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Reform are the favourites to win the most seats at the next general election – politicalbetting.com

The chart above shows the Betfair most seats at the next general election market over the last 12 months and it shows how Reform have been in the ascendancy.

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  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,090
    Looks like a money maker to sell short. Reform are not successfully countering the "Putin's puppet" charge. The Tories are recovering a little, and sufficiently to cancel out Reform in many seats.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 34,509
    Three and a half years (until the general election) is a long time in politics.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 17,785
    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,546
    Reform may be favourites to win most seats at the next GE, but even so I dare say 'the government' will be back in power.

    Good morning, everybody.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,436

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Voodoo poll.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,546

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Sounds as though very few Reform voters use Wisp.
  • TazTaz Posts: 23,550
    edited 8:07AM

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    For me the biggest ‘ick’, whatever that means, was having kids. Didn’t want to take on another chaps kids.

  • TazTaz Posts: 23,550
    AnneJGP said:

    Reform may be favourites to win most seats at the next GE, but even so I dare say 'the government' will be back in power.

    Good morning, everybody.

    Good morning Anne

    An old boy I used to work with at Bombardier many years ago used to say ‘whoever you vote for the government always gets back in’ !
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 53,698
    That still feels like a lay
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,110
    Good morning.

    Has anyone spotted Easter Eggs in the shops yet?
  • TazTaz Posts: 23,550
    BBC News reporting that there have been five days of demonstrations in Iran due to the rising cost of living.

    It’s too much to hope the Mullahs are on the way out.
  • TazTaz Posts: 23,550

    Good morning.

    Has anyone spotted Easter Eggs in the shops yet?

    Yes. Sainsburys Arnison. Best before date, sometime in mid March.

    Although not called Easter Eggs. We’re supposed to be a Christian nation. Game’s gone 😉
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,808
    edited 8:14AM
    Taz said:

    Good morning.

    Has anyone spotted Easter Eggs in the shops yet?

    Yes. Sainsburys Arnison. Best before date, sometime in mid March.

    Although not called Easter Eggs. We’re supposed to be a Christian nation. Game’s gone 😉
    You can still get venison for epic not-quite-vegan curries.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,117
    AnneJGP said:

    Reform may be favourites to win most seats at the next GE, but even so I dare say 'the government' will be back in power.

    Good morning, everybody.

    For all the noise about culling the woke Civil Service, that probably goes doubly for Reform. They have nobody with experience of getting the machine to do stuff. Danny Kruger never made it beyond PPS, which is amazing given the ministerial churn 2019-24.

    Team Sir Humphrey is likely to run rings around them. If it weren't my country, it would be hilarious to watch.
  • TazTaz Posts: 23,550
    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    Good morning.

    Has anyone spotted Easter Eggs in the shops yet?

    Yes. Sainsburys Arnison. Best before date, sometime in mid March.

    Although not called Easter Eggs. We’re supposed to be a Christian nation. Game’s gone 😉
    You can still get venison for epic not-quite-vegan curries.
    I’m going this morning so will have a look for some 👍
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,110
    There does appear to have been a bit of a drift back from Reform to Conservative in recent weeks. While this could be the start of a trend, it could equally be a short term blip, with normal service being resumed in short order.

    Meanwhile the voters Labour has lost to Reform don't seem to be showing any signs of coming back. While that flow seems to have dried up, we are losing support at the same rate but now to the assorted Leftists.

    So as we start 2026, glimmers of hope for the Tories, staring into the abyss for Labour.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,154

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Thank goodness Reform voters are unlikely to be boorish, smelly smokers living with their mums, or else they’d be onto plums dating wise.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,589

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Gen Z dating terms explained here.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/01/gen-z-dating-terms-explained?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

    The article linked to under "gooner" is one of the most disturbing things that I have read this year. A more plausible explanation for the drop in TFR than misandrist college professors.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 17,785

    Good morning.

    Has anyone spotted Easter Eggs in the shops yet?

    Our local M&S had gluten-free hot cross buns on sale on Xmas Eve.
  • isamisam Posts: 43,288
    I laid Reform to win most seats at 2.06 a month or so ago, and would have thought I was in good shape considering the stories about Farage’s schooldays, but they’re 2.02 to lay now
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 4,546
    Foxy said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Gen Z dating terms explained here.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/01/gen-z-dating-terms-explained?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

    The article linked to under "gooner" is one of the most disturbing things that I have read this year. A more plausible explanation for the drop in TFR than misandrist college professors.
    Have you read a lot of disturbing things already this year?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,589
    AnneJGP said:

    Foxy said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Gen Z dating terms explained here.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/01/gen-z-dating-terms-explained?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

    The article linked to under "gooner" is one of the most disturbing things that I have read this year. A more plausible explanation for the drop in TFR than misandrist college professors.
    Have you read a lot of disturbing things already this year?
    Yes, the match reports on Sheffield United vs Leicester City. FoxesTalk are not happy...
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,980
    Cons look value at >5 I think.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,808
    This is of course absolutely going to put rumours about dementia to bed.

    Trump says he takes higher daily dose of aspirin than doctors recommend
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c701z7g0ppro

    US President Donald Trump says he is in "perfect" health, takes more aspirin than doctors recommend, uses makeup to cover bruising on his hands, and does not get regular exercise because he finds it "boring".

    I mean, how could taking a dose of aspirin every day four times the level of the permitted short term maximum possibly be in any way a health risk?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,642
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    ydoethur said:

    This is of course absolutely going to put rumours about dementia to bed.

    Trump says he takes higher daily dose of aspirin than doctors recommend
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c701z7g0ppro

    US President Donald Trump says he is in "perfect" health, takes more aspirin than doctors recommend, uses makeup to cover bruising on his hands, and does not get regular exercise because he finds it "boring".

    I mean, how could taking a dose of aspirin every day four times the level of the permitted short term maximum possibly be in any way a health risk?

    Early Signs: Ringing in the ears (tinnitus), hearing loss, nausea, vomiting, and unusually deep or rapid breathing.

    Advanced Signs: High fever, severe sweating (diaphoresis), extreme drowsiness, and agitation.

    Chronic Overdose Symptoms: More subtle signs like confusion, fatigue, and persistent shortness of breath, particularly in older adults.

    Hmmm…
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 34,509

    Good morning.

    Has anyone spotted Easter Eggs in the shops yet?

