Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Thanks.
That gives 1,681. Goodwin says "more than 2,000".
The study was from 2015, using data from 2013. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the number has increased by that much, given the amount if immigration in the last 13 years.
OK, and we can trust Goodwin has this data and has checked it?
I would trust Goodwin less far than I can throw him (Mental note, arm day at the gym),
But just because he is an arsehole, doesn't mean that there are not facts here.
From some googling around, it seems there is a claim that the number is 2039 - allegedly based on a FOI from the DfE. Which I can't find online.
Went to see a dying friend yesterday. He’s been a long time a-dying - as he says himself. But he is slowly getting there. He’s now in a bed, with a nappy, 24/7 - and has been for months
I asked him if he gets bored. He said no, and made a chirpy joke (that’s his way). But he did say “it’s like seeing life through a keyhole”
Carpe fucking diem PB. Indeed, Carpe fucking Horan
A very good friend died of cancer this week. She was conducting choir only a month ago.
Jesus. Sorry to hear that
I don't know if the swiftness is worse or better. Worse?
A lot of PBers are ducking down sniper's alley
She'd had this (incurable) cancer for some time, but got on with life, punctuated by palliative chemo.
As cheerful as your friend, but a bit better I think.
The annoying thing is that medical technology is arguably closing in on life extension: we are not far from adding decades to the human life span. And a bit further down the line is age reversal and functional immortality
So if we can all hang in there for another 10-15 years we might make it to the year 3000, when the Lib Dems finally take office
It would be deeply irritating to die JUST before this medical leap. Like being the last soldier shot before the Armistics on November 11, 1918, at 11am
On the contrary, 1000 year old voters will never vote Lib Dem. Tories and Reform only, depending on who keeps the triple lock for the next 1000 years.
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
The main thing is... so what? It might be causing a fail in community cohesion if pupils never get fluent in English. It might be diverting an unreasonable amount of resource to get pupils up to speed in English. Or (and I suspect this is the case) it's an unattached figure, a number whose meaning has to be implied because if you say the meaning out loud, it falls apart.
(As in one step beyond Huff's Semi-Attached Figure. I have been reading How to Lie with Statistics again recently. Does it show?)
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
Went to see a dying friend yesterday. He’s been a long time a-dying - as he says himself. But he is slowly getting there. He’s now in a bed, with a nappy, 24/7 - and has been for months
I asked him if he gets bored. He said no, and made a chirpy joke (that’s his way). But he did say “it’s like seeing life through a keyhole”
Carpe fucking diem PB. Indeed, Carpe fucking Horan
A very good friend died of cancer this week. She was conducting choir only a month ago.
Jesus. Sorry to hear that
I don't know if the swiftness is worse or better. Worse?
A lot of PBers are ducking down sniper's alley
She'd had this (incurable) cancer for some time, but got on with life, punctuated by palliative chemo.
As cheerful as your friend, but a bit better I think.
The annoying thing is that medical technology is arguably closing in on life extension: we are not far from adding decades to the human life span. And a bit further down the line is age reversal and functional immortality
So if we can all hang in there for another 10-15 years we might make it to the year 3000, when the Lib Dems finally take office
It would be deeply irritating to die JUST before this medical leap. Like being the last soldier shot before the Armistics on November 11, 1918, at 11am
On the contrary, 1000 year old voters will never vote Lib Dem. Tories and Reform only, depending on who keeps the triple lock for the next 1000 years.
I am trying to remember which book it was (Charlie Stross?) that in a somewhat dystopian future UK, you could get the nanite injection to make you functionally immortal. If you gave up all your benefits - so no pension.
Netanyahu is scum, but comparing him to Hitler is the mark of an unhinged mind.
Or a lateral thinker
You can't classify evil
Evil is evil
Genocide is genocide
Netanyahu right now is as great a threat to the world as Hitler ever was.
You absolutely can classify evil.
Genocide is genocide, yes. Fighting in war is not genocide, sending people into gas chambers is genocide.
Netanyahu is nothing like Hitler.
After 7th October, where over a thousand innocent people were murdered and others raped, kidnapped etc. Israel responded with war on Hamas, with collateral casualties running into tens of thousands. Whilst most of us think it’s gone too far, I’m not sure what alternatives people had in mind for an Israeli response.
Does that include those in the West Bank, Syria and Lebanon killed or dispossessed - the latter category including a fifth of Lebanon's population ?
When do they declare this response concluded ?
West Bank and Syria, no. Lebanon, yes.
Lebanon is a war against Hezbollah, whom are fighting alongside Iran and Hamas.
Responses/wars are generally concluded once the war is concluded because the threat has been eliminated or surrendered.
That kinda overlooks the Israeli politicians saying they should stay in the occupied Lebanese (and Syrian) territories indefinitely.
Because its not affecting what I wrote at all.
Yes, some in Israel seek "Greater Israel".
Giving them a casus belli by attacking Israel and giving Israel just cause to attack might not be the most rational move by Hezbollah therefore. But its whay they have done, repeatedly.
Hezbollah attacked Israel after Israel attacked Iran. Obviously there's a long history between them before that, but if it's irrational to give others a casus belli by attacking, then why aren't you criticising the Israeli government? They attacked Iran. They invaded Syria.
Iran because they are the root of the trouble, behind Hamas, behind Hezbollah, with an open goal of wiping Israel off the map and openly seeking nuclear weapons to do so as verified by the IAEA.
Israel is fully entitled to tackle Iran and I have advocated for years that they should, so would be hypocritical to attack them for doing what I think is a good idea, as well as what is their rational self defence.
Syria because Syria and Israel are at war, and have been for a long time. Furthermore Syria has just been taken over by Islamist terrorists, whom the UK Government prohibited as Islamist terrorists.
Would be hypocritical to criticise Israel for taking measures against a country they are at war with that has just been taken over by Islamic terrorists who are so dangerous the British Government prohibited them.
In October 2025, the UK formally removed the dominant group in the new Syrian government, Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), from its list of banned groups under the Terrorism Act 2000. This decision followed a similar move by the United States earlier last year.
So that would be after HTS took over Syria and after Israel took action against them?
Ie at the time they took over, and Israel acted in her self defence, the British Government did indeed class HTS as terrorists?
As well as the fact Syria and Israel are legally at war.
Had the new Syrian government taken any offensive action against Israel?
Oh, and given Israel also invaded the area occupied by UN peacekeepers, had the UN taken any offensive action against Israel?
Do they need to have?
Self defence, especially when you are at war, is generally best taken operationally before the other side hits you, not after.
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
You will find the pressure on the government will become so intense Miliband will approve the Jackdaw and Rosebank fields
Greg Jackson CEO Ocyppus very much disagrees with Richard Tindall
You will not win this one in public opinion
It is so obvious that only closed minds would want to prevent upto 25 billion more tax readily available to the economy over the next 10 plus years
Trade body in favour of more of the thing they do isn't perhaps the most persuasive argument.
This argument is only going one way and the longer the middle east crisis lasts the pressure will be irristable
We need renewables and the tax revenue from oil and gas at the same time, anything else is economic vandalism
The unions, SNP and upto 40 labour mps are supporting it and why not ?
The Middle East crisis is only pushing the argument one way: stop relying on fossil fuels a.s.a.p.!
Indeed the debate is All leaning anti fosil fuel to renewables
The old git in North Wales with the Kemi fettish however deceitfully claims she is leading the drill drill drill debate.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
The facts are
It is claimed deceitfully that the Unions agree with her.
It is claimed deceitfully that 40 Labour MPs agree with her.
The fact is that Unions with Members in the sector have campaigned since well before Kemi was an MP against job losses and during time she was in Cabinet
The fact is that a number of Labour MPs with seats with sector jobs have also campaigned against cuts and closure
To say they are backing her or following her is a downright lie.They would be outraged to be told this.
She is the political opportunist whose party had totally opposing views. They blatant ignore numerous statements on this.
She is the politicial opportunist who is jumping on any bandwagon she can find
She is the political opportunist who will follow Donald Trump to the ends of the earth, he says jump she days how high, he says bomb Iran she agrees.
Some people have conviction and beliefs
She has no conviction, no beliefs other than to jump on the latest bandwagon.
Fuel Brittania
Drill oil at a net loss Pump oil at a Net loss, buy oil on the global market, screw tax out of the motorist and abolish the windfall tax that is BUILDING renewable functionality to give to Global billionaires who will do anything and everything to avoid paying UK tax
Those are the facts Kemi spouts fiction The Tories are in utter disarray on this subject.
Fuel Brittania on a Petrol Tanker when petrol prices are going through the roof
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
My brother moved to Amsterdam when he was 22 and with his Dutch wife had two children. They are and were completely bi-lingual and there was no cuter sight than watching a six and four year old speaking in two languages and doing all the interpreting for two sets of grandparents.
That miserable man Goodwin really does miss out on the fun things in life
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
My hunch (based on teaching in NE London) is that EAL pupils are a positive for a school's progress stats. Their KS2 scores tend a bit low (because they're still getting the hang of the lingo), so they overachieve their slightly depressed targets at GCSE.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
Wouldn't she be assessed as Fluent? Or is this another metric that has been completely fucked up - because "we always measure the ability to speak English by the level of phlogiston in the air" ?
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
Wouldn't she be assessed as Fluent? Or is this another metric that has been completely fucked up - because "we always measure the ability to speak English by the level of phlogiston in the air" ?
She was fluent, but still considered EAL for statistical purposes.
Edit - another slightly ridiculous example of statistics from that school was 'Forces Families,' whom we had to pay particular attention to to ensure they were not falling behind due to economic/emotional difficulties. I only had one in my lessons whom I was ordered to monitor. Her father was OC a local major installation...
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
My hunch (based on teaching in NE London) is that EAL pupils are a positive for a school's progress stats. Their KS2 scores tend a bit low (because they're still getting the hang of the lingo), so they overachieve their slightly depressed targets at GCSE.
Likewise from working in an international school. If of course they are giving time and space to learn the language.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
Goodwin describes it as children whose main language is not English, but, to continue your line of thought, that’s not what EAL means. EAL means the main language at home is not English. The child may use English more than any other language, or they may not. The child may be fluent in English, or they may not. English may be used partially at home or not at all. We do know that bilingualism (or tri-) in children is something to be encouraged, something that improves cognitive abilities.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
Wouldn't she be assessed as Fluent? Or is this another metric that has been completely fucked up - because "we always measure the ability to speak English by the level of phlogiston in the air" ?
She was fluent, but still considered EAL for statistical purposes.
Ah. Another triumph of process.
"Speaking English" for officialdom is not actually related to your ability to speak English?
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
Wouldn't she be assessed as Fluent? Or is this another metric that has been completely fucked up - because "we always measure the ability to speak English by the level of phlogiston in the air" ?
She was fluent, but still considered EAL for statistical purposes.
Ah. Another triumph of process.
"Speaking English" for officialdom is not actually related to your ability to speak English?
I think @bondegezou has put it better than I would.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
My brother moved to Amsterdam when he was 22 and with his Dutch wife had two children. They are and were completely bi-lingual and there was no cuter sight than watching a six and four year old speaking in two languages and doing all the interpreting for two sets of grandparents.
That miserable man Goodwin really does miss out on the fun things in life
When I was a kid, a school friend had a Lebanese dad and a Chinese mum. His baby sister spoke Levantine Arabic, Mandarin and English, but hadn’t yet worked out that everyone else in the world can’t speak all three. She’d start a sentence in one language and complete it in another.
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
You will find the pressure on the government will become so intense Miliband will approve the Jackdaw and Rosebank fields
Greg Jackson CEO Ocyppus very much disagrees with Richard Tindall
You will not win this one in public opinion
It is so obvious that only closed minds would want to prevent upto 25 billion more tax readily available to the economy over the next 10 plus years
Trade body in favour of more of the thing they do isn't perhaps the most persuasive argument.
This argument is only going one way and the longer the middle east crisis lasts the pressure will be irristable
We need renewables and the tax revenue from oil and gas at the same time, anything else is economic vandalism
The unions, SNP and upto 40 labour mps are supporting it and why not ?
There is simply no good argument against allowing private industry to produce oil and gas in the UK - contributing both to tax receipts and improving our balance of payments - when we're going to be using both things for the foreseeable future, even under our most optimistic net zero forecasts.
Brixian not liking Badenoch certainly isn't that argument.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
Wouldn't she be assessed as Fluent? Or is this another metric that has been completely fucked up - because "we always measure the ability to speak English by the level of phlogiston in the air" ?
She was fluent, but still considered EAL for statistical purposes.
Ah. Another triumph of process.
"Speaking English" for officialdom is not actually related to your ability to speak English?
No. It’s Goodwin who has abused the official term, not a fault of officialdom. The system doesn’t say EAL means you can’t speak English.
EDIT: I think there’s even a case that it makes more sense to track main language at home, as EAL does, than to try to assess whether the children can speak English, simply because children in schools tend to pick up English (or whatever language they’re in) very quickly. The Ukrainian refugee who speaks little English on day one might be pretty fluent by the end of the academic year!
On Farage and Churchill, apparently Farage is not Right Wing and Churchill was a traitor.
Comments on the David Frum video: "The Far-Right Algorithm: Anti-Churchill, Anti-West "
@goyonman9655 15 hours ago Farage is not a right-winger Stop this nonsense
He says himself that his biggest achievment is stopping the Right.
And churchill is a traitor who threw away the british empire over a atupid war
This is In response to my restrained comment on Frum's exaggerated overegging of putting squirrels on £5 notes being some kind of defenestration of our history:
Frum's stuff about Churchill being taken off the £5 note as an attack on "suppressing history" is a vast, almost self-satirical, overreach.
