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Support for Britain becoming a republic grows – politicalbetting.com

Our latest tracker data shows that 64% of Britons support keeping the monarchyShould continue to have monarchy: 64% (no change from Jan)Should have elected head of state: 24% (+1)yougov.com/en-gb/articl…

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  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,704
    First unlike Charles who is last
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,038
    Lol - winding up @HYUFD yet again?!
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,038

    First unlike Charles who is last

    Sadly, I doubt it.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,514
    Well, he’s using his lawyerly something.

    I mean, he’s not as idiotic as general counsel to Wonble Bond Dickinson who famously accidentally described himself as a liar, a bully and ignorant of legal procedures by comparing himself to them, but he’s still not come out of it well.
  • Yeah maybe not a good idea to wind HYUFD up, he's already having trouble reading the room.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,612

    Lol - winding up @HYUFD yet again?!

    This thread is about Sir Keir Starmer.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,514

    First unlike Charles who is last

    Sadly, I doubt it.
    Where there’s a will there’s a monarchy.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,612
    ydoethur said:

    Well, he’s using his lawyerly something.

    I mean, he’s not as idiotic as general counsel to Wonble Bond Dickinson who famously accidentally described himself as a liar, a bully and ignorant of legal procedures by comparing himself to them, but he’s still not come out of it well.

    Oh God, I've used that tautology of 'lawyerly brilliance' again.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 72,204
    edited April 21
    Maybe add to @HYUFD wind up by saying Scotland and Wales with independence first ministers then only England left for the fading monarchy
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,376
    YouGov have got a London boroughs MRP out tomorrow morning which i think is the first London polling of the LE campaign as opposed to projections etc
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 37,038
    edited April 21
    Deleted - must read the thread before commenting
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,514

    https://x.com/WarMonitor3/status/2046670696844087447

    So every major figure of the Trump administration have just gathered at the White House for an unplanned meeting...

    Something is happening for sure.

    Would be nice to think the spineless cretins are finally going to try and invoke the 25th.

    But I suspect they’re just planning to resume bombing Iran.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 91,961
    ydoethur said:

    https://x.com/WarMonitor3/status/2046670696844087447

    So every major figure of the Trump administration have just gathered at the White House for an unplanned meeting...

    Something is happening for sure.

    Would be nice to think the spineless cretins are finally going to try and invoke the 25th.

    But I suspect they’re just planning to resume bombing Iran.
    Some pizza shop in Washington going to be getting some big orders?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,514
    edited April 21

    ydoethur said:

    https://x.com/WarMonitor3/status/2046670696844087447

    So every major figure of the Trump administration have just gathered at the White House for an unplanned meeting...

    Something is happening for sure.

    Would be nice to think the spineless cretins are finally going to try and invoke the 25th.

    But I suspect they’re just planning to resume bombing Iran.
    Some pizza shop in Washington going to be getting some big orders?
    With extra pineapple for Vance and lemon chicken for Hegseth?

    I was going to put Trump there, but so far despite the increasingly detachment from reality in his assessments of what’s happening he hasn’t actually chickened out.

    Which tells me there’s something really terrible in the Epstein files he’s absolutely desperate to hide.

    Or, he thinks there is.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,851
    ydoethur said:

    https://x.com/WarMonitor3/status/2046670696844087447

    So every major figure of the Trump administration have just gathered at the White House for an unplanned meeting...

    Something is happening for sure.

    Would be nice to think the spineless cretins are finally going to try and invoke the 25th.

    But I suspect they’re just planning to resume bombing Iran.
    Maybe they're waving Vance off on a guard of honour to the peace talks.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,150

    Yeah maybe not a good idea to wind HYUFD up, he's already having trouble reading the room.

    Though not as badly as Fairliered who probably shouldn't be allowed to drive.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,826
    NO KINGS!
  • Lawyerly briliance??!
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,035
    So Iran has called Trump’s bluff lol
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,219
    An elected head of state.

    President Starmer has a ring to it.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,612
    Leon said:

    Lawyerly briliance??!

    Yes, I know, it's a horrible tautology.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,514
    edited April 21

    Maybe add to @HYUFD wind up by saying Scotland and Wales with independence first ministers then only England left for the fading monarchy

    Although Salmond wanted to keep the monarchy, I think?

    With Wales of course it is different. Although Charles does speak Welsh and has lived in Wales, the first Prince of Wales to do so since 1409, the actual heir to the Welsh throne is - of all slightly unlikely people - Peter Scudamore. And I don’t somehow think he would be pressing his claim to it.
  • Dopermean said:

    Yeah maybe not a good idea to wind HYUFD up, he's already having trouble reading the room.

    Though not as badly as Fairliered who probably shouldn't be allowed to drive.
    Sshhh, maybe if nobody looks back at the old thread then it will be as if he hadn't embarrassed himself at all.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,851
    Leon said:

    Lawyerly briliance??!

    As opposed to brilliantly lawyerly.
  • ydoethur said:

    https://x.com/WarMonitor3/status/2046670696844087447

    So every major figure of the Trump administration have just gathered at the White House for an unplanned meeting...

    Something is happening for sure.

    Would be nice to think the spineless cretins are finally going to try and invoke the 25th.

    But I suspect they’re just planning to resume bombing Iran.
    Some pizza shop in Washington going to be getting some big orders?
    And one small order: 3 inch mushroom, cheesy crust ?
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,150
    Dopermean said:

    Yeah maybe not a good idea to wind HYUFD up, he's already having trouble reading the room.

    Though not as badly as Fairliered who probably shouldn't be allowed to drive.
    Actually checking back on the last thread I must apologise to HYUFD for giving him the benefit of the doubt.
    How dare people spend their Sunday mornings in a quiet leisurely pursuit when he's in a desperate rush to get down on his knees in front of the vicar.
    I have no statistics but I'm certain that cyclists have killed far fewer people than christians.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 9,255
    edited April 21
    ydoethur said:

    Deleted - must read the thread before commenting

    Please put it back, pronto, before you set a very dangerous precedent that would utterly destroy PB.
    Imagine having to read the thread header and the thread to comment? One shudders to think.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 22,884
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Well, he’s using his lawyerly something.

