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  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 68,924

    Mark Carney delivering a very good speech in Davos declaring we are in the midst of a rupture, not a crisis

    Multilateral institutions are are risk

    We will be principled and pragmatic

    We will engage strategically and are recalibrating our relationship to maximise our values

    We stand with Greenland and Denmark and strongly oppose tariffs over Greenland and calls for focused talks

    He is championing efforts to build a bridge between the trans pacific partnership and the EU to create a trading block of 1.5 billion people
    ...............

    The comparision with Starmer is stark and why is he not speaking like this.

    A trans pacific - EU partnersip has to be welcomed by everyone as it solves the problem of UK - EU membership and excludes the madman in the White House

    Carney is a really great guy. All power to him.
    I wasn't impressed previously, but his speech was outstanding and Canada is fortunate to have him at this time

    I wish we had a comparable PM
    Starmer may not be great, but I can't imagine any of the last 3 PMs doing a better job.
    Sunak would have been ok
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 68,924
    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    algarkirk said:

    Letby not to face further murder charges. Apols if this has been noted already

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yxdgl21nko

    Good, she is serving a whole life order anyway, a complete waste of CPS taxpayer money to charge her anymore
    That is simply nonsense

    Had the evidence indicated further murders than of course she should have faced justice, not least for the bereaved families
    There is no sentence longer than a whole life order which she has already received. She has already faced justice and every penny the CPS would have to pay on another prosecution of her would be a penny not spent on prosecuting a criminal who has not yet faced justice.

    That is assuming Letby is still definitely guilty, of which even a few medical experts have raised doubts
    You cannot deny justice to bereaved families, and dismissing them as no point is simply unacceptable no matter how much you prevaricate [ which is of course your modus operandi]
    What's justice in this context? They won't be particularly happy if she were found not guilty. I've gone 180 degrees on my view of her guilt and I suspect that a retrial would have cast doubt on previous convictions.
    If the CPS has evidence that could convict a murder than it should be pursued

    Whether the defendant has been convicted for other murders and is serving a life sentence has no bearing in the need to seek justice
    That doesn't address my previous point. You keep saying this phrase "seek justice" and I am not entirely sure you know what it means. I think what you mean is "find her guilty" when that might not be what happens. We spend hundred of thousands on a "not guilty" verdict then the bereaved families would be in a worse position.
    No it doesnt

    I am speaking more generally that because someone is serving a life sentence for murder that they should not receive an amnesty on other crimes they may have committed

    It is not specific to Letby
    Why not?
    Not sure what you mean

    It applies to everyone
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 13,183

    Mark Carney delivering a very good speech in Davos declaring we are in the midst of a rupture, not a crisis

    Multilateral institutions are are risk

    We will be principled and pragmatic

    We will engage strategically and are recalibrating our relationship to maximise our values

    We stand with Greenland and Denmark and strongly oppose tariffs over Greenland and calls for focused talks

    He is championing efforts to build a bridge between the trans pacific partnership and the EU to create a trading block of 1.5 billion people
    ...............

    The comparision with Starmer is stark and why is he not speaking like this.

    A trans pacific - EU partnersip has to be welcomed by everyone as it solves the problem of UK - EU membership and excludes the madman in the White House

    Carney is a really great guy. All power to him.
    I wasn't impressed previously, but his speech was outstanding and Canada is fortunate to have him at this time

    I wish we had a comparable PM
    Starmer may not be great, but I can't imagine any of the last 3 PMs doing a better job.
    Sunak and he would have been more or less on the same page, but the previous two make it difficult to sneer too much at Americans voting for Trump.
    Who voted for Truss?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 21,821

    Roger said:

    Just listening to BBC and in passing they said the rude tweet to Starmer was nothing compared to the extremely insulting retweet of Macron's exchange with him.

    Anyone know what they are talking about? I've not been keeping up (who could?)

    I think it might be Trump has been rude to Starmer but much more so to Macron who he really dislikes along with the EU
    I think that's what it was but apparently what Trump said to Macron was very specific and they referred to it as "not how you ever talk to another head of state and certainly not publically".

    .....But they didnt say what it was
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 68,924
    DougSeal said:

    Mark Carney delivering a very good speech in Davos declaring we are in the midst of a rupture, not a crisis

    Multilateral institutions are are risk

    We will be principled and pragmatic

    We will engage strategically and are recalibrating our relationship to maximise our values

    We stand with Greenland and Denmark and strongly oppose tariffs over Greenland and calls for focused talks

    He is championing efforts to build a bridge between the trans pacific partnership and the EU to create a trading block of 1.5 billion people
    ...............

    The comparision with Starmer is stark and why is he not speaking like this.

    A trans pacific - EU partnersip has to be welcomed by everyone as it solves the problem of UK - EU membership and excludes the madman in the White House

    Carney is a really great guy. All power to him.
    I wasn't impressed previously, but his speech was outstanding and Canada is fortunate to have him at this time

    I wish we had a comparable PM
    Starmer may not be great, but I can't imagine any of the last 3 PMs doing a better job.
    Sunak and he would have been more or less on the same page, but the previous two make it difficult to sneer too much at Americans voting for Trump.
    Who voted for Truss?
    I didnt
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,806
    Taz said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump is having a (nother) meltdown

    What about this time ?

    Fucking idiot (him, not you obvs !!)
    Seems like somebody showed him some polling numbers

    ICE

    NATO
    Wait til he sees the bond markets !
    https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3mcunjrlsn22d
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 68,924
    Roger said:

    Roger said:

    Just listening to BBC and in passing they said the rude tweet to Starmer was nothing compared to the extremely insulting retweet of Macron's exchange with him.

    Anyone know what they are talking about? I've not been keeping up (who could?)

    I think it might be Trump has been rude to Starmer but much more so to Macron who he really dislikes along with the EU
    I think that's what it was but apparently what Trump said to Macron was very specific and they referred to it as "not how you ever talk to another head of state and certainly not publically".

    .....But they didnt say what it was
    I think we know it would have been very rude and insulting

    Trump is a real and ever danger to the world order
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 85,538
    And firearm possession.

    President Trump has granted clemency to the son of Congressman Steve Womack, who was sentenced to 8 years in prison for distributing meth.
    https://x.com/AFpost/status/2013378644698431945
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,305

    Mark Carney delivering a very good speech in Davos declaring we are in the midst of a rupture, not a crisis

    Multilateral institutions are are risk

    We will be principled and pragmatic

    We will engage strategically and are recalibrating our relationship to maximise our values

    We stand with Greenland and Denmark and strongly oppose tariffs over Greenland and calls for focused talks

    He is championing efforts to build a bridge between the trans pacific partnership and the EU to create a trading block of 1.5 billion people
    ...............

    The comparision with Starmer is stark and why is he not speaking like this.

    A trans pacific - EU partnersip has to be welcomed by everyone as it solves the problem of UK - EU membership and excludes the madman in the White House

    Carney is a really great guy. All power to him.
    I wasn't impressed previously, but his speech was outstanding and Canada is fortunate to have him at this time

    I wish we had a comparable PM
    Starmer may not be great, but I can't imagine any of the last 3 PMs doing a better job.
    More importantly, it's hard to imagine Badenoch, Davey, Polanski or Farage doing a better job.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 13,183

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    algarkirk said:

    Letby not to face further murder charges. Apols if this has been noted already

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yxdgl21nko

    Good, she is serving a whole life order anyway, a complete waste of CPS taxpayer money to charge her anymore
    That is simply nonsense

    Had the evidence indicated further murders than of course she should have faced justice, not least for the bereaved families
    There is no sentence longer than a whole life order which she has already received. She has already faced justice and every penny the CPS would have to pay on another prosecution of her would be a penny not spent on prosecuting a criminal who has not yet faced justice.

    That is assuming Letby is still definitely guilty, of which even a few medical experts have raised doubts
    You cannot deny justice to bereaved families, and dismissing them as no point is simply unacceptable no matter how much you prevaricate [ which is of course your modus operandi]
    What's justice in this context? They won't be particularly happy if she were found not guilty. I've gone 180 degrees on my view of her guilt and I suspect that a retrial would have cast doubt on previous convictions.
    If the CPS has evidence that could convict a murder than it should be pursued

    Whether the defendant has been convicted for other murders and is serving a life sentence has no bearing in the need to seek justice
    That doesn't address my previous point. You keep saying this phrase "seek justice" and I am not entirely sure you know what it means. I think what you mean is "find her guilty" when that might not be what happens. We spend hundred of thousands on a "not guilty" verdict then the bereaved families would be in a worse position.
    No it doesnt

    I am speaking more generally that because someone is serving a life sentence for murder that they should not receive an amnesty on other crimes they may have committed

    It is not specific to Letby
    Why not?
    Not sure what you mean

    It applies to everyone
    You said "that because someone is serving a life sentence for murder that they should not receive an amnesty on other crimes they may have committed" and I asked "why not?" I don't follow your logic. Who is getting an "amnesty" and what sort of justice is being served?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 133,122
    edited 5:14PM

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    algarkirk said:

    Letby not to face further murder charges. Apols if this has been noted already

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yxdgl21nko

    They
    Good, she is serving a whole life order anyway, a complete waste of CPS taxpayer money to charge her anymore
    That is simply nonsense

    Had the evidence indicated further murders than of course she should have faced justice, not least for the bereaved families
    There is no sentence longer than a whole life order which she has already received. She has already faced justice and every penny the CPS would have to pay on another prosecution of her would be a penny not spent on prosecuting a criminal who has not yet faced justice.

    That is assuming Letby is still definitely guilty, of which even a few medical experts have raised doubts
    You cannot deny justice to bereaved families, and dismissing them as no point is simply unacceptable no matter how much you prevaricate [ which is of course your modus operandi]
    They HAVE NOT been denied justice, what the hell do you think a WHOLE LIFE ORDER is!!!!!!!

    A complete waste of taxpayers money to spend any more prosecuting someone serving a whole life order. If they want to apply to the criminal cases compensation scheme they can, that is it
    You are 'shouting' in a vein bid to justify your ridiculous stance



    It is not ridiculous, it is sane.

