    Eabhal said:

    Currently cycle touring and it’s glorious weather. Factor 50 streaming into my eyes. Curlews and lapwings and hares and lambs and possibly a short-eared owl earlier on.

    Hordes of retirees doing the same thing (I’m on a popular route), I’m getting a bit tired of the constant greetings and pleasantries. Great to see though and the pubs are doing a decent trade off the back of it. And that’s before you add in all the walkers too.

    If the oil price does go mental this could be another good year for outdoor activities, domestic holidays, as well as renewables. Some of the best scenery and history in the world is never more than a day’s cycle away.

    True but book early before price gouging on domestic holidays

    I cycled 20 miles to the in laws yesterday. Loved the cycle but it was fucking freezing.

    This may be the year I get rid of my car as I cycle more than I drive.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 89,705
    Sandpit said:

    The story of how half a dozen stuck cruise ships made a run for it last Friday.

    https://x.com/marinetraffic/status/2046220922466504817

    They offloaded passengers and hotel staff, kept a minimum navigation and engineering crew onboard, and stayed as close to the Omani coast as possible.

    Two of them were visible from my house for the past seven weeks, it must have cost the operators millions of dollars to have them stuck.

    Hasn't Iran been playing the same game, except hugging the Pakistan and Indian coasts ?
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,219
    Nigelb said:

    Sandpit said:

    The story of how half a dozen stuck cruise ships made a run for it last Friday.

    https://x.com/marinetraffic/status/2046220922466504817

    They offloaded passengers and hotel staff, kept a minimum navigation and engineering crew onboard, and stayed as close to the Omani coast as possible.

    Two of them were visible from my house for the past seven weeks, it must have cost the operators millions of dollars to have them stuck.

    Hasn't Iran been playing the same game, except hugging the Pakistan and Indian coasts ?
    Certainly seen that on Twitter
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,612

    I have severe doubts about Rayner succeeding Starmer.
    However, if a Swiss bank and the Telegraph are opposed I may have to think again.

    I am personally offended by that comment, you might as well start slagging off lawyers as well.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 14,288
    edited April 23
    Taz said:

    Eabhal said:

    Currently cycle touring and it’s glorious weather. Factor 50 streaming into my eyes. Curlews and lapwings and hares and lambs and possibly a short-eared owl earlier on.

    Hordes of retirees doing the same thing (I’m on a popular route), I’m getting a bit tired of the constant greetings and pleasantries. Great to see though and the pubs are doing a decent trade off the back of it. And that’s before you add in all the walkers too.

    If the oil price does go mental this could be another good year for outdoor activities, domestic holidays, as well as renewables. Some of the best scenery and history in the world is never more than a day’s cycle away.

    True but book early before price gouging on domestic holidays

    I cycled 20 miles to the in laws yesterday. Loved the cycle but it was fucking freezing.

    This may be the year I get rid of my car as I cycle more than I drive.
    Yeah, also diesel feeding into train ticket prices. The best and most useful lines for holidaying in the UK are vulnerable to that.

    (Not sure how the franchise mechanisms work - maybe protected before contracts come to an end?)
  • Off on a trip at the weekend. Looking forward to it

    Partly because I have just been told the cost of the trip, WERE I paying (I am not paying)

    Somewhere between £30,000-£35,000. For a week
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,562
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 21,005
    edited April 23
    This is someone being investigated for not doing enough to stop Letby, AIUI...?

    If Letby is actually innocent, there's no case for gross negligence because she wasn't stopped.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,219
    Leon said:

    Off on a trip at the weekend. Looking forward to it

    Partly because I have just been told the cost of the trip, WERE I paying (I am not paying)

    Somewhere between £30,000-£35,000. For a week

    The Travelodge in West Brom ?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,961
    edited April 23
    Leon said:

    Off on a trip at the weekend. Looking forward to it

    Partly because I have just been told the cost of the trip, WERE I paying (I am not paying)

    Somewhere between £30,000-£35,000. For a week

    Given the price of diesel, you are doing a HGV trip from Land's End to John o' Groats?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,695
    Fedosia oil terminal is on fire again.

    https://x.com/nafovoyager/status/2047267920196112562

    That’s at least three current massive fires at oil facilities, plus the chemical factory.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,961
    edited April 23
    Taz said:

    Leon said:

    Off on a trip at the weekend. Looking forward to it

    Partly because I have just been told the cost of the trip, WERE I paying (I am not paying)

    Somewhere between £30,000-£35,000. For a week

    The Travelodge in West Brom ?
    Hotel prices in the US, its sounds about right for Travelodge in Birmingham...Alabama.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,695
    Leon said:

