"Tory leader Kemi Badenoch said if her party was in government, smartphones would also be banned in schools."
Looks like she is finally getting the gist of opposition after the success of the stamp duty announcement. Leading the news and all that.
Anyone seriously against the proposal, which has been introduced by a Labour govt in Australia, and is supported by NASUWT here in UK? A bit of a move towards Tory patrician instincts and away from purist libertarianism. May be a useful wedge with Reform if they don't follow suit.
Concern for Tories must be that the best you can say about polling is that their vote has stabilised - but still struggling to make even 20%.
It would help a lot with the very specific effects of social media on teenage networks. And it will be popular with voters, because nobody who votes will be inconvenienced at all.
But it's also something of a distraction. The problems caused by SM don't stop at 16. To deal with the poisons, the algorithms and the bots with human names are much more important.
That, and Elon's pervbot system.
On the algorithms - I would recommend that if a site does other than order posting in time sequence, they are legally publishers. So discussion boards of the type of PB are not liable.
This would in turn kill the bots
Text-to-video generators are everywhere now. Open source ones exist. You can run them yourself, either on a hired, cloud hardware. Or increasingly on your home computer. Given the usual rate of progress (ha!) such generators will be available on phones within a couple of years
There’s at least one app I’ve seen in testing which runs the backend in the cloud - you pay for that, but it does all the tech stuff for you.
As I pointed out yesterday, the past week an Israeli company released their totally open source version of text to video that is not only the model weights (which is the norm), they provided full code / instructions to how they trained it. Thus fine tuning it is very straight forward. The rubicon has long since been crossed, wailing about one company you don't like won't fix it.
The number of companies / universities that have quickly produced text to image / text to video models also shows that there is actually not really a moat, there is not really any secret sauce to this that only Google / OpenAI (or even xAI) have. xAI themselves have shown in both LLM and T2I that they have gone from nothing to pretty much on par in 18 months.
I don't think all the moron politicians banging on about xAI realise this.
Following yesterdays discussion I thought I would mention I have just returned from my latest advanced driving lesson. Knackered. Head hurts and sweating. But really good. Concentrating on bends today and getting an automatic to change down in advance. Also expected to change from Eco and Sport for different roads. I normally keep it in Eco all the time so that was new. Sadly the new stuff meant I wasn't so good at the stuff I had previously cracked. Stressful.
And I didn't stop at a single roundabout (light traffic) and was told I shouldn't unless I needed to give way. You need to be looking in advance.
I have heard a lot of people (including driving instructors) saying you shouldn't look ahead at a roundabout unless you are the first car. Because if you are car 2 or later you can't go until the one in front goes anyway. I still maintain you should scan ahead so you are ready to make a decision as soon as the road is clear. Have they said anything about this? (And yes I am getting too many Big Jobber vids on my FB feed)
Should we be having this discussion without HYUFD's informed opinion?
If a motorcycle approaches that roundabout though at 60 to 70mph and you missed it and hit and injured or killed that motorcyclist you would likely be prosecuted and charged with death or injury by careless driving, so your decision if you don't look properly to your right and ahead before moving round a roundabout
If a motorcyclist approaches the roundabout at that speed he, or his cadaver, should be charged with reckless driving.
He won't be if killed or seriously injured, your defence lawyer might try and use his speed as a mitigating factor but unless the motorcylist was doing 90mph or more you would still almost certainly be charged with causing death or serious injury by careless driving
Then the law is an ass.
Fairly sure the motorcyclist joining a roundabout at 60mph would be the one driving without due care or attention. That surely isn't legal driving?
Regardless, if the motorcyclist was killed it would be you in the dock, the most you could do is use the motorcyclist's 60mph as a mitigating factor.
As I said unless a motorcyclist was doing over 90mph the CPS will almost certainly prosecute the driver for killing or seriously injuring them by saying they still should have looked ahead and to their right and checked their mirrors properly for motorcyclists before crossing the motorcyclists's path
You are just making stuff up.
No it is the law, which you are clearly completely ignorant of in these scenarios
It isn't. You are talking utter nonsense hyufd. You have no expertise in this area do you?
How are you responsible for hitting something that it would have been impossible to see when you enter the roundabout. According to your logic you can never cross a give way line because you can't know if something is coming along the road at supersonic speed out of your vision.
On most roundabouts you would never see someone travelling at 70 mph from the lane to the right. It would be completely impossible because your view of the road to the right of you will be blocked by the curvature of the road or trees and houses after anything from 10 - 50 metres. You can usually only see the first few cars in the road to the right on most roundabouts.
Are you a lawyer? No. Do you know the law in this area? Clearly not.
There are plenty of roundabouts with straight line roads coming towards them and if a motorcyclist was doing 70mph and you killed them the obligation would have been on you to triple check for them before moving
But nor are you, Hyufd!
I have legal qualifications, does KJH?
Well actually I do, smartarse.
I have professional qualification in Company law and Common Law
Admittedly not a lot of use here, but you shouldn't be such a smartarse should you and I am guessing your qualifications are not in the laws applicable to driving.
PS and Taxation.
FFS the trans crap is more interesting than this crap on fecking highway code
Don't forget your hand signals! Or does your Scotland's finest Hillman Imp have trafficators?
Just been treated to a bowl of Brussels sprouts soup by my wife.
In fact, two bowls.
Mum made dry Brexit Sprouts curry last week, as well as the more "traditional" Christmas style Brexit Sprouts a week earlier. I actually preferred the former.
You are approaching a roundabout exactly on the Ukraine/Republic of China border. The dashed stop line is exactly on the border. The local speed limit is 50kph
As your wheels touch the line, you perceive a Russian BDRM, driven by a fat, angry ICE agent, entering the roundabout from the right at 70kph+. At the same moment a plane crashes into the centre of the roundabout.
"Tory leader Kemi Badenoch said if her party was in government, smartphones would also be banned in schools."
Looks like she is finally getting the gist of opposition after the success of the stamp duty announcement. Leading the news and all that.
Anyone seriously against the proposal, which has been introduced by a Labour govt in Australia, and is supported by NASUWT here in UK? A bit of a move towards Tory patrician instincts and away from purist libertarianism. May be a useful wedge with Reform if they don't follow suit.
Concern for Tories must be that the best you can say about polling is that their vote has stabilised - but still struggling to make even 20%.
It would help a lot with the very specific effects of social media on teenage networks. And it will be popular with voters, because nobody who votes will be inconvenienced at all.
But it's also something of a distraction. The problems caused by SM don't stop at 16. To deal with the poisons, the algorithms and the bots with human names are much more important.
That, and Elon's pervbot system.
On the algorithms - I would recommend that if a site does other than order posting in time sequence, they are legally publishers. So discussion boards of the type of PB are not liable.
This would in turn kill the bots
Text-to-video generators are everywhere now. Open source ones exist. You can run them yourself, either on a hired, cloud hardware. Or increasingly on your home computer. Given the usual rate of progress (ha!) such generators will be available on phones within a couple of years
There’s at least one app I’ve seen in testing which runs the backend in the cloud - you pay for that, but it does all the tech stuff for you.
Pretty much agree. The problem at the moment is the freedom of typing without any sort of accountability for what you type. Society depends on the balance of the two.
As for the pervbots... they're obviously horrible wherever they are. But if they stay in dingy basements, that's less awful than posting them where anyone can see their outputs. The difference between under the mattress and in the window.
"Tory leader Kemi Badenoch said if her party was in government, smartphones would also be banned in schools."
Looks like she is finally getting the gist of opposition after the success of the stamp duty announcement. Leading the news and all that.
Anyone seriously against the proposal, which has been introduced by a Labour govt in Australia, and is supported by NASUWT here in UK? A bit of a move towards Tory patrician instincts and away from purist libertarianism. May be a useful wedge with Reform if they don't follow suit.
Concern for Tories must be that the best you can say about polling is that their vote has stabilised - but still struggling to make even 20%.
It would help a lot with the very specific effects of social media on teenage networks. And it will be popular with voters, because nobody who votes will be inconvenienced at all.
But it's also something of a distraction. The problems caused by SM don't stop at 16. To deal with the poisons, the algorithms and the bots with human names are much more important.
That, and Elon's pervbot system.
On the algorithms - I would recommend that if a site does other than order posting in time sequence, they are legally publishers. So discussion boards of the type of PB are not liable.
This would in turn kill the bots
Text-to-video generators are everywhere now. Open source ones exist. You can run them yourself, either on a hired, cloud hardware. Or increasingly on your home computer. Given the usual rate of progress (ha!) such generators will be available on phones within a couple of years
There’s at least one app I’ve seen in testing which runs the backend in the cloud - you pay for that, but it does all the tech stuff for you.
Pretty much agree. The problem at the moment is the freedom of typing without any sort of accountability for what you type. Society depends on the balance of the two.
As for the pervbots... they're obviously horrible wherever they are. But if they stay in dingy basements, that's less awful than posting them where anyone can see their outputs. The difference between under the mattress and in the window.
I think you underestimate how widespread and how easy to use generative image / video AI is now.
Apparently he has some legal qualifications but that doesn't stop him talking codswallop
Time to watch football maybe
There was a glorious occasion a couple of years back on which an argument of HYUFD v Everyone on which HYUFD dogmatically and heroically stuck to an indefensible position went into a fourth day. I can't remember the subject but it wasn't one of our usuals.
Martinelli needs to be banned until Conor Bradley plays for Liverpool again.
Conor Bradley, the Liverpool right-back, has been ruled out for the season with the knee injury he suffered against Arsenal.
The 22-year-old escaped an anterior cruciate ligament rupture but nevertheless needs surgery to ligaments and the bone.
There is no exact timescale for his return but he is not expected back this season. The setback leaves Bradley in a race against time to be fit to captain Northern Ireland if they qualify for the World Cup in the summer.
His injury had been a major talking point in the 0-0 draw at the Emirates after Gabriel Martinelli threw the ball at Bradley and manhandled him as he lay on the turf.
Following yesterdays discussion I thought I would mention I have just returned from my latest advanced driving lesson. Knackered. Head hurts and sweating. But really good. Concentrating on bends today and getting an automatic to change down in advance. Also expected to change from Eco and Sport for different roads. I normally keep it in Eco all the time so that was new. Sadly the new stuff meant I wasn't so good at the stuff I had previously cracked. Stressful.
And I didn't stop at a single roundabout (light traffic) and was told I shouldn't unless I needed to give way. You need to be looking in advance.
