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My favourite betting chart of 2025 – politicalbetting.com

It also serves as a reminder that you shouldn’t bet on the next Pope markets as is the epitome of an insiders’ market, which is what I wrote when JD Vance Liz Trussed Pope France.

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  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,566
    First, line a Chicago Pope!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,421
    Train journeys available for just £10 in winter ‘rail sale’

    Four million discounted tickets will be available from next Tuesday in an effort to boost domestic tourism during the colder months


    The cost of almost four million rail tickets will be slashed for a week as part of a government scheme intended to ease the cost of living crisis.

    Discounted tickets will be available to buy from next Tuesday and will apply to off-peak fares for thousands of trips between January 13 and March 25.

    Ministers hope that the Rail Sale giveaway will boost domestic tourism during the fallow winter months.

    Tickets for the Exeter to London Waterloo service will fall to £10, a 76 per cent reduction on the usual price of £41.70. The cost of a ticket from London St Pancras to Whitstable will be halved to £7.50, while a ticket from Sheffield to London will fall to £25.50.

    Nearly every train operating company is taking part, the Department for Transport said, with discounted tickets available on services across the country.

    The scheme first ran in 2022 to attract passengers back to the railways after the pandemic. Last year, over one million discounted tickets were sold, bringing in more than £9 million in revenue. Industry figures have suggested that the scheme encouraged about 70,000 adults who had not travelled by train since the pandemic to book a rail journey.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/transport/article/rail-sale-2026-discount-tickets-zr83qs9gc
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,566
    The Pope on cinema:

    "One of cinema’s most valuable contributions is helping audiences consider their own lives, look at the complexity of their experiences with new eyes and examine the world as if for the first time., In doing so, they rediscover a portion of the hope that is essential for humanity to live to the fullest. I find comfort in the thought that cinema is not just moving pictures; it sets hope in motion.

    (Edit)

    "The logic of algorithms tends to repeat what “works,” but art opens up what is possible. Not everything has to be immediate or predictable. Defend slowness when it serves a purpose, silence when it speaks and difference when evocative. Beauty is not just a means of escape; it is, above all, an invocation. When cinema is authentic, it does not merely console but challenges. It articulates the questions that dwell within us and sometimes even provokes tears that we did not know we needed to express."

    From: https://deadline.com/2025/11/pope-leo-xiv-cinema-speech-a-list-crowd-read-his-speech-1236618389/

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,421
    Mums eh?

    ‘Vile twats’ — Luke Littler’s mum blasts darts fans who booed her son

    Pumped-up 18-year-old told crowd ‘you pay for my prize money’ after reaching last eight but his mum Lisa had more choice words for his critics


    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/darts/article/charlie-manby-world-championship-darts-0fmldvl0t
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,421
    Foxy said:

    The Pope on cinema:

    "One of cinema’s most valuable contributions is helping audiences consider their own lives, look at the complexity of their experiences with new eyes and examine the world as if for the first time., In doing so, they rediscover a portion of the hope that is essential for humanity to live to the fullest. I find comfort in the thought that cinema is not just moving pictures; it sets hope in motion.

    (Edit)

    "The logic of algorithms tends to repeat what “works,” but art opens up what is possible. Not everything has to be immediate or predictable. Defend slowness when it serves a purpose, silence when it speaks and difference when evocative. Beauty is not just a means of escape; it is, above all, an invocation. When cinema is authentic, it does not merely console but challenges. It articulates the questions that dwell within us and sometimes even provokes tears that we did not know we needed to express."

    From: https://deadline.com/2025/11/pope-leo-xiv-cinema-speech-a-list-crowd-read-his-speech-1236618389/

    If only he had quoted a fellow native of Chicago.

    You wanna know how to get Capone? They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. *That's* the *Chicago* way! And that's how you get Capone. Now do you want to do that? Are you ready to do that? I'm offering you a deal. Do you want this deal?
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,303

    Mums eh?

    ‘Vile twats’ — Luke Littler’s mum blasts darts fans who booed her son

    Pumped-up 18-year-old told crowd ‘you pay for my prize money’ after reaching last eight but his mum Lisa had more choice words for his critics


    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/darts/article/charlie-manby-world-championship-darts-0fmldvl0t

    What a load of bull, it is just a modern Xmas pantomime not a reflection on anyone's character.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,924
    But, can you vote on the colour of the Pope's tie the next time he speaks from the balcony?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,141
    edited 8:25AM
    Foxy said:

    The Pope on cinema:

    "One of cinema’s most valuable contributions is helping audiences consider their own lives, look at the complexity of their experiences with new eyes and examine the world as if for the first time., In doing so, they rediscover a portion of the hope that is essential for humanity to live to the fullest. I find comfort in the thought that cinema is not just moving pictures; it sets hope in motion.

    (Edit)

    "The logic of algorithms tends to repeat what “works,” but art opens up what is possible. Not everything has to be immediate or predictable. Defend slowness when it serves a purpose, silence when it speaks and difference when evocative. Beauty is not just a means of escape; it is, above all, an invocation. When cinema is authentic, it does not merely console but challenges. It articulates the questions that dwell within us and sometimes even provokes tears that we did not know we needed to express."

    From: https://deadline.com/2025/11/pope-leo-xiv-cinema-speech-a-list-crowd-read-his-speech-1236618389/

    The Pope gives every sign of being a good egg. Not many divisions unfortunately.

    Speaking of art, might it be said that there’s a Trump aesthetic sweeping the nations?

    https://x.com/caolanreports/status/2006027162130759816?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,924

    Mums eh?

    ‘Vile twats’ — Luke Littler’s mum blasts darts fans who booed her son

    Pumped-up 18-year-old told crowd ‘you pay for my prize money’ after reaching last eight but his mum Lisa had more choice words for his critics


    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/darts/article/charlie-manby-world-championship-darts-0fmldvl0t

    Incredibly, his birthday is next month.

    And he'll still be a teenager.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,924

    Foxy said:

    The Pope on cinema:

    "One of cinema’s most valuable contributions is helping audiences consider their own lives, look at the complexity of their experiences with new eyes and examine the world as if for the first time., In doing so, they rediscover a portion of the hope that is essential for humanity to live to the fullest. I find comfort in the thought that cinema is not just moving pictures; it sets hope in motion.

    (Edit)

    "The logic of algorithms tends to repeat what “works,” but art opens up what is possible. Not everything has to be immediate or predictable. Defend slowness when it serves a purpose, silence when it speaks and difference when evocative. Beauty is not just a means of escape; it is, above all, an invocation. When cinema is authentic, it does not merely console but challenges. It articulates the questions that dwell within us and sometimes even provokes tears that we did not know we needed to express."

    From: https://deadline.com/2025/11/pope-leo-xiv-cinema-speech-a-list-crowd-read-his-speech-1236618389/

    If only he had quoted a fellow native of Chicago.