    Off on a trip at the weekend. Looking forward to it

    Partly because I have just been told the cost of the trip, WERE I paying (I am not paying)

    Somewhere between £30,000-£35,000. For a week

    Miami for the F1? Although for most it will be a lot more expensive than £35k.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,961
    edited April 23
    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20
  • Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    Off on a trip at the weekend. Looking forward to it

    Partly because I have just been told the cost of the trip, WERE I paying (I am not paying)

    Somewhere between £30,000-£35,000. For a week

    Miami for the F1? Although for most it will be a lot more expensive than £35k.
    I've been trying to work out if it is the single most expensive week long trip I've ever taken

    Probably it is. I did the maiden voyage of the Greg Mortimer to Antarctica, with Antarctic sea kayaking led by the man who invented Antarctic sea-kayaying. That was about £20,000 back then and might be £30k now, but it's nearly two weeks

    Private helicoptering around the Whitsundays? My personal safari right across Zambia with my own little aircraft at various points? The Oberoi-only jaunt across north India?

    All insanely expensive, were I paying, but I still think this tops out. Wow
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,218

    This is someone being investigated for not doing enough to stop Letby, AIUI...?

    If Letby is actually innocent, there's no case for gross negligence because she wasn't stopped.
    I've recently read one of the books on the case. I remain unsure if she is guilty or not, but perhaps leaning more to the guilty. (Clearly I wasn't in court, didn't see all the evidence etc). Of all the deaths and harms, the insulin evidence is the hardest for those who believe her innocent to explain.

    The case against the bosses is presumably that the doctors' concerns were ignored allowing more babies to be harmed or killed. I think that's a tough one. At the time there were significant voices supporting Letby (i.e. proclaiming her innocence) such as the nursing manager. Its also the case to ask this - if the doctors genuinely believed that Letby was harming babies why didn't THEY go to the police?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,870

    This is someone being investigated for not doing enough to stop Letby, AIUI...?

    If Letby is actually innocent, there's no case for gross negligence because she wasn't stopped.
    That's how I read that. Suggest the Old Bill aren't expecting Letby to be release any time soon. Can you imagine if they've locked up a load of others too?
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 636
    Leon said:

    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    Off on a trip at the weekend. Looking forward to it

    Partly because I have just been told the cost of the trip, WERE I paying (I am not paying)

    Somewhere between £30,000-£35,000. For a week

    Miami for the F1? Although for most it will be a lot more expensive than £35k.
    I've been trying to work out if it is the single most expensive week long trip I've ever taken

    Probably it is. I did the maiden voyage of the Greg Mortimer to Antarctica, with Antarctic sea kayaking led by the man who invented Antarctic sea-kayaying. That was about £20,000 back then and might be £30k now, but it's nearly two weeks

    Private helicoptering around the Whitsundays? My personal safari right across Zambia with my own little aircraft at various points? The Oberoi-only jaunt across north India?

    All insanely expensive, were I paying, but I still think this tops out. Wow
    Fair play. Nice to see someone bravely tackling the important question:
    how much money can be incinerated in seven days without technically buying anything.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 23,218
    Leon said:

    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    Off on a trip at the weekend. Looking forward to it

    Partly because I have just been told the cost of the trip, WERE I paying (I am not paying)

    Somewhere between £30,000-£35,000. For a week

    Miami for the F1? Although for most it will be a lot more expensive than £35k.
    I've been trying to work out if it is the single most expensive week long trip I've ever taken

    Probably it is. I did the maiden voyage of the Greg Mortimer to Antarctica, with Antarctic sea kayaking led by the man who invented Antarctic sea-kayaying. That was about £20,000 back then and might be £30k now, but it's nearly two weeks

    Private helicoptering around the Whitsundays? My personal safari right across Zambia with my own little aircraft at various points? The Oberoi-only jaunt across north India?

    All insanely expensive, were I paying, but I still think this tops out. Wow
    Its a bit unfair as you won't be allowed to answer, but isn't AI going to put travel writers out of business?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,612
    edited April 23

    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    Who could have predicted What.Three.Words was a load of shite?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,247
    Leon said:

    Off on a trip at the weekend. Looking forward to it

    Partly because I have just been told the cost of the trip, WERE I paying (I am not paying)

    Somewhere between £30,000-£35,000. For a week

    If you went on perma-holiday at that rate, for ten years, the total cost would only come to a bit more than £25m.