    It is an utter waste of taxpayers money to prosecute someone already serving a WLO who will never be released (unless their conviction is overturned) and which will come at the cost of further delays to prosecutions and charges of criminals not yet convicted and sentenced
    If it was our child that had been murdered and the CPS said sorry but there is no point in seeking justice for you as the person is already serving a whole life term and it would be a waste of money, just how on earth do you think that would make me and our family feel
    Well personally I would accept it and move on, after all that person is never going to leave jail except in a coffin or urn anyway
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,719
    Roger said:

    Roger said:

    Just listening to BBC and in passing they said the rude tweet to Starmer was nothing compared to the extremely insulting retweet of Macron's exchange with him.

    Anyone know what they are talking about? I've not been keeping up (who could?)

    I think it might be Trump has been rude to Starmer but much more so to Macron who he really dislikes along with the EU
    I think that's what it was but apparently what Trump said to Macron was very specific and they referred to it as "not how you ever talk to another head of state and certainly not publically".

    .....But they didnt say what it was
    Leaked edited version of a private conversation.

    Maybe macron should sue. Trump would be straight on phone to his lawyer {she would be naked in a jacuzzi, but still take the Face Time call}
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,069
    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    algarkirk said:

    Letby not to face further murder charges. Apols if this has been noted already

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yxdgl21nko

    Good, she is serving a whole life order anyway, a complete waste of CPS taxpayer money to charge her anymore
    That is simply nonsense

    Had the evidence indicated further murders than of course she should have faced justice, not least for the bereaved families
    There is no sentence longer than a whole life order which she has already received. She has already faced justice and every penny the CPS would have to pay on another prosecution of her would be a penny not spent on prosecuting a criminal who has not yet faced justice.

    That is assuming Letby is still definitely guilty, of which even a few medical experts have raised doubts
    You cannot deny justice to bereaved families, and dismissing them as no point is simply unacceptable no matter how much you prevaricate [ which is of course your modus operandi]
    What's justice in this context? They won't be particularly happy if she were found not guilty. I've gone 180 degrees on my view of her guilt and I suspect that a retrial would have cast doubt on previous convictions.
    To me at least, Justice is a multi-functional thing.

    There is publicly trying to set out what happened, there is punishment, there is deterrence and a host of other things.

    It’s not about making people happy - it’s about getting as close as we can to facts.

    At least to me.
    I agree with you. We've gone from a position where victims were routinely ignored or worse (e.g. Hillsborough) to the opposite extreme where victims' views are all that matter (e.g. the ridiculous "Martyn's Law" mandating village halls to have an anti-terror plan).
    No victim of the Manchester attack would have conceived of insisting that village halls having an anti-terror plan, I suspect.

    That kind of gold plating is classic Process State. If *everyone* fills out a 500 page plan, then the terrorists can’t attack!
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,806
    @justinwolfers.bsky.social‬

    Some perspective: The S&P opened down -1.3% on Trump's Greenland saber-rattling. That's $750 billion of wealth destroyed -- roughly equal to estimates of the value of Greenland.

    And so ~in dollar terms~ his shenanigans have already cost the US one Greenland, and we've got nothing to show for it.

    https://bsky.app/profile/justinwolfers.bsky.social/post/3mcufmrhd2j26
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 15,210

    Mark Carney delivering a very good speech in Davos declaring we are in the midst of a rupture, not a crisis

    Multilateral institutions are are risk

    We will be principled and pragmatic

    We will engage strategically and are recalibrating our relationship to maximise our values

    We stand with Greenland and Denmark and strongly oppose tariffs over Greenland and calls for focused talks

    He is championing efforts to build a bridge between the trans pacific partnership and the EU to create a trading block of 1.5 billion people
    ...............

    The comparision with Starmer is stark and why is he not speaking like this.

    A trans pacific - EU partnersip has to be welcomed by everyone as it solves the problem of UK - EU membership and excludes the madman in the White House

    Carney is a really great guy. All power to him.
    I wasn't impressed previously, but his speech was outstanding and Canada is fortunate to have him at this time

    I wish we had a comparable PM
    Starmer may not be great, but I can't imagine any of the last 3 PMs doing a better job.
    More importantly, it's hard to imagine Badenoch, Davey, Polanski or Farage doing a better job.
    Yes, but all for different reasons - Badenoch because of inexperience, Davey because he lacks gravitas, Polanski because he's a twerp and Farage because he's a tnuc.
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 5,109
    edited 5:26PM
    Sean_F said:

    I think that the USA is reaching the point where it requires a Ceauscescu Moment. The President is both a rabid dog, and a traitor.

    Agreed. The time for pussyfooting around his apologists and appeasers has passed.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,470

    Mark Carney delivering a very good speech in Davos declaring we are in the midst of a rupture, not a crisis

    Multilateral institutions are are risk

    We will be principled and pragmatic

    We will engage strategically and are recalibrating our relationship to maximise our values

    We stand with Greenland and Denmark and strongly oppose tariffs over Greenland and calls for focused talks

    He is championing efforts to build a bridge between the trans pacific partnership and the EU to create a trading block of 1.5 billion people
    ...............

    The comparision with Starmer is stark and why is he not speaking like this.

    A trans pacific - EU partnersip has to be welcomed by everyone as it solves the problem of UK - EU membership and excludes the madman in the White House

    Carney is a really great guy. All power to him.
    I wasn't impressed previously, but his speech was outstanding and Canada is fortunate to have him at this time

    I wish we had a comparable PM
    Starmer may not be great, but I can't imagine any of the last 3 PMs doing a better job.
    More importantly, it's hard to imagine Badenoch, Davey, Polanski or Farage doing a better job.
    Yes, but all for different reasons - Badenoch because of inexperience, Davey because he lacks gravitas, Polanski because he's a twerp and Farage because he's a tnuc.
    Davey really, really needs a tough (seeming, anyway) Deputy. I get the impression there are some able, well-informed LibDem MP's but they're just not cutting through. Or being the given the chance to cut through.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,180

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    #COMPETITION

    Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House? 30

    Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate? 4

    Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election? 62

    Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election? 24

    UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage? (British Polling Council registered pollsters only). Reform 16%

    Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC? 20%

    Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026? 9

    The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026? Starmer

    Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026? No

    UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025). £153billion

    UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025). 0.1%

    Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup. Argentina

    You have the Senate being retaken? That's a strong bet.

    I think the Dems win North Carolina and Maine.

    Then it gets much harder. You are basically betting on two of:

    Iowa, Ohio, Alaska and Texas.

    That's a really tough ask. Not impossible, but tough.

    Sherrod could win in Ohio (and he did in 2018). Ken Paxton could be the Democratic dream opponent in Texas. And Pelota could win in Alaska (and came within a whisker last time in the House). And Iowa is winnable on a *really* good day for the Dems.

    My guess is that Ohio stays Republican, although Sherrod Brown will get within 5 or 6 points.

    I think Texas will be a closer race, but that the Republicans will hold it by the slimmest of margins.

    Iowa - the Dems will pickup at least one Congressional District - but not the Senate seat.

    Of the four tough ones, Alaska is probably the best bet. Dan Sullivan, the incumbent Republican only has favorables of 38% - that's pretty poor. There's also ranked choice voting. And Mary Pelota only just lost the (sole) House District in a year when Trump won Alaska by 13%. Given it's the midterms and differential turnout will not favour the Republicans, that's probably a decent bet for a Democratic pickup.

    So... I'm going with +3.
    I went with +1 for the Dems in the Senate on the basis that they've looked good to win NC in previous years, and somehow it keeps eluding them, while Collins seems to have a special relationship with Maine voters. I also don't think it's impossible that the Dems really feck up and lose MI. So there are lots of ways to +1 - hold MI and win one of ME or NC, or lose MI and win both NC and ME are the more obvious ones.
    What does senators crossing the floor do to the PB competition? Does it count as Democrat up, even though they didn’t win seat election?
    I would take it as only those seats being contested in the 2026 midterms. If they crosss and get re-elected, counts. If they cross but not up for election doesn't count. Only those being voted on in November would be my twopenneth.

    Bloody rare for floor-crossing in the Senate anyway.

    Only one full floor crossing in the Senate (as opposed to caucus quitting) this century - Arlen Specter in 2009 (although I think Jim Jeffords sort of made an unofficial switch).

    Before that 1995, 1994 and then Strom Thurmond in 1964.
    But we are facing a sort of unique time in US politics where you could most expect one?
    No.

    In fact given the hyperpartisanship and the threats to anyone who dares to stand up to Mushroom Shaped, I'd say it's less likely, not more.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 21,821

    Mark Carney delivering a very good speech in Davos declaring we are in the midst of a rupture, not a crisis

    Multilateral institutions are are risk

    We will be principled and pragmatic

    We will engage strategically and are recalibrating our relationship to maximise our values

    We stand with Greenland and Denmark and strongly oppose tariffs over Greenland and calls for focused talks

    He is championing efforts to build a bridge between the trans pacific partnership and the EU to create a trading block of 1.5 billion people
    ...............

    The comparision with Starmer is stark and why is he not speaking like this.

    A trans pacific - EU partnersip has to be welcomed by everyone as it solves the problem of UK - EU membership and excludes the madman in the White House

    Carney is a really great guy. All power to him.
    I wasn't impressed previously, but his speech was outstanding and Canada is fortunate to have him at this time

    I wish we had a comparable PM
    Starmer may not be great, but I can't imagine any of the last 3 PMs doing a better job.
    More importantly, it's hard to imagine Badenoch, Davey, Polanski or Farage doing a better job.
    He could take a leaf out of Macron's book. i've just been reading up on what they are doing and it makes Starmer's pusillanimity feel very much the wrong thing to do. Certainly politically. I'm sure his popularity would improve considerably if he would follow Macron's lead. It's wonderful seeing an eloquent European saying it as it is.

    Vive La France!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,403
    CatMan said:

    It seems as if the exact moment of 3i/Atlas being precisely aliigned between the Sun and the earth will be on Thursday at 1om, a bit like a cometsry eclipse.

    Don't worry, the chances of anything coming from 3i/Atlas are a million to one...
    :lol:


  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,180
    Taz said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Taz said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Trump is having a (nother) meltdown

    What about this time ?