Churchill has only been on the £5 note since 2016, and the Bank of England consulted and we the people wanted natural history of the UK instead.
It is only the crusty garden-shed Right-wingers like Farage & writers for the Spectator, and the extreme Right, who are getting excited about it. https://youtu.be/3sa_a98wvsI?t=1051
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
Wouldn't she be assessed as Fluent? Or is this another metric that has been completely fucked up - because "we always measure the ability to speak English by the level of phlogiston in the air" ?
She was fluent, but still considered EAL for statistical purposes.
Ah. Another triumph of process.
"Speaking English" for officialdom is not actually related to your ability to speak English?
No. It’s Goodwin who has abused the official term, not a fault of officialdom. The system doesn’t say EAL means you can’t speak English.
To be fair, Goodwin did not say they can't speak English though, did he?
Though others may have inferred that from his comment, it was not actually claimed.
That's the way these shit stirrers act, claim something defensible, then let others infer there is more to it, when there is not.
On Farage and Churchill, apparently Farage is not Right Wing and Churchill was a traitor.
Comments on the David Frum video: "The Far-Right Algorithm: Anti-Churchill, Anti-West "
@goyonman9655 15 hours ago Farage is not a right-winger Stop this nonsense
He says himself that his biggest achievment is stopping the Right.
And churchill is a traitor who threw away the british empire over a atupid war
This is In response to my restrained comment on Frum's overegging of putting squirrels on £5 notes being some kind of defenestration of our history:
Frum's stuff about Churchill being taken off the £5 note as an attack on "suppressing history" is a vast, almost self-satirical, overreach.
Churchill has only been on the £5 note since 2016, and the Bank of England consulted and we the people wanted natural history of the UK instead.
It is only the crusty garden-shed Right-wingers like Farage & writers for the Spectator, and the extreme Right, who are getting excited about it. https://youtu.be/3sa_a98wvsI?t=1051
Ah well !!
"we the people"... a self-selecting survey, on par with a voodoo poll.
I see that the far-left takeover of the (no longer) Green Party means that they are now infested with antisemites.
Since the pitiful 'Greens are anti NATO' tactic has proved entirely fruitless, obviously the media is now going full on Maoist bicycle on the road to Auschwitz. Possibly won't work as well as it did with Jezza because as far as I know the Greens don't have an active section of the party plotting to bring down Zack.
The sense of entitlement from Labour is extreme.
The exodus to the Greens is not being driven by anti-semitism, it is being driven by the Reform-adjacent policies of the Labour Party.
As a committed pro-semite (I'm technically Jewish and I was brought up on accounts of the horrors of 30s Germany and the necessity of Israel), I've really had enough of Netanyahu and current Israeli policy, and that doesn't make me an anti-semite. Obviously burning Jewish ambulances is both wrong and stupid, but I don't think that being critical of Israeli policy qualifies at all.
Netanyahu has done more for anti-semitism than anyone could have expected.
"the necessity of Israel" - maybe it's because I'm not Jewish, but I've never understood how a genocide on one continent, however appalling, legitimises subsequent ethnic cleansing of a group of people completely innocent of that crime in another. Nor how moving to a country surrounded by enemies who are committed to destroying you makes you much safer.
It reminds me a little of the logic of a white South African family friend who told me in Cape Town a few years ago that he had fled from Britain in 1970 (then 1% black) to South Africa (80% black) to avoid the Rivers of Blood and the black man's whip hand that Enoch Powell had forecast. He could clearly only find the safety he craved with systematic oppression of the indigenous majority, and, anyway, it probably wouldn't work in the long run.
Israel is majority Jewish though and the only Jewish majority nation on earth, so a homeland Jews will always defend as their only sure sanctuary.
South Africa has never been majority white but there are plenty of majority white nations on earth still and in most of Eastern Europe it is still almost 100% white
But Israel is clearly not a sure sanctuary, is it? It is surrounded by countries that hate it, and have nearly wiped it off the map three times in its short life. The only reason it survived was American goodwill, which it is now losing.
And, day to day, rockets are fired into the country from its neighbours and paranoid security is a part of everyday life, that makes the whole country feel like a mixture of an armed camp, with three years' military service for men and two for women, and an airport since 9/11. Terrorists pointlessly murdered 1,200 just a couple of years ago. So in fact Jews are actually far safer in the European democracies they left after the Second World War.
So even on its own terms, providing sanctuary for Jews, Israel has been a complete failure.
And a morally appalling one given the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian Arabs and the terrorism against the legitimate authorities which were its founding achievements.
Natanyahu is out-performing Adolf Hitler in branding and putting a target on the back of every Jewish person on the Planet.
He is turning Israel, and by it's definition Jewish people in to targets.
Had anyone said this a few years ago they would have been certified, now the majority see it, feel it , sense it.
When anyone (quite rightly) attacks ANTI SEMITISM - they need to attack the source. The source is NETANYAHU and his cabal in Tel Aviv.
Eradicate him and his cabal, bring decency and honesty back in to Israeli politics DE-ESCALATE and sure as night follows day, anti semitism aroumd the Globe will reduce and de-escalate too!
It needs a moderate Jew to take Netanyahu out, we can only hope someone steps up to the plate, in the l leftl same way a moderate Russian would with Putin.
I agree that Bibi over the last 30 years has a body count heading into the lower numbers of Hitler territory.
Nobody despises Netanyahu more than I do, but more than 7 million people, including around 1.8 million non-Jewish people, died in the Holocaust, not counting other acts of genocide against Poles, Russians and the dead of the occupied countries of Western Europe.
Netanyahu is a Tristram, but he is not that much of a Tristram. Comparing him to Hitler just gives Netanyahu an undeserved moral high ground.
Horthy or Mussolini would be a better parallel, especially Horthy.
I don't believe one should consider gradations of unmitigated evil. Stalin, Hitler, Bibi and Trump fit the frame, and Trump's body count is barely out of the traps.
Hitler was quite open about who he killed and his regime was rather good at recording the details. Bibi, not so much.
Many of Bibi's casualties are buried under rubble never to be found in Gaza, Lebanon and elsewhere, and others have been removed by covert activity across the World. I would be surprised if Bibi's body count doesn't reach 7 figures. I would suggest the 80,000 Gazan casualties is an enormous under estimation. And who would believe Hamas metrics?
You may suggest that but it is extremely unlikely you are correct. 80,000 dead is almost certainly the upper limit if only because Hamas would count every 'possible' in their figure to make Israel look worse. Even if we reduce it by a third, as people who may have been displaced and not reunited with their families and for a certain amount of double counting (again, likely an upper limit for that number) the figures are bad enough, but it's comparable to the number who died in the Blitz and far lower than the numbers who died in Dresden, Cologne, Pforzheim and Hamburg.
Just to make some other obvious points Netanyahu has not stolen the possessions of dead Palestinians and sold them to line his own pocket, he hasn't cut their hair off to make blankets, and he hasn't had the fat used from cremating them used to make soap (the soap issued to Poles had 42% human fat content). These were all things done on the orders of Hitler.
Netanyahu is bad but not that bad (heck, even Putin isn't that bad although I wouldn't go bail for Xi). Don't give him alibis.
Weird guy, leaning into the whole 'JD is weird' thing.
The "demons" thing is interesting - not the language I would expect from a newly minted born-again Traditionalist Right Wing Roman Catholic, who takes it upon himself to assert that the Pope and all the Bishops are just wrong.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
My brother moved to Amsterdam when he was 22 and with his Dutch wife had two children. They are and were completely bi-lingual and there was no cuter sight than watching a six and four year old speaking in two languages and doing all the interpreting for two sets of grandparents.
That miserable man Goodwin really does miss out on the fun things in life
When I was a kid, a school friend had a Lebanese dad and a Chinese mum. His baby sister spoke Levantine Arabic, Mandarin and English, but hadn’t yet worked out that everyone else in the world can’t speak all three. She’d start a sentence in one language and complete it in another.
My lad was born in Germany and went to Kindergarten there, where he obviously spoke German, but we spoke English at home. For a little while, he thought that children spoke German and adults spoke English, and confused the hell out of his little English-speaking cousins when they were together.
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
Oil is a commodity that is going to be needed centuries into the future, even post net zero.
And if its unprofitable then why is it both heavily taxed and prohibited? Just permit it and see it not being extracted due to lack of viability.
Until you prohibit imports, the amount of fossil fuels burned in this country has nothing to do with the amount extracted.
“Trump is waging war based on instinct and it isn't working”
The first few paragraphs talk about plans, planning etc.
The BBC are sanewashing again. Trump didn't have a plan. It was just 'bomb because we can' and assume the Iranians would surrender and install Trump as the new Supreme leader. It really didn't go further than that.
The US continue NOT to have a plan. Are they going to launch a ground invasion? If so, where? What's the aim, what's the objective?
Well without a ground invasion it is unlikely to be able to remove the Iranian regime
How do you envisage a ground invasion removing the Iranian regime?
Well US and Israeli troops enter Tehran and literally remove the regime and Revolutionary Guard
What level of forces are required for that, and how many are in theatre?
10,000 US troops and marines are now in the region with more on the way. Israel would also send troops
2.7 million US military served in Vietnam between 1955 - 1975 and 58,279 died
They kept South Vietnam free of the Communists. The mistake was withdrawing them
You are a fool and/or deeply ignorant of the history.
I am not, the Democrat Congress pulled funding for the war forcing Ford to withdraw troops, had the US troops stayed Saigon would never have fallen to the Vietcong
Nixon started withdrawing troops in 69; signed a ceasefire in73, and withdrew all US troops that year. Basically in response to the impossibility of winning, the massive unpopularity and unaffordability of the war, and the collapse of morale in the US army.
You have no knowledge of the history.
On the other hand, the North Vietnamese ground offensive that ended the war was predicated on the withdrawal of military support.
Many South Vietnamese units fought until they ran out of ammunition.
The war killed maybe a tenth of the entire Vietnamese population; it came close to bankrupting the US, and ended at least one presidency.
U.S. efforts only increased the number of VC in the South. They recruited as many as they killed.
And an attempt to conquer and hold Tehran, to change the regime, would be 20 times worse. It's much bigger, it's all mountains, it has a large sophisticated army, they don't live in huts
Even Trump isn't that mad. One hopes
Apparently what's more likely is him trying to 'do a number' on Kharg Island.
Of all his countless defects it's his out-of-his-depthness that is probably the most concerning right now.
Actually, I think seizing Kharg Island makes sense IF you have decided to escalate. It's risky but it's an obvious pressure point, from what I've read. America can then strangle Iranian oil exports and also get a base for actions on the mainland. Unfortunately, to my amateur mind, it only makes sense if Trump is prepared to go all in: to combine this with extreme bombing of Iran, pulverising them into surrender. And yes, nukes, maybe
It's slid into a 'wouldn't have started from here' situation with only bad options. I'm hoping that in a revolutionary reversal of the norm he surprises on the upside with a hard-headed calculation (uninfluenced by Netanyahu) of what's in the US national interest - which means an agreement to withdraw in exchange for a reopening of the Strait and something suitably doveish sounding on Iran's nuclear aspirations. Then back to observe and contain.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
Wouldn't she be assessed as Fluent? Or is this another metric that has been completely fucked up - because "we always measure the ability to speak English by the level of phlogiston in the air" ?
She was fluent, but still considered EAL for statistical purposes.
Ah. Another triumph of process.
"Speaking English" for officialdom is not actually related to your ability to speak English?
No. It’s Goodwin who has abused the official term, not a fault of officialdom. The system doesn’t say EAL means you can’t speak English.
To be fair, Goodwin did not say they can't speak English though, did he?
Though others may have inferred that from his comment, it was not actually claimed.
That's the way these shit stirrers act, claim something defensible, then let others infer there is more to it, when there is not.
But because of the nature of the term, it's a silly metric to use.
Technically I would be EAL and although I was born in England my parents were not. I can however speak English fairly well,* and most people who meet me think I am English. I'd consider myself fully integrated into English society. So why should I be used to further his bizarre claims? Especially when he says nothing will change his mind on the subject.
*In case anyone thinks otherwise, there was a touch of sarcasm in this comment.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
Wouldn't she be assessed as Fluent? Or is this another metric that has been completely fucked up - because "we always measure the ability to speak English by the level of phlogiston in the air" ?
She was fluent, but still considered EAL for statistical purposes.
Ah. Another triumph of process.
"Speaking English" for officialdom is not actually related to your ability to speak English?
No. It’s Goodwin who has abused the official term, not a fault of officialdom. The system doesn’t say EAL means you can’t speak English.
To be fair, Goodwin did not say they can't speak English though, did he?
Though others may have inferred that from his comment, it was not actually claimed.
That's the way these shit stirrers act, claim something defensible, then let others infer there is more to it, when there is not.
He does say they don’t speak English as their main language, and that’s similar to but not what EAL assesses.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
Wouldn't she be assessed as Fluent? Or is this another metric that has been completely fucked up - because "we always measure the ability to speak English by the level of phlogiston in the air" ?
She was fluent, but still considered EAL for statistical purposes.
Ah. Another triumph of process.
"Speaking English" for officialdom is not actually related to your ability to speak English?
No. It’s Goodwin who has abused the official term, not a fault of officialdom. The system doesn’t say EAL means you can’t speak English.
To be fair, Goodwin did not say they can't speak English though, did he?
Though others may have inferred that from his comment, it was not actually claimed.
That's the way these shit stirrers act, claim something defensible, then let others infer there is more to it, when there is not.
It's a three stage game
1) Quote a number, and then editorialise over it. 2) Get push back over the issue 3) Fact checkers say the number is actually correct. 4) Claim that 3) justifies the editorialising on 1)
The basic concept is traditional in politics. But the populist extremes love this.