    I mean, he’s not as idiotic as general counsel to Wonble Bond Dickinson who famously accidentally described himself as a liar, a bully and ignorant of legal procedures by comparing himself to them, but he’s still not come out of it well.

    Oh God, I've used that tautology of 'lawyerly brilliance' again.
    Really, Mr Eagles, even though Cambridge University’s faculty of English famously trains people who are functionally illiterate, you were in the History faculty. Surely you know the difference between a tautology and an oxymoron?
    Everyone knows that.

    As a scientist, I taught ologies.

    And an oxymoron is someone who stupidly messes up combustion experiments.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,826

    ydoethur said:

    Well, he’s using his lawyerly something.

    I mean, he’s not as idiotic as general counsel to Wonble Bond Dickinson who famously accidentally described himself as a liar, a bully and ignorant of legal procedures by comparing himself to them, but he’s still not come out of it well.

    Oh God, I've used that tautology of 'lawyerly brilliance' again.
    You're good, Yorkshireman, but you're not THAT good. You could be magnificent!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,938
    Thankfully TSE's absurd header is in fact just a means to show how factual statements can be misleading as Starmer has shown. Support for the monarchy remains unchanged, support for a Republic is up 1% to 24%, a level still 8% below even the 32% Corbyn Labour got in 2019 despite all of Andrew's goings on.

    In fact even 18 to 24 year olds by a 7% margin prefer keeping the monarchy to a republic, despite a plurality of them voting Green.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 61,142

    Deleted - must read the thread before commenting

    Where’s the fun in that?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 63,562
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Well, he’s using his lawyerly something.

    I mean, he’s not as idiotic as general counsel to Wonble Bond Dickinson who famously accidentally described himself as a liar, a bully and ignorant of legal procedures by comparing himself to them, but he’s still not come out of it well.

    Oh God, I've used that tautology of 'lawyerly brilliance' again.
    Really, Mr Eagles, even though Cambridge University’s faculty of English famously trains people who are functionally illiterate, you were in the History faculty. Surely you know the difference between a tautology and an oxymoron?
    It's Cambridge - тавтология and оксюморон shirley?
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 3,272
    Bring back Tanistry.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,938
    Dopermean said:

    Dopermean said:

    Yeah maybe not a good idea to wind HYUFD up, he's already having trouble reading the room.

    Though not as badly as Fairliered who probably shouldn't be allowed to drive.
    Actually checking back on the last thread I must apologise to HYUFD for giving him the benefit of the doubt.
    How dare people spend their Sunday mornings in a quiet leisurely pursuit when he's in a desperate rush to get down on his knees in front of the vicar.
    I have no statistics but I'm certain that cyclists have killed far fewer people than christians.
    Christians who kill with intent can be prosecuted for murder or who kill by dangerous driving can be prosecuted with up to life imprisonment.

    Cyclists who kill pedestrians riding dangerously at most can get 2 years custody
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,826
    edited April 21
    Dopermean said:

    Dopermean said:

    Yeah maybe not a good idea to wind HYUFD up, he's already having trouble reading the room.

    Though not as badly as Fairliered who probably shouldn't be allowed to drive.
    Actually checking back on the last thread I must apologise to HYUFD for giving him the benefit of the doubt.
    How dare people spend their Sunday mornings in a quiet leisurely pursuit when he's in a desperate rush to get down on his knees in front of the vicar.
    I have no statistics but I'm certain that cyclists have killed far fewer people than christians.
    Fucking cyclists keep running red lights in London, though, even at pedestrian crossings.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,661
    Brent crude back over $100. The frogs - that's us - are being boiled.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,552
    edited April 21
    Following up @Cookie 's post from earlier, it's a fairly notorious junction with the angles being such that the main-road to more-minor-road route can be "straight-lined" at speed.

    It's the second one there in a few years - in 2020 a dad of three was killed by a retired lorry driver who said he was "driving slowly and carefully" but was "blinded by the sun" so did not see the cyclist.

    So to me this raises 2 questions - firstly the road design, and secondly the driver continuing education. The latter is being somewhat addressed in the current Bill coming up in Parliament.

    So I think there will be pressure for that junction to be properly redesigned taking all road users into account, perhaps as a T rather than a "grass triangle Y" layout. What it probably wants is a good quality sealed surface alternative route for cyclists and pedestrians usable year round avoiding the junction entirely.

    The MEN report: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/stretford-grammar-michael-mullins-headteacher-33810433
    The other report:https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/driver-who-killed-dad-three-21061140

    Another tribute from the Walk-Ride GM Discord server::

    There is so much love for him on the school WhatsApps, he was so caring about the kids and their well-being and so passionate about active travel. I cried when I went past Longford Park today and remembered him crossing all the kids over at the crossing. When I met him for work he told me how often he was out there ensuring their safety. He was a big part of why we chose that school for our daughter. All day after we had a letter from school to say he had died in an accident I was hoping that it wasn’t while he was on his bike. Such a huge loss and so senseless.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,826
    HYUFD said:

    Thankfully TSE's absurd header is in fact just a means to show how factual statements can be misleading as Starmer has shown. Support for the monarchy remains unchanged, support for a Republic is up 1% to 24%, a level still 8% below even the 32% Corbyn Labour got in 2019 despite all of Andrew's goings on.

    Why do you think all republicans supported Corbyn in 2019? I voted Tory!
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 22,035
    Trump extends the ceasefire again. Iran just sees this as weakness, weakness, weakness.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,938
    edited April 21

    Maybe add to @HYUFD wind up by saying Scotland and Wales with independence first ministers then only England left for the fading monarchy

    On the latest Holyrood poll a Unionist majority is projected, on the latest Senedd poll Reform are now tied with Plaid for first.