I have heard a lot of people (including driving instructors) saying you shouldn't look ahead at a roundabout unless you are the first car. Because if you are car 2 or later you can't go until the one in front goes anyway. I still maintain you should scan ahead so you are ready to make a decision as soon as the road is clear. Have they said anything about this? (And yes I am getting too many Big Jobber vids on my FB feed)
Should we be having this discussion without HYUFD's informed opinion?
If a motorcycle approaches that roundabout though at 60 to 70mph and you missed it and hit and injured or killed that motorcyclist you would likely be prosecuted and charged with death or injury by careless driving, so your decision if you don't look properly to your right and ahead before moving round a roundabout
If a motorcyclist approaches the roundabout at that speed he, or his cadaver, should be charged with reckless driving.
He won't be if killed or seriously injured, your defence lawyer might try and use his speed as a mitigating factor but unless the motorcylist was doing 90mph or more you would still almost certainly be charged with causing death or serious injury by careless driving
Then the law is an ass.
Fairly sure the motorcyclist joining a roundabout at 60mph would be the one driving without due care or attention. That surely isn't legal driving?
Regardless, if the motorcyclist was killed it would be you in the dock, the most you could do is use the motorcyclist's 60mph as a mitigating factor.
As I said unless a motorcyclist was doing over 90mph the CPS will almost certainly prosecute the driver for killing or seriously injuring them by saying they still should have looked ahead and to their right and checked their mirrors properly for motorcyclists before crossing the motorcyclists's path
You are just making stuff up.
No it is the law, which you are clearly completely ignorant of in these scenarios
It isn't. You are talking utter nonsense hyufd. You have no expertise in this area do you?
How are you responsible for hitting something that it would have been impossible to see when you enter the roundabout. According to your logic you can never cross a give way line because you can't know if something is coming along the road at supersonic speed out of your vision.
On most roundabouts you would never see someone travelling at 70 mph from the lane to the right. It would be completely impossible because your view of the road to the right of you will be blocked by the curvature of the road or trees and houses after anything from 10 - 50 metres. You can usually only see the first few cars in the road to the right on most roundabouts.
Are you a lawyer? No. Do you know the law in this area? Clearly not.
There are plenty of roundabouts with straight line roads coming towards them and if a motorcyclist was doing 70mph and you killed them the obligation would have been on you to triple check for them before moving
But nor are you, Hyufd!
I have legal qualifications, does KJH?
Well actually I do, smartarse.
I have professional qualification in Company law and Common Law
Admittedly not a lot of use here, but you shouldn't be such a smartarse should you and I am guessing your qualifications are not in the laws applicable to driving.
PS and Taxation.
FFS the trans crap is more interesting than this crap on fecking highway code
Indeed, I popped in to see what was going on. Looks like a swift three-point turn is required.
Following yesterdays discussion I thought I would mention I have just returned from my latest advanced driving lesson. Knackered. Head hurts and sweating. But really good. Concentrating on bends today and getting an automatic to change down in advance. Also expected to change from Eco and Sport for different roads. I normally keep it in Eco all the time so that was new. Sadly the new stuff meant I wasn't so good at the stuff I had previously cracked. Stressful.
And I didn't stop at a single roundabout (light traffic) and was told I shouldn't unless I needed to give way. You need to be looking in advance.
I have heard a lot of people (including driving instructors) saying you shouldn't look ahead at a roundabout unless you are the first car. Because if you are car 2 or later you can't go until the one in front goes anyway. I still maintain you should scan ahead so you are ready to make a decision as soon as the road is clear. Have they said anything about this? (And yes I am getting too many Big Jobber vids on my FB feed)
Should we be having this discussion without HYUFD's informed opinion?
If a motorcycle approaches that roundabout though at 60 to 70mph and you missed it and hit and injured or killed that motorcyclist you would likely be prosecuted and charged with death or injury by careless driving, so your decision if you don't look properly to your right and ahead before moving round a roundabout
If a motorcyclist approaches the roundabout at that speed he, or his cadaver, should be charged with reckless driving.
He won't be if killed or seriously injured, your defence lawyer might try and use his speed as a mitigating factor but unless the motorcylist was doing 90mph or more you would still almost certainly be charged with causing death or serious injury by careless driving
Then the law is an ass.
Fairly sure the motorcyclist joining a roundabout at 60mph would be the one driving without due care or attention. That surely isn't legal driving?
Regardless, if the motorcyclist was killed it would be you in the dock, the most you could do is use the motorcyclist's 60mph as a mitigating factor.
As I said unless a motorcyclist was doing over 90mph the CPS will almost certainly prosecute the driver for killing or seriously injuring them by saying they still should have looked ahead and to their right and checked their mirrors properly for motorcyclists before crossing the motorcyclists's path
You are just making stuff up.
No it is the law, which you are clearly completely ignorant of in these scenarios
It isn't. You are talking utter nonsense hyufd. You have no expertise in this area do you?
How are you responsible for hitting something that it would have been impossible to see when you enter the roundabout. According to your logic you can never cross a give way line because you can't know if something is coming along the road at supersonic speed out of your vision.
On most roundabouts you would never see someone travelling at 70 mph from the lane to the right. It would be completely impossible because your view of the road to the right of you will be blocked by the curvature of the road or trees and houses after anything from 10 - 50 metres. You can usually only see the first few cars in the road to the right on most roundabouts.
Are you a lawyer? No. Do you know the law in this area? Clearly not.
There are plenty of roundabouts with straight line roads coming towards them and if a motorcyclist was doing 70mph and you killed them the obligation would have been on you to triple check for them before moving
But nor are you, Hyufd!
I have legal qualifications, does KJH?
Well actually I do, smartarse.
I have professional qualification in Company law and Common Law
Admittedly not a lot of use here, but you shouldn't be such a smartarse should you and I am guessing your qualifications are not in the laws applicable to driving.
PS and Taxation.
FFS the trans crap is more interesting than this crap on fecking highway code
Indeed, I popped in to see what was going on. Looks like a swift three-point turn is required.
"Tory leader Kemi Badenoch said if her party was in government, smartphones would also be banned in schools."
Looks like she is finally getting the gist of opposition after the success of the stamp duty announcement. Leading the news and all that.
Anyone seriously against the proposal, which has been introduced by a Labour govt in Australia, and is supported by NASUWT here in UK? A bit of a move towards Tory patrician instincts and away from purist libertarianism. May be a useful wedge with Reform if they don't follow suit.
Concern for Tories must be that the best you can say about polling is that their vote has stabilised - but still struggling to make even 20%.
It would help a lot with the very specific effects of social media on teenage networks. And it will be popular with voters, because nobody who votes will be inconvenienced at all.
But it's also something of a distraction. The problems caused by SM don't stop at 16. To deal with the poisons, the algorithms and the bots with human names are much more important.
That, and Elon's pervbot system.
On the algorithms - I would recommend that if a site does other than order posting in time sequence, they are legally publishers. So discussion boards of the type of PB are not liable.
"Tory leader Kemi Badenoch said if her party was in government, smartphones would also be banned in schools."
Looks like she is finally getting the gist of opposition after the success of the stamp duty announcement. Leading the news and all that.
Anyone seriously against the proposal, which has been introduced by a Labour govt in Australia, and is supported by NASUWT here in UK? A bit of a move towards Tory patrician instincts and away from purist libertarianism. May be a useful wedge with Reform if they don't follow suit.
Concern for Tories must be that the best you can say about polling is that their vote has stabilised - but still struggling to make even 20%.
It would help a lot with the very specific effects of social media on teenage networks. And it will be popular with voters, because nobody who votes will be inconvenienced at all.
But it's also something of a distraction. The problems caused by SM don't stop at 16. To deal with the poisons, the algorithms and the bots with human names are much more important.
That, and Elon's pervbot system.
On the algorithms - I would recommend that if a site does other than order posting in time sequence, they are legally publishers. So discussion boards of the type of PB are not liable.
This would in turn kill the bots
Text-to-video generators are everywhere now. Open source ones exist. You can run them yourself, either on a hired, cloud hardware. Or increasingly on your home computer. Given the usual rate of progress (ha!) such generators will be available on phones within a couple of years
There’s at least one app I’ve seen in testing which runs the backend in the cloud - you pay for that, but it does all the tech stuff for you.
Pretty much agree. The problem at the moment is the freedom of typing without any sort of accountability for what you type. Society depends on the balance of the two.
As for the pervbots... they're obviously horrible wherever they are. But if they stay in dingy basements, that's less awful than posting them where anyone can see their outputs. The difference between under the mattress and in the window.
The perv in a basement just clicks to upload.
And he won’t just be in a basement - it will be an app on his phone. Linked to the cloud for compute or local.
For a number of such creatures, getting their work spread across the internet is the point.
My suggestion that all website are publishers, *unless* they only publish subscriber content in date order would do something. In that the social media sites would be liable for the spread of this stuff.
Note that this would make X clearly, legally, liable for this…
You are approaching a roundabout exactly on the Ukraine/Republic of China border. The dashed stop line is exactly on the border. The local speed limit is 50kph
As your wheels touch the line, you perceive a Russian BDRM, driven by a fat, angry ICE agent, entering the roundabout from the right at 70kph+. At the same moment a plane crashes into the centre of the roundabout.
I always find it interesting how much TikTok gets away mostly scot free when the discussion of toxic social media comes up. When it is a Chinese state controlled app whose algorithm is different in China to West and is a dangerous on a number of fronts.
Following yesterdays discussion I thought I would mention I have just returned from my latest advanced driving lesson. Knackered. Head hurts and sweating. But really good. Concentrating on bends today and getting an automatic to change down in advance. Also expected to change from Eco and Sport for different roads. I normally keep it in Eco all the time so that was new. Sadly the new stuff meant I wasn't so good at the stuff I had previously cracked. Stressful.
And I didn't stop at a single roundabout (light traffic) and was told I shouldn't unless I needed to give way. You need to be looking in advance.
I have heard a lot of people (including driving instructors) saying you shouldn't look ahead at a roundabout unless you are the first car. Because if you are car 2 or later you can't go until the one in front goes anyway. I still maintain you should scan ahead so you are ready to make a decision as soon as the road is clear. Have they said anything about this? (And yes I am getting too many Big Jobber vids on my FB feed)
Should we be having this discussion without HYUFD's informed opinion?
