The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
That's you openly wishing death on someone; indeed that's you openly wishing for a successfully murderous attack by IslamoNazis on a British citizen
Do you thank benefits the forum? Or your soul?
I openly wish death on truly evil people; Putin, Robinson, Jozef Fritzl.
What's he done to put him in that category?
Well, what he's been found guilty of is...
- assault occasioning actual bodily harm and assault with intent to resist arrest, 2004 - using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, and leading a group of football hooligans into a fight, 2010 - use of a false passport, 2012 - mortgage fraud, 2012 - contempt of court, 2017 - libel, 2018, and contempt of court again for repeating the libel, 2024 - stalking a journalist and her partner, 2021
Are Reform worried about losing votes to Restore? Zia Yusuf was talking about the 'patriotic duty' to do a deal with the Tories if it were required this weekend. Yep. They are.
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
That's you openly wishing death on someone; indeed that's you openly wishing for a successfully murderous attack by IslamoNazis on a British citizen
Do you thank benefits the forum? Or your soul?
I openly wish death on truly evil people; Putin, Robinson, Jozef Fritzl.
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
That's you openly wishing death on someone; indeed that's you openly wishing for a successfully murderous attack by IslamoNazis on a British citizen
Do you thank benefits the forum? Or your soul?
I openly wish death on truly evil people; Putin, Robinson, Jozef Fritzl.
What's he done to put him in that category?
Well, what he's been found guilty of is...
- assault occasioning actual bodily harm and assault with intent to resist arrest, 2004 - using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, and leading a group of football hooligans into a fight, 2010 - use of a false passport, 2012 - mortgage fraud, 2012 - contempt of court, 2017 - libel, 2018, and contempt of court again for repeating the libel, 2024 - stalking a journalist and her partner, 2021
Indeed, just as bad and evil as raping his own daughter and invading another country.
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
Inapproriate comment.
Indeed
What we want is ISIS and Tommy Robinson attacking each other *unsuccessfully*, over many, many years.
This would keep them from doing harm to anything valuable and provide valuable entertainment.
"The Birmingham ward where a convicted terrorist is running for office Sparkhill’s residents are angry bomb-plotter Shadid Butt is launching a council bid – and hope Sharon Osbourne can be an unlikely saviour"
One positive of England losing to Italy is that it means the end of Brendon McCullum.
I can only admire your optimism.
And unless he is actually replaced by somebody competent, say Richard Dawson or Alfonso Thomas, I don't think it will make much difference as long as Key is still there and picking his mates.
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
That's you openly wishing death on someone; indeed that's you openly wishing for a successfully murderous attack by IslamoNazis on a British citizen
Do you thank benefits the forum? Or your soul?
Personally I'd rather see the bastard rot in a hell hole jail somewhere for the rest of his life.
If UK prisons are too soft may be we could swop him for someone in a hell hole despot County, or Hong Kong may be - let the Chinese have him.
He’s currently awaiting trial in October on charges of harassment causing fear of violence against two journalists, so depending on how that case goes, he could be back in jail for the… I think sixth time.
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
Do you honestly think the world would be a better place if a Muslim terrorist murdered Tommy Robinson?
He should be in jail as a criminal, not deceased as a "martyr".
If you wanted a result to produce a Reform and Restore landslide then yes the murder of Robinson by Muslim extremists would be it
"The Birmingham ward where a convicted terrorist is running for office Sparkhill’s residents are angry bomb-plotter Shadid Butt is launching a council bid – and hope Sharon Osbourne can be an unlikely saviour"
"The Birmingham ward where a convicted terrorist is running for office Sparkhill’s residents are angry bomb-plotter Shadid Butt is launching a council bid – and hope Sharon Osbourne can be an unlikely saviour"
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
Do you honestly think the world would be a better place if a Muslim terrorist murdered Tommy Robinson?
He should be in jail as a criminal, not deceased as a "martyr".
If you wanted a result to produce a Reform and Restore landslide then yes the murder of Robinson by Muslim extremists would be it
I'm not convinced of that. Charlie Kirk's murder didn't shift polling in the US.
"The Birmingham ward where a convicted terrorist is running for office Sparkhill’s residents are angry bomb-plotter Shadid Butt is launching a council bid – and hope Sharon Osbourne can be an unlikely saviour"
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
Do you honestly think the world would be a better place if a Muslim terrorist murdered Tommy Robinson?
He should be in jail as a criminal, not deceased as a "martyr".
If you wanted a result to produce a Reform and Restore landslide then yes the murder of Robinson by Muslim extremists would be it
I'm not convinced of that. Charlie Kirk's murder didn't shift polling in the US.
But let's hope no-one gets murdered!
Trump of course won after he was shot and if it was Muslim terrorists who killed Robinson that would massively expand the culture wars and anti immigration sentiment, especially anti Muslim immigrant sentiment
I was out convassing this weekend, and met a few stand-out constituents:
1) The 90-year old bloke who referred to Farage as "my mate", was convinced that the Lib Dems were in favour of unilateral disarmament and that Ed Davey was personally and fully responsible for the Horizon scandal. He then went on to give us a full list of the medications that he was on. Former Tory, now definite Reform.
2) The neighbour of the aforementioned gent, an English lady of South Asian heritage, who was scared of him and his family and felt extremely intimidated by the flag wavers. She very worried about her Muslim parents and had warned them not to venture into the flag festooned areas. She felt that the UK was rapidly going backwards with regard to tolerance and wished that she was in a position to emigrate to Canada or Australia. Voted Lib Dem last time, probably this time too.
3) The initally belligerant 50-something bloke who was fed up with both Labour and the Conservatives (no accountability!) and intended to vote Reform. After a bit of a chat, though, he calmed down and did seem to consider that the Lib Dems might also be a possible protest vote, and actually requested a leaflet from us. Former Tory, this time probable Reform but possibly Lib Dem.
As expected, most are utterly pissed off with Labour, especially because of the bin strike. Our main job seems to be to remind people that Reform are not the only protest vote and, indeed, already don't have a stellar track record themselves when it comes to running councils.
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
Do you honestly think the world would be a better place if a Muslim terrorist murdered Tommy Robinson?
He should be in jail as a criminal, not deceased as a "martyr".
If you wanted a result to produce a Reform and Restore landslide then yes the murder of Robinson by Muslim extremists would be it
I'm not convinced of that. Charlie Kirk's murder didn't shift polling in the US.
But let's hope no-one gets murdered!
Trump of course won after he was shot
It was the person next to him that got shot. Trump got a grazed ear.
Melissa Hartman was assassinated at around the same time, of course.
If that's what happened, and I have my doubts while not being given to Leonine flights of hysteria, then it's not nothing. Even a near miss from small arms can shit you up for good.
"The Birmingham ward where a convicted terrorist is running for office Sparkhill’s residents are angry bomb-plotter Shadid Butt is launching a council bid – and hope Sharon Osbourne can be an unlikely saviour"
He was convicted of terrorism in Yemen in 1999, but says the charges were fabricated and his confession obtained under torture.
Of course, UK democracy has often seen terrorists stand for office before, and several were elected.
Terrorism has a massively wide definition. To my mind, attempting to overthrow a totalitarian government by force, for example, is not terrorism, and I suspect that Yemen in 1999 was no democracy and political opponents of the government had no choice but to use force.
I was out convassing this weekend, and met a few stand-out constituents:
1) The 90-year old bloke who referred to Farage as "my mate", was convinced that the Lib Dems were in favour of unilateral disarmament and that Ed Davey was personally and fully responsible for the Horizon scandal. He then went on to give us a full list of the medications that he was on. Former Tory, now definite Reform.