    The monarchy meanwhile remains as strong as ever and of course if anything the monarchy is more Scottish than English, descending from the Scottish Stuarts and James VI once his cousin English Elizabeth 1st died and Elizabeth's grandfather was of course Henry of the Welsh Tudors before he became Henry VII
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,887
    Miliband's media round wasn't very helpful for Starmer:

    https://x.com/RidgeandFrost/status/2046476698057580819

    🗣️ Ed Miliband: "I steered well clear of Mandelson when I became Labour leader in 2010."

    He tells @SophyRidgeSky both he and David Lammy were "worried" about Peter Mandelson's appointment to be UK ambassador to the U.S.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,938
    edited April 21

    HYUFD said:

    Thankfully TSE's absurd header is in fact just a means to show how factual statements can be misleading as Starmer has shown. Support for the monarchy remains unchanged, support for a Republic is up 1% to 24%, a level still 8% below even the 32% Corbyn Labour got in 2019 despite all of Andrew's goings on.

    Why do you think all republicans supported Corbyn in 2019? I voted Tory!
    93% of Tory voters want to keep the monarchy on the new Yougov. Greens are the most republican but even they are 42% for monarchy, 39% a republic

    https://ygo-assets-websites-editorial-emea.yougov.net/documents/Internal_RoyalsTrackers_260414_w.pdf

    On another note, LDs and Labour voters still give King Charles higher favourables than Reform voters, 64% and 57% to 55% respectively even if Tories still most keen on the King at 83% positive.

    With Prince William that is reversed, he has an 87% favourable rating from Reform voters compared to 78% from Labour voters and 73% from LDs (albeit William is still more popular with all of those parties voters than the King is)
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,887
    FF43 said:

    Brent crude back over $100. The frogs - that's us - are being boiled.

    Trump's done more to stop oil than Greta Thunberg.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,397

    FF43 said:

    Brent crude back over $100. The frogs - that's us - are being boiled.

    Trump's done more to stop oil than Greta Thunberg.

    Niall Ferguson
    @nfergus
    Let me walk you through the events of the war so far:

    1. The United States and Israel tried regime change; it didn’t work. Or rather, they got regime change—Iran became an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps–led military dictatorship. That was not an improvement.

    ...


    the final compromise will take longer to be agreed upon than Mr. Market currently believes.


    https://x.com/nfergus/status/2046678480512057346
  • Sympathies to @cookie and Co and everyone at that school, and the poor guy's family

    We are not here long
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,397

    Miliband's media round wasn't very helpful for Starmer:

    https://x.com/RidgeandFrost/status/2046476698057580819

    🗣️ Ed Miliband: "I steered well clear of Mandelson when I became Labour leader in 2010."

    He tells @SophyRidgeSky both he and David Lammy were "worried" about Peter Mandelson's appointment to be UK ambassador to the U.S.

    Starmer tried to get him removed from Energy/climate job he loves and believes will be his legacy because McSweeney said so.

    No surprise Ed doesn't throw the drowning man any kind of life bouy.

  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,327
    He’s extended the ceasefire indefinitely!

    Looks like Trump bent over and got banged mercilessly by the Mullahs , and is now making out as if he isn’t a gimp !

  • Something more cheerful (at least for me, I love this kind of thing)

    Turns out the extent of the Ice Age ice sheet in 11,000 BC roughly maaps the Elizabethan Protestant Plantation of Ireland and, therefore, the six counties of Northern Ireland and the "UK in Ireland", today


    https://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/maps/historical/ice_age.gif
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,397

    Trump extends the ceasefire again. Iran just sees this as weakness, weakness, weakness.

    It's TACO Tuesday.

    This is like fucking Ground Hog Day but with mad people in charge.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,628

    Trump extends the ceasefire again. Iran just sees this as weakness, weakness, weakness.

    Who do you think would come out top between the 'author' of The Art of the Deal and a Persian carpet seller in the bazaar?

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,612
    I've been busy for most of the afternoon and evening.

    Did today's debate see Kemi Badenoch make any headway or did Kinnock/Westland it again?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,397
    This morning Trump was telling media he was basically going to bomb Iran back in to the Stone Age yet again.

    Now he is proposing an indefinite ceasefire.

    Stable Genius my arse as Jim Royale would have said.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 8,263
    geoffw said:

    Trump extends the ceasefire again. Iran just sees this as weakness, weakness, weakness.

    Who do you think would come out top between the 'author' of The Art of the Deal and a Persian carpet seller in the bazaar?

    I bet Trump wouldn't even get a glass of tea out of the deal
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,851

    This morning Trump was telling media he was basically going to bomb Iran back in to the Stone Age yet again.

    Now he is proposing an indefinite ceasefire.

    Stable Genius my arse as Jim Royale would have said.

    I suppose that's what happens if they won't give you the nuke codes, you just get a bit bored and call it all off.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,612
    I tell you is having a worse few days than Sir Keir Starmer.

    The people at Chelsea who gave Liam Rosenior a six year contract.
  • HYUFD said:

    Thankfully TSE's absurd header is in fact just a means to show how factual statements can be misleading as Starmer has shown. Support for the monarchy remains unchanged, support for a Republic is up 1% to 24%, a level still 8% below even the 32% Corbyn Labour got in 2019 despite all of Andrew's goings on.

    In fact even 18 to 24 year olds by a 7% margin prefer keeping the monarchy to a republic, despite a plurality of them voting Green.

    You can rest easy, @HYUFD, the monarchy is going nowhere

    1. If it can survive a monstrous wanker like Andrew it can pretty much survive anything

    Why? Because

    2. In an ever changing and often distressing world, people see it as a source of consoling continuity. The King is in Buck House, life goes on

    This is a natural human urge, to look to the ongoing family as a comfort. The Royal Family is the National Family. We rejoice at the births and lament the deaths, and it binds us together. It has a kind of genius. And, note how many monarchies are in the top 20 nations by wealth per capita, it is about half or more, despite the supposed anachronism of the institution
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,826

    I've been busy for most of the afternoon and evening.

    Who was the lucky lady?
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,542

    This morning Trump was telling media he was basically going to bomb Iran back in to the Stone Age yet again.