The way to short circuit it is to provide clear, unambiguous data, frequently. The problem with that is that the UK government traditionally believes that information is dangerous. Especially to their policies.
I see that the far-left takeover of the (no longer) Green Party means that they are now infested with antisemites.
Since the pitiful 'Greens are anti NATO' tactic has proved entirely fruitless, obviously the media is now going full on Maoist bicycle on the road to Auschwitz. Possibly won't work as well as it did with Jezza because as far as I know the Greens don't have an active section of the party plotting to bring down Zack.
The sense of entitlement from Labour is extreme.
The exodus to the Greens is not being driven by anti-semitism, it is being driven by the Reform-adjacent policies of the Labour Party.
As a committed pro-semite (I'm technically Jewish and I was brought up on accounts of the horrors of 30s Germany and the necessity of Israel), I've really had enough of Netanyahu and current Israeli policy, and that doesn't make me an anti-semite. Obviously burning Jewish ambulances is both wrong and stupid, but I don't think that being critical of Israeli policy qualifies at all.
Netanyahu has done more for anti-semitism than anyone could have expected.
"the necessity of Israel" - maybe it's because I'm not Jewish, but I've never understood how a genocide on one continent, however appalling, legitimises subsequent ethnic cleansing of a group of people completely innocent of that crime in another. Nor how moving to a country surrounded by enemies who are committed to destroying you makes you much safer.
It reminds me a little of the logic of a white South African family friend who told me in Cape Town a few years ago that he had fled from Britain in 1970 (then 1% black) to South Africa (80% black) to avoid the Rivers of Blood and the black man's whip hand that Enoch Powell had forecast. He could clearly only find the safety he craved with systematic oppression of the indigenous majority, and, anyway, it probably wouldn't work in the long run.
Israel is majority Jewish though and the only Jewish majority nation on earth, so a homeland Jews will always defend as their only sure sanctuary.
South Africa has never been majority white but there are plenty of majority white nations on earth still and in most of Eastern Europe it is still almost 100% white
But Israel is clearly not a sure sanctuary, is it? It is surrounded by countries that hate it, and have nearly wiped it off the map three times in its short life. The only reason it survived was American goodwill, which it is now losing.
And, day to day, rockets are fired into the country from its neighbours and paranoid security is a part of everyday life, that makes the whole country feel like a mixture of an armed camp, with three years' military service for men and two for women, and an airport since 9/11. Terrorists pointlessly murdered 1,200 just a couple of years ago. So in fact Jews are actually far safer in the European democracies they left after the Second World War.
So even on its own terms, providing sanctuary for Jews, Israel has been a complete failure.
And a morally appalling one given the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian Arabs and the terrorism against the legitimate authorities which were its founding achievements.
Natanyahu is out-performing Adolf Hitler in branding and putting a target on the back of every Jewish person on the Planet.
He is turning Israel, and by it's definition Jewish people in to targets.
Had anyone said this a few years ago they would have been certified, now the majority see it, feel it , sense it.
When anyone (quite rightly) attacks ANTI SEMITISM - they need to attack the source. The source is NETANYAHU and his cabal in Tel Aviv.
Eradicate him and his cabal, bring decency and honesty back in to Israeli politics DE-ESCALATE and sure as night follows day, anti semitism aroumd the Globe will reduce and de-escalate too!
It needs a moderate Jew to take Netanyahu out, we can only hope someone steps up to the plate, in the l leftl same way a moderate Russian would with Putin.
I agree that Bibi over the last 30 years has a body count heading into the lower numbers of Hitler territory.
Nobody despises Netanyahu more than I do, but more than 7 million people, including around 1.8 million non-Jewish people, died in the Holocaust, not counting other acts of genocide against Poles, Russians and the dead of the occupied countries of Western Europe.
Netanyahu is a Tristram, but he is not that much of a Tristram. Comparing him to Hitler just gives Netanyahu an undeserved moral high ground.
Horthy or Mussolini would be a better parallel, especially Horthy.
I don't believe one should consider gradations of unmitigated evil. Stalin, Hitler, Bibi and Trump fit the frame, and Trump's body count is barely out of the traps.
Hitler was quite open about who he killed and his regime was rather good at recording the details. Bibi, not so much.
Many of Bibi's casualties are buried under rubble never to be found in Gaza, Lebanon and elsewhere, and others have been removed by covert activity across the World. I would be surprised if Bibi's body count doesn't reach 7 figures. I would suggest the 80,000 Gazan casualties is an enormous under estimation. And who would believe Hamas metrics?
You may suggest that but it is extremely unlikely you are correct. 80,000 dead is almost certainly the upper limit if only because Hamas would count every 'possible' in their figure to make Israel look worse. Even if we reduce it by a third, as people who may have been displaced and not reunited with their families and for a certain amount of double counting (again, likely an upper limit for that number) the figures are bad enough, but it's comparable to the number who died in the Blitz and far lower than the numbers who died in Dresden, Cologne, Pforzheim and Hamburg.
Just to make some other obvious points Netanyahu has not stolen the possessions of dead Palestinians and sold them to line his own pocket, he hasn't cut their hair off to make blankets, and he hasn't had the fat used from cremating them used to make soap (the soap issued to Poles had 42% human fat content). These were all things done on the orders of Hitler.
Netanyahu is bad but not that bad (heck, even Putin isn't that bad although I wouldn't go bail for Xi). Don't give him alibis.
The soap thing is a myth, fwiw.
Unfortunately not. I thought it was too until I made a research trip to Poland on the subject and investigated the documentation.
On Farage and Churchill, apparently Farage is not Right Wing and Churchill was a traitor.
Comments on the David Frum video: "The Far-Right Algorithm: Anti-Churchill, Anti-West "
@goyonman9655 15 hours ago Farage is not a right-winger Stop this nonsense
He says himself that his biggest achievment is stopping the Right.
And churchill is a traitor who threw away the british empire over a atupid war
This is In response to my restrained comment on Frum's overegging of putting squirrels on £5 notes being some kind of defenestration of our history:
Frum's stuff about Churchill being taken off the £5 note as an attack on "suppressing history" is a vast, almost self-satirical, overreach.
Churchill has only been on the £5 note since 2016, and the Bank of England consulted and we the people wanted natural history of the UK instead.
It is only the crusty garden-shed Right-wingers like Farage & writers for the Spectator, and the extreme Right, who are getting excited about it. https://youtu.be/3sa_a98wvsI?t=1051
Ah well !!
"we the people"... a self-selecting survey, on par with a voodoo poll.
Where does "voodoo poll" come from? I've never seen any evidence that Baron Samedi or Maman Brigitte endorse any polling methodologies, let alone self selected ones.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
My brother moved to Amsterdam when he was 22 and with his Dutch wife had two children. They are and were completely bi-lingual and there was no cuter sight than watching a six and four year old speaking in two languages and doing all the interpreting for two sets of grandparents.
That miserable man Goodwin really does miss out on the fun things in life
When I was a kid, a school friend had a Lebanese dad and a Chinese mum. His baby sister spoke Levantine Arabic, Mandarin and English, but hadn’t yet worked out that everyone else in the world can’t speak all three. She’d start a sentence in one language and complete it in another.
Thats fantastic. One of the things i like most about Lebanon is how they use three languages often in one sentence. Hi kifac ca va.....
“Trump is waging war based on instinct and it isn't working”
The first few paragraphs talk about plans, planning etc.
The BBC are sanewashing again. Trump didn't have a plan. It was just 'bomb because we can' and assume the Iranians would surrender and install Trump as the new Supreme leader. It really didn't go further than that.
The US continue NOT to have a plan. Are they going to launch a ground invasion? If so, where? What's the aim, what's the objective?
Well without a ground invasion it is unlikely to be able to remove the Iranian regime
How do you envisage a ground invasion removing the Iranian regime?
Well US and Israeli troops enter Tehran and literally remove the regime and Revolutionary Guard
What level of forces are required for that, and how many are in theatre?
10,000 US troops and marines are now in the region with more on the way. Israel would also send troops
2.7 million US military served in Vietnam between 1955 - 1975 and 58,279 died
They kept South Vietnam free of the Communists. The mistake was withdrawing them
You are a fool and/or deeply ignorant of the history.
I am not, the Democrat Congress pulled funding for the war forcing Ford to withdraw troops, had the US troops stayed Saigon would never have fallen to the Vietcong
Nixon started withdrawing troops in 69; signed a ceasefire in73, and withdrew all US troops that year. Basically in response to the impossibility of winning, the massive unpopularity and unaffordability of the war, and the collapse of morale in the US army.
You have no knowledge of the history.
On the other hand, the North Vietnamese ground offensive that ended the war was predicated on the withdrawal of military support.
Many South Vietnamese units fought until they ran out of ammunition.
The war killed maybe a tenth of the entire Vietnamese population; it came close to bankrupting the US, and ended at least one presidency.
U.S. efforts only increased the number of VC in the South. They recruited as many as they killed.
And an attempt to conquer and hold Tehran, to change the regime, would be 20 times worse. It's much bigger, it's all mountains, it has a large sophisticated army, they don't live in huts
Even Trump isn't that mad. One hopes
Apparently what's more likely is him trying to 'do a number' on Kharg Island.
Of all his countless defects it's his out-of-his-depthness that is probably the most concerning right now.
Actually, I think seizing Kharg Island makes sense IF you have decided to escalate. It's risky but it's an obvious pressure point, from what I've read. America can then strangle Iranian oil exports and also get a base for actions on the mainland. Unfortunately, to my amateur mind, it only makes sense if Trump is prepared to go all in: to combine this with extreme bombing of Iran, pulverising them into surrender. And yes, nukes, maybe
It's slid into a 'wouldn't have started from here' situation with only bad options. I'm hoping that in a revolutionary reversal of the norm he surprises on the upside with a hard-headed calculation (uninfluenced by Netanyahu) of what's in the US national interest - which means an agreement to withdraw in exchange for a reopening of the Strait and something suitably doveish sounding on Iran's nuclear aspirations. Then back to observe and contain.
The problem with Kharg Island afaics is that it is only 25km off the coast, so entirely within range of artillery and fibre-optic FPV drones.
The USA sent Ukrainians offering help and advice packing (shades of the pre-Second Happy Time in 1942), and said they had nothing to learn, and now they may have lessons 2 through 43 coming to Kharg Island.
The problem is not EAL students, Mr Goodwin. As others have said, EAL disguises a very wide range of ability in written and spoken English. We should be envying, not denigrating, those who become fluent in more than one language.
A real problem is 'native' students for whom English is their first language. Far too few of them learn a second language to any standard these days. And, sadly, many get through schooling without being able to write or articulate very well in their first language, English.
Weird guy, leaning into the whole 'JD is weird' thing.
The "demons" thing is interesting - not the language I would expect from a newly minted born-again Traditionalist Right Wing Roman Catholic, who takes it upon himself to assert that the Pope and all the Bishops are just wrong.
Zeal of the convert. Or as the meme puts it,
Every lifelong Catholic I've ever met is like "I think we're supposed to give this food to poor people" and every adult convert is like "the Archon of Constantinople's epistle on the Pentacostine rites of the eucharist clearly states women shouldn't have driver's licenses."
Weird guy, leaning into the whole 'JD is weird' thing.
The "demons" thing is interesting - not the language I would expect from a newly minted born-again Traditionalist Right Wing Roman Catholic, who takes it upon himself to assert that the Pope and all the Bishops are just wrong.
Zeal of the convert. Or as the meme puts it,
Every lifelong Catholic I've ever met is like "I think we're supposed to give this food to poor people" and every adult convert is like "the Archon of Constantinople's epistle on the Pentacostine rites of the eucharist clearly states women shouldn't have driver's licenses."
I guess it is not a very comfortable position to be a fellow traveller of Pete Hegseth !
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
Brixham59 just fires from the hip.. a scatter gun approach. The truth is a casualty in anything this person writes.. its just smear.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
Wouldn't she be assessed as Fluent? Or is this another metric that has been completely fucked up - because "we always measure the ability to speak English by the level of phlogiston in the air" ?
She was fluent, but still considered EAL for statistical purposes.
Ah. Another triumph of process.
"Speaking English" for officialdom is not actually related to your ability to speak English?
No. It’s Goodwin who has abused the official term, not a fault of officialdom. The system doesn’t say EAL means you can’t speak English.
To be fair, Goodwin did not say they can't speak English though, did he?
Though others may have inferred that from his comment, it was not actually claimed.
That's the way these shit stirrers act, claim something defensible, then let others infer there is more to it, when there is not.
He does say they don’t speak English as their main language, and that’s similar to but not what EAL assesses.
For example, imagine a Ukrainian family come over to the UK. The dad speaks Russian and the mum speaks surzhyk, although they're both making an effor to learn formal Ukrainian given the politics and are getting better at English. The child has grown up speaking Russian, but now goes to an English language school. He's learnt English rapidly and speaks it (or types it on social media) with his friends. After a few years, you get a common scenario where the parents speak Russian to the child, but the child answers in English. English is the child's main language, his Russian is clumsy and he can't spell it well, but he counts as "EAL".
“Trump is waging war based on instinct and it isn't working”
The first few paragraphs talk about plans, planning etc.
The BBC are sanewashing again. Trump didn't have a plan. It was just 'bomb because we can' and assume the Iranians would surrender and install Trump as the new Supreme leader. It really didn't go further than that.
The US continue NOT to have a plan. Are they going to launch a ground invasion? If so, where? What's the aim, what's the objective?
Well without a ground invasion it is unlikely to be able to remove the Iranian regime
How do you envisage a ground invasion removing the Iranian regime?