2) The neighbour of the aforementioned gent, an English lady of South Asian heritage, who was scared of him and his family and felt extremely intimidated by the flag wavers. She very worried about her Muslim parents and had warned them not to venture into the flag festooned areas. She felt that the UK was rapidly going backwards with regard to tolerance and wished that she was in a position to emigrate to Canada or Australia. Voted Lib Dem last time, probably this time too.
3) The initally belligerant 50-something bloke who was fed up with both Labour and the Conservatives (no accountability!) and intended to vote Reform. After a bit of a chat, though, he calmed down and did seem to consider that the Lib Dems might also be a possible protest vote, and actually requested a leaflet from us. Former Tory, this time probable Reform but possibly Lib Dem.
As expected, most are utterly pissed off with Labour, especially because of the bin strike. Our main job seems to be to remind people that Reform are not the only protest vote and, indeed, already don't have a stellar track record themselves when it comes to running councils.
How bleak to live in fear of your neighbour. There are some really vile people out there. I'm grateful to live in the kind of place where neighbours look out for each other.
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
Do you honestly think the world would be a better place if a Muslim terrorist murdered Tommy Robinson?
He should be in jail as a criminal, not deceased as a "martyr".
If you wanted a result to produce a Reform and Restore landslide then yes the murder of Robinson by Muslim extremists would be it
I'm not convinced of that. Charlie Kirk's murder didn't shift polling in the US.
But let's hope no-one gets murdered!
Trump of course won after he was shot
It was the person next to him that got shot. Trump got a grazed ear.
Melissa Hartman was assassinated at around the same time, of course.
The assumption is the grazed ear was through being shot. Of course the conspiracy theories say otherwise.
If that's what happened, and I have my doubts while not being given to Leonine flights of hysteria, then it's not nothing. Even a near miss from small arms can shit you up for good.
If that's what happened, and I have my doubts while not being given to Leonine flights of hysteria, then it's not nothing. Even a near miss from small arms can shit you up for good.
Luckily it missed his brain by several feet (to recycle an old joke from, I think, Not the Nine O'clock News)
If that's what happened, and I have my doubts while not being given to Leonine flights of hysteria, then it's not nothing. Even a near miss from small arms can shit you up for good.
Luckily it missed his brain by several feet (to recycle an old joke from, I think, Not the Nine O'clock News)
Good job it didn't hit him in the forehead. Ricochets can be very nasty.
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Rupert Lowe is an estimable and noble gent in many ways, as we all can surely agree (for once!), but one of the best things about him is that he shifts the Overton Windpw firmly to the right, Making Reform look what they are: a sensible centrist vote. For ethnocentrist dads
Thus he possibly benefits Farage
Have the Greens or Your Party dragged the Overton Window leftward? Not as I have noticed. Farage remains what he has always been, a rightwing traditional Tory hoping to show enough leg to voters further to the right to persuade them into his camp while maintaining enough distance from outright fascists to keep centre right voters on board. I reckon Lowe unambiguously makes that position harder for him to maintain.
Actually, I think the Greens HAVE successfully shifted the Green Overton Window, hence the absurdity that is Ed Miliband's ministerial career 2024-now
Your Party, not so much, unless there is an Overton Window of political ineptitude, which they are eager to fill
If that's what happened, and I have my doubts while not being given to Leonine flights of hysteria, then it's not nothing. Even a near miss from small arms can shit you up for good.
Luckily it missed his brain by several feet (to recycle an old joke from, I think, Not the Nine O'clock News)
To hit Trumps brain.... that would take someone better than Simo Häyhä.
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
That's you openly wishing death on someone; indeed that's you openly wishing for a successfully murderous attack by IslamoNazis on a British citizen
Do you thank benefits the forum? Or your soul?
I openly wish death on truly evil people; Putin, Robinson, Jozef Fritzl.
What's he done to put him in that category?
Well, what he's been found guilty of is...
- assault occasioning actual bodily harm and assault with intent to resist arrest, 2004 - using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, and leading a group of football hooligans into a fight, 2010 - use of a false passport, 2012 - mortgage fraud, 2012 - contempt of court, 2017 - libel, 2018, and contempt of court again for repeating the libel, 2024 - stalking a journalist and her partner, 2021
He's no doubt a nasty piece of work. But I think he doesn't quite merit the same class as Putin who has unleashed a war killing hundreds of thousands (?) and all the other things.
I am conflicted about him. For his own ends he pushed a narrative about the thing that cannot be discussed that others feared to tread (and still do, and still wilfully ignore). He was right, to a large extent. But then stopped clocks etc. And his motives were never about protection of young girls and women, it was all about the anti-muslim sentiment.
Its in everyone's interests not to sabotage court cases, but it can often seem odd when there seems to be secrecy about certain trials and not others. Bad actors will then inflate their conspiracies.
I was out convassing this weekend, and met a few stand-out constituents:
1) The 90-year old bloke who referred to Farage as "my mate", was convinced that the Lib Dems were in favour of unilateral disarmament and that Ed Davey was personally and fully responsible for the Horizon scandal. He then went on to give us a full list of the medications that he was on. Former Tory, now definite Reform.
2) The neighbour of the aforementioned gent, an English lady of South Asian heritage, who was scared of him and his family and felt extremely intimidated by the flag wavers. She very worried about her Muslim parents and had warned them not to venture into the flag festooned areas. She felt that the UK was rapidly going backwards with regard to tolerance and wished that she was in a position to emigrate to Canada or Australia. Voted Lib Dem last time, probably this time too.
3) The initally belligerant 50-something bloke who was fed up with both Labour and the Conservatives (no accountability!) and intended to vote Reform. After a bit of a chat, though, he calmed down and did seem to consider that the Lib Dems might also be a possible protest vote, and actually requested a leaflet from us. Former Tory, this time probable Reform but possibly Lib Dem.
As expected, most are utterly pissed off with Labour, especially because of the bin strike. Our main job seems to be to remind people that Reform are not the only protest vote and, indeed, already don't have a stellar track record themselves when it comes to running councils.
2 That would be the Australia where Pauline Hanson’s hardline anti immigration party is also surging in the polls?
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
That's you openly wishing death on someone; indeed that's you openly wishing for a successfully murderous attack by IslamoNazis on a British citizen
Do you thank benefits the forum? Or your soul?
I openly wish death on truly evil people; Putin, Robinson, Jozef Fritzl.
What's he done to put him in that category?
Well, what he's been found guilty of is...
- assault occasioning actual bodily harm and assault with intent to resist arrest, 2004 - using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, and leading a group of football hooligans into a fight, 2010 - use of a false passport, 2012 - mortgage fraud, 2012 - contempt of court, 2017 - libel, 2018, and contempt of court again for repeating the libel, 2024 - stalking a journalist and her partner, 2021
He's no doubt a nasty piece of work. But I think he doesn't quite merit the same class as Putin who has unleashed a war killing hundreds of thousands (?) and all the other things.
I am conflicted about him. For his own ends he pushed a narrative about the thing that cannot be discussed that others feared to tread (and still do, and still wilfully ignore). He was right, to a large extent. But then stopped clocks etc. And his motives were never about protection of young girls and women, it was all about the anti-muslim sentiment.
Its in everyone's interests not to sabotage court cases, but it can often seem odd when there seems to be secrecy about certain trials and not others. Bad actors will then inflate their conspiracies.
He was a covenient way to block the revealing of The Thing We Can't Talk About. Probably delayed publication in the mainstream press by *years*.
The reason that some trials are held in varying level of secrecy, is nearly always agitation/threats of violence regarding witness or the matter in hand. So anti-muslim rabble rouser and promoter of violence is surprised that trials involving some muslims (for example) have to be held with reporting restrictions?