    Fucking idiot (him, not you obvs !!)
    Seems like somebody showed him some polling numbers

    ICE

    NATO
    Wait til he sees the bond markets !
    Fecking MI6 at it again with their interference.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,719
    Scott_xP said:

    @justinwolfers.bsky.social‬

    Some perspective: The S&P opened down -1.3% on Trump's Greenland saber-rattling. That's $750 billion of wealth destroyed -- roughly equal to estimates of the value of Greenland.

    And so ~in dollar terms~ his shenanigans have already cost the US one Greenland, and we've got nothing to show for it.

    https://bsky.app/profile/justinwolfers.bsky.social/post/3mcufmrhd2j26

    Just to note instability ain’t great except to those successfully betting on it, but “ $750 billion of wealth destroyed” really? markets can go up and down on hourly basis, so best stick to long term trends.

    What is more newsworthy is this whiff in the air there’s a coalition of the willing to stop lending US money. Powerful though US are, they need buyers of their debt.

    It will need more than silly tweets, where Trump could flop round again on rhetoric tomorrow, or even Supreme Court and Congress can intervene on tariffs, for markets to show a long term trend against US, but something substantial to the idea coalition of the willing won’t lend US money, could create such a slide? But then those refusing to buy in US debt, would get burned by market slide too, wouldn’t they?
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,719

    Mark Carney delivering a very good speech in Davos declaring we are in the midst of a rupture, not a crisis

    Multilateral institutions are are risk

    We will be principled and pragmatic

    We will engage strategically and are recalibrating our relationship to maximise our values

    We stand with Greenland and Denmark and strongly oppose tariffs over Greenland and calls for focused talks

    He is championing efforts to build a bridge between the trans pacific partnership and the EU to create a trading block of 1.5 billion people
    ...............

    The comparision with Starmer is stark and why is he not speaking like this.

    A trans pacific - EU partnersip has to be welcomed by everyone as it solves the problem of UK - EU membership and excludes the madman in the White House

    Carney is a really great guy. All power to him.
    I wasn't impressed previously, but his speech was outstanding and Canada is fortunate to have him at this time

    I wish we had a comparable PM
    Starmer may not be great, but I can't imagine any of the last 3 PMs doing a better job.
    More importantly, it's hard to imagine Badenoch, Davey, Polanski or Farage doing a better job.
    Yes, but all for different reasons - Badenoch because of inexperience, Davey because he lacks gravitas, Polanski because he's a twerp and Farage because he's a tnuc.
    But Trump would not be acting like this, if we had a Prime Minister Kemi Badenoch - she told us herself.

    Which Kemi fans still haven’t explained.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,806
    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,036

    Mark Carney delivering a very good speech in Davos declaring we are in the midst of a rupture, not a crisis

    Multilateral institutions are are risk

    We will be principled and pragmatic

    We will engage strategically and are recalibrating our relationship to maximise our values

    We stand with Greenland and Denmark and strongly oppose tariffs over Greenland and calls for focused talks

    He is championing efforts to build a bridge between the trans pacific partnership and the EU to create a trading block of 1.5 billion people
    ...............

    The comparision with Starmer is stark and why is he not speaking like this.

    A trans pacific - EU partnersip has to be welcomed by everyone as it solves the problem of UK - EU membership and excludes the madman in the White House

    Carney is a really great guy. All power to him.
    I wasn't impressed previously, but his speech was outstanding and Canada is fortunate to have him at this time

    I wish we had a comparable PM
    Starmer may not be great, but I can't imagine any of the last 3 PMs doing a better job.
    Sunak and he would have been more or less on the same page, but the previous two make it difficult to sneer too much at Americans voting for Trump.
    The British public didn't vote for Truss to be PM, and Conservative MPs corrected the error in less than two months.

    I think the comparison is to the advantage of a Parliamentary system, over a Presidential one.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,719
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    #COMPETITION

    Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the House? 30

    Number of net gains (or losses -ve) for the Dems in the Senate? 4

    Number of MSPs won by the SNP at the Holyrood election? 62

    Number of AMs won by Plaid Cymru at the Senedd election? 24

    UK Party recording the largest poll lead during 2026 and by what percentage? (British Polling Council registered pollsters only). Reform 16%

    Labour’s Projected National Share of the vote based on the 2026 local elections according to the BBC? 20%

    Number of Reform MPs on the 31st December 2026? 9

    The name of the UK Prime Minister on 31st December 2026? Starmer

    Will Andy Burnham will be an MP on 31st December 2026? No

    UK borrowing in the financial year to November 2026 (£132.3bn to November 2025). £153billion

    UK GDP growth in the 12 months to October 2026 (1.1% to October 2025). 0.1%

    Winners of the 2026 FIFA Men’s World Cup. Argentina

    You have the Senate being retaken? That's a strong bet.

    I think the Dems win North Carolina and Maine.

    Then it gets much harder. You are basically betting on two of:

    Iowa, Ohio, Alaska and Texas.

    That's a really tough ask. Not impossible, but tough.

    Sherrod could win in Ohio (and he did in 2018). Ken Paxton could be the Democratic dream opponent in Texas. And Pelota could win in Alaska (and came within a whisker last time in the House). And Iowa is winnable on a *really* good day for the Dems.

    My guess is that Ohio stays Republican, although Sherrod Brown will get within 5 or 6 points.

    I think Texas will be a closer race, but that the Republicans will hold it by the slimmest of margins.

    Iowa - the Dems will pickup at least one Congressional District - but not the Senate seat.

    Of the four tough ones, Alaska is probably the best bet. Dan Sullivan, the incumbent Republican only has favorables of 38% - that's pretty poor. There's also ranked choice voting. And Mary Pelota only just lost the (sole) House District in a year when Trump won Alaska by 13%. Given it's the midterms and differential turnout will not favour the Republicans, that's probably a decent bet for a Democratic pickup.

    So... I'm going with +3.
    I went with +1 for the Dems in the Senate on the basis that they've looked good to win NC in previous years, and somehow it keeps eluding them, while Collins seems to have a special relationship with Maine voters. I also don't think it's impossible that the Dems really feck up and lose MI. So there are lots of ways to +1 - hold MI and win one of ME or NC, or lose MI and win both NC and ME are the more obvious ones.
    What does senators crossing the floor do to the PB competition? Does it count as Democrat up, even though they didn’t win seat election?
    I would take it as only those seats being contested in the 2026 midterms. If they crosss and get re-elected, counts. If they cross but not up for election doesn't count. Only those being voted on in November would be my twopenneth.

    Bloody rare for floor-crossing in the Senate anyway.

    Only one full floor crossing in the Senate (as opposed to caucus quitting) this century - Arlen Specter in 2009 (although I think Jim Jeffords sort of made an unofficial switch).

    Before that 1995, 1994 and then Strom Thurmond in 1964.
    But we are facing a sort of unique time in US politics where you could most expect one?
    No.

    In fact given the hyperpartisanship and the threats to anyone who dares to stand up to Mushroom Shaped, I'd say it's less likely, not more.
    But standing up to the Orange Baby is increasingly what they are doing now. They are actually going to Denmark and saying ignore him.

    I suppose they don’t have to cross the floor. Knowing they won’t seek re-election, they could just sit in the middle of the floor?
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,521
    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 13,183

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    algarkirk said:

    Letby not to face further murder charges. Apols if this has been noted already

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yxdgl21nko

    Good, she is serving a whole life order anyway, a complete waste of CPS taxpayer money to charge her anymore
    That is simply nonsense

    Had the evidence indicated further murders than of course she should have faced justice, not least for the bereaved families
    There is no sentence longer than a whole life order which she has already received. She has already faced justice and every penny the CPS would have to pay on another prosecution of her would be a penny not spent on prosecuting a criminal who has not yet faced justice.

    That is assuming Letby is still definitely guilty, of which even a few medical experts have raised doubts
    You cannot deny justice to bereaved families, and dismissing them as no point is simply unacceptable no matter how much you prevaricate [ which is of course your modus operandi]
    What's justice in this context? They won't be particularly happy if she were found not guilty. I've gone 180 degrees on my view of her guilt and I suspect that a retrial would have cast doubt on previous convictions.
    To me at least, Justice is a multi-functional thing.

    There is publicly trying to set out what happened, there is punishment, there is deterrence and a host of other things.

    It’s not about making people happy - it’s about getting as close as we can to facts.

    At least to me.
    I agree with you. We've gone from a position where victims were routinely ignored or worse (e.g. Hillsborough) to the opposite extreme where victims' views are all that matter (e.g. the ridiculous "Martyn's Law" mandating village halls to have an anti-terror plan).
    No victim of the Manchester attack would have conceived of insisting that village halls having an anti-terror plan, I suspect.

    That kind of gold plating is classic Process State. If *everyone* fills out a 500 page plan, then the terrorists can’t attack!
    It was championed by Martyn Hett's mother, Figen Murray, following the Manchester Arena bombing, who admittedly didn't draft it, but she campaigned relentlessly for it to be passed.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,069

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Runway denial
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,719

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Fortified Igloos. Yellow ice made from husky piss. Awake the Battle Bears.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,470

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Hand grenades hidden in snowballs?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,069
    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    algarkirk said:

    Letby not to face further murder charges. Apols if this has been noted already

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yxdgl21nko

    Good, she is serving a whole life order anyway, a complete waste of CPS taxpayer money to charge her anymore
    That is simply nonsense

    Had the evidence indicated further murders than of course she should have faced justice, not least for the bereaved families
    There is no sentence longer than a whole life order which she has already received. She has already faced justice and every penny the CPS would have to pay on another prosecution of her would be a penny not spent on prosecuting a criminal who has not yet faced justice.

    That is assuming Letby is still definitely guilty, of which even a few medical experts have raised doubts
    You cannot deny justice to bereaved families, and dismissing them as no point is simply unacceptable no matter how much you prevaricate [ which is of course your modus operandi]
    What's justice in this context? They won't be particularly happy if she were found not guilty. I've gone 180 degrees on my view of her guilt and I suspect that a retrial would have cast doubt on previous convictions.
    To me at least, Justice is a multi-functional thing.

    There is publicly trying to set out what happened, there is punishment, there is deterrence and a host of other things.