    Which shows what a different world the super-rich inhabit.
  • What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    Trust me, it will surprise on the upside
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,695
    edited April 23
    Sweeney74 said:

    Leon said:

    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    Off on a trip at the weekend. Looking forward to it

    Partly because I have just been told the cost of the trip, WERE I paying (I am not paying)

    Somewhere between £30,000-£35,000. For a week

    Miami for the F1? Although for most it will be a lot more expensive than £35k.
    I've been trying to work out if it is the single most expensive week long trip I've ever taken

    Probably it is. I did the maiden voyage of the Greg Mortimer to Antarctica, with Antarctic sea kayaking led by the man who invented Antarctic sea-kayaying. That was about £20,000 back then and might be £30k now, but it's nearly two weeks

    Private helicoptering around the Whitsundays? My personal safari right across Zambia with my own little aircraft at various points? The Oberoi-only jaunt across north India?

    All insanely expensive, were I paying, but I still think this tops out. Wow
    Fair play. Nice to see someone bravely tackling the important question:
    how much money can be incinerated in seven days without technically buying anything.
    Private planes and boats. You can easily spend $10k or more per hour.

    Charter a 200’ yacht for the Monaco GP weekend, you can burn several million.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,826

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    I’m not nervous yet, but there’s currently a massive wave of USAF heading East towards me!

    https://x.com/warmonitor3/status/2047294223636963514

    Is TSE on holiday at the moment?
    I start a short weekend break in exactly one week.
    OMG, the gulf is going to explode !!
    Don’t worry, I’ll have scheduled threads up on Brexit, AV, and Scottish independence to keep you all entertained.

    My time will be sparse that weekend as I’ve already negotiated time to watch the Miami sprint race and Grand Prix next weekend.
    Is that the same AV that your heart-throb Dave opposes?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,612
    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    Off on a trip at the weekend. Looking forward to it

    Partly because I have just been told the cost of the trip, WERE I paying (I am not paying)

    Somewhere between £30,000-£35,000. For a week

    Miami for the F1? Although for most it will be a lot more expensive than £35k.
    If I had gone to the Las Vegas Grand Prix last year I would have to sell a kidney.

    The hotel room prices alone were shocking, at those prices you’d expect at lest six hookers in my room.

    I’ve stayed at Claridge’s and the Burj Khalifa and the Vegas prices made those look like a Premier Inn.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 21,005

    Leon said:

    Off on a trip at the weekend. Looking forward to it

    Partly because I have just been told the cost of the trip, WERE I paying (I am not paying)

    Somewhere between £30,000-£35,000. For a week

    If you went on perma-holiday at that rate, for ten years, the total cost would only come to a bit more than £25m.

    Which shows what a different world the super-rich inhabit.
    And people wonder why the populist left are gaining support.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,562
    tlg86 said:

    This is someone being investigated for not doing enough to stop Letby, AIUI...?

    If Letby is actually innocent, there's no case for gross negligence because she wasn't stopped.
    That's how I read that. Suggest the Old Bill aren't expecting Letby to be release any time soon. Can you imagine if they've locked up a load of others too?
    When the saga began, I wondered if it was the case that she was guilty and the unit was a scandal as well.

    The G K Chesterton story of a murderer who hid their crime by arranging battle on the same spot comes to mind.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,695

    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    What exactly is their source of revenue?

    Anyone can set up something almost the same, with a better implementation, and put them out of business overnight. How much IP do they own on the *concept* of using words to describe a location?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 56,882

    tlg86 said:

    This is someone being investigated for not doing enough to stop Letby, AIUI...?

    If Letby is actually innocent, there's no case for gross negligence because she wasn't stopped.
    That's how I read that. Suggest the Old Bill aren't expecting Letby to be release any time soon. Can you imagine if they've locked up a load of others too?
    When the saga began, I wondered if it was the case that she was guilty and the unit was a scandal as well.

    The G K Chesterton story of a murderer who hid their crime by arranging battle on the same spot comes to mind.
    I think both quite likely. It is easier for a murderer to get away with killing if governance and supervision are dysfunctional.

    One of the management being arrested for conspiracy to pervert the course of justice means more than being a bit casual, it surely means an active cover up.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 21,005
    edited April 23

    tlg86 said:

    This is someone being investigated for not doing enough to stop Letby, AIUI...?

    If Letby is actually innocent, there's no case for gross negligence because she wasn't stopped.
    That's how I read that. Suggest the Old Bill aren't expecting Letby to be release any time soon. Can you imagine if they've locked up a load of others too?
    When the saga began, I wondered if it was the case that she was guilty and the unit was a scandal as well.