    You wanna know how to get Capone? They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. *That's* the *Chicago* way! And that's how you get Capone. Now do you want to do that? Are you ready to do that? I'm offering you a deal. Do you want this deal?
    That's Sean Connery.

    And I can't read that quote without hearing his voice.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,566
    Its a great chart.

    When do we get the results of the PB predictions contest. I fear that I didn't do too well.

    I shall work on some better 2026 predictions.

    Welsh, Scottish and English Locals, US Mid Terms, possible leadership changes, any other political bets this year?

    I see the Russian Duma is on the list, Zambia and Brazil presidents but not a lot else planned.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2026
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,924

    Mums eh?

    ‘Vile twats’ — Luke Littler’s mum blasts darts fans who booed her son

    Pumped-up 18-year-old told crowd ‘you pay for my prize money’ after reaching last eight but his mum Lisa had more choice words for his critics


    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/darts/article/charlie-manby-world-championship-darts-0fmldvl0t

    What a load of bull, it is just a modern Xmas pantomime not a reflection on anyone's character.
    I went to see a modern Xmas pantomime with my daughter yesterday.

    It was camper than the 3rd World Scout Jamboree, and the innuendos were so blatant it'd have made Eagles blush.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,950
    Proof that Catholics can keep secrets, no-one had a clue who the Conclave had chosen until Leo XIV was putting on his robe to appear on the Vatican balcony?

    Oh, and who’s “Pope France”?
  • stodgestodge Posts: 15,779
    edited 8:31AM
    Morning all :)

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ge0jlygr2o

    Both John and Amy Hunt have been so magnificent in recent times - a real inspiration - despite a terrible overwhelming tragedy.

    The point though isn't just to praise them, deserved though it is, but a reminder the issue of violence against women is very real and actual and should be where Government concentrates its efforts (along with child poverty and homelessness) rather than the froth of other issues.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,740

    Mums eh?

    ‘Vile twats’ — Luke Littler’s mum blasts darts fans who booed her son

    Pumped-up 18-year-old told crowd ‘you pay for my prize money’ after reaching last eight but his mum Lisa had more choice words for his critics


    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/darts/article/charlie-manby-world-championship-darts-0fmldvl0t

    What a load of bull, it is just a modern Xmas pantomime not a reflection on anyone's character.
    I went to see a modern Xmas pantomime with my daughter yesterday.

    It was camper than the 3rd World Scout Jamboree, and the innuendos were so blatant it'd have made Eagles blush.
    Were they as subtle as they were modest though?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,464
    edited 8:37AM
    Foxy said:

    Its a great chart.

    When do we get the results of the PB predictions contest. I fear that I didn't do too well.

    I shall work on some better 2026 predictions.

    Welsh, Scottish and English Locals, US Mid Terms, possible leadership changes, any other political bets this year?

    I see the Russian Duma is on the list, Zambia and Brazil presidents but not a lot else planned.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2026

    Something about the endurance of Zak Polansky, and also Stuart Yaxley-Lennon, and perhaps about Councils declaring "bankruptcy".

    Total MPs in the Commons by Party at the end of the Year, US mid-terms Senate and House as you say, and something suitable about the Lords.

    COVID Protective Gear prosecutions, or is it too soon?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,366
    F1: A little while ago I had a small sum on Williams boosted to 46 for the Constructors. Should be shorter, although still very much an outside shot.

    I've also put tiny sums just now on Sainz and Albon, each boosted to 81 each way (third odds top 2) for Australia. If Williams do make a great leap forward this will be value, although, again, still very much an outside shot.

    Russell's too short to lock up money on the title race. I may yet back Alonso (each way) but that market isn't up yet.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,950

    Mums eh?

    ‘Vile twats’ — Luke Littler’s mum blasts darts fans who booed her son

    Pumped-up 18-year-old told crowd ‘you pay for my prize money’ after reaching last eight but his mum Lisa had more choice words for his critics


    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/darts/article/charlie-manby-world-championship-darts-0fmldvl0t

    Incredibly, his birthday is next month.

    And he'll still be a teenager.
    He could be the youngest SPOTY for six decades. Darts does suffer from the schedule though, with the biggest championships being very early in the calendar year.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,464

    Mums eh?

    ‘Vile twats’ — Luke Littler’s mum blasts darts fans who booed her son

    Pumped-up 18-year-old told crowd ‘you pay for my prize money’ after reaching last eight but his mum Lisa had more choice words for his critics


    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/darts/article/charlie-manby-world-championship-darts-0fmldvl0t

    Incredibly, his birthday is next month.

    And he'll still be a teenager.
    At least it's more polite than football crowds.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,421
    Sandpit said:

    Proof that Catholics can keep secrets, no-one had a clue who the Conclave had chosen until Leo XIV was putting on his robe to appear on the Vatican balcony?

    Oh, and who’s “Pope France”?

    An autocorrect fail.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,096
    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,950
    edited 8:37AM

    F1: A little while ago I had a small sum on Williams boosted to 46 for the Constructors. Should be shorter, although still very much an outside shot.

    I've also put tiny sums just now on Sainz and Albon, each boosted to 81 each way (third odds top 2) for Australia. If Williams do make a great leap forward this will be value, although, again, still very much an outside shot.

    Russell's too short to lock up money on the title race. I may yet back Alonso (each way) but that market isn't up yet.

    Good shout on Williams. The last time they were up there was 2014, thanks to superior Mercedes power units, and the rumours are that the team from Brixworth has done another good job at the new regulations. Russell is probably right to be a short favourite for the Drivers’ Championship at this stage.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,421
    Foxy said:

    Its a great chart.

    When do we get the results of the PB predictions contest. I fear that I didn't do too well.

    I shall work on some better 2026 predictions.

    Welsh, Scottish and English Locals, US Mid Terms, possible leadership changes, any other political bets this year?

    I see the Russian Duma is on the list, Zambia and Brazil presidents but not a lot else planned.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2026

    Once the final Ashes test is finished so maybe by Monday.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,740

    Sandpit said:

    Proof that Catholics can keep secrets, no-one had a clue who the Conclave had chosen until Leo XIV was putting on his robe to appear on the Vatican balcony?

    Oh, and who’s “Pope France”?

    An autocorrect fail.
    Surely a reference to the Avignon popes and the Western schism? Or indeed Pope Clement V?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,421
    edited 8:40AM

    F1: A little while ago I had a small sum on Williams boosted to 46 for the Constructors. Should be shorter, although still very much an outside shot.

    I've also put tiny sums just now on Sainz and Albon, each boosted to 81 each way (third odds top 2) for Australia. If Williams do make a great leap forward this will be value, although, again, still very much an outside shot.

    Russell's too short to lock up money on the title race. I may yet back Alonso (each way) but that market isn't up yet.

    I am on Alonso as well as Russell & Antonelli.

    One theory doing the rounds is that 2026 might be the season that shows Lance Stroll is Luca Badoer/Nikita Mazepin with a rich dad and things could very badly at Aston Martin behind the scenes.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,740

    Foxy said:

    Its a great chart.