    Our local M&S had gluten-free hot cross buns on sale on Xmas Eve.
    Hot cross buns are sold year-round now, like some brands of small chocolate eggs.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 132,480
    On the current poll average Reform are heading for a narrow majority. However tactical voting against Reform could produce a hung parliament or even stop Reform winning most seats
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,642
    Foxy said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Gen Z dating terms explained here.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/01/gen-z-dating-terms-explained?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

    The article linked to under "gooner" is one of the most disturbing things that I have read this year. A more plausible explanation for the drop in TFR than misandrist college professors.
    Is there a specific term for subtle click baiting?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,808

    Taz said:

    BBC News reporting that there have been five days of demonstrations in Iran due to the rising cost of living.

    It’s too much to hope the Mullahs are on the way out.

    Here's hoping for a Shi'ite 2026 for the Ayatollah and his regime.
    Would be better for them to have a short 2026.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,072
    ydoethur said:

    This is of course absolutely going to put rumours about dementia to bed.

    Trump says he takes higher daily dose of aspirin than doctors recommend
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c701z7g0ppro

    US President Donald Trump says he is in "perfect" health, takes more aspirin than doctors recommend, uses makeup to cover bruising on his hands, and does not get regular exercise because he finds it "boring".

    I mean, how could taking a dose of aspirin every day four times the level of the permitted short term maximum possibly be in any way a health risk?

    He's a stroke risk presumably, which is no surprise. Does nothing to dampen the rumours that his breaks from public are due to mini-strokes.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 17,785
    ydoethur said:

    This is of course absolutely going to put rumours about dementia to bed.

    Trump says he takes higher daily dose of aspirin than doctors recommend
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c701z7g0ppro

    US President Donald Trump says he is in "perfect" health, takes more aspirin than doctors recommend, uses makeup to cover bruising on his hands, and does not get regular exercise because he finds it "boring".

    I mean, how could taking a dose of aspirin every day four times the level of the permitted short term maximum possibly be in any way a health risk?

    This is from an interview he gave to the WSJ, who he is suing for $10 billion. Because nothing shows how serious your lawsuit is more than giving the people you are suing an exclusive interview.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 132,480

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,642
    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    BBC News reporting that there have been five days of demonstrations in Iran due to the rising cost of living.

    It’s too much to hope the Mullahs are on the way out.

    Here's hoping for a Shi'ite 2026 for the Ayatollah and his regime.
    Would be better for them to have a short 2026.
    Perhaps a short drop and a sudden stop?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,589
    IanB2 said:

    That still feels like a lay

    It does, but the difficult thing about the next GE is that someone has to win. PC and SNP are impossible, Greens or LDs nearly so, which leaves Reform, Labour and Tories, all of which have strong cases against.

    NOC perhaps most likely, which would make the chaos of 2017-19 look like a model of stable government.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 17,785
    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    Apart from a big gender asymmetry in Reform support.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,808
    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    The issue there being that most younger Reform voters are male, and seem to tend quite homophobic.

    Where most younger female voters are trending Green...which may explain the data!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,808

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    BBC News reporting that there have been five days of demonstrations in Iran due to the rising cost of living.

    It’s too much to hope the Mullahs are on the way out.

    Here's hoping for a Shi'ite 2026 for the Ayatollah and his regime.
    Would be better for them to have a short 2026.
    Perhaps a short drop and a sudden stop?
    That's the only way we want them to hang around.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,589
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    BBC News reporting that there have been five days of demonstrations in Iran due to the rising cost of living.

    It’s too much to hope the Mullahs are on the way out.

    Here's hoping for a Shi'ite 2026 for the Ayatollah and his regime.
    Would be better for them to have a short 2026.
    Perhaps a short drop and a sudden stop?
    That's the only way we want them to hang around.
    I am against capital punishment. No noose is good noose.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,642

    AnneJGP said:

    Reform may be favourites to win most seats at the next GE, but even so I dare say 'the government' will be back in power.

    Good morning, everybody.

    For all the noise about culling the woke Civil Service, that probably goes doubly for Reform. They have nobody with experience of getting the machine to do stuff. Danny Kruger never made it beyond PPS, which is amazing given the ministerial churn 2019-24.

    Team Sir Humphrey is likely to run rings around them. If it weren't my country, it would be hilarious to watch.
    The problem is that Team Sir Humphrey isn't a bunch of geniuses, either.

    What the country needs is constructive change, rather than either Process Statism or lunatic slash and burn.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,589

    AnneJGP said:

    Reform may be favourites to win most seats at the next GE, but even so I dare say 'the government' will be back in power.

    Good morning, everybody.

    For all the noise about culling the woke Civil Service, that probably goes doubly for Reform. They have nobody with experience of getting the machine to do stuff. Danny Kruger never made it beyond PPS, which is amazing given the ministerial churn 2019-24.

    Team Sir Humphrey is likely to run rings around them. If it weren't my country, it would be hilarious to watch.
    The problem is that Team Sir Humphrey isn't a bunch of geniuses, either.

    What the country needs is constructive change, rather than either Process Statism or lunatic slash and burn.
    Sounds a bit Centrist Dad...
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,838

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Doesn't Farage tick most of those boxes anyway ?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,838

    Three and a half years (until the general election) is a long time in politics.

    And a lot longer in betting at short odds.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,808
    Foxy said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    BBC News reporting that there have been five days of demonstrations in Iran due to the rising cost of living.

    It’s too much to hope the Mullahs are on the way out.

    Here's hoping for a Shi'ite 2026 for the Ayatollah and his regime.
    Would be better for them to have a short 2026.
    Perhaps a short drop and a sudden stop?
    That's the only way we want them to hang around.
    I am against capital punishment. No noose is good noose.
    But at the same time, the Iranians need to get shot of them somehow.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,642
    Foxy said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Reform may be favourites to win most seats at the next GE, but even so I dare say 'the government' will be back in power.

    Good morning, everybody.

    For all the noise about culling the woke Civil Service, that probably goes doubly for Reform. They have nobody with experience of getting the machine to do stuff. Danny Kruger never made it beyond PPS, which is amazing given the ministerial churn 2019-24.

    Team Sir Humphrey is likely to run rings around them. If it weren't my country, it would be hilarious to watch.
    The problem is that Team Sir Humphrey isn't a bunch of geniuses, either.

