Bibi torched U.S. support for Israel for a generation
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is wreaking havoc on Israel's standing with Americans as the Iran war supercharges a deterioration in relations with the U.S.
Why it matters: Israel's polling collapse among younger Americans is hitting Congress, too. Lawmakers who started out staunchly pro-Israel are becoming increasingly vocal critics.
Why it matters: Israel's polling collapse among younger Americans is hitting Congress, too. Lawmakers who started out staunchly pro-Israel are becoming increasingly vocal critics.
"We need to have a discussion about how to normalize that relationship and what change is necessary; there's no doubt about that," Rep. Jason Crow (D-Colo.) told Axios.
Zoom in: Every Senate Democrat who's eyeing a 2028 presidential run voted against arms sales to Israel in votes earlier this week.
40 Senate Dems voted on a resolution to block arms sales to Israel, up from just 15 on a similar vote last April.
Netanyahu is "destroying the bipartisan nature in terms of support for Israel," Sen. Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.) told Punchbowl News.
Over in the House, some Democrats are turning against defensive support, including funding for Israel's Iron Dome missile defense system.
That was "seen as insanely fringe four years ago," Rep. Maxwell Frost (D-Fla.) told Axios.
But multiple Democrats who voted for Iron Dome in 2021 told Axios they're done providing financial aid.
The big picture: Older Republicans and white Evangelicals are the last groups to hold majority favorable views of Israel, according to recent Pew polling.
For every other group, Israel's favorability has collapsed since 2022.
Republicans overall though have a favourable view of Israel still and Bibi knew that the Trump administration with a GOP Congress was the last chance to remove Ayatollah Khamenei and his regime. He has achieved the former at least
Ollie Robbins did not tell the PM anything about the vetting because this was in accordance with the rules.
He was then sacked by the PM because of this.
I know we have a problem with people being held accountable for misbehaviour but we now seem to have jumped that issue entirely by sacking people who do follow the rules. Why? Isn't that the question for the PM?
Or have I missed something?
Loads of people told Sir Keir not to appoint "to us he's just... Peter", but he ignored them.
Olly Robbins has now been sacked for not telling him; he was not allowed to tell him according to the rules, but Mr Rules sacked him anyway
Surely OR has simply to tell the Committee on Tuesday why he didn't tell the PM that Mandelson had failed the vetting.
Football reporters should never ever, ever, ever use the word ‘disaster’ in relation to giving a goal away. We’ve just marked the Hillsborough tragedy. Check your language. Do much better.
Football reporters should never ever, ever, ever use the word ‘disaster’ in relation to giving a goal away. We’ve just marked the Hillsborough tragedy. Check your language. Do much better.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
A Labour backbencher has called for the pension triple lock to be reformed to help fund a rise in defence spending
@GraemeDownieMP wrote in The House this weekend that the government should be brave enough to ask older people who "benefited financially from peace" to make a greater contribution to future national security
Football reporters should never ever, ever, ever use the word ‘disaster’ in relation to giving a goal away. We’ve just marked the Hillsborough tragedy. Check your language. Do much better.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
I'm sure I've seen both kinds, so not sure what the precise rules would be, as I've definitely heard that extensions have to clearly be extensions in some cases.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
Football reporters should never ever, ever, ever use the word ‘disaster’ in relation to giving a goal away. We’ve just marked the Hillsborough tragedy. Check your language. Do much better.
A Labour backbencher has called for the pension triple lock to be reformed to help fund a rise in defence spending
@GraemeDownieMP wrote in The House this weekend that the government should be brave enough to ask older people who "benefited financially from peace" to make a greater contribution to future national security
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
I refuse to believe that Howe has just become a crap manager.
Look elsewhere.
He and the club haven't recovered from Liverpool signing Isak and Isak's replacement.
I think it genuinely broke NUFC.
The club with the richest owners in the world had to bend the knee to plucky little Liverpool.
It might be terminal for NUFC because PIF are liquidating a lot of their sporting assets, LIV is gone, Saudi Pro League foot all is gone, the F1 track seems to be on the ropes. I wouldn't be surprised if they look for a buyer for Newcastle in the next couple of years.
I do hope they sell the club. Then I can start supporting the Toon again.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Allies of Andy Burnham have identified a fresh path for the Greater Manchester mayor to return to Westminster and potentially run for Labour leader, via elections to the NEC over the summer
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
I agree with Lucky re the Louvre pyramid, it looked bold at first due to contrast but now just looks like a dated progressive effort.
Mind you I love the Sainsbury wing of the National and couldn’t imagine the early renaissance works being in anything but the cool (stone and design not trendy) surrounds of the SB. The giant pillars in the lobby were grim but the galleries are perfect to focus on the art with the contrast of cool simple tones to the richness of the paintings.
NEW: The IRGC appears to be controlling Iranian decision-making instead of Iranian political officials who are engaging with the United States in negotiations, particularly Foreign Affairs Minister Abbas Araghchi.
Allies of Andy Burnham have identified a fresh path for the Greater Manchester mayor to return to Westminster and potentially run for Labour leader, via elections to the NEC over the summer
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
I agree with Lucky re the Louvre pyramid, it looked bold at first due to contrast but now just looks like a dated progressive effort.
Mind you I love the Sainsbury wing of the National and couldn’t imagine the early renaissance works being in anything but the cool (stone and design not trendy) surrounds of the SB. The giant pillars in the lobby were grim but the galleries are perfect to focus on the art with the contrast of cool simple tones to the richness of the paintings.
I think the extension to the National Museum of Scotland works quite well, in a city full of horror shows.
Allies of Andy Burnham have identified a fresh path for the Greater Manchester mayor to return to Westminster and potentially run for Labour leader, via elections to the NEC over the summer
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Chacun a son gout
The pyramid really is an extension. Have you ever been? It’s a new, unified entrance for the whole museum, with large extensions to galleries (but mainly underground)
Moreover, the Louvre is already a huge mish mash of styles and periods. The famous eastern facade by Perrault is a harmonious masterpiece of the 17th century. There are also some medieval bits and some quite cheesy Victorian additions. So it’s in keeping with its history that it continues to evolve. And I like the glass pyramid
The French often get this wrong however. They have totally ruined the courtyard of the Palais Royal with those stupid stunted black and white columns by Daniel Buren (1986). Apparently Buren deliberately made something ugly and disharmonious so it would be provocative, memorable and win him Awards
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
I agree with Lucky re the Louvre pyramid, it looked bold at first due to contrast but now just looks like a dated progressive effort.
Mind you I love the Sainsbury wing of the National and couldn’t imagine the early renaissance works being in anything but the cool (stone and design not trendy) surrounds of the SB. The giant pillars in the lobby were grim but the galleries are perfect to focus on the art with the contrast of cool simple tones to the richness of the paintings.
I think the extension to the National Museum of Scotland works quite well, in a city full of horror shows.
I think so too, though I tend to view it as a totally different building.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
It is a bit dated. You can find more attractive juxtapositions of old buildings with modern glass structures randomly walking around the City of London.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
I agree with Lucky re the Louvre pyramid, it looked bold at first due to contrast but now just looks like a dated progressive effort.
