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  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 10,144

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "@PolliticoUK
    🚨 Westminster Voting Intention:

    ➡️ REF: 29% (+1)
    🌳 CON: 19% (-1)
    🌹 LAB: 18% (-4)
    🔶 LDEM: 14% (=)
    🟢 GRN: 14% (+3)

    From @Moreincommon_

    From 27th February - 2nd March
    Changes with 23rd February

    Highest Green Party share with pollster."

    https://x.com/PolliticoUK/status/2029108413423128586

    Reform majority of 98 on those numbers.
    Not a cat in hell's chance of Reform winning that many seats. Not when it is Reform v The Rest of the World on giving them a good kicking.
    Would you vote Green to stop Reform from winning in your area (South Devon, right? Feels like the sort of place the Greens could be the challenger to Reform).
    South Devon could well be a four-way fight: Reform, Tories, Green and the underwhelming sitting LibDem MP.
    For those who want to vote against Reform (38% of the population from above poll) and don't want Labour (34%) the 72 Lib Dem seats offer an easy choice.
    Except its the Tories they face in most of them, not Labour or Reform
    True and only 7% want vote against the Tories (well done Kemi), but then again only 3% want to vote against Lib Dems.
    So the closer versions of those seats will come down to LDs holding on to the GTTO coalition or not
    I guess that the Tories will be less unpopular than they were at the last GE, but then Reform may be more of a challenger in those seats than the tories. So 'Get The Tories Out' may be replaced by 'Keep Reform Out' and surely the best placed party is likely to the the incumbent.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,625
    Leon said:

    I for one cannot believe that this honourable patriotic Labour government has been infiltrated and compromised by agents working for the Chinese. Nothing - literally nothing - in the UK government’s behaviour - from allowing the Chinese to build a massive spy base in Buckingham Palace to giving half of Sussex to China as long as they take £700000bn of our money as well. - has ever given any indication of this treachery

    Pretty sure Chinese money was rampant already, but it'd be nice for it not to get worse.
  • That was a terrible performance from Badenoch.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,420

    Starmer's epitaph as PM: Present but not involved

    https://x.com/CDP1882/status/2029196167699943892

    Western officials have told GB News that the US has NOT launched any attacks on Iran from British bases since Starmer granted permission... but this is anticipated to change soon.

    American bombers are expected to start arriving at RAF Fairford for strikes.

    I for one am more comfortable with Starmer pissing on Trump's illegal war chips when the expectation would have been immediate capitulation.

    I can buy the defence rather than offence argument going forward.

    For a very inept Prime Minister he hasn't undertaken the absolute catastrophe the Tory shadow front bench has presided over since Saturday. Kemi needs a quick Trump win, which could be Trump declared the win and pulls out quickly ( which of course isn't his way, figuratively speaking).
    He has stumbled a bit along the way but I think the steps so far have been broadly the right ones.

    The big mistake was not anticipating the attack on Cyprus and putting further assets in place there.

    He should have followed the old adage of walk quietly and carry a big stick.

    Politically, getting slagged off by Trump is a good look in the eyes of most Britons.
    Was he badly advised, or did he ignore advice? Some combination of military planners and foreign office should have seen it coming, surely?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,005

    Leon said:

    I for one cannot believe that this honourable patriotic Labour government has been infiltrated and compromised by agents working for the Chinese. Nothing - literally nothing - in the UK government’s behaviour - from allowing the Chinese to build a massive spy base in Buckingham Palace to giving half of Sussex to China as long as they take £700000bn of our money as well. - has ever given any indication of this treachery

    But Starmer in return did get us 30 days visa free travel to China......like errh 50+ other countries already had.
    It's interesting that of all the recent visits to China by Western leaders, Merz is the one who seems to have been completely spooked by what he saw and has become notably more pro-Trump since then.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,625

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "@PolliticoUK
    🚨 Westminster Voting Intention:

    ➡️ REF: 29% (+1)
    🌳 CON: 19% (-1)
    🌹 LAB: 18% (-4)
    🔶 LDEM: 14% (=)
    🟢 GRN: 14% (+3)

    From @Moreincommon_

    From 27th February - 2nd March
    Changes with 23rd February

    Highest Green Party share with pollster."

    https://x.com/PolliticoUK/status/2029108413423128586

    Reform majority of 98 on those numbers.
    Not a cat in hell's chance of Reform winning that many seats. Not when it is Reform v The Rest of the World on giving them a good kicking.
    Would you vote Green to stop Reform from winning in your area (South Devon, right? Feels like the sort of place the Greens could be the challenger to Reform).
    South Devon could well be a four-way fight: Reform, Tories, Green and the underwhelming sitting LibDem MP.
    For those who want to vote against Reform (38% of the population from above poll) and don't want Labour (34%) the 72 Lib Dem seats offer an easy choice.
    Except its the Tories they face in most of them, not Labour or Reform
    True and only 7% want vote against the Tories (well done Kemi), but then again only 3% want to vote against Lib Dems.
    So the closer versions of those seats will come down to LDs holding on to the GTTO coalition or not
    I guess that the Tories will be less unpopular than they were at the last GE, but then Reform may be more of a challenger in those seats than the tories. So 'Get The Tories Out' may be replaced by 'Keep Reform Out' and surely the best placed party is likely to the the incumbent.
    Quite. Voters can have a sense of where things are, more than a leaflet insisting X cannot win here.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,871
    The ahistorical morons are in charge now, correct dates are woke.

    https://x.com/jefftimmer/status/2029012730321969224?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,625
    Our corruption is so low grade, it's not exactly Menendez hiding bars of Gold or Trump's [insert a dozen examples here].
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,257
    edited 2:59PM

    Leon said:

    I for one cannot believe that this honourable patriotic Labour government has been infiltrated and compromised by agents working for the Chinese. Nothing - literally nothing - in the UK government’s behaviour - from allowing the Chinese to build a massive spy base in Buckingham Palace to giving half of Sussex to China as long as they take £700000bn of our money as well. - has ever given any indication of this treachery

    But Starmer in return did get us 30 days visa free travel to China......like errh 50+ other countries already had.
    It's interesting that of all the recent visits to China by Western leaders, Merz is the one who seems to have been completely spooked by what he saw and has become notably more pro-Trump since then.
    I was both hugely impressed but also hugely spooked....I think most people in the West think China is still a bit backwards making cheap plastic shit on one hand and have a habit of locking up minorities in their own country while staying out of global conflicts on the other hand, but nothing to worry too much about in our comfortable Western daily lives.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,207
    Roger said:

    Starmer's epitaph as PM: Present but not involved

    https://x.com/CDP1882/status/2029196167699943892

    Western officials have told GB News that the US has NOT launched any attacks on Iran from British bases since Starmer granted permission... but this is anticipated to change soon.

    American bombers are expected to start arriving at RAF Fairford for strikes.

    As you're their only viewer I'm surprised they bothered.

    malcolmg said:

    DoctorG said:

    Some mildly good news for Anas.
    Otoh it’s going to be a terrrrible night for the SCons.

    https://x.com/electionmapsuk/status/2029178918058475556?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Reform a small swing from finishing fifth or sixth in seats
    And they were 'second in 54 seats' in that MRP.
    Lol
    Farage really has to get his finger out and name his candidates, for both Holyrood and Senedd. election day is 9 weeks tomorrow! We can all see they are hand picked, the tactic of holding off naming or sake of old social media posts will backfire badly.

    I was pretty sceptical about the MRP which has SNP as high as 67 seats, we will see some variation across Scotland and party support will be quite concentrated.

    People are finally starting to click that a list SNP vote is wasted, so I expect the Greens to get 2 MSPs in most regions.

    The Tories should be pretty concerned with recent polling, maybe even more than Mr Sarwar
    The voting system in Scotland is absolute shit
    "It's shite being Scottish..."
    Do you have tourettes?
    Shouldn't you be out there launching rockets at Israel?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,625
    carnforth said:

    Starmer's epitaph as PM: Present but not involved

    https://x.com/CDP1882/status/2029196167699943892

    Western officials have told GB News that the US has NOT launched any attacks on Iran from British bases since Starmer granted permission... but this is anticipated to change soon.

    American bombers are expected to start arriving at RAF Fairford for strikes.