    When do we get the results of the PB predictions contest. I fear that I didn't do too well.

    I shall work on some better 2026 predictions.

    Welsh, Scottish and English Locals, US Mid Terms, possible leadership changes, any other political bets this year?

    I see the Russian Duma is on the list, Zambia and Brazil presidents but not a lot else planned.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2026

    Once the final Ashes test is finished so maybe by Monday.
    Does it start on Sunday? I’ve not been following the timetable.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,924
    ydoethur said:

    Mums eh?

    ‘Vile twats’ — Luke Littler’s mum blasts darts fans who booed her son

    Pumped-up 18-year-old told crowd ‘you pay for my prize money’ after reaching last eight but his mum Lisa had more choice words for his critics


    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/darts/article/charlie-manby-world-championship-darts-0fmldvl0t

    What a load of bull, it is just a modern Xmas pantomime not a reflection on anyone's character.
    I went to see a modern Xmas pantomime with my daughter yesterday.

    It was camper than the 3rd World Scout Jamboree, and the innuendos were so blatant it'd have made Eagles blush.
    Were they as subtle as they were modest though?
    No. I was shocked:

    "Would you mind holding my muff?"

    "Ooh! I do enjoy a gentleman's finger!"
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,265
    MattW said:

    Foxy said:

    Its a great chart.

    When do we get the results of the PB predictions contest. I fear that I didn't do too well.

    I shall work on some better 2026 predictions.

    Welsh, Scottish and English Locals, US Mid Terms, possible leadership changes, any other political bets this year?

    I see the Russian Duma is on the list, Zambia and Brazil presidents but not a lot else planned.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2026

    Something about the endurance of Zak Polansky, and also Stuart Yaxley-Lennon, and perhaps about Councils declaring "bankruptcy".

    Total MPs in the Commons by Party at the end of the Year, US mid-terms Senate and House as you say, and something suitable about the Lords.

    COVID Protective Gear prosecutions, or is it too soon?
    I wouldn't bother betting on local elections in Scotland. There aren't any till 2027. Might be more fruitful to pay attention to the Scottish Parliamentary election ...
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,421
    ydoethur said:

    Sandpit said:

    Proof that Catholics can keep secrets, no-one had a clue who the Conclave had chosen until Leo XIV was putting on his robe to appear on the Vatican balcony?

    Oh, and who’s “Pope France”?

    An autocorrect fail.
    Surely a reference to the Avignon popes and the Western schism? Or indeed Pope Clement V?
    None of those popes were Liz Trussed by JD Vance though.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,421
    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    Its a great chart.

    When do we get the results of the PB predictions contest. I fear that I didn't do too well.

    I shall work on some better 2026 predictions.

    Welsh, Scottish and English Locals, US Mid Terms, possible leadership changes, any other political bets this year?

    I see the Russian Duma is on the list, Zambia and Brazil presidents but not a lot else planned.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2026

    Once the final Ashes test is finished so maybe by Monday.
    Does it start on Sunday? I’ve not been following the timetable.
    Starts Saturday 23.30 GMT.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,366
    Sandpit said:

    F1: A little while ago I had a small sum on Williams boosted to 46 for the Constructors. Should be shorter, although still very much an outside shot.

    I've also put tiny sums just now on Sainz and Albon, each boosted to 81 each way (third odds top 2) for Australia. If Williams do make a great leap forward this will be value, although, again, still very much an outside shot.

    Russell's too short to lock up money on the title race. I may yet back Alonso (each way) but that market isn't up yet.

    Good shout on Williams. The last time they were up there was 2014, thanks to superior Mercedes power units, and the rumours are that the team from Brixworth has done another good job at the new regulations. Russell is probably right to be a short favourite for the Drivers’ Championship at this stage.
    I agree on Russell, but don't want to lock up cash at odds that short, for that long.

    F1: A little while ago I had a small sum on Williams boosted to 46 for the Constructors. Should be shorter, although still very much an outside shot.

    I've also put tiny sums just now on Sainz and Albon, each boosted to 81 each way (third odds top 2) for Australia. If Williams do make a great leap forward this will be value, although, again, still very much an outside shot.

    Russell's too short to lock up money on the title race. I may yet back Alonso (each way) but that market isn't up yet.

    I am on Alonso as well as Russell & Antonelli.

    One theory doing the rounds is that 2026 might be the season that shows Lance Stroll is Luca Badoer/Nikita Mazepin with a rich dad and things could very badly at Aston Martin behind the scenes.
    Antonelli's got the speed and his defence in Canada and Brazil was fantastic. But he does have a few rough edges, had awful lapses mid-season, and he needs to get legislation passed to permit titanium dioxide sales in every country in the world.

    Alonso's a decent shout. If the each way market isn't up pre-first test I might back him anyway. We shall see.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,566

    Mums eh?

    ‘Vile twats’ — Luke Littler’s mum blasts darts fans who booed her son

    Pumped-up 18-year-old told crowd ‘you pay for my prize money’ after reaching last eight but his mum Lisa had more choice words for his critics


    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/darts/article/charlie-manby-world-championship-darts-0fmldvl0t

    What a load of bull, it is just a modern Xmas pantomime not a reflection on anyone's character.
    I went to see a modern Xmas pantomime with my daughter yesterday.

    It was camper than the 3rd World Scout Jamboree, and the innuendos were so blatant it'd have made Eagles blush.
    The Dame is a man and the Principal boy is a young woman. The 4th wall is broken beyond repair, smutty jokes in front of children, what a marvellous British tradition.

    I think live events are increasingly valued in a digital world. One heartening thing about 2025 is that we seem to be past peak Social Media in 2022:

    https://influence.digital/posts/have-we-passed-peak-social-media
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,464
    ydoethur said:

    Mums eh?

    ‘Vile twats’ — Luke Littler’s mum blasts darts fans who booed her son

    Pumped-up 18-year-old told crowd ‘you pay for my prize money’ after reaching last eight but his mum Lisa had more choice words for his critics


    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/darts/article/charlie-manby-world-championship-darts-0fmldvl0t

    What a load of bull, it is just a modern Xmas pantomime not a reflection on anyone's character.
    I went to see a modern Xmas pantomime with my daughter yesterday.

    It was camper than the 3rd World Scout Jamboree, and the innuendos were so blatant it'd have made Eagles blush.
    Were they as subtle as they were modest though?
    My favourite recent double entendre without any subtlety whatsoever is that Tommy Robinsons looks like a "badly-shaved front" (rhyming slang in my quote), which is both a Tommy Robinson issue, and a goatee issue.

    Perhaps parents still imagine that their little darlings are little darlings. Twas ever thus.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,758
    edited 8:45AM
    Slight nitpick but doesn't the chart show this was the opposite of an insider's market? ie no-one playing it had prior knowledge?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,464
    edited 8:53AM

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    It can't be the entire story, because in funding of pension systems we are pretty much right at the bottom of the league both by expenditure amongst developed countries (with the Anglosphere and some Asians - though I do not see that latter holding given demograhics), and by how said expenditure is increasing.