Well US and Israeli troops enter Tehran and literally remove the regime and Revolutionary Guard
What level of forces are required for that, and how many are in theatre?
10,000 US troops and marines are now in the region with more on the way. Israel would also send troops
2.7 million US military served in Vietnam between 1955 - 1975 and 58,279 died
They kept South Vietnam free of the Communists. The mistake was withdrawing them
You are a fool and/or deeply ignorant of the history.
I am not, the Democrat Congress pulled funding for the war forcing Ford to withdraw troops, had the US troops stayed Saigon would never have fallen to the Vietcong
Nixon started withdrawing troops in 69; signed a ceasefire in73, and withdrew all US troops that year. Basically in response to the impossibility of winning, the massive unpopularity and unaffordability of the war, and the collapse of morale in the US army.
You have no knowledge of the history.
On the other hand, the North Vietnamese ground offensive that ended the war was predicated on the withdrawal of military support.
Many South Vietnamese units fought until they ran out of ammunition.
The war killed maybe a tenth of the entire Vietnamese population; it came close to bankrupting the US, and ended at least one presidency.
U.S. efforts only increased the number of VC in the South. They recruited as many as they killed.
North Vietnam started the war when it invaded Laos and attacked South Vietnam in the Tet offensive.
The US should never have withdrawn troops from South Vietnam as I said
Quite. It may have stopped the Vietnamese fighting China to a standstill some years later. Beating two Superpowers in one decade is almost Afghan levels of success.
If you have skin in the game, you have more motivation which seems to have passed the US by, Israel not.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
Wouldn't she be assessed as Fluent? Or is this another metric that has been completely fucked up - because "we always measure the ability to speak English by the level of phlogiston in the air" ?
She was fluent, but still considered EAL for statistical purposes.
Ah. Another triumph of process.
"Speaking English" for officialdom is not actually related to your ability to speak English?
No. It’s Goodwin who has abused the official term, not a fault of officialdom. The system doesn’t say EAL means you can’t speak English.
To be fair, Goodwin did not say they can't speak English though, did he?
Though others may have inferred that from his comment, it was not actually claimed.
That's the way these shit stirrers act, claim something defensible, then let others infer there is more to it, when there is not.
It's a three stage game
1) Quote a number, and then editorialise over it. 2) Get push back over the issue 3) Fact checkers say the number is actually correct. 4) Claim that 3) justifies the editorialising on 1)
The basic concept is traditional in politics. But the populist extremes love this.
The way to short circuit it is to provide clear, unambiguous data, frequently. The problem with that is that the UK government traditionally believes that information is dangerous. Especially to their policies.
Avoiding publishing the numbers doesn't help. But then again, neither does publishing the numbers.
The best answer is for everyone to say, "yes, but does that number mean anything?" Which is mostly about having capable people asking the questions.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
An important point. A kid may start primary school at 5 with no English. Everything being equal they'll be fluent within the year. Whilst it still not being their main language.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
Wouldn't she be assessed as Fluent? Or is this another metric that has been completely fucked up - because "we always measure the ability to speak English by the level of phlogiston in the air" ?
She was fluent, but still considered EAL for statistical purposes.
Ah. Another triumph of process.
"Speaking English" for officialdom is not actually related to your ability to speak English?
No. It’s Goodwin who has abused the official term, not a fault of officialdom. The system doesn’t say EAL means you can’t speak English.
To be fair, Goodwin did not say they can't speak English though, did he?
Though others may have inferred that from his comment, it was not actually claimed.
That's the way these shit stirrers act, claim something defensible, then let others infer there is more to it, when there is not.
It's a three stage game
1) Quote a number, and then editorialise over it. 2) Get push back over the issue 3) Fact checkers say the number is actually correct. 4) Claim that 3) justifies the editorialising on 1)
The basic concept is traditional in politics. But the populist extremes love this.
The way to short circuit it is to provide clear, unambiguous data, frequently. The problem with that is that the UK government traditionally believes that information is dangerous. Especially to their policies.
Avoiding publishing the numbers doesn't help. But then again, neither does publishing the numbers.
The best answer is for everyone to say, "yes, but does that number mean anything?" Which is mostly about having capable people asking the questions.
I'm not so sure about publication. If we had more data available, someone at the University of Whatever would have replaced on Twatter that the actual number of schools where the majority of pupils can't speak English to attainment level X is actually Y.
Instead we are left with people doing selective FOI to further agendas.
I could write an header on Thames river levels, what they mean and why the PLA is being an arse about it. And hiding data. But that would probably trip a demand for more headers on trans.
I see that the far-left takeover of the (no longer) Green Party means that they are now infested with antisemites.
Since the pitiful 'Greens are anti NATO' tactic has proved entirely fruitless, obviously the media is now going full on Maoist bicycle on the road to Auschwitz. Possibly won't work as well as it did with Jezza because as far as I know the Greens don't have an active section of the party plotting to bring down Zack.
The sense of entitlement from Labour is extreme.
The exodus to the Greens is not being driven by anti-semitism, it is being driven by the Reform-adjacent policies of the Labour Party.
As a committed pro-semite (I'm technically Jewish and I was brought up on accounts of the horrors of 30s Germany and the necessity of Israel), I've really had enough of Netanyahu and current Israeli policy, and that doesn't make me an anti-semite. Obviously burning Jewish ambulances is both wrong and stupid, but I don't think that being critical of Israeli policy qualifies at all.
Netanyahu has done more for anti-semitism than anyone could have expected.
"the necessity of Israel" - maybe it's because I'm not Jewish, but I've never understood how a genocide on one continent, however appalling, legitimises subsequent ethnic cleansing of a group of people completely innocent of that crime in another. Nor how moving to a country surrounded by enemies who are committed to destroying you makes you much safer.
It reminds me a little of the logic of a white South African family friend who told me in Cape Town a few years ago that he had fled from Britain in 1970 (then 1% black) to South Africa (80% black) to avoid the Rivers of Blood and the black man's whip hand that Enoch Powell had forecast. He could clearly only find the safety he craved with systematic oppression of the indigenous majority, and, anyway, it probably wouldn't work in the long run.
Israel is majority Jewish though and the only Jewish majority nation on earth, so a homeland Jews will always defend as their only sure sanctuary.
South Africa has never been majority white but there are plenty of majority white nations on earth still and in most of Eastern Europe it is still almost 100% white
But Israel is clearly not a sure sanctuary, is it? It is surrounded by countries that hate it, and have nearly wiped it off the map three times in its short life. The only reason it survived was American goodwill, which it is now losing.
And, day to day, rockets are fired into the country from its neighbours and paranoid security is a part of everyday life, that makes the whole country feel like a mixture of an armed camp, with three years' military service for men and two for women, and an airport since 9/11. Terrorists pointlessly murdered 1,200 just a couple of years ago. So in fact Jews are actually far safer in the European democracies they left after the Second World War.
So even on its own terms, providing sanctuary for Jews, Israel has been a complete failure.
And a morally appalling one given the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian Arabs and the terrorism against the legitimate authorities which were its founding achievements.
Natanyahu is out-performing Adolf Hitler in branding and putting a target on the back of every Jewish person on the Planet.
He is turning Israel, and by it's definition Jewish people in to targets.
Had anyone said this a few years ago they would have been certified, now the majority see it, feel it , sense it.
When anyone (quite rightly) attacks ANTI SEMITISM - they need to attack the source. The source is NETANYAHU and his cabal in Tel Aviv.
Eradicate him and his cabal, bring decency and honesty back in to Israeli politics DE-ESCALATE and sure as night follows day, anti semitism aroumd the Globe will reduce and de-escalate too!
It needs a moderate Jew to take Netanyahu out, we can only hope someone steps up to the plate, in the l leftl same way a moderate Russian would with Putin.
I agree that Bibi over the last 30 years has a body count heading into the lower numbers of Hitler territory.
Nobody despises Netanyahu more than I do, but more than 7 million people, including around 1.8 million non-Jewish people, died in the Holocaust, not counting other acts of genocide against Poles, Russians and the dead of the occupied countries of Western Europe.
Netanyahu is a Tristram, but he is not that much of a Tristram. Comparing him to Hitler just gives Netanyahu an undeserved moral high ground.
Horthy or Mussolini would be a better parallel, especially Horthy.
I don't believe one should consider gradations of unmitigated evil. Stalin, Hitler, Bibi and Trump fit the frame, and Trump's body count is barely out of the traps.
Hitler was quite open about who he killed and his regime was rather good at recording the details. Bibi, not so much.
Many of Bibi's casualties are buried under rubble never to be found in Gaza, Lebanon and elsewhere, and others have been removed by covert activity across the World. I would be surprised if Bibi's body count doesn't reach 7 figures. I would suggest the 80,000 Gazan casualties is an enormous under estimation. And who would believe Hamas metrics?
You may suggest that but it is extremely unlikely you are correct. 80,000 dead is almost certainly the upper limit if only because Hamas would count every 'possible' in their figure to make Israel look worse. Even if we reduce it by a third, as people who may have been displaced and not reunited with their families and for a certain amount of double counting (again, likely an upper limit for that number) the figures are bad enough, but it's comparable to the number who died in the Blitz and far lower than the numbers who died in Dresden, Cologne, Pforzheim and Hamburg.
Just to make some other obvious points Netanyahu has not stolen the possessions of dead Palestinians and sold them to line his own pocket, he hasn't cut their hair off to make blankets, and he hasn't had the fat used from cremating them used to make soap (the soap issued to Poles had 42% human fat content). These were all things done on the orders of Hitler.
Netanyahu is bad but not that bad (heck, even Putin isn't that bad although I wouldn't go bail for Xi). Don't give him alibis.
The soap thing is a myth, fwiw.
Unfortunately not. I thought it was too until I made a research trip to Poland on the subject and investigated the documentation.
You probably want to let Yad Vashem know then... they're consistent on it.
“Trump is waging war based on instinct and it isn't working”
The first few paragraphs talk about plans, planning etc.
The BBC are sanewashing again. Trump didn't have a plan. It was just 'bomb because we can' and assume the Iranians would surrender and install Trump as the new Supreme leader. It really didn't go further than that.
The US continue NOT to have a plan. Are they going to launch a ground invasion? If so, where? What's the aim, what's the objective?
Well without a ground invasion it is unlikely to be able to remove the Iranian regime
How do you envisage a ground invasion removing the Iranian regime?
Well US and Israeli troops enter Tehran and literally remove the regime and Revolutionary Guard
What level of forces are required for that, and how many are in theatre?
10,000 US troops and marines are now in the region with more on the way. Israel would also send troops
2.7 million US military served in Vietnam between 1955 - 1975 and 58,279 died
They kept South Vietnam free of the Communists. The mistake was withdrawing them
You are a fool and/or deeply ignorant of the history.
I am not, the Democrat Congress pulled funding for the war forcing Ford to withdraw troops, had the US troops stayed Saigon would never have fallen to the Vietcong
Nixon started withdrawing troops in 69; signed a ceasefire in73, and withdrew all US troops that year. Basically in response to the impossibility of winning, the massive unpopularity and unaffordability of the war, and the collapse of morale in the US army.
You have no knowledge of the history.
On the other hand, the North Vietnamese ground offensive that ended the war was predicated on the withdrawal of military support.
Many South Vietnamese units fought until they ran out of ammunition.
The war killed maybe a tenth of the entire Vietnamese population; it came close to bankrupting the US, and ended at least one presidency.
U.S. efforts only increased the number of VC in the South. They recruited as many as they killed.
And an attempt to conquer and hold Tehran, to change the regime, would be 20 times worse. It's much bigger, it's all mountains, it has a large sophisticated army, they don't live in huts
Even Trump isn't that mad. One hopes
Apparently what's more likely is him trying to 'do a number' on Kharg Island.
Of all his countless defects it's his out-of-his-depthness that is probably the most concerning right now.
Actually, I think seizing Kharg Island makes sense IF you have decided to escalate. It's risky but it's an obvious pressure point, from what I've read. America can then strangle Iranian oil exports and also get a base for actions on the mainland. Unfortunately, to my amateur mind, it only makes sense if Trump is prepared to go all in: to combine this with extreme bombing of Iran, pulverising them into surrender. And yes, nukes, maybe
It's slid into a 'wouldn't have started from here' situation with only bad options. I'm hoping that in a revolutionary reversal of the norm he surprises on the upside with a hard-headed calculation (uninfluenced by Netanyahu) of what's in the US national interest - which means an agreement to withdraw in exchange for a reopening of the Strait and something suitably doveish sounding on Iran's nuclear aspirations. Then back to observe and contain.
Observe, contain and prepare.
The Gulf Arabs should be told that they need to immediately build pipelines and other facilities to avoid Hormuz.
And if that means that they no longer fund sport then that's something the likes of Manchester City will have to put up with.
I see that the far-left takeover of the (no longer) Green Party means that they are now infested with antisemites.
Since the pitiful 'Greens are anti NATO' tactic has proved entirely fruitless, obviously the media is now going full on Maoist bicycle on the road to Auschwitz. Possibly won't work as well as it did with Jezza because as far as I know the Greens don't have an active section of the party plotting to bring down Zack.
The sense of entitlement from Labour is extreme.
The exodus to the Greens is not being driven by anti-semitism, it is being driven by the Reform-adjacent policies of the Labour Party.
As a committed pro-semite (I'm technically Jewish and I was brought up on accounts of the horrors of 30s Germany and the necessity of Israel), I've really had enough of Netanyahu and current Israeli policy, and that doesn't make me an anti-semite. Obviously burning Jewish ambulances is both wrong and stupid, but I don't think that being critical of Israeli policy qualifies at all.
Netanyahu has done more for anti-semitism than anyone could have expected.