    The G K Chesterton story of a murderer who hid their crime by arranging battle on the same spot comes to mind.
    The gross negligence concerns here are not about the performance of the unit in clinical terms. They are about management not responding appropriately to questions being raised about Letby.
  • Leon said:

    Off on a trip at the weekend. Looking forward to it

    Partly because I have just been told the cost of the trip, WERE I paying (I am not paying)

    Somewhere between £30,000-£35,000. For a week

    If you went on perma-holiday at that rate, for ten years, the total cost would only come to a bit more than £25m.

    Which shows what a different world the super-rich inhabit.
    I have been to quite a few hotels now where the guests, other than me, are either billionaires or centimillionaires. Not mere millionaires

    Tiny but exclusive African lodges and Arctic/Pacific/Caribbean private islands etc
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,887
    https://x.com/nickcohen4/status/2047294966565626064

    "In his treatment of civil servants Sir Keir has started to resemble Idi Amin, the Ugandan dictator, at the end of “The Last King Of Scotland”. “You should have told me not to throw the Asians out, in the first place.” “I did!” shrieked the adviser. “But you did not persuade me!"
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 39,837
    edited April 23
    Very early studs up challenge on Rayner from the Telegraph. Is Britain ungovernable with any Prime Ministerial candidate not pre ordained by Chris Evans/Allister Heath, Ted Verity and GB News?

    Don't forget Truss's budget was the "most Conservative budget" since 1986. So said Chris Evans/ Allister Heath, Ted Verity and GB News.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 39,837

    https://x.com/nickcohen4/status/2047294966565626064

    "In his treatment of civil servants Sir Keir has started to resemble Idi Amin, the Ugandan dictator, at the end of “The Last King Of Scotland”. “You should have told me not to throw the Asians out, in the first place.” “I did!” shrieked the adviser. “But you did not persuade me!"

    Calm down dear.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 39,837
    Leon said:

    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    Trust me, it will surprise on the upside
    I am looking for Eadric.Byronic.Leon. I believe it is somewhere in the Primrose Hill area of London.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 37,441
    edited April 23

    Very early studs up challenge on Rayner from the Telegraph. Is Britain ungovernable with any Prime Ministerial candidate not pre ordained by Chris Evans/Allister Heath, Ted Verity and GB News?

    Don't forget Truss's budget was the "most Conservative budget" since 1986. So said Chris Evans/ Allister Heath, Ted Verity and GB News.

    I wonder if we'll soon see a change of tone at the Torygraph, given it has, or soon will have, new owners.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,612
    Why do I get the feeling Russell Brand’s barrister will be tearing out their hair?

    Russell Brand says he had ‘exploitative’ consensual sex with girl, 16, at height of his fame

    Brand, who will be tried in October over allegations of rape and sexual assault, tells podcast he slept with 16-year-old when he was 30


    Russell Brand said he had “exploitative” consensual sex with a 16-year-old girl at the height of his fame.

    The comedian, actor and podcaster, 50, will be tried in the autumn over allegations of rape and sexual assault made against him by six women. Brand denies all the charges, which date from 1999 to 2009. Speaking about his past actions in an appearance on the YouTube show of the US journalist Megyn Kelly, Brand described himself “selfish” and an “exploiter of women”.

    He said: “I did sleep with a 16-year-old when I was 30. When I was 30, I was a very different person. I was a lot younger, and I was an immature 30-year-old.”


    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/apr/23/russell-brand-says-he-had-exploitative-consensual-sex-with-girl-16-at-height-of-his-fame?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 18,486

    https://x.com/nickcohen4/status/2047294966565626064

    "In his treatment of civil servants Sir Keir has started to resemble Idi Amin, the Ugandan dictator, at the end of “The Last King Of Scotland”. “You should have told me not to throw the Asians out, in the first place.” “I did!” shrieked the adviser. “But you did not persuade me!"

    Remind me which party is actually threatening to throw up to 2 million people out of the country.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 81,143

    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    Who could have predicted What.Three.Words was a load of shite?
    Yorkshire Ambulance recommend to use it to locate people, though it doesn't seem to be any use with Yodel (Who make Evri look like a custom concierge service)
  • eekeek Posts: 33,926
    Pulpstar said:

    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    Who could have predicted What.Three.Words was a load of shite?
    Yorkshire Ambulance recommend to use it to locate people, though it doesn't seem to be any use with Yodel (Who make Evri look like a custom concierge service)
    Firm that has free access uses it, firms that would need to pay serious money to access it don’t.