    It's a debate unfortunately dominated by shouting
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,433

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    Its a great chart.

    When do we get the results of the PB predictions contest. I fear that I didn't do too well.

    I shall work on some better 2026 predictions.

    Welsh, Scottish and English Locals, US Mid Terms, possible leadership changes, any other political bets this year?

    I see the Russian Duma is on the list, Zambia and Brazil presidents but not a lot else planned.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2026

    Once the final Ashes test is finished so maybe by Monday.
    Does it start on Sunday? I’ve not been following the timetable.
    Starts Saturday 23.30 GMT.
    Gonna be the flattest of flat tracks, I reckon: 5 day bore fest and 3-1 series win for Aus.
  • TazTaz Posts: 23,498
    Labours Joe Dromey, take the battle to the greens as well as Reform

    Are labour finally waking up to the threat of the Zack attack ?

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/dec/31/zack-polanski-offering-voters-unicorns-and-fantasy-solutions-says-head-of-fabian-society
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,924
    Foxy said:

    Mums eh?

    ‘Vile twats’ — Luke Littler’s mum blasts darts fans who booed her son

    Pumped-up 18-year-old told crowd ‘you pay for my prize money’ after reaching last eight but his mum Lisa had more choice words for his critics


    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/darts/article/charlie-manby-world-championship-darts-0fmldvl0t

    What a load of bull, it is just a modern Xmas pantomime not a reflection on anyone's character.
    I went to see a modern Xmas pantomime with my daughter yesterday.

    It was camper than the 3rd World Scout Jamboree, and the innuendos were so blatant it'd have made Eagles blush.
    The Dame is a man and the Principal boy is a young woman. The 4th wall is broken beyond repair, smutty jokes in front of children, what a marvellous British tradition.

    I think live events are increasingly valued in a digital world. One heartening thing about 2025 is that we seem to be past peak Social Media in 2022:

    https://influence.digital/posts/have-we-passed-peak-social-media
    It was like watching Mrs Brown's Boys.

    At least my daughter enjoyed it.
  • TazTaz Posts: 23,498
    MattW said:

    ydoethur said:

    Mums eh?

    ‘Vile twats’ — Luke Littler’s mum blasts darts fans who booed her son

    Pumped-up 18-year-old told crowd ‘you pay for my prize money’ after reaching last eight but his mum Lisa had more choice words for his critics


    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/darts/article/charlie-manby-world-championship-darts-0fmldvl0t

    What a load of bull, it is just a modern Xmas pantomime not a reflection on anyone's character.
    I went to see a modern Xmas pantomime with my daughter yesterday.

    It was camper than the 3rd World Scout Jamboree, and the innuendos were so blatant it'd have made Eagles blush.
    Were they as subtle as they were modest though?
    My favourite recent double entendre without any subtlety whatsoever is that Tommy Robinsons looks like a "badly-shaved front" (rhyming slang in my quote), which is both a Tommy Robinson issue, and a goatee issue.

    Perhaps parents still imagine that their little darlings are little darlings. Twas ever thus.
    What, like the last turkey in the shop ?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,464
    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    Foxy said:

    Its a great chart.

    When do we get the results of the PB predictions contest. I fear that I didn't do too well.

    I shall work on some better 2026 predictions.

    Welsh, Scottish and English Locals, US Mid Terms, possible leadership changes, any other political bets this year?

    I see the Russian Duma is on the list, Zambia and Brazil presidents but not a lot else planned.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2026

    Something about the endurance of Zak Polansky, and also Stuart Yaxley-Lennon, and perhaps about Councils declaring "bankruptcy".

    Total MPs in the Commons by Party at the end of the Year, US mid-terms Senate and House as you say, and something suitable about the Lords.

    COVID Protective Gear prosecutions, or is it too soon?
    I wouldn't bother betting on local elections in Scotland. There aren't any till 2027. Might be more fruitful to pay attention to the Scottish Parliamentary election ...
    Some might argue that the Hollyrood Elections ARE a local election :wink: .
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 5,314

    Mums eh?

    ‘Vile twats’ — Luke Littler’s mum blasts darts fans who booed her son

    Pumped-up 18-year-old told crowd ‘you pay for my prize money’ after reaching last eight but his mum Lisa had more choice words for his critics


    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/darts/article/charlie-manby-world-championship-darts-0fmldvl0t

    What a load of bull, it is just a modern Xmas pantomime not a reflection on anyone's character.
    Are you going to double down on that?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,924
    The new "Titantic Sinks Tonight" docudrama is quite good on the BBC. Interesting to see diary testimonies from real-life passengers who were actually there brought to life.

    Of course, it's very BBC. They simply can't resist crowbarring in kitsch and lopsided points on feminism, patriarchy and parallels to immigrants today, all of which they expect you to imbibe, but if you can see beyond that it's rather interesting.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,265
    MattW said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    Foxy said:

    Its a great chart.

    When do we get the results of the PB predictions contest. I fear that I didn't do too well.

    I shall work on some better 2026 predictions.

    Welsh, Scottish and English Locals, US Mid Terms, possible leadership changes, any other political bets this year?

    I see the Russian Duma is on the list, Zambia and Brazil presidents but not a lot else planned.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2026

    Something about the endurance of Zak Polansky, and also Stuart Yaxley-Lennon, and perhaps about Councils declaring "bankruptcy".

    Total MPs in the Commons by Party at the end of the Year, US mid-terms Senate and House as you say, and something suitable about the Lords.

    COVID Protective Gear prosecutions, or is it too soon?
    I wouldn't bother betting on local elections in Scotland. There aren't any till 2027. Might be more fruitful to pay attention to the Scottish Parliamentary election ...
    Some might argue that the Hollyrood Elections ARE a local election :wink: .
    Who do you think you are, Billy Connolly?!
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,464
    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    Foxy said:

    Its a great chart.

    When do we get the results of the PB predictions contest. I fear that I didn't do too well.

    I shall work on some better 2026 predictions.

    Welsh, Scottish and English Locals, US Mid Terms, possible leadership changes, any other political bets this year?

    I see the Russian Duma is on the list, Zambia and Brazil presidents but not a lot else planned.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2026

    Something about the endurance of Zak Polansky, and also Stuart Yaxley-Lennon, and perhaps about Councils declaring "bankruptcy".

    Total MPs in the Commons by Party at the end of the Year, US mid-terms Senate and House as you say, and something suitable about the Lords.

    COVID Protective Gear prosecutions, or is it too soon?
    I wouldn't bother betting on local elections in Scotland. There aren't any till 2027. Might be more fruitful to pay attention to the Scottish Parliamentary election ...
    Some might argue that the Hollyrood Elections ARE a local election :wink: .
    Who do you think you are, Billy Connolly?!
    I'll correct to Holyrood now it is New Year !
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,265
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    It can't be the entire story, because in funding of pension systems we are pretty much right at the bottom of the league both by expenditure amongst developed countries (with the Anglosphere and some Asians - though I do not see that latter holding given demograhics), and by how said expenditure is increasing.