    I for one am more comfortable with Starmer pissing on Trump's illegal war chips when the expectation would have been immediate capitulation.

    I can buy the defence rather than offence argument going forward.

    For a very inept Prime Minister he hasn't undertaken the absolute catastrophe the Tory shadow front bench has presided over since Saturday. Kemi needs a quick Trump win, which could be Trump declared the win and pulls out quickly ( which of course isn't his way, figuratively speaking).
    He has stumbled a bit along the way but I think the steps so far have been broadly the right ones.

    The big mistake was not anticipating the attack on Cyprus and putting further assets in place there.

    He should have followed the old adage of walk quietly and carry a big stick.

    Politically, getting slagged off by Trump is a good look in the eyes of most Britons.
    Was he badly advised, or did he ignore advice? Some combination of military planners and foreign office should have seen it coming, surely?
    What, that Cyprus is nearby and thus a target no matter what Starmer said? You'd hope someone foresaw that.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,413
    FF43 said:

    DoctorG said:

    Some mildly good news for Anas.
    Otoh it’s going to be a terrrrible night for the SCons.

    https://x.com/electionmapsuk/status/2029178918058475556?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Reform a small swing from finishing fifth or sixth in seats
    And they were 'second in 54 seats' in that MRP.
    Lol
    Farage really has to get his finger out and name his candidates, for both Holyrood and Senedd. election day is 9 weeks tomorrow! We can all see they are hand picked, the tactic of holding off naming or sake of old social media posts will backfire badly.

    I was pretty sceptical about the MRP which has SNP as high as 67 seats, we will see some variation across Scotland and party support will be quite concentrated.

    People are finally starting to click that a list SNP vote is wasted, so I expect the Greens to get 2 MSPs in most regions.

    The Tories should be pretty concerned with recent polling, maybe even more than Mr Sarwar
    The Tories are circling the drain a bit. Win a couple of constituencies and hang on for dear life on the lists looks like the aim now.
    Reform might end up horrifically underperforming. No candidates and an absolute fool as leader.
    If they do decline it might aid the Tories. The approach they take to constituencies (standimg everywhere?) might also be key
    Reform are a paradox in Scotland. In principle English nationalism shouldn't register at all in Scotland, so their 20% or so poll ratings seem very high. Maybe they translate English to British nationalism north of the Solway/Tweed line but they have to share that segment with traditional owners the Conservatives,. A consistent 20% of the Scottish electorate identify as mainly British. Reform seem to have had some success in winning over previous SNP voters who are outright racists, which might account for a total Reform + Tory support that's higher than it normally should be.
    If Reform just rely on the list, do they avoid any scrutiny of their candidates?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,183
    Ive decided the bantz result in May would be Tories beating Reform on seats in London and Scotland and asking them who it is that isnt a national party?
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 8,830

    That was a terrible performance from Badenoch.

    Starmer was right, it was un-prime ministerial.

    I generally think Badenoch has got much better in her role, but there’s a time to throw the insults around and she’s still not a worked out when it’s best to avoid them. A gentler exposing of the governments position on various aspects of the ongoing events would have been far more effective than (paraphrasing) “you can’t keep the country safe because you’re fighting for your own job” and “Labour MPs are goons, LOL”
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,699
    But…but…Reform…..Russia

    Even yesterday that old soak Alistair Campbell was making Russia cracks at Reform posters.

    Yet..

    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2029180263947817409?s=61
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,828
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    https://x.com/insidergeo/status/2029147092774420972

    Kurdish leader Hassan Sharafi confirmed that the decision has been made to support the United States in operations against Iran. The Kurds, originally from Iran but now based in Iraq, say they plan to move into Iran to fight the regime and ultimately aim to overthrow it.

    But there is no plan wibble wibble
    Jeez you people have short memories.
    Don't you remember the 'Northern Alliance' in Afghanistan ?
    A closer analogy would be the Iraqi Kurds
    Well, there's that too.

    So we're planning for a couple of trillion in expenditure, a decade of unrest in the region, and ten million or so refugees ?

    The truth is that's it's completely unclear whether Trump wants regime change, or just a deal with the regime in a crippled Iraq, or something else.
    Any of these are a very marked improvement on the status quo ante.

    Regime change is clearly ideal.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 54,479
    edited 3:05PM

    The partner of Labour MP Joani Reid has been arrested on suspicion of spying for China along with two others following a Counter Terrorism Policing investigation

    Number of media outlet are running this.

    SNP by-election victory nailed on?

    That MP must have one of the thinnest Wikipedia articles for any elected politician. She really has done nothing notable or worthwhile except being put up by Labour for election to parliament.
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,436
    kle4 said:

    Our corruption is so low grade, it's not exactly Menendez hiding bars of Gold or Trump's [insert a dozen examples here].

    It always was. Cash for Questions was £2,000 a pop.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,257
    edited 3:03PM
    You have to hand it to Apple, they can glitter a turd beter than anybody else,

    Hello, MacBook Neo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3SIKAmPXY4
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,950

    malcolmg said:

    DoctorG said:

    Some mildly good news for Anas.
    Otoh it’s going to be a terrrrible night for the SCons.

    https://x.com/electionmapsuk/status/2029178918058475556?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Reform a small swing from finishing fifth or sixth in seats
    And they were 'second in 54 seats' in that MRP.
    Lol
    Farage really has to get his finger out and name his candidates, for both Holyrood and Senedd. election day is 9 weeks tomorrow! We can all see they are hand picked, the tactic of holding off naming or sake of old social media posts will backfire badly.

    I was pretty sceptical about the MRP which has SNP as high as 67 seats, we will see some variation across Scotland and party support will be quite concentrated.

    People are finally starting to click that a list SNP vote is wasted, so I expect the Greens to get 2 MSPs in most regions.

    The Tories should be pretty concerned with recent polling, maybe even more than Mr Sarwar
    The voting system in Scotland is absolute shit
    "It's shite being Scottish..."
    Your not right in the head
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,183
    kle4 said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "@PolliticoUK
    🚨 Westminster Voting Intention:

    ➡️ REF: 29% (+1)
    🌳 CON: 19% (-1)
    🌹 LAB: 18% (-4)
    🔶 LDEM: 14% (=)
    🟢 GRN: 14% (+3)

    From @Moreincommon_

    From 27th February - 2nd March
    Changes with 23rd February

    Highest Green Party share with pollster."

    https://x.com/PolliticoUK/status/2029108413423128586

    Reform majority of 98 on those numbers.
    Not a cat in hell's chance of Reform winning that many seats. Not when it is Reform v The Rest of the World on giving them a good kicking.
    Would you vote Green to stop Reform from winning in your area (South Devon, right? Feels like the sort of place the Greens could be the challenger to Reform).
    South Devon could well be a four-way fight: Reform, Tories, Green and the underwhelming sitting LibDem MP.
    For those who want to vote against Reform (38% of the population from above poll) and don't want Labour (34%) the 72 Lib Dem seats offer an easy choice.
    Except its the Tories they face in most of them, not Labour or Reform
    True and only 7% want vote against the Tories (well done Kemi), but then again only 3% want to vote against Lib Dems.
    So the closer versions of those seats will come down to LDs holding on to the GTTO coalition or not
    I guess that the Tories will be less unpopular than they were at the last GE, but then Reform may be more of a challenger in those seats than the tories. So 'Get The Tories Out' may be replaced by 'Keep Reform Out' and surely the best placed party is likely to the the incumbent.
    Quite. Voters can have a sense of where things are, more than a leaflet insisting X cannot win here.
    Reform were below their national average in 2024 in the bulk of the top 25 LD defences so they are highly unlikely to be challengers.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,099
    IanB2 said:

    The partner of Labour MP Joani Reid has been arrested on suspicion of spying for China along with two others following a Counter Terrorism Policing investigation

    Number of media outlet are running this.

    SNP by-election victory nailed on?
    Highly likely to be widely available data.

    Nothing to see here.

    Now taking government papers while a minister to tel Aviv is a different kettle of fish.

    People in glass houses and all that.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 27,828

    That was a terrible performance from Badenoch.

    Oh no, has she lost your vote? That's a shock.