If a motorcycle approaches that roundabout though at 60 to 70mph and you missed it and hit and injured or killed that motorcyclist you would likely be prosecuted and charged with death or injury by careless driving, so your decision if you don't look properly to your right and ahead before moving round a roundabout
If a motorcyclist approaches the roundabout at that speed he, or his cadaver, should be charged with reckless driving.
He won't be if killed or seriously injured, your defence lawyer might try and use his speed as a mitigating factor but unless the motorcylist was doing 90mph or more you would still almost certainly be charged with causing death or serious injury by careless driving
Then the law is an ass.
Fairly sure the motorcyclist joining a roundabout at 60mph would be the one driving without due care or attention. That surely isn't legal driving?
Regardless, if the motorcyclist was killed it would be you in the dock, the most you could do is use the motorcyclist's 60mph as a mitigating factor.
As I said unless a motorcyclist was doing over 90mph the CPS will almost certainly prosecute the driver for killing or seriously injuring them by saying they still should have looked ahead and to their right and checked their mirrors properly for motorcyclists before crossing the motorcyclists's path
You are just making stuff up.
No it is the law, which you are clearly completely ignorant of in these scenarios
It isn't. You are talking utter nonsense hyufd. You have no expertise in this area do you?
How are you responsible for hitting something that it would have been impossible to see when you enter the roundabout. According to your logic you can never cross a give way line because you can't know if something is coming along the road at supersonic speed out of your vision.
On most roundabouts you would never see someone travelling at 70 mph from the lane to the right. It would be completely impossible because your view of the road to the right of you will be blocked by the curvature of the road or trees and houses after anything from 10 - 50 metres. You can usually only see the first few cars in the road to the right on most roundabouts.
Are you a lawyer? No. Do you know the law in this area? Clearly not.
There are plenty of roundabouts with straight line roads coming towards them and if a motorcyclist was doing 70mph and you killed them the obligation would have been on you to triple check for them before moving
But nor are you, Hyufd!
I have legal qualifications, does KJH?
Well actually I do, smartarse.
I have professional qualification in Company law and Common Law
Admittedly not a lot of use here, but you shouldn't be such a smartarse should you and I am guessing your qualifications are not in the laws applicable to driving.
PS and Taxation.
FFS the trans crap is more interesting than this crap on fecking highway code
Indeed, I popped in to see what was going on. Looks like a swift three-point turn is required.
Don’t try that if ICE are in the vicinity
Think American - have a couple of snipers armed with 0.5 BMG anti-material rifles on overwatch when you make your turn.
You are approaching a roundabout exactly on the Ukraine/Republic of China border. The dashed stop line is exactly on the border. The local speed limit is 50kph
As your wheels touch the line, you perceive a Russian BDRM, driven by a fat, angry ICE agent, entering the roundabout from the right at 70kph+. At the same moment a plane crashes into the centre of the roundabout.
What is the correct course of action?
Give way?
Silly answer.
Since you are driving a truck, carrying survivors from a previous plane crash, you get your mate on the back to take him out with an NLAW.
Following yesterdays discussion I thought I would mention I have just returned from my latest advanced driving lesson. Knackered. Head hurts and sweating. But really good. Concentrating on bends today and getting an automatic to change down in advance. Also expected to change from Eco and Sport for different roads. I normally keep it in Eco all the time so that was new. Sadly the new stuff meant I wasn't so good at the stuff I had previously cracked. Stressful.
And I didn't stop at a single roundabout (light traffic) and was told I shouldn't unless I needed to give way. You need to be looking in advance.
I have heard a lot of people (including driving instructors) saying you shouldn't look ahead at a roundabout unless you are the first car. Because if you are car 2 or later you can't go until the one in front goes anyway. I still maintain you should scan ahead so you are ready to make a decision as soon as the road is clear. Have they said anything about this? (And yes I am getting too many Big Jobber vids on my FB feed)
Should we be having this discussion without HYUFD's informed opinion?
If a motorcycle approaches that roundabout though at 60 to 70mph and you missed it and hit and injured or killed that motorcyclist you would likely be prosecuted and charged with death or injury by careless driving, so your decision if you don't look properly to your right and ahead before moving round a roundabout
If a motorcyclist approaches the roundabout at that speed he, or his cadaver, should be charged with reckless driving.
He won't be if killed or seriously injured, your defence lawyer might try and use his speed as a mitigating factor but unless the motorcylist was doing 90mph or more you would still almost certainly be charged with causing death or serious injury by careless driving
Then the law is an ass.
Fairly sure the motorcyclist joining a roundabout at 60mph would be the one driving without due care or attention. That surely isn't legal driving?
Regardless, if the motorcyclist was killed it would be you in the dock, the most you could do is use the motorcyclist's 60mph as a mitigating factor.
As I said unless a motorcyclist was doing over 90mph the CPS will almost certainly prosecute the driver for killing or seriously injuring them by saying they still should have looked ahead and to their right and checked their mirrors properly for motorcyclists before crossing the motorcyclists's path
You are just making stuff up.
No it is the law, which you are clearly completely ignorant of in these scenarios
It isn't. You are talking utter nonsense hyufd. You have no expertise in this area do you?
How are you responsible for hitting something that it would have been impossible to see when you enter the roundabout. According to your logic you can never cross a give way line because you can't know if something is coming along the road at supersonic speed out of your vision.
On most roundabouts you would never see someone travelling at 70 mph from the lane to the right. It would be completely impossible because your view of the road to the right of you will be blocked by the curvature of the road or trees and houses after anything from 10 - 50 metres. You can usually only see the first few cars in the road to the right on most roundabouts.
Are you a lawyer? No. Do you know the law in this area? Clearly not.
There are plenty of roundabouts with straight line roads coming towards them and if a motorcyclist was doing 70mph and you killed them the obligation would have been on you to triple check for them before moving
But nor are you, Hyufd!
I have legal qualifications, does KJH?
Well actually I do, smartarse.
I have professional qualification in Company law and Common Law
Admittedly not a lot of use here, but you shouldn't be such a smartarse should you and I am guessing your qualifications are not in the laws applicable to driving.
PS and Taxation.
FFS the trans crap is more interesting than this crap on fecking highway code
Don't forget your hand signals! Or does your Scotland's finest Hillman Imp have trafficators?
My man waves the flag to get the great unwashed out of the way
Following yesterdays discussion I thought I would mention I have just returned from my latest advanced driving lesson. Knackered. Head hurts and sweating. But really good. Concentrating on bends today and getting an automatic to change down in advance. Also expected to change from Eco and Sport for different roads. I normally keep it in Eco all the time so that was new. Sadly the new stuff meant I wasn't so good at the stuff I had previously cracked. Stressful.
And I didn't stop at a single roundabout (light traffic) and was told I shouldn't unless I needed to give way. You need to be looking in advance.
I have heard a lot of people (including driving instructors) saying you shouldn't look ahead at a roundabout unless you are the first car. Because if you are car 2 or later you can't go until the one in front goes anyway. I still maintain you should scan ahead so you are ready to make a decision as soon as the road is clear. Have they said anything about this? (And yes I am getting too many Big Jobber vids on my FB feed)
Should we be having this discussion without HYUFD's informed opinion?
If a motorcycle approaches that roundabout though at 60 to 70mph and you missed it and hit and injured or killed that motorcyclist you would likely be prosecuted and charged with death or injury by careless driving, so your decision if you don't look properly to your right and ahead before moving round a roundabout
If a motorcyclist approaches the roundabout at that speed he, or his cadaver, should be charged with reckless driving.
He won't be if killed or seriously injured, your defence lawyer might try and use his speed as a mitigating factor but unless the motorcylist was doing 90mph or more you would still almost certainly be charged with causing death or serious injury by careless driving
Then the law is an ass.
Fairly sure the motorcyclist joining a roundabout at 60mph would be the one driving without due care or attention. That surely isn't legal driving?
Regardless, if the motorcyclist was killed it would be you in the dock, the most you could do is use the motorcyclist's 60mph as a mitigating factor.
As I said unless a motorcyclist was doing over 90mph the CPS will almost certainly prosecute the driver for killing or seriously injuring them by saying they still should have looked ahead and to their right and checked their mirrors properly for motorcyclists before crossing the motorcyclists's path
You are just making stuff up.
No it is the law, which you are clearly completely ignorant of in these scenarios
It isn't. You are talking utter nonsense hyufd. You have no expertise in this area do you?
How are you responsible for hitting something that it would have been impossible to see when you enter the roundabout. According to your logic you can never cross a give way line because you can't know if something is coming along the road at supersonic speed out of your vision.
On most roundabouts you would never see someone travelling at 70 mph from the lane to the right. It would be completely impossible because your view of the road to the right of you will be blocked by the curvature of the road or trees and houses after anything from 10 - 50 metres. You can usually only see the first few cars in the road to the right on most roundabouts.
Are you a lawyer? No. Do you know the law in this area? Clearly not.
There are plenty of roundabouts with straight line roads coming towards them and if a motorcyclist was doing 70mph and you killed them the obligation would have been on you to triple check for them before moving
But nor are you, Hyufd!
I have legal qualifications, does KJH?
Well actually I do, smartarse.
I have professional qualification in Company law and Common Law
Admittedly not a lot of use here, but you shouldn't be such a smartarse should you and I am guessing your qualifications are not in the laws applicable to driving.
PS and Taxation.
FFS the trans crap is more interesting than this crap on fecking highway code
Don't forget your hand signals! Or does your Scotland's finest Hillman Imp have trafficators?
That takes me back. I remember being driven in a friend's Imp. He had to drop it into first to get up a not particularly steep hill.
You are approaching a roundabout exactly on the Ukraine/Republic of China border. The dashed stop line is exactly on the border. The local speed limit is 50kph
As your wheels touch the line, you perceive a Russian BDRM, driven by a fat, angry ICE agent, entering the roundabout from the right at 70kph+. At the same moment a plane crashes into the centre of the roundabout.
Apparently he has some legal qualifications but that doesn't stop him talking codswallop
Time to watch football maybe
There was a glorious occasion a couple of years back on which an argument of HYUFD v Everyone on which HYUFD dogmatically and heroically stuck to an indefensible position went into a fourth day. I can't remember the subject but it wasn't one of our usuals.
{it’s 2030 and the Russians have invaded Lithuania}
Russian General : What’s holding up the advance? Why are we stuck at Raseiniai? Officer : There’s one man in a British WWII tank, parked on a roundabout. Anyone comes up to the stop line, he engages. General : 4 days!!! Officer : There’s no shifting him. He keeps shouting stuff about traffic laws.