    Now he is proposing an indefinite ceasefire.

    Stable Genius my arse as Jim Royale would have said.

    I suppose that's what happens if they won't give you the nuke codes, you just get a bit bored and call it all off.
    Omg, I hope someone on his staff has a bullet in his gun for Trump if he ever gets near the nuclear football.
  • Ed has done a deal with Burnham. As has Rayner.

    They are all going to wait until Burnham is in Parliament.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 59,887

    Trump extends the ceasefire again. Iran just sees this as weakness, weakness, weakness.

    It's TACO Tuesday.

    This is like fucking Ground Hog Day but with mad people in charge.
    He's also announced a continuation of the blockade.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 58,949
    nico67 said:

    He’s extended the ceasefire indefinitely!

    Looks like Trump bent over and got banged mercilessly by the Mullahs , and is now making out as if he isn’t a gimp !

    It's a classic TACO. But we must all just breathe a sigh of relief (and let the futures traders count their winnings).
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,327

    Ed has done a deal with Burnham. As has Rayner.

    They are all going to wait until Burnham is in Parliament.

    There’s no guarantee at this time Labour could win a by-election unless it’s in London so not sure this plan is watertight .
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,628
    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thankfully TSE's absurd header is in fact just a means to show how factual statements can be misleading as Starmer has shown. Support for the monarchy remains unchanged, support for a Republic is up 1% to 24%, a level still 8% below even the 32% Corbyn Labour got in 2019 despite all of Andrew's goings on.

    In fact even 18 to 24 year olds by a 7% margin prefer keeping the monarchy to a republic, despite a plurality of them voting Green.

    You can rest easy, @HYUFD, the monarchy is going nowhere

    1. If it can survive a monstrous wanker like Andrew it can pretty much survive anything

    Why? Because

    2. In an ever changing and often distressing world, people see it as a source of consoling continuity. The King is in Buck House, life goes on

    This is a natural human urge, to look to the ongoing family as a comfort. The Royal Family is the National Family. We rejoice at the births and lament the deaths, and it binds us together. It has a kind of genius. And, note how many monarchies are in the top 20 nations by wealth per capita, it is about half or more, despite the supposed anachronism of the institution
    And had she lived she could have sent herself a 100th birthday telegram today.
    Shades of Fats Waller sitting right down to write himself a letter ..

  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 3,150

    Dopermean said:

    Dopermean said:

    Yeah maybe not a good idea to wind HYUFD up, he's already having trouble reading the room.

    Though not as badly as Fairliered who probably shouldn't be allowed to drive.
    Actually checking back on the last thread I must apologise to HYUFD for giving him the benefit of the doubt.
    How dare people spend their Sunday mornings in a quiet leisurely pursuit when he's in a desperate rush to get down on his knees in front of the vicar.
    I have no statistics but I'm certain that cyclists have killed far fewer people than christians.
    Fucking cyclists keep running red lights in London, though, even at pedestrian crossings.
    But they injure very few people, unlike drivers, who also speed, run red lights, don't understand zebra crossings.
    Pedestrian fatalities 2020-24 Table 3 https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-pedestrian-factsheet-2024/reported-road-casualties-in-great-britain-pedestrian-factsheet-2024#pedestrian-traffic-and-reported-casualties

    9 of 1906 in collision with a cyclist, 1047 in collision with a car driver.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 58,949

    Trump extends the ceasefire again. Iran just sees this as weakness, weakness, weakness.

    It's TACO Tuesday.

    This is like fucking Ground Hog Day but with mad people in charge.
    He's also announced a continuation of the blockade.
    So Iran will break the ceasefire because they regard the blockade as a breach (which, of course, it is). So it will be all their fault. Where are those nuclear codes again?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,397
    Trump blinked. Yet again.

  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,851
    DavidL said:

    nico67 said:

    He’s extended the ceasefire indefinitely!

    Looks like Trump bent over and got banged mercilessly by the Mullahs , and is now making out as if he isn’t a gimp !

    It's a classic TACO. But we must all just breathe a sigh of relief (and let the futures traders count their winnings).
    So do we do a sweepstake on how many days it is again before he's Truth Socialing that it's time to take out the power plants and bridges?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 58,949

    DavidL said:

    nico67 said:

    He’s extended the ceasefire indefinitely!

    Looks like Trump bent over and got banged mercilessly by the Mullahs , and is now making out as if he isn’t a gimp !

    It's a classic TACO. But we must all just breathe a sigh of relief (and let the futures traders count their winnings).
    So do we do a sweepstake on how many days it is again before he's Truth Socialing that it's time to take out the power plants and bridges?
    I'll go for 2 in an uncharacteristic wave of optimism.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 59,826
    Leon said:

    Something more cheerful (at least for me, I love this kind of thing)

    Turns out the extent of the Ice Age ice sheet in 11,000 BC roughly maaps the Elizabethan Protestant Plantation of Ireland and, therefore, the six counties of Northern Ireland and the "UK in Ireland", today


    https://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/maps/historical/ice_age.gif

    The Sunda Shelf would have had a Mediterranean climate in 11,000 BC.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,397
    nico67 said:

    Ed has done a deal with Burnham. As has Rayner.

    They are all going to wait until Burnham is in Parliament.

    There’s no guarantee at this time Labour could win a by-election unless it’s in London so not sure this plan is watertight .
    No plan is ever watertight. As Mike Tyson famously said etc.

    As I posted a week ago my deep union/labour mole says it will defo be Burnham who emerges as leader.

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 103,818

    This morning Trump was telling media he was basically going to bomb Iran back in to the Stone Age yet again.

    Now he is proposing an indefinite ceasefire.

    Stable Genius my arse as Jim Royale would have said.

    And the media lap it up.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,938
    Dopermean said:

    Dopermean said:

    Dopermean said:

    Yeah maybe not a good idea to wind HYUFD up, he's already having trouble reading the room.