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Rupert Lowe is an estimable and noble gent in many ways, as we all can surely agree (for once!), but one of the best things about him is that he shifts the Overton Windpw firmly to the right, Making Reform look what they are: a sensible centrist vote. For ethnocentrist dads
Thus he possibly benefits Farage
I had to look this up, but it seems estimable and inestimable are a rare example of the positive and negative meaning much the same thing. A bit like flammable and inflammable*. Inestimable is technically a bit more superlative than estimable though
*Actually inflammable isn't a negative of course, it just looks like one.
I was out convassing this weekend, and met a few stand-out constituents:
1) The 90-year old bloke who referred to Farage as "my mate", was convinced that the Lib Dems were in favour of unilateral disarmament and that Ed Davey was personally and fully responsible for the Horizon scandal. He then went on to give us a full list of the medications that he was on. Former Tory, now definite Reform.
2) The neighbour of the aforementioned gent, an English lady of South Asian heritage, who was scared of him and his family and felt extremely intimidated by the flag wavers. She very worried about her Muslim parents and had warned them not to venture into the flag festooned areas. She felt that the UK was rapidly going backwards with regard to tolerance and wished that she was in a position to emigrate to Canada or Australia. Voted Lib Dem last time, probably this time too.
3) The initally belligerant 50-something bloke who was fed up with both Labour and the Conservatives (no accountability!) and intended to vote Reform. After a bit of a chat, though, he calmed down and did seem to consider that the Lib Dems might also be a possible protest vote, and actually requested a leaflet from us. Former Tory, this time probable Reform but possibly Lib Dem.
As expected, most are utterly pissed off with Labour, especially because of the bin strike. Our main job seems to be to remind people that Reform are not the only protest vote and, indeed, already don't have a stellar track record themselves when it comes to running councils.
2 That would be the Australia where Pauline Hanson’s hardline anti immigration party is also surging in the polls?
You think that justifies this ladies fear and intimidation
One positive of England losing to Italy is that it means the end of Brendon McCullum.
No chance, I have a fiver on the Italians at 15-1.
Not sure how sure Rome is looking on March 7th either tbh.
I'm not that worried yet about the rugby. Scotland produced their best performance in ages against England, had the best of the bounce of the ball and a bit of help from the ref (Arundell's first yellow card was really harsh and a similar Scottish penalty didn't result in a yellow). And England showed a disturbing inability to change the plan. Even with that they three times knocked on on the Scottish line and Ford should really have been better placed for the drop goal.
I don't buy the Matt Dawson narrative that they were 20 points better than England. On another day England could have won.
I'm also prepared to eat humble pie when Ireland click against us on Saturday... Some really generous odds out there folks. I've just grabbed Ireland at 5-1.
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
That's you openly wishing death on someone; indeed that's you openly wishing for a successfully murderous attack by IslamoNazis on a British citizen
Do you thank benefits the forum? Or your soul?
I openly wish death on truly evil people; Putin, Robinson, Jozef Fritzl.
What's he done to put him in that category?
Well, what he's been found guilty of is...
- assault occasioning actual bodily harm and assault with intent to resist arrest, 2004 - using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, and leading a group of football hooligans into a fight, 2010 - use of a false passport, 2012 - mortgage fraud, 2012 - contempt of court, 2017 - libel, 2018, and contempt of court again for repeating the libel, 2024 - stalking a journalist and her partner, 2021
He's no doubt a nasty piece of work. But I think he doesn't quite merit the same class as Putin who has unleashed a war killing hundreds of thousands (?) and all the other things.
I am conflicted about him. For his own ends he pushed a narrative about the thing that cannot be discussed that others feared to tread (and still do, and still wilfully ignore). He was right, to a large extent. But then stopped clocks etc. And his motives were never about protection of young girls and women, it was all about the anti-muslim sentiment.
Its in everyone's interests not to sabotage court cases, but it can often seem odd when there seems to be secrecy about certain trials and not others. Bad actors will then inflate their conspiracies.
He was a covenient way to block the revealing of The Thing We Can't Talk About. Probably delayed publication in the mainstream press by *years*.
The reason that some trials are held in varying level of secrecy, is nearly always agitation/threats of violence regarding witness or the matter in hand. So anti-muslim rabble rouser and promoter of violence is surprised that trials involving some muslims (for example) have to be held with reporting restrictions?
I was out convassing this weekend, and met a few stand-out constituents:
1) The 90-year old bloke who referred to Farage as "my mate", was convinced that the Lib Dems were in favour of unilateral disarmament and that Ed Davey was personally and fully responsible for the Horizon scandal. He then went on to give us a full list of the medications that he was on. Former Tory, now definite Reform.
2) The neighbour of the aforementioned gent, an English lady of South Asian heritage, who was scared of him and his family and felt extremely intimidated by the flag wavers. She very worried about her Muslim parents and had warned them not to venture into the flag festooned areas. She felt that the UK was rapidly going backwards with regard to tolerance and wished that she was in a position to emigrate to Canada or Australia. Voted Lib Dem last time, probably this time too.
3) The initally belligerant 50-something bloke who was fed up with both Labour and the Conservatives (no accountability!) and intended to vote Reform. After a bit of a chat, though, he calmed down and did seem to consider that the Lib Dems might also be a possible protest vote, and actually requested a leaflet from us. Former Tory, this time probable Reform but possibly Lib Dem.
As expected, most are utterly pissed off with Labour, especially because of the bin strike. Our main job seems to be to remind people that Reform are not the only protest vote and, indeed, already don't have a stellar track record themselves when it comes to running councils.
2 That would be the Australia where Pauline Hanson’s hardline anti immigration party is also surging in the polls?
One thing that's clear from talking to voters is just how little they know about UK politics, let alone the politics of other countries! The first chap was convinced that the Lib Dems intended to give up the nuclear deterrent and that Farage would sort Russia out.
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Rupert Lowe is an estimable and noble gent in many ways, as we all can surely agree (for once!), but one of the best things about him is that he shifts the Overton Windpw firmly to the right, Making Reform look what they are: a sensible centrist vote. For ethnocentrist dads
Thus he possibly benefits Farage
I had to look this up, but it seems estimable and inestimable are a rare example of the positive and negative meaning much the same thing. A bit like flammable and inflammable*. Inestimable is technically a bit more superlative than estimable though
*Actually inflammable isn't a negative of course, it just looks like one.
"could care less", "couldn't care less".
Don't get me started on "lucked out" which surely means "your luck was out", right?
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
That's you openly wishing death on someone; indeed that's you openly wishing for a successfully murderous attack by IslamoNazis on a British citizen
Do you thank benefits the forum? Or your soul?
I openly wish death on truly evil people; Putin, Robinson, Jozef Fritzl.
What's he done to put him in that category?
Well, what he's been found guilty of is...
- assault occasioning actual bodily harm and assault with intent to resist arrest, 2004 - using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, and leading a group of football hooligans into a fight, 2010 - use of a false passport, 2012 - mortgage fraud, 2012 - contempt of court, 2017 - libel, 2018, and contempt of court again for repeating the libel, 2024 - stalking a journalist and her partner, 2021
He's no doubt a nasty piece of work. But I think he doesn't quite merit the same class as Putin who has unleashed a war killing hundreds of thousands (?) and all the other things.
I am conflicted about him. For his own ends he pushed a narrative about the thing that cannot be discussed that others feared to tread (and still do, and still wilfully ignore). He was right, to a large extent. But then stopped clocks etc. And his motives were never about protection of young girls and women, it was all about the anti-muslim sentiment.