Mind you I love the Sainsbury wing of the National and couldn’t imagine the early renaissance works being in anything but the cool (stone and design not trendy) surrounds of the SB. The giant pillars in the lobby were grim but the galleries are perfect to focus on the art with the contrast of cool simple tones to the richness of the paintings.
I think the extension to the National Museum of Scotland works quite well, in a city full of horror shows.
As UnDictator of the U.K. I would do much to improve Edinburgh.
The “anti-terrorism” barriers. I mean, FFS, it wouldn’t take big money. But, don’t tell me, are they listed?
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
It is a bit dated. You can find more attractive juxtapositions of old buildings with modern glass structures randomly walking around the City of London.
Indeed, but perhaps not for long. They may soon just look like those ugly blocks added on to nice buildings that those silly tits in the late 20th and early 21st century used to go in for. Harmonious pastiche is imo a better way to go that posterity will look on kindly.
A Labour backbencher has called for the pension triple lock to be reformed to help fund a rise in defence spending
@GraemeDownieMP wrote in The House this weekend that the government should be brave enough to ask older people who "benefited financially from peace" to make a greater contribution to future national security
Reform the whole benefits system, not just the pension part of it.
Non pension benefits up by 6.4% this year.
Link both to GDP growth.
on here it is bash pensioners only , labour love benefits claimants so feed them ever increasing amounts.
Because they vote Labour.
This is the single most important thing for the right to get a handle on before the next election. Low incomes were Labour's worst cohort. Reform's best cohorts were the unemployed and those living in council houses. The Conservatives were effectively a pensioner special interest party.
The right needs to accept that either 1) right:left now looks a lot more like America 2) that they need to start winning high income people back.
Allies of Andy Burnham have identified a fresh path for the Greater Manchester mayor to return to Westminster and potentially run for Labour leader, via elections to the NEC over the summer
I can't read the FT piece as paywall but if anyone on PB happens to be able to get through it would be interesting to get a TL;DR
NEC elections over the summer and get rid of the Starmer mob and get Burnham friendly people on the NEC to stop him being blocked standing in a by-election.
Doesn't fix the problem of him actually winning a by-election.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
I agree with Lucky re the Louvre pyramid, it looked bold at first due to contrast but now just looks like a dated progressive effort.
Mind you I love the Sainsbury wing of the National and couldn’t imagine the early renaissance works being in anything but the cool (stone and design not trendy) surrounds of the SB. The giant pillars in the lobby were grim but the galleries are perfect to focus on the art with the contrast of cool simple tones to the richness of the paintings.
I think the extension to the National Museum of Scotland works quite well, in a city full of horror shows.
As UnDictator of the U.K. I would do much to improve Edinburgh.
The “anti-terrorism” barriers. I mean, FFS, it wouldn’t take big money. But, don’t tell me, are they listed?
I have a long history of posting about them on here. The one in front of New College is particularly egregious - could the sad person who put it there not have considered moving it 20m further uphill so as to not ruin the view?
Other cities have managed to this kind of thing without it looking horrible. Impressed by Bath - we should have a similar set up.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
I agree with Lucky re the Louvre pyramid, it looked bold at first due to contrast but now just looks like a dated progressive effort.
Mind you I love the Sainsbury wing of the National and couldn’t imagine the early renaissance works being in anything but the cool (stone and design not trendy) surrounds of the SB. The giant pillars in the lobby were grim but the galleries are perfect to focus on the art with the contrast of cool simple tones to the richness of the paintings.
I think the extension to the National Museum of Scotland works quite well, in a city full of horror shows.
I think so too, though I tend to view it as a totally different building.
Maybe that's why it works? Something subtle going on there.
Thinking about this policy, I think it's a sign of very simplistic, almost childish thinking.
The desired end is a more equal society -> pass a law to enforce a more equal society. If only it was that simple.
But there was a brief discussion earlier of Denmark, that does have a more equal society. I would contend that the main factors that make Denmark a more equal society are stronger unions and better education.
How many PBers are in favour of weaker trade unions and reducing the number of kids who go to university, though?
I went to the national archives at Kew today to resolve a family mystery worthy of who do you think you are.
I can report that the streets of Kew, Richmond, Sheen and Mortlake are reminiscent of the Bakaa valley, except instead of posters of hezbollah martyrs, the streets are festooned with amber triangles saying Liberal Democrat’s winning here.
It would take a major ground invasion accompanied by precision air strikes to dislodge the Lib Dems from their secure strongholds.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
I agree with Lucky re the Louvre pyramid, it looked bold at first due to contrast but now just looks like a dated progressive effort.
Mind you I love the Sainsbury wing of the National and couldn’t imagine the early renaissance works being in anything but the cool (stone and design not trendy) surrounds of the SB. The giant pillars in the lobby were grim but the galleries are perfect to focus on the art with the contrast of cool simple tones to the richness of the paintings.
I think the extension to the National Museum of Scotland works quite well, in a city full of horror shows.
As UnDictator of the U.K. I would do much to improve Edinburgh.
The “anti-terrorism” barriers. I mean, FFS, it wouldn’t take big money. But, don’t tell me, are they listed?
I have a long history of posting about them on here. The one in front of New College is particularly egregious - could the sad person who put it there not have considered moving it 20m further uphill so as to not ruin the view?
Other cities have managed to this kind of thing without it looking horrible. Impressed by Bath - we should have a similar set up.
The absolutely insane bit, is that there a number of companies that will do unobtrusive solutions, out of a catalogue.
One that I like looks, above ground, like bollards with chains between them. You can do n number of different style to match the locale - wrought iron look etc.
The bollards actually go x meters into the ground. The chain is actually on an arrestor system in the bollards. So when hit, it is dragged out while stopping the vehicle.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Chacun a son gout
The pyramid really is an extension. Have you ever been? It’s a new, unified entrance for the whole museum, with large extensions to galleries (but mainly underground)
Moreover, the Louvre is already a huge mish mash of styles and periods. The famous eastern facade by Perrault is a harmonious masterpiece of the 17th century. There are also some medieval bits and some quite cheesy Victorian additions. So it’s in keeping with its history that it continues to evolve. And I like the glass pyramid
The French often get this wrong however. They have totally ruined the courtyard of the Palais Royal with those stupid stunted black and white columns by Daniel Buren (1986). Apparently Buren deliberately made something ugly and disharmonious so it would be provocative, memorable and win him Awards
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Chacun a son gout
The pyramid really is an extension. Have you ever been? It’s a new, unified entrance for the whole museum, with large extensions to galleries (but mainly underground)
Moreover, the Louvre is already a huge mish mash of styles and periods. The famous eastern facade by Perrault is a harmonious masterpiece of the 17th century. There are also some medieval bits and some quite cheesy Victorian additions. So it’s in keeping with its history that it continues to evolve. And I like the glass pyramid
The French often get this wrong however. They have totally ruined the courtyard of the Palais Royal with those stupid stunted black and white columns by Daniel Buren (1986). Apparently Buren deliberately made something ugly and disharmonious so it would be provocative, memorable and win him Awards
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Chacun a son gout
The pyramid really is an extension. Have you ever been? It’s a new, unified entrance for the whole museum, with large extensions to galleries (but mainly underground)
Moreover, the Louvre is already a huge mish mash of styles and periods. The famous eastern facade by Perrault is a harmonious masterpiece of the 17th century. There are also some medieval bits and some quite cheesy Victorian additions. So it’s in keeping with its history that it continues to evolve. And I like the glass pyramid
The French often get this wrong however. They have totally ruined the courtyard of the Palais Royal with those stupid stunted black and white columns by Daniel Buren (1986). Apparently Buren deliberately made something ugly and disharmonious so it would be provocative, memorable and win him Awards
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
I agree with Lucky re the Louvre pyramid, it looked bold at first due to contrast but now just looks like a dated progressive effort.