    Got to say that doesn’t surprise me
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,826
    Pulpstar said:

    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    Who could have predicted What.Three.Words was a load of shite?
    Yorkshire Ambulance recommend to use it to locate people, though it doesn't seem to be any use with Yodel (Who make Evri look like a custom concierge service)
    Load.of.shit 🤣
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 81,143
    edited April 23
    eek said:

    Pulpstar said:

    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    Who could have predicted What.Three.Words was a load of shite?
    Yorkshire Ambulance recommend to use it to locate people, though it doesn't seem to be any use with Yodel (Who make Evri look like a custom concierge service)
    Firm that has free access uses it, firms that would need to pay serious money to access it don’t.

    Got to say that doesn’t surprise me
    I think anyone can go to the website and use it ?

    https://what3words.com/panning.tests.education

    Probably why they can't monetize it tbh
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,426
    Sweeney74 said:

    Leon said:

    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    Off on a trip at the weekend. Looking forward to it

    Partly because I have just been told the cost of the trip, WERE I paying (I am not paying)

    Somewhere between £30,000-£35,000. For a week

    Miami for the F1? Although for most it will be a lot more expensive than £35k.
    I've been trying to work out if it is the single most expensive week long trip I've ever taken

    Probably it is. I did the maiden voyage of the Greg Mortimer to Antarctica, with Antarctic sea kayaking led by the man who invented Antarctic sea-kayaying. That was about £20,000 back then and might be £30k now, but it's nearly two weeks

    Private helicoptering around the Whitsundays? My personal safari right across Zambia with my own little aircraft at various points? The Oberoi-only jaunt across north India?

    All insanely expensive, were I paying, but I still think this tops out. Wow
    Fair play. Nice to see someone bravely tackling the important question:
    how much money can be incinerated in seven days without technically buying anything.
    Although, vey very small beer compared to the KLF burning a million quid.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,826

    Very early studs up challenge on Rayner from the Telegraph. Is Britain ungovernable with any Prime Ministerial candidate not pre ordained by Chris Evans/Allister Heath, Ted Verity and GB News?

    Don't forget Truss's budget was the "most Conservative budget" since 1986. So said Chris Evans/ Allister Heath, Ted Verity and GB News.

    Kwasi regularly appears as a pundit on GB News, which, I have to remind everyone, I only watch for "research" purposes.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,695
    edited April 23
    Pulpstar said:

    eek said:

    Pulpstar said:

    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    Who could have predicted What.Three.Words was a load of shite?
    Yorkshire Ambulance recommend to use it to locate people, though it doesn't seem to be any use with Yodel (Who make Evri look like a custom concierge service)
    Firm that has free access uses it, firms that would need to pay serious money to access it don’t.

    Got to say that doesn’t surprise me
    I think anyone can go to the website and use it ?

    https://what3words.com/panning.tests.education

    Probably why they can't monetize it tbh
    They were presumably hoping to sell really expensive API access, if not the entire company, to a logistics company such as FedEx or UPS. But it requires people generally to know about it, and the few companies who might benefit are not interested. Everyone’s phone can give a lat/long in 15 characters, and the W3W implementation was not what you’d do now but they’re stuck with it.
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,219

    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    Who could have predicted What.Three.Words was a load of shite?
    It’s not shite. It’s a good app. Just no way to monetise it
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,272
    Sandpit said:

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    I’m not nervous yet, but there’s currently a massive wave of USAF heading East towards me!

    https://x.com/warmonitor3/status/2047294223636963514

    Is TSE on holiday at the moment?
    I start a short weekend break in exactly one week.
    OMG, the gulf is going to explode !!
    Oi!
    What's the problem. There will be more deals on 7* hotels for you.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,695
    edited April 23
    Battlebus said:

    Sandpit said:

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    Sandpit said:

    I’m not nervous yet, but there’s currently a massive wave of USAF heading East towards me!

    https://x.com/warmonitor3/status/2047294223636963514

    Is TSE on holiday at the moment?
    I start a short weekend break in exactly one week.
    OMG, the gulf is going to explode !!
    Oi!
    What's the problem. There will be more deals on 7* hotels for you.
    Haha true, but a lot of them have now brought forward refurbishments this year.

    You also don’t want to be in a landmark hotel when the bombs are still flying, you need to time your stays carefully for the ceasefire.

    Would definitely recommend Emirates Palace though, that was a totally crazy place, standing out in a country of totally crazy places. Was genuinely like staying in an actual palace for the weekend.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,826

    Sweeney74 said:

    Leon said:

    Sandpit said:

    Leon said:

    Off on a trip at the weekend. Looking forward to it

    Partly because I have just been told the cost of the trip, WERE I paying (I am not paying)

    Somewhere between £30,000-£35,000. For a week

    Miami for the F1? Although for most it will be a lot more expensive than £35k.
    I've been trying to work out if it is the single most expensive week long trip I've ever taken

    Probably it is. I did the maiden voyage of the Greg Mortimer to Antarctica, with Antarctic sea kayaking led by the man who invented Antarctic sea-kayaying. That was about £20,000 back then and might be £30k now, but it's nearly two weeks

    Private helicoptering around the Whitsundays? My personal safari right across Zambia with my own little aircraft at various points? The Oberoi-only jaunt across north India?