Apparently he has some legal qualifications but that doesn't stop him talking codswallop
Time to watch football maybe
There was a glorious occasion a couple of years back on which an argument of HYUFD v Everyone on which HYUFD dogmatically and heroically stuck to an indefensible position went into a fourth day. I can't remember the subject but it wasn't one of our usuals.
We've already reached the 'Sir, he started it' phase, so I'm hoping it runs out of steam.
After the success of last week's turnip soup, today we are having turnip and celeriac soup.
Time to start chopping vegetables.
Are we talking Turnips or Swedes? It was after 20 years of marriage to a Scot that we found we were talking at cross purposes regarding Swedes/Turnips for all that time. It was a defining moment in our marriage.
I always find it interesting how much TikTok gets away mostly scot free when the discussion of toxic social media comes up. When it is a Chinese state controlled app whose algorithm is different in China to West and is a dangerous on a number of fronts.
At least they're not yet calling for regime change in the UK because we tried to to regulate them, as Musk is.
Apparently he has some legal qualifications but that doesn't stop him talking codswallop
Time to watch football maybe
There was a glorious occasion a couple of years back on which an argument of HYUFD v Everyone on which HYUFD dogmatically and heroically stuck to an indefensible position went into a fourth day. I can't remember the subject but it wasn't one of our usuals.
{it’s 2030 and the Russians have invaded Lithuania}
Russian General : What’s holding up the advance? Why are we stuck at Raseiniai? Officer : There’s one man in a British WWII tank, parked on a roundabout. Anyone comes up to the stop line, he engages. General : 4 days!!! Officer : There’s no shifting him. He keeps shouting stuff about traffic laws.
I always find it interesting how much TikTok gets away mostly scot free when the discussion of toxic social media comes up. When it is a Chinese state controlled app whose algorithm is different in China to West and is a dangerous on a number of fronts.
At least they're not yet calling for regime change in the UK because we tried to to regulate them, as Musk is.
I think the Chinese are just more subtle about sowing disunity. They have taken the GRU playbook and turned into a combination of spyware, brain rot and radicalisation app.
Rather interestingly I went on the "For You" tab of X, which I basically never do as I have what I need via careful follower list. It is now stuffed full of posts from Chinese sock puppets when it didn't used to be. I presume something to do with having been in China.
After the success of last week's turnip soup, today we are having turnip and celeriac soup.
Time to start chopping vegetables.
Are we talking Turnips or Swedes? It was after 20 years of marriage to a Scot that we found we were talking at cross purposes regarding Swedes/Turnips for all that time. It was a defining moment in our marriage.
You thought she was talking about how much she liked a nice firm turnip and you discover she was talking about a Swede? I can see that being a problem.
After the success of last week's turnip soup, today we are having turnip and celeriac soup.
Time to start chopping vegetables.
Are we talking Turnips or Swedes? It was after 20 years of marriage to a Scot that we found we were talking at cross purposes regarding Swedes/Turnips for all that time. It was a defining moment in our marriage.
You thought she was talking about how much she liked a nice firm turnip and you discover she was talking about a Swede? I can see that being a problem.
I always find it interesting how much TikTok gets away mostly scot free when the discussion of toxic social media comes up. When it is a Chinese state controlled app whose algorithm is different in China to West and is a dangerous on a number of fronts.
At least they're not yet calling for regime change in the UK because we tried to to regulate them, as Musk is.
I think the Chinese are just more subtle about sowing disunity. They have taken the GRU playbook and turned into a combination of spyware, brain rot and radicalisation app.
Rather interestingly I went on the "For You" tab of X, which I basically never do as I have what I need via careful follower list. It is now stuffed full of posts from Chinese sock puppets.
Anyone have a clue why the Iranians have a thing for fake Scot Nat Bots?
I just had roast pheasants with bacon and bread sauce, with roasted butternut squash, carrots and parsnips, and roast potatoes, followed by a morello cherry and vanilla tart with ice cream.
"Tory leader Kemi Badenoch said if her party was in government, smartphones would also be banned in schools."
Looks like she is finally getting the gist of opposition after the success of the stamp duty announcement. Leading the news and all that.
Anyone seriously against the proposal, which has been introduced by a Labour govt in Australia, and is supported by NASUWT here in UK? A bit of a move towards Tory patrician instincts and away from purist libertarianism. May be a useful wedge with Reform if they don't follow suit.
Concern for Tories must be that the best you can say about polling is that their vote has stabilised - but still struggling to make even 20%.
It would help a lot with the very specific effects of social media on teenage networks. And it will be popular with voters, because nobody who votes will be inconvenienced at all.
But it's also something of a distraction. The problems caused by SM don't stop at 16. To deal with the poisons, the algorithms and the bots with human names are much more important.
That, and Elon's pervbot system.
Kemi will need to have done her homework on school phone bans or risk being tripped up on the details. For instance, what are the logistics? Will the school take possession of pupils' phones each morning? If so, how will it store them securely? How will it return the right phones to the right pupils and who will be liable when phones inevitably go missing or are damaged?
After the success of last week's turnip soup, today we are having turnip and celeriac soup.
Time to start chopping vegetables.
Are we talking Turnips or Swedes? It was after 20 years of marriage to a Scot that we found we were talking at cross purposes regarding Swedes/Turnips for all that time. It was a defining moment in our marriage.
They're all turnips as far as I'm concerned. The shop did mistakenly refer to them as Swedes, however.
This is the type we used to use for Halloween lanterns. None of this posho pumpkin nonsense back in the day.
"Tory leader Kemi Badenoch said if her party was in government, smartphones would also be banned in schools."
Looks like she is finally getting the gist of opposition after the success of the stamp duty announcement. Leading the news and all that.
Anyone seriously against the proposal, which has been introduced by a Labour govt in Australia, and is supported by NASUWT here in UK? A bit of a move towards Tory patrician instincts and away from purist libertarianism. May be a useful wedge with Reform if they don't follow suit.
Concern for Tories must be that the best you can say about polling is that their vote has stabilised - but still struggling to make even 20%.
It would help a lot with the very specific effects of social media on teenage networks. And it will be popular with voters, because nobody who votes will be inconvenienced at all.
But it's also something of a distraction. The problems caused by SM don't stop at 16. To deal with the poisons, the algorithms and the bots with human names are much more important.
That, and Elon's pervbot system.
Kemi will need to have done her homework on school phone bans or risk being tripped up on the details. For instance, what are the logistics? Will the school take possession of pupils' phones each morning? If so, how will it store them securely? How will it return the right phones to the right pupils and who will be liable when phones inevitably go missing or are damaged?
A large number of schools, in the U.K., already take phones off children for the day.
Looks like the Iranian regime might have enough people willing to massacre civilians to tough out the current wave of protests. Unless someone senior in the military switches sides, or the top levels of the regime panic and flee, I think the protestors are going to fall short.
It seems that last night didn't show any advance on the previous day for the protests in terms of momentum and, being mostly unarmed civilians, the confidence that comes from momentum is the only weapon they have to break the will of the regime.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think this ends with many thousands of civilians dead and the regime still in charge.
"Tory leader Kemi Badenoch said if her party was in government, smartphones would also be banned in schools."
Looks like she is finally getting the gist of opposition after the success of the stamp duty announcement. Leading the news and all that.
Anyone seriously against the proposal, which has been introduced by a Labour govt in Australia, and is supported by NASUWT here in UK? A bit of a move towards Tory patrician instincts and away from purist libertarianism. May be a useful wedge with Reform if they don't follow suit.
Concern for Tories must be that the best you can say about polling is that their vote has stabilised - but still struggling to make even 20%.
It would help a lot with the very specific effects of social media on teenage networks. And it will be popular with voters, because nobody who votes will be inconvenienced at all.
But it's also something of a distraction. The problems caused by SM don't stop at 16. To deal with the poisons, the algorithms and the bots with human names are much more important.
That, and Elon's pervbot system.
Kemi will need to have done her homework on school phone bans or risk being tripped up on the details. For instance, what are the logistics? Will the school take possession of pupils' phones each morning? If so, how will it store them securely? How will it return the right phones to the right pupils and who will be liable when phones inevitably go missing or are damaged?
Plenty of schools manage phones fine already.
The problem with teen social media isn't so much what happens between 9 am and 3.30 pm, as between 3.30 pm and 9 am.
(It's why cyberbullying is so nasty; in the old days, school bullies could only really get at their victims during weekday daytimes. Now, it's a 24/7 operation.)
I just had roast pheasants with bacon and bread sauce, with roasted butternut squash, carrots and parsnips, and roast potatoes, followed by a morello cherry and vanilla tart with ice cream.
Apparently he has some legal qualifications but that doesn't stop him talking codswallop
Time to watch football maybe
There was a glorious occasion a couple of years back on which an argument of HYUFD v Everyone on which HYUFD dogmatically and heroically stuck to an indefensible position went into a fourth day. I can't remember the subject but it wasn't one of our usuals.
It might have been the time he muddled the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea, or the time having read a bus timetable and misunderstood it he became convinced of the existence of an Ullapool to Inverness ferry.
Lord Mandelson has said he never saw girls at Jeffrey Epstein's properties, and declined to apologise to the late paedophile's victims for maintaining his friendship with the American because he was not "knowledgeable of what he was doing".
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
I've just been searching for a solicitor to draft my will, using the Law Society's website to direct me to local firms' websites, a surprising number of which seem to be inoperative!
But one in particular came up with the normal I'm not a robot verification pop-up followed by this screen:-
Anyone following these reasonable-looking instructions on an actual law firm's website would likely infect their machine. The scam instructions use win+r to open a command prompt, followed by control-v to paste into it devilish instructions. Stay safe, everyone.
You'd think the Law Society would take a dim view of this sort of thing but apparently regard it as someone else's problem, much like our expensive but ineffective National Cyber Security Centre.
After the success of last week's turnip soup, today we are having turnip and celeriac soup.
Time to start chopping vegetables.
Are we talking Turnips or Swedes? It was after 20 years of marriage to a Scot that we found we were talking at cross purposes regarding Swedes/Turnips for all that time. It was a defining moment in our marriage.
They're all turnips as far as I'm concerned. The shop did mistakenly refer to them as Swedes, however.
This is the type we used to use for Halloween lanterns. None of this posho pumpkin nonsense back in the day.