Mind you I love the Sainsbury wing of the National and couldn’t imagine the early renaissance works being in anything but the cool (stone and design not trendy) surrounds of the SB. The giant pillars in the lobby were grim but the galleries are perfect to focus on the art with the contrast of cool simple tones to the richness of the paintings.
I think the extension to the National Museum of Scotland works quite well, in a city full of horror shows.
As UnDictator of the U.K. I would do much to improve Edinburgh.
The “anti-terrorism” barriers. I mean, FFS, it wouldn’t take big money. But, don’t tell me, are they listed?
I have a long history of posting about them on here. The one in front of New College is particularly egregious - could the sad person who put it there not have considered moving it 20m further uphill so as to not ruin the view?
Other cities have managed to this kind of thing without it looking horrible. Impressed by Bath - we should have a similar set up.
The absolutely insane bit, is that there a number of companies that will do unobtrusive solutions, out of a catalogue.
One that I like looks, above ground, like bollards with chains between them. You can do n number of different style to match the locale - wrought iron look etc.
The bollards actually go x meters into the ground. The chain is actually on an arrestor system in the bollards. So when hit, it is dragged out while stopping the vehicle.
I know, I know. But that costs money and no one takes responsbility for the public realm. The amount of effort it takes to remove a tatty old phone box... We have street scars on Rose Street that are now 7 years old. I occasionally email the utility company responsible asking for an update. Six years of this too: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c17x52v812po
I don't want to scare people but people like Mamdani in New York do seem to get this.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Chacun a son gout
The pyramid really is an extension. Have you ever been? It’s a new, unified entrance for the whole museum, with large extensions to galleries (but mainly underground)
Moreover, the Louvre is already a huge mish mash of styles and periods. The famous eastern facade by Perrault is a harmonious masterpiece of the 17th century. There are also some medieval bits and some quite cheesy Victorian additions. So it’s in keeping with its history that it continues to evolve. And I like the glass pyramid
The French often get this wrong however. They have totally ruined the courtyard of the Palais Royal with those stupid stunted black and white columns by Daniel Buren (1986). Apparently Buren deliberately made something ugly and disharmonious so it would be provocative, memorable and win him Awards
I hope he’s suffering in hell
Pyramid symbolises Egyptian civilisation.
No, the pyramids symbolises that slavery works!
I believe current theories are that it was contractors who did the work?
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
It is a bit dated. You can find more attractive juxtapositions of old buildings with modern glass structures randomly walking around the City of London.
The pyramid is just in that awkward period when it goes from being bold and modern to being old and venerated. In another 20-30 years everyone will love it
Because it is genuinely clever and rather beautiful. They need to do a better job of cleaning the glass. But then that is so hard as the Louvre is so insanely popular
I’d quite like to see an extension to the Scottish parliament. It’s an interesting example of no matter what they do it will be better than the original
Every time I see that building in real life or in a photo I get a physical shock at its ugliness
Football reporters should never ever, ever, ever use the word ‘disaster’ in relation to giving a goal away. We’ve just marked the Hillsborough tragedy. Check your language. Do much better.
I thought we had moved beyond such tone policing crap.
Lol, what are they going to say instead? It was an inconvenience? A mishap?
Context modifies language.
Sometimes I find the hyperbole ridiculous, but I don't think the word disaster has to be reserved only for incidents resulting in at least double-digit deaths.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
I broadly agree with you on extensions to cultural institutions. Problem is they feel a need to make a statement so the benefactors think they are getting something for their money. Whereas the blander the better so as not to distract from the visual coherence of the original building.
Having said that, I think the Louvre pyramid OK. It serves a practical requirement of an entrance and light into an extensive basement in the courtyard with relatively little disruption to the rest of the building.
Having never been near it in person, I wonder how much birdshit the Louvre pyramid gets.
It was pretty clean last Saturday, pigeons don't roost on it
Inside I'd say the Mona Lisa is no better or worse than plenty of other paintings in there. Venus de Milo in amazing condition(Despite her arm loss) for a two+ thousand year old statue
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
It is a bit dated. You can find more attractive juxtapositions of old buildings with modern glass structures randomly walking around the City of London.
The pyramid is just in that awkward period when it goes from being bold and modern to being old and venerated. In another 20-30 years everyone will love it
Because it is genuinely clever and rather beautiful. They need to do a better job of cleaning the glass. But then that is so hard as the Louvre is so insanely popular
I’d quite like to see an extension to the Scottish parliament. It’s an interesting example of no matter what they do it will be better than the original
Every time I see that building in real life or in a photo I get a physical shock at its ugliness
They have done an extension to the parliament. And it is horrible.
It had this long sweeping facade up to the crags until some bellend ruined it with the security wart. A square box? FFS.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Chacun a son gout
The pyramid really is an extension. Have you ever been? It’s a new, unified entrance for the whole museum, with large extensions to galleries (but mainly underground)
Moreover, the Louvre is already a huge mish mash of styles and periods. The famous eastern facade by Perrault is a harmonious masterpiece of the 17th century. There are also some medieval bits and some quite cheesy Victorian additions. So it’s in keeping with its history that it continues to evolve. And I like the glass pyramid
The French often get this wrong however. They have totally ruined the courtyard of the Palais Royal with those stupid stunted black and white columns by Daniel Buren (1986). Apparently Buren deliberately made something ugly and disharmonious so it would be provocative, memorable and win him Awards
I hope he’s suffering in hell
Pyramid symbolises Egyptian civilisation.
No, the pyramids symbolises that slavery works!
I believe current theories are that it was contractors who did the work?
Yes, but I think there's evidence to say slaves were involved somewhere along the process.
Football reporters should never ever, ever, ever use the word ‘disaster’ in relation to giving a goal away. We’ve just marked the Hillsborough tragedy. Check your language. Do much better.
I thought we had moved beyond such tone policing crap.
Lol, what are they going to say instead? It was an inconvenience? A mishap?
Context modifies language.
Sometimes I find the hyperbole ridiculous, but I don't think the word disaster has to be reserved only for incidents resulting in at least double-digit deaths.
Nor that the word hero for acts of genuine human courage and sacrifice - as we apply it to sporting heroes. Sports language is different in context.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Chacun a son gout
The pyramid really is an extension. Have you ever been? It’s a new, unified entrance for the whole museum, with large extensions to galleries (but mainly underground)
Moreover, the Louvre is already a huge mish mash of styles and periods. The famous eastern facade by Perrault is a harmonious masterpiece of the 17th century. There are also some medieval bits and some quite cheesy Victorian additions. So it’s in keeping with its history that it continues to evolve. And I like the glass pyramid
The French often get this wrong however. They have totally ruined the courtyard of the Palais Royal with those stupid stunted black and white columns by Daniel Buren (1986). Apparently Buren deliberately made something ugly and disharmonious so it would be provocative, memorable and win him Awards
I hope he’s suffering in hell
Pyramid symbolises Egyptian civilisation.