    It’s not about making people happy - it’s about getting as close as we can to facts.

    At least to me.
    I agree with you. We've gone from a position where victims were routinely ignored or worse (e.g. Hillsborough) to the opposite extreme where victims' views are all that matter (e.g. the ridiculous "Martyn's Law" mandating village halls to have an anti-terror plan).
    No victim of the Manchester attack would have conceived of insisting that village halls having an anti-terror plan, I suspect.

    That kind of gold plating is classic Process State. If *everyone* fills out a 500 page plan, then the terrorists can’t attack!
    It was championed by Martyn Hett's mother, Figen Murray, following the Manchester Arena bombing, who admittedly didn't draft it, but she campaigned relentlessly for it to be passed.
    I would bet they forgot to mention that it would apply to the church hall in the village, or that she would have wanted it to apply there.

    That’s a classic of the genre.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,236
    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    Time to translate Bella Ciao into Danish.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,719
    edited 5:50PM

    Mark Carney delivering a very good speech in Davos declaring we are in the midst of a rupture, not a crisis

    Multilateral institutions are are risk

    We will be principled and pragmatic

    We will engage strategically and are recalibrating our relationship to maximise our values

    We stand with Greenland and Denmark and strongly oppose tariffs over Greenland and calls for focused talks

    He is championing efforts to build a bridge between the trans pacific partnership and the EU to create a trading block of 1.5 billion people
    ...............

    The comparision with Starmer is stark and why is he not speaking like this.

    A trans pacific - EU partnersip has to be welcomed by everyone as it solves the problem of UK - EU membership and excludes the madman in the White House

    Carney is a really great guy. All power to him.
    I wasn't impressed previously, but his speech was outstanding and Canada is fortunate to have him at this time

    I wish we had a comparable PM
    Starmer may not be great, but I can't imagine any of the last 3 PMs doing a better job.
    Sunak and he would have been more or less on the same page, but the previous two make it difficult to sneer too much at Americans voting for Trump.
    The British public didn't vote for Truss to be PM, and Conservative MPs corrected the error in less than two months.

    I think the comparison is to the advantage of a Parliamentary system, over a Presidential one.
    Yes. Completely different Democratic Systems. Truss inherited more power and control to her office than Trump is another angle on our different systems.

    ‘Conservative MPs corrected the error in less than two months.”
    But at what cost of Attacking your own leader and lying about their budgets, shreds your own parties credibility. A nadir in credibility which cannot be recovered leading to electoral disaster - the removal of Truss played its part.

    There would be more Conservative MPs today if they had stuck with Boris.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,036

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Stockpile medicines, food, water and fuel since any conflict is likely to interrupt supplies.

    There are limited options for preparing armed resistance, but there are things they can do to make it more difficult for the US, and to raise the price to a level that might be deemed unacceptable.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,098
    CatMan said:

    It seems as if the exact moment of 3i/Atlas being precisely aliigned between the Sun and the earth will be on Thursday at 1om, a bit like a cometsry eclipse.

    Don't worry, the chances of anything coming from 3i/Atlas are a million to one...
    But still they come.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,521

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Stockpile medicines, food, water and fuel since any conflict is likely to interrupt supplies.

    There are limited options for preparing armed resistance, but there are things they can do to make it more difficult for the US, and to raise the price to a level that might be deemed unacceptable.
    I don't know much about living in Greenland but surely given the climate and population density you'd stockpile those already?
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,347

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Like out friends in the USA in 2001 they would invoke Article 5 of the NATO treaty. I think they have exactly one option and that is the one. No, I don't know what happens next either. No, of course it doesn't make sense. Yes, something is going to go pop.

  • TazTaz Posts: 24,098

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Stockpile medicines, food, water and fuel since any conflict is likely to interrupt supplies.

    There are limited options for preparing armed resistance, but there are things they can do to make it more difficult for the US, and to raise the price to a level that might be deemed unacceptable.
    I don't know much about living in Greenland but surely given the climate and population density you'd stockpile those already?
    It’s cold and unfriendly but not as cold and unfriendly as Kamchatka is currently !
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 27,541
    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    algarkirk said:

    Letby not to face further murder charges. Apols if this has been noted already

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yxdgl21nko

    Good, she is serving a whole life order anyway, a complete waste of CPS taxpayer money to charge her anymore
    That is simply nonsense

    Had the evidence indicated further murders than of course she should have faced justice, not least for the bereaved families
    There is no sentence longer than a whole life order which she has already received. She has already faced justice and every penny the CPS would have to pay on another prosecution of her would be a penny not spent on prosecuting a criminal who has not yet faced justice.

    That is assuming Letby is still definitely guilty, of which even a few medical experts have raised doubts
    You cannot deny justice to bereaved families, and dismissing them as no point is simply unacceptable no matter how much you prevaricate [ which is of course your modus operandi]
    What's justice in this context? They won't be particularly happy if she were found not guilty. I've gone 180 degrees on my view of her guilt and I suspect that a retrial would have cast doubt on previous convictions.
    To me at least, Justice is a multi-functional thing.

    There is publicly trying to set out what happened, there is punishment, there is deterrence and a host of other things.

    It’s not about making people happy - it’s about getting as close as we can to facts.

    At least to me.
    I agree with you. We've gone from a position where victims were routinely ignored or worse (e.g. Hillsborough) to the opposite extreme where victims' views are all that matter (e.g. the ridiculous "Martyn's Law" mandating village halls to have an anti-terror plan).
    No victim of the Manchester attack would have conceived of insisting that village halls having an anti-terror plan, I suspect.

    That kind of gold plating is classic Process State. If *everyone* fills out a 500 page plan, then the terrorists can’t attack!
    It was championed by Martyn Hett's mother, Figen Murray, following the Manchester Arena bombing, who admittedly didn't draft it, but she campaigned relentlessly for it to be passed.
    It's the duty of politicians to say no to this nonsense.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,366
    Sean F - I think Yanukovych and the Maidan protests in Ukraine are probably a better example for Americans to follow.

    God knows what is happening in Iran right now. Has Trump tried to move the news agenda on since he told them help was on its way and then the regime massacred the people?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,806
    @jonatanpallesen

    The largest Danish left-wing party looked to be losing the upcoming election, but have now had a large bump due to Trump's Greenland posturing.

    He had the same effect on the Canadian election.

    And the election in Australia.

    Quite possibly there is no person who has had as detrimental an effect on right-wing political success across The West as Trump.

    These are very important times, with the spectre of mass immigration hanging over all of The West. It's not the time to fuck around in this way.

    https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2013248710809915537?s=20
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,036

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Stockpile medicines, food, water and fuel since any conflict is likely to interrupt supplies.

    There are limited options for preparing armed resistance, but there are things they can do to make it more difficult for the US, and to raise the price to a level that might be deemed unacceptable.
    I don't know much about living in Greenland but surely given the climate and population density you'd stockpile those already?
    Maybe it's just the Molotov cocktail recipe then.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 60,069
    tlg86 said:

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    algarkirk said:

    Letby not to face further murder charges. Apols if this has been noted already

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yxdgl21nko

    Good, she is serving a whole life order anyway, a complete waste of CPS taxpayer money to charge her anymore
    That is simply nonsense

    Had the evidence indicated further murders than of course she should have faced justice, not least for the bereaved families
    There is no sentence longer than a whole life order which she has already received. She has already faced justice and every penny the CPS would have to pay on another prosecution of her would be a penny not spent on prosecuting a criminal who has not yet faced justice.

    That is assuming Letby is still definitely guilty, of which even a few medical experts have raised doubts
    You cannot deny justice to bereaved families, and dismissing them as no point is simply unacceptable no matter how much you prevaricate [ which is of course your modus operandi]
    What's justice in this context? They won't be particularly happy if she were found not guilty. I've gone 180 degrees on my view of her guilt and I suspect that a retrial would have cast doubt on previous convictions.
    To me at least, Justice is a multi-functional thing.

    There is publicly trying to set out what happened, there is punishment, there is deterrence and a host of other things.

    It’s not about making people happy - it’s about getting as close as we can to facts.

    At least to me.
    I agree with you. We've gone from a position where victims were routinely ignored or worse (e.g. Hillsborough) to the opposite extreme where victims' views are all that matter (e.g. the ridiculous "Martyn's Law" mandating village halls to have an anti-terror plan).
    No victim of the Manchester attack would have conceived of insisting that village halls having an anti-terror plan, I suspect.

    That kind of gold plating is classic Process State. If *everyone* fills out a 500 page plan, then the terrorists can’t attack!
    It was championed by Martyn Hett's mother, Figen Murray, following the Manchester Arena bombing, who admittedly didn't draft it, but she campaigned relentlessly for it to be passed.
    It's the duty of politicians to say no to this nonsense.
    The duty of legislators to control legislation!! Bit anti-democratic or something?
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,719
    Taz said:

    CatMan said:

    It seems as if the exact moment of 3i/Atlas being precisely aliigned between the Sun and the earth will be on Thursday at 1om, a bit like a cometsry eclipse.

    Don't worry, the chances of anything coming from 3i/Atlas are a million to one...
    But still they come.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qtZboo4Oek
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,521

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Stockpile medicines, food, water and fuel since any conflict is likely to interrupt supplies.

    There are limited options for preparing armed resistance, but there are things they can do to make it more difficult for the US, and to raise the price to a level that might be deemed unacceptable.
    I don't know much about living in Greenland but surely given the climate and population density you'd stockpile those already?
    Maybe it's just the Molotov cocktail recipe then.
    That would be beyond pointless at great personal risk.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,806
    @axios
    Amazon CEO Andy Jassy says prices have started to increase because of Trump tariffs
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,403

    Sean F - I think Yanukovych and the Maidan protests in Ukraine are probably a better example for Americans to follow.

    God knows what is happening in Iran right now. Has Trump tried to move the news agenda on since he told them help was on its way and then the regime massacred the people?

    Seems he was all fart and no follow-through?
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,614
    Scott_xP said:

    @axios
    Amazon CEO Andy Jassy says prices have started to increase because of Trump tariffs

    Fake news by the radical leftist lamestream media
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 21,258

    Sean F - I think Yanukovych and the Maidan protests in Ukraine are probably a better example for Americans to follow.