    It's a debate unfortunately dominated by shouting
    Also by some trying to damn all state welfare as 'benefits' aka scrounger fodder (sic), to save ultimately on tax for the wealthy. As shown by the experience of the PBer who reported back the reaction to his statement that the State Pension wass a 'benefit' at the family Christmas dinner.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,141
    Vote, vote, vote for Nigel Farage!

    https://x.com/scotnational/status/2006284621944586340?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q

    I wish Dennis Potter was still around to put the boot in to the ghastly little grifter among other targets.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,566

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 21,591

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Britain has been living beyond its means for decades. The country has been selling off assets to fund itself, and not investing in its future. Thus, every year, more money has to go abroad to pay rent/dividends/debt interest to the foreigners who have funded the country to consume beyond its means.

    Thoughtful economic commentators have been writing about this for decades, but mostly the politicians have managed to kick the can just far enough down the road to avoid a reckoning. Perhaps Britain is finding that there's a great big wall at the end of the road, and it's not too far away now.

    To turn the country around for the long-term you need to first, stop spending beyond your means and then, second, create enough headroom to be able to invest so that the means expand in the future.

    That is going to be painful, so obviously no-one has done it.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,366
    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    You do realise we have an astonishingly high deficit and our debt interest payments dwarf our Defence budget? That's not a minor matter.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 17,771
    https://www.euronews.com/2025/12/30/ai-generated-videos-showing-young-and-attractive-women-promote-polands-eu-exit

    “AI-generated videos promoting Poland's exit from the European Union have appeared on Polish-language social media, featuring non-existent, attractive young women advocating for "Polexit".

    “One TikTok account called "Prawilne Polki" published content showing women dressed in T-shirts bearing Polish flags and patriotic symbols, European analytics collective Res Futura said. The content targeted audiences aged 15 to 25.”
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 1,217
    FF43 said:

    Slight nitpick but doesn't the chart show this was the opposite of an insider's market? ie no-one playing it had prior knowledge?

    Officially, the only insider is the holy spirit who is unable to get an online betting account due to being omniscient.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 17,771
    Stereodog said:

    FF43 said:

    Slight nitpick but doesn't the chart show this was the opposite of an insider's market? ie no-one playing it had prior knowledge?

    Officially, the only insider is the holy spirit who is unable to get an online betting account due to being omniscient.
    But also omnipotent, so could get an online betting account.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,950
    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The BBC already gets nearly £4bn in licence fee revenues.

    We can agree that the money would be better spent on the World Service, than on light entertainment and sports coverage which would be provided by the market.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,566

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    You do realise we have an astonishingly high deficit and our debt interest payments dwarf our Defence budget? That's not a minor matter.
    That sort of catastrophism is part of the problem. The deficit isn't particularly bad either by historic measures or in comparison to peer countries.

  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,950
    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    Its a great chart.

    When do we get the results of the PB predictions contest. I fear that I didn't do too well.

    I shall work on some better 2026 predictions.

    Welsh, Scottish and English Locals, US Mid Terms, possible leadership changes, any other political bets this year?

    I see the Russian Duma is on the list, Zambia and Brazil presidents but not a lot else planned.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2026

    Once the final Ashes test is finished so maybe by Monday.
    Does it start on Sunday? I’ve not been following the timetable.
    Yep, starts Sunday (around midnight Saturday UK time), so should be over by Monday.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,950
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    You do realise we have an astonishingly high deficit and our debt interest payments dwarf our Defence budget? That's not a minor matter.
    That sort of catastrophism is part of the problem. The deficit isn't particularly bad either by historic measures or in comparison to peer countries.

    The deficit so far this financial year is £132bn, the second highest on record after 2020 when we had a pandemic on, higher than in 2009 when there was a massive recession.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governmentpublicsectorandtaxes/publicsectorfinance/bulletins/publicsectorfinances/november2025

    It’s true that most of the West is up to their neck in debt, but that doesn’t make it a good thing!
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,322
    Sandpit said:

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    Its a great chart.

    When do we get the results of the PB predictions contest. I fear that I didn't do too well.

    I shall work on some better 2026 predictions.

    Welsh, Scottish and English Locals, US Mid Terms, possible leadership changes, any other political bets this year?

    I see the Russian Duma is on the list, Zambia and Brazil presidents but not a lot else planned.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2026

    Once the final Ashes test is finished so maybe by Monday.
    Does it start on Sunday? I’ve not been following the timetable.
    Yep, starts Sunday (around midnight Saturday UK time), so should be over by Monday.
    It might rain of course. It does in Sydney.

    And Good Morning everyone.
  • AugustusCarp2AugustusCarp2 Posts: 519
    If anyone is interested, I have done my latest annual summary of defections by local councillors. The article is here...

    https://liberalengland.blogspot.com/2025/12/guest-post-local-councillors-changing.html

    I still think this subject can tell us more about local Party morale than, say, council by elections.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,924
    Sandpit said:

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    You do realise we have an astonishingly high deficit and our debt interest payments dwarf our Defence budget? That's not a minor matter.
    That sort of catastrophism is part of the problem. The deficit isn't particularly bad either by historic measures or in comparison to peer countries.

    The deficit so far this financial year is £132bn, the second highest on record after 2020 when we had a pandemic on, higher than in 2009 when there was a massive recession.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governmentpublicsectorandtaxes/publicsectorfinance/bulletins/publicsectorfinances/november2025

    It’s true that most of the West is up to their neck in debt, but that doesn’t make it a good thing!
    It's f-ing mad.

    We are doing nothing about it, and are going to bankrupt ourselves.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 132,436
    In retrospect Pope Leo shouldn't have been that much of a shock, similar in doctrine and style to Pope Francis in a conclave Francis had filled with Cardinals who largely shared his views. He is also the first North American Pope
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 132,436
    Sandpit said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The BBC already gets nearly £4bn in licence fee revenues.

    We can agree that the money would be better spent on the World Service, than on light entertainment and sports coverage which would be provided by the market.
    The BBC still does sports coverage?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 17,771
    Sandpit said:

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    You do realise we have an astonishingly high deficit and our debt interest payments dwarf our Defence budget? That's not a minor matter.
    That sort of catastrophism is part of the problem. The deficit isn't particularly bad either by historic measures or in comparison to peer countries.

    The deficit so far this financial year is £132bn, the second highest on record after 2020 when we had a pandemic on, higher than in 2009 when there was a massive recession.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governmentpublicsectorandtaxes/publicsectorfinance/bulletins/publicsectorfinances/november2025

    It’s true that most of the West is up to their neck in debt, but that doesn’t make it a good thing!
    Is that adjusted for inflation or not?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 132,436
    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    Join a club, a choir, go to the pub, etc. Apps are not the only way to meet people
  • TresTres Posts: 3,345
    Sandpit said:

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    You do realise we have an astonishingly high deficit and our debt interest payments dwarf our Defence budget? That's not a minor matter.
    That sort of catastrophism is part of the problem. The deficit isn't particularly bad either by historic measures or in comparison to peer countries.