    Though not as badly as Fairliered who probably shouldn't be allowed to drive.
    Actually checking back on the last thread I must apologise to HYUFD for giving him the benefit of the doubt.
    How dare people spend their Sunday mornings in a quiet leisurely pursuit when he's in a desperate rush to get down on his knees in front of the vicar.
    I have no statistics but I'm certain that cyclists have killed far fewer people than christians.
    Fucking cyclists keep running red lights in London, though, even at pedestrian crossings.
    But they injure very few people, unlike drivers, who also speed, run red lights, don't understand zebra crossings.
    Pedestrian fatalities 2020-24 Table 3 https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-pedestrian-factsheet-2024/reported-road-casualties-in-great-britain-pedestrian-factsheet-2024#pedestrian-traffic-and-reported-casualties

    9 of 1906 in collision with a cyclist, 1047 in collision with a car driver.
    Those car drivers who caused the 1047 can face a maximum life imprisonment though if driving dangerously when they killed, those 9 cyclists who killed pedestrians can get only a maximum 2 years in prison
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,397

    Trump extends the ceasefire again. Iran just sees this as weakness, weakness, weakness.

    It's TACO Tuesday.

    This is like fucking Ground Hog Day but with mad people in charge.
    He's also announced a continuation of the blockade.
    Yeh, great. That'll get them to the table.

    What time is his warm milk and cookie due from nursey?

  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    edited April 21
    geoffw said:

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thankfully TSE's absurd header is in fact just a means to show how factual statements can be misleading as Starmer has shown. Support for the monarchy remains unchanged, support for a Republic is up 1% to 24%, a level still 8% below even the 32% Corbyn Labour got in 2019 despite all of Andrew's goings on.

    In fact even 18 to 24 year olds by a 7% margin prefer keeping the monarchy to a republic, despite a plurality of them voting Green.

    You can rest easy, @HYUFD, the monarchy is going nowhere

    1. If it can survive a monstrous wanker like Andrew it can pretty much survive anything

    Why? Because

    2. In an ever changing and often distressing world, people see it as a source of consoling continuity. The King is in Buck House, life goes on

    This is a natural human urge, to look to the ongoing family as a comfort. The Royal Family is the National Family. We rejoice at the births and lament the deaths, and it binds us together. It has a kind of genius. And, note how many monarchies are in the top 20 nations by wealth per capita, it is about half or more, despite the supposed anachronism of the institution
    And had she lived she could have sent herself a 100th birthday telegram today.
    Shades of Fats Waller sitting right down to write himself a letter ..

    I confess, I still miss The Queen

    It is a measure of her charisma and emotional hold over us all. I genuinely miss her. I miss her more than I miss my own father, who also died a few years ago. Is that bad and weird of me? Maybe, but

    1. my dad was a vain selfish twat, albeit talented and genuinely loving at times, so I have an ambivalence

    and

    2. The Queen was THE QUEEN and everything has gone wrong ever since she snuffed out

    Edit to say, I should also add

    3. I can be quite ruthlessly cold. I don't give a fuck if things die, in general
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 17,376
    Leicester relegated to League One
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,514
    DavidL said:

    nico67 said:

    He’s extended the ceasefire indefinitely!

    Looks like Trump bent over and got banged mercilessly by the Mullahs , and is now making out as if he isn’t a gimp !

    It's a classic TACO. But we must all just breathe a sigh of relief (and let the futures traders count their winnings).
    And order him a pizza with lemon chicken.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,552
    edited April 21
    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thankfully TSE's absurd header is in fact just a means to show how factual statements can be misleading as Starmer has shown. Support for the monarchy remains unchanged, support for a Republic is up 1% to 24%, a level still 8% below even the 32% Corbyn Labour got in 2019 despite all of Andrew's goings on.

    In fact even 18 to 24 year olds by a 7% margin prefer keeping the monarchy to a republic, despite a plurality of them voting Green.

    You can rest easy, @HYUFD, the monarchy is going nowhere

    1. If it can survive a monstrous wanker like Andrew it can pretty much survive anything

    Why? Because

    2. In an ever changing and often distressing world, people see it as a source of consoling continuity. The King is in Buck House, life goes on

    This is a natural human urge, to look to the ongoing family as a comfort. The Royal Family is the National Family. We rejoice at the births and lament the deaths, and it binds us together. It has a kind of genius. And, note how many monarchies are in the top 20 nations by wealth per capita, it is about half or more, despite the supposed anachronism of the institution
    King Charles can recover it by going off script to both houses of Congress.

    (Makes official speech. Takes sheet out of pocket, "That was my Government's speech. I also want to make these personal remarks to encourage the people of the USA to make sure their Constitutional Republic lasts ANOTHER 250 years ...".)
  • CookieCookie Posts: 17,571
    MattW said:

    Following up @Cookie 's post from earlier, it's a fairly notorious junction with the angles being such that the main-road to more-minor-road route can be "straight-lined" at speed.

    It's the second one there in a few years - in 2020 a dad of three was killed by a retired lorry driver who said he was "driving slowly and carefully" but was "blinded by the sun" so did not see the cyclist.

    So to me this raises 2 questions - firstly the road design, and secondly the driver continuing education. The latter is being somewhat addressed in the current Bill coming up in Parliament.

    So I think there will be pressure for that junction to be properly redesigned taking all road users into account, perhaps as a T rather than a "grass triangle Y" layout. What it probably wants is a good quality sealed surface alternative route for cyclists and pedestrians usable year round avoiding the junction entirely.

    The MEN report: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/stretford-grammar-michael-mullins-headteacher-33810433
    The other report:https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/driver-who-killed-dad-three-21061140

    Another tribute from the Walk-Ride GM Discord server::

    There is so much love for him on the school WhatsApps, he was so caring about the kids and their well-being and so passionate about active travel. I cried when I went past Longford Park today and remembered him crossing all the kids over at the crossing. When I met him for work he told me how often he was out there ensuring their safety. He was a big part of why we chose that school for our daughter. All day after we had a letter from school to say he had died in an accident I was hoping that it wasn’t while he was on his bike. Such a huge loss and so senseless.