    God knows what is happening in Iran right now. Has Trump tried to move the news agenda on since he told them help was on its way and then the regime massacred the people?

    Seems he was all fart and no follow-through?
    Well he has just thrown the Kurds to the wolves in Syria since they stopped serving a purpose.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,098

    Taz said:

    CatMan said:

    It seems as if the exact moment of 3i/Atlas being precisely aliigned between the Sun and the earth will be on Thursday at 1om, a bit like a cometsry eclipse.

    Don't worry, the chances of anything coming from 3i/Atlas are a million to one...
    But still they come.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qtZboo4Oek
    What on earth is that. It’s like static with a tune behind it.

    I thought it was going to be a version of the Jennifer Rush timeless classic. From the eighties.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,036

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Stockpile medicines, food, water and fuel since any conflict is likely to interrupt supplies.

    There are limited options for preparing armed resistance, but there are things they can do to make it more difficult for the US, and to raise the price to a level that might be deemed unacceptable.
    I don't know much about living in Greenland but surely given the climate and population density you'd stockpile those already?
    Maybe it's just the Molotov cocktail recipe then.
    That would be beyond pointless at great personal risk.
    More seriously, the Nordic countries have long had plans for partisan resistance movements in the event of Russian invasion. They've been work with the Ukrainians to help the resistance in occupied Ukraine, although the feeling seems to be that their tactics and doctrine is out of date for a modern digital world.

    The Ukrainian resistance is regularly carrying out attacks that can be broadly classified into three types - providing intelligence for Ukrainian drone attacks, assassination/arson to intimidate the occupation authorities and collaborators, sabotage of enemy logistics.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,098
    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    On postponed or cancelled local elections, nine Councils cancelled the elections which should have taken place in 2025:

    They were: Norfolk, Suffolk, Essex. East and West Sussex, Hampshire, Isle of Wight, Surrey and Thurrock. The majority of these were Conservative-controlled but the plan was for these authorities to hold elections to the new Shadow Unitaries in May this year with the new Unitaries taking over on 1st April 2027 when the existing County and District Councils would be abolished.

    That's happening in Surrey where, despite the Government being slow to make a decision about the new structure, the Shadow elections are due to take place for the new East and West Surrey Councils on May 7th.

    How it's progressing in other areas I don't know but if any of the above are looking for a further delay of a year in holding elections to Shadow authorities, it means the County and District councils have likely struggled to find a mutually acceptable structure and the Government has dawdled on making a decision.

    Either way, we could end up with the ludicrous situation of County Councillors elected in May 2021 still being in office in March 2028 - elect for four years, end up with nearly seven.

    The law should be quite clear - a single 12 month postponement or rather extension to existing terms to allow for re-organisation is all that should be allowed - IF the authorities cannot meet the requirement to set up Shadow authorities in the time allowed, they should fresh elections at both County and District level and elect new Councils to carry forward re-organisation and, if necessary, renegotiate the structures if the opinion of the electorate via the ballot box warrants it.

    The proposed Unitarisation (horrible word) is going to come with horrendous transitional costs which will take years to recoup even if the envisaged savings materialise. It's been an object lesson in the adage of leaving well alone.

    Why would residents of other councils in, say, Surrey want to take on the chronic debts of Woking too ?

    There’s no solution unless I’ve missed it.

    The whole situation is an utter shambles. Both this and the previous govt have much to answer for.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,818
    Scott_xP said:

    @jonatanpallesen

    The largest Danish left-wing party looked to be losing the upcoming election, but have now had a large bump due to Trump's Greenland posturing.

    He had the same effect on the Canadian election.

    And the election in Australia.

    Quite possibly there is no person who has had as detrimental an effect on right-wing political success across The West as Trump.

    These are very important times, with the spectre of mass immigration hanging over all of The West. It's not the time to fuck around in this way.

    https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2013248710809915537?s=20

    Having a similar effect here:

    Zack Polanski has said that Britain should expel US forces from the UK if the country seizes Greenland - a proposal 55% of Britons support

    Support: 55%
    Oppose: 22%

    https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3mcunhbfsdc2d

    Noteworthy that one party sticks out again as the Quisling Party.

  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,521

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Stockpile medicines, food, water and fuel since any conflict is likely to interrupt supplies.

    There are limited options for preparing armed resistance, but there are things they can do to make it more difficult for the US, and to raise the price to a level that might be deemed unacceptable.
    I don't know much about living in Greenland but surely given the climate and population density you'd stockpile those already?
    Maybe it's just the Molotov cocktail recipe then.
    That would be beyond pointless at great personal risk.
    More seriously, the Nordic countries have long had plans for partisan resistance movements in the event of Russian invasion. They've been work with the Ukrainians to help the resistance in occupied Ukraine, although the feeling seems to be that their tactics and doctrine is out of date for a modern digital world.

    The Ukrainian resistance is regularly carrying out attacks that can be broadly classified into three types - providing intelligence for Ukrainian drone attacks, assassination/arson to intimidate the occupation authorities and collaborators, sabotage of enemy logistics.
    Greenland is 50,000 people, the biggest town has 20,000 people. There is no point in organising any resistance. This isn't Norway being invaded or Afghanistan or Vietnam. Think Loughborough and environs.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,423

    Sean F - I think Yanukovych and the Maidan protests in Ukraine are probably a better example for Americans to follow.

    God knows what is happening in Iran right now. Has Trump tried to move the news agenda on since he told them help was on its way and then the regime massacred the people?

    Seems he was all fart and no follow-through?
    If you were a sack of shit you'd not risk losing body-mass either.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 68,924
    edited 6:21PM
    Trump staff handed statements to the press pack waiting for Trump

    365 wins in 365 days !!!

    Laughter in room
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,612
    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @jonatanpallesen

    The largest Danish left-wing party looked to be losing the upcoming election, but have now had a large bump due to Trump's Greenland posturing.

    He had the same effect on the Canadian election.

    And the election in Australia.

    Quite possibly there is no person who has had as detrimental an effect on right-wing political success across The West as Trump.

    These are very important times, with the spectre of mass immigration hanging over all of The West. It's not the time to fuck around in this way.

    https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2013248710809915537?s=20

    Having a similar effect here:

    Zack Polanski has said that Britain should expel US forces from the UK if the country seizes Greenland - a proposal 55% of Britons support

    Support: 55%
    Oppose: 22%

    https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3mcunhbfsdc2d

    Noteworthy that one party sticks out again as the Quisling Party.

    Traitorous scum.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,098
    Well done Trump, another winner.

    All this winning, great for the mid terms !

    https://x.com/thestalwart/status/2013580367123423518?s=61
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,818

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Stockpile medicines, food, water and fuel since any conflict is likely to interrupt supplies.

    There are limited options for preparing armed resistance, but there are things they can do to make it more difficult for the US, and to raise the price to a level that might be deemed unacceptable.
    I don't know much about living in Greenland but surely given the climate and population density you'd stockpile those already?
    Maybe it's just the Molotov cocktail recipe then.
    That would be beyond pointless at great personal risk.
    More seriously, the Nordic countries have long had plans for partisan resistance movements in the event of Russian invasion. They've been work with the Ukrainians to help the resistance in occupied Ukraine, although the feeling seems to be that their tactics and doctrine is out of date for a modern digital world.

    The Ukrainian resistance is regularly carrying out attacks that can be broadly classified into three types - providing intelligence for Ukrainian drone attacks, assassination/arson to intimidate the occupation authorities and collaborators, sabotage of enemy logistics.
    Greenland is 50,000 people, the biggest town has 20,000 people. There is no point in organising any resistance. This isn't Norway being invaded or Afghanistan or Vietnam. Think Loughborough and environs.
    Denmark has sent between 300-500 troops to Nuuk, a Frigate and two arctic patrol vessels. Their Chief of Armed forces is there in personal command.

    I don't think they have been sent to just surrender.

    https://bsky.app/profile/vcdgf555.bsky.social/post/3mculqer7ls2a
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,719
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    CatMan said:

    It seems as if the exact moment of 3i/Atlas being precisely aliigned between the Sun and the earth will be on Thursday at 1om, a bit like a cometsry eclipse.

    Don't worry, the chances of anything coming from 3i/Atlas are a million to one...
    But still they come.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qtZboo4Oek
    What on earth is that. It’s like static with a tune behind it.

    I thought it was going to be a version of the Jennifer Rush timeless classic. From the eighties.
    Jennifer Rush, what’s that?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1I/ʻOumuamua
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 57,403

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Stockpile medicines, food, water and fuel since any conflict is likely to interrupt supplies.

    There are limited options for preparing armed resistance, but there are things they can do to make it more difficult for the US, and to raise the price to a level that might be deemed unacceptable.
    I don't know much about living in Greenland but surely given the climate and population density you'd stockpile those already?
    Maybe it's just the Molotov cocktail recipe then.
    That would be beyond pointless at great personal risk.
    More seriously, the Nordic countries have long had plans for partisan resistance movements in the event of Russian invasion. They've been work with the Ukrainians to help the resistance in occupied Ukraine, although the feeling seems to be that their tactics and doctrine is out of date for a modern digital world.

    The Ukrainian resistance is regularly carrying out attacks that can be broadly classified into three types - providing intelligence for Ukrainian drone attacks, assassination/arson to intimidate the occupation authorities and collaborators, sabotage of enemy logistics.
    Greenland is 50,000 people, the biggest town has 20,000 people. There is no point in organising any resistance. This isn't Norway being invaded or Afghanistan or Vietnam. Think Loughborough and environs.
    They have at least one Nuuk, however.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 39,055
    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @jonatanpallesen

    The largest Danish left-wing party looked to be losing the upcoming election, but have now had a large bump due to Trump's Greenland posturing.

    He had the same effect on the Canadian election.

    And the election in Australia.

    Quite possibly there is no person who has had as detrimental an effect on right-wing political success across The West as Trump.

    These are very important times, with the spectre of mass immigration hanging over all of The West. It's not the time to fuck around in this way.

    https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2013248710809915537?s=20

    Having a similar effect here:

    Zack Polanski has said that Britain should expel US forces from the UK if the country seizes Greenland - a proposal 55% of Britons support

    Support: 55%
    Oppose: 22%

    https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3mcunhbfsdc2d

    Noteworthy that one party sticks out again as the Quisling Party.