    What the country needs is constructive change, rather than either Process Statism or lunatic slash and burn.
    Sounds a bit Centrist Dad...
    Anarchy Burgers are more fun in theory, than reality.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,808
    edited 9:09AM
    Incidentally, it would be nice to think that Iran's crisis would see the end of the ayatollahs. Even if that didn't lead to democracy and Apple pie in Iran itself, it would surely be a further hammer blow for their many militias across the Middle East in Lebanon, Gaza and Yemen and would assist in calming the regional temperature. Plus it would weaken Moscow's reach in the region. This would be A Good Thing for the people living in those areas.

    However, both Venezuela and Zimbabwe went through worse crises than this with recognised and well-organised opposition movements, which Iran doesn't really have. In the case of Zimbabwe, it lasted for over 25 years. Both those regimes are still standing, albeit with new figureheads.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 12,973
    edited 9:10AM

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    What's remarkable about that is how being a Conservative isn't a problem at all - 72% for Reform voters, 11% for Conservatives, 10% for Labour. I guess having Reform there makes the very few people aged under 50 who vote Conservative look comparatively normal and reasonable in comparison.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 40,228
    Foxy said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Gen Z dating terms explained here.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/01/gen-z-dating-terms-explained?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

    The article linked to under "gooner" is one of the most disturbing things that I have read this year. A more plausible explanation for the drop in TFR than misandrist college professors.
    I always thought that Gooners were Arsenal supporters, hence "The Gay Gooners."

    I suspect Gavin Plumb would fit the description. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ngp983q4xo
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,493
    edited 9:19AM
    Legal Eagle: "Legalized Online Betting Is Destroying Sports"

    They are arguing that sports betting should be restricted or banned, for the sake of the health of sport.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awo2OTrYKeA
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,808
    MattW said:

    Legal Eagle: "Legalized Online Betting Is Destroying Sports"

    They are arguing that sports betting should be restricted or banned, for the sake of the health of sport.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awo2OTrYKeA

    Banning betting on sport tends to make the situation worse. As in this case when being an illegal bookmaker was at the root of many violent gang related incidents in the 1920s through 1960s, or in India where match rigging in the IPL and before that the ICL is incredibly blatant.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,117

    AnneJGP said:

    Reform may be favourites to win most seats at the next GE, but even so I dare say 'the government' will be back in power.

    Good morning, everybody.

    For all the noise about culling the woke Civil Service, that probably goes doubly for Reform. They have nobody with experience of getting the machine to do stuff. Danny Kruger never made it beyond PPS, which is amazing given the ministerial churn 2019-24.

    Team Sir Humphrey is likely to run rings around them. If it weren't my country, it would be hilarious to watch.
    The problem is that Team Sir Humphrey isn't a bunch of geniuses, either.

    What the country needs is constructive change, rather than either Process Statism or lunatic slash and burn.
    It may be what we need, but I doubt it's what many people want.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 21,636
    ydoethur said:

    Incidentally, it would be nice to think that Iran's crisis would see the end of the ayatollahs. Even if that didn't lead to democracy and Apple pie in Iran itself, it would surely be a further hammer blow for their many militias across the Middle East in Lebanon, Gaza and Yemen and would assist in calming the regional temperature. Plus it would weaken Moscow's reach in the region. This would be A Good Thing for the people living in those areas.

    However, both Venezuela and Zimbabwe went through worse crises than this with recognised and well-organised opposition movements, which Iran doesn't really have. In the case of Zimbabwe, it lasted for over 25 years. Both those regimes are still standing, albeit with new figureheads.

    Yes, we shouldn't get overexcited. And yet the news from Iran is encouraging.

    Apparently the bazaar owners have been an important agent of change in Iran in the past - in the Islamic revolution itself - and an important bulwark of support for the regime since. They're part of the core of the protest movement now.

    It also seems that the 12-day war involved significant damage to the forces Iran uses for internal repression, and there's some evidence of internal division as to how best to respond to the protests.

    Often a regime falls because those in charge of it lose confidence in its ability to continue. It's less about whether it has the material ability to continue, but whether people believe it will continue. Predicting the ebbs and flows of confidence is more difficult that predicting the turbulence of of Kelvin-Helmholtz waves.

    The future is always uncertain, but particularly so for Iran today. In a week or two I would expect that things will be clearer, one way or another, and then we will see the consequences begin to play out.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 132,480
    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    The issue there being that most younger Reform voters are male, and seem to tend quite homophobic.

    Where most younger female voters are trending Green...which may explain the data!
    I don't think Reform are that homophobic, even Farage has said he won't reverse same sex marriage even if he preferred to just keep civil unions.

    Though yes culturally young male Reform voters are a million miles from young female Green voters.

    Though young male Reform voters tend to be more likely to live in provincial towns and rural areas than young female Green voters who are likely based in big cities anyway
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,838
    The right have always had an odd fascination with authoritarians.

    "It is not possible to form a just judgment of a public figure who has attained the enormous dimensions of Adolf Hitler until his life-work as a whole is before us.
    Although no subsequent political action can condone wrong deeds, history is replete with examples of men who have risen to power by employing stern, grim, and even frightful methods, but who, nevertheless, when their life is revealed as a whole, have been regarded as great figures whose lives have enriched the story of mankind. So may it be with Hitler."

    This was written in 1935 - incredibly nearly a whole year after Chamberlain had agreed with the Committee of Imperial Defence that Germany ought to be now selected as the "ultimate enemy" for British long term defence plans.

    But then, Chamberlain did not write it, it was written by Winston Churchill.

    https://x.com/CalumDouglas1/status/2006727994232955176
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,493
    Dopermean said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is of course absolutely going to put rumours about dementia to bed.

    Trump says he takes higher daily dose of aspirin than doctors recommend
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c701z7g0ppro

    US President Donald Trump says he is in "perfect" health, takes more aspirin than doctors recommend, uses makeup to cover bruising on his hands, and does not get regular exercise because he finds it "boring".

    I mean, how could taking a dose of aspirin every day four times the level of the permitted short term maximum possibly be in any way a health risk?

    He's a stroke risk presumably, which is no surprise. Does nothing to dampen the rumours that his breaks from public are due to mini-strokes.
    According to Stormy Daniels, there is a reason he is limited to mini strokes !