Its in everyone's interests not to sabotage court cases, but it can often seem odd when there seems to be secrecy about certain trials and not others. Bad actors will then inflate their conspiracies.
There are plenty of issues to be discussed but the media and 'influencers" have made it so toxic that it's difficult to see where the discussion will land. @Malmesbury can tell you about 'community leaders' and issues that can't be discussed.
Should we have the sort of freedom of speech that the US is pushing for, or do there have to be some limits.
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
That's you openly wishing death on someone; indeed that's you openly wishing for a successfully murderous attack by IslamoNazis on a British citizen
Do you thank benefits the forum? Or your soul?
I openly wish death on truly evil people; Putin, Robinson, Jozef Fritzl.
What's he done to put him in that category?
Well, what he's been found guilty of is...
- assault occasioning actual bodily harm and assault with intent to resist arrest, 2004 - using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, and leading a group of football hooligans into a fight, 2010 - use of a false passport, 2012 - mortgage fraud, 2012 - contempt of court, 2017 - libel, 2018, and contempt of court again for repeating the libel, 2024 - stalking a journalist and her partner, 2021
He's no doubt a nasty piece of work. But I think he doesn't quite merit the same class as Putin who has unleashed a war killing hundreds of thousands (?) and all the other things.
I am conflicted about him. For his own ends he pushed a narrative about the thing that cannot be discussed that others feared to tread (and still do, and still wilfully ignore). He was right, to a large extent. But then stopped clocks etc. And his motives were never about protection of young girls and women, it was all about the anti-muslim sentiment.
Its in everyone's interests not to sabotage court cases, but it can often seem odd when there seems to be secrecy about certain trials and not others. Bad actors will then inflate their conspiracies.
There are plenty of issues to be discussed but the media and 'influencers" have made it so toxic that it's difficult to see where the discussion will land. @Malmesbury can tell you about 'community leaders' and issues that can't be discussed.
Should we have the sort of freedom of speech that the US is pushing for, or do there have to be some limits.
I don't think the US can be accused of not setting limits on freedom of speech.
I was out convassing this weekend, and met a few stand-out constituents:
1) The 90-year old bloke who referred to Farage as "my mate", was convinced that the Lib Dems were in favour of unilateral disarmament and that Ed Davey was personally and fully responsible for the Horizon scandal. He then went on to give us a full list of the medications that he was on. Former Tory, now definite Reform.
2) The neighbour of the aforementioned gent, an English lady of South Asian heritage, who was scared of him and his family and felt extremely intimidated by the flag wavers. She very worried about her Muslim parents and had warned them not to venture into the flag festooned areas. She felt that the UK was rapidly going backwards with regard to tolerance and wished that she was in a position to emigrate to Canada or Australia. Voted Lib Dem last time, probably this time too.
3) The initally belligerant 50-something bloke who was fed up with both Labour and the Conservatives (no accountability!) and intended to vote Reform. After a bit of a chat, though, he calmed down and did seem to consider that the Lib Dems might also be a possible protest vote, and actually requested a leaflet from us. Former Tory, this time probable Reform but possibly Lib Dem.
As expected, most are utterly pissed off with Labour, especially because of the bin strike. Our main job seems to be to remind people that Reform are not the only protest vote and, indeed, already don't have a stellar track record themselves when it comes to running councils.
2 That would be the Australia where Pauline Hanson’s hardline anti immigration party is also surging in the polls?
You think that justifies this ladies fear and intimidation
What would Jesus say ?
No but it is a fact the populist anti immigration right is surging across the western world. Rightwing nationalist anti immigration parties lead polls here and France and half the polls in Germany and are in government in Italy and part of a coalition leading polls in Spain.
Trump and the GOP won in the US on a nationalist anti immigration agenda and in New Zealand the anti immigration New Zealand First are part of the coalition government. In Australia One Nation are second in many polls.
Even beyond the traditional west Japan has just re elected a rightwing nationalist PM and Modi leads a rightwing nationalist government in India. Putin is basically a nationalist too of course in Russia as is Netanyahu in Israel
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
That's you openly wishing death on someone; indeed that's you openly wishing for a successfully murderous attack by IslamoNazis on a British citizen
Do you thank benefits the forum? Or your soul?
I openly wish death on truly evil people; Putin, Robinson, Jozef Fritzl.
What's he done to put him in that category?
Well, what he's been found guilty of is...
- assault occasioning actual bodily harm and assault with intent to resist arrest, 2004 - using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, and leading a group of football hooligans into a fight, 2010 - use of a false passport, 2012 - mortgage fraud, 2012 - contempt of court, 2017 - libel, 2018, and contempt of court again for repeating the libel, 2024 - stalking a journalist and her partner, 2021
He's no doubt a nasty piece of work. But I think he doesn't quite merit the same class as Putin who has unleashed a war killing hundreds of thousands (?) and all the other things.
I am conflicted about him. For his own ends he pushed a narrative about the thing that cannot be discussed that others feared to tread (and still do, and still wilfully ignore). He was right, to a large extent. But then stopped clocks etc. And his motives were never about protection of young girls and women, it was all about the anti-muslim sentiment.
Its in everyone's interests not to sabotage court cases, but it can often seem odd when there seems to be secrecy about certain trials and not others. Bad actors will then inflate their conspiracies.
There are plenty of issues to be discussed but the media and 'influencers" have made it so toxic that it's difficult to see where the discussion will land. @Malmesbury can tell you about 'community leaders' and issues that can't be discussed.
Should we have the sort of freedom of speech that the US is pushing for, or do there have to be some limits.
The Freedom Of Speech where the Government is busy trying to arrest and dig into the files of reporters? No thank you.
In any case, the old saw about Shouting Fire In A Theatre applies - even in the most free speech friendly countries, there are limits. And very often these limits include reporting on certain ongoing court cases.
The hiding of court cases has been abused in the UK - the family courts stuff was a fascinating, slow motion scandal that went away. When MPs stood up in parliament and used privilege to reveal stuff.
But the cases that Tommy Lots of Names bangs on about aren't an abuse - see the evidence and sentences revealed after the trials have finished.
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
The world would be a better place if ISIS successfully attacked Tommy Robinson.
That's you openly wishing death on someone; indeed that's you openly wishing for a successfully murderous attack by IslamoNazis on a British citizen
Do you thank benefits the forum? Or your soul?
I openly wish death on truly evil people; Putin, Robinson, Jozef Fritzl.
What's he done to put him in that category?
Well, what he's been found guilty of is...
- assault occasioning actual bodily harm and assault with intent to resist arrest, 2004 - using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, and leading a group of football hooligans into a fight, 2010 - use of a false passport, 2012 - mortgage fraud, 2012 - contempt of court, 2017 - libel, 2018, and contempt of court again for repeating the libel, 2024 - stalking a journalist and her partner, 2021
He's no doubt a nasty piece of work. But I think he doesn't quite merit the same class as Putin who has unleashed a war killing hundreds of thousands (?) and all the other things.
I am conflicted about him. For his own ends he pushed a narrative about the thing that cannot be discussed that others feared to tread (and still do, and still wilfully ignore). He was right, to a large extent. But then stopped clocks etc. And his motives were never about protection of young girls and women, it was all about the anti-muslim sentiment.
Its in everyone's interests not to sabotage court cases, but it can often seem odd when there seems to be secrecy about certain trials and not others. Bad actors will then inflate their conspiracies.
He was a covenient way to block the revealing of The Thing We Can't Talk About. Probably delayed publication in the mainstream press by *years*.
The reason that some trials are held in varying level of secrecy, is nearly always agitation/threats of violence regarding witness or the matter in hand. So anti-muslim rabble rouser and promoter of violence is surprised that trials involving some muslims (for example) have to be held with reporting restrictions?