    If Horse won't vote Tory, who will?
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,436

    You have to hand it to Apple, they can glitter a turd beter than anybody else,

    Hello, MacBook Neo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3SIKAmPXY4

    Modern MacOS on 8GB of ram will rapidly become painful for anything beyond casual sofa-surfing.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,420

    You have to hand it to Apple, they can glitter a turd beter than anybody else,

    Hello, MacBook Neo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3SIKAmPXY4

    It's cheap, but it's not shitty-Windows-laptop cheap. They must know it'll cannibalise Air sales a little, and hope that the new sales more than balance it out. Wonder what the gross margin is...
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,420
    carnforth said:

    You have to hand it to Apple, they can glitter a turd beter than anybody else,

    Hello, MacBook Neo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3SIKAmPXY4

    It's cheap, but it's not shitty-Windows-laptop cheap. They must know it'll cannibalise Air sales a little, and hope that the new sales more than balance it out. Wonder what the gross margin is...
    For comparison - said shitty Windows laptop, for £299:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-IdeaPad-Laptop-Ryzen-Windows/dp/B0FBSX4VF3/
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,950
    Sweeney74 said:

    malcolmg said:

    DoctorG said:

    Some mildly good news for Anas.
    Otoh it’s going to be a terrrrible night for the SCons.

    https://x.com/electionmapsuk/status/2029178918058475556?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Reform a small swing from finishing fifth or sixth in seats
    And they were 'second in 54 seats' in that MRP.
    Lol
    Farage really has to get his finger out and name his candidates, for both Holyrood and Senedd. election day is 9 weeks tomorrow! We can all see they are hand picked, the tactic of holding off naming or sake of old social media posts will backfire badly.

    I was pretty sceptical about the MRP which has SNP as high as 67 seats, we will see some variation across Scotland and party support will be quite concentrated.

    People are finally starting to click that a list SNP vote is wasted, so I expect the Greens to get 2 MSPs in most regions.

    The Tories should be pretty concerned with recent polling, maybe even more than Mr Sarwar
    The voting system in Scotland is absolute shit
    Wales is showing the way going fully d'Hondt.

    Scotland should follow.
    Devolution should be reversed as a failed experiment.
    Scotland is stuck in political purgatory. Nothing gets done whilst power is further centralised away from councils. Second rate politicians fill the seats at the Temu Parliament and third rate councillors are left doing f-all of worth either singing for or blaming the SNP. Meanwhile the SNP act as an opposition/protest party fighting WestMonster (tm), kept there by a voting system that fragments the unionist vote and consolidates the indy vote.
    Everything gets worse
    Nothing improves
    But stick *Scotland after (insert institution name here) and we'll all feel better about not being English.

    Devolution was sold as “power closer to the people” and delivered “more politicians, fewer outcomes”. Scotland now gets the worst of both worlds: centralised control with local accountability. If that’s the success story, I’d hate to see failure.

    utter bollox, only independence will ever sort Scotland's problems. As long as we are a miniscule add on to England there will never be change here as all the power and money is done in London.
    As an aside grow a pair you snivelling cur.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,257
    edited 3:10PM
    Foss said:

    You have to hand it to Apple, they can glitter a turd beter than anybody else,

    Hello, MacBook Neo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3SIKAmPXY4

    Modern MacOS on 8GB of ram will rapidly become painful for anything beyond casual sofa-surfing.
    Arhhh but you forget 8GB of magic Apple RAM is the equivalent of 16GB of normal RAM ;-) You better like using cloud apps as well, with just 256GB of storage.

    I know M4 Mac Mini isn't a laptop / no screen, but that is genuinely a great deal for £400-500 rather than a mobile processor.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,183
    Hello, this is Joani, I'm sorry but I'm not home
    But if you leave me your name and number
    I promise, soon as I get in I'll phone
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 203
    malcolmg said:

    Sweeney74 said:

    malcolmg said:

    DoctorG said:

    Some mildly good news for Anas.
    Otoh it’s going to be a terrrrible night for the SCons.

    https://x.com/electionmapsuk/status/2029178918058475556?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Reform a small swing from finishing fifth or sixth in seats
    And they were 'second in 54 seats' in that MRP.
    Lol
    Farage really has to get his finger out and name his candidates, for both Holyrood and Senedd. election day is 9 weeks tomorrow! We can all see they are hand picked, the tactic of holding off naming or sake of old social media posts will backfire badly.

    I was pretty sceptical about the MRP which has SNP as high as 67 seats, we will see some variation across Scotland and party support will be quite concentrated.

    People are finally starting to click that a list SNP vote is wasted, so I expect the Greens to get 2 MSPs in most regions.

    The Tories should be pretty concerned with recent polling, maybe even more than Mr Sarwar
    The voting system in Scotland is absolute shit
    Wales is showing the way going fully d'Hondt.

    Scotland should follow.
    Devolution should be reversed as a failed experiment.
    Scotland is stuck in political purgatory. Nothing gets done whilst power is further centralised away from councils. Second rate politicians fill the seats at the Temu Parliament and third rate councillors are left doing f-all of worth either singing for or blaming the SNP. Meanwhile the SNP act as an opposition/protest party fighting WestMonster (tm), kept there by a voting system that fragments the unionist vote and consolidates the indy vote.
    Everything gets worse
    Nothing improves
    But stick *Scotland after (insert institution name here) and we'll all feel better about not being English.

    Devolution was sold as “power closer to the people” and delivered “more politicians, fewer outcomes”. Scotland now gets the worst of both worlds: centralised control with local accountability. If that’s the success story, I’d hate to see failure.

    utter bollox, only independence will ever sort Scotland's problems. As long as we are a miniscule add on to England there will never be change here as all the power and money is done in London.
    As an aside grow a pair you snivelling cur.
    Ans so the standard of political discourse diminishes again, as it does every time a SNat opens their trap
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,420
    Foss said:

    You have to hand it to Apple, they can glitter a turd beter than anybody else,

    Hello, MacBook Neo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3SIKAmPXY4

    Modern MacOS on 8GB of ram will rapidly become painful for anything beyond casual sofa-surfing.
    I write software for a living on an M1 Macbook Air with 8GB ram. It depends on the specific workloads. Wouldn't want to edit 4k video on this machine, for example.
  • FossFoss Posts: 2,436
    carnforth said:

    You have to hand it to Apple, they can glitter a turd beter than anybody else,

    Hello, MacBook Neo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3SIKAmPXY4

    It's cheap, but it's not shitty-Windows-laptop cheap. They must know it'll cannibalise Air sales a little, and hope that the new sales more than balance it out. Wonder what the gross margin is...
    Whatever the margin is it'll be topped up by iCloud subs.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,099

    That was a terrible performance from Badenoch.

    Starmer was right, it was un-prime ministerial.

    I generally think Badenoch has got much better in her role, but there’s a time to throw the insults around and she’s still not a worked out when it’s best to avoid them. A gentler exposing of the governments position on various aspects of the ongoing events would have been far more effective than (paraphrasing) “you can’t keep the country safe because you’re fighting for your own job” and “Labour MPs are goons, LOL”
    Her first question was actually very direct and whoever thought it for her deserves credit.

    Instead of pressing it though she had a complete brain fade, asking for immediate spending rise, clear open goal for Starmer that he crammed home, then she starts woffleing on about welfare, ffs, he then completely pulled her pants down by listing efforts to repatriate, she then stated abusing everyone and tried to suppose a frigate could get to Cyprus in 2 days.

    Most Tories outside the 2 dozen cheer squad sat in silence including Cleverly.

    Starmer's very short final answer delivered with contempt and clear anger was perfect.


  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,950
    Sweeney74 said:

    malcolmg said:

    Sweeney74 said:

    malcolmg said:

    DoctorG said:

    Some mildly good news for Anas.
    Otoh it’s going to be a terrrrible night for the SCons.

    https://x.com/electionmapsuk/status/2029178918058475556?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Reform a small swing from finishing fifth or sixth in seats
    And they were 'second in 54 seats' in that MRP.
    Lol
    Farage really has to get his finger out and name his candidates, for both Holyrood and Senedd. election day is 9 weeks tomorrow! We can all see they are hand picked, the tactic of holding off naming or sake of old social media posts will backfire badly.