    (Good morning everyone.)
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,493
    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    Has anyone done polling on the sexual orientation of Reform UK voters?
  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,795
    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    Legal Eagle: "Legalized Online Betting Is Destroying Sports"

    They are arguing that sports betting should be restricted or banned, for the sake of the health of sport.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awo2OTrYKeA

    Banning betting on sport tends to make the situation worse. As in this case when being an illegal bookmaker was at the root of many violent gang related incidents in the 1920s through 1960s, or in India where match rigging in the IPL and before that the ICL is incredibly blatant.
    If you banned betting on horse and dog racing, you'd kill those sports completely.

    As for football (association, rugby league and union, American and Australian Rules), the extent to which each of those derives income from or is supported by betting isn't known to me but I suspect Premier League football is a big winner (so to speak).

    Coral used to live in Barking - if you banned betting, Barking would become a ghost town so there are advantages....
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,368
    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    Legal Eagle: "Legalized Online Betting Is Destroying Sports"

    They are arguing that sports betting should be restricted or banned, for the sake of the health of sport.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awo2OTrYKeA

    Banning betting on sport tends to make the situation worse. As in this case when being an illegal bookmaker was at the root of many violent gang related incidents in the 1920s through 1960s, or in India where match rigging in the IPL and before that the ICL is incredibly blatant.
    Canada rapidly copied America in legalising single event (ie not just multiples) sports betting and online betting. If the USA bans it again, then the overlap of interest in the major leagues will see a bucketload of bettors, and revenue, just head north of the border for practically the same experience only the money is wagered in Canada.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,808
    MattW said:

    Dopermean said:

    ydoethur said:

    This is of course absolutely going to put rumours about dementia to bed.

    Trump says he takes higher daily dose of aspirin than doctors recommend
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c701z7g0ppro

    US President Donald Trump says he is in "perfect" health, takes more aspirin than doctors recommend, uses makeup to cover bruising on his hands, and does not get regular exercise because he finds it "boring".

    I mean, how could taking a dose of aspirin every day four times the level of the permitted short term maximum possibly be in any way a health risk?

    He's a stroke risk presumably, which is no surprise. Does nothing to dampen the rumours that his breaks from public are due to mini-strokes.
    According to Stormy Daniels, there is a reason he is limited to mini strokes !

    (Good morning everyone.)
    There is not mushroom for a big one.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 21,636
    Last night Ukrainian drones hit the Novokuybyshevsk oil refinery in Samara oblast, the second Russian oil refinery to be hit in 2026.

    This refinery has a capacity of 7.9 million tons, ~2.5% of total Russian capacity and is the 16th largest refinery in Russia. It was previously targeted in March, August, September, October and November of 2025.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,808
    Incidentally @MattW if you have a moment I'd appreciate some info. I'm currently trying to modify access for a wheelchair user, who at the moment has to go up and across a (council owned) bank with a path that has multiple steps in it. The path dates from the 1950s and hasn't been modified since. What's the requirement under the EA for reasonable adjustment for wheelchair access?

    If you can't help don't worry but I thought you might know.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,795
    Morning all :)

    On the substantive, parties can win seats without doing very much if a) they are popular and b) none of their opponents are doing very much to stop them. I don't know the situation regarding the local organisations of, for example, Labour in Amber Valley or the Conservatives in Hornchurch & Upminster but, and I can speak for the former, they aren't moribund and when the election comes, it will be interesting to see Reform have any "ground game" or whether it is a social media chimera.

    Reform certainly have plenty of angry people to shrill for them on X or wherever but that's not the same as working in communties and the record of the Reform County Councils elected in May is likely to undermine some of their more grandiose claims around Council Tax cuts.

    We know there's a tension between the Thatcherite aspirations of Farage and Tice for large scale spending cuts and tax cuts for the rich and the ex-Labour Reform voter base which wants money spent on local services in WWC areas (and not on migrants in hotels). I imagine Farage will try to keep both on side and end up losing both as the contradictions of his "policy" are laid bare.

    Ask me on a cold January morning more than three years before the event (if you must), my view is Labour will be the largest party though possibly short of a majority and the intriguing question(s) are whether Labour plus LD will be a majority or whether Reform plus Conservative will be a majority (possibly neither will be the case).

    The other side of this question is whether the next election will be Labour vs Not Labour or Reform vs Not Reform or both and sometimes both in the same constituencies.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,493
    HYUFD said:

    ydoethur said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    The issue there being that most younger Reform voters are male, and seem to tend quite homophobic.

    Where most younger female voters are trending Green...which may explain the data!
    I don't think Reform are that homophobic, even Farage has said he won't reverse same sex marriage even if he preferred to just keep civil unions.

    Though yes culturally young male Reform voters are a million miles from young female Green voters.

    Though young male Reform voters tend to be more likely to live in provincial towns and rural areas than young female Green voters who are likely based in big cities anyway
    They propose to delete the Equality Act 2010, which removes a lot of protections from gays and lesbians, and there is the stuff about withdrawing from the ECHR. The former was a manifesto commitment in 2024 iirc.

    It's a bit of a tightrope they need to walk.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,589

    ydoethur said:

    Incidentally, it would be nice to think that Iran's crisis would see the end of the ayatollahs. Even if that didn't lead to democracy and Apple pie in Iran itself, it would surely be a further hammer blow for their many militias across the Middle East in Lebanon, Gaza and Yemen and would assist in calming the regional temperature. Plus it would weaken Moscow's reach in the region. This would be A Good Thing for the people living in those areas.

    However, both Venezuela and Zimbabwe went through worse crises than this with recognised and well-organised opposition movements, which Iran doesn't really have. In the case of Zimbabwe, it lasted for over 25 years. Both those regimes are still standing, albeit with new figureheads.

    Yes, we shouldn't get overexcited. And yet the news from Iran is encouraging.

    Apparently the bazaar owners have been an important agent of change in Iran in the past - in the Islamic revolution itself - and an important bulwark of support for the regime since. They're part of the core of the protest movement now.

    It also seems that the 12-day war involved significant damage to the forces Iran uses for internal repression, and there's some evidence of internal division as to how best to respond to the protests.

    Often a regime falls because those in charge of it lose confidence in its ability to continue. It's less about whether it has the material ability to continue, but whether people believe it will continue. Predicting the ebbs and flows of confidence is more difficult that predicting the turbulence of of Kelvin-Helmholtz waves.

    The future is always uncertain, but particularly so for Iran today. In a week or two I would expect that things will be clearer, one way or another, and then we will see the consequences begin to play out.
    The key moment in the fall of a tyranny is when the army, police or security services refuse to fire on the protestors, or even join them. No sign of that yet. For every Ceausescu moment there is a Tianamen Square.