"the necessity of Israel" - maybe it's because I'm not Jewish, but I've never understood how a genocide on one continent, however appalling, legitimises subsequent ethnic cleansing of a group of people completely innocent of that crime in another. Nor how moving to a country surrounded by enemies who are committed to destroying you makes you much safer.
It reminds me a little of the logic of a white South African family friend who told me in Cape Town a few years ago that he had fled from Britain in 1970 (then 1% black) to South Africa (80% black) to avoid the Rivers of Blood and the black man's whip hand that Enoch Powell had forecast. He could clearly only find the safety he craved with systematic oppression of the indigenous majority, and, anyway, it probably wouldn't work in the long run.
Israel is majority Jewish though and the only Jewish majority nation on earth, so a homeland Jews will always defend as their only sure sanctuary.
South Africa has never been majority white but there are plenty of majority white nations on earth still and in most of Eastern Europe it is still almost 100% white
But Israel is clearly not a sure sanctuary, is it? It is surrounded by countries that hate it, and have nearly wiped it off the map three times in its short life. The only reason it survived was American goodwill, which it is now losing.
And, day to day, rockets are fired into the country from its neighbours and paranoid security is a part of everyday life, that makes the whole country feel like a mixture of an armed camp, with three years' military service for men and two for women, and an airport since 9/11. Terrorists pointlessly murdered 1,200 just a couple of years ago. So in fact Jews are actually far safer in the European democracies they left after the Second World War.
So even on its own terms, providing sanctuary for Jews, Israel has been a complete failure.
And a morally appalling one given the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian Arabs and the terrorism against the legitimate authorities which were its founding achievements.
Natanyahu is out-performing Adolf Hitler in branding and putting a target on the back of every Jewish person on the Planet.
He is turning Israel, and by it's definition Jewish people in to targets.
Had anyone said this a few years ago they would have been certified, now the majority see it, feel it , sense it.
When anyone (quite rightly) attacks ANTI SEMITISM - they need to attack the source. The source is NETANYAHU and his cabal in Tel Aviv.
Eradicate him and his cabal, bring decency and honesty back in to Israeli politics DE-ESCALATE and sure as night follows day, anti semitism aroumd the Globe will reduce and de-escalate too!
It needs a moderate Jew to take Netanyahu out, we can only hope someone steps up to the plate, in the l leftl same way a moderate Russian would with Putin.
I agree that Bibi over the last 30 years has a body count heading into the lower numbers of Hitler territory.
Nobody despises Netanyahu more than I do, but more than 7 million people, including around 1.8 million non-Jewish people, died in the Holocaust, not counting other acts of genocide against Poles, Russians and the dead of the occupied countries of Western Europe.
Netanyahu is a Tristram, but he is not that much of a Tristram. Comparing him to Hitler just gives Netanyahu an undeserved moral high ground.
Horthy or Mussolini would be a better parallel, especially Horthy.
I don't believe one should consider gradations of unmitigated evil. Stalin, Hitler, Bibi and Trump fit the frame, and Trump's body count is barely out of the traps.
Hitler was quite open about who he killed and his regime was rather good at recording the details. Bibi, not so much.
Many of Bibi's casualties are buried under rubble never to be found in Gaza, Lebanon and elsewhere, and others have been removed by covert activity across the World. I would be surprised if Bibi's body count doesn't reach 7 figures. I would suggest the 80,000 Gazan casualties is an enormous under estimation. And who would believe Hamas metrics?
You may suggest that but it is extremely unlikely you are correct. 80,000 dead is almost certainly the upper limit if only because Hamas would count every 'possible' in their figure to make Israel look worse. Even if we reduce it by a third, as people who may have been displaced and not reunited with their families and for a certain amount of double counting (again, likely an upper limit for that number) the figures are bad enough, but it's comparable to the number who died in the Blitz and far lower than the numbers who died in Dresden, Cologne, Pforzheim and Hamburg.
Just to make some other obvious points Netanyahu has not stolen the possessions of dead Palestinians and sold them to line his own pocket, he hasn't cut their hair off to make blankets, and he hasn't had the fat used from cremating them used to make soap (the soap issued to Poles had 42% human fat content). These were all things done on the orders of Hitler.
Netanyahu is bad but not that bad (heck, even Putin isn't that bad although I wouldn't go bail for Xi). Don't give him alibis.
The soap thing is a myth, fwiw.
Unfortunately not. I thought it was too until I made a research trip to Poland on the subject and investigated the documentation.
You probably want to let Yad Vashem know then... they're consistent on it.
Really? I visited them the year after visiting Poland and they seemed to think it was likely factual as well. Do you have a source?
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
The main thing is... so what? It might be causing a fail in community cohesion if pupils never get fluent in English. It might be diverting an unreasonable amount of resource to get pupils up to speed in English. Or (and I suspect this is the case) it's an unattached figure, a number whose meaning has to be implied because if you say the meaning out loud, it falls apart.
(As in one step beyond Huff's Semi-Attached Figure. I have been reading How to Lie with Statistics again recently. Does it show?)
There is a conflation of non-English speakers with those whose first language is not English. That is not the same thing at all.
My wife before recently retiring taught in a school which almost certainly falls under Goodwin's definition.
Certainly language was an issue - pupils came from families with (I think) over thirty different first languages. But even the few who couldn't speak English when they started learned; that's what school does.
Far bigger problems were grossly inadequate provision for children with extreme SEN (who a couple of decades back would have been in separate schools), parental neglect/abuse, and poor school management management.
“Trump is waging war based on instinct and it isn't working”
The first few paragraphs talk about plans, planning etc.
The BBC are sanewashing again. Trump didn't have a plan. It was just 'bomb because we can' and assume the Iranians would surrender and install Trump as the new Supreme leader. It really didn't go further than that.
The US continue NOT to have a plan. Are they going to launch a ground invasion? If so, where? What's the aim, what's the objective?
Well without a ground invasion it is unlikely to be able to remove the Iranian regime
How do you envisage a ground invasion removing the Iranian regime?
Well US and Israeli troops enter Tehran and literally remove the regime and Revolutionary Guard
What level of forces are required for that, and how many are in theatre?
10,000 US troops and marines are now in the region with more on the way. Israel would also send troops
2.7 million US military served in Vietnam between 1955 - 1975 and 58,279 died
They kept South Vietnam free of the Communists. The mistake was withdrawing them
You are a fool and/or deeply ignorant of the history.
I am not, the Democrat Congress pulled funding for the war forcing Ford to withdraw troops, had the US troops stayed Saigon would never have fallen to the Vietcong
Nixon started withdrawing troops in 69; signed a ceasefire in73, and withdrew all US troops that year. Basically in response to the impossibility of winning, the massive unpopularity and unaffordability of the war, and the collapse of morale in the US army.
You have no knowledge of the history.
On the other hand, the North Vietnamese ground offensive that ended the war was predicated on the withdrawal of military support.
Many South Vietnamese units fought until they ran out of ammunition.
The war killed maybe a tenth of the entire Vietnamese population; it came close to bankrupting the US, and ended at least one presidency.
U.S. efforts only increased the number of VC in the South. They recruited as many as they killed.
And an attempt to conquer and hold Tehran, to change the regime, would be 20 times worse. It's much bigger, it's all mountains, it has a large sophisticated army, they don't live in huts
Even Trump isn't that mad. One hopes
Apparently what's more likely is him trying to 'do a number' on Kharg Island.
Of all his countless defects it's his out-of-his-depthness that is probably the most concerning right now.
Actually, I think seizing Kharg Island makes sense IF you have decided to escalate. It's risky but it's an obvious pressure point, from what I've read. America can then strangle Iranian oil exports and also get a base for actions on the mainland. Unfortunately, to my amateur mind, it only makes sense if Trump is prepared to go all in: to combine this with extreme bombing of Iran, pulverising them into surrender. And yes, nukes, maybe
It's slid into a 'wouldn't have started from here' situation with only bad options. I'm hoping that in a revolutionary reversal of the norm he surprises on the upside with a hard-headed calculation (uninfluenced by Netanyahu) of what's in the US national interest - which means an agreement to withdraw in exchange for a reopening of the Strait and something suitably doveish sounding on Iran's nuclear aspirations. Then back to observe and contain.
Observe, contain and prepare.
The Gulf Arabs should be told that they need to immediately build pipelines and other facilities to avoid Hormuz.
And if that means that they no longer fund sport then that's something the likes of Manchester City will have to put up with.
According to someone I know who is in the pipeline business, the new pipelines and expanding old ones is baked in. To the point of ordering equipment.
As is putting x tons of sand over the existing ones and burying the new ones deep.
“Trump is waging war based on instinct and it isn't working”
The first few paragraphs talk about plans, planning etc.
The BBC are sanewashing again. Trump didn't have a plan. It was just 'bomb because we can' and assume the Iranians would surrender and install Trump as the new Supreme leader. It really didn't go further than that.
The US continue NOT to have a plan. Are they going to launch a ground invasion? If so, where? What's the aim, what's the objective?
Well without a ground invasion it is unlikely to be able to remove the Iranian regime
How do you envisage a ground invasion removing the Iranian regime?
Well US and Israeli troops enter Tehran and literally remove the regime and Revolutionary Guard
What level of forces are required for that, and how many are in theatre?
10,000 US troops and marines are now in the region with more on the way. Israel would also send troops
2.7 million US military served in Vietnam between 1955 - 1975 and 58,279 died
They kept South Vietnam free of the Communists. The mistake was withdrawing them
You are a fool and/or deeply ignorant of the history.
I am not, the Democrat Congress pulled funding for the war forcing Ford to withdraw troops, had the US troops stayed Saigon would never have fallen to the Vietcong
Nixon started withdrawing troops in 69; signed a ceasefire in73, and withdrew all US troops that year. Basically in response to the impossibility of winning, the massive unpopularity and unaffordability of the war, and the collapse of morale in the US army.
You have no knowledge of the history.
On the other hand, the North Vietnamese ground offensive that ended the war was predicated on the withdrawal of military support.
Many South Vietnamese units fought until they ran out of ammunition.
The war killed maybe a tenth of the entire Vietnamese population; it came close to bankrupting the US, and ended at least one presidency.
U.S. efforts only increased the number of VC in the South. They recruited as many as they killed.
And an attempt to conquer and hold Tehran, to change the regime, would be 20 times worse. It's much bigger, it's all mountains, it has a large sophisticated army, they don't live in huts
Even Trump isn't that mad. One hopes
Apparently what's more likely is him trying to 'do a number' on Kharg Island.
Of all his countless defects it's his out-of-his-depthness that is probably the most concerning right now.
Actually, I think seizing Kharg Island makes sense IF you have decided to escalate. It's risky but it's an obvious pressure point, from what I've read. America can then strangle Iranian oil exports and also get a base for actions on the mainland. Unfortunately, to my amateur mind, it only makes sense if Trump is prepared to go all in: to combine this with extreme bombing of Iran, pulverising them into surrender. And yes, nukes, maybe
It's slid into a 'wouldn't have started from here' situation with only bad options. I'm hoping that in a revolutionary reversal of the norm he surprises on the upside with a hard-headed calculation (uninfluenced by Netanyahu) of what's in the US national interest - which means an agreement to withdraw in exchange for a reopening of the Strait and something suitably doveish sounding on Iran's nuclear aspirations. Then back to observe and contain.
Observe, contain and prepare.
The Gulf Arabs should be told that they need to immediately build pipelines and other facilities to avoid Hormuz.
And if that means that they no longer fund sport then that's something the likes of Manchester City will have to put up with.
According to someone I know who is in the pipeline business, the new pipelines and expanding old ones is baked in. To the point of ordering equipment.
As is putting x tons of sand over the existing ones and burying the new ones deep.
But that's something that will take years.
Pity it wasn't baked in years ago instead of having spent all that money sportswashing.
“Trump is waging war based on instinct and it isn't working”
The first few paragraphs talk about plans, planning etc.
The BBC are sanewashing again. Trump didn't have a plan. It was just 'bomb because we can' and assume the Iranians would surrender and install Trump as the new Supreme leader. It really didn't go further than that.
The US continue NOT to have a plan. Are they going to launch a ground invasion? If so, where? What's the aim, what's the objective?
Well without a ground invasion it is unlikely to be able to remove the Iranian regime
How do you envisage a ground invasion removing the Iranian regime?
Well US and Israeli troops enter Tehran and literally remove the regime and Revolutionary Guard
What level of forces are required for that, and how many are in theatre?
10,000 US troops and marines are now in the region with more on the way. Israel would also send troops
2.7 million US military served in Vietnam between 1955 - 1975 and 58,279 died
They kept South Vietnam free of the Communists. The mistake was withdrawing them
You are a fool and/or deeply ignorant of the history.
I am not, the Democrat Congress pulled funding for the war forcing Ford to withdraw troops, had the US troops stayed Saigon would never have fallen to the Vietcong
Nixon started withdrawing troops in 69; signed a ceasefire in73, and withdrew all US troops that year. Basically in response to the impossibility of winning, the massive unpopularity and unaffordability of the war, and the collapse of morale in the US army.
You have no knowledge of the history.
On the other hand, the North Vietnamese ground offensive that ended the war was predicated on the withdrawal of military support.
Many South Vietnamese units fought until they ran out of ammunition.
The war killed maybe a tenth of the entire Vietnamese population; it came close to bankrupting the US, and ended at least one presidency.
U.S. efforts only increased the number of VC in the South. They recruited as many as they killed.
And an attempt to conquer and hold Tehran, to change the regime, would be 20 times worse. It's much bigger, it's all mountains, it has a large sophisticated army, they don't live in huts
Even Trump isn't that mad. One hopes
Apparently what's more likely is him trying to 'do a number' on Kharg Island.