    I was pretty sceptical about the MRP which has SNP as high as 67 seats, we will see some variation across Scotland and party support will be quite concentrated.

    People are finally starting to click that a list SNP vote is wasted, so I expect the Greens to get 2 MSPs in most regions.

    The Tories should be pretty concerned with recent polling, maybe even more than Mr Sarwar
    The voting system in Scotland is absolute shit
    Wales is showing the way going fully d'Hondt.

    Scotland should follow.
    Devolution should be reversed as a failed experiment.
    Scotland is stuck in political purgatory. Nothing gets done whilst power is further centralised away from councils. Second rate politicians fill the seats at the Temu Parliament and third rate councillors are left doing f-all of worth either singing for or blaming the SNP. Meanwhile the SNP act as an opposition/protest party fighting WestMonster (tm), kept there by a voting system that fragments the unionist vote and consolidates the indy vote.
    Everything gets worse
    Nothing improves
    But stick *Scotland after (insert institution name here) and we'll all feel better about not being English.

    Devolution was sold as “power closer to the people” and delivered “more politicians, fewer outcomes”. Scotland now gets the worst of both worlds: centralised control with local accountability. If that’s the success story, I’d hate to see failure.

    utter bollox, only independence will ever sort Scotland's problems. As long as we are a miniscule add on to England there will never be change here as all the power and money is done in London.
    As an aside grow a pair you snivelling cur.
    Ans so the standard of political discourse diminishes again, as it does every time a SNat opens their trap
    What a zinger, further proof you are a real douche bag loser.
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 203

    Sweeney74 said:

    malcolmg said:

    DoctorG said:

    Some mildly good news for Anas.
    Otoh it’s going to be a terrrrible night for the SCons.

    https://x.com/electionmapsuk/status/2029178918058475556?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Reform a small swing from finishing fifth or sixth in seats
    And they were 'second in 54 seats' in that MRP.
    Lol
    Farage really has to get his finger out and name his candidates, for both Holyrood and Senedd. election day is 9 weeks tomorrow! We can all see they are hand picked, the tactic of holding off naming or sake of old social media posts will backfire badly.

    I was pretty sceptical about the MRP which has SNP as high as 67 seats, we will see some variation across Scotland and party support will be quite concentrated.

    People are finally starting to click that a list SNP vote is wasted, so I expect the Greens to get 2 MSPs in most regions.

    The Tories should be pretty concerned with recent polling, maybe even more than Mr Sarwar
    The voting system in Scotland is absolute shit
    Wales is showing the way going fully d'Hondt.

    Scotland should follow.
    Devolution should be reversed as a failed experiment.
    Scotland is stuck in political purgatory. Nothing gets done whilst power is further centralised away from councils. Second rate politicians fill the seats at the Temu Parliament and third rate councillors are left doing f-all of worth either singing for or blaming the SNP. Meanwhile the SNP act as an opposition/protest party fighting WestMonster (tm), kept there by a voting system that fragments the unionist vote and consolidates the indy vote.
    Everything gets worse
    Nothing improves
    But stick *Scotland after (insert institution name here) and we'll all feel better about not being English.

    Devolution was sold as “power closer to the people” and delivered “more politicians, fewer outcomes”. Scotland now gets the worst of both worlds: centralised control with local accountability. If that’s the success story, I’d hate to see failure.

    Tr: people vote for parties I don’t like so the system should be changed.

    We can always go to FPTP if you want.
    that's certainly one way of interpreting this.
    Not a sensible one.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,207
    malcolmg said:

    Sweeney74 said:

    malcolmg said:

    DoctorG said:

    Some mildly good news for Anas.
    Otoh it’s going to be a terrrrible night for the SCons.

    https://x.com/electionmapsuk/status/2029178918058475556?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Reform a small swing from finishing fifth or sixth in seats
    And they were 'second in 54 seats' in that MRP.
    Lol
    Farage really has to get his finger out and name his candidates, for both Holyrood and Senedd. election day is 9 weeks tomorrow! We can all see they are hand picked, the tactic of holding off naming or sake of old social media posts will backfire badly.

    I was pretty sceptical about the MRP which has SNP as high as 67 seats, we will see some variation across Scotland and party support will be quite concentrated.

    People are finally starting to click that a list SNP vote is wasted, so I expect the Greens to get 2 MSPs in most regions.

    The Tories should be pretty concerned with recent polling, maybe even more than Mr Sarwar
    The voting system in Scotland is absolute shit
    Wales is showing the way going fully d'Hondt.

    Scotland should follow.
    Devolution should be reversed as a failed experiment.
    Scotland is stuck in political purgatory. Nothing gets done whilst power is further centralised away from councils. Second rate politicians fill the seats at the Temu Parliament and third rate councillors are left doing f-all of worth either singing for or blaming the SNP. Meanwhile the SNP act as an opposition/protest party fighting WestMonster (tm), kept there by a voting system that fragments the unionist vote and consolidates the indy vote.
    Everything gets worse
    Nothing improves
    But stick *Scotland after (insert institution name here) and we'll all feel better about not being English.

    Devolution was sold as “power closer to the people” and delivered “more politicians, fewer outcomes”. Scotland now gets the worst of both worlds: centralised control with local accountability. If that’s the success story, I’d hate to see failure.

    utter bollox, only independence will ever sort Scotland's problems. As long as we are a miniscule add on to England there will never be change here as all the power and money is done in London.
    As an aside grow a pair you snivelling cur.
    Calm down, dear!
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 203
    malcolmg said:

    Sweeney74 said:

    malcolmg said:

    Sweeney74 said:

    malcolmg said:

    DoctorG said:

    Some mildly good news for Anas.
    Otoh it’s going to be a terrrrible night for the SCons.

    https://x.com/electionmapsuk/status/2029178918058475556?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Reform a small swing from finishing fifth or sixth in seats
    And they were 'second in 54 seats' in that MRP.
    Lol
    Farage really has to get his finger out and name his candidates, for both Holyrood and Senedd. election day is 9 weeks tomorrow! We can all see they are hand picked, the tactic of holding off naming or sake of old social media posts will backfire badly.

    I was pretty sceptical about the MRP which has SNP as high as 67 seats, we will see some variation across Scotland and party support will be quite concentrated.

    People are finally starting to click that a list SNP vote is wasted, so I expect the Greens to get 2 MSPs in most regions.

    The Tories should be pretty concerned with recent polling, maybe even more than Mr Sarwar
    The voting system in Scotland is absolute shit
    Wales is showing the way going fully d'Hondt.

    Scotland should follow.
    Devolution should be reversed as a failed experiment.
    Scotland is stuck in political purgatory. Nothing gets done whilst power is further centralised away from councils. Second rate politicians fill the seats at the Temu Parliament and third rate councillors are left doing f-all of worth either singing for or blaming the SNP. Meanwhile the SNP act as an opposition/protest party fighting WestMonster (tm), kept there by a voting system that fragments the unionist vote and consolidates the indy vote.
    Everything gets worse
    Nothing improves
    But stick *Scotland after (insert institution name here) and we'll all feel better about not being English.

    Devolution was sold as “power closer to the people” and delivered “more politicians, fewer outcomes”. Scotland now gets the worst of both worlds: centralised control with local accountability. If that’s the success story, I’d hate to see failure.

    utter bollox, only independence will ever sort Scotland's problems. As long as we are a miniscule add on to England there will never be change here as all the power and money is done in London.
    As an aside grow a pair you snivelling cur.
    Ans so the standard of political discourse diminishes again, as it does every time a SNat opens their trap
    What a zinger, further proof you are a real douche bag loser.
    I like you, you're funny.
    If you're ever in the Leith area we should have a beer.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,257
    edited 3:13PM
    If I had to buy a low end laptop (even lower than Macbook Air), I would be nuking Windows 11 straight away and putting Ubuntu on it.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 37,795
    Taz said:

    But…but…Reform…..Russia

    Even yesterday that old soak Alistair Campbell was making Russia cracks at Reform posters.

    Yet..

    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2029180263947817409?s=61

    I don't know enough to defend this woman although the fact she wasn't clapped in irons suggests at the moment at least she is not under suspicion.