You are obviously related to my wife. Where in Scotland are you? Same with her and lanterns. I appreciate it makes life simpler using the same word for different veg, but it confused the life out of me for a long time.
"Tory leader Kemi Badenoch said if her party was in government, smartphones would also be banned in schools."
Looks like she is finally getting the gist of opposition after the success of the stamp duty announcement. Leading the news and all that.
Anyone seriously against the proposal, which has been introduced by a Labour govt in Australia, and is supported by NASUWT here in UK? A bit of a move towards Tory patrician instincts and away from purist libertarianism. May be a useful wedge with Reform if they don't follow suit.
Concern for Tories must be that the best you can say about polling is that their vote has stabilised - but still struggling to make even 20%.
It would help a lot with the very specific effects of social media on teenage networks. And it will be popular with voters, because nobody who votes will be inconvenienced at all.
But it's also something of a distraction. The problems caused by SM don't stop at 16. To deal with the poisons, the algorithms and the bots with human names are much more important.
That, and Elon's pervbot system.
Kemi will need to have done her homework on school phone bans or risk being tripped up on the details. For instance, what are the logistics? Will the school take possession of pupils' phones each morning? If so, how will it store them securely? How will it return the right phones to the right pupils and who will be liable when phones inevitably go missing or are damaged?
A large number of schools, in the U.K., already take phones off children for the day.
I'm sure they do. My point is that Kemi needs to have considered the logistics before being interviewed on the subject.
Lord Mandelson has said he never saw girls at Jeffrey Epstein's properties, and declined to apologise to the late paedophile's victims for maintaining his friendship with the American because he was not "knowledgeable of what he was doing".
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
Mandelson loved the company of the rich and powerful. Epstein's MO involved gathering together the rich and powerful. That is enough to explain their entanglement without requiring an out gay man to have been seduced by attractive young women.
Lord Mandelson has said he never saw girls at Jeffrey Epstein's properties, and declined to apologise to the late paedophile's victims for maintaining his friendship with the American because he was not "knowledgeable of what he was doing".
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
Mandelson loved the company of the rich and powerful. Epstein's MO involved gathering together the rich and powerful. That is enough to explain their entanglement without requiring an out gay man to have been seduced by attractive young women.
Various tech bros (who are also gay) have come out and said Epstein starting turning up at all their parties as well. Always trying to get involved in their businesses, promising investments and introductions.
Its for me why you don't to have tin foil hatter to think perhaps there was a bit more going on than him just being a twisted paedo.
I've been cited for jury duty beginning of February. Never been cited before. Should be, um, "interesting".
Conscripted, you mean! I've been called up twice, 1994 and 2006.
My one stint of jury service involved repeatedly calling a telephone number to listen to a recorded message telling me I wasn't required that day and to phone back the next day - and all the superfluous paperwork so that I'd be paid when off work, which it turned out I never was.
Lord Mandelson has said he never saw girls at Jeffrey Epstein's properties, and declined to apologise to the late paedophile's victims for maintaining his friendship with the American because he was not "knowledgeable of what he was doing".
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
"Googling is really hard, you know. And the Palm Beach police, they wouldn't have let him off without good reason."
Lord Mandelson has said he never saw girls at Jeffrey Epstein's properties, and declined to apologise to the late paedophile's victims for maintaining his friendship with the American because he was not "knowledgeable of what he was doing".
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
"Googling is really hard, you know. And the Palm Beach police, they wouldn't have let him off without good reason."
LOL. Its hardly like you met this random bloke down the pub who is new to the area and a nobody, and after becaming mates only to find out later he was a wrong'un. But that seems to be Peties claims.
Lord Mandelson has said he never saw girls at Jeffrey Epstein's properties, and declined to apologise to the late paedophile's victims for maintaining his friendship with the American because he was not "knowledgeable of what he was doing".
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
"Googling is really hard, you know. And the Palm Beach police, they wouldn't have let him off without good reason."
LOL. Its hardly like you met this random bloke down the pub who is new to the area and a nobody, and after becaming mates only to find out later he was a wrong'un. But that seems to be Peties claims.
1) Lord M carried on meeting Epstein after Epstein’s original conviction. 2) He even sent messages of sympathy about Epstein’s “legal predicament”
Lord Mandelson has said he never saw girls at Jeffrey Epstein's properties, and declined to apologise to the late paedophile's victims for maintaining his friendship with the American because he was not "knowledgeable of what he was doing".
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
"Googling is really hard, you know. And the Palm Beach police, they wouldn't have let him off without good reason."
LOL. Its hardly like you met this random bloke down the pub who is new to the area and a nobody, and after becaming mates only to find out later he was a wrong'un. But that seems to be Peties claims.
1) Lord M carried on meeting Epstein after Epstein’s original conviction. 2) He even sent messages of sympathy about Epstein’s “legal predicament”
You might think that, we might have the evidence, but like the photo of Petie with a girl at a Epstein property, it never happened....I think that is Pete's position.
"Tory leader Kemi Badenoch said if her party was in government, smartphones would also be banned in schools." Looks like she is finally getting the gist of opposition after the success of the stamp duty announcement. Leading the news and all that.
Anyone seriously against the proposal, which has been introduced by a Labour govt in Australia, and is supported by NASUWT here in UK? A bit of a move towards Tory patrician instincts and away from purist libertarianism. May be a useful wedge with Reform if they don't follow suit.
Concern for Tories must be that the best you can say about polling is that their vote has stabilised - but still struggling to make even 20%.
It would help a lot with the very specific effects of social media on teenage networks. And it will be popular with voters, because nobody who votes will be inconvenienced at all.
But it's also something of a distraction. The problems caused by SM don't stop at 16. To deal with the poisons, the algorithms and the bots with human names are much more important.
That, and Elon's pervbot system.
Kemi will need to have done her homework on school phone bans or risk being tripped up on the details. For instance, what are the logistics? Will the school take possession of pupils' phones each morning? If so, how will it store them securely? How will it return the right phones to the right pupils and who will be liable when phones inevitably go missing or are damaged?
A large number of schools, in the U.K., already take phones off children for the day.
Quite. I’ve never understood the controversy here. My kid’s primary school simply took possession of phones during the school day & returned them at the end of the day. Their secondary school confiscated any phone seen out in the corridor or classroom.
In neither of these schools were these policies regarded as controversial or difficult.
Is this one of those things that varies wildly by region?
"Tory leader Kemi Badenoch said if her party was in government, smartphones would also be banned in schools." Looks like she is finally getting the gist of opposition after the success of the stamp duty announcement. Leading the news and all that.
Anyone seriously against the proposal, which has been introduced by a Labour govt in Australia, and is supported by NASUWT here in UK? A bit of a move towards Tory patrician instincts and away from purist libertarianism. May be a useful wedge with Reform if they don't follow suit.
Concern for Tories must be that the best you can say about polling is that their vote has stabilised - but still struggling to make even 20%.
It would help a lot with the very specific effects of social media on teenage networks. And it will be popular with voters, because nobody who votes will be inconvenienced at all.
But it's also something of a distraction. The problems caused by SM don't stop at 16. To deal with the poisons, the algorithms and the bots with human names are much more important.
That, and Elon's pervbot system.
Kemi will need to have done her homework on school phone bans or risk being tripped up on the details. For instance, what are the logistics? Will the school take possession of pupils' phones each morning? If so, how will it store them securely? How will it return the right phones to the right pupils and who will be liable when phones inevitably go missing or are damaged?
A large number of schools, in the U.K., already take phones off children for the day.
Quite. I’ve never understood the controversy here. My kid’s primary school simply took possession of phones during the school day & returned them at the end of the day. Their secondary school confiscated any phone seen out in the corridor or classroom.
In neither of these schools were these policies regarded as controversial or difficult.
Is this one of those things that varies wildly by region?
Like school buses - they can’t possibly work. Apart from the numerous existing examples
A principled stance by Turner calling the by election to back jury trials and he may think he has more chance of holding his Hull seat now as a high profile independent than as a Labour candidate at the next general election, where Reform are forecast to win the 72% Leave Hull East constituency.
Currently EC has Reform winning 45% in the seat with Labour on 19%, the Greens 11%, the Tories 9% and LDs 7%.
So even if there is a by election and Reform win it Starmer won't face too much of a threat as Labour are likely to beat the Greens and LDs still. Even the university is in Hull North not East, so there won't even be much of a student/academic vote for the Greens and LDs to squeeze. If Turner splits the Labour vote further that can be explained as unique circumstances https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/seatdetails.py?seat=Hull East
Hmm. Reform will obviously walk it. And I think Labour will crash down to at least third place. Greens and LibDems will attempt the Plaid trick in Caerphilly 0f being the stop-Reform option, though with less success. Either way a disaster for Starmer.
The Greens and LDs might try but the demographics of Hull East are different to Caerphilly.
Caerphilly was suburban Cardiff in much of the seat, 52% middle class ABC1 and was only 56% Leave and had 44% of voters as graduates and with a good education.
By contrast Hull East is overwhelmingly white working class, 63% C2DE with only 35% of the seat graduates and with a good education and which was 72% Leave.
I would expect Reform to win Hull East by a landslide but with Labour or an Independent Turner still second
Technically none of Caerphilly is suburban Cardiff though there will be a fair bit of commuter traffic day to day.
Can we just have some appreciation for a Labour MP who seems to be in favour of holding elections.
I've been cited for jury duty beginning of February. Never been cited before. Should be, um, "interesting".
Conscripted, you mean! I've been called up twice, 1994 and 2006.
My one stint of jury service involved repeatedly calling a telephone number to listen to a recorded message telling me I wasn't required that day and to phone back the next day - and all the superfluous paperwork so that I'd be paid when off work, which it turned out I never was.
I was cited a few months ago but managed to get excused on grounds of age. Having been a Childrens Panel member for 11 years, I have served my time, so don’t feel guilty. I wish I had accepted my call up, though. I might have been able to adjudicate on HYUFD being hit by a motorist when he was travelling round a roundabout at 70mph on his motorcycle. Edit: I would have found HYUFD not guilty on grounds of diminished responsibility as he’s clearly round the bend!
Lord Mandelson has said he never saw girls at Jeffrey Epstein's properties, and declined to apologise to the late paedophile's victims for maintaining his friendship with the American because he was not "knowledgeable of what he was doing".
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
"Googling is really hard, you know. And the Palm Beach police, they wouldn't have let him off without good reason."