    The deficit so far this financial year is £132bn, the second highest on record after 2020 when we had a pandemic on, higher than in 2009 when there was a massive recession.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governmentpublicsectorandtaxes/publicsectorfinance/bulletins/publicsectorfinances/november2025

    It’s true that most of the West is up to their neck in debt, but that doesn’t make it a good thing!
    there's this thing called inflation..
  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,464
    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.
    I think this is important, but it will take time to repair. As I see it it is philosophically about reasserting democratic values, and (somehow) creating a politics that does not incentivise division, fear and loathing.

    It's a big project, and significantly imo it needs to start from the edges, and the fringes.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 132,436
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    It can't be the entire story, because in funding of pension systems we are pretty much right at the bottom of the league both by expenditure amongst developed countries (with the Anglosphere and some Asians - though I do not see that latter holding given demograhics), and by how said expenditure is increasing.

    It's a debate unfortunately dominated by shouting
    We do have the state pension triple lock though and we have a higher percentage with private pensions than the OECD average
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,096
    Sandpit said:

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    You do realise we have an astonishingly high deficit and our debt interest payments dwarf our Defence budget? That's not a minor matter.
    That sort of catastrophism is part of the problem. The deficit isn't particularly bad either by historic measures or in comparison to peer countries.

    The deficit so far this financial year is £132bn, the second highest on record after 2020 when we had a pandemic on, higher than in 2009 when there was a massive recession.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governmentpublicsectorandtaxes/publicsectorfinance/bulletins/publicsectorfinances/november2025

    It’s true that most of the West is up to their neck in debt, but that doesn’t make it a good thing!
    Though that's comparing 2009 pounds with 2025 pounds, which isn't entirely fair. Further down the page, the numbers are expressed as percentage of GDP, in which case 2025 was as bad as 2015.

    And in various ways that can't be said out loud, the theory of Reveesonomics kind of makes sense. We probably need a shift from consumption spending to investment spending- pretty much the opposite of what Osborne did. Similarly, we probably want to get rid of low value-added jobs, especially if they can only be filled by immigration. Neither of them looks good on the front page of the Mail, and even if we had a communication genius anywhere in Downing Street, they would still be a tough sell.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,366
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    You do realise we have an astonishingly high deficit and our debt interest payments dwarf our Defence budget? That's not a minor matter.
    That sort of catastrophism is part of the problem. The deficit isn't particularly bad either by historic measures or in comparison to peer countries.

    If my house is on fire and I run outside and notice my neighbour's house is on fire that isn't going to make me feel more relaxed.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,950
    edited 9:39AM

    Sandpit said:

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    You do realise we have an astonishingly high deficit and our debt interest payments dwarf our Defence budget? That's not a minor matter.
    That sort of catastrophism is part of the problem. The deficit isn't particularly bad either by historic measures or in comparison to peer countries.

    The deficit so far this financial year is £132bn, the second highest on record after 2020 when we had a pandemic on, higher than in 2009 when there was a massive recession.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governmentpublicsectorandtaxes/publicsectorfinance/bulletins/publicsectorfinances/november2025

    It’s true that most of the West is up to their neck in debt, but that doesn’t make it a good thing!
    Is that adjusted for inflation or not?
    AI generated but looks correct.

    Monthly Borrowing Figures

    2009-10 Financial Year (Nominal Values)

    April 2009: £4.2 billion
    May 2009: £6.4 billion
    June 2009: £10.3 billion
    July 2009: £9.3 billion
    August 2009: £6.5 billion
    September 2009: £14.5 billion
    October 2009: £7.9 billion
    November 2009: £4.3 billion
    December 2009: £9.4 billion
    January 2010: £5.4 billion
    February 2010: £1.7 billion
    March 2010: £5.1 billion
    Total Borrowing for 2009-10: £175.1 billion

    2025-26 Financial Year (Nominal Values to Date)

    April 2025: £12.8 billion
    May 2025: £10.3 billion
    June 2025: £15.2 billion
    July 2025: £20.8 billion
    August 2025: £13.1 billion
    September 2025: £20.2 billion
    October 2025: £10.6 billion
    November 2025: £11.7 billion
    Total Borrowing for 2025-26 (to November): £132.3 billion

    Adjusted Monthly Borrowing Figures

    April 2009: £5.46 billion
    May 2009: £8.32 billion
    June 2009: £13.39 billion
    July 2009: £12.09 billion
    August 2009: £8.45 billion
    September 2009: £18.85 billion
    October 2009: £10.27 billion
    November 2009: £5.59 billion
    December 2009: £12.22 billion
    January 2010: £7.02 billion
    February 2010: £2.21 billion
    March 2010: £6.63 billion
    This adjustment provides insight into how borrowing levels compare, accounting for inflation.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 17,771

    Sandpit said:

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    You do realise we have an astonishingly high deficit and our debt interest payments dwarf our Defence budget? That's not a minor matter.
    That sort of catastrophism is part of the problem. The deficit isn't particularly bad either by historic measures or in comparison to peer countries.

    The deficit so far this financial year is £132bn, the second highest on record after 2020 when we had a pandemic on, higher than in 2009 when there was a massive recession.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governmentpublicsectorandtaxes/publicsectorfinance/bulletins/publicsectorfinances/november2025

    It’s true that most of the West is up to their neck in debt, but that doesn’t make it a good thing!
    Is that adjusted for inflation or not?
    Looking up the numbers… no. So, adjusting for inflation, the 2009 deficit was much bigger at about £282bn.

    Lots of figures are the highest on record if you don’t adjust for inflation.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,758

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    You do realise we have an astonishingly high deficit and our debt interest payments dwarf our Defence budget? That's not a minor matter.
    Point of order, the current deficit isn't especially high by historic standards and is expected to fall according to the OBR, not least because Rachel Reeves is raising some unpopular taxes

    https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/brief-guides-and-explainers/public-finances/
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 132,436
    Foxy said:

    Its a great chart.

    When do we get the results of the PB predictions contest. I fear that I didn't do too well.

    I shall work on some better 2026 predictions.

    Welsh, Scottish and English Locals, US Mid Terms, possible leadership changes, any other political bets this year?

    I see the Russian Duma is on the list, Zambia and Brazil presidents but not a lot else planned.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2026

    The World Cup is also next year if you can't contain your excitement for the Zambian presidential election
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,924
    Pretty desperate apologism and whatabouttery going on here this morning to excuse our catastrophic deficit situation, all (entirely unsurprisingly) by the Liberal Democrat contingent desperate to defend the Government against what they see as Tory sniping - even if it goes directly against what they've previously argued for.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,110
    "New Year's Eve trains disrupted by cable theft"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9wxjykj5e4o

    (Copper prices are high again...)
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,758

    Pretty desperate apologism and whatabouttery going on here this morning to excuse our catastrophic deficit situation, all (entirely unsurprisingly) by the Liberal Democrat contingent desperate to defend the Government against what they see as Tory sniping - even if it goes directly against what they've previously argued for.