    Nathan Gill on the other hand has been convicted of taking cash from Russia for making remarkably similar speeches in the European Parliament to other UKIP/Brexit/ Reform personnel. Just sayin'.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,099
    Roger said:

    Starmer's epitaph as PM: Present but not involved

    https://x.com/CDP1882/status/2029196167699943892

    Western officials have told GB News that the US has NOT launched any attacks on Iran from British bases since Starmer granted permission... but this is anticipated to change soon.

    American bombers are expected to start arriving at RAF Fairford for strikes.

    As you're their only viewer I'm surprised they bothered.

    malcolmg said:

    DoctorG said:

    Some mildly good news for Anas.
    Otoh it’s going to be a terrrrible night for the SCons.

    https://x.com/electionmapsuk/status/2029178918058475556?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Reform a small swing from finishing fifth or sixth in seats
    And they were 'second in 54 seats' in that MRP.
    Lol
    Farage really has to get his finger out and name his candidates, for both Holyrood and Senedd. election day is 9 weeks tomorrow! We can all see they are hand picked, the tactic of holding off naming or sake of old social media posts will backfire badly.

    I was pretty sceptical about the MRP which has SNP as high as 67 seats, we will see some variation across Scotland and party support will be quite concentrated.

    People are finally starting to click that a list SNP vote is wasted, so I expect the Greens to get 2 MSPs in most regions.

    The Tories should be pretty concerned with recent polling, maybe even more than Mr Sarwar
    The voting system in Scotland is absolute shit
    "It's shite being Scottish..."
    Do you have tourettes?
    GB News right..

    Is Beverly Turner going to sit on a bomb and glide down to immortality FOR Donald, St George and GB News.

    Far far more likely to be refuelling fleet any way.
  • eekeek Posts: 32,718
    edited 3:16PM

    If I had to buy a low end laptop (even lower than Macbook Air), I would be nuking Windows 11 straight away and putting Ubuntu on it.

    I've just seen the rumoured version of Windows 12 - its going to be unusable unless you pay a monthly fee.

    My Dad need a new laptop and I warned him last month he's getting a Mac. Just got to work out what screensize he wants as there are plenty of options.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,871
    IanB2 said:

    The partner of Labour MP Joani Reid has been arrested on suspicion of spying for China along with two others following a Counter Terrorism Policing investigation

    Number of media outlet are running this.

    SNP by-election victory nailed on?

    That MP must have one of the thinnest Wikipedia articles for any elected politician. She really has done nothing notable or worthwhile except being put up by Labour for election to parliament.
    From the toilet monitor, Friends of Israel wing of Labour, voted against a child grooming enquiry in Westminster then screeched & screeched because Scotland wasn’t having one, main claim to fame being grand daughter of Jimmy Reid.

    She’s asked for privacy at this difficult time.😢

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2026/mar/04/starmer-trump-iran-pmqs-immigration-uk-politics-live-news-updates?page=with:block-69a8491f8f08b61232069987
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,099
    Brixian59 said:

    Roger said:

    Starmer's epitaph as PM: Present but not involved

    https://x.com/CDP1882/status/2029196167699943892

    Western officials have told GB News that the US has NOT launched any attacks on Iran from British bases since Starmer granted permission... but this is anticipated to change soon.

    American bombers are expected to start arriving at RAF Fairford for strikes.

    As you're their only viewer I'm surprised they bothered.

    malcolmg said:

    DoctorG said:

    Some mildly good news for Anas.
    Otoh it’s going to be a terrrrible night for the SCons.

    https://x.com/electionmapsuk/status/2029178918058475556?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Reform a small swing from finishing fifth or sixth in seats
    And they were 'second in 54 seats' in that MRP.
    Lol
    Farage really has to get his finger out and name his candidates, for both Holyrood and Senedd. election day is 9 weeks tomorrow! We can all see they are hand picked, the tactic of holding off naming or sake of old social media posts will backfire badly.

    I was pretty sceptical about the MRP which has SNP as high as 67 seats, we will see some variation across Scotland and party support will be quite concentrated.

    People are finally starting to click that a list SNP vote is wasted, so I expect the Greens to get 2 MSPs in most regions.

    The Tories should be pretty concerned with recent polling, maybe even more than Mr Sarwar
    The voting system in Scotland is absolute shit
    "It's shite being Scottish..."
    Do you have tourettes?
    GB News right..

    Is Beverly Turner going to sit on a bomb and glide down to immortality FOR Donald, St George and GB News.

    Far far more likely to be refuelling fleet any way.
    I'm Beverley Fly Me
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,257
    edited 3:18PM
    eek said:

    If I had to buy a low end laptop (even lower than Macbook Air), I would be nuking Windows 11 straight away and putting Ubuntu on it.

    I've just seen the rumoured version of Windows 12 - its going to be unusable unless you pay a monthly fee.

    My Dad need a new laptop and I warned him last month he's getting a Mac. Just got to work out what screensize he wants as there are plenty of options.
    "Windows 12 Reportedly Set for Release This Year as a Fully Modular, Subscription-Based, AI-Focused OS"

    And that was a no from me as soon as I got to subscription based....let alone AI slop.

    I think the Macbook Air's are great laptops.
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 203
    edited 3:18PM

    Sweeney74 said:

    Sweeney74 said:

    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Some mildly good news for Anas.
    Otoh it’s going to be a terrrrible night for the SCons.

    https://x.com/electionmapsuk/status/2029178918058475556?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    Reform a small swing from finishing fifth or sixth in seats
    And they were 'second in 54 seats' in that MRP.
    Lol
    Farage really has to get his finger out and name his candidates, for both Holyrood and Senedd. election day is 9 weeks tomorrow! We can all see they are hand picked, the tactic of holding off naming or sake of old social media posts will backfire badly.

    I was pretty sceptical about the MRP which has SNP as high as 67 seats, we will see some variation across Scotland and party support will be quite concentrated.

    People are finally starting to click that a list SNP vote is wasted, so I expect the Greens to get 2 MSPs in most regions.

    The Tories should be pretty concerned with recent polling, maybe even more than Mr Sarwar
    The Tories are circling the drain a bit. Win a couple of constituencies and hang on for dear life on the lists looks like the aim now.
    Reform might end up horrifically underperforming. No candidates and an absolute fool as leader.
    If they do decline it might aid the Tories. The approach they take to constituencies (standimg everywhere?) might also be key
    Yes, its not looking good for Scons. Not the best move from Reform plastering Farages mug all over their leaflets in Scotland.

    The bottom end of expectations for Reform is prob about 10 seats, which they could get close to, they've made a complete shambles out of this campaign so far. The country is crying out for a credible alternative but its not there.

    I think Reform will stand in all constituencies, which should cost Slab a few seats. Surprisingly the Greens only have around 4 constituency candidates listed so far, they would be very competitive in most Glasgow and Edinburgh seats if they stood in them all - they got more than 10% in most of them at GE24.
    We also need to factor in the anti-SNP protest vote too.
    I still suspect that Labour will be a net beneficiary here as a vehicle for both anti-SNP and anti-Reform voting.
    More interestingly (YMMV) is what happens on the list.

    You mean Indy supporters are going to take Anas’s advice to them that they hold their nose and vote Labour?
    As Paul Sinclair (a speechwriter for various Labour luminaries) said the other night, the message is our party stinks.
    Indy supporters will vote SNP or Green, perhaps the Greens will eat into the SNP share a tad, but I don't expect that to move the dial.
    Normal people are left NEEDING to vote tactically to have any chance of removing the SNP from power.
    I a conservative, have voted Labour in my constituency as the most likely candidate to unseat the SNP incumbent. Didn't like doing it as I would much prefer to vote FOR something, but this is the way the vote share goes when the main determining factor is the constitution and hang everything else/
    ‘Normal people’?
    So on the basis of Indy polling at least 50% of Scots are abnormal. Got it.
    Badly phrased (deliberately? maybe)
    Normal in this case meaning everybody whoes politics is not determined by the nationalist question.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,591
    edited 3:18PM
    The footage of the torpedo hit is just insane*. Literally blew it out of the water. I have updated my profile pic accordingly.

    *AI sus
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 546
    IanB2 said:

    The partner of Labour MP Joani Reid has been arrested on suspicion of spying for China along with two others following a Counter Terrorism Policing investigation

    Number of media outlet are running this.