Of all his countless defects it's his out-of-his-depthness that is probably the most concerning right now.
Actually, I think seizing Kharg Island makes sense IF you have decided to escalate. It's risky but it's an obvious pressure point, from what I've read. America can then strangle Iranian oil exports and also get a base for actions on the mainland. Unfortunately, to my amateur mind, it only makes sense if Trump is prepared to go all in: to combine this with extreme bombing of Iran, pulverising them into surrender. And yes, nukes, maybe
It's slid into a 'wouldn't have started from here' situation with only bad options. I'm hoping that in a revolutionary reversal of the norm he surprises on the upside with a hard-headed calculation (uninfluenced by Netanyahu) of what's in the US national interest - which means an agreement to withdraw in exchange for a reopening of the Strait and something suitably doveish sounding on Iran's nuclear aspirations. Then back to observe and contain.
Observe, contain and prepare.
The Gulf Arabs should be told that they need to immediately build pipelines and other facilities to avoid Hormuz.
And if that means that they no longer fund sport then that's something the likes of Manchester City will have to put up with.
According to someone I know who is in the pipeline business, the new pipelines and expanding old ones is baked in. To the point of ordering equipment.
As is putting x tons of sand over the existing ones and burying the new ones deep.
But that's something that will take years.
Pity it wasn't baked in years ago instead of having spent all that money sportswashing.
The Saudi pipeline is probably paying for itself right now
On Farage and Churchill, apparently Farage is not Right Wing and Churchill was a traitor.
Comments on the David Frum video: "The Far-Right Algorithm: Anti-Churchill, Anti-West "
@goyonman9655 15 hours ago Farage is not a right-winger Stop this nonsense
He says himself that his biggest achievment is stopping the Right.
And churchill is a traitor who threw away the british empire over a atupid war
This is In response to my restrained comment on Frum's overegging of putting squirrels on £5 notes being some kind of defenestration of our history:
Frum's stuff about Churchill being taken off the £5 note as an attack on "suppressing history" is a vast, almost self-satirical, overreach.
Churchill has only been on the £5 note since 2016, and the Bank of England consulted and we the people wanted natural history of the UK instead.
It is only the crusty garden-shed Right-wingers like Farage & writers for the Spectator, and the extreme Right, who are getting excited about it. https://youtu.be/3sa_a98wvsI?t=1051
Ah well !!
"we the people"... a self-selecting survey, on par with a voodoo poll.
Where does "voodoo poll" come from? I've never seen any evidence that Baron Samedi or Maman Brigitte endorse any polling methodologies, let alone self selected ones.
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
The main thing is... so what? It might be causing a fail in community cohesion if pupils never get fluent in English. It might be diverting an unreasonable amount of resource to get pupils up to speed in English. Or (and I suspect this is the case) it's an unattached figure, a number whose meaning has to be implied because if you say the meaning out loud, it falls apart.
(As in one step beyond Huff's Semi-Attached Figure. I have been reading How to Lie with Statistics again recently. Does it show?)
There is a conflation of non-English speakers with those whose first language is not English. That is not the same thing at all.
My wife before recently retiring taught in a school which almost certainly falls under Goodwin's definition.
Certainly language was an issue - pupils came from families with (I think) over thirty different first languages. But even the few who couldn't speak English when they started learned; that's what school does.
Far bigger problems were grossly inadequate provision for children with extreme SEN (who a couple of decades back would have been in separate schools), parental neglect/abuse, and poor school management management.
Thank you- I hadn't quite realised, but those probably are the dots that Goodwin is definitiely not joining, or encouraging anyone else to join.
The problem is not EAL students, Mr Goodwin. As others have said, EAL disguises a very wide range of ability in written and spoken English. We should be envying, not denigrating, those who become fluent in more than one language.
A real problem is 'native' students for whom English is their first language. Far too few of them learn a second language to any standard these days. And, sadly, many get through schooling without being able to write or articulate very well in their first language, English.
Notably those with EAL outperform native English speakers when it comes to educational achievement, with those milestones and qualifications taken in English.
Matt Goodwin has reached the point where even GB News panellists are trashing his book and in hysterics at his defence of his AI slop false citations where he used AI to prove he hadn’t used AI https://x.com/stuzi_pants/status/2038191593610526880
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
Care to tell me how much of an electric car is made of oil? Medicines, fertilisers, lubricants, coolants, most of modern life is made of oil. The computer, phone or tablet you are making your purile comments on is made of oil.
And not producing from the North Sea doesn't reduce or oil usage by a single barrel. It doesn't reduce our carbon emissions by a single gram. Indeed it increases our carbon emissions, at least a small amount, because of the transportation of oil and gas from around the world.
“Trump is waging war based on instinct and it isn't working”
The first few paragraphs talk about plans, planning etc.
The BBC are sanewashing again. Trump didn't have a plan. It was just 'bomb because we can' and assume the Iranians would surrender and install Trump as the new Supreme leader. It really didn't go further than that.
The US continue NOT to have a plan. Are they going to launch a ground invasion? If so, where? What's the aim, what's the objective?
Well without a ground invasion it is unlikely to be able to remove the Iranian regime
How do you envisage a ground invasion removing the Iranian regime?
Well US and Israeli troops enter Tehran and literally remove the regime and Revolutionary Guard
What level of forces are required for that, and how many are in theatre?
10,000 US troops and marines are now in the region with more on the way. Israel would also send troops
2.7 million US military served in Vietnam between 1955 - 1975 and 58,279 died
They kept South Vietnam free of the Communists. The mistake was withdrawing them
You are a fool and/or deeply ignorant of the history.
I am not, the Democrat Congress pulled funding for the war forcing Ford to withdraw troops, had the US troops stayed Saigon would never have fallen to the Vietcong
Nixon started withdrawing troops in 69; signed a ceasefire in73, and withdrew all US troops that year. Basically in response to the impossibility of winning, the massive unpopularity and unaffordability of the war, and the collapse of morale in the US army.
You have no knowledge of the history.
On the other hand, the North Vietnamese ground offensive that ended the war was predicated on the withdrawal of military support.
Many South Vietnamese units fought until they ran out of ammunition.
The war killed maybe a tenth of the entire Vietnamese population; it came close to bankrupting the US, and ended at least one presidency.
U.S. efforts only increased the number of VC in the South. They recruited as many as they killed.
And an attempt to conquer and hold Tehran, to change the regime, would be 20 times worse. It's much bigger, it's all mountains, it has a large sophisticated army, they don't live in huts
Even Trump isn't that mad. One hopes
They may convince themselves that they don't need to hold the place, simply turn up, wreck face and then withdraw. There's a lot of nihilism about.
Deuce Bigalow "who does not have a history of military service" (lol) calls for a draft to be instituted for the upcoming Iranian invasion. https://x.com/EW/status/2037958330824401198
The only way Israel can govern the Gaza Strip without becoming an external oppressor of “another people” is to remove “the other people” from the confines of the Gaza Strip itself. https://x.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/2037794771058495738
I see that the far-left takeover of the (no longer) Green Party means that they are now infested with antisemites.
Since the pitiful 'Greens are anti NATO' tactic has proved entirely fruitless, obviously the media is now going full on Maoist bicycle on the road to Auschwitz. Possibly won't work as well as it did with Jezza because as far as I know the Greens don't have an active section of the party plotting to bring down Zack.
The sense of entitlement from Labour is extreme.
The exodus to the Greens is not being driven by anti-semitism, it is being driven by the Reform-adjacent policies of the Labour Party.
As a committed pro-semite (I'm technically Jewish and I was brought up on accounts of the horrors of 30s Germany and the necessity of Israel), I've really had enough of Netanyahu and current Israeli policy, and that doesn't make me an anti-semite. Obviously burning Jewish ambulances is both wrong and stupid, but I don't think that being critical of Israeli policy qualifies at all.
Netanyahu has done more for anti-semitism than anyone could have expected.
"the necessity of Israel" - maybe it's because I'm not Jewish, but I've never understood how a genocide on one continent, however appalling, legitimises subsequent ethnic cleansing of a group of people completely innocent of that crime in another. Nor how moving to a country surrounded by enemies who are committed to destroying you makes you much safer.
It reminds me a little of the logic of a white South African family friend who told me in Cape Town a few years ago that he had fled from Britain in 1970 (then 1% black) to South Africa (80% black) to avoid the Rivers of Blood and the black man's whip hand that Enoch Powell had forecast. He could clearly only find the safety he craved with systematic oppression of the indigenous majority, and, anyway, it probably wouldn't work in the long run.
Israel is majority Jewish though and the only Jewish majority nation on earth, so a homeland Jews will always defend as their only sure sanctuary.
South Africa has never been majority white but there are plenty of majority white nations on earth still and in most of Eastern Europe it is still almost 100% white
But Israel is clearly not a sure sanctuary, is it? It is surrounded by countries that hate it, and have nearly wiped it off the map three times in its short life. The only reason it survived was American goodwill, which it is now losing.
And, day to day, rockets are fired into the country from its neighbours and paranoid security is a part of everyday life, that makes the whole country feel like a mixture of an armed camp, with three years' military service for men and two for women, and an airport since 9/11. Terrorists pointlessly murdered 1,200 just a couple of years ago. So in fact Jews are actually far safer in the European democracies they left after the Second World War.
So even on its own terms, providing sanctuary for Jews, Israel has been a complete failure.
And a morally appalling one given the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian Arabs and the terrorism against the legitimate authorities which were its founding achievements.
Natanyahu is out-performing Adolf Hitler in branding and putting a target on the back of every Jewish person on the Planet.
He is turning Israel, and by it's definition Jewish people in to targets.
Had anyone said this a few years ago they would have been certified, now the majority see it, feel it , sense it.
When anyone (quite rightly) attacks ANTI SEMITISM - they need to attack the source. The source is NETANYAHU and his cabal in Tel Aviv.
Eradicate him and his cabal, bring decency and honesty back in to Israeli politics DE-ESCALATE and sure as night follows day, anti semitism aroumd the Globe will reduce and de-escalate too!
It needs a moderate Jew to take Netanyahu out, we can only hope someone steps up to the plate, in the l leftl same way a moderate Russian would with Putin.
I agree that Bibi over the last 30 years has a body count heading into the lower numbers of Hitler territory.
Nobody despises Netanyahu more than I do, but more than 7 million people, including around 1.8 million non-Jewish people, died in the Holocaust, not counting other acts of genocide against Poles, Russians and the dead of the occupied countries of Western Europe.
Netanyahu is a Tristram, but he is not that much of a Tristram. Comparing him to Hitler just gives Netanyahu an undeserved moral high ground.
Horthy or Mussolini would be a better parallel, especially Horthy.
I don't believe one should consider gradations of unmitigated evil. Stalin, Hitler, Bibi and Trump fit the frame, and Trump's body count is barely out of the traps.
Hitler was quite open about who he killed and his regime was rather good at recording the details. Bibi, not so much.
Many of Bibi's casualties are buried under rubble never to be found in Gaza, Lebanon and elsewhere, and others have been removed by covert activity across the World. I would be surprised if Bibi's body count doesn't reach 7 figures. I would suggest the 80,000 Gazan casualties is an enormous under estimation. And who would believe Hamas metrics?
You may suggest that but it is extremely unlikely you are correct. 80,000 dead is almost certainly the upper limit if only because Hamas would count every 'possible' in their figure to make Israel look worse. Even if we reduce it by a third, as people who may have been displaced and not reunited with their families and for a certain amount of double counting (again, likely an upper limit for that number) the figures are bad enough, but it's comparable to the number who died in the Blitz and far lower than the numbers who died in Dresden, Cologne, Pforzheim and Hamburg.
Just to make some other obvious points Netanyahu has not stolen the possessions of dead Palestinians and sold them to line his own pocket, he hasn't cut their hair off to make blankets, and he hasn't had the fat used from cremating them used to make soap (the soap issued to Poles had 42% human fat content). These were all things done on the orders of Hitler.
Netanyahu is bad but not that bad (heck, even Putin isn't that bad although I wouldn't go bail for Xi). Don't give him alibis.
The soap thing is a myth, fwiw.
Unfortunately not. I thought it was too until I made a research trip to Poland on the subject and investigated the documentation.
You probably want to let Yad Vashem know then... they're consistent on it.
Really? I visited them the year after visiting Poland and they seemed to think it was likely factual as well. Do you have a source?
Goodwin doubling down on his race baiting dishonesty.
In more than 2,000 schools in England today a majority of children no longer speak English as their main language. My critics might not think that tells us something important about what is happening to our country. But I do. And I will not change my view https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/2037792677266162089
He has become the country's leading stand up philosophers.
The study states that they included "maintained, mainstream schools"
Included, or only included?
From page 25
"We used the School Level Database (SLD) from the ASC January 2013 to examine the variation in the proportion of EAL students at the school level. We selected all maintained, mainstream schools in England. Additionally we eliminated 32 very small maintained schools (10 or fewer students on roll). The resulting population contained 20,033 schools."
Ok, thanks. So they don't know the difference between maintained schools and academies. That's a rocky start in terms of their credibility.
From a quick googling around, there were a couple of thousand academies in 2013.
Edit : the report is from 2015 and doesn't seem to have an axe to grind over immigration. More about identifying areas where support is required.
Further Edit: they say - "Almost a quarter of all schools (22.1%) have less than 1% EAL, and over half (54%) have less than 5% of student with EAL. However at the other extreme 1,681 schools (8.4%) have a majority of students with EAL. This does not support headlines such as that in the Daily Telegraph (31/01/14) that "English is no longer the first language for the majority of pupils at one in nine schools"
Right, so it's not the survey, it's Goodwin misusing it by presenting out of date material. I withdraw my slur on their credibility.