No, the pyramids symbolises that slavery works!
I believe current theories are that it was contractors who did the work?
Yes, but I think there's evidence to say slaves were involved somewhere along the process.
I presume so given how many of the buggers there were around in general.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
It is a bit dated. You can find more attractive juxtapositions of old buildings with modern glass structures randomly walking around the City of London.
Indeed, but perhaps not for long. They may soon just look like those ugly blocks added on to nice buildings that those silly tits in the late 20th and early 21st century used to go in for. Harmonious pastiche is imo a better way to go that posterity will look on kindly.
I always liked this very simple modern addition to part of the original medieval structure at school. I don’t know why it was needed but it works.
The majority of windows had been changed to Georgian sash windows and so adding or changing sympathetically can work.
Thinking about this policy, I think it's a sign of very simplistic, almost childish thinking.
The desired end is a more equal society -> pass a law to enforce a more equal society. If only it was that simple.
But there was a brief discussion earlier of Denmark, that does have a more equal society. I would contend that the main factors that make Denmark a more equal society are stronger unions and better education.
How many PBers are in favour of weaker trade unions and reducing the number of kids who go to university, though?
It is a pretty daft policy as currently presented, as far too easily circumvented.
However the popularity of the policy across the board (including a majority of both Con and Reform voters!) Shows that the Greens are onto something. A lot of voters want to see something done to curb the greed of our new aristocracy.
More astute plutocrats might want to consider that the choice of redistribution or revolution is one that they might have to face. Tumbrils are being assembled, and a bit of wealth sharing may well be preferable to a pain in the neck.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Chacun a son gout
The pyramid really is an extension. Have you ever been? It’s a new, unified entrance for the whole museum, with large extensions to galleries (but mainly underground)
Moreover, the Louvre is already a huge mish mash of styles and periods. The famous eastern facade by Perrault is a harmonious masterpiece of the 17th century. There are also some medieval bits and some quite cheesy Victorian additions. So it’s in keeping with its history that it continues to evolve. And I like the glass pyramid
The French often get this wrong however. They have totally ruined the courtyard of the Palais Royal with those stupid stunted black and white columns by Daniel Buren (1986). Apparently Buren deliberately made something ugly and disharmonious so it would be provocative, memorable and win him Awards
I hope he’s suffering in hell
Pyramid symbolises Egyptian civilisation.
No, the pyramids symbolises that slavery works!
I believe current theories are that it was contractors who did the work?
Yes, but I think there's evidence to say slaves were involved somewhere along the process.
I presume so given how many of the buggers there were around in general.
Many years ago I read that it would have taken the entire population of Egypt to work on the pyramids which means Egypt would have stopped as a functioning state which means foreign workers would have been involved.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
It is a bit dated. You can find more attractive juxtapositions of old buildings with modern glass structures randomly walking around the City of London.
The pyramid is just in that awkward period when it goes from being bold and modern to being old and venerated. In another 20-30 years everyone will love it
Because it is genuinely clever and rather beautiful. They need to do a better job of cleaning the glass. But then that is so hard as the Louvre is so insanely popular
I’d quite like to see an extension to the Scottish parliament. It’s an interesting example of no matter what they do it will be better than the `original
Every time I see that building in real life or in a photo I get a physical shock at its ugliness
The Scottish gov should just move back into Parliament House.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
It is a bit dated. You can find more attractive juxtapositions of old buildings with modern glass structures randomly walking around the City of London.
The pyramid is just in that awkward period when it goes from being bold and modern to being old and venerated. In another 20-30 years everyone will love it
Because it is genuinely clever and rather beautiful. They need to do a better job of cleaning the glass. But then that is so hard as the Louvre is so insanely popular
I’d quite like to see an extension to the Scottish parliament. It’s an interesting example of no matter what they do it will be better than the original
Every time I see that building in real life or in a photo I get a physical shock at its ugliness
They have done an extension to the parliament. And it is horrible.
It had this long sweeping facade up to the crags until some bellend ruined it with the security wart. A square box? FFS.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
It is a bit dated. You can find more attractive juxtapositions of old buildings with modern glass structures randomly walking around the City of London.
Indeed, but perhaps not for long. They may soon just look like those ugly blocks added on to nice buildings that those silly tits in the late 20th and early 21st century used to go in for. Harmonious pastiche is imo a better way to go that posterity will look on kindly.
I always liked this very simple modern addition to part of the original medieval structure at school. I don’t know why it was needed but it works.
The majority of windows had been changed to Georgian sash windows and so adding or changing sympathetically can work.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Chacun a son gout
The pyramid really is an extension. Have you ever been? It’s a new, unified entrance for the whole museum, with large extensions to galleries (but mainly underground)
Moreover, the Louvre is already a huge mish mash of styles and periods. The famous eastern facade by Perrault is a harmonious masterpiece of the 17th century. There are also some medieval bits and some quite cheesy Victorian additions. So it’s in keeping with its history that it continues to evolve. And I like the glass pyramid
The French often get this wrong however. They have totally ruined the courtyard of the Palais Royal with those stupid stunted black and white columns by Daniel Buren (1986). Apparently Buren deliberately made something ugly and disharmonious so it would be provocative, memorable and win him Awards
I hope he’s suffering in hell
Pyramid symbolises Egyptian civilisation.
No, the pyramids symbolises that slavery works!
I believe current theories are that it was contractors who did the work?
The Egyptian state taxed the fuck out of the peasants who grew the food - which was Egypts wealth.
In the non farming season, the Pharohs used some of the tax to pay for workers to build pyramids. Specialists were permanent hires, but a lot of grunt work was done by… the farmers.
The farmers then felt gratitude to the Pharohs. Or were supposed to.
Allies of Andy Burnham have identified a fresh path for the Greater Manchester mayor to return to Westminster and potentially run for Labour leader, via elections to the NEC over the summer
I can't read the FT piece as paywall but if anyone on PB happens to be able to get through it would be interesting to get a TL;DR
Allies of Andy Burnham have identified a fresh path for the Greater Manchester mayor to return to Westminster and potentially run for Labour leader, as Sir Keir Starmer battles calls to resign over the Lord Peter Mandelson scandal.
Burnham, one of Labour’s most popular politicians, was blocked from standing in a by-election in February by members of the governing party’s national executive committee, including the prime minister.
But the former cabinet minister is looking to a shake-up of the body that controls the Labour machinery this summer as a route back into national politics and potentially Downing Street, according to his allies.
One person close to Burnham, who has grown more critical of Starmer as Labour’s poll ratings have worsened, said the mayor was “keeping an eye” on how numbers may change on the NEC when voting for 16 of its roughly 40 places opens in July.
Burnham’s team had held conversations with four trade unions about the dynamics on the ruling committee, they added.