Robinson's first contempt of court conviction had nothing to do with special reporting restrictions. It was straight up standard stuff that applies to all trials. He had filmed inside Canterbury Crown Court and described the defendants as guilty while the jury was deliberating.
His second contempt of court conviction was for repeating a libel he had already been found guilty of.
I was out convassing this weekend, and met a few stand-out constituents:
1) The 90-year old bloke who referred to Farage as "my mate", was convinced that the Lib Dems were in favour of unilateral disarmament and that Ed Davey was personally and fully responsible for the Horizon scandal. He then went on to give us a full list of the medications that he was on. Former Tory, now definite Reform.
2) The neighbour of the aforementioned gent, an English lady of South Asian heritage, who was scared of him and his family and felt extremely intimidated by the flag wavers. She very worried about her Muslim parents and had warned them not to venture into the flag festooned areas. She felt that the UK was rapidly going backwards with regard to tolerance and wished that she was in a position to emigrate to Canada or Australia. Voted Lib Dem last time, probably this time too.
3) The initally belligerant 50-something bloke who was fed up with both Labour and the Conservatives (no accountability!) and intended to vote Reform. After a bit of a chat, though, he calmed down and did seem to consider that the Lib Dems might also be a possible protest vote, and actually requested a leaflet from us. Former Tory, this time probable Reform but possibly Lib Dem.
As expected, most are utterly pissed off with Labour, especially because of the bin strike. Our main job seems to be to remind people that Reform are not the only protest vote and, indeed, already don't have a stellar track record themselves when it comes to running councils.
2 That would be the Australia where Pauline Hanson’s hardline anti immigration party is also surging in the polls?
One thing that's clear from talking to voters is just how little they know about UK politics, let alone the politics of other countries! The first chap was convinced that the Lib Dems intended to give up the nuclear deterrent and that Farage would sort Russia out.
Thanks to social media and the way it feeds you a news feed to keep you (angry and remaining) there it’s incredibly hard to know what “news” people are actually seeing and reading
What I suspect is that for a lot of people the news they see is not actually news nor truthful
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Rupert Lowe is an estimable and noble gent in many ways, as we all can surely agree (for once!), but one of the best things about him is that he shifts the Overton Windpw firmly to the right, Making Reform look what they are: a sensible centrist vote. For ethnocentrist dads
Thus he possibly benefits Farage
I had to look this up, but it seems estimable and inestimable are a rare example of the positive and negative meaning much the same thing. A bit like flammable and inflammable*. Inestimable is technically a bit more superlative than estimable though
*Actually inflammable isn't a negative of course, it just looks like one.
"could care less", "couldn't care less".
Don't get me started on "lucked out" which surely means "your luck was out", right?
There's nothing wrong with that idiom. It's like "won out".
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Rupert Lowe is an estimable and noble gent in many ways, as we all can surely agree (for once!), but one of the best things about him is that he shifts the Overton Windpw firmly to the right, Making Reform look what they are: a sensible centrist vote. For ethnocentrist dads
Thus he possibly benefits Farage
I had to look this up, but it seems estimable and inestimable are a rare example of the positive and negative meaning much the same thing. A bit like flammable and inflammable*. Inestimable is technically a bit more superlative than estimable though
*Actually inflammable isn't a negative of course, it just looks like one.
"could care less", "couldn't care less".
Don't get me started on "lucked out" which surely means "your luck was out", right?
That's a transatlantic thing. Lucked out means you got good luck in the US, but means you ran out of good luck in the UK.
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Rupert Lowe is an estimable and noble gent in many ways, as we all can surely agree (for once!), but one of the best things about him is that he shifts the Overton Windpw firmly to the right, Making Reform look what they are: a sensible centrist vote. For ethnocentrist dads
Thus he possibly benefits Farage
I had to look this up, but it seems estimable and inestimable are a rare example of the positive and negative meaning much the same thing. A bit like flammable and inflammable*. Inestimable is technically a bit more superlative than estimable though
*Actually inflammable isn't a negative of course, it just looks like one.
"could care less", "couldn't care less".
Don't get me started on "lucked out" which surely means "your luck was out", right?
No, I think it's from verb phrases like "checked out" which don't carry a meaning of something running out
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Rupert Lowe is an estimable and noble gent in many ways, as we all can surely agree (for once!), but one of the best things about him is that he shifts the Overton Windpw firmly to the right, Making Reform look what they are: a sensible centrist vote. For ethnocentrist dads
Thus he possibly benefits Farage
I had to look this up, but it seems estimable and inestimable are a rare example of the positive and negative meaning much the same thing. A bit like flammable and inflammable*. Inestimable is technically a bit more superlative than estimable though
*Actually inflammable isn't a negative of course, it just looks like one.
"could care less", "couldn't care less".
Don't get me started on "lucked out" which surely means "your luck was out", right?
That's a transatlantic thing. Lucked out means you got good luck in the US, but means you ran out of good luck in the UK.
If you run out of good luck, your luck's out, not lucked out.
I was out convassing this weekend, and met a few stand-out constituents:
1) The 90-year old bloke who referred to Farage as "my mate", was convinced that the Lib Dems were in favour of unilateral disarmament and that Ed Davey was personally and fully responsible for the Horizon scandal. He then went on to give us a full list of the medications that he was on. Former Tory, now definite Reform.
2) The neighbour of the aforementioned gent, an English lady of South Asian heritage, who was scared of him and his family and felt extremely intimidated by the flag wavers. She very worried about her Muslim parents and had warned them not to venture into the flag festooned areas. She felt that the UK was rapidly going backwards with regard to tolerance and wished that she was in a position to emigrate to Canada or Australia. Voted Lib Dem last time, probably this time too.
3) The initally belligerant 50-something bloke who was fed up with both Labour and the Conservatives (no accountability!) and intended to vote Reform. After a bit of a chat, though, he calmed down and did seem to consider that the Lib Dems might also be a possible protest vote, and actually requested a leaflet from us. Former Tory, this time probable Reform but possibly Lib Dem.
As expected, most are utterly pissed off with Labour, especially because of the bin strike. Our main job seems to be to remind people that Reform are not the only protest vote and, indeed, already don't have a stellar track record themselves when it comes to running councils.
2 That would be the Australia where Pauline Hanson’s hardline anti immigration party is also surging in the polls?
You think that justifies this ladies fear and intimidation
What would Jesus say ?
No but it is a fact the populist anti immigration right is surging across the western world. Rightwing nationalist anti immigration parties lead polls here and France and half the polls in Germany and are in government in Italy and part of a coalition leading polls in Spain.
Trump and the GOP won in the US on a nationalist anti immigration agenda and in New Zealand the anti immigration New Zealand First are part of the coalition government. In Australia One Nation are second in many polls.
Even beyond the traditional west Japan has just re elected a rightwing nationalist PM and Modi leads a rightwing nationalist government in India. Putin is basically a nationalist too of course in Russia as is Netanyahu in Israel
The question is do you agree with them and more especially the Farage/Robinson/ Trump solution
The British public never consented to mass migration, but the political elites went ahead with it anyway.
That get says often, but it's not remotely true, is it? Net UK immigration hit six figures in 1998 under Tony Blair's government. The British public voted Blair back into office, twice. Net immigration then hit a new peak in 2014 under David Cameron. He was voted back into office at the next election. If the British public were unhappy about those immigration levels then, they didn't show it at the ballot box.
Immigration then shot up in 2021 under Boris Johnson. He departed No 10 and his successor (skipping over the brief May premiership) responded to public concern about immigration and acted to reduce the numbers. The Tories were voted out and the new Labour government have continued to bring immigration down sharply. So, the political elites have responded now.