I think it entirely possible that if a study found 1681 schools were found to have a majority on non-english speakers in 2013, that in 2026 the number is higher.
Given that we have had lots of immigration in the last 13 year, probably inevitable. If you import lots of furriners, then you'll get lots of people talkiin' the furrin.
So we just need to make sure we put enough resources into getting them up to speed in English. Which, according to the report has a direct, definite and completely unsurprising effect on educational attainment.
Edit: Goodwin is still Badfail, of course.
It's possible but far from certain. Given the way schools have been continuously reorganised over the years it is, for example, possible that there are more EAL pupils but they have been concentrated in rather fewer schools as they are removed from academies and concentrated in the remaining LEA schools.
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
Yes. My limited anecdotal experience is that a lot of children who have English as an Additional Language (i.e. where a different language is spoken at home) act as very capable translators for older family members who struggle with English.
I think there's more that could be done to help people whose English is bad or nonexistent to learn the language, but I don't think the problem is with children in school.
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
You really are ignorant and quite nasty
How to influence people and persuade them is not your greatest gift
.. The only way Israel can govern the Gaza Strip without becoming an external oppressor of “another people” is to remove “the other people” from the confines of the Gaza Strip itself. https://x.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/2037794771058495738
Bit of a ‘once all the Jews are gone we can stop being antisemitic’ vibe.
.. The only way Israel can govern the Gaza Strip without becoming an external oppressor of “another people” is to remove “the other people” from the confines of the Gaza Strip itself. https://x.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/2037794771058495738
Bit of a ‘once all the Jews are gone we can stop being antisemitic’ vibe.
It would be a fair thing to do as long as it is matched by the removal of Israeli settlements and military from the West Bank.
“Trump is waging war based on instinct and it isn't working”
The first few paragraphs talk about plans, planning etc.
The BBC are sanewashing again. Trump didn't have a plan. It was just 'bomb because we can' and assume the Iranians would surrender and install Trump as the new Supreme leader. It really didn't go further than that.
The US continue NOT to have a plan. Are they going to launch a ground invasion? If so, where? What's the aim, what's the objective?
Well without a ground invasion it is unlikely to be able to remove the Iranian regime
How do you envisage a ground invasion removing the Iranian regime?
Well US and Israeli troops enter Tehran and literally remove the regime and Revolutionary Guard
What level of forces are required for that, and how many are in theatre?
10,000 US troops and marines are now in the region with more on the way. Israel would also send troops
2.7 million US military served in Vietnam between 1955 - 1975 and 58,279 died
They kept South Vietnam free of the Communists. The mistake was withdrawing them
You are a fool and/or deeply ignorant of the history.
I am not, the Democrat Congress pulled funding for the war forcing Ford to withdraw troops, had the US troops stayed Saigon would never have fallen to the Vietcong
Nixon started withdrawing troops in 69; signed a ceasefire in73, and withdrew all US troops that year. Basically in response to the impossibility of winning, the massive unpopularity and unaffordability of the war, and the collapse of morale in the US army.
You have no knowledge of the history.
On the other hand, the North Vietnamese ground offensive that ended the war was predicated on the withdrawal of military support.
Many South Vietnamese units fought until they ran out of ammunition.
The war killed maybe a tenth of the entire Vietnamese population; it came close to bankrupting the US, and ended at least one presidency.
U.S. efforts only increased the number of VC in the South. They recruited as many as they killed.
And an attempt to conquer and hold Tehran, to change the regime, would be 20 times worse. It's much bigger, it's all mountains, it has a large sophisticated army, they don't live in huts
Even Trump isn't that mad. One hopes
Apparently what's more likely is him trying to 'do a number' on Kharg Island.
Of all his countless defects it's his out-of-his-depthness that is probably the most concerning right now.
Actually, I think seizing Kharg Island makes sense IF you have decided to escalate. It's risky but it's an obvious pressure point, from what I've read. America can then strangle Iranian oil exports and also get a base for actions on the mainland. Unfortunately, to my amateur mind, it only makes sense if Trump is prepared to go all in: to combine this with extreme bombing of Iran, pulverising them into surrender. And yes, nukes, maybe
It's slid into a 'wouldn't have started from here' situation with only bad options. I'm hoping that in a revolutionary reversal of the norm he surprises on the upside with a hard-headed calculation (uninfluenced by Netanyahu) of what's in the US national interest - which means an agreement to withdraw in exchange for a reopening of the Strait and something suitably doveish sounding on Iran's nuclear aspirations. Then back to observe and contain.
Observe, contain and prepare.
The Gulf Arabs should be told that they need to immediately build pipelines and other facilities to avoid Hormuz.
And if that means that they no longer fund sport then that's something the likes of Manchester City will have to put up with.
The Emirates have done exactly that. The Habshan–Fujairah pipeline cost $3 billion has been in use for the last 14 years. It runs from Abu Dhabi to Fujairah and can carry 1 1/2 million bbls a day. For reference the largest oil tankers can carry 3 million barrels.
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
Care to tell me how much of an electric car is made of oil? Medicines, fertilisers, lubricants, coolants, most of modern life is made of oil. The computer, phone or tablet you are making your purile comments on is made of oil.
And not producing from the North Sea doesn't reduce or oil usage by a single barrel. It doesn't reduce our carbon emissions by a single gram. Indeed it increases our carbon emissions, at least a small amount, because of the transportation of oil and gas from around the world.
I was reading that the oil used as a lubricant on wind turbines is oil based ! How do you replace that ?
Until we can replace the products that come from oil, and for that matter gas, at scale we need for life we have to use them.
Also once you have alternatives, depending on the application, it can take years to get alternatives approved.
Not exploiting our own is nuts. Also from a supply chain risk point of view. It’s an additional source from a less volatile region. Sadly we are ruled by morons.
I suspect Brixian, being tribally labour, is ‘my party right or wrong’ here.
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
You really are ignorant and quite nasty
How to influence people and persuade them is not your greatest gift
The only way Israel can govern the Gaza Strip without becoming an external oppressor of “another people” is to remove “the other people” from the confines of the Gaza Strip itself. https://x.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/2037794771058495738
Once all other solutions have been eliminated, then whatever is left ...
The good news is there are plenty of Muslim countries in the region people could go to. The bad news, is none of them want them.
The only way Israel can govern the Gaza Strip without becoming an external oppressor of “another people” is to remove “the other people” from the confines of the Gaza Strip itself. https://x.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/2037794771058495738
See also West Bank, see for future reference Lebanon south of the Litani River, Greek Islands, more of Southern Syria.
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
You really are ignorant and quite nasty
How to influence people and persuade them is not your greatest gift
To be fair, I will stand up for Brixian on this. I think he is wrong a lot of the time (sometimes I agree with him) and I think he responds badly to informed responses and challenges. But I have never actually thought him nasty. There are many others who are far more personal and offensive in their comments.
The whole point of this place is to debate, discuss and, hopefully learn and I am quite sure there are others who think my responses are just as 'forthright' as his.
I certainly wouldn't choose not to engage with him or want to see him stop posting.
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
Care to tell me how much of an electric car is made of oil? Medicines, fertilisers, lubricants, coolants, most of modern life is made of oil. The computer, phone or tablet you are making your purile comments on is made of oil.
And not producing from the North Sea doesn't reduce or oil usage by a single barrel. It doesn't reduce our carbon emissions by a single gram. Indeed it increases our carbon emissions, at least a small amount, because of the transportation of oil and gas from around the world.
I was reading that the oil used as a lubricant on wind turbines is oil based ! How do you replace that ?
Until we can replace the products that come from oil, and for that matter gas, at scale we need for life we have to use them.
Also once you have alternatives, depending on the application, it can take years to get alternatives approved.
Not exploiting our own is nuts. Also from a supply chain risk point of view. It’s an additional source from a less volatile region. Sadly we are ruled by morons.
I suspect Brixian, being tribally labour, is ‘my party right or wrong’ here.
I am Labour but when they are wrong I'll say it.
As I have done on here.
Unlike a few on the right who are very very tribal
The only way Israel can govern the Gaza Strip without becoming an external oppressor of “another people” is to remove “the other people” from the confines of the Gaza Strip itself. https://x.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/2037794771058495738
Once all other solutions have been eliminated, then whatever is left ...
The good news is there are plenty of Muslim countries in the region people could go to. The bad news, is none of them want them.
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
You really are ignorant and quite nasty
How to influence people and persuade them is not your greatest gift
You are unable to admit when you are wrong
I have done that many times over the years and apologised, and long before you started your chaotic nonsense
The only way Israel can govern the Gaza Strip without becoming an external oppressor of “another people” is to remove “the other people” from the confines of the Gaza Strip itself. https://x.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/2037794771058495738
Once all other solutions have been eliminated, then whatever is left ...
The good news is there are plenty of Muslim countries in the region people could go to. The bad news, is none of them want them.
So you’re saying this is the final solution to the Palestine question ?
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
You really are ignorant and quite nasty
How to influence people and persuade them is not your greatest gift
To be fair, I will stand up for Brixian on this. I think he is wrong a lot of the time (sometimes I agree with him) and I think he responds badly to informed responses and challenges. But I have never actually thought him nasty. There are many others who are far more personal and offensive in their comments.
The whole point of this place is to debate, discuss and, hopefully learn and I am quite sure there are others who think my responses are just as 'forthright' as his.
I certainly wouldn't choose not to engage with him or want to see him stop posting.
Thank You Richard
I can be overly sarcastic and politically caustic
I rarely intend to be nasty. I tend to respond nastily when I feel someone is being nasty to me.
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
You really are ignorant and quite nasty
How to influence people and persuade them is not your greatest gift
To be fair, I will stand up for Brixian on this. I think he is wrong a lot of the time (sometimes I agree with him) and I think he responds badly to informed responses and challenges. But I have never actually thought him nasty. There are many others who are far more personal and offensive in their comments.
The whole point of this place is to debate, discuss and, hopefully learn and I am quite sure there are others who think my responses are just as 'forthright' as his.
I certainly wouldn't choose not to engage with him or want to see him stop posting.
The only way Israel can govern the Gaza Strip without becoming an external oppressor of “another people” is to remove “the other people” from the confines of the Gaza Strip itself. https://x.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/2037794771058495738
Once all other solutions have been eliminated, then whatever is left ...
The good news is there are plenty of Muslim countries in the region people could go to. The bad news, is none of them want them.
I mean, that's not the only bad news. The history to date is that Palestinians have not reconciled themselves to being pushed out of their land. So the conflict endures. So Israel has to keep pushing beyond its borders to push the enemy further away. But there is always a border, and always an enemy across it, and so the Empire has to continue to expand, lest it collapses.
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
You really are ignorant and quite nasty
How to influence people and persuade them is not your greatest gift
You are unable to admit when you are wrong
I have done that many times over the years and apologised, and long before you started your chaotic nonsense
It really is like dropping feathers over to catch a mackerel with you.
I'll self declare I've caught my quota, 20 a day is the permitted legal limit.
So I'll leave you to talk to yourself and Kemi in future.
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
You really are ignorant and quite nasty
How to influence people and persuade them is not your greatest gift
To be fair, I will stand up for Brixian on this. I think he is wrong a lot of the time (sometimes I agree with him) and I think he responds badly to informed responses and challenges. But I have never actually thought him nasty. There are many others who are far more personal and offensive in their comments.
The whole point of this place is to debate, discuss and, hopefully learn and I am quite sure there are others who think my responses are just as 'forthright' as his.
I certainly wouldn't choose not to engage with him or want to see him stop posting.
Thank You Richard
I can be overly sarcastic and politically caustic
I rarely intend to be nasty. I tend to respond nastily when I feel someone is being nasty to me.
If I am then that is very rarely my intention.
Maybe you can learn from @Richard_Tyndall on how to make an argument and win friends
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
Care to tell me how much of an electric car is made of oil? Medicines, fertilisers, lubricants, coolants, most of modern life is made of oil. The computer, phone or tablet you are making your purile comments on is made of oil.
And not producing from the North Sea doesn't reduce or oil usage by a single barrel. It doesn't reduce our carbon emissions by a single gram. Indeed it increases our carbon emissions, at least a small amount, because of the transportation of oil and gas from around the world.
I was reading that the oil used as a lubricant on wind turbines is oil based ! How do you replace that ?
Until we can replace the products that come from oil, and for that matter gas, at scale we need for life we have to use them.
Also once you have alternatives, depending on the application, it can take years to get alternatives approved.
Not exploiting our own is nuts. Also from a supply chain risk point of view. It’s an additional source from a less volatile region. Sadly we are ruled by morons.
I suspect Brixian, being tribally labour, is ‘my party right or wrong’ here.
I am Labour but when they are wrong I'll say it.
As I have done on here.
Unlike a few on the right who are very very tribal
Labour on this are completely wrong for reasons Richard Tyndall, I and others have said.
Oil and gas aren’t just fossil fuels.
We have no scalable alternatives for many of the products that come from them at the moment.
But it’s futile debating it. Labour won’t change their mind on this. So we will just have to live with the consequences.
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
You really are ignorant and quite nasty
How to influence people and persuade them is not your greatest gift
To be fair, I will stand up for Brixian on this. I think he is wrong a lot of the time (sometimes I agree with him) and I think he responds badly to informed responses and challenges. But I have never actually thought him nasty. There are many others who are far more personal and offensive in their comments.
The whole point of this place is to debate, discuss and, hopefully learn and I am quite sure there are others who think my responses are just as 'forthright' as his.
I certainly wouldn't choose not to engage with him or want to see him stop posting.