LOL. Its hardly like you met this random bloke down the pub who is new to the area and a nobody, and after becaming mates only to find out later he was a wrong'un. But that seems to be Peties claims.
1) Lord M carried on meeting Epstein after Epstein’s original conviction. 2) He even sent messages of sympathy about Epstein’s “legal predicament”
You might think that, we might have the evidence, but like the photo of Petie with a girl at a Epstein property, it never happened....I think that is Pete's position.
Afternoon all. No reason why Mandelson shouldn’t have sent a message of sympathy to Epstein after the latter’s conviction. With a goodbye. But nothing more than that.
I've been cited for jury duty beginning of February. Never been cited before. Should be, um, "interesting".
Conscripted, you mean! I've been called up twice, 1994 and 2006.
My one stint of jury service involved repeatedly calling a telephone number to listen to a recorded message telling me I wasn't required that day and to phone back the next day - and all the superfluous paperwork so that I'd be paid when off work, which it turned out I never was.
I was cited a few months ago but managed to get excused on grounds of age. Having been a Childrens Panel member for 11 years, I have served my time, so don’t feel guilty. I wish I had accepted my call up, though. I might have been able to adjudicate on HYUFD being hit by a motorist when he was travelling round a roundabout at 70mph on his motorcycle. Edit: I would have found HYUFD not guilty on grounds of diminished responsibility as he’s clearly round the bend!
Laughed out loud.
I was called once but got excused for work reasons. In reality I would have loved to do it, but it just wasn't possible.
Well done on the children's panel. Had never heard of it until now. I am impressed.
I always find it interesting how much TikTok gets away mostly scot free when the discussion of toxic social media comes up. When it is a Chinese state controlled app whose algorithm is different in China to West and is a dangerous on a number of fronts.
At least they're not yet calling for regime change in the UK because we tried to to regulate them, as Musk is.
I think the Chinese are just more subtle about sowing disunity. They have taken the GRU playbook and turned into a combination of spyware, brain rot and radicalisation app.
Rather interestingly I went on the "For You" tab of X, which I basically never do as I have what I need via careful follower list. It is now stuffed full of posts from Chinese sock puppets when it didn't used to be. I presume something to do with having been in China.
Oh, I'm not making a case in favour of China (though we have to deal with them just as we do with the US). I'm just pointing out that Musk is using his platform and tens of millions of followers to call for the immediate dissolution of the UK government.
Lord Mandelson has said he never saw girls at Jeffrey Epstein's properties, and declined to apologise to the late paedophile's victims for maintaining his friendship with the American because he was not "knowledgeable of what he was doing".
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
"Googling is really hard, you know. And the Palm Beach police, they wouldn't have let him off without good reason."
LOL. Its hardly like you met this random bloke down the pub who is new to the area and a nobody, and after becaming mates only to find out later he was a wrong'un. But that seems to be Peties claims.
1) Lord M carried on meeting Epstein after Epstein’s original conviction. 2) He even sent messages of sympathy about Epstein’s “legal predicament”
You might think that, we might have the evidence, but like the photo of Petie with a girl at a Epstein property, it never happened....I think that is Pete's position.
Afternoon all. No reason why Mandelson shouldn’t have sent a message of sympathy to Epstein after the latter’s conviction. With a goodbye. But nothing more than that.
Lord Mandelson has said he never saw girls at Jeffrey Epstein's properties, and declined to apologise to the late paedophile's victims for maintaining his friendship with the American because he was not "knowledgeable of what he was doing".
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
I think it highly unlikely Epstein procured young girls for His Lordship, however I don't believe "I'm gay" is of itself an adequate defence. Remember the Lufthansa mnemonic: "Let us f*** the hostesses as no stewards available".
Although I think that his Lordship misses the point. Remaining mates with a convicted nonce, as Andrew Windsor found out, is an enormous error of judgement.
Shuttered my personal Twitter account. Too many worms eating into my brain. Will just use my YouTube Twitter profile.
Did have a brief look over at BlueSky. What a waste of time that place is...
If you go here https://bsky.app/profile/mattwardman.bsky.social and click on the tab that says "starter packs" you can see a starter pack containing many people involved in political betting, including some people on PB.
Lord Mandelson has said he never saw girls at Jeffrey Epstein's properties, and declined to apologise to the late paedophile's victims for maintaining his friendship with the American because he was not "knowledgeable of what he was doing".
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
Mandelson loved the company of the rich and powerful. Epstein's MO involved gathering together the rich and powerful. That is enough to explain their entanglement without requiring an out gay man to have been seduced by attractive young women.
Various tech bros (who are also gay) have come out and said Epstein starting turning up at all their parties as well. Always trying to get involved in their businesses, promising investments and introductions.
Its for me why you don't to have tin foil hatter to think perhaps there was a bit more going on than him just being a twisted paedo.
There appears to have been. There's a lot of detail on Russian money in the files.
Lord Mandelson has said he never saw girls at Jeffrey Epstein's properties, and declined to apologise to the late paedophile's victims for maintaining his friendship with the American because he was not "knowledgeable of what he was doing".
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
"Googling is really hard, you know. And the Palm Beach police, they wouldn't have let him off without good reason."
LOL. Its hardly like you met this random bloke down the pub who is new to the area and a nobody, and after becaming mates only to find out later he was a wrong'un. But that seems to be Peties claims.
1) Lord M carried on meeting Epstein after Epstein’s original conviction. 2) He even sent messages of sympathy about Epstein’s “legal predicament”
You might think that, we might have the evidence, but like the photo of Petie with a girl at a Epstein property, it never happened....I think that is Pete's position.
Afternoon all. No reason why Mandelson shouldn’t have sent a message of sympathy to Epstein after the latter’s conviction. With a goodbye. But nothing more than that.
Really?
I know it’s inappropriate, but Christian charity. Shed a tear over the failings and all that.
Shuttered my personal Twitter account. Too many worms eating into my brain. Will just use my YouTube Twitter profile.
Did have a brief look over at BlueSky. What a waste of time that place is...
If you go here https://bsky.app/profile/mattwardman.bsky.social and click on the tab that says "starter packs" you can see a starter pack containing many people involved in political betting, including some people on PB.
If you wanna know how much can change in 5 years, back In 2019 these guys said they couldn’t breathe in a mask, but now they can’t shoot a woman in the head 3 times without one! https://x.com/CoreyRForrester/status/2010133373264794085
After the success of last week's turnip soup, today we are having turnip and celeriac soup.
Time to start chopping vegetables.
Are we talking Turnips or Swedes? It was after 20 years of marriage to a Scot that we found we were talking at cross purposes regarding Swedes/Turnips for all that time. It was a defining moment in our marriage.
They're all turnips as far as I'm concerned. The shop did mistakenly refer to them as Swedes, however.
This is the type we used to use for Halloween lanterns. None of this posho pumpkin nonsense back in the day.
You are obviously related to my wife. Where in Scotland are you? Same with her and lanterns. I appreciate it makes life simpler using the same word for different veg, but it confused the life out of me for a long time.
Not Scotland. Turnips are Turnips in NE England too.
I'll remind everyone that the full name of Swede is Swedish Turnip.
After the success of last week's turnip soup, today we are having turnip and celeriac soup.
Time to start chopping vegetables.
Are we talking Turnips or Swedes? It was after 20 years of marriage to a Scot that we found we were talking at cross purposes regarding Swedes/Turnips for all that time. It was a defining moment in our marriage.
They're all turnips as far as I'm concerned. The shop did mistakenly refer to them as Swedes, however.
This is the type we used to use for Halloween lanterns. None of this posho pumpkin nonsense back in the day.
You are obviously related to my wife. Where in Scotland are you? Same with her and lanterns. I appreciate it makes life simpler using the same word for different veg, but it confused the life out of me for a long time.
Not Scotland. Turnips are Turnips in NE England too.
I'll remind everyone that the full name of Swede is Swedish Turnip.
Or Swede for short
I'm in Surrey so NE England/Scotland is just splitting hairs.
After the success of last week's turnip soup, today we are having turnip and celeriac soup.
Time to start chopping vegetables.
Are we talking Turnips or Swedes? It was after 20 years of marriage to a Scot that we found we were talking at cross purposes regarding Swedes/Turnips for all that time. It was a defining moment in our marriage.
They're all turnips as far as I'm concerned. The shop did mistakenly refer to them as Swedes, however.
This is the type we used to use for Halloween lanterns. None of this posho pumpkin nonsense back in the day.
You are obviously related to my wife. Where in Scotland are you? Same with her and lanterns. I appreciate it makes life simpler using the same word for different veg, but it confused the life out of me for a long time.
Not Scotland. Turnips are Turnips in NE England too.
I'll remind everyone that the full name of Swede is Swedish Turnip.
Or Swede for short
I'm in Surrey so NE England/Scotland is just splitting hairs.
A principled stance by Turner calling the by election to back jury trials and he may think he has more chance of holding his Hull seat now as a high profile independent than as a Labour candidate at the next general election, where Reform are forecast to win the 72% Leave Hull East constituency.
Currently EC has Reform winning 45% in the seat with Labour on 19%, the Greens 11%, the Tories 9% and LDs 7%.
So even if there is a by election and Reform win it Starmer won't face too much of a threat as Labour are likely to beat the Greens and LDs still. Even the university is in Hull North not East, so there won't even be much of a student/academic vote for the Greens and LDs to squeeze. If Turner splits the Labour vote further that can be explained as unique circumstances https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/seatdetails.py?seat=Hull East
Hmm. Reform will obviously walk it. And I think Labour will crash down to at least third place. Greens and LibDems will attempt the Plaid trick in Caerphilly 0f being the stop-Reform option, though with less success. Either way a disaster for Starmer.
The Greens and LDs might try but the demographics of Hull East are different to Caerphilly.
Caerphilly was suburban Cardiff in much of the seat, 52% middle class ABC1 and was only 56% Leave and had 44% of voters as graduates and with a good education.
By contrast Hull East is overwhelmingly white working class, 63% C2DE with only 35% of the seat graduates and with a good education and which was 72% Leave.
I would expect Reform to win Hull East by a landslide but with Labour or an Independent Turner still second
Technically none of Caerphilly is suburban Cardiff though there will be a fair bit of commuter traffic day to day.
Can we just have some appreciation for a Labour MP who seems to be in favour of holding elections.