    All insanely expensive, were I paying, but I still think this tops out. Wow
    Fair play. Nice to see someone bravely tackling the important question:
    how much money can be incinerated in seven days without technically buying anything.
    Although, vey very small beer compared to the KLF burning a million quid.
    "It's not about the money, it's about sending a message - everything burns!"
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,038
    Pulpstar said:

    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    Who could have predicted What.Three.Words was a load of shite?
    Yorkshire Ambulance recommend to use it to locate people, though it doesn't seem to be any use with Yodel (Who make Evri look like a custom concierge service)
    Amazon won't use it either. The big issue is one letter wrong and you're f*cked: many.miles.sway = Anchorage Alaska; many miles.away = Zimbabwe.
  • How did you all discover Pb in the first place?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,038

    How did you all discover Pb in the first place?

    I found it on the internet.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,426
    edited April 23
    Pulpstar said:

    eek said:

    Pulpstar said:

    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    Who could have predicted What.Three.Words was a load of shite?
    Yorkshire Ambulance recommend to use it to locate people, though it doesn't seem to be any use with Yodel (Who make Evri look like a custom concierge service)
    Firm that has free access uses it, firms that would need to pay serious money to access it don’t.

    Got to say that doesn’t surprise me
    I think anyone can go to the website and use it ?

    https://what3words.com/panning.tests.education

    Probably why they can't monetize it tbh
    If they'd charged a quid, people would have paid that.

    But there does need to be some check that it is the correct formulation of the three words and not in Zimbabwe. Maybe with a bit of thought there could have been a country code - or even what 4 words with the country as word one? That would then flag up any errors.

    It really needed a military application - to drop a bomb on the what three words location.

  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,038
    Taz said:

    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    Who could have predicted What.Three.Words was a load of shite?
    It’s not shite. It’s a good app. Just no way to monetise it
    No, I'm afraid it's a crapp
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,887
    Shots fired.

    https://x.com/AvaSantina/status/2047330887323295928

    NEW: Sadiq Khan tells me he would never have appointed Peter Mandelson.

    “It’s been an omnishambles start to finish.

    “Park for a second any distress to the offence caused to any victim of Epstein…it’s clear his business interests were of concern.”
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,695
    Just in case anyone was thinking the Democrats are going to win 100 seats in the mid-terms, this is their new young activist, Hasan Piker. He thinks we should be stealing from supermarkets and looting art galleries, and that the healthcare executive murdered in cold blood last year was a justified homicide.

    https://x.com/lydiamoynihan/status/2047051163728506997
    https://x.com/piratewires/status/2047027303306363352
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,247

    Pulpstar said:

    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    Who could have predicted What.Three.Words was a load of shite?
    Yorkshire Ambulance recommend to use it to locate people, though it doesn't seem to be any use with Yodel (Who make Evri look like a custom concierge service)
    Amazon won't use it either. The big issue is one letter wrong and you're f*cked: many.miles.sway = Anchorage Alaska; many miles.away = Zimbabwe.
    That's not so much of a problem, because if you know you're delivering something in Alaska, you'll know there's a mistake if it gives you a location in Zimbabwe.

    The problem is when it gives you a location that's only ~50 miles wrong. That's very plausible as a result and so you don't question it.

    The problems with their implementation (three words from a largeish word set, including plurals) is that it's not as good as the implementation of the guy whose idea they stole (five words from a smaller word set that was more carefully chosen to exclude homophones and plurals).

    But they got to market first so a better implementation is harder to get off the ground.

    And then, of course, if you can copy and paste the latitude and longitude into a text message, you don't need it anyway.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,247

    How did you all discover Pb in the first place?

    I think there might have been a reference to it in the Guardian.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,562

    Pulpstar said:

    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    Who could have predicted What.Three.Words was a load of shite?
    Yorkshire Ambulance recommend to use it to locate people, though it doesn't seem to be any use with Yodel (Who make Evri look like a custom concierge service)
    Amazon won't use it either. The big issue is one letter wrong and you're f*cked: many.miles.sway = Anchorage Alaska; many miles.away = Zimbabwe.
    Which goes back to what a number of people pointed out at the start.