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
You really are ignorant and quite nasty
How to influence people and persuade them is not your greatest gift
To be fair, I will stand up for Brixian on this. I think he is wrong a lot of the time (sometimes I agree with him) and I think he responds badly to informed responses and challenges. But I have never actually thought him nasty. There are many others who are far more personal and offensive in their comments.
The whole point of this place is to debate, discuss and, hopefully learn and I am quite sure there are others who think my responses are just as 'forthright' as his.
I certainly wouldn't choose not to engage with him or want to see him stop posting.
Thank You Richard
I can be overly sarcastic and politically caustic
I rarely intend to be nasty. I tend to respond nastily when I feel someone is being nasty to me.
If I am then that is very rarely my intention.
Maybe you can learn from @Richard_Tyndall on how to make an argument and win friends
Every party is the NIMBY party. They talk a game at national level. But then…
Which is why I predict that the attempts at increasing house building from Starmer will be u-turned after May.
One of the squares the Green will need to make into a circle is their strong NIMBYism locally, with the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.
'...the massive support for house building and infrastructure among the young.' 50% of voters aged 18-24 and 62% of voters aged 25-49 oppose building new housing on 'green belt land' not massively lower than the 76% of over 65s who oppose building new homes on the greenbelt. 64% of 2024 Green voters and 59% of 2024 Labour voters oppose building new homes on the greenbelt.
Labour's core vote is about as YIMBY as you can get- if they can't get housebuilding happening, we really are stuffed.
(Meanwhile, of course Reform are NIMBY. Older homeowners, many of them via RTB, whose main asset is their house which was way cheaper when they bought it.)
Yimby and environmentally conscious
Which is why the Tory energy policy to be launched tomorrow is fundamentally dangerius, pointless, built on false logic and from a Party who utterly spaffed up and wasted the golden bonus from the peak North Sea days and then exacerbated their utter ineptitude by doing nothing in 14 years in power worthwhile to secure our energy future.
@Richard_Tyndall who is in the industry comprehensively debunked your comments on this
Kemi is leading on this with the support of the unions,SNP, upto 40 labour mps and others
Your anti Kemi views are well known but repeating fake news is sadly, your modus operandi
Others who are experts within the industry and with billions invested within the industry do not agree with Richard Tindall.
Thats a fact
As for Kemi, her shadow energy secretary had a polar opposite view in Government to Kemi now
Kemi is Kemi
A foghorn, she's well suited to the North Sea is is simply irrelevant.
I understand she's staying at Trumps Golf Course near Aberdeen
I hope she remembers to declare that.
I've looked up Richard Tyndall
With respect
He's made his living working on Oil Rigs
Drill baby Drill
Respect the knowledge but he's hardly likely to advocate as stopping drilling
It a bit like the guy who pulls the guillotine being pro capital punishment.
For the last few years I have made my living shutting down oil fields. I actually make a much better living shutting them down than I did drilling them. We are in the process of abandoning a field that still has 1 billion barrels of recoverable oil in it. One field. How stupid do you have to be to think that is a good idea?
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
You protesteth too nuch
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
You really are ignorant and quite nasty
How to influence people and persuade them is not your greatest gift
To be fair, I will stand up for Brixian on this. I think he is wrong a lot of the time (sometimes I agree with him) and I think he responds badly to informed responses and challenges. But I have never actually thought him nasty. There are many others who are far more personal and offensive in their comments.
The whole point of this place is to debate, discuss and, hopefully learn and I am quite sure there are others who think my responses are just as 'forthright' as his.
I certainly wouldn't choose not to engage with him or want to see him stop posting.
Thank You Richard
I can be overly sarcastic and politically caustic
I rarely intend to be nasty. I tend to respond nastily when I feel someone is being nasty to me.
If I am then that is very rarely my intention.
Maybe you can learn from @Richard_Tyndall on how to make an argument and win friends
Wait.
There are people on here who have friends?
"Fish are friends, not food," he said to the mackerel in the tin.
Comments
But just because he is an arsehole, doesn't mean that there are not facts here.
From some googling around, it seems there is a claim that the number is 2039 - allegedly based on a FOI from the DfE. Which I can't find online.
And for the last 20 odd years on PB I have advocated stopping burning fossil fuels because they are too imprtant for too many other aspects of our modern life.
If you are going to go for the ad hominem attacks, again it helps if you actually get your basic facts right. You should try it some time, it might be a new experience for you.
(As in one step beyond Huff's Semi-Attached Figure. I have been reading How to Lie with Statistics again recently. Does it show?)
Also, it should be noted that 'EAL' can hide a multitude of sins. I once taught an Iranian-born girl who spoke English as her fourth language (after Farsi, Arabic and French). Her spoken English was totally unaccented and her vocabulary was nearly as good as mine (she was 14 at the time). If we have more EAL speakers but they are able to speak the language as well as she could, that's rather different from somebody whose English is as bad as Donald Trump's.
Self defence, especially when you are at war, is generally best taken operationally before the other side hits you, not after.
The old git in North Wales with the Kemi fettish however deceitfully claims she is leading the drill drill drill debate.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
The facts are
It is claimed deceitfully that the Unions agree with her.
It is claimed deceitfully that 40 Labour MPs agree with her.
The fact is that Unions with Members in the sector have campaigned since well before Kemi was an MP against job losses and during time she was in Cabinet
The fact is that a number of Labour MPs with seats with sector jobs have also campaigned against cuts and closure
To say they are backing her or following her is a downright lie.They would be outraged to be told this.
She is the political opportunist whose party had totally opposing views. They blatant ignore numerous statements on this.
She is the politicial opportunist who is jumping on any bandwagon she can find
She is the political opportunist who will follow Donald Trump to the ends of the earth, he says jump she days how high, he says bomb Iran she agrees.
Some people have conviction and beliefs
She has no conviction, no beliefs other than to jump on the latest bandwagon.
Fuel Brittania
Drill oil at a net loss Pump oil at a Net loss, buy oil on the global market, screw tax out of the motorist and abolish the windfall tax that is BUILDING renewable functionality to give to Global billionaires who will do anything and everything to avoid paying UK tax
Those are the facts
Kemi spouts fiction
The Tories are in utter disarray on this subject.
Fuel Brittania on a Petrol Tanker when petrol prices are going through the roof
Same old Tories
Same old Bullcrap
That miserable man Goodwin really does miss out on the fun things in life
Edit - another slightly ridiculous example of statistics from that school was 'Forces Families,' whom we had to pay particular attention to to ensure they were not falling behind due to economic/emotional difficulties. I only had one in my lessons whom I was ordered to monitor. Her father was OC a local major installation...
"Speaking English" for officialdom is not actually related to your ability to speak English?
Oil is a commodity that has had its time.
There could be 10 billion barrels it's still unprofoitable to drill and pump and to be sold at extortionate prices to the detriment of a climate that has been destroyed by fossil fuel extraction and burning.
Brixian not liking Badenoch certainly isn't that argument.
EDIT: I think there’s even a case that it makes more sense to track main language at home, as EAL does, than to try to assess whether the children can speak English, simply because children in schools tend to pick up English (or whatever language they’re in) very quickly. The Ukrainian refugee who speaks little English on day one might be pretty fluent by the end of the academic year!
Comments on the David Frum video: "The Far-Right Algorithm: Anti-Churchill, Anti-West "
@goyonman9655
15 hours ago
Farage is not a right-winger
Stop this nonsense
He says himself that his biggest achievment is stopping the Right.
And churchill is a traitor who threw away the british empire over a atupid war
This is In response to my restrained comment on Frum's exaggerated overegging of putting squirrels on £5 notes being some kind of defenestration of our history:
Frum's stuff about Churchill being taken off the £5 note as an attack on "suppressing history" is a vast, almost self-satirical, overreach.
Churchill has only been on the £5 note since 2016, and the Bank of England consulted and we the people wanted natural history of the UK instead.
It is only the crusty garden-shed Right-wingers like Farage & writers for the Spectator, and the extreme Right, who are getting excited about it.
https://youtu.be/3sa_a98wvsI?t=1051
Ah well !!
Though others may have inferred that from his comment, it was not actually claimed.
That's the way these shit stirrers act, claim something defensible, then let others infer there is more to it, when there is not.
And if its unprofitable then why is it both heavily taxed and prohibited? Just permit it and see it not being extracted due to lack of viability.
Until you prohibit imports, the amount of fossil fuels burned in this country has nothing to do with the amount extracted.
Technically I would be EAL and although I was born in England my parents were not. I can however speak English fairly well,* and most people who meet me think I am English. I'd consider myself fully integrated into English society. So why should I be used to further his bizarre claims? Especially when he says nothing will change his mind on the subject.
*In case anyone thinks otherwise, there was a touch of sarcasm in this comment.
1) Quote a number, and then editorialise over it.
2) Get push back over the issue
3) Fact checkers say the number is actually correct.
4) Claim that 3) justifies the editorialising on 1)
The basic concept is traditional in politics. But the populist extremes love this.
The way to short circuit it is to provide clear, unambiguous data, frequently. The problem with that is that the UK government traditionally believes that information is dangerous. Especially to their policies.
The USA sent Ukrainians offering help and advice packing (shades of the pre-Second Happy Time in 1942), and said they had nothing to learn, and now they may have lessons 2 through 43 coming to Kharg Island.
A real problem is 'native' students for whom English is their first language. Far too few of them learn a second language to any standard these days. And, sadly, many get through schooling without being able to write or articulate very well in their first language, English.
Every lifelong Catholic I've ever met is like "I think we're supposed to give this food to poor people" and every adult convert is like "the Archon of Constantinople's epistle on the Pentacostine rites of the eucharist clearly states women shouldn't have driver's licenses."
If you have skin in the game, you have more motivation which seems to have passed the US by, Israel not.
The best answer is for everyone to say, "yes, but does that number mean anything?" Which is mostly about having capable people asking the questions.
A kid may start primary school at 5 with no English.
Everything being equal they'll be fluent within the year. Whilst it still not being their main language.
Instead we are left with people doing selective FOI to further agendas.
I could write an header on Thames river levels, what they mean and why the PLA is being an arse about it. And hiding data. But that would probably trip a demand for more headers on trans.
The Gulf Arabs should be told that they need to immediately build pipelines and other facilities to avoid Hormuz.
And if that means that they no longer fund sport then that's something the likes of Manchester City will have to put up with.
That is not the same thing at all.
My wife before recently retiring taught in a school which almost certainly falls under Goodwin's definition.
Certainly language was an issue - pupils came from families with (I think) over thirty different first languages. But even the few who couldn't speak English when they started learned; that's what school does.
Far bigger problems were grossly inadequate provision for children with extreme SEN (who a couple of decades back would have been in separate schools), parental neglect/abuse, and poor school management management.
As is putting x tons of sand over the existing ones and burying the new ones deep.
But that's something that will take years.
https://x.com/andytwelves/status/2036497504540176510
Suicide of an author’s credibility
Matt Goodwin has done the causes that he represents no favours with his new book
https://thecritic.co.uk/suicide-of-an-authors-credibility/
Matt Goodwin has reached the point where even GB News panellists are trashing his book and in hysterics at his defence of his AI slop false citations where he used AI to prove he hadn’t used AI
https://x.com/stuzi_pants/status/2038191593610526880
And not producing from the North Sea doesn't reduce or oil usage by a single barrel. It doesn't reduce our carbon emissions by a single gram. Indeed it increases our carbon emissions, at least a small amount, because of the transportation of oil and gas from around the world.
So Lucky, she's not mad at all.
https://x.com/lewis_goodall/status/2037531449163669641
https://x.com/EW/status/2037958330824401198
The only way Israel can govern the Gaza Strip without becoming an external oppressor of “another people” is to remove “the other people” from the confines of the Gaza Strip itself.
https://x.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/2037794771058495738
I think there's more that could be done to help people whose English is bad or nonexistent to learn the language, but I don't think the problem is with children in school.
How to influence people and persuade them is not your greatest gift
The only way Israel can govern the Gaza Strip without becoming an external oppressor of “another people” is to remove “the other people” from the confines of the Gaza Strip itself.
https://x.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/2037794771058495738
Bit of a ‘once all the Jews are gone we can stop being antisemitic’ vibe.
Aim
To
Please
Until we can replace the products that come from oil, and for that matter gas, at scale we need for life we have to use them.
Also once you have alternatives, depending on the application, it can take years to get alternatives approved.
Not exploiting our own is nuts. Also from a supply chain risk point of view. It’s an additional source from a less volatile region. Sadly we are ruled by morons.
I suspect Brixian, being tribally labour, is ‘my party right or wrong’ here.
The good news is there are plenty of Muslim countries in the region people could go to. The bad news, is none of them want them.
And the west will simply stand by and allow it.
The whole point of this place is to debate, discuss and, hopefully learn and I am quite sure there are others who think my responses are just as 'forthright' as his.
I certainly wouldn't choose not to engage with him or want to see him stop posting.
As I have done on here.
Unlike a few on the right who are very very tribal
I can be overly sarcastic and politically caustic
I rarely intend to be nasty. I tend to respond nastily when I feel someone is being nasty to me.
If I am then that is very rarely my intention.
It is not a route to a stable peace.
I'll self declare I've caught my quota, 20 a day is the permitted legal limit.
So I'll leave you to talk to yourself and Kemi in future.
Remember where you heard it first.
Solves a difficult decision at Birmingham where he has tried to meet unfair expectation.
Oil and gas aren’t just fossil fuels.
We have no scalable alternatives for many of the products that come from them at the moment.
But it’s futile debating it. Labour won’t change their mind on this. So we will just have to live with the consequences.
Have they paid for the Stand yet or will it be repossessed
There are people on here who have friends?
I’d keep him personally.