Just a gentle reminder that Hull City Council is under majority Lib Dem control. there are no Reform councilors at all. So on the ground the Lib Dems will be well dug in, and, if the voters decide that Reform are indeed a bunch of American and Russian funded chancers, there is a clear alternative- and so I would be quite careful about putting my bawbies on the Reform nag- Tykes are not the same as Yellowbellies, even if they are now linked by a large bridge.
Time to call up Private Eye's Apocalypse correspondent Hellena Handcart.........
You have to hand it to the last Tory administration they left the nation ungovernable as we will also see with the advent of a Reform government next time around, but this Government have fallen into every bear trap the Tories set for them and they have even fallen into some of their own.
Starmer needs to be sat down and told the home truth that as Prime Minister he just isn't very good. And unlike similarly qualified Tory Prime Ministers he has no tame Newspaper Editors to hide behind.
For the love of God- go man!
Blair who is the best template for a Labour leader used the well tried formula of testing public opinion and then giving them what they wanted or at worst making sure he didn't force on them what they didn't want. Abracadabra we had a Party who shared the values of the rest of us.
How big a department Philip Gould had I have no idea but it should have been Starmer's starting point. If you don't test public opinion-and thar doesn't mean reading the Daily Mail- you can't take the public with you
Yesterday I heard that Starmer had U-turned 12 times in a year and a half
I heard that as "12 Uturns of Christmas" on GBNews:
Lord Mandelson has said he never saw girls at Jeffrey Epstein's properties, and declined to apologise to the late paedophile's victims for maintaining his friendship with the American because he was not "knowledgeable of what he was doing".
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
"Googling is really hard, you know. And the Palm Beach police, they wouldn't have let him off without good reason."
LOL. Its hardly like you met this random bloke down the pub who is new to the area and a nobody, and after becaming mates only to find out later he was a wrong'un. But that seems to be Peties claims.
1) Lord M carried on meeting Epstein after Epstein’s original conviction. 2) He even sent messages of sympathy about Epstein’s “legal predicament”
You might think that, we might have the evidence, but like the photo of Petie with a girl at a Epstein property, it never happened....I think that is Pete's position.
Afternoon all. No reason why Mandelson shouldn’t have sent a message of sympathy to Epstein after the latter’s conviction. With a goodbye. But nothing more than that.
Really?
I know it’s inappropriate, but Christian charity. Shed a tear over the failings and all that.
Send him $5 for the prison commissary and card hoping he learns his lesson and reforms?
After the success of last week's turnip soup, today we are having turnip and celeriac soup.
Time to start chopping vegetables.
Are we talking Turnips or Swedes? It was after 20 years of marriage to a Scot that we found we were talking at cross purposes regarding Swedes/Turnips for all that time. It was a defining moment in our marriage.
They're all turnips as far as I'm concerned. The shop did mistakenly refer to them as Swedes, however.
This is the type we used to use for Halloween lanterns. None of this posho pumpkin nonsense back in the day.
You are obviously related to my wife. Where in Scotland are you? Same with her and lanterns. I appreciate it makes life simpler using the same word for different veg, but it confused the life out of me for a long time.
Not Scotland. Turnips are Turnips in NE England too.
I'll remind everyone that the full name of Swede is Swedish Turnip.
Or Swede for short
I'm in Surrey so NE England/Scotland is just splitting hairs.
*Ducks*
North East England is a great place. If I wasn’t as Scot I would want to be a Geordie.
Also, it's surely time for the US to act and target Iranian police and military who are killing protesters. Put the scum commanders ordering their troops to kill unarmed civilians six feet under. Getting rid of the Iranian regime would be a huge net positive for the world.
Lord Mandelson has said he never saw girls at Jeffrey Epstein's properties, and declined to apologise to the late paedophile's victims for maintaining his friendship with the American because he was not "knowledgeable of what he was doing".
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
"Googling is really hard, you know. And the Palm Beach police, they wouldn't have let him off without good reason."
LOL. Its hardly like you met this random bloke down the pub who is new to the area and a nobody, and after becaming mates only to find out later he was a wrong'un. But that seems to be Peties claims.
1) Lord M carried on meeting Epstein after Epstein’s original conviction. 2) He even sent messages of sympathy about Epstein’s “legal predicament”
You might think that, we might have the evidence, but like the photo of Petie with a girl at a Epstein property, it never happened....I think that is Pete's position.
Afternoon all. No reason why Mandelson shouldn’t have sent a message of sympathy to Epstein after the latter’s conviction. With a goodbye. But nothing more than that.
I dunno, how far to maintain friendship with someone who turns out to have a wicked side isn't a trivial question. If the people involved are public figures it makes it even more challenging. The appropriate thing would perhaps be if he'd said he couldn't excuse the wrongdoing that had been exposed, but he'd be there to help after Epstein had served his sentence, so long as he didn't resume the wrongdoing? I like to think that I wouldn't completely turn my back on an old friend because he or she was convicted of an imprisonable offence. But I'm honestly not sure.
A principled stance by Turner calling the by election to back jury trials and he may think he has more chance of holding his Hull seat now as a high profile independent than as a Labour candidate at the next general election, where Reform are forecast to win the 72% Leave Hull East constituency.
Currently EC has Reform winning 45% in the seat with Labour on 19%, the Greens 11%, the Tories 9% and LDs 7%.
So even if there is a by election and Reform win it Starmer won't face too much of a threat as Labour are likely to beat the Greens and LDs still. Even the university is in Hull North not East, so there won't even be much of a student/academic vote for the Greens and LDs to squeeze. If Turner splits the Labour vote further that can be explained as unique circumstances https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/seatdetails.py?seat=Hull East
Hmm. Reform will obviously walk it. And I think Labour will crash down to at least third place. Greens and LibDems will attempt the Plaid trick in Caerphilly 0f being the stop-Reform option, though with less success. Either way a disaster for Starmer.
The Greens and LDs might try but the demographics of Hull East are different to Caerphilly.
Caerphilly was suburban Cardiff in much of the seat, 52% middle class ABC1 and was only 56% Leave and had 44% of voters as graduates and with a good education.
By contrast Hull East is overwhelmingly white working class, 63% C2DE with only 35% of the seat graduates and with a good education and which was 72% Leave.
I would expect Reform to win Hull East by a landslide but with Labour or an Independent Turner still second
Technically none of Caerphilly is suburban Cardiff though there will be a fair bit of commuter traffic day to day.
Can we just have some appreciation for a Labour MP who seems to be in favour of holding elections.
Just a gentle reminder that Hull City Council is under majority Lib Dem control. there are no Reform councilors at all. So on the ground the Lib Dems will be well dug in, and, if the voters decide that Reform are indeed a bunch of American and Russian funded chancers, there is a clear alternative- and so I would be quite careful about putting my bawbies on the Reform nag- Tykes are not the same as Yellowbellies, even if they are now linked by a large bridge.
Kingston Upon Hull East was 72% Leave, is 65% non graduate and non A level and 63% C2DE white working class. The LDs got just 7% there in 2024 at the GE compared to 31% who voted Reform.
Even if the LDs won an overall majority, vanishingly unlikely, they would not win Hull East. So I expect a Reform clear win with near zero chance of the LDs getting anywhere near it. It is the type of place which might vote for some LD councillors to mend potholes and get the bins collected but certainly not vote LD at a general election
Lord Mandelson has said he never saw girls at Jeffrey Epstein's properties, and declined to apologise to the late paedophile's victims for maintaining his friendship with the American because he was not "knowledgeable of what he was doing".
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
"Googling is really hard, you know. And the Palm Beach police, they wouldn't have let him off without good reason."
LOL. Its hardly like you met this random bloke down the pub who is new to the area and a nobody, and after becaming mates only to find out later he was a wrong'un. But that seems to be Peties claims.
1) Lord M carried on meeting Epstein after Epstein’s original conviction. 2) He even sent messages of sympathy about Epstein’s “legal predicament”
You might think that, we might have the evidence, but like the photo of Petie with a girl at a Epstein property, it never happened....I think that is Pete's position.
Afternoon all. No reason why Mandelson shouldn’t have sent a message of sympathy to Epstein after the latter’s conviction. With a goodbye. But nothing more than that.
I dunno, how far to maintain friendship with someone who turns out to have a wicked side isn't a trivial question. If the people involved are public figures it makes it even more challenging. The appropriate thing would perhaps be if he'd said he couldn't excuse the wrongdoing that had been exposed, but he'd be there to help after Epstein had served his sentence, so long as he didn't resume the wrongdoing? I like to think that I wouldn't completely turn my back on an old friend because he or she was convicted of an imprisonable offence. But I'm honestly not sure.
There is a separate question, isn't there? When all this came out, didn't Mandelson (or Andrew or any of the New York and Washington movers and shakers) have the self-awareness to worry if they really were Epstein's bestie or whether they'd just been played?
I've been cited for jury duty beginning of February. Never been cited before. Should be, um, "interesting".
Conscripted, you mean! I've been called up twice, 1994 and 2006.
My one stint of jury service involved repeatedly calling a telephone number to listen to a recorded message telling me I wasn't required that day and to phone back the next day - and all the superfluous paperwork so that I'd be paid when off work, which it turned out I never was.
I was cited a few months ago but managed to get excused on grounds of age. Having been a Childrens Panel member for 11 years, I have served my time, so don’t feel guilty. I wish I had accepted my call up, though. I might have been able to adjudicate on HYUFD being hit by a motorist when he was travelling round a roundabout at 70mph on his motorcycle. Edit: I would have found HYUFD not guilty on grounds of diminished responsibility as he’s clearly round the bend!
In that circumstance I would likely be dead. It would be for the CPS to decide whether to charge the driver or not
Lord Mandelson has said he never saw girls at Jeffrey Epstein's properties, and declined to apologise to the late paedophile's victims for maintaining his friendship with the American because he was not "knowledgeable of what he was doing".
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
"Googling is really hard, you know. And the Palm Beach police, they wouldn't have let him off without good reason."
LOL. Its hardly like you met this random bloke down the pub who is new to the area and a nobody, and after becaming mates only to find out later he was a wrong'un. But that seems to be Peties claims.
1) Lord M carried on meeting Epstein after Epstein’s original conviction. 2) He even sent messages of sympathy about Epstein’s “legal predicament”
You might think that, we might have the evidence, but like the photo of Petie with a girl at a Epstein property, it never happened....I think that is Pete's position.