    That's interesting. I've actually cycled through that junction numerous times. I'm struggling to picture how the accident unfolded though. If he was cycling home he was presumably on the main carriageway, on the left hand side. Not that the details matter. 2 KSIs in 6 years is indeed looking a bit like a pattern.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,514
    edited April 21
    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thankfully TSE's absurd header is in fact just a means to show how factual statements can be misleading as Starmer has shown. Support for the monarchy remains unchanged, support for a Republic is up 1% to 24%, a level still 8% below even the 32% Corbyn Labour got in 2019 despite all of Andrew's goings on.

    In fact even 18 to 24 year olds by a 7% margin prefer keeping the monarchy to a republic, despite a plurality of them voting Green.

    You can rest easy, @HYUFD, the monarchy is going nowhere

    1. If it can survive a monstrous wanker like Andrew it can pretty much survive anything

    The whole problem with Andrew is that he doesn’t stick to wanking.

    Edit - I should also point out that there was two Kings of England who were even creepier. One seriously considered marrying his 16 year old niece and the other in addition to raping multiple women (numbered in the hundreds) but married a twelve year old (and not purely in formal terms either.

    Anyone know who they were?
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 8,327

    Trump extends the ceasefire again. Iran just sees this as weakness, weakness, weakness.

    It's TACO Tuesday.

    This is like fucking Ground Hog Day but with mad people in charge.
    He's also announced a continuation of the blockade.
    Yeh, great. That'll get them to the table.

    What time is his warm milk and cookie due from nursey?

    China could send a shed load of money to Iran to help them survive the blockade .

    Drag this out , fxck Trump for the mid-terms and a weakened USA won’t be so gobby on tariffs.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 128,612
    FFS!

    Elite law firm Sullivan & Cromwell admits to AI ‘hallucinations’

    Firm whose partners bill more than $2,000 per hour apologises to judge


    Sullivan & Cromwell told a US federal bankruptcy court that a major filing it made in a high-profile case contained multiple “hallucinations” made by AI software.

    Andrew Dietderich, the head of S&C’s restructuring practice, apologised in a letter to New York federal judge Martin Glenn on Saturday for mistakes that included misquoting the US bankruptcy code and citing cases incorrectly in a court filing made on April 9.

    “We deeply regret that this has occurred,” he said in the letter.

    Dietderich said the firm’s policies on the use of AI had not been followed when the document was prepared, and it was considering whether it needed to make “further enhancements” to its internal training and review processes.

    The letter did not say which lawyers prepared the documents or whether they were still at the firm. S&C declined to comment.


    https://www.ft.com/content/657d86df-5e0d-4d03-bf0c-cb768a58e758?syn-25a6b1a6=1
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,628
    Leon said:

    geoffw said:

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thankfully TSE's absurd header is in fact just a means to show how factual statements can be misleading as Starmer has shown. Support for the monarchy remains unchanged, support for a Republic is up 1% to 24%, a level still 8% below even the 32% Corbyn Labour got in 2019 despite all of Andrew's goings on.

    In fact even 18 to 24 year olds by a 7% margin prefer keeping the monarchy to a republic, despite a plurality of them voting Green.

    You can rest easy, @HYUFD, the monarchy is going nowhere

    1. If it can survive a monstrous wanker like Andrew it can pretty much survive anything

    Why? Because

    2. In an ever changing and often distressing world, people see it as a source of consoling continuity. The King is in Buck House, life goes on

    This is a natural human urge, to look to the ongoing family as a comfort. The Royal Family is the National Family. We rejoice at the births and lament the deaths, and it binds us together. It has a kind of genius. And, note how many monarchies are in the top 20 nations by wealth per capita, it is about half or more, despite the supposed anachronism of the institution
    And had she lived she could have sent herself a 100th birthday telegram today.
    Shades of Fats Waller sitting right down to write himself a letter ..

    I confess, I still miss The Queen

    It is a measure of her charisma and emotional hold over us all. I genuinely miss her. I miss her more than I miss my own father, who also died a few years ago. Is that bad and weird of me? Maybe, but

    1. my dad was a vain selfish twat, albeit talented and genuinely loving at times, so I have an ambivalence

    and

    2. The Queen was THE QUEEN and everything has gone wrong ever since she snuffed out

    Edit to say, I should also add

    3. I can be quite ruthlessly cold. I don't give a fuck if things die, in general
    Craig Brown's Voyage around the Queen is quite amusing

  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,851
    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    nico67 said:

    He’s extended the ceasefire indefinitely!

    Looks like Trump bent over and got banged mercilessly by the Mullahs , and is now making out as if he isn’t a gimp !

    It's a classic TACO. But we must all just breathe a sigh of relief (and let the futures traders count their winnings).
    So do we do a sweepstake on how many days it is again before he's Truth Socialing that it's time to take out the power plants and bridges?
    I'll go for 2 in an uncharacteristic wave of optimism.
    I'll plump for 6. Just on feels alone.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,397
    nico67 said:

    Trump extends the ceasefire again. Iran just sees this as weakness, weakness, weakness.

    It's TACO Tuesday.

    This is like fucking Ground Hog Day but with mad people in charge.
    He's also announced a continuation of the blockade.
    Yeh, great. That'll get them to the table.

    What time is his warm milk and cookie due from nursey?

    China could send a shed load of money to Iran to help them survive the blockade .

    Drag this out , fxck Trump for the mid-terms and a weakened USA won’t be so gobby on tariffs.
    China is 2026 winner so far. They must be laughing themselves to sleep each night.

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 103,818

    FFS!

    Elite law firm Sullivan & Cromwell admits to AI ‘hallucinations’

    Firm whose partners bill more than $2,000 per hour apologises to judge


    Sullivan & Cromwell told a US federal bankruptcy court that a major filing it made in a high-profile case contained multiple “hallucinations” made by AI software.

    Andrew Dietderich, the head of S&C’s restructuring practice, apologised in a letter to New York federal judge Martin Glenn on Saturday for mistakes that included misquoting the US bankruptcy code and citing cases incorrectly in a court filing made on April 9.