    A new regime in Iran would be a positive for the Iranian people, but also for the world, not least Ukraine.

  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,154
    edited 9:45AM
    Nigelb said:

    The right have always had an odd fascination with authoritarians.

    "It is not possible to form a just judgment of a public figure who has attained the enormous dimensions of Adolf Hitler until his life-work as a whole is before us.
    Although no subsequent political action can condone wrong deeds, history is replete with examples of men who have risen to power by employing stern, grim, and even frightful methods, but who, nevertheless, when their life is revealed as a whole, have been regarded as great figures whose lives have enriched the story of mankind. So may it be with Hitler."

    This was written in 1935 - incredibly nearly a whole year after Chamberlain had agreed with the Committee of Imperial Defence that Germany ought to be now selected as the "ultimate enemy" for British long term defence plans.

    But then, Chamberlain did not write it, it was written by Winston Churchill.

    https://x.com/CalumDouglas1/status/2006727994232955176

    Churchill was making Hitler positive noises quite late on. I suspect he saw him as part of the great man category, of which he (Churchill) was the prime example.
    This was after Munich.

    'I have always said that if Great Britain were defeated in war I hoped we should find a Hitler to lead us back to our rightful position among the nations. I am sorry, however, that he has not been mellowed by the great success that has attended him. The whole world would rejoice to see the Hitler of peace and tolerance, and nothing would adorn his name in world history so much as acts of magnanimity and of mercy and of pity to the forlorn and friendless, to the weak and poor.'
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 53,698
    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    The young women the younger ones are after all vote Green nowadays
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,493
    edited 9:47AM
    ydoethur said:

    Incidentally @MattW if you have a moment I'd appreciate some info. I'm currently trying to modify access for a wheelchair user, who at the moment has to go up and across a (council owned) bank with a path that has multiple steps in it. The path dates from the 1950s and hasn't been modified since. What's the requirement under the EA for reasonable adjustment for wheelchair access?

    If you can't help don't worry but I thought you might know.

    It will be context dependent, for example if it is to access a Council Service (eg a school or a council house or office) they are the provider, or potentially the path itself is a Council Service. And public sector bodies have what is called an "anticipatory duty" to provide equal access to services, in addition to reasonable adjustments.

    There exist grants for adapting homes, at various levels of funding, sometimes with legal duties attached.

    And there are many ways to approach it.

    Do you have a streetview link to the bank (ideally) or a piccie? If you do I can ask an officer on the Wheels for Wellbeing discord; if they can get a good understanding of the circumstances they would advise, and would do a letter of support.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 386
    edited 9:47AM
    Morning, I noticed Con majority at next GE was in to around 10/1 or thereabouts, having been 16/1 or higher a couple of months ago.

    Tories have definitely stemmed the flow away from them, and Kemi Badenoch will be happy to see her approval rating (relative to Starmers) in the yougov poll

    I still think the Tories are a long way back from power, a lot will depend on Farage (and his health) for the next 3 and a half years

    It will be a very split electoral map in 2029. FPTP is great for betting opportunities, but I dont think it can survive long once it fragments into a 5 or 6 way split
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,283
    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    Isn't the point, rather, that there is an excess of young males amongst Reform voters? And a distinct deficit of females? Your thinking would be relevant to Young Conservatives c. 1950s, sure, but Reform in 2026?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,493
    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    On the substantive, parties can win seats without doing very much if a) they are popular and b) none of their opponents are doing very much to stop them. I don't know the situation regarding the local organisations of, for example, Labour in Amber Valley or the Conservatives in Hornchurch & Upminster but, and I can speak for the former, they aren't moribund and when the election comes, it will be interesting to see Reform have any "ground game" or whether it is a social media chimera.

    Reform certainly have plenty of angry people to shrill for them on X or wherever but that's not the same as working in communties and the record of the Reform County Councils elected in May is likely to undermine some of their more grandiose claims around Council Tax cuts.

    We know there's a tension between the Thatcherite aspirations of Farage and Tice for large scale spending cuts and tax cuts for the rich and the ex-Labour Reform voter base which wants money spent on local services in WWC areas (and not on migrants in hotels). I imagine Farage will try to keep both on side and end up losing both as the contradictions of his "policy" are laid bare.

    Ask me on a cold January morning more than three years before the event (if you must), my view is Labour will be the largest party though possibly short of a majority and the intriguing question(s) are whether Labour plus LD will be a majority or whether Reform plus Conservative will be a majority (possibly neither will be the case).

    The other side of this question is whether the next election will be Labour vs Not Labour or Reform vs Not Reform or both and sometimes both in the same constituencies.

    I think the influential social media for Reform will probably be Facebook. Here, that is where local voters aged 40+ gather, which is a big part of the demographic.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,283
    edited 9:52AM
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jan/02/flood-home-unsellable-britain

    Interesting piece on flooding risks (in more than one sense) - which, inter alia, shows that there's not enough planning control in a critical area, that of flooding risk caused ny new development.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,154
    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    The young women the younger ones are after all vote Green nowadays
    I'm reminded of Beardsley's Lysistrata where the peace loving women of Athens deny the warmongering men sexual pleasure, and the latter wander about angrily and frustratedly with vastly swollen members (muttering about woke bitches no doubt).
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,967
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    Isn't the point, rather, that there is an excess of young males amongst Reform voters? And a distinct deficit of females? Your thinking would be relevant to Young Conservatives c. 1950s, sure, but Reform in 2026?
    Fukkers will have to adapt to reproduce asexually like aphids (with whom they share intellectual capacity) or sharks (with whom they share a system of ethics).
  • IcarusIcarus Posts: 1,031

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    The young women the younger ones are after all vote Green nowadays
    I'm reminded of Beardsley's Lysistrata where the peace loving women of Athens deny the warmongering men sexual pleasure, and the latter wander about angrily and frustratedly with vastly swollen members (muttering about woke bitches no doubt).
    Aristophanes Lysistrata
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,283
    Dura_Ace said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    Isn't the point, rather, that there is an excess of young males amongst Reform voters? And a distinct deficit of females? Your thinking would be relevant to Young Conservatives c. 1950s, sure, but Reform in 2026?
    Fukkers will have to adapt to reproduce asexually like aphids (with whom they share intellectual capacity) or sharks (with whom they share a system of ethics).
    Slight problem. Only works if they are female in the first place.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,342
    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    On the substantive, parties can win seats without doing very much if a) they are popular and b) none of their opponents are doing very much to stop them. I don't know the situation regarding the local organisations of, for example, Labour in Amber Valley or the Conservatives in Hornchurch & Upminster but, and I can speak for the former, they aren't moribund and when the election comes, it will be interesting to see Reform have any "ground game" or whether it is a social media chimera.