    SNP by-election victory nailed on?

    That MP must have one of the thinnest Wikipedia articles for any elected politician. She really has done nothing notable or worthwhile except being put up by Labour for election to parliament.
    Ironically she won her seat from the Tories*

    I don't know what its like down south, there seems to be a few unknown quantities amongst the Scottish Lab intake. Biggest write ups about her refer to her late grandfather being a Communist, back in the day. She has kept his family name after marriage

    I think its fair to say there would be quite a lot of surprised Lab candidates in Scotland at GE24 who suddenly found themselves MPs

    * via defection
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,257
    The Israeli Air Force says it has dropped more than 5,000 munitions on Iran since the beginning of the conflict on Saturday.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 37,795

    Reflecting on PMQs and generally, I feel like Badenoch has failed to read the room on this, and while I think the government are failing to really play their cards well on this, they’re actually pretty in line with the public mood.

    Badenoch getting shouty and throwing the personal insults around was her learning the wrong lessons from her budget response speech. Sometimes you do have to play the constructive critic rather than going for the jugular. It doesn’t help her that I don’t sense any great popular groundswell for getting more involved in this conflict. She is left a bit exposed on this, and looks unserious.

    Starmer, as usual, is a useless communicator. He should be much firmer on the Cyprus threat, and he could indeed be much firmer in pushing back Trump’s insults now (a finely timed “this is not how allies speak with each other” could actually have been tremendously impactful), but he has probably got the main calls correct so far.

    He has failed to respond to a military attack on our sovereign territory which is home to civilians as well as military.
    So he hasnt in any way got the big call right for me
    I suspect getting the big calls right for you would be a tall order. Kemi on the other hand is smashing it out of the park.

    It's a fair criticism after the event, bearing in mind Trump wasn't aware he was invading Iran until Bibi told him what was happening as it was happening.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,257
    edited 3:21PM
    Eabhal said:

    The footage of the torpedo hit is just insane*. Literally blew it out of the water. I have updated my profile pic accordingly.

    *AI sus

    Bit disappointing that they still not upgraded the cameras to 4k HDR....
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 31,777
    Macbook Neo vs any £600 Windows laptop. Not really a fair contest...
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,213
    Eabhal said:

    The footage of the torpedo hit is just insane*. Literally blew it out of the water. I have updated my profile pic accordingly.

    *AI sus

    The last time I saw a periscope film of an actual torpedo hit was in a WW2 film
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,625

    eek said:

    If I had to buy a low end laptop (even lower than Macbook Air), I would be nuking Windows 11 straight away and putting Ubuntu on it.

    I've just seen the rumoured version of Windows 12 - its going to be unusable unless you pay a monthly fee.

    My Dad need a new laptop and I warned him last month he's getting a Mac. Just got to work out what screensize he wants as there are plenty of options.
    "Windows 12 Reportedly Set for Release This Year as a Fully Modular, Subscription-Based, AI-Focused OS"

    And that was a no from me as soon as I got to subscription based....let alone AI slop.

    I think the Macbook Air's are great laptops.
    Subscription models are the bane of modern life. A website wanted me to set up a subscription to buy underwear.

    Whilst that's just a bit silly the tech giants won't rest until we rent everything from them.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 54,479
    edited 3:24PM
    Brixian59 said:

    IanB2 said:

    The partner of Labour MP Joani Reid has been arrested on suspicion of spying for China along with two others following a Counter Terrorism Policing investigation

    Number of media outlet are running this.

    SNP by-election victory nailed on?
    Highly likely to be widely available data.

    Nothing to see here.

    Now taking government papers while a minister to tel Aviv is a different kettle of fish.

    People in glass houses and all that.
    You’ll surely get tired of relentlessly shilling for one political party on this site, before much longer? Anyone with a modicum of awareness and insight ought to realise that it’s simply counter-productive, to this audience. It took our HY about three years to understand; hopefully a benchmark that you’re not inclined to try and beat?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,183

    Reflecting on PMQs and generally, I feel like Badenoch has failed to read the room on this, and while I think the government are failing to really play their cards well on this, they’re actually pretty in line with the public mood.

    Badenoch getting shouty and throwing the personal insults around was her learning the wrong lessons from her budget response speech. Sometimes you do have to play the constructive critic rather than going for the jugular. It doesn’t help her that I don’t sense any great popular groundswell for getting more involved in this conflict. She is left a bit exposed on this, and looks unserious.

    Starmer, as usual, is a useless communicator. He should be much firmer on the Cyprus threat, and he could indeed be much firmer in pushing back Trump’s insults now (a finely timed “this is not how allies speak with each other” could actually have been tremendously impactful), but he has probably got the main calls correct so far.

    He has failed to respond to a military attack on our sovereign territory which is home to civilians as well as military.
    So he hasnt in any way got the big call right for me
    I suspect getting the big calls right for you would be a tall order. Kemi on the other hand is smashing it out of the park.

    It's a fair criticism after the event, bearing in mind Trump wasn't aware he was invading Iran until Bibi told him what was happening as it was happening.
    Well not responding to an attack on British territory amd civilians is a red line for me so, yes, he has his work cut out with me
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,591

    Eabhal said:

    The footage of the torpedo hit is just insane*. Literally blew it out of the water. I have updated my profile pic accordingly.

    *AI sus

    The last time I saw a periscope film of an actual torpedo hit was in a WW2 film
    Well they have huge ranges on them now. The Americans crept right up on them, just for the meme value.
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,699

    Taz said:

    But…but…Reform…..Russia

    Even yesterday that old soak Alistair Campbell was making Russia cracks at Reform posters.

    Yet..

    https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2029180263947817409?s=61

    I don't know enough to defend this woman although the fact she wasn't clapped in irons suggests at the moment at least she is not under suspicion.

    Nathan Gill on the other hand has been convicted of taking cash from Russia for making remarkably similar speeches in the European Parliament to other UKIP/Brexit/ Reform personnel. Just sayin'.
    If we’re looking at foreign influence in our politics, as Ed Davey said, it needs to be root and branch.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 546
    Leon said:

    I for one cannot believe that this honourable patriotic Labour government has been infiltrated and compromised by agents working for the Chinese. Nothing - literally nothing - in the UK government’s behaviour - from allowing the Chinese to build a massive spy base in Buckingham Palace to giving half of Sussex to China as long as they take £700000bn of our money as well. - has ever given any indication of this treachery

    Did you notice any Lab MPs or spouses out and about Wuhan on your travels?
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,699
    Eabhal said:

    The footage of the torpedo hit is just insane*. Literally blew it out of the water. I have updated my profile pic accordingly.

    *AI sus

    Thanks for sharing 👍
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,699

    eek said:

    If I had to buy a low end laptop (even lower than Macbook Air), I would be nuking Windows 11 straight away and putting Ubuntu on it.

    I've just seen the rumoured version of Windows 12 - its going to be unusable unless you pay a monthly fee.

    My Dad need a new laptop and I warned him last month he's getting a Mac. Just got to work out what screensize he wants as there are plenty of options.
    "Windows 12 Reportedly Set for Release This Year as a Fully Modular, Subscription-Based, AI-Focused OS"

    And that was a no from me as soon as I got to subscription based....let alone AI slop.

    I think the Macbook Air's are great laptops.
    I’m still on windows 7
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,412
    Scott_xP said:

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    Spanish PM Pedro Sánchez on Iran: “Spain is against this disaster. Because we understand that governments are here to improve people's lives, to provide solutions to problems, not to make people's lives worse.

    “And it is absolutely unacceptable that those leaders who are unable to fulfill that mission use the smoke of war to hide their failure and, in the process, fill the pockets of a few.”

    I think a lot of leaders (except Starmer, obviously) are going to realise that Lulu got it right. Standing up to Trump is popular with voters.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,183
    carnforth said:

    Foss said:

    You have to hand it to Apple, they can glitter a turd beter than anybody else,

    Hello, MacBook Neo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3SIKAmPXY4

    Modern MacOS on 8GB of ram will rapidly become painful for anything beyond casual sofa-surfing.
    I write software for a living on an M1 Macbook Air with 8GB ram. It depends on the specific workloads. Wouldn't want to edit 4k video on this machine, for example.
    The Neo is a machine for those who want a tablet with keyboard.