The British public never consented to mass migration, but the political elites went ahead with it anyway.
That get says often, but it's not remotely true, is it? Net UK immigration hit six figures in 1998 under Tony Blair's government. The British public voted Blair back into office, twice. Net immigration then hit a new peak in 2014 under David Cameron. He was voted back into office at the next election. If the British public were unhappy about those immigration levels then, they didn't show it at the ballot box.
Immigration then shot up in 2021 under Boris Johnson. He departed No 10 and his successor (skipping over the brief May premiership) responded to public concern about immigration and acted to reduce the numbers. The Tories were voted out and the new Labour government have continued to bring immigration down sharply. So, the political elites have responded now.
I see this as very much a Tory-caused problem. I can understand the fact that Blair gets criticism for his policy, but I don’t think it was done in any way that contradicted any democratic mandate he had - I may be wrong.
The Tories repeatedly, incessantly, unequivocally continued to repeat their pledge that they’d reduce immigration to the tens of thousands, or at least significantly reduce it. That was the basis on which they sought and obtained their mandates, and they consistently failed on that pledge - in Boris’ case, egregiously so, without any great attempt to level with the public or speak frankly on the topic.
The apparently successful launch Rupert Spode's party is new news. He might not win many seats himself, but siphoning off a slice of Farage's vote hurts Reform a lot.
That Starmer probably won't be on the ballot next time shouldn't be news, but apparently is. On such confusions profits and losses are made.
Yes, I would guess that this is a(n over)reaction to Restore Britain launching. Lowe is, for inexplicable reasons, popular with the online brigade. (Maybe because Musk promotes him?) I don't think he has the rizz (as the kids say) to make much impact on the broader public, but if Tommy Robinson rows in behind him, maybe they can represent a serious threat to Reform's right flank.
Farage/Reform is the leading brand. Advance/Restore are unknown to the general public, outside a handful of constituencies.
Tommy is also a brand.
Although he's recently fled the country because, he says, he's been targetted by ISIS, and you can donate some money to help him protect his family. (I happened to be talking to an expert on ISIS at the weekend. They said, no, ISIS are definitely not targetting Tommy Robinson.)
Tommy Robinson is, in fact, being targeted by ISIS
"The Bedfordshire Police officer can be heard informing Robinson during the conversation: "So we have received intelligence that an Isis publication has stated... are encouraging others to commit violence against yourself."
"The constabulary, responsible for policing Robinson's native Luton, verified the telephone exchange was genuine and took place on Thursday, reports the Mirror.
"During the recording, Robinson enquired whether he might obtain a copy of the material, but was advised it is probably classified as proscribed content, which UK residents are prohibited from holding under counter- terrorism legislation. During the call, the officer proceeds to inform Robinson that he lacks authorisation to carry weapons or "take pre-emptive action" against others."
Dunno, maybe you, @bondegezou are the sort of ultra-brave type that would shrug off a call by ISIS for its followers to harm or kill you, but I somehow suspect you are not "the ultra-brave type", indeed I imagine you are the absolute opposite, a delta-gamma cuck who would scuttle away if you were slightly menaced by the Salvation Army
This is one of the few things I have in common with Yaxley-Lennon - though in my case it was some geriatric motor-fanatic putting stuff out on Facebook. I changed my commute for two days then forgot about it.
The British public never consented to mass migration, but the political elites went ahead with it anyway.
That get says often, but it's not remotely true, is it? Net UK immigration hit six figures in 1998 under Tony Blair's government. The British public voted Blair back into office, twice. Net immigration then hit a new peak in 2014 under David Cameron. He was voted back into office at the next election. If the British public were unhappy about those immigration levels then, they didn't show it at the ballot box.
Immigration then shot up in 2021 under Boris Johnson. He departed No 10 and his successor (skipping over the brief May premiership) responded to public concern about immigration and acted to reduce the numbers. The Tories were voted out and the new Labour government have continued to bring immigration down sharply. So, the political elites have responded now.
I see this as very much a Tory-caused problem. I can understand the fact that Blair gets criticism for his policy, but I don’t think it was done in any way that contradicted any democratic mandate he had - I may be wrong.
The Tories repeatedly, incessantly, unequivocally continued to repeat their pledge that they’d reduce immigration to the tens of thousands, or at least significantly reduce it. That was the basis on which they sought and obtained their mandates, and they consistently failed on that pledge - in Boris’ case, egregiously so, without any great attempt to level with the public or speak frankly on the topic.
Also "Stop the boats", which didn't work. At all. To any extent.
They increased the numbers from 2,000 to 46,000 and then made it their campaign slogan.
The British public never consented to mass migration, but the political elites went ahead with it anyway.
That get says often, but it's not remotely true, is it? Net UK immigration hit six figures in 1998 under Tony Blair's government. The British public voted Blair back into office, twice. Net immigration then hit a new peak in 2014 under David Cameron. He was voted back into office at the next election. If the British public were unhappy about those immigration levels then, they didn't show it at the ballot box.
Immigration then shot up in 2021 under Boris Johnson. He departed No 10 and his successor (skipping over the brief May premiership) responded to public concern about immigration and acted to reduce the numbers. The Tories were voted out and the new Labour government have continued to bring immigration down sharply. So, the political elites have responded now.
I see this as very much a Tory-caused problem. I can understand the fact that Blair gets criticism for his policy, but I don’t think it was done in any way that contradicted any democratic mandate he had - I may be wrong.
The Tories repeatedly, incessantly, unequivocally continued to repeat their pledge that they’d reduce immigration to the tens of thousands, or at least significantly reduce it. That was the basis on which they sought and obtained their mandates, and they consistently failed on that pledge - in Boris’ case, egregiously so, without any great attempt to level with the public or speak frankly on the topic.
The problem was the refusal by the traditional parties to recognise that if you want an increasing population, you need to actually spend money and do some things. Things that may be politically unpopular.
We are just seeing the political movement to Build, Build, Build getting underway, for example.
The British public never consented to mass migration, but the political elites went ahead with it anyway.
That get says often, but it's not remotely true, is it? Net UK immigration hit six figures in 1998 under Tony Blair's government. The British public voted Blair back into office, twice. Net immigration then hit a new peak in 2014 under David Cameron. He was voted back into office at the next election. If the British public were unhappy about those immigration levels then, they didn't show it at the ballot box.
Immigration then shot up in 2021 under Boris Johnson. He departed No 10 and his successor (skipping over the brief May premiership) responded to public concern about immigration and acted to reduce the numbers. The Tories were voted out and the new Labour government have continued to bring immigration down sharply. So, the political elites have responded now.
I see this as very much a Tory-caused problem. I can understand the fact that Blair gets criticism for his policy, but I don’t think it was done in any way that contradicted any democratic mandate he had - I may be wrong.
The Tories repeatedly, incessantly, unequivocally continued to repeat their pledge that they’d reduce immigration to the tens of thousands, or at least significantly reduce it. That was the basis on which they sought and obtained their mandates, and they consistently failed on that pledge - in Boris’ case, egregiously so, without any great attempt to level with the public or speak frankly on the topic.
The problem was the refusal by the traditional parties to recognise that if you want an increasing population, you need to actually spend money and do some things. Things that may be politically unpopular.
We are just seeing the political movement to Build, Build, Build getting underway, for example.
But not to build, build, build schools, hospitals, dentists, roads without potholes. It is just going to squeeze local services way more. The stuff that impacts on local services that is already pissing off the voters.
We don't have the money to upgrade these services. So voters are going to continue to get pissed off.