    They are using a version of what used to be called Telegraph Codes. These were used to reduce the size of commercial telegrams more than for secrecy - telegrams were expensive and charged per word.

    Such codes rapidly ran into problems with errors due to words/letters misheard, written down etc.

    So a whole raft of techniques were created to build checksums into the coding and prevent such errors causing problems.

    But the Three Words people didn’t know about the basics of this stuff.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 56,882
    Sandpit said:

    Just in case anyone was thinking the Democrats are going to win 100 seats in the mid-terms, this is their new young activist, Hasan Piker. He thinks we should be stealing from supermarkets and looting art galleries, and that the healthcare executive murdered in cold blood last year was a justified homicide.

    https://x.com/lydiamoynihan/status/2047051163728506997
    https://x.com/piratewires/status/2047027303306363352

    Which seat is he running in?

    Or is he just a clickbait activist?
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 13,456
    Sandpit said:

    tlg86 said:

    https://x.com/TheMillwallFans/status/2047264927753142491

    Millwall Supporters’ Club @TheMillwallFans Message from @MillwallFC

    The club has received a full apology from Westminster Council following their serious misuse of a registered club badge, which was placed on an illustration of a white supremacist hate group member in a children's education booklet distributed in schools, creating a false and damaging image of the club.

    The council have confirmed no more copies of the image with the club's logo will be made or distributed by them and all remaining material in their possession will be destroyed.

    The club is still considering its legal position on the matter and are unable to comment further.


    See here for the image....

    https://x.com/EnolaJon/status/2047287639884054773

    The local council depicting “Millwall fans” as generically racist, is surely defamation, even if the club has a long history of having to deal with some unsavoury elements among their support?

    The club will argue that they’re making a huge effort to confront racism, and point to a number of stadium bans and withdrawn memberships in recent years.
    I think probably not - it’s a specific player telling his story (from 40 years ago). The badge placement (and who the hell thought that was a good idea) is original creation by them
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,695
    Foxy said:

    Sandpit said:

    Just in case anyone was thinking the Democrats are going to win 100 seats in the mid-terms, this is their new young activist, Hasan Piker. He thinks we should be stealing from supermarkets and looting art galleries, and that the healthcare executive murdered in cold blood last year was a justified homicide.

    https://x.com/lydiamoynihan/status/2047051163728506997
    https://x.com/piratewires/status/2047027303306363352

    Which seat is he running in?

    Or is he just a clickbait activist?
    NY Times commentator, I don’t think he’s running anywhere - yet.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/22/opinion/shoplifting-political-protest-microlooting-whole-foods.html
    “The rich don’t play by the rules, so why should I?”
  • isamisam Posts: 44,230
    edited April 23


    Three migrants, who illegally entered Britain on small boats, have been convicted of gang raping a woman on Brighton beach.

    Iranian-born Abdulla Ahmadi, 26, and Egyptians Karin Al-Danasurt, 20, and Ibrahim Alshafe, 25, attacked the woman in the early hours of October 4 last year.



    https://www.thetimes.com/article/bfa4e8f2-d42b-46a2-bba4-1414cdd41caf?shareToken=bba200ff47d6dd75ed85c77926177d88
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,695

    Pulpstar said:

    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    Who could have predicted What.Three.Words was a load of shite?
    Yorkshire Ambulance recommend to use it to locate people, though it doesn't seem to be any use with Yodel (Who make Evri look like a custom concierge service)
    Amazon won't use it either. The big issue is one letter wrong and you're f*cked: many.miles.sway = Anchorage Alaska; many miles.away = Zimbabwe.
    Which goes back to what a number of people pointed out at the start.

    They are using a version of what used to be called Telegraph Codes. These were used to reduce the size of commercial telegrams more than for secrecy - telegrams were expensive and charged per word.

    Such codes rapidly ran into problems with errors due to words/letters misheard, written down etc.

    So a whole raft of techniques were created to build checksums into the coding and prevent such errors causing problems.

    But the Three Words people didn’t know about the basics of this stuff.
    A theoretically brilliant idea, terribly implemented.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 24,247

    How did you all discover Pb in the first place?

    I think there might have been a reference to it in the Guardian.
    Here is a reference to Mike Smithson and politicalbetting.com in May 2004 (from the Observer).

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2004/may/23/foodanddrink.london

    Maybe there was a different reference in 2004 that I followed, but it was definitely in 2004, and from the Guardian or the Observer.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 13,456

    What3words running a secondary sale in an 80% down round is absolutely criminal This company has burned through hundreds of millions of dollars and in the last year generated £2m of revenue. It's doing a crowdfund and a secondary sale valuing the company at £50m way down from its heights. £50m on £2m of revenue for a company that is 11 years old is still massively over valued.

    https://x.com/SebJohnsonUK/status/2047298147102142614?s=20

    @Leon ’s favourite going down?
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,571

    How did you all discover Pb in the first place?