    Reform certainly have plenty of angry people to shrill for them on X or wherever but that's not the same as working in communties and the record of the Reform County Councils elected in May is likely to undermine some of their more grandiose claims around Council Tax cuts.

    We know there's a tension between the Thatcherite aspirations of Farage and Tice for large scale spending cuts and tax cuts for the rich and the ex-Labour Reform voter base which wants money spent on local services in WWC areas (and not on migrants in hotels). I imagine Farage will try to keep both on side and end up losing both as the contradictions of his "policy" are laid bare.

    Ask me on a cold January morning more than three years before the event (if you must), my view is Labour will be the largest party though possibly short of a majority and the intriguing question(s) are whether Labour plus LD will be a majority or whether Reform plus Conservative will be a majority (possibly neither will be the case).

    The other side of this question is whether the next election will be Labour vs Not Labour or Reform vs Not Reform or both and sometimes both in the same constituencies.

    I always enjoy Mr S's posts on politics; thoughtful and thought-provoking. Also helps that I generally agree with his politics!
    I suspect that the next election won't be until 2029; the government might not be doing 'well' but it doesn't seem to be showing any signs of collapse, and as Wilson remarked, a week is a long time in politics. It does look though, AToW, as though one of the most notable features of our system will be apparent; 650 individual contests with different parties vying for first and second place, sometimes in adjacent constituencies.
    For example, in Witham, where I live, I suspect it'll be Con v Reform, with Labour snapping at both of their heels. Where that will leave me, assuming I'm still around, I don't know.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,493
    On the PB Recipe library, quite a nice selection of high protein breakfasts on the BBC:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/articles/high_protein_breakfasts

    (frittata, Turkish Heggs, granola and Quark - ears not visible, silken tofu smoothie, classic beans on toast)
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,808
    MattW said:

    ydoethur said:

    Incidentally @MattW if you have a moment I'd appreciate some info. I'm currently trying to modify access for a wheelchair user, who at the moment has to go up and across a (council owned) bank with a path that has multiple steps in it. The path dates from the 1950s and hasn't been modified since. What's the requirement under the EA for reasonable adjustment for wheelchair access?

    If you can't help don't worry but I thought you might know.

    It will be context dependent, for example if it is to access a Council Service (eg a school or a council house or office) they are the provider, or potentially the path itself is a Council Service. And public sector bodies have what is called an "anticipatory duty" to provide equal access to services, in addition to reasonable adjustments.

    There exist grants for adapting homes, at various levels of funding, sometimes with legal duties attached.

    And there are many ways to approach it.

    Do you have a streetview link to the bank (ideally) or a piccie? If you do I can ask an officer on the Wheels for Wellbeing discord; if they can get a good understanding of the circumstances they would advise, and would do a letter of support.
    Thanks Matt, much appreciated. VM for you.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,283
    Icarus said:

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    The young women the younger ones are after all vote Green nowadays
    I'm reminded of Beardsley's Lysistrata where the peace loving women of Athens deny the warmongering men sexual pleasure, and the latter wander about angrily and frustratedly with vastly swollen members (muttering about woke bitches no doubt).
    Aristophanes Lysistrata
    Both right. One did the text, the other did the drawings, albeit rather later.

    eg

    https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O685621/lysistrata-defending-the-acropolis-drawing-beardsley-aubrey-vincent/ (NSFW but mild compared to some of the others)
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,154
    Icarus said:

    IanB2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    The young women the younger ones are after all vote Green nowadays
    I'm reminded of Beardsley's Lysistrata where the peace loving women of Athens deny the warmongering men sexual pleasure, and the latter wander about angrily and frustratedly with vastly swollen members (muttering about woke bitches no doubt).
    Aristophanes Lysistrata
    Yes, but Beardsley did a famous series of illustrations based on it.

    Nsfw probably, but just tell them you're an aesthete.

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Aubrey_Beardsley_-_Lysistrata
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,645
    Cicero said:

    Looks like a money maker to sell short. Reform are not successfully countering the "Putin's puppet" charge. The Tories are recovering a little, and sufficiently to cancel out Reform in many seats.

    :lol:

    Always love a bit of 'my political view' gussied up as 'informed commentary' here.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,294
    Dura_Ace said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    Isn't the point, rather, that there is an excess of young males amongst Reform voters? And a distinct deficit of females? Your thinking would be relevant to Young Conservatives c. 1950s, sure, but Reform in 2026?
    Fukkers will have to adapt to reproduce asexually like aphids (with whom they share intellectual capacity) or sharks (with whom they share a system of ethics).
    Sociopaths lecturing people on ethics? Got to admire the chutzpah I suppose.

    Come across some social media discussion as to why the BBC is giving so little prominence to what is happening in Iran. John Simpson explained that it's all rather difficult as international media are banned from the country. A bit like Gaza.....

    Of course that hasn't stopped the BBC reporting on Gaza.
  • TazTaz Posts: 23,550

    Dura_Ace said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    Isn't the point, rather, that there is an excess of young males amongst Reform voters? And a distinct deficit of females? Your thinking would be relevant to Young Conservatives c. 1950s, sure, but Reform in 2026?
    Fukkers will have to adapt to reproduce asexually like aphids (with whom they share intellectual capacity) or sharks (with whom they share a system of ethics).
    Sociopaths lecturing people on ethics? Got to admire the chutzpah I suppose.

    Come across some social media discussion as to why the BBC is giving so little prominence to what is happening in Iran. John Simpson explained that it's all rather difficult as international media are banned from the country. A bit like Gaza.....

    Of course that hasn't stopped the BBC reporting on Gaza.
    They filmed a whole documentary there narrated by the son of a Hamas official 😂😂😂😂
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,283
    edited 10:22AM

    Dura_Ace said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    Isn't the point, rather, that there is an excess of young males amongst Reform voters? And a distinct deficit of females? Your thinking would be relevant to Young Conservatives c. 1950s, sure, but Reform in 2026?
    Fukkers will have to adapt to reproduce asexually like aphids (with whom they share intellectual capacity) or sharks (with whom they share a system of ethics).
    Sociopaths lecturing people on ethics? Got to admire the chutzpah I suppose.