I thought it was reasonably well established that there were female Deacons in the early church - not teachers or Rabbis but still a senior pastoral (more significantly than today’s deacons)
Pliny tortured a pair of them.
With the enthusiastic later approval of Catherine Nixey, no doubt.
Her wiki bio includes the intriguing line
“Her mother was a nun and her father a monk [further explanation needed]”
Ya think?!
They had both resigned their orders before getting married.
I thought it was reasonably well established that there were female Deacons in the early church - not teachers or Rabbis but still a senior pastoral (more significantly than today’s deacons)
Pliny tortured a pair of them.
With the enthusiastic later approval of Catherine Nixey, no doubt.
Her wiki bio includes the intriguing line
“Her mother was a nun and her father a monk [further explanation needed]”
Ya think?!
They had both resigned their orders before getting married.
A significant explosion and subsequent secondary detonations occurred at the facility, situated approximately 70 km northeast of Moscow. This arsenal, spanning roughly 3.5 square kilometers (around 865 acres), was recognized as one of Russia's most substantial ammunition storage sites, with estimated capacities ranging from 100,000 to 264,000 tons, although actual stored quantities fluctuated. https://x.com/Osinteurope/status/2023229842980831495
A significant explosion and subsequent secondary detonations occurred at the facility, situated approximately 70 km northeast of Moscow. This arsenal, spanning roughly 3.5 square kilometers (around 865 acres), was recognized as one of Russia's most substantial ammunition storage sites, with estimated capacities ranging from 100,000 to 264,000 tons, although actual stored quantities fluctuated. https://x.com/Osinteurope/status/2023229842980831495
Actual storage quantity has presumably fluctuated downwards a bit now?
Government is struggling to make the numbers add up on increased defence spending.
I don't think increased defence spending is popular. ie I don't think people are willing to accept the increased taxes and/or reductions in other spending that make it possible.
The British public never consented to mass migration, but the political elites went ahead with it anyway.
That get says often, but it's not remotely true, is it? Net UK immigration hit six figures in 1998 under Tony Blair's government. The British public voted Blair back into office, twice. Net immigration then hit a new peak in 2014 under David Cameron. He was voted back into office at the next election. If the British public were unhappy about those immigration levels then, they didn't show it at the ballot box.
Immigration then shot up in 2021 under Boris Johnson. He departed No 10 and his successor (skipping over the brief May premiership) responded to public concern about immigration and acted to reduce the numbers. The Tories were voted out and the new Labour government have continued to bring immigration down sharply. So, the political elites have responded now.
I see this as very much a Tory-caused problem. I can understand the fact that Blair gets criticism for his policy, but I don’t think it was done in any way that contradicted any democratic mandate he had - I may be wrong.
The Tories repeatedly, incessantly, unequivocally continued to repeat their pledge that they’d reduce immigration to the tens of thousands, or at least significantly reduce it. That was the basis on which they sought and obtained their mandates, and they consistently failed on that pledge - in Boris’ case, egregiously so, without any great attempt to level with the public or speak frankly on the topic.
The problem was the refusal by the traditional parties to recognise that if you want an increasing population, you need to actually spend money and do some things. Things that may be politically unpopular.
We are just seeing the political movement to Build, Build, Build getting underway, for example.
But not to build, build, build schools, hospitals, dentists, roads without potholes. It is just going to squeeze local services way more. The stuff that impacts on local services that is already pissing off the voters.
We don't have the money to upgrade these services. So voters are going to continue to get pissed off.
Item - One real thing that leads NIMBYism is the squeeze on services.
Item - the Victorian and Edwardian approach was to turn a village into a suburb. The new roads were laid out, but critically, infrastructure went in first. So the locals got schools, doctors surgeries, railway stations etc, before the new houses were built.
The British public never consented to mass migration, but the political elites went ahead with it anyway.
That get says often, but it's not remotely true, is it? Net UK immigration hit six figures in 1998 under Tony Blair's government. The British public voted Blair back into office, twice. Net immigration then hit a new peak in 2014 under David Cameron. He was voted back into office at the next election. If the British public were unhappy about those immigration levels then, they didn't show it at the ballot box.
Immigration then shot up in 2021 under Boris Johnson. He departed No 10 and his successor (skipping over the brief May premiership) responded to public concern about immigration and acted to reduce the numbers. The Tories were voted out and the new Labour government have continued to bring immigration down sharply. So, the political elites have responded now.
I see this as very much a Tory-caused problem. I can understand the fact that Blair gets criticism for his policy, but I don’t think it was done in any way that contradicted any democratic mandate he had - I may be wrong.
The Tories repeatedly, incessantly, unequivocally continued to repeat their pledge that they’d reduce immigration to the tens of thousands, or at least significantly reduce it. That was the basis on which they sought and obtained their mandates, and they consistently failed on that pledge - in Boris’ case, egregiously so, without any great attempt to level with the public or speak frankly on the topic.
The problem was the refusal by the traditional parties to recognise that if you want an increasing population, you need to actually spend money and do some things. Things that may be politically unpopular.
We are just seeing the political movement to Build, Build, Build getting underway, for example.
But not to build, build, build schools, hospitals, dentists, roads without potholes. It is just going to squeeze local services way more. The stuff that impacts on local services that is already pissing off the voters.
We don't have the money to upgrade these services. So voters are going to continue to get pissed off.
Item - One real thing that leads NIMBYism is the squeeze on services.
Item - the Victorian and Edwardian approach was to turn a village into a suburb. The new roads were laid out, but critically, infrastructure went in first. So the locals got schools, doctors surgeries, railway stations etc, before the new houses were built.
Which is how Holland and most of Europe do it - local authority buys farmland at farmland (ish) price, adds in the infrastructure and sells the land with planning permission to the builder
It’s an area where multiple governments have completely and utterly dropped the ball
Government is struggling to make the numbers add up on increased defence spending.
I don't think increased defence spending is popular. ie I don't think people are willing to accept the increased taxes and/or reductions in other spending that make it possible.
The relatively easy relatively safe and acceptable way to create a fund specifically for defence on the Bond Markets.
Get ready for another almighty shitshow before the midterms.
The argument it's going to happened seems quite persuasive. The possible replacements range from worse than Alito to completely unhinged.
It Sure Looks Like This Supreme Court Justice Is Getting Ready to Retire https://archive.is/qQfVj#selection-775.0-775.72 ...At the same time, I can imagine that the White House might not want to reopen Bove’s scandals or give Democrats an opportunity to probe them. He’s already gotten his reward with a lifetime seat on the 3rd Circuit. So, to my mind, Oldham is the more likely candidate. He’s a former Alito clerk and a MAGA fanatic who has gone very far out of his way to campaign for this seat with a constant stream of Trump-pandering opinions. He’s even further right than Alito, who has overruled him multiple times. He also looks the part, which may seem like a shallow observation, but we know that that is important to this president. I think he has a leg up on his colleague James Ho, who has also been campaigning for the seat, because Ho will not look the part to this president. If I had to put money down, I’d say Oldham will be the pick, because he’s got the far-right jurisprudence and he looks like the MAGA justice from central casting in Donald Trump’s dreams. I think you’re aiming way too high in selecting actual sitting judges for this. I’m going to go with Lindsey Halligan and Jeanine Pirro. I know central casting is the most important phrase for Trump when selecting someone. But I also think the “Own the Libs” vibe is such that it could be Kash Patel. You seemed to suggest that gravitas at some level is important. And I’m not sure it’s going to be...