    “We deeply regret that this has occurred,” he said in the letter.

    Dietderich said the firm’s policies on the use of AI had not been followed when the document was prepared, and it was considering whether it needed to make “further enhancements” to its internal training and review processes.

    The letter did not say which lawyers prepared the documents or whether they were still at the firm. S&C declined to comment.


    https://www.ft.com/content/657d86df-5e0d-4d03-bf0c-cb768a58e758?syn-25a6b1a6=1

    Been several such cases. Slaps on the wrist at best, when it should be disbarrment.
  • Leon_VotedForStarmerLeon_VotedForStarmer Posts: 69,000
    edited April 21
    geoffw said:

    Leon said:

    geoffw said:

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thankfully TSE's absurd header is in fact just a means to show how factual statements can be misleading as Starmer has shown. Support for the monarchy remains unchanged, support for a Republic is up 1% to 24%, a level still 8% below even the 32% Corbyn Labour got in 2019 despite all of Andrew's goings on.

    In fact even 18 to 24 year olds by a 7% margin prefer keeping the monarchy to a republic, despite a plurality of them voting Green.

    You can rest easy, @HYUFD, the monarchy is going nowhere

    1. If it can survive a monstrous wanker like Andrew it can pretty much survive anything

    Why? Because

    2. In an ever changing and often distressing world, people see it as a source of consoling continuity. The King is in Buck House, life goes on

    This is a natural human urge, to look to the ongoing family as a comfort. The Royal Family is the National Family. We rejoice at the births and lament the deaths, and it binds us together. It has a kind of genius. And, note how many monarchies are in the top 20 nations by wealth per capita, it is about half or more, despite the supposed anachronism of the institution
    And had she lived she could have sent herself a 100th birthday telegram today.
    Shades of Fats Waller sitting right down to write himself a letter ..

    I confess, I still miss The Queen

    It is a measure of her charisma and emotional hold over us all. I genuinely miss her. I miss her more than I miss my own father, who also died a few years ago. Is that bad and weird of me? Maybe, but

    1. my dad was a vain selfish twat, albeit talented and genuinely loving at times, so I have an ambivalence

    and

    2. The Queen was THE QUEEN and everything has gone wrong ever since she snuffed out

    Edit to say, I should also add

    3. I can be quite ruthlessly cold. I don't give a fuck if things die, in general
    Craig Brown's Voyage around the Queen is quite amusing

    Is it? Ooh, must check it out

    I thought his "Ma'am Darling" biography of Princess Margaret was absolute genius: superbly readable, informative and bitchy, while also reinventing the biographical genre

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,938
    kle4 said:

    FFS!

    Elite law firm Sullivan & Cromwell admits to AI ‘hallucinations’

    Firm whose partners bill more than $2,000 per hour apologises to judge


    Sullivan & Cromwell told a US federal bankruptcy court that a major filing it made in a high-profile case contained multiple “hallucinations” made by AI software.

    Andrew Dietderich, the head of S&C’s restructuring practice, apologised in a letter to New York federal judge Martin Glenn on Saturday for mistakes that included misquoting the US bankruptcy code and citing cases incorrectly in a court filing made on April 9.

    “We deeply regret that this has occurred,” he said in the letter.

    Dietderich said the firm’s policies on the use of AI had not been followed when the document was prepared, and it was considering whether it needed to make “further enhancements” to its internal training and review processes.

    The letter did not say which lawyers prepared the documents or whether they were still at the firm. S&C declined to comment.


    https://www.ft.com/content/657d86df-5e0d-4d03-bf0c-cb768a58e758?syn-25a6b1a6=1

    Been several such cases. Slaps on the wrist at best, when it should be disbarrment.
    And clearly restrictions on AI use filing cases given such errors
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,514
    edited April 21

    FFS!

    Elite law firm Sullivan & Cromwell admits to AI ‘hallucinations’

    Firm whose partners bill more than $2,000 per hour apologises to judge


    Sullivan & Cromwell told a US federal bankruptcy court that a major filing it made in a high-profile case contained multiple “hallucinations” made by AI software.

    Andrew Dietderich, the head of S&C’s restructuring practice, apologised in a letter to New York federal judge Martin Glenn on Saturday for mistakes that included misquoting the US bankruptcy code and citing cases incorrectly in a court filing made on April 9.

    “We deeply regret that this has occurred,” he said in the letter.

    Dietderich said the firm’s policies on the use of AI had not been followed when the document was prepared, and it was considering whether it needed to make “further enhancements” to its internal training and review processes.

    The letter did not say which lawyers prepared the documents or whether they were still at the firm. S&C declined to comment.


    https://www.ft.com/content/657d86df-5e0d-4d03-bf0c-cb768a58e758?syn-25a6b1a6=1

    Given the data breaches that could be involved merely by given AI access to the information to write it, any law firm using any form of AI whatsoever should be (a) struck off and (b) all of the partners involved should be reduced to work on their own intellectual level such as road sweeping.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 72,397
    edited April 21
    The open question is how long the [US] blockade can be sustained, given the underlying assumption that Iran will not back down.

    Danny (Dennis) Citrinowicz ,داني سيترينوفيتش
    @citrinowicz

    https://x.com/citrinowicz/status/2046687279079387612



    It certainly is!!!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 136,938
    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thankfully TSE's absurd header is in fact just a means to show how factual statements can be misleading as Starmer has shown. Support for the monarchy remains unchanged, support for a Republic is up 1% to 24%, a level still 8% below even the 32% Corbyn Labour got in 2019 despite all of Andrew's goings on.

    In fact even 18 to 24 year olds by a 7% margin prefer keeping the monarchy to a republic, despite a plurality of them voting Green.

    You can rest easy, @HYUFD, the monarchy is going nowhere

    1. If it can survive a monstrous wanker like Andrew it can pretty much survive anything

    The whole problem with Andrew is that he doesn’t stick to wanking.