    Come across some social media discussion as to why the BBC is giving so little prominence to what is happening in Iran. John Simpson explained that it's all rather difficult as international media are banned from the country. A bit like Gaza.....

    Of course that hasn't stopped the BBC reporting on Gaza.
    Checking, the BBC news website was giving 50% more coverage to Iran this last month than to Gaza. Edit: using the search function.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,117

    Cicero said:

    Looks like a money maker to sell short. Reform are not successfully countering the "Putin's puppet" charge. The Tories are recovering a little, and sufficiently to cancel out Reform in many seats.

    :lol:

    Always love a bit of 'my political view' gussied up as 'informed commentary' here.
    The wikiworm graph has its quirks (including the GIGO of just averaging all the inputs when some of them are systematically wrong, we just don't know which ines). But it ought to get relative changes right. And that does show Ref and Lab down, Con and Green up since the summer;



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election

    But also- there's a lot of time left, and a lot of trends still to bend.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,342
    Taz said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    Isn't the point, rather, that there is an excess of young males amongst Reform voters? And a distinct deficit of females? Your thinking would be relevant to Young Conservatives c. 1950s, sure, but Reform in 2026?
    Fukkers will have to adapt to reproduce asexually like aphids (with whom they share intellectual capacity) or sharks (with whom they share a system of ethics).
    Sociopaths lecturing people on ethics? Got to admire the chutzpah I suppose.

    Come across some social media discussion as to why the BBC is giving so little prominence to what is happening in Iran. John Simpson explained that it's all rather difficult as international media are banned from the country. A bit like Gaza.....

    Of course that hasn't stopped the BBC reporting on Gaza.
    They filmed a whole documentary there narrated by the son of a Hamas official 😂😂😂😂
    I couldn't really see what would have been wrong with showing that, although of course it would only have been right to warn audiences of the 'history' of the narrator.
    The IDF and the Israeli Government went so far out of their way to deny access and put their own view across that one couldn't trust a word they said..
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,154
    Carnyx said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    Isn't the point, rather, that there is an excess of young males amongst Reform voters? And a distinct deficit of females? Your thinking would be relevant to Young Conservatives c. 1950s, sure, but Reform in 2026?
    Fukkers will have to adapt to reproduce asexually like aphids (with whom they share intellectual capacity) or sharks (with whom they share a system of ethics).
    Sociopaths lecturing people on ethics? Got to admire the chutzpah I suppose.

    Come across some social media discussion as to why the BBC is giving so little prominence to what is happening in Iran. John Simpson explained that it's all rather difficult as international media are banned from the country. A bit like Gaza.....

    Of course that hasn't stopped the BBC reporting on Gaza.
    Checking, the BBC news website was giving 50% more coverage to Iran this last month than to Gaza. Edit: using the search function.
    Oh dear. Next it will be 'Yes but that 50% more coverage is not entirely negative about the Iran regime!!'

    I suppose the loons have to find something new to be outraged about now that their deranged Sadiq removed the Star of David claims have proved to be predictably baseless.

  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,294
    Carnyx said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    Isn't the point, rather, that there is an excess of young males amongst Reform voters? And a distinct deficit of females? Your thinking would be relevant to Young Conservatives c. 1950s, sure, but Reform in 2026?
    Fukkers will have to adapt to reproduce asexually like aphids (with whom they share intellectual capacity) or sharks (with whom they share a system of ethics).
    Sociopaths lecturing people on ethics? Got to admire the chutzpah I suppose.

    Come across some social media discussion as to why the BBC is giving so little prominence to what is happening in Iran. John Simpson explained that it's all rather difficult as international media are banned from the country. A bit like Gaza.....

    Of course that hasn't stopped the BBC reporting on Gaza.
    Checking, the BBC news website was giving 50% more coverage to Iran this last month than to Gaza. Edit: using the search function.
    I've just gone on the BBC news site.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

    Nothing that I can see on the front page with regard to the current disruption there. Whereas at the top there is a tab for Israel-Gaza war next to Home/In depth.

    People like you and Bondegezou are obsessed. You probably think when someone gets accused of something in a front page spread and then a correction is printed on page 23 that's reasonable.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,642

    Cicero said:

    Looks like a money maker to sell short. Reform are not successfully countering the "Putin's puppet" charge. The Tories are recovering a little, and sufficiently to cancel out Reform in many seats.

    :lol:

    Always love a bit of 'my political view' gussied up as 'informed commentary' here.
    What is the difference, exactly?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,294
    Iran is mentioned on the world news page. Along with Japan's PM calling for more female toilets in Parliament.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 36,100

    Taz said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    Isn't the point, rather, that there is an excess of young males amongst Reform voters? And a distinct deficit of females? Your thinking would be relevant to Young Conservatives c. 1950s, sure, but Reform in 2026?
    Fukkers will have to adapt to reproduce asexually like aphids (with whom they share intellectual capacity) or sharks (with whom they share a system of ethics).
    Sociopaths lecturing people on ethics? Got to admire the chutzpah I suppose.

    Come across some social media discussion as to why the BBC is giving so little prominence to what is happening in Iran. John Simpson explained that it's all rather difficult as international media are banned from the country. A bit like Gaza.....

    Of course that hasn't stopped the BBC reporting on Gaza.
    They filmed a whole documentary there narrated by the son of a Hamas official 😂😂😂😂
    I couldn't really see what would have been wrong with showing that, although of course it would only have been right to warn audiences of the 'history' of the narrator.
    The IDF and the Israeli Government went so far out of their way to deny access and put their own view across that one couldn't trust a word they said..
    Of course the flip side to that is whenever BBC R4 want a "unbiased" view of the Israel/Gaza war they often call on the services of Elon Levy.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,645

    Cicero said:

    Looks like a money maker to sell short. Reform are not successfully countering the "Putin's puppet" charge. The Tories are recovering a little, and sufficiently to cancel out Reform in many seats.