Starmer’s faction controls the balance of power on the committee at present. But the prime minister is seeking to cling on to his job after it emerged that Mandelson had failed a security vetting check before his ill-fated appointment as UK ambassador to the US.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
It is a bit dated. You can find more attractive juxtapositions of old buildings with modern glass structures randomly walking around the City of London.
Indeed, but perhaps not for long. They may soon just look like those ugly blocks added on to nice buildings that those silly tits in the late 20th and early 21st century used to go in for. Harmonious pastiche is imo a better way to go that posterity will look on kindly.
I always liked this very simple modern addition to part of the original medieval structure at school. I don’t know why it was needed but it works.
The majority of windows had been changed to Georgian sash windows and so adding or changing sympathetically can work.
Yes, I like that
Norman Foster’s modernist additions to the Royal Academy are also cool
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Chacun a son gout
The pyramid really is an extension. Have you ever been? It’s a new, unified entrance for the whole museum, with large extensions to galleries (but mainly underground)
Moreover, the Louvre is already a huge mish mash of styles and periods. The famous eastern facade by Perrault is a harmonious masterpiece of the 17th century. There are also some medieval bits and some quite cheesy Victorian additions. So it’s in keeping with its history that it continues to evolve. And I like the glass pyramid
The French often get this wrong however. They have totally ruined the courtyard of the Palais Royal with those stupid stunted black and white columns by Daniel Buren (1986). Apparently Buren deliberately made something ugly and disharmonious so it would be provocative, memorable and win him Awards
I hope he’s suffering in hell
Pyramid symbolises Egyptian civilisation.
No, the pyramids symbolises that slavery works!
I believe current theories are that it was contractors who did the work?
Yes, but I think there's evidence to say slaves were involved somewhere along the process.
I presume so given how many of the buggers there were around in general.
Many years ago I read that it would have taken the entire population of Egypt to work on the pyramids which means Egypt would have stopped as a functioning state which means foreign workers would have been involved.
Are you sure ?
Egypt had a 1.5 million(ISH) population when the pyramids were built
Allies of Andy Burnham have identified a fresh path for the Greater Manchester mayor to return to Westminster and potentially run for Labour leader, via elections to the NEC over the summer
I can't read the FT piece as paywall but if anyone on PB happens to be able to get through it would be interesting to get a TL;DR
Allies of Andy Burnham have identified a fresh path for the Greater Manchester mayor to return to Westminster and potentially run for Labour leader, as Sir Keir Starmer battles calls to resign over the Lord Peter Mandelson scandal.
Burnham, one of Labour’s most popular politicians, was blocked from standing in a by-election in February by members of the governing party’s national executive committee, including the prime minister.
But the former cabinet minister is looking to a shake-up of the body that controls the Labour machinery this summer as a route back into national politics and potentially Downing Street, according to his allies.
One person close to Burnham, who has grown more critical of Starmer as Labour’s poll ratings have worsened, said the mayor was “keeping an eye” on how numbers may change on the NEC when voting for 16 of its roughly 40 places opens in July.
Burnham’s team had held conversations with four trade unions about the dynamics on the ruling committee, they added.
Starmer’s faction controls the balance of power on the committee at present. But the prime minister is seeking to cling on to his job after it emerged that Mandelson had failed a security vetting check before his ill-fated appointment as UK ambassador to the US.
I posted a couple of nights ago that my deep source active in the absolute depths of Lab/union politics for at least thirty years has told me over drinks that "It is going to be Burnham" - so we shall see.
That has been proven in the past few days by various Civil Servants past and present. That procedurally no PM or No 10 would be involved in vetting nor get reasons for decline.
To put it in simple terms even you can understand and not twist.
Starmer No 10
would not have been proceedurally told of reasons for decline nor vetting decision until it was decided.
As the civil servant over ruled the decline, Starmer and number 10 would have been told appointment approved after vetting. The fact vetting declined but overruled would have been passed to PM and number 10 as vetted.
This is not at all uncommon on some regulated businesses, executives want certain appointments, desired appointees fail vetting, executives are told they can't be appointed, executives go to Her Head have a massive argument, appointment made, vetting failed but passed by default, job applicant and all staff totally in the dark.
I've seen this happen.
Head of HR overruling vetting for an appointment desired by a senior Director.
A very famous HR head too.. Now decorated, role model.
BTW
No one can take the braided Farage in a skirt seriously when she's calling fhor resignation of someone or another every day of the week.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Chacun a son gout
The pyramid really is an extension. Have you ever been? It’s a new, unified entrance for the whole museum, with large extensions to galleries (but mainly underground)
Moreover, the Louvre is already a huge mish mash of styles and periods. The famous eastern facade by Perrault is a harmonious masterpiece of the 17th century. There are also some medieval bits and some quite cheesy Victorian additions. So it’s in keeping with its history that it continues to evolve. And I like the glass pyramid
The French often get this wrong however. They have totally ruined the courtyard of the Palais Royal with those stupid stunted black and white columns by Daniel Buren (1986). Apparently Buren deliberately made something ugly and disharmonious so it would be provocative, memorable and win him Awards
I hope he’s suffering in hell
Pyramid symbolises Egyptian civilisation.
No, the pyramids symbolises that slavery works!
I believe current theories are that it was contractors who did the work?
Yes, but I think there's evidence to say slaves were involved somewhere along the process.
I presume so given how many of the buggers there were around in general.
Many years ago I read that it would have taken the entire population of Egypt to work on the pyramids which means Egypt would have stopped as a functioning state which means foreign workers would have been involved.
Are you sure ?
Egypt had a 1.5 million(ISH) population when the pyramids were built
I should have said the entire working age population who could have been physically able to work on something like this.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
It is a bit dated. You can find more attractive juxtapositions of old buildings with modern glass structures randomly walking around the City of London.
The pyramid is just in that awkward period when it goes from being bold and modern to being old and venerated. In another 20-30 years everyone will love it
Because it is genuinely clever and rather beautiful. They need to do a better job of cleaning the glass. But then that is so hard as the Louvre is so insanely popular
I’d quite like to see an extension to the Scottish parliament. It’s an interesting example of no matter what they do it will be better than the `original
Every time I see that building in real life or in a photo I get a physical shock at its ugliness
The Scottish gov should just move back into Parliament House.
Then knock down the new Holyrood and sow the ground with salt. Turn it into a car wash with adjoining Quikfit tyre shop. It willl be better than the awful shite that cost $4bn
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Chacun a son gout
The pyramid really is an extension. Have you ever been? It’s a new, unified entrance for the whole museum, with large extensions to galleries (but mainly underground)
Moreover, the Louvre is already a huge mish mash of styles and periods. The famous eastern facade by Perrault is a harmonious masterpiece of the 17th century. There are also some medieval bits and some quite cheesy Victorian additions. So it’s in keeping with its history that it continues to evolve. And I like the glass pyramid
The French often get this wrong however. They have totally ruined the courtyard of the Palais Royal with those stupid stunted black and white columns by Daniel Buren (1986). Apparently Buren deliberately made something ugly and disharmonious so it would be provocative, memorable and win him Awards
I hope he’s suffering in hell
Pyramid symbolises Egyptian civilisation.