    In reality we'll stick with the US because they're better than the alternatives such as Russia, China, etc.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,036

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Stockpile medicines, food, water and fuel since any conflict is likely to interrupt supplies.

    There are limited options for preparing armed resistance, but there are things they can do to make it more difficult for the US, and to raise the price to a level that might be deemed unacceptable.
    I don't know much about living in Greenland but surely given the climate and population density you'd stockpile those already?
    Maybe it's just the Molotov cocktail recipe then.
    That would be beyond pointless at great personal risk.
    More seriously, the Nordic countries have long had plans for partisan resistance movements in the event of Russian invasion. They've been work with the Ukrainians to help the resistance in occupied Ukraine, although the feeling seems to be that their tactics and doctrine is out of date for a modern digital world.

    The Ukrainian resistance is regularly carrying out attacks that can be broadly classified into three types - providing intelligence for Ukrainian drone attacks, assassination/arson to intimidate the occupation authorities and collaborators, sabotage of enemy logistics.
    Greenland is 50,000 people, the biggest town has 20,000 people. There is no point in organising any resistance. This isn't Norway being invaded or Afghanistan or Vietnam. Think Loughborough and environs.
    The US is unlikely to occupy the place with 50,000 soldiers either, so there's as much point to armed resistance as there would be anywhere else. With the same tradeoffs.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,719

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Stockpile medicines, food, water and fuel since any conflict is likely to interrupt supplies.

    There are limited options for preparing armed resistance, but there are things they can do to make it more difficult for the US, and to raise the price to a level that might be deemed unacceptable.
    I don't know much about living in Greenland but surely given the climate and population density you'd stockpile those already?
    Maybe it's just the Molotov cocktail recipe then.
    That would be beyond pointless at great personal risk.
    More seriously, the Nordic countries have long had plans for partisan resistance movements in the event of Russian invasion. They've been work with the Ukrainians to help the resistance in occupied Ukraine, although the feeling seems to be that their tactics and doctrine is out of date for a modern digital world.

    The Ukrainian resistance is regularly carrying out attacks that can be broadly classified into three types - providing intelligence for Ukrainian drone attacks, assassination/arson to intimidate the occupation authorities and collaborators, sabotage of enemy logistics.
    Greenland is 50,000 people, the biggest town has 20,000 people. There is no point in organising any resistance. This isn't Norway being invaded or Afghanistan or Vietnam. Think Loughborough and environs.
    False comparison, because the US occupying forces will never be more than a few thousand.

    Greenland is classic outpost territory where heaven is high, and the emperor is far away.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,914
    Taz said:

    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    On postponed or cancelled local elections, nine Councils cancelled the elections which should have taken place in 2025:

    They were: Norfolk, Suffolk, Essex. East and West Sussex, Hampshire, Isle of Wight, Surrey and Thurrock. The majority of these were Conservative-controlled but the plan was for these authorities to hold elections to the new Shadow Unitaries in May this year with the new Unitaries taking over on 1st April 2027 when the existing County and District Councils would be abolished.

    That's happening in Surrey where, despite the Government being slow to make a decision about the new structure, the Shadow elections are due to take place for the new East and West Surrey Councils on May 7th.

    How it's progressing in other areas I don't know but if any of the above are looking for a further delay of a year in holding elections to Shadow authorities, it means the County and District councils have likely struggled to find a mutually acceptable structure and the Government has dawdled on making a decision.

    Either way, we could end up with the ludicrous situation of County Councillors elected in May 2021 still being in office in March 2028 - elect for four years, end up with nearly seven.

    The law should be quite clear - a single 12 month postponement or rather extension to existing terms to allow for re-organisation is all that should be allowed - IF the authorities cannot meet the requirement to set up Shadow authorities in the time allowed, they should fresh elections at both County and District level and elect new Councils to carry forward re-organisation and, if necessary, renegotiate the structures if the opinion of the electorate via the ballot box warrants it.

    The proposed Unitarisation (horrible word) is going to come with horrendous transitional costs which will take years to recoup even if the envisaged savings materialise. It's been an object lesson in the adage of leaving well alone.

    Why would residents of other councils in, say, Surrey want to take on the chronic debts of Woking too ?

    There’s no solution unless I’ve missed it.

    The whole situation is an utter shambles. Both this and the previous govt have much to answer for.
    It's not just Woking which is out £2 billion you have Spelthorne (£1 bn) and the total debt of all the councils (DIstrict and County) was estimated a year ago at £5.5 billion.

    I think Woking has since received a bailout but both the new Councils are likely to start life with significant debt unless the Government writes the debt off and then there's the question of the transitional costs which are likely to absorb any actual savings for several years.
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 9,055
    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @jonatanpallesen

    The largest Danish left-wing party looked to be losing the upcoming election, but have now had a large bump due to Trump's Greenland posturing.

    He had the same effect on the Canadian election.

    And the election in Australia.

    Quite possibly there is no person who has had as detrimental an effect on right-wing political success across The West as Trump.

    These are very important times, with the spectre of mass immigration hanging over all of The West. It's not the time to fuck around in this way.

    https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2013248710809915537?s=20

    Having a similar effect here:

    Zack Polanski has said that Britain should expel US forces from the UK if the country seizes Greenland - a proposal 55% of Britons support

    Support: 55%
    Oppose: 22%

    https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3mcunhbfsdc2d

    Noteworthy that one party sticks out again as the Quisling Party.

    I wonder why Reform are like that. They certainly see themselves as patriotic.

    Is it that they admire Trump's might is right philosophy? Or that they really hate Europe so quite like the idea of an invasion?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,338
    rkrkrk said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @jonatanpallesen

    The largest Danish left-wing party looked to be losing the upcoming election, but have now had a large bump due to Trump's Greenland posturing.

    He had the same effect on the Canadian election.

    And the election in Australia.

    Quite possibly there is no person who has had as detrimental an effect on right-wing political success across The West as Trump.

    These are very important times, with the spectre of mass immigration hanging over all of The West. It's not the time to fuck around in this way.

    https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2013248710809915537?s=20

    Having a similar effect here:

    Zack Polanski has said that Britain should expel US forces from the UK if the country seizes Greenland - a proposal 55% of Britons support

    Support: 55%
    Oppose: 22%

    https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3mcunhbfsdc2d

    Noteworthy that one party sticks out again as the Quisling Party.

    I wonder why Reform are like that. They certainly see themselves as patriotic.

    Is it that they admire Trump's might is right philosophy? Or that they really hate Europe so quite like the idea of an invasion?
    Yes.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,719

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @jonatanpallesen

    The largest Danish left-wing party looked to be losing the upcoming election, but have now had a large bump due to Trump's Greenland posturing.

    He had the same effect on the Canadian election.

    And the election in Australia.

    Quite possibly there is no person who has had as detrimental an effect on right-wing political success across The West as Trump.

    These are very important times, with the spectre of mass immigration hanging over all of The West. It's not the time to fuck around in this way.

    https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2013248710809915537?s=20

    Having a similar effect here:

    Zack Polanski has said that Britain should expel US forces from the UK if the country seizes Greenland - a proposal 55% of Britons support

    Support: 55%
    Oppose: 22%

    https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3mcunhbfsdc2d

    Noteworthy that one party sticks out again as the Quisling Party.

    Traitorous scum.
    Which column is Reform on that table? Just counting from the left.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,521
    MelonB said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Stockpile medicines, food, water and fuel since any conflict is likely to interrupt supplies.

    There are limited options for preparing armed resistance, but there are things they can do to make it more difficult for the US, and to raise the price to a level that might be deemed unacceptable.
    I don't know much about living in Greenland but surely given the climate and population density you'd stockpile those already?
    Maybe it's just the Molotov cocktail recipe then.
    That would be beyond pointless at great personal risk.
    More seriously, the Nordic countries have long had plans for partisan resistance movements in the event of Russian invasion. They've been work with the Ukrainians to help the resistance in occupied Ukraine, although the feeling seems to be that their tactics and doctrine is out of date for a modern digital world.

    The Ukrainian resistance is regularly carrying out attacks that can be broadly classified into three types - providing intelligence for Ukrainian drone attacks, assassination/arson to intimidate the occupation authorities and collaborators, sabotage of enemy logistics.
    Greenland is 50,000 people, the biggest town has 20,000 people. There is no point in organising any resistance. This isn't Norway being invaded or Afghanistan or Vietnam. Think Loughborough and environs.
    False comparison, because the US occupying forces will never be more than a few thousand.

    Greenland is classic outpost territory where heaven is high, and the emperor is far away.
    At the peak of Afghan surge it was 1 US soldier : 300 Afghans. You are suggesting it will be something like 1 : 20 in Greenland.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,200
    edited 6:33PM
    Andy_JS said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @jonatanpallesen

    The largest Danish left-wing party looked to be losing the upcoming election, but have now had a large bump due to Trump's Greenland posturing.

    He had the same effect on the Canadian election.

    And the election in Australia.

    Quite possibly there is no person who has had as detrimental an effect on right-wing political success across The West as Trump.

    These are very important times, with the spectre of mass immigration hanging over all of The West. It's not the time to fuck around in this way.

    https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2013248710809915537?s=20

    Having a similar effect here:

    Zack Polanski has said that Britain should expel US forces from the UK if the country seizes Greenland - a proposal 55% of Britons support

    Support: 55%
    Oppose: 22%

    https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3mcunhbfsdc2d

    Noteworthy that one party sticks out again as the Quisling Party.

    In reality we'll stick with the US because they're better than the alternatives such as Russia, China, etc.
    At the point at which they've invaded Greenland that's not true anymore, I'm afraid. Particularly if there is no effort to overthrow Trump - it would be safe to assume in that scenario the midterms won't happen.
  • TresTres Posts: 3,420
    rkrkrk said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @jonatanpallesen

    The largest Danish left-wing party looked to be losing the upcoming election, but have now had a large bump due to Trump's Greenland posturing.

    He had the same effect on the Canadian election.

    And the election in Australia.

    Quite possibly there is no person who has had as detrimental an effect on right-wing political success across The West as Trump.