Afternoon all. No reason why Mandelson shouldn’t have sent a message of sympathy to Epstein after the latter’s conviction. With a goodbye. But nothing more than that.
I dunno, how far to maintain friendship with someone who turns out to have a wicked side isn't a trivial question. If the people involved are public figures it makes it even more challenging. The appropriate thing would perhaps be if he'd said he couldn't excuse the wrongdoing that had been exposed, but he'd be there to help after Epstein had served his sentence, so long as he didn't resume the wrongdoing? I like to think that I wouldn't completely turn my back on an old friend because he or she was convicted of an imprisonable offence. But I'm honestly not sure.
I bet all those older guys photographed in compromising poses with underage girls were furious when they found out the girls were still minors.
Also, it's surely time for the US to act and target Iranian police and military who are killing protesters. Put the scum commanders ordering their troops to kill unarmed civilians six feet under. Getting rid of the Iranian regime would be a huge net positive for the world.
Trouble is it all seems to have gone off at half-cock. Trump effectively told protestors he'd got their backs but now it turns out he has moved half the US Navy to the Caribbean and nothing much in-region, and in any case has no idea of what targets to hit that the Iran's ruling mullahs actually care about. Not to mention his base still doesn't want to get involved.
A principled stance by Turner calling the by election to back jury trials and he may think he has more chance of holding his Hull seat now as a high profile independent than as a Labour candidate at the next general election, where Reform are forecast to win the 72% Leave Hull East constituency.
Currently EC has Reform winning 45% in the seat with Labour on 19%, the Greens 11%, the Tories 9% and LDs 7%.
So even if there is a by election and Reform win it Starmer won't face too much of a threat as Labour are likely to beat the Greens and LDs still. Even the university is in Hull North not East, so there won't even be much of a student/academic vote for the Greens and LDs to squeeze. If Turner splits the Labour vote further that can be explained as unique circumstances https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/seatdetails.py?seat=Hull East
Hmm. Reform will obviously walk it. And I think Labour will crash down to at least third place. Greens and LibDems will attempt the Plaid trick in Caerphilly 0f being the stop-Reform option, though with less success. Either way a disaster for Starmer.
The Greens and LDs might try but the demographics of Hull East are different to Caerphilly.
Caerphilly was suburban Cardiff in much of the seat, 52% middle class ABC1 and was only 56% Leave and had 44% of voters as graduates and with a good education.
By contrast Hull East is overwhelmingly white working class, 63% C2DE with only 35% of the seat graduates and with a good education and which was 72% Leave.
I would expect Reform to win Hull East by a landslide but with Labour or an Independent Turner still second
Technically none of Caerphilly is suburban Cardiff though there will be a fair bit of commuter traffic day to day.
Can we just have some appreciation for a Labour MP who seems to be in favour of holding elections.
Just a gentle reminder that Hull City Council is under majority Lib Dem control. there are no Reform councilors at all. So on the ground the Lib Dems will be well dug in, and, if the voters decide that Reform are indeed a bunch of American and Russian funded chancers, there is a clear alternative- and so I would be quite careful about putting my bawbies on the Reform nag- Tykes are not the same as Yellowbellies, even if they are now linked by a large bridge.
Kingston Upon Hull East was 72% Leave, is 65% non graduate and non A level and 63% C2DE white working class. The LDs got just 7% there in 2024 at the GE compared to 31% who voted Reform.
Even if the LDs won an overall majority, vanishingly unlikely, they would not win Hull East. So I expect a Reform clear win with near zero chance of the LDs getting anywhere near it. It is the type of place which might vote for some LD councillors to mend potholes and get the bins collected but certainly not vote LD at a general election
In Hull North, they’d possibly be in with a chance. In East, not so much, especially if the current MP stands again. But they’re able campaigners and I wouldn’t write them off if a by-election comes along
I've been cited for jury duty beginning of February. Never been cited before. Should be, um, "interesting".
Conscripted, you mean! I've been called up twice, 1994 and 2006.
My one stint of jury service involved repeatedly calling a telephone number to listen to a recorded message telling me I wasn't required that day and to phone back the next day - and all the superfluous paperwork so that I'd be paid when off work, which it turned out I never was.
I was cited a few months ago but managed to get excused on grounds of age. Having been a Childrens Panel member for 11 years, I have served my time, so don’t feel guilty. I wish I had accepted my call up, though. I might have been able to adjudicate on HYUFD being hit by a motorist when he was travelling round a roundabout at 70mph on his motorcycle. Edit: I would have found HYUFD not guilty on grounds of diminished responsibility as he’s clearly round the bend!
I'm a big fan of HYUFD but that made me laugh! Keep them coming!
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The number of companies / universities that have quickly produced text to image / text to video models also shows that there is actually not really a moat, there is not really any secret sauce to this that only Google / OpenAI (or even xAI) have. xAI themselves have shown in both LLM and T2I that they have gone from nothing to pretty much on par in 18 months.
I don't think all the moron politicians banging on about xAI realise this.
As for the pervbots... they're obviously horrible wherever they are. But if they stay in dingy basements, that's less awful than posting them where anyone can see their outputs. The difference between under the mattress and in the window.
Conor Bradley, the Liverpool right-back, has been ruled out for the season with the knee injury he suffered against Arsenal.
The 22-year-old escaped an anterior cruciate ligament rupture but nevertheless needs surgery to ligaments and the bone.
There is no exact timescale for his return but he is not expected back this season. The setback leaves Bradley in a race against time to be fit to captain Northern Ireland if they qualify for the World Cup in the summer.
His injury had been a major talking point in the 0-0 draw at the Emirates after Gabriel Martinelli threw the ball at Bradley and manhandled him as he lay on the turf.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/01/11/conor-bradley-ruled-out-for-season-after-injury-that-sparke/
'No you WOOOON'T!'
Time to start chopping vegetables.
And he won’t just be in a basement - it will be an app on his phone. Linked to the cloud for compute or local.
For a number of such creatures, getting their work spread across the internet is the point.
My suggestion that all website are publishers, *unless* they only publish subscriber content in date order would do something. In that the social media sites would be liable for the spread of this stuff.
Note that this would make X clearly, legally, liable for this…
Since you are driving a truck, carrying survivors from a previous plane crash, you get your mate on the back to take him out with an NLAW.
Russian General : What’s holding up the advance? Why are we stuck at Raseiniai?
Officer : There’s one man in a British WWII tank, parked on a roundabout. Anyone comes up to the stop line, he engages.
General : 4 days!!!
Officer : There’s no shifting him. He keeps shouting stuff about traffic laws.
Rather interestingly I went on the "For You" tab of X, which I basically never do as I have what I need via careful follower list. It is now stuffed full of posts from Chinese sock puppets when it didn't used to be. I presume something to do with having been in China.
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/tory-and-reform-profiles-linked-to-white-supremacist-dating-site
(It’s only actually one of each.)
Kids and wife hoovered it up. So job done.
At least he is actually all white.
This is the type we used to use for Halloween lanterns. None of this posho pumpkin nonsense back in the day.
It seems that last night didn't show any advance on the previous day for the protests in terms of momentum and, being mostly unarmed civilians, the confidence that comes from momentum is the only weapon they have to break the will of the regime.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think this ends with many thousands of civilians dead and the regime still in charge.
The problem with teen social media isn't so much what happens between 9 am and 3.30 pm, as between 3.30 pm and 9 am.
(It's why cyberbullying is so nasty; in the old days, school bullies could only really get at their victims during weekday daytimes. Now, it's a 24/7 operation.)
Have people talked about the Nightfall missiles at all?
Ben Collins would have worked.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd9el4dw0z3o
Wasn't there a photo from one of the releases that had Petie and a "girl" that was taken at Epstein property? I presume he is being very specific about his definition of girl.
Edit:- I was remembering correctly.
https://news.sky.com/story/who-is-peter-mandelson-and-what-do-we-know-about-his-relationship-with-jeffrey-epstein-13428044
For a man who made a career out of being able to spin all sorts of BS, he appears to have lost his touch and done a Prince Andrew. That photo was actually in Pizza Express in Woking.....
I've just been searching for a solicitor to draft my will, using the Law Society's website to direct me to local firms' websites, a surprising number of which seem to be inoperative!
But one in particular came up with the normal I'm not a robot verification pop-up followed by this screen:-
Anyone following these reasonable-looking instructions on an actual law firm's website would likely infect their machine. The scam instructions use win+r to open a command prompt, followed by control-v to paste into it devilish instructions. Stay safe, everyone.
You'd think the Law Society would take a dim view of this sort of thing but apparently regard it as someone else's problem, much like our expensive but ineffective National Cyber Security Centre.
Its for me why you don't to have tin foil hatter to think perhaps there was a bit more going on than him just being a twisted paedo.
2) He even sent messages of sympathy about Epstein’s “legal predicament”
In neither of these schools were these policies regarded as controversial or difficult.
Is this one of those things that varies wildly by region?
Can we just have some appreciation for a Labour MP who seems to be in favour of holding elections.
Edit: I would have found HYUFD not guilty on grounds of diminished responsibility as he’s clearly round the bend!
No reason why Mandelson shouldn’t have sent a message of sympathy to Epstein after the latter’s conviction. With a goodbye. But nothing more than that.
I was called once but got excused for work reasons. In reality I would have loved to do it, but it just wasn't possible.
Well done on the children's panel. Had never heard of it until now. I am impressed.
The Americans are currently drunk with power.
Although I think that his Lordship misses the point. Remaining mates with a convicted nonce, as Andrew Windsor found out, is an enormous error of judgement.
There's a lot of detail on Russian money in the files.
https://x.com/PremSportsTV/status/2010374391222190094?s=20
Rugby changed a bit since when I played, Number 8 on the wing, catching and chip kicking to themselves for a try....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2kv2gn62vo
Iran, not good, not good at all.
https://x.com/CoreyRForrester/status/2010133373264794085
I'll remind everyone that the full name of Swede is Swedish Turnip.
I'm in Surrey so NE England/Scotland is just splitting hairs.
*Ducks*
a swede by any other name would taste as sweet
It is a mixed up world
Glad to see that the Tory party is coming up with tangible policies, good ones too.
Even if the LDs won an overall majority, vanishingly unlikely, they would not win Hull East. So I expect a Reform clear win with near zero chance of the LDs getting anywhere near it. It is the type of place which might vote for some LD councillors to mend potholes and get the bins collected but certainly not vote LD at a general election
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/seatdetails.py?seat=Hull East