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- assault occasioning actual bodily harm and assault with intent to resist arrest, 2004
- using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, and leading a group of football hooligans into a fight, 2010
- use of a false passport, 2012
- mortgage fraud, 2012
- contempt of court, 2017
- libel, 2018, and contempt of court again for repeating the libel, 2024
- stalking a journalist and her partner, 2021
Zia Yusuf was talking about the 'patriotic duty' to do a deal with the Tories if it were required this weekend.
Yep. They are.
You wonder if one of them is batting for the captaincy.
What we want is ISIS and Tommy Robinson attacking each other *unsuccessfully*, over many, many years.
This would keep them from doing harm to anything valuable and provide valuable entertainment.
Sparkhill’s residents are angry bomb-plotter Shadid Butt is launching a council bid – and hope Sharon Osbourne can be an unlikely saviour"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/02/16/birmingham-council-sparkhill-shahid-butt/
And unless he is actually replaced by somebody competent, say Richard Dawson or Alfonso Thomas, I don't think it will make much difference as long as Key is still there and picking his mates.
Not sure how sure Rome is looking on March 7th either tbh.
Of course, UK democracy has often seen terrorists stand for office before, and several were elected.
But let's hope no-one gets murdered!
1) The 90-year old bloke who referred to Farage as "my mate", was convinced that the Lib Dems were in favour of unilateral disarmament and that Ed Davey was personally and fully responsible for the Horizon scandal. He then went on to give us a full list of the medications that he was on. Former Tory, now definite Reform.
2) The neighbour of the aforementioned gent, an English lady of South Asian heritage, who was scared of him and his family and felt extremely intimidated by the flag wavers. She very worried about her Muslim parents and had warned them not to venture into the flag festooned areas. She felt that the UK was rapidly going backwards with regard to tolerance and wished that she was in a position to emigrate to Canada or Australia. Voted Lib Dem last time, probably this time too.
3) The initally belligerant 50-something bloke who was fed up with both Labour and the Conservatives (no accountability!) and intended to vote Reform. After a bit of a chat, though, he calmed down and did seem to consider that the Lib Dems might also be a possible protest vote, and actually requested a leaflet from us. Former Tory, this time probable Reform but possibly Lib Dem.
As expected, most are utterly pissed off with Labour, especially because of the bin strike. Our main job seems to be to remind people that Reform are not the only protest vote and, indeed, already don't have a stellar track record themselves when it comes to running councils.
Melissa Hartman was assassinated at around the same time, of course.
I am conflicted about him. For his own ends he pushed a narrative about the thing that cannot be discussed that others feared to tread (and still do, and still wilfully ignore). He was right, to a large extent. But then stopped clocks etc. And his motives were never about protection of young girls and women, it was all about the anti-muslim sentiment.
Its in everyone's interests not to sabotage court cases, but it can often seem odd when there seems to be secrecy about certain trials and not others. Bad actors will then inflate their conspiracies.
The reason that some trials are held in varying level of secrecy, is nearly always agitation/threats of violence regarding witness or the matter in hand. So anti-muslim rabble rouser and promoter of violence is surprised that trials involving some muslims (for example) have to be held with reporting restrictions?
What would Jesus say ?
I don't buy the Matt Dawson narrative that they were 20 points better than England. On another day England could have won.
I'm also prepared to eat humble pie when Ireland click against us on Saturday... Some really generous odds out there folks. I've just grabbed Ireland at 5-1.
Should we have the sort of freedom of speech that the US is pushing for, or do there have to be some limits.
Trump and the GOP won in the US on a nationalist anti immigration agenda and in New Zealand the anti immigration New Zealand First are part of the coalition government. In Australia One Nation are second in many polls.
Even beyond the traditional west Japan has just re elected a rightwing nationalist PM and Modi leads a rightwing nationalist government in India. Putin is basically a nationalist too of course in Russia as is Netanyahu in Israel
In any case, the old saw about Shouting Fire In A Theatre applies - even in the most free speech friendly countries, there are limits. And very often these limits include reporting on certain ongoing court cases.
The hiding of court cases has been abused in the UK - the family courts stuff was a fascinating, slow motion scandal that went away. When MPs stood up in parliament and used privilege to reveal stuff.
But the cases that Tommy Lots of Names bangs on about aren't an abuse - see the evidence and sentences revealed after the trials have finished.
His second contempt of court conviction was for repeating a libel he had already been found guilty of.
That's gettable for Italy even without Madsen. England will have to bowl much better than they have up to now to win.
What I suspect is that for a lot of people the news they see is not actually news nor truthful
Immigration then shot up in 2021 under Boris Johnson. He departed No 10 and his successor (skipping over the brief May premiership) responded to public concern about immigration and acted to reduce the numbers. The Tories were voted out and the new Labour government have continued to bring immigration down sharply. So, the political elites have responded now.
Very straightforward England win from here. Guaranteed. 100%
Penne them in
The Tories repeatedly, incessantly, unequivocally continued to repeat their pledge that they’d reduce immigration to the tens of thousands, or at least significantly reduce it. That was the basis on which they sought and obtained their mandates, and they consistently failed on that pledge - in Boris’ case, egregiously so, without any great attempt to level with the public or speak frankly on the topic.
They increased the numbers from 2,000 to 46,000 and then made it their campaign slogan.
Who do I complain to about this weather?
It's probably knocking a good 5% off the Labour polling.
We are just seeing the political movement to Build, Build, Build getting underway, for example.
We don't have the money to upgrade these services. So voters are going to continue to get pissed off.
https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/32938
Though it only managed to garner twelve signatures.
A cabinet office minister being investigated by the cabinet office ?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/feb/16/cabinet-office-looking-into-labour-together-report-claims-says-minister?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
https://x.com/Osinteurope/status/2023229842980831495
I don't think increased defence spending is popular. ie I don't think people are willing to accept the increased taxes and/or reductions in other spending that make it possible.
Archer's first over apart, they haven't.
Item - the Victorian and Edwardian approach was to turn a village into a suburb. The new roads were laid out, but critically, infrastructure went in first. So the locals got schools, doctors surgeries, railway stations etc, before the new houses were built.
It’s an area where multiple governments have completely and utterly dropped the ball
Set aside from fiscal headroom and constraints.
The executive producer of hit TV spy thriller Tehran has been found dead in an Athens hotel, police have said.
The cause of death has not been confirmed but police said it was being treated as suicide based on evidence and testimonies.
The argument it's going to happened seems quite persuasive.
The possible replacements range from worse than Alito to completely unhinged.
It Sure Looks Like This Supreme Court Justice Is Getting Ready to Retire
https://archive.is/qQfVj#selection-775.0-775.72
...At the same time, I can imagine that the White House might not want to reopen Bove’s scandals or give Democrats an opportunity to probe them. He’s already gotten his reward with a lifetime seat on the 3rd Circuit. So, to my mind, Oldham is the more likely candidate. He’s a former Alito clerk and a MAGA fanatic who has gone very far out of his way to campaign for this seat with a constant stream of Trump-pandering opinions. He’s even further right than Alito, who has overruled him multiple times. He also looks the part, which may seem like a shallow observation, but we know that that is important to this president. I think he has a leg up on his colleague James Ho, who has also been campaigning for the seat, because Ho will not look the part to this president. If I had to put money down, I’d say Oldham will be the pick, because he’s got the far-right jurisprudence and he looks like the MAGA justice from central casting in Donald Trump’s dreams.
I think you’re aiming way too high in selecting actual sitting judges for this. I’m going to go with Lindsey Halligan and Jeanine Pirro. I know central casting is the most important phrase for Trump when selecting someone. But I also think the “Own the Libs” vibe is such that it could be Kash Patel. You seemed to suggest that gravitas at some level is important. And I’m not sure it’s going to be...