    Edit - I should also point out that there was two Kings of England who were even creepier. One seriously considered marrying his 16 year old niece and the other in addition to raping multiple women (numbered in the hundreds) but married a twelve year old (and not purely in formal terms either.

    Anyone know who they were?
    In the Middle Ages plenty of nobles and royals married barely finished puberty girls, it looks repulsive to us now but was not unusual then and of course life expectancy was about half what it is now
  • MattWMattW Posts: 33,552
    geoffw said:

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thankfully TSE's absurd header is in fact just a means to show how factual statements can be misleading as Starmer has shown. Support for the monarchy remains unchanged, support for a Republic is up 1% to 24%, a level still 8% below even the 32% Corbyn Labour got in 2019 despite all of Andrew's goings on.

    In fact even 18 to 24 year olds by a 7% margin prefer keeping the monarchy to a republic, despite a plurality of them voting Green.

    You can rest easy, @HYUFD, the monarchy is going nowhere

    1. If it can survive a monstrous wanker like Andrew it can pretty much survive anything

    Why? Because

    2. In an ever changing and often distressing world, people see it as a source of consoling continuity. The King is in Buck House, life goes on

    This is a natural human urge, to look to the ongoing family as a comfort. The Royal Family is the National Family. We rejoice at the births and lament the deaths, and it binds us together. It has a kind of genius. And, note how many monarchies are in the top 20 nations by wealth per capita, it is about half or more, despite the supposed anachronism of the institution
    And had she lived she could have sent herself a 100th birthday telegram today.
    Shades of Fats Waller sitting right down to write himself a letter ..
    If Fats Waller was white Trump would be Tweeting "Swing Out for Victory".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTeB10Wyzlo
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 79,514
    edited April 21
    HYUFD said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thankfully TSE's absurd header is in fact just a means to show how factual statements can be misleading as Starmer has shown. Support for the monarchy remains unchanged, support for a Republic is up 1% to 24%, a level still 8% below even the 32% Corbyn Labour got in 2019 despite all of Andrew's goings on.

    In fact even 18 to 24 year olds by a 7% margin prefer keeping the monarchy to a republic, despite a plurality of them voting Green.

    You can rest easy, @HYUFD, the monarchy is going nowhere

    1. If it can survive a monstrous wanker like Andrew it can pretty much survive anything

    The whole problem with Andrew is that he doesn’t stick to wanking.

    Edit - I should also point out that there was two Kings of England who were even creepier. One seriously considered marrying his 16 year old niece and the other in addition to raping multiple women (numbered in the hundreds) but married a twelve year old (and not purely in formal terms either.

    Anyone know who they were?
    In the Middle Ages plenty of nobles and royals married barely finished puberty girls, it looks repulsive to us now but was not unusual then and of course life expectancy was about half what it is now
    Believe me these two struck even their contemporaries as utter creeps.

    Edit - I should point out it wasn’t just their sexual depravity. They had also both usurped the throne and murdered their nephews to secure their rule. Not sure if that gives the game away as to who they were.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 4,851

    FFS!

    Elite law firm Sullivan & Cromwell admits to AI ‘hallucinations’

    Firm whose partners bill more than $2,000 per hour apologises to judge


    Sullivan & Cromwell told a US federal bankruptcy court that a major filing it made in a high-profile case contained multiple “hallucinations” made by AI software.

    Andrew Dietderich, the head of S&C’s restructuring practice, apologised in a letter to New York federal judge Martin Glenn on Saturday for mistakes that included misquoting the US bankruptcy code and citing cases incorrectly in a court filing made on April 9.

    “We deeply regret that this has occurred,” he said in the letter.

    Dietderich said the firm’s policies on the use of AI had not been followed when the document was prepared, and it was considering whether it needed to make “further enhancements” to its internal training and review processes.

    The letter did not say which lawyers prepared the documents or whether they were still at the firm. S&C declined to comment.


    https://www.ft.com/content/657d86df-5e0d-4d03-bf0c-cb768a58e758?syn-25a6b1a6=1

    Thought you were going to say the AI hallucinated the hourly rate
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 60,426
    nico67 said:

    Ed has done a deal with Burnham. As has Rayner.

    They are all going to wait until Burnham is in Parliament.

    There’s no guarantee at this time Labour could win a by-election unless it’s in London so not sure this plan is watertight .
    Well then, they'll keep having them until Burnham wins one - or there is nobody left in the Parliamentary Labour Party. It's an infallible plan...
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 26,280
    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Thankfully TSE's absurd header is in fact just a means to show how factual statements can be misleading as Starmer has shown. Support for the monarchy remains unchanged, support for a Republic is up 1% to 24%, a level still 8% below even the 32% Corbyn Labour got in 2019 despite all of Andrew's goings on.

    In fact even 18 to 24 year olds by a 7% margin prefer keeping the monarchy to a republic, despite a plurality of them voting Green.

    You can rest easy, @HYUFD, the monarchy is going nowhere

    1. If it can survive a monstrous wanker like Andrew it can pretty much survive anything

    The whole problem with Andrew is that he doesn’t stick to wanking.

    Edit - I should also point out that there was two Kings of England who were even creepier. One seriously considered marrying his 16 year old niece and the other in addition to raping multiple women (numbered in the hundreds) but married a twelve year old (and not purely in formal terms either.

    Anyone know who they were?
    Was Richard III the first?
  • TazTaz Posts: 28,219

    The open question is how long the [US] blockade can be sustained, given the underlying assumption that Iran will not back down.

    Danny (Dennis) Citrinowicz ,داني سيترينوفيتش
    @citrinowicz

    https://x.com/citrinowicz/status/2046687279079387612



    It certainly is!!!

    What’s the impact on Irans oilfields once the storage is all full. The fields are quite old.

    Surely Iran would need a deal of sorts before they start shutting production down. Perhaps someone in the know like Richard Tyndall or RCS may have an idea ?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 43,528
    @explaintrade.com‬

    WE WILL ANNIHALATE IRAN UNLESS IT MEETS ALL OUR DEMANDS BY WEDNESDAY OR PAKISTAN ASKS NICELY.
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