No, the pyramids symbolises that slavery works!
I believe current theories are that it was contractors who did the work?
Yes, but I think there's evidence to say slaves were involved somewhere along the process.
I presume so given how many of the buggers there were around in general.
Many years ago I read that it would have taken the entire population of Egypt to work on the pyramids which means Egypt would have stopped as a functioning state which means foreign workers would have been involved.
Wasn't it seasonal work when there was no major cropwork to do? And that the workers lived in camps with reasonable rations and facilities. Almost like medival pilgrims combining religious duty and socialising.
I do not think there was an available workforce in any neighbouring country either. In pre industrial times wealth was measured by the number of people that you could command rather than by land or other assets. People being the limiting factor in production.
Hence the pyramids should be seen as a form of wealth redistribution by the ruling classes to keep the workers active in the off season, and dependent on the heirarchy for their daily bread.
That has been proven in the past few days by various Civil Servants past and present. That procedurally no PM or No 10 would be involved in vetting nor get reasons for decline.
To put it in simple terms even you can understand and not twist.
Starmer No 10
would not have been proceedurally told of reasons for decline nor vetting decision until it was decided.
As the civil servant over ruled the decline, Starmer and number 10 would have been told appointment approved after vetting. The fact vetting declined but overruled would have been passed to PM and number 10 as vetted.
This is not at all uncommon on some regulated businesses, executives want certain appointments, desired appointees fail vetting, executives are told they can't be appointed, executives go to Her Head have a massive argument, appointment made, vetting failed but passed by default, job applicant and all staff totally in the dark.
I've seen this happen.
Head of HR overruling vetting for an appointment desired by a senior Director.
A very famous HR head too.. Now decorated, role model.
BTW
No one can take the braided Farage in a skirt seriously when she's calling fhor resignation of someone or another every day of the week.
Badenoch is looking like such a muppet over this. Her analysis is correct but her politics are awful.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
It is a bit dated. You can find more attractive juxtapositions of old buildings with modern glass structures randomly walking around the City of London.
The pyramid is just in that awkward period when it goes from being bold and modern to being old and venerated. In another 20-30 years everyone will love it
Because it is genuinely clever and rather beautiful. They need to do a better job of cleaning the glass. But then that is so hard as the Louvre is so insanely popular
I’d quite like to see an extension to the Scottish parliament. It’s an interesting example of no matter what they do it will be better than the `original
Every time I see that building in real life or in a photo I get a physical shock at its ugliness
The Scottish gov should just move back into Parliament House.
Then knock down the new Holyrood and sow the ground with salt. Turn it into a car wash with adjoining Quikfit tyre shop. It willl be better than the awful shite that cost $4bn
They could level it and plant a memorial garden like they do with murder houses. “This garden is in memory of the murder of beautiful Scottish civic architecture. Let all who come here remember the atrocity committed on this site.”
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Chacun a son gout
The pyramid really is an extension. Have you ever been? It’s a new, unified entrance for the whole museum, with large extensions to galleries (but mainly underground)
Moreover, the Louvre is already a huge mish mash of styles and periods. The famous eastern facade by Perrault is a harmonious masterpiece of the 17th century. There are also some medieval bits and some quite cheesy Victorian additions. So it’s in keeping with its history that it continues to evolve. And I like the glass pyramid
The French often get this wrong however. They have totally ruined the courtyard of the Palais Royal with those stupid stunted black and white columns by Daniel Buren (1986). Apparently Buren deliberately made something ugly and disharmonious so it would be provocative, memorable and win him Awards
I hope he’s suffering in hell
Pyramid symbolises Egyptian civilisation.
No, the pyramids symbolises that slavery works!
I believe current theories are that it was contractors who did the work?
Yes, but I think there's evidence to say slaves were involved somewhere along the process.
I presume so given how many of the buggers there were around in general.
Many years ago I read that it would have taken the entire population of Egypt to work on the pyramids which means Egypt would have stopped as a functioning state which means foreign workers would have been involved.
Are you sure ?
Egypt had a 1.5 million(ISH) population when the pyramids were built
As I understand it, the construction was partly seasonal and took decades. Stonemasons would work most of the year, cutting blocks etc. In the off seasons (from farming), the farmers would be used as muscle to pull the blocks into place.
Allies of Andy Burnham have identified a fresh path for the Greater Manchester mayor to return to Westminster and potentially run for Labour leader, via elections to the NEC over the summer
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
It is a bit dated. You can find more attractive juxtapositions of old buildings with modern glass structures randomly walking around the City of London.
The pyramid is just in that awkward period when it goes from being bold and modern to being old and venerated. In another 20-30 years everyone will love it
Because it is genuinely clever and rather beautiful. They need to do a better job of cleaning the glass. But then that is so hard as the Louvre is so insanely popular
I’d quite like to see an extension to the Scottish parliament. It’s an interesting example of no matter what they do it will be better than the `original
Every time I see that building in real life or in a photo I get a physical shock at its ugliness
The Scottish gov should just move back into Parliament House.
Then knock down the new Holyrood and sow the ground with salt. Turn it into a car wash with adjoining Quikfit tyre shop. It willl be better than the awful shite that cost $4bn
They could level it and plant a memorial garden like they do with murder houses. “This garden is in memory of the murder of beautiful Scottish civic architecture. Let all who come here remember the atrocity committed on this site.”
Yes. Like Fred West’s House
It still amazes me that you can spend that much money to get a building that ugly, which contrives to look cheap. What happened? The jobbie building is awful but as @Theuniondivvie correctly pointed out, all you gotta do it snip the offending curly roof away, lower the building, and it would then become simply mediocre
Holyrood is awful in every way. It is irredeemable, in terms of the exterior
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
It is a bit dated. You can find more attractive juxtapositions of old buildings with modern glass structures randomly walking around the City of London.
The pyramid is just in that awkward period when it goes from being bold and modern to being old and venerated. In another 20-30 years everyone will love it
Because it is genuinely clever and rather beautiful. They need to do a better job of cleaning the glass. But then that is so hard as the Louvre is so insanely popular
I’d quite like to see an extension to the Scottish parliament. It’s an interesting example of no matter what they do it will be better than the `original
Every time I see that building in real life or in a photo I get a physical shock at its ugliness
The Scottish gov should just move back into Parliament House.
Then knock down the new Holyrood and sow the ground with salt. Turn it into a car wash with adjoining Quikfit tyre shop. It willl be better than the awful shite that cost $4bn
They could level it and plant a memorial garden like they do with murder houses. “This garden is in memory of the murder of beautiful Scottish civic architecture. Let all who come here remember the atrocity committed on this site.”
'Here lies the dream of Labour's permanent Scottish Redoubt.'
On topic, then Britons are ignorant. We don't see enough politicians (of any colour) with the courage of their convictions to argue against this, because they fear how they'd look.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Chacun a son gout
The pyramid really is an extension. Have you ever been? It’s a new, unified entrance for the whole museum, with large extensions to galleries (but mainly underground)
Moreover, the Louvre is already a huge mish mash of styles and periods. The famous eastern facade by Perrault is a harmonious masterpiece of the 17th century. There are also some medieval bits and some quite cheesy Victorian additions. So it’s in keeping with its history that it continues to evolve. And I like the glass pyramid
The French often get this wrong however. They have totally ruined the courtyard of the Palais Royal with those stupid stunted black and white columns by Daniel Buren (1986). Apparently Buren deliberately made something ugly and disharmonious so it would be provocative, memorable and win him Awards
I hope he’s suffering in hell
Pyramid symbolises Egyptian civilisation.