    They are going to sell a lot to people who surf the web, write some emails and a few docs.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,213
    IanB2 said:

    Brixian59 said:

    IanB2 said:

    The partner of Labour MP Joani Reid has been arrested on suspicion of spying for China along with two others following a Counter Terrorism Policing investigation

    Number of media outlet are running this.

    SNP by-election victory nailed on?
    Highly likely to be widely available data.

    Nothing to see here.

    Now taking government papers while a minister to tel Aviv is a different kettle of fish.

    People in glass houses and all that.
    You’ll surely get tired of relentlessly shilling for one political party on this site, before much longer? Anyone with a modicum of awareness and insight ought to realise that it’s simply counter-productive, to this audience. It took our HY about three years to understand; hopefully a benchmark that you’re not inclined to try and beat?
    @Brixian59 posts are so predictable and obssesive due to his irrational hatred

    And as you say, he may not see it, but it is certainly counter productive and boring
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,257
    edited 3:33PM

    carnforth said:

    Foss said:

    You have to hand it to Apple, they can glitter a turd beter than anybody else,

    Hello, MacBook Neo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3SIKAmPXY4

    Modern MacOS on 8GB of ram will rapidly become painful for anything beyond casual sofa-surfing.
    I write software for a living on an M1 Macbook Air with 8GB ram. It depends on the specific workloads. Wouldn't want to edit 4k video on this machine, for example.
    The Neo is a machine for those who want a tablet with keyboard.

    They are going to sell a lot to people who surf the web, write some emails and a few docs.
    It that not just cannabilising both ipad and macbook air sales? Outside of those that make extensive use of the magic pencil, what the point of the ipad ? More limited OS than full Mac OS.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 40,659
    FON seems to be prompting regularly now, for Restore, and Your Party.

    Without such prompting, Reform would likely be on 25/26%, and the Conservatives on 18/19%.

    Reform UK: 24%
    🟢 Greens: 20%
    🔵 Conservatives: 17%
    🔴 Labour: 16%
    🟠 Lib Dems: 10%
    ⬛ Restore Britain: 7%
    🔴 Your Party: 1%

  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,183
    Reform getting reeled in
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 8,830
    Sean_F said:

    FON seems to be prompting regularly now, for Restore, and Your Party.

    Without such prompting, Reform would likely be on 25/26%, and the Conservatives on 18/19%.

    Reform UK: 24%
    🟢 Greens: 20%
    🔵 Conservatives: 17%
    🔴 Labour: 16%
    🟠 Lib Dems: 10%
    ⬛ Restore Britain: 7%
    🔴 Your Party: 1%

    Restore at 7%? It feels iffy to me.

    I’m not quite as down on FON as others but it’s true they do seem to register much larger shares for the insurgent/populist crowd.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 546
    edited 3:36PM
    Taz said:

    😂😂😂😂

    Haha, its not the article readers eyes we need to be concerned about
  • Another poll showing Reform on the way back.

    Not good for them.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 40,659

    Reform getting reeled in
    It's not readily comparable with other polls, which do not prompt for Restore, or Your Party (Restore would obviously get nothing like 7%).
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,257
    edited 3:37PM
    Sean_F said:

    FON seems to be prompting regularly now, for Restore, and Your Party.

    Without such prompting, Reform would likely be on 25/26%, and the Conservatives on 18/19%.

    Reform UK: 24%
    🟢 Greens: 20%
    🔵 Conservatives: 17%
    🔴 Labour: 16%
    🟠 Lib Dems: 10%
    ⬛ Restore Britain: 7%
    🔴 Your Party: 1%

    Restore Party. I forget which right wing lot is that, Rupert Lowe or the Ben Habib or somebody else? If I don't know who the f##k they are, I am a bit suss the public do.

    YourParty definitely fumbled the ball.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 22,135
    Taz said:

    eek said:

    If I had to buy a low end laptop (even lower than Macbook Air), I would be nuking Windows 11 straight away and putting Ubuntu on it.

    I've just seen the rumoured version of Windows 12 - its going to be unusable unless you pay a monthly fee.

    My Dad need a new laptop and I warned him last month he's getting a Mac. Just got to work out what screensize he wants as there are plenty of options.
    "Windows 12 Reportedly Set for Release This Year as a Fully Modular, Subscription-Based, AI-Focused OS"

    And that was a no from me as soon as I got to subscription based....let alone AI slop.

    I think the Macbook Air's are great laptops.
    I’m still on windows 7
    ZX81 - starts up in the blink of an eye.
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,699
    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @chadbourn.bsky.social‬

    Spanish PM Pedro Sánchez on Iran: “Spain is against this disaster. Because we understand that governments are here to improve people's lives, to provide solutions to problems, not to make people's lives worse.

    “And it is absolutely unacceptable that those leaders who are unable to fulfill that mission use the smoke of war to hide their failure and, in the process, fill the pockets of a few.”

    I think a lot of leaders (except Starmer, obviously) are going to realise that Lulu got it right. Standing up to Trump is popular with voters.
    Indeed. It may or may not be the correct thing to do but it’s electorally advantageous and that’s all that matters to politicians.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 63,412
    Totally off topic... the new base Apple laptop looks like it could be really great value, with some very sensible compromises. Just a shame it only has 8gb or RAM rather than 16gb.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,292

    Reform getting reeled in
    Be a big day in UK politics when they aren't leading.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,183
    edited 3:39PM
    Sean_F said:

    FON seems to be prompting regularly now, for Restore, and Your Party.

    Without such prompting, Reform would likely be on 25/26%, and the Conservatives on 18/19%.

    Reform UK: 24%
    🟢 Greens: 20%
    🔵 Conservatives: 17%
    🔴 Labour: 16%
    🟠 Lib Dems: 10%
    ⬛ Restore Britain: 7%
    🔴 Your Party: 1%

    They said last week this wouldnt be a regular thing!
    The usual VI will/should be out tomorrow w/o Restore YP prompts
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,257
    edited 3:40PM
    rcs1000 said:

    Totally off topic... the new base Apple laptop looks like it could be really great value, with some very sensible compromises. Just a shame it only has 8gb or RAM rather than 16gb.

    With only a mobile chip, why not just buy an M2 / M3 macbook air?
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 40,659

    Sean_F said:

    FON seems to be prompting regularly now, for Restore, and Your Party.

    Without such prompting, Reform would likely be on 25/26%, and the Conservatives on 18/19%.

    Reform UK: 24%
    🟢 Greens: 20%
    🔵 Conservatives: 17%
    🔴 Labour: 16%
    🟠 Lib Dems: 10%
    ⬛ Restore Britain: 7%
    🔴 Your Party: 1%

    Restore Party. I forget which right wing lot is that, Rupert Lowe or the Ben Habib or somebody else? If I don't know who the f##k they are, I am a bit suss the public do.

    YourParty definitely fumbled the ball.
    Advance got four votes fewer than Sir Oink A Lot, in Gorton. Those voters don't exist outside of Great Yarmouth, in reality.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 8,830
    edited 3:43PM
    Sean_F said:

    Reform getting reeled in
    It's not readily comparable with other polls, which do not prompt for Restore, or Your Party (Restore would obviously get nothing like 7%).
    I might be being a bit unfair on the political knowledge of the general population, but I’d be surprised if 7% know who Restore Britain actually are.

    If anything I wonder if the prompting is having the effect of reducing the Reform vote, because people are getting their “Re-s” mixed up.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,183

    Reform getting reeled in
    Be a big day in UK politics when they aren't leading.
    Zia will be straight on X to say its all a conspiracy
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 203

    carnforth said:

    Foss said:

    You have to hand it to Apple, they can glitter a turd beter than anybody else,

    Hello, MacBook Neo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3SIKAmPXY4

    Modern MacOS on 8GB of ram will rapidly become painful for anything beyond casual sofa-surfing.
    I write software for a living on an M1 Macbook Air with 8GB ram. It depends on the specific workloads. Wouldn't want to edit 4k video on this machine, for example.
    The Neo is a machine for those who want a tablet with keyboard.

    They are going to sell a lot to people who surf the web, write some emails and a few docs.
    it's the same weight as a MacBook Air, and about half the price.
    If you're not doing much other than web, docs/emails and Netflix, then this looks superb.