    :lol:

    Always love a bit of 'my political view' gussied up as 'informed commentary' here.
    What is the difference, exactly?
    One is an expression of preference, the other is an assessment of probable future events based on the available evidence.
  • Foxy said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Gen Z dating terms explained here.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/01/gen-z-dating-terms-explained?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

    The article linked to under "gooner" is one of the most disturbing things that I have read this year. A more plausible explanation for the drop in TFR than misandrist college professors.
    Is there a specific term for subtle click baiting?
    The Guardian is staffed by master baiters, after all.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,642

    Cicero said:

    Looks like a money maker to sell short. Reform are not successfully countering the "Putin's puppet" charge. The Tories are recovering a little, and sufficiently to cancel out Reform in many seats.

    :lol:

    Always love a bit of 'my political view' gussied up as 'informed commentary' here.
    What is the difference, exactly?
    One is an expression of preference, the other is an assessment of probable future events based on the available evidence.
    Everyone claims to do the latter, while doing the former.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,645

    Cicero said:

    Looks like a money maker to sell short. Reform are not successfully countering the "Putin's puppet" charge. The Tories are recovering a little, and sufficiently to cancel out Reform in many seats.

    :lol:

    Always love a bit of 'my political view' gussied up as 'informed commentary' here.
    What is the difference, exactly?
    One is an expression of preference, the other is an assessment of probable future events based on the available evidence.
    Everyone claims to do the latter, while doing the former.
    Quite.
  • TazTaz Posts: 23,550

    Carnyx said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    Isn't the point, rather, that there is an excess of young males amongst Reform voters? And a distinct deficit of females? Your thinking would be relevant to Young Conservatives c. 1950s, sure, but Reform in 2026?
    Fukkers will have to adapt to reproduce asexually like aphids (with whom they share intellectual capacity) or sharks (with whom they share a system of ethics).
    Sociopaths lecturing people on ethics? Got to admire the chutzpah I suppose.

    Come across some social media discussion as to why the BBC is giving so little prominence to what is happening in Iran. John Simpson explained that it's all rather difficult as international media are banned from the country. A bit like Gaza.....

    Of course that hasn't stopped the BBC reporting on Gaza.
    Checking, the BBC news website was giving 50% more coverage to Iran this last month than to Gaza. Edit: using the search function.
    I've just gone on the BBC news site.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

    Nothing that I can see on the front page with regard to the current disruption there. Whereas at the top there is a tab for Israel-Gaza war next to Home/In depth.

    People like you and Bondegezou are obsessed. You probably think when someone gets accused of something in a front page spread and then a correction is printed on page 23 that's reasonable.
    BBC breakfast news carried a small piece about it, the protests are down to cost of living issues.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 13,461
    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    On the substantive, parties can win seats without doing very much if a) they are popular and b) none of their opponents are doing very much to stop them. I don't know the situation regarding the local organisations of, for example, Labour in Amber Valley or the Conservatives in Hornchurch & Upminster but, and I can speak for the former, they aren't moribund and when the election comes, it will be interesting to see Reform have any "ground game" or whether it is a social media chimera.

    Reform certainly have plenty of angry people to shrill for them on X or wherever but that's not the same as working in communties and the record of the Reform County Councils elected in May is likely to undermine some of their more grandiose claims around Council Tax cuts.

    We know there's a tension between the Thatcherite aspirations of Farage and Tice for large scale spending cuts and tax cuts for the rich and the ex-Labour Reform voter base which wants money spent on local services in WWC areas (and not on migrants in hotels). I imagine Farage will try to keep both on side and end up losing both as the contradictions of his "policy" are laid bare.

    Ask me on a cold January morning more than three years before the event (if you must), my view is Labour will be the largest party though possibly short of a majority and the intriguing question(s) are whether Labour plus LD will be a majority or whether Reform plus Conservative will be a majority (possibly neither will be the case).

    The other side of this question is whether the next election will be Labour vs Not Labour or Reform vs Not Reform or both and sometimes both in the same constituencies.

    Regarding Reform and their ground game, the normal assumption is that they don't have one and they definitely didn't used to, but that is a dangerous assumption now. Some time ago they said that they were aiming to copy the LDs implying they know what they need to do. At the last GE in Guildford (where they had no chance) their leaflets were excellent and I reckon they probably out performed the Tories that were down to a handful of activists.

    In terms of the dating question (although that is academic now) I would not date a smoker, someone with poor hygiene or bad manners. I didn't care if they were living at home. Regarding politics that does matter but there would be a broadish range that was acceptable. My wife is not a LD. She is a floating voter. I could not date someone who was religious.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,294
    Taz said:

    Carnyx said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Supporting Reform UK is huge dating ‘ick’, poll finds

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/supporting-reform-uk-is-dating-ick-poll-finds-401771/

    “According to a poll by Wisp, the dating app that prioritises getting singletons meeting face-to-face, Reform UK voters have officially been crowned the number one political ‘ick’ among British singles.

    “Almost three-quarters (72%) of respondents said they’d be “put off” if they found out a match on a dating app was a Reform supporter.

    “In a survey of 1,000 Wisp users aged 25-40, political affiliation (39%) ranked higher than smoking (22%), poor hygiene (17%), bad manners (12%), or even living with parents (10%) when it came to dating red flags.”

    Nothing to stop Reform voters dating Reform voters
    Isn't the point, rather, that there is an excess of young males amongst Reform voters? And a distinct deficit of females? Your thinking would be relevant to Young Conservatives c. 1950s, sure, but Reform in 2026?
    Fukkers will have to adapt to reproduce asexually like aphids (with whom they share intellectual capacity) or sharks (with whom they share a system of ethics).
    Sociopaths lecturing people on ethics? Got to admire the chutzpah I suppose.

    Come across some social media discussion as to why the BBC is giving so little prominence to what is happening in Iran. John Simpson explained that it's all rather difficult as international media are banned from the country. A bit like Gaza.....

    Of course that hasn't stopped the BBC reporting on Gaza.
    Checking, the BBC news website was giving 50% more coverage to Iran this last month than to Gaza. Edit: using the search function.
    I've just gone on the BBC news site.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

    Nothing that I can see on the front page with regard to the current disruption there. Whereas at the top there is a tab for Israel-Gaza war next to Home/In depth.

    People like you and Bondegezou are obsessed. You probably think when someone gets accused of something in a front page spread and then a correction is printed on page 23 that's reasonable.
    BBC breakfast news carried a small piece about it, the protests are down to cost of living issues.
    To be fair someone did commend the BBC Persian service as being a highly valuable entity.
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