No, the pyramids symbolises that slavery works!
I believe current theories are that it was contractors who did the work?
Yes, but I think there's evidence to say slaves were involved somewhere along the process.
I presume so given how many of the buggers there were around in general.
Many years ago I read that it would have taken the entire population of Egypt to work on the pyramids which means Egypt would have stopped as a functioning state which means foreign workers would have been involved.
Are you sure ?
Egypt had a 1.5 million(ISH) population when the pyramids were built
I should have said the entire working age population who could have been physically able to work on something like this.
Quite a few other near east civilisations about at that time the Egyptians could and would have traded with tbh. Elamites, Mesopotamia, Greece ?
A Labour backbencher has called for the pension triple lock to be reformed to help fund a rise in defence spending
@GraemeDownieMP wrote in The House this weekend that the government should be brave enough to ask older people who "benefited financially from peace" to make a greater contribution to future national security
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
If anyone needs me I’m in the best room in Killeavy Castle Hotel, under the Ring of Gullion, County Down, Ulster
And I am sipping some wine as I contemplate the view from my bedroom
How on earth did they get planning permission for the travel lodge looking extension?
It’s quite jarring, isn’t it?
But then the castle is faux 19th century and not especially beautiful. It’s not like they desecrated a medieval jewel
And also, judging by the photos in the lobby, the entire place was burned out and derelict. So my guess is the authorities agreed to the big modern extension on the grounds that someone would save the old building and make it useful
And the grounds are exceptionally lovely, melting into the mountains of Mourne. Reminds me strongly of the way Gidleigh Park blurs into Dartmoor
If it's anything like Historic Environment Scotland (or English Heritage I think the English version is), you are not allowed to extend a historic building with a building that is in keeping with its style, as that is pastiche. So you have to add some sort of glass and steel carbuncle with a bit of slate cladding and a living roof - you have no choice.
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Maybe. I don’t know that was an actual rule tho? Just architectural fashion?
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
You can see good examples of this rule (complete with images) here in this glass company that specialises in such fuck ugly extensions:
Historic Environment Scotland (HES) set out broad guidelines for extensions to listed buildings:
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure 2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
It's double-speak. One is respecting the character of the original structure by adding a glass shipping container to it in a way that you wouldn't be respecting it if you added a sympathetic extension with leaded windows and timber framing.
It varies. I really like some modernist extensions to historic buildings
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Personally I think the pyramid looks shite. It's kitsch. The tacky metal and glass hasn't aged well against the very attractive building it's been placed within.
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Chacun a son gout
The pyramid really is an extension. Have you ever been? It’s a new, unified entrance for the whole museum, with large extensions to galleries (but mainly underground)
Moreover, the Louvre is already a huge mish mash of styles and periods. The famous eastern facade by Perrault is a harmonious masterpiece of the 17th century. There are also some medieval bits and some quite cheesy Victorian additions. So it’s in keeping with its history that it continues to evolve. And I like the glass pyramid
The French often get this wrong however. They have totally ruined the courtyard of the Palais Royal with those stupid stunted black and white columns by Daniel Buren (1986). Apparently Buren deliberately made something ugly and disharmonious so it would be provocative, memorable and win him Awards
I hope he’s suffering in hell
Pyramid symbolises Egyptian civilisation.
No, the pyramids symbolises that slavery works!
I believe current theories are that it was contractors who did the work?
Yes, but I think there's evidence to say slaves were involved somewhere along the process.
I presume so given how many of the buggers there were around in general.
Many years ago I read that it would have taken the entire population of Egypt to work on the pyramids which means Egypt would have stopped as a functioning state which means foreign workers would have been involved.
Wasn't it seasonal work when there was no major cropwork to do? And that the workers lived in camps with reasonable rations and facilities. Almost like medival pilgrims combining religious duty and socialising.
I do not think there was an available workforce in any neighbouring country either. In pre industrial times wealth was measured by the number of people that you could command rather than by land or other assets. People being the limiting factor in production.
Hence the pyramids should be seen as a form of wealth redistribution by the ruling classes to keep the workers active in the off season, and dependent on the heirarchy for their daily bread.
This is why health and safety/HR records are some important, if they had kept proper records we could work out who actually built the pyramids.
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Or am I missing something?
“Check your language. Do much better”
Complete and utter cringe
Football reporters should never ever, ever, ever use the word ‘disaster’ in relation to giving a goal away. We’ve just marked the Hillsborough tragedy. Check your language. Do much better.
https://x.com/markpougatch/status/2045519036876808485?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
No idea if this is the case in Ireland but it could well be.
Just sayin'.
Anyway I was right about the antecedents. The castle is a 19th century folly, not the real thing. It looks a tiny bit naff to be honest (it is a pastiche in itself, ironically). But it has an eccentric charm
By 2019 it was totally derelict and the council gave it to the new owner with some eagerness, as long as he agreed to preserve access to the ancient woods etc
“Check your language”. What a supercilious twat
I notice that others have unearthed an old tweet of his, where he describes the closure of an ice cream parlour as “a disaster”. lol
Audio of the Indian oil tanker Sanmar Herald pleading with Iranian forces to stop shooting at it in the Strait of Hormuz this morning.
https://www.iqglassuk.com/technical-advice/guide-to-listed-building-classification-and-regulations-in-scotland/s88796/
1. Extensions must not detract from the character of the original structure
2. To this end, designers should aim for a modern addition that does not impact or overshadow the appearance of the original building
The Louvre Pyramid is the classic example of a bold modern addition that really WORKS
But an awful lot fail
In general I think all domestic architecture should get the approval, or not, of King Charles III. I’m a bit more relaxed on public and commercial buildings. A bit
Mullery looks like he’s about to cry
https://youtu.be/TrLOJtD6Zd4?si=_jeRzk90vrfXYguq
But equally it's not really an extension, it's a sort of art installation in the middle, so I don't think it's really an example of the breed.
Jim Pickard
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Allies of Andy Burnham have identified a fresh path for the Greater Manchester mayor to return to Westminster and potentially run for Labour leader, via elections to the NEC over the summer
www.ft.com/content/2310...
https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3mjrwrknpyk2k
I can't read the FT piece as paywall but if anyone on PB happens to be able to get through it would be interesting to get a TL;DR
Mind you I love the Sainsbury wing of the National and couldn’t imagine the early renaissance works being in anything but the cool (stone and design not trendy) surrounds of the SB. The giant pillars in the lobby were grim but the galleries are perfect to focus on the art with the contrast of cool simple tones to the richness of the paintings.
Institute for the Study of War
@TheStudyofWar
NEW: The IRGC appears to be controlling Iranian decision-making instead of Iranian political officials who are engaging with the United States in negotiations, particularly Foreign Affairs Minister Abbas Araghchi.
https://x.com/TheStudyofWar/status/2045550644921016407
He has made himself look like an idiot enough times already.