    As a matter of record the deficit now is lower than the one Thatcher ran for most of the time she was in office.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 21,591
    It's not just about the government debt and deficit. It's about massive amounts of mortgage debt, and car debt. It's about companies borrowing money to buy themselves for their private equity owners, all the debt loaded onto the water companies, financial engineering to extract money, not for investment, but for consumption.

    It's a whole economy problem and it has been for decades, and it requires a whole economy solution - government cutting welfare spending to balance the books isn't going to be enough, because it does nothing about the dysfunction in the private sector.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,740

    There will be a 2026 PB predictions competition, it will come with a prize of £100 Amazon vouchers.

    I just need to pull out my finger and work out 12 questions to ask you all.

    What will be the pizza topping of choice as determined by YouGov for December 2026?

    Which movie will @Sunil_Prasannan quote most often?

    How many different epithets will be used for Max Verstappen?

    Which team will Wales lose to in the rugby this year?

    What crazy thing will Nigel Farage do?

    How many times will OGH Jr mention Radiohead?

    What month will JD Vance be caught having an affair with Erika Kirk?

    How many times will Donald Trump mention sharks?

    There's a few to get you started.
  • TresTres Posts: 3,345

    Pretty desperate apologism and whatabouttery going on here this morning to excuse our catastrophic deficit situation, all (entirely unsurprisingly) by the Liberal Democrat contingent desperate to defend the Government against what they see as Tory sniping - even if it goes directly against what they've previously argued for.

    lol mustn't let facts get in the way of a rant
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,950
    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    Join a club, a choir, go to the pub, etc. Apps are not the only way to meet people
    Yes take up an activity or hobby that involves meeting up in groups, preferably something that attracts reasonable numbers of both men and women.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,620
    FF43 said:

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    You do realise we have an astonishingly high deficit and our debt interest payments dwarf our Defence budget? That's not a minor matter.
    Point of order, the current deficit isn't especially high by historic standards and is expected to fall according to the OBR, not least because Rachel Reeves is raising some unpopular taxes

    https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/brief-guides-and-explainers/public-finances/
    The debt is more the issue than the deficit. Specifically its servicing costs now that the cheap money era is over.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 89,191
    edited 9:51AM
    Shhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiit....

    Isiah Whitlock Jr., actor who starred in The Wire, dies aged 71
    https://news.sky.com/story/isiah-whitlock-jr-actor-who-starred-in-the-wire-dies-aged-71-13488960

    The Wire has a bit Kennedy-esque curse for early deaths of their star actors.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,950

    It's not just about the government debt and deficit. It's about massive amounts of mortgage debt, and car debt. It's about companies borrowing money to buy themselves for their private equity owners, all the debt loaded onto the water companies, financial engineering to extract money, not for investment, but for consumption.

    It's a whole economy problem and it has been for decades, and it requires a whole economy solution - government cutting welfare spending to balance the books isn't going to be enough, because it does nothing about the dysfunction in the private sector.

    Government cutting spending is not all that’s required, but it’s definitely a prerequisite.

    Yes the rest of us need to stop buying new cars on the never-never and much less cheap Chinese tat, and regulation of utilities in particular has been woeful in the last decade.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 46,141
    edited 9:55AM
    Interesting stat from John Burn-Murdoch on More Or Less this am: social media use is falling internationally except for Canada, USA and the old. Nothing less cool to the young I guess than seeing Trump boogying to Village People and Musk setting his algorithm to tell people how fab Musk is. There's hope yet..
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,740
    Sandpit said:

    It's not just about the government debt and deficit. It's about massive amounts of mortgage debt, and car debt. It's about companies borrowing money to buy themselves for their private equity owners, all the debt loaded onto the water companies, financial engineering to extract money, not for investment, but for consumption.

    It's a whole economy problem and it has been for decades, and it requires a whole economy solution - government cutting welfare spending to balance the books isn't going to be enough, because it does nothing about the dysfunction in the private sector.

    Government cutting spending is not all that’s required, but it’s definitely a prerequisite.

    Yes the rest of us need to stop buying new cars on the never-never and much less cheap Chinese tat, and regulation of utilities in particular has been woeful in the last decade.
    That's unkind.

    To woeful things...
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 58,950
    kinabalu said:

    FF43 said:

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    You do realise we have an astonishingly high deficit and our debt interest payments dwarf our Defence budget? That's not a minor matter.
    Point of order, the current deficit isn't especially high by historic standards and is expected to fall according to the OBR, not least because Rachel Reeves is raising some unpopular taxes

    https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/brief-guides-and-explainers/public-finances/
    The debt is more the issue than the deficit. Specifically its servicing costs now that the cheap money era is over.
    On that both you and I have a rare point of agreement. Happy New Year! 🍾
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 34,460

    Foxy said:

    The Pope on cinema:

    "One of cinema’s most valuable contributions is helping audiences consider their own lives, look at the complexity of their experiences with new eyes and examine the world as if for the first time., In doing so, they rediscover a portion of the hope that is essential for humanity to live to the fullest. I find comfort in the thought that cinema is not just moving pictures; it sets hope in motion.

    (Edit)

    "The logic of algorithms tends to repeat what “works,” but art opens up what is possible. Not everything has to be immediate or predictable. Defend slowness when it serves a purpose, silence when it speaks and difference when evocative. Beauty is not just a means of escape; it is, above all, an invocation. When cinema is authentic, it does not merely console but challenges. It articulates the questions that dwell within us and sometimes even provokes tears that we did not know we needed to express."

    From: https://deadline.com/2025/11/pope-leo-xiv-cinema-speech-a-list-crowd-read-his-speech-1236618389/

    If only he had quoted a fellow native of Chicago.

    You wanna know how to get Capone? They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. *That's* the *Chicago* way! And that's how you get Capone. Now do you want to do that? Are you ready to do that? I'm offering you a deal. Do you want this deal?
    That's Sean Connery.

    And I can't read that quote without hearing his voice.
    Try this quote: when it comes to underwear, silk is better than satin.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 34,460
    Former Singapore PM and Cambridge-educated lawyer Lee Kuan Yew On CIA and America (2 minutes)
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nZv_UkMh0FA
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 376
    edited 10:00AM
    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    The dating world looks vastly different to what it did even 10 years ago. A lot of guys coming out on relationships are on the rebound, and will go straight back into the apps. I dont get the impression its the same for girls, and I don't blame them if they are being bombarded by desperate guys.

    In terms of in person interactions, sports clubs are a decent bet. They have a good social side away from the running track/pitch too.

    I think you are right on the digital hermit stuff, society is creating more recluses by peddling rubbish online, be it from Trump or other sources

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,566
    HYUFD said:

    Foxy said:

    Its a great chart.