    You could probably run VSCode or Cursor on it too...
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 40,659

    Sean_F said:

    Reform getting reeled in
    It's not readily comparable with other polls, which do not prompt for Restore, or Your Party (Restore would obviously get nothing like 7%).
    I might bring a bit unfair on the political knowledge of the general population, but I’d be surprised if 7% know who Restore Britain actually are.

    If anything I wonder if the prompting is having the effect of reducing the Reform vote, because people are getting their “Re-s” mixed up.
    For a certainty.
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 203

    rcs1000 said:

    Totally off topic... the new base Apple laptop looks like it could be really great value, with some very sensible compromises. Just a shame it only has 8gb or RAM rather than 16gb.

    With only a mobile chip, why not just buy an M2 / M3 macbook air?
    it's half the price of the Air...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 58,292

    Reform getting reeled in
    Be a big day in UK politics when they aren't leading.
    Zia will be straight on X to say its all a conspiracy
    They are surely going to look like mardy arses.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,257
    edited 3:44PM
    Sweeney74 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Totally off topic... the new base Apple laptop looks like it could be really great value, with some very sensible compromises. Just a shame it only has 8gb or RAM rather than 16gb.

    With only a mobile chip, why not just buy an M2 / M3 macbook air?
    it's half the price of the Air...
    M5 macbook Air yes, but you can get M3 now for £500. And M4 will be on mega sale for a while as the M5 is out now.
  • Sweeney74Sweeney74 Posts: 203

    Sweeney74 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Totally off topic... the new base Apple laptop looks like it could be really great value, with some very sensible compromises. Just a shame it only has 8gb or RAM rather than 16gb.

    With only a mobile chip, why not just buy an M2 / M3 macbook air?
    it's half the price of the Air...
    M5 macbook Air yes, but you can get M3 now for £500. And M4 will be on mega sale for a while as the M5 is out now.
    Not on the Apple UK shop
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 54,479
    Taz said:

    😂😂😂😂

    Condemned by being tipped by that tragic comic?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,183
    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    FON seems to be prompting regularly now, for Restore, and Your Party.

    Without such prompting, Reform would likely be on 25/26%, and the Conservatives on 18/19%.

    Reform UK: 24%
    🟢 Greens: 20%
    🔵 Conservatives: 17%
    🔴 Labour: 16%
    🟠 Lib Dems: 10%
    ⬛ Restore Britain: 7%
    🔴 Your Party: 1%

    Restore Party. I forget which right wing lot is that, Rupert Lowe or the Ben Habib or somebody else? If I don't know who the f##k they are, I am a bit suss the public do.

    YourParty definitely fumbled the ball.
    Advance got four votes fewer than Sir Oink A Lot, in Gorton. Those voters don't exist outside of Great Yarmouth, in reality.
    Advance certainly are a joke 0.1% party. Restore have enough of the noisy online right on board to be Griffin 2010. But they might mess things up for Reform in the Norfolk CC election
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 90,257
    Sweeney74 said:

    Sweeney74 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Totally off topic... the new base Apple laptop looks like it could be really great value, with some very sensible compromises. Just a shame it only has 8gb or RAM rather than 16gb.

    With only a mobile chip, why not just buy an M2 / M3 macbook air?
    it's half the price of the Air...
    M5 macbook Air yes, but you can get M3 now for £500. And M4 will be on mega sale for a while as the M5 is out now.
    Not on the Apple UK shop
    They shift their old stock to other places as they don't want cannablising.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,809

    Sean_F said:

    FON seems to be prompting regularly now, for Restore, and Your Party.

    Without such prompting, Reform would likely be on 25/26%, and the Conservatives on 18/19%.

    Reform UK: 24%
    🟢 Greens: 20%
    🔵 Conservatives: 17%
    🔴 Labour: 16%
    🟠 Lib Dems: 10%
    ⬛ Restore Britain: 7%
    🔴 Your Party: 1%

    Restore Party. I forget which right wing lot is that, Rupert Lowe or the Ben Habib or somebody else? If I don't know who the f##k they are, I am a bit suss the public do.

    YourParty definitely fumbled the ball.
    Going to have to update the RefCon vs LLG matrix.

    Refrescon 48, LLGY 47.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,384
    I have to say after two years in charge this is the first time I have been proud of our British government. I've just listened to Pete Hegseth and 'The Rest Is Politics' and who would believe that we've finally got ourselves a PM who believes in the rule of law and has higher values than the current US administration and two of our own opposition parties.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,183
    Taz said:

    😂😂😂😂

    ChickenChowLongGame
  • TazTaz Posts: 25,699
    Ouch

    Dish best served cold.

    ‘ Joani Reid spent much of her time at Labour conference calling me an antisemite. Perhaps that time would have been better spent checking what her partner was up to...’



    Lewisham councillor,parachuted into winnable seat in Scotland.

    But..but…Reform.

    https://x.com/rivkahbrown/status/2029201626687238365?s=61
  • eekeek Posts: 32,718

    rcs1000 said:

    Totally off topic... the new base Apple laptop looks like it could be really great value, with some very sensible compromises. Just a shame it only has 8gb or RAM rather than 16gb.

    With only a mobile chip, why not just buy an M2 / M3 macbook air?
    Macs have a 7 year support cycle. So that M2 will likely only be supported by Apple until 2028/9
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 54,479
    edited 3:52PM

    Sean_F said:

    FON seems to be prompting regularly now, for Restore, and Your Party.

    Without such prompting, Reform would likely be on 25/26%, and the Conservatives on 18/19%.

    Reform UK: 24%
    🟢 Greens: 20%
    🔵 Conservatives: 17%
    🔴 Labour: 16%
    🟠 Lib Dems: 10%
    ⬛ Restore Britain: 7%
    🔴 Your Party: 1%

    Restore Party. I forget which right wing lot is that, Rupert Lowe or the Ben Habib or somebody else? If I don't know who the f##k they are, I am a bit suss the public do.

    YourParty definitely fumbled the ball.
    It’s worth looking at the 22/23 odds for laying Restore Britain on BFE for ‘most seats’ - obviously something that ought to be priced at 1000/1. If you’re entering the market fresh, laying a bet at those odds isn’t worthwhile, given it could be three years before it pays out. But if you’re already invested and have been laying your party of choice (Reform, in my case), then laying Restore down to zero or somewhat below, at those odds, both releases funds back into your account and adds a few £ to your green positions on all the other parties.

    Who the numpty is who is offering those odds on Restore on the other side of the bet, I cannot imagine. Presumably some wealthy backer for whom gifting us more clued-up political betters a few free £ is of no financial consequence?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,005
    Roger said:

    I have to say after two years in charge this is the first time I have been proud of our British government. I've just listened to Pete Hegseth and 'The Rest Is Politics' and who would believe that we've finally got ourselves a PM who believes in the rule of law and has higher values than the current US administration and two of our own opposition parties.

    Wasn't Rory Stewart tearing into Keir Starmer for being too conciliatory towards Trump?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 101,625

    Sean_F said:

    FON seems to be prompting regularly now, for Restore, and Your Party.

    Without such prompting, Reform would likely be on 25/26%, and the Conservatives on 18/19%.

    Reform UK: 24%
    🟢 Greens: 20%
    🔵 Conservatives: 17%
    🔴 Labour: 16%
    🟠 Lib Dems: 10%
    ⬛ Restore Britain: 7%
    🔴 Your Party: 1%

    Restore Party. I forget which right wing lot is that, Rupert Lowe or the Ben Habib or somebody else? If I don't know who the f##k they are, I am a bit suss the public do.

    YourParty definitely fumbled the ball.
    YP included one leader past their prime and the other not yet with sufficient profile. Then their incompetence cemented that Polanski surge was the new game in town.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 54,479
    Roger said:

    I have to say after two years in charge this is the first time I have been proud of our British government. I've just listened to Pete Hegseth and 'The Rest Is Politics' and who would believe that we've finally got ourselves a PM who believes in the rule of law and has higher values than the current US administration and two of our own opposition parties.

    Much as I dislike our myriad governments that have gone before, I’d struggle to accept that any of them had lower values than the current US administration?
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