The pyramid really is an extension. Have you ever been? It’s a new, unified entrance for the whole museum, with large extensions to galleries (but mainly underground)
Moreover, the Louvre is already a huge mish mash of styles and periods. The famous eastern facade by Perrault is a harmonious masterpiece of the 17th century. There are also some medieval bits and some quite cheesy Victorian additions. So it’s in keeping with its history that it continues to evolve. And I like the glass pyramid
The French often get this wrong however. They have totally ruined the courtyard of the Palais Royal with those stupid stunted black and white columns by Daniel Buren (1986). Apparently Buren deliberately made something ugly and disharmonious so it would be provocative, memorable and win him Awards
I hope he’s suffering in hell
BREAKING: A disillusioned White House staffer says Americans would be "shocked" to learn how many hours every day Donald Trump spends watching AI slop videos of himself on Truth Social posted by bots depicting him as a superhero, Air Force pilot, Army general, dictator, or Jesus.
https://nitter.poast.org/HalfwayPost/status/2045207202206556521#mhttps://nitter.poast.org/HalfwayPost/status/2045207202206556521#m
The “anti-terrorism” barriers. I mean, FFS, it wouldn’t take big money. But, don’t tell me, are they listed?
https://x.com/fhollande/status/2045533897744597018
The right needs to accept that either 1) right:left now looks a lot more like America 2) that they need to start winning high income people back.
Doesn't fix the problem of him actually winning a by-election.
Other cities have managed to this kind of thing without it looking horrible. Impressed by Bath - we should have a similar set up.
The desired end is a more equal society -> pass a law to enforce a more equal society. If only it was that simple.
But there was a brief discussion earlier of Denmark, that does have a more equal society. I would contend that the main factors that make Denmark a more equal society are stronger unions and better education.
How many PBers are in favour of weaker trade unions and reducing the number of kids who go to university, though?
I went to the national archives at Kew today to resolve a family mystery worthy of who do you think you are.
I can report that the streets of Kew, Richmond, Sheen and Mortlake are reminiscent of the Bakaa valley, except instead of posters of hezbollah martyrs, the streets are festooned with amber triangles saying Liberal Democrat’s winning here.
It would take a major ground invasion accompanied by precision air strikes to dislodge the Lib Dems from their secure strongholds.
Republicans against Trump
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Harry Enten: “Pope Leo XIV absolutely crushing President Trump when it comes to how popular they are…
in my expert opinion, I’m not quite sure that going after the pope is the way to recover with Catholics”
https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2045524752618455303
One that I like looks, above ground, like bollards with chains between them. You can do n number of different style to match the locale - wrought iron look etc.
The bollards actually go x meters into the ground. The chain is actually on an arrestor system in the bollards. So when hit, it is dragged out while stopping the vehicle.
I don't want to scare people but people like Mamdani in New York do seem to get this.
The Wolves game next weekend is massive
Looks like as many as 39 points will be needed to be safe
Because it is genuinely clever and rather beautiful. They need to do a better job of cleaning the glass. But then that is so hard as the Louvre is so insanely popular
I’d quite like to see an extension to the Scottish parliament. It’s an interesting example of no matter what they do it will be better than the original
Every time I see that building in real life or in a photo I get a physical shock at its ugliness
Context modifies language.
Sometimes I find the hyperbole ridiculous, but I don't think the word disaster has to be reserved only for incidents resulting in at least double-digit deaths.
Having said that, I think the Louvre pyramid OK. It serves a practical requirement of an entrance and light into an extensive basement in the courtyard with relatively little disruption to the rest of the building.
It had this long sweeping facade up to the crags until some bellend ruined it with the security wart. A square box? FFS.
https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/archive/architects-pan-holyroods-clumsy-security-extension
The majority of windows had been changed to Georgian sash windows and so adding or changing sympathetically can work.
However the popularity of the policy across the board (including a majority of both Con and Reform voters!) Shows that the Greens are onto something. A lot of voters want to see something done to curb the greed of our new aristocracy.
More astute plutocrats might want to consider that the choice of redistribution or revolution is one that they might have to face. Tumbrils are being assembled, and a bit of wealth sharing may well be preferable to a pain in the neck.
Chapeau
In the non farming season, the Pharohs used some of the tax to pay for workers to build pyramids. Specialists were permanent hires, but a lot of grunt work was done by… the farmers.
The farmers then felt gratitude to the Pharohs. Or were supposed to.
A primitive welfare state?
Burnham, one of Labour’s most popular politicians, was blocked from standing in a by-election in February by members of the governing party’s national executive committee, including the prime minister.
But the former cabinet minister is looking to a shake-up of the body that controls the Labour machinery this summer as a route back into national politics and potentially Downing Street, according to his allies.
One person close to Burnham, who has grown more critical of Starmer as Labour’s poll ratings have worsened, said the mayor was “keeping an eye” on how numbers may change on the NEC when voting for 16 of its roughly 40 places opens in July.
Burnham’s team had held conversations with four trade unions about the dynamics on the ruling committee, they added.
Starmer’s faction controls the balance of power on the committee at present. But the prime minister is seeking to cling on to his job after it emerged that Mandelson had failed a security vetting check before his ill-fated appointment as UK ambassador to the US.
Norman Foster’s modernist additions to the Royal Academy are also cool
Egypt had a 1.5 million(ISH) population when the pyramids were built
DYOR kids
That has been proven in the past few days by various Civil Servants past and present. That procedurally no PM or No 10 would be involved in vetting nor get reasons for decline.
To put it in simple terms even you can understand and not twist.
Starmer
No 10
would not have been proceedurally told of reasons for decline nor vetting decision until it was decided.
As the civil servant over ruled the decline, Starmer and number 10 would have been told appointment approved after vetting. The fact vetting declined but overruled would have been passed to PM and number 10 as vetted.
This is not at all uncommon on some regulated businesses, executives want certain appointments, desired appointees fail vetting, executives are told they can't be appointed, executives go to Her Head have a massive argument, appointment made, vetting failed but passed by default, job applicant and all staff totally in the dark.
I've seen this happen.
Head of HR overruling vetting for an appointment desired by a senior Director.
A very famous HR head too.. Now decorated, role model.
BTW
No one can take the braided Farage in a skirt seriously when she's calling fhor resignation of someone or another every day of the week.
I do not think there was an available workforce in any neighbouring country either. In pre industrial times wealth was measured by the number of people that you could command rather than by land or other assets. People being the limiting factor in production.
Hence the pyramids should be seen as a form of wealth redistribution by the ruling classes to keep the workers active in the off season, and dependent on the heirarchy for their daily bread.
Or radicalise it
A commitment to increase by no less than 1% below one set measure.
It still amazes me that you can spend that much money to get a building that ugly, which contrives to look cheap. What happened? The jobbie building is awful but as @Theuniondivvie correctly pointed out, all you gotta do it snip the offending curly roof away, lower the building, and it would then become simply mediocre
Holyrood is awful in every way. It is irredeemable, in terms of the exterior
If I had to I'd vote Labour to stop the Greens.