    When do we get the results of the PB predictions contest. I fear that I didn't do too well.

    I shall work on some better 2026 predictions.

    Welsh, Scottish and English Locals, US Mid Terms, possible leadership changes, any other political bets this year?

    I see the Russian Duma is on the list, Zambia and Brazil presidents but not a lot else planned.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2026

    The World Cup is also next year if you can't contain your excitement for the Zambian presidential election
    My wife was brought up in Zambia, so we have an interest. It's a lovely country with a pretty stable democracy.

    I think HH will be re-elected as the economy is doing well despite the 2024 drought. Electricity remains an issue as 70% is hydroelectric and the reservoirs are still low.

  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,277
    ydoethur said:

    There will be a 2026 PB predictions competition, it will come with a prize of £100 Amazon vouchers.

    I just need to pull out my finger and work out 12 questions to ask you all.

    What will be the pizza topping of choice as determined by YouGov for December 2026?

    Which movie will @Sunil_Prasannan quote most often?

    How many different epithets will be used for Max Verstappen?

    Which team will Wales lose to in the rugby this year?

    What crazy thing will Nigel Farage do?

    How many times will OGH Jr mention Radiohead?

    What month will JD Vance be caught having an affair with Erika Kirk?

    How many times will Donald Trump mention sharks?

    There's a few to get you started.
    Just how wrong will ydoethur's cricket predictions be?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,620
    edited 10:11AM
    Sandpit said:

    kinabalu said:

    FF43 said:

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    The BBC seem to have put up a paywall on its standard news site for audiences in the U.S.

    So I don’t know why police are closing off Primrose Hill on NYE.

    Another daft idea; the BBC should aim to be the global Wikipedia of news, not try to “compete” with Bloomberg or whatever.

    It's described as "dynamic" and "selective".

    Breaking news, World Service Radio, and podcasts are still free, I am told.

    If we want a global wikipedia of news (an aspiration with which I agree), then we need to fund it properly. We do not because purblind little Englanders are offended, and Mr Starmer pays them too much attention.

    At present, the Foreign Office (-25% on headcount), the British Council (withdrawing from ~40 countries), and the BBC World Service (no numbers to hand), are amongst areas of funding which aiui are being gutted, alongside overseas development aid (down to 0.3% of GDP plus billions diverted to asylum hotels etc).

    I think this may be one of Mr Starmer's biggest strategic mistakes, and where he should have reversed the previous Government direction - at whatever cost, because this policy will cost more long-term than the alternative.
    The central problem of our times, which nobody is anywhere near answering.

    Numerically, we're richer than previous generations of Britons. We're richer overall than this time last year, not that anyone says that out loud. Yet we don't feel rich, and we keep concluding that we can only keep warm is by chucking another but of furniture on the fire. See all the soft power cuts you mention, then continue from there.

    And yes, a lot of that is because we're increasingly a pension system with a country attached, and those pensions should have been paid for decades ago but weren't. But that can't be the entire story... can it?
    Any party campaigning on the line "You never had it so good" would be slaughtered, but in economic terms would be correct.

    The problem is not so much economic, albeit tha economy is rather sluggish, but more a crisis of confidence in wider civic society. This is common to much of the developed world, rather than being UK specific of course.

    Is the future to be one of digital hermits being fed narrowcasting by shadowy billionaires or are we going to engage with our neighbours? This is why I found the Primrose Hill closure depressing. Spontaneous, free and chaotic inter-reactions are deplored.

    I was eavesdropping on couple of our Gen Z staff in the coffee room the other day. There are fewer and fewer random introductions via friends in the dating world now, and the Apps are increasingly awful, being dominated by men using the Boomhauer technique. No wonder the TFR is dropping faster than Starmers ratings.

    You do realise we have an astonishingly high deficit and our debt interest payments dwarf our Defence budget? That's not a minor matter.
    Point of order, the current deficit isn't especially high by historic standards and is expected to fall according to the OBR, not least because Rachel Reeves is raising some unpopular taxes

    https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/brief-guides-and-explainers/public-finances/
    The debt is more the issue than the deficit. Specifically its servicing costs now that the cheap money era is over.
    On that both you and I have a rare point of agreement. Happy New Year! 🍾
    U2! An annual event. Left it late this year but we managed it.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,366
    Suggestions for Mr. Eagles:

    How many points will Williams score?

    What will Labour's council seat change be in May?

    Will there be a truce between Ukraine and Russia?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,620

    Interesting stat from John Burn-Murdoch on More Or Less this am: social media use is falling internationally except for Canada, USA and the old. Nothing less cool to the young I guess than seeing Trump boogying to Village People and Musk setting his algorithm to tell people how fab Musk is. There's hope yet..

    Yes. You're into aesthetics, aren't you? Well there's the answer. The whole New Right thing is a style disaster. Forget the politics just look at the people.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,534
    kinabalu said:

    Interesting stat from John Burn-Murdoch on More Or Less this am: social media use is falling internationally except for Canada, USA and the old. Nothing less cool to the young I guess than seeing Trump boogying to Village People and Musk setting his algorithm to tell people how fab Musk is. There's hope yet..

    Yes. You're into aesthetics, aren't you? Well there's the answer. The whole New Right thing is a style disaster. Forget the politics just look at the people.
    The aesthetics are frequently a tell.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 376

    There will be a 2026 PB predictions competition, it will come with a prize of £100 Amazon vouchers.

    I just need to pull out my finger and work out 12 questions to ask you all.

    Heres a few potential ones

    At which round will each host nation be eliminated at during the 2026 FIFA mens world cup?

    How many names/titles will Andrew Mountbatten Windsor have left by Hogmanay 2026?

    Will a non old firm team win the Scottish Premier league in 2026?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,740

    ydoethur said:

    There will be a 2026 PB predictions competition, it will come with a prize of £100 Amazon vouchers.

    I just need to pull out my finger and work out 12 questions to ask you all.

    What will be the pizza topping of choice as determined by YouGov for December 2026?

    Which movie will @Sunil_Prasannan quote most often?

    How many different epithets will be used for Max Verstappen?

    Which team will Wales lose to in the rugby this year?

    What crazy thing will Nigel Farage do?

    How many times will OGH Jr mention Radiohead?

    What month will JD Vance be caught having an affair with Erika Kirk?

    How many times will Donald Trump mention sharks?

    There's a few to get you started.
    Just how wrong will ydoethur's cricket predictions be?
    Hopefully more wrong than they were for the Ashes.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 34,460
    Tucker Carlson is RETARDED – Konstantin Kisin (5 mins)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JoXbQbMdPA

    In Leon's continued absence, someone has to watch these right wing social media pundits.

    A couple of thought-provoking hypotheses: first, that MAGA's extreme isolationism is caused by guilt over being gung-ho for the Iraq War; secondly that the flip side of American optimism is susceptibility to conspiracy theories – if all ambitions are achievable then anything is possible. I'm not convinced on either count but it is interesting.
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