    These are very important times, with the spectre of mass immigration hanging over all of The West. It's not the time to fuck around in this way.

    https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2013248710809915537?s=20

    Having a similar effect here:

    Zack Polanski has said that Britain should expel US forces from the UK if the country seizes Greenland - a proposal 55% of Britons support

    Support: 55%
    Oppose: 22%

    https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3mcunhbfsdc2d

    Noteworthy that one party sticks out again as the Quisling Party.

    I wonder why Reform are like that. They certainly see themselves as patriotic.

    Is it that they admire Trump's might is right philosophy? Or that they really hate Europe so quite like the idea of an invasion?
    they just dumb fucks
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,806
    @klasfeldreports.com‬

    BREAKING

    A federal judge STRIKES the words "United States Attorney" from Lindsey Halligan's signature and warns that he will refer her to disciplinary proceedings if she persists in calling herself one.

    https://bsky.app/profile/klasfeldreports.com/post/3mcurzzys3n2a
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,719
    Eabhal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @jonatanpallesen

    The largest Danish left-wing party looked to be losing the upcoming election, but have now had a large bump due to Trump's Greenland posturing.

    He had the same effect on the Canadian election.

    And the election in Australia.

    Quite possibly there is no person who has had as detrimental an effect on right-wing political success across The West as Trump.

    These are very important times, with the spectre of mass immigration hanging over all of The West. It's not the time to fuck around in this way.

    https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2013248710809915537?s=20

    Having a similar effect here:

    Zack Polanski has said that Britain should expel US forces from the UK if the country seizes Greenland - a proposal 55% of Britons support

    Support: 55%
    Oppose: 22%

    https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3mcunhbfsdc2d

    Noteworthy that one party sticks out again as the Quisling Party.

    In reality we'll stick with the US because they're better than the alternatives such as Russia, China, etc.
    At the point at which they've invaded Greenland that's not true anymore, I'm afraid. Particularly if there is no effort to overthrow Trump - it would be safe to assume in that scenario the midterms won't happen.
    If they’re allied with Russia, even informally, then it’s certainly not true.

    They profess to see China as a rival, and I’m sure that’s true, but the visceral hatred is reserved for us Europeans.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 53,966

    Mark Carney delivering a very good speech in Davos declaring we are in the midst of a rupture, not a crisis

    Multilateral institutions are are risk

    We will be principled and pragmatic

    We will engage strategically and are recalibrating our relationship to maximise our values

    We stand with Greenland and Denmark and strongly oppose tariffs over Greenland and calls for focused talks

    He is championing efforts to build a bridge between the trans pacific partnership and the EU to create a trading block of 1.5 billion people
    ...............

    The comparision with Starmer is stark and why is he not speaking like this.

    A trans pacific - EU partnersip has to be welcomed by everyone as it solves the problem of UK - EU membership and excludes the madman in the White House

    Carney is a really great guy. All power to him.
    I wasn't impressed previously, but his speech was outstanding and Canada is fortunate to have him at this time

    I wish we had a comparable PM
    He is a very funny and charming guy. I saw him deliver an off the cuff speech once and he had the room eating out of his hand. The ability to communicate effectively and convincingly is a core skill for a successful politician. Streeting is our only comparable figure IMHO.
    Very much agree, I too have enjoyed his company.

    Not sure PBers are aware of but Carney helped me win a 14/1 bet in a few days during the last Canadian general election when I tipped Pierre Poilievre to lose his seat.
    And my 10 or 11/1, can’t remember, placed well ahead on the next Canadian government being liberal
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 85,538

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Stockpile medicines, food, water and fuel since any conflict is likely to interrupt supplies.

    There are limited options for preparing armed resistance, but there are things they can do to make it more difficult for the US, and to raise the price to a level that might be deemed unacceptable.
    I don't know much about living in Greenland but surely given the climate and population density you'd stockpile those already?
    Maybe it's just the Molotov cocktail recipe then.
    That would be beyond pointless at great personal risk.
    More seriously, the Nordic countries have long had plans for partisan resistance movements in the event of Russian invasion. They've been work with the Ukrainians to help the resistance in occupied Ukraine, although the feeling seems to be that their tactics and doctrine is out of date for a modern digital world.

    The Ukrainian resistance is regularly carrying out attacks that can be broadly classified into three types - providing intelligence for Ukrainian drone attacks, assassination/arson to intimidate the occupation authorities and collaborators, sabotage of enemy logistics.
    Greenland is 50,000 people, the biggest town has 20,000 people. There is no point in organising any resistance. This isn't Norway being invaded or Afghanistan or Vietnam. Think Loughborough and environs.
    The point would be a demonstration of the occupiers' illegitimacy.

    See also, Minneapolis...
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 53,966
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    High Court clears the way for Reform to challenge the cancelled local elections

    Good.
    As fiscal conservatives, why do we want to see good money which can be spent on services, simply wasted?
    Democracy, who needs it !!
    I know you are not one of this people ignorant of how local government works, so to you is this simply cancelling normal election schedule? Are you saying this years elections are not at all tied into unitary authority elections - there’s no actual link between them in this change over period? These elections will result in full value for money?
    So how long is this reorganisation taking ?

    What happens if it drags on another year, cancel those too ?

    Last year they were cancelled and barely a murmur.

    This year look at who is cancelling and where. Mostly Labour where they will get battered. Only 1 Lib Dem wants to cancel and some Tories.

    Either cancel all that are affected by reorganisation or none. At the moment the cancellations seem largely cynical political ploys to prevent embarrassing defeats.
    The planned elections, in affected councils, that will go ahead will only be for a single year term, anyway - although Hampshire has asked for a two year term.

    I agree a consistent approach should be adopted, but of course the government wanted councils to ‘ask’ rather than be told, so that they could try and duck the blame
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,036
    rkrkrk said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @jonatanpallesen

    The largest Danish left-wing party looked to be losing the upcoming election, but have now had a large bump due to Trump's Greenland posturing.

    He had the same effect on the Canadian election.

    And the election in Australia.

    Quite possibly there is no person who has had as detrimental an effect on right-wing political success across The West as Trump.

    These are very important times, with the spectre of mass immigration hanging over all of The West. It's not the time to fuck around in this way.

    https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2013248710809915537?s=20

    Having a similar effect here:

    Zack Polanski has said that Britain should expel US forces from the UK if the country seizes Greenland - a proposal 55% of Britons support

    Support: 55%
    Oppose: 22%

    https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3mcunhbfsdc2d

    Noteworthy that one party sticks out again as the Quisling Party.

    I wonder why Reform are like that. They certainly see themselves as patriotic.

    Is it that they admire Trump's might is right philosophy? Or that they really hate Europe so quite like the idea of an invasion?
    Trump is on their side. Therefore Trump must be right.

    Imagine if Biden were US President and the same question was asked - Reform would likely be most opposed.

    That's one reason to be sceptical of the strength of the Green response.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,098
    IanB2 said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    High Court clears the way for Reform to challenge the cancelled local elections

    Good.
    As fiscal conservatives, why do we want to see good money which can be spent on services, simply wasted?
    Democracy, who needs it !!
    I know you are not one of this people ignorant of how local government works, so to you is this simply cancelling normal election schedule? Are you saying this years elections are not at all tied into unitary authority elections - there’s no actual link between them in this change over period? These elections will result in full value for money?
    So how long is this reorganisation taking ?

    What happens if it drags on another year, cancel those too ?

    Last year they were cancelled and barely a murmur.

    This year look at who is cancelling and where. Mostly Labour where they will get battered. Only 1 Lib Dem wants to cancel and some Tories.

    Either cancel all that are affected by reorganisation or none. At the moment the cancellations seem largely cynical political ploys to prevent embarrassing defeats.
    The planned elections, in affected councils, that will go ahead will only be for a single year term, anyway - although Hampshire has asked for a two year term.

    I agree a consistent approach should be adopted, but of course the government wanted councils to ‘ask’ rather than be told, so that they could try and duck the blame
    And, by a happy coincidence, most of them asking were labour councils at a time when they are massively unpopular.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,180
    edited 6:50PM

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Stockpile medicines, food, water and fuel since any conflict is likely to interrupt supplies.

    There are limited options for preparing armed resistance, but there are things they can do to make it more difficult for the US, and to raise the price to a level that might be deemed unacceptable.
    I don't know much about living in Greenland but surely given the climate and population density you'd stockpile those already?
    Maybe it's just the Molotov cocktail recipe then.
    That would be beyond pointless at great personal risk.
    More seriously, the Nordic countries have long had plans for partisan resistance movements in the event of Russian invasion. They've been work with the Ukrainians to help the resistance in occupied Ukraine, although the feeling seems to be that their tactics and doctrine is out of date for a modern digital world.

    The Ukrainian resistance is regularly carrying out attacks that can be broadly classified into three types - providing intelligence for Ukrainian drone attacks, assassination/arson to intimidate the occupation authorities and collaborators, sabotage of enemy logistics.
    Greenland is 50,000 people, the biggest town has 20,000 people. There is no point in organising any resistance. This isn't Norway being invaded or Afghanistan or Vietnam. Think Loughborough and environs.
    At this time of year, close the runways (which would hardly be that difficult - literally fly a few drones near them) and the US have to come by sea.

    But they have no icebreakers.

    So they would have to use ships not well adapted for manouevering in ice.

    A charge of dynamite in the right place and there would be plenty of available icebergs.

    Both the Titanic and the Hans Hedtoft suggest this scenario ends poorly for the US.
  • TresTres Posts: 3,420
    Taz said:

    IanB2 said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    High Court clears the way for Reform to challenge the cancelled local elections

    Good.
    As fiscal conservatives, why do we want to see good money which can be spent on services, simply wasted?
    Democracy, who needs it !!
    I know you are not one of this people ignorant of how local government works, so to you is this simply cancelling normal election schedule? Are you saying this years elections are not at all tied into unitary authority elections - there’s no actual link between them in this change over period? These elections will result in full value for money?
    So how long is this reorganisation taking ?

    What happens if it drags on another year, cancel those too ?

    Last year they were cancelled and barely a murmur.