    It was 2005 for me. Just after the GE, the MP for Cheadle died: a by-election was in the offing, and for the first time that I could remember a by-election about somewhere I knew quite well. I was finding the MSM frustratingly uninterested, and I hunted on the internet for more information about he Cheadle by-election. And this site came up – I think there was probably a live thread about it on the day. I was engrossed straight away. I had always been a bit of an elections nerd to a much greater extent than anyone I knew IRL, and here were lots of people who shared my interest without, in most cases, falling out about it. And look, here was my MP. And here was a side conversation about cheese. And, back on topic, a really, really detailed conversation about the electoral preferences of different areas of the Cheadle constituency. And 90% of people managed to discuss things entirely cordially. There was the odd aggressive character but the perma-furious were drowned out by the civil.
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,726

    How did you all discover Pb in the first place?

    Doom-clicking at some point in the first half of 2009.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,887
    Foxy said:

    Sandpit said:

    Just in case anyone was thinking the Democrats are going to win 100 seats in the mid-terms, this is their new young activist, Hasan Piker. He thinks we should be stealing from supermarkets and looting art galleries, and that the healthcare executive murdered in cold blood last year was a justified homicide.

    https://x.com/lydiamoynihan/status/2047051163728506997
    https://x.com/piratewires/status/2047027303306363352

    Which seat is he running in?

    Or is he just a clickbait activist?
    He's more significant than that and had been promoted as the Joe Rogan of the left by some Democratic strategists.

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/hasan-piker-will-never-be-the-democrats-joe-rogan/
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,726
    edited April 23
    Sandpit said:

    Foxy said:

    Sandpit said:

    Just in case anyone was thinking the Democrats are going to win 100 seats in the mid-terms, this is their new young activist, Hasan Piker. He thinks we should be stealing from supermarkets and looting art galleries, and that the healthcare executive murdered in cold blood last year was a justified homicide.

    https://x.com/lydiamoynihan/status/2047051163728506997
    https://x.com/piratewires/status/2047027303306363352

    Which seat is he running in?

    Or is he just a clickbait activist?
    NY Times commentator, I don’t think he’s running anywhere - yet.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/22/opinion/shoplifting-political-protest-microlooting-whole-foods.html
    “The rich don’t play by the rules, so why should I?”
    That wasn't the opinion the NYT held when they went after 12ft.io for breaking the paywall.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 61,695
    edited April 23

    Foxy said:

    Sandpit said:

    Just in case anyone was thinking the Democrats are going to win 100 seats in the mid-terms, this is their new young activist, Hasan Piker. He thinks we should be stealing from supermarkets and looting art galleries, and that the healthcare executive murdered in cold blood last year was a justified homicide.

    https://x.com/lydiamoynihan/status/2047051163728506997
    https://x.com/piratewires/status/2047027303306363352

    Which seat is he running in?

    Or is he just a clickbait activist?
    He's more significant than that and had been promoted as the Joe Rogan of the left by some Democratic strategists.

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/hasan-piker-will-never-be-the-democrats-joe-rogan/
    The “Joe Rogan of the Left” commentary is hilarious.

    They had a Joe Rogan of the left, he was called Joe Rogan. Then the left went mad over open borders, covid lockdowns, and men in women’s sports.

    Even funnier is the idea that the left needs to manufacture their own “Joe Rogan”, because they require their person to be totally on point with every message, rather than having an opinion of their own outside today’s groupthink. And they need them up and running before the mid-terms.

    Rogan happened organically, he was just a comic in his house talking crap with other comics for about five years before he made any money at it.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 56,882

    Foxy said:

    Sandpit said:

    Just in case anyone was thinking the Democrats are going to win 100 seats in the mid-terms, this is their new young activist, Hasan Piker. He thinks we should be stealing from supermarkets and looting art galleries, and that the healthcare executive murdered in cold blood last year was a justified homicide.

    https://x.com/lydiamoynihan/status/2047051163728506997
    https://x.com/piratewires/status/2047027303306363352

    Which seat is he running in?

    Or is he just a clickbait activist?
    He's more significant than that and had been promoted as the Joe Rogan of the left by some Democratic strategists.

    https://unherd.com/newsroom/hasan-piker-will-never-be-the-democrats-joe-rogan/
    So, a successful clickbait activist?
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