    This year look at who is cancelling and where. Mostly Labour where they will get battered. Only 1 Lib Dem wants to cancel and some Tories.

    Either cancel all that are affected by reorganisation or none. At the moment the cancellations seem largely cynical political ploys to prevent embarrassing defeats.
    The planned elections, in affected councils, that will go ahead will only be for a single year term, anyway - although Hampshire has asked for a two year term.

    I agree a consistent approach should be adopted, but of course the government wanted councils to ‘ask’ rather than be told, so that they could try and duck the blame
    And, by a happy coincidence, most of them asking were labour councils at a time when they are massively unpopular.
    After Reform have failed to stop council tax rises in all the council they run they now want to waste taxpayers money on stunts like this
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,719

    rkrkrk said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @jonatanpallesen

    The largest Danish left-wing party looked to be losing the upcoming election, but have now had a large bump due to Trump's Greenland posturing.

    He had the same effect on the Canadian election.

    And the election in Australia.

    Quite possibly there is no person who has had as detrimental an effect on right-wing political success across The West as Trump.

    These are very important times, with the spectre of mass immigration hanging over all of The West. It's not the time to fuck around in this way.

    https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2013248710809915537?s=20

    Having a similar effect here:

    Zack Polanski has said that Britain should expel US forces from the UK if the country seizes Greenland - a proposal 55% of Britons support

    Support: 55%
    Oppose: 22%

    https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3mcunhbfsdc2d

    Noteworthy that one party sticks out again as the Quisling Party.

    I wonder why Reform are like that. They certainly see themselves as patriotic.

    Is it that they admire Trump's might is right philosophy? Or that they really hate Europe so quite like the idea of an invasion?
    Trump is on their side. Therefore Trump must be right.

    Imagine if Biden were US President and the same question was asked - Reform would likely be most opposed.

    That's one reason to be sceptical of the strength of the Green response.
    This has to be the most ludicrous both-sidesing in Trumpian history.

    “Imagine if Biden were threatening to annex Greenland. What then, libtards?”
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 85,538
    The effing loon is now proclaiming himself the saviour of NATO.

    With virtually every European nation now refusing to meet him in private at Davos to “negotiate,” the utterly unhinged president of the US has now began writing an endless stream of nonsensical tweets.
    https://x.com/Daractenus/status/2013658554247319927

    As my dad succumbed to dementia, he was prey to all sorts of nonsensical ideas, but he retained an essential politeness to the end.

    Trump, in turn, seems to be retaining his inner raging arsehole.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,818

    rkrkrk said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @jonatanpallesen

    The largest Danish left-wing party looked to be losing the upcoming election, but have now had a large bump due to Trump's Greenland posturing.

    He had the same effect on the Canadian election.

    And the election in Australia.

    Quite possibly there is no person who has had as detrimental an effect on right-wing political success across The West as Trump.

    These are very important times, with the spectre of mass immigration hanging over all of The West. It's not the time to fuck around in this way.

    https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2013248710809915537?s=20

    Having a similar effect here:

    Zack Polanski has said that Britain should expel US forces from the UK if the country seizes Greenland - a proposal 55% of Britons support

    Support: 55%
    Oppose: 22%

    https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3mcunhbfsdc2d

    Noteworthy that one party sticks out again as the Quisling Party.

    I wonder why Reform are like that. They certainly see themselves as patriotic.

    Is it that they admire Trump's might is right philosophy? Or that they really hate Europe so quite like the idea of an invasion?
    Trump is on their side. Therefore Trump must be right.

    Imagine if Biden were US President and the same question was asked - Reform would likely be most opposed.

    That's one reason to be sceptical of the strength of the Green response.
    That's a fatuous response. Biden never threatened to invade Greenland, and wouldn't.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 7,054
    edited 6:56PM
    He really has gone mad. It’s not hyperbole. He’s bonkers.

    Put his press conference on. It’s like my grandad used to be in the nursing home.
  • TazTaz Posts: 24,098
    Tres said:

    Taz said:

    IanB2 said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    High Court clears the way for Reform to challenge the cancelled local elections

    Good.
    As fiscal conservatives, why do we want to see good money which can be spent on services, simply wasted?
    Democracy, who needs it !!
    I know you are not one of this people ignorant of how local government works, so to you is this simply cancelling normal election schedule? Are you saying this years elections are not at all tied into unitary authority elections - there’s no actual link between them in this change over period? These elections will result in full value for money?
    So how long is this reorganisation taking ?

    What happens if it drags on another year, cancel those too ?

    Last year they were cancelled and barely a murmur.

    This year look at who is cancelling and where. Mostly Labour where they will get battered. Only 1 Lib Dem wants to cancel and some Tories.

    Either cancel all that are affected by reorganisation or none. At the moment the cancellations seem largely cynical political ploys to prevent embarrassing defeats.
    The planned elections, in affected councils, that will go ahead will only be for a single year term, anyway - although Hampshire has asked for a two year term.

    I agree a consistent approach should be adopted, but of course the government wanted councils to ‘ask’ rather than be told, so that they could try and duck the blame
    And, by a happy coincidence, most of them asking were labour councils at a time when they are massively unpopular.
    After Reform have failed to stop council tax rises in all the council they run they now want to waste taxpayers money on stunts like this
    I see you can manage to avoid posting completely in lower case when you try.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,200
    Foxy said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @jonatanpallesen

    The largest Danish left-wing party looked to be losing the upcoming election, but have now had a large bump due to Trump's Greenland posturing.

    He had the same effect on the Canadian election.

    And the election in Australia.

    Quite possibly there is no person who has had as detrimental an effect on right-wing political success across The West as Trump.

    These are very important times, with the spectre of mass immigration hanging over all of The West. It's not the time to fuck around in this way.

    https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2013248710809915537?s=20

    Having a similar effect here:

    Zack Polanski has said that Britain should expel US forces from the UK if the country seizes Greenland - a proposal 55% of Britons support

    Support: 55%
    Oppose: 22%

    https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3mcunhbfsdc2d

    Noteworthy that one party sticks out again as the Quisling Party.

    I wonder why Reform are like that. They certainly see themselves as patriotic.

    Is it that they admire Trump's might is right philosophy? Or that they really hate Europe so quite like the idea of an invasion?
    You very rarely hear a Reform politician speaking well of Britain and they seem to despise much of our population. They think it Broken and would prefer us to be run by Trump Quislings.

    They are the antithesis of patriots.
    It's because they see in the US (and in Russia) a system of government that they much prefer to the one we have now. It's much simpler for a start - you just need to live vicariously through the big man, just agree with what he says. No need to win an argument or election. It also enables the oppression of those you disagree with - and watching that happen is immensely cathartic.

    We have seen this on left too, of course - but at this particular moment in history it's clear from what direction the threat now comes.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 68,924
    Trump

    I am going to Switzerland where I am happily awaited for !!!!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 85,538
    MelonB said:

    rkrkrk said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @jonatanpallesen

    The largest Danish left-wing party looked to be losing the upcoming election, but have now had a large bump due to Trump's Greenland posturing.

    He had the same effect on the Canadian election.

    And the election in Australia.

    Quite possibly there is no person who has had as detrimental an effect on right-wing political success across The West as Trump.

    These are very important times, with the spectre of mass immigration hanging over all of The West. It's not the time to fuck around in this way.

    https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2013248710809915537?s=20

    Having a similar effect here:

    Zack Polanski has said that Britain should expel US forces from the UK if the country seizes Greenland - a proposal 55% of Britons support

    Support: 55%
    Oppose: 22%

    https://bsky.app/profile/yougov.co.uk/post/3mcunhbfsdc2d

    Noteworthy that one party sticks out again as the Quisling Party.

    I wonder why Reform are like that. They certainly see themselves as patriotic.

    Is it that they admire Trump's might is right philosophy? Or that they really hate Europe so quite like the idea of an invasion?
    Trump is on their side. Therefore Trump must be right.

    Imagine if Biden were US President and the same question was asked - Reform would likely be most opposed.

    That's one reason to be sceptical of the strength of the Green response.
    This has to be the most ludicrous both-sidesing in Trumpian history.

    “Imagine if Biden were threatening to annex Greenland. What then, libtards?”
    The answer is pretty obvious.
    Congress would have restrained or frustrated him, as it did with the majority of even his constructive ideas.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,648
    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic island’s population and its authorities need to start preparing for a possible military invasion, Bloomberg reports.

    What preparation are they going to do? Seriously, not many options.
    Stockpile medicines, food, water and fuel since any conflict is likely to interrupt supplies.

    There are limited options for preparing armed resistance, but there are things they can do to make it more difficult for the US, and to raise the price to a level that might be deemed unacceptable.
    I don't know much about living in Greenland but surely given the climate and population density you'd stockpile those already?
    Maybe it's just the Molotov cocktail recipe then.
    That would be beyond pointless at great personal risk.
    More seriously, the Nordic countries have long had plans for partisan resistance movements in the event of Russian invasion. They've been work with the Ukrainians to help the resistance in occupied Ukraine, although the feeling seems to be that their tactics and doctrine is out of date for a modern digital world.

    The Ukrainian resistance is regularly carrying out attacks that can be broadly classified into three types - providing intelligence for Ukrainian drone attacks, assassination/arson to intimidate the occupation authorities and collaborators, sabotage of enemy logistics.
    Greenland is 50,000 people, the biggest town has 20,000 people. There is no point in organising any resistance. This isn't Norway being invaded or Afghanistan or Vietnam. Think Loughborough and environs.
    Denmark has sent between 300-500 troops to Nuuk, a Frigate and two arctic patrol vessels. Their Chief of Armed forces is there in personal command.

    I don't think they have been sent to just surrender.

    https://bsky.app/profile/vcdgf555.bsky.social/post/3mculqer7ls2a
    Trump thinks they only have two dog sledges.

    I'm sure the joint chiefs have sent a briefling but he wont read it
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 7,054
    I keep expecting his next words, as he turns over the cards, to be “Mr Bun the Baker”.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 77,180

    Trump

    I am going to Switzerland where I am happily awaited for !!!!

    We should make him Swiss, then get him on a roll.

    As in the old joke, how do you make Swiss roll?

    Take him up a mountain and give him a hard shove.
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