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Will this bug John Swinney and the SNP until election day? – politicalbetting.com

EXC ?: A female SNP MSP's office was 'bugged' by her male staff member The man then went on to work for an SNP MP and is still involved in his local constituency groupConcerns have now been raised at Holyrood over the 'jaw-dropping' situation https://t.co/LPQAScHZ2b

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  • God love the SNP, they do the best scandals.
  • So many questions. Who? Why? Qui bono?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 21,329
    I guess he wasn't a migrant and so it wasn't a priority.

    I understand this is the approved response to male offences against women.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 62,675

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Carnyx said:

    rcs1000 said:

    PB cooking update.

    Yesterday I went on a long cycle, and after getting back had a strong desire not to go to the store, and also -given the particularly hilly route I'd rode- for some pasta.

    So... I put some spaghetti in a pot to boil (with a little olive oil and lots of salt).

    While that was cooking I heated some olive oil in a pan, and put in one clove of thinly sliced garlic, and another 2-3 crushed cloves. Once those were getting a little fragrant, I chucked in a spoonful of capers. I then grabbed a little can of the nicest tuna I could find, and chucked it in with the capers and garlic. I then kept this on a very low heat and broke the fillets up somewhat.

    When the pasta was al dente, I drained all but a cup (or maybe a little less) of the water, and put it in with the garlic, olive oil, capers and tuna, and mixed it well.

    I then headed off to the fridge again, found some parsley, chopped it, and dumped it in with the pasta.

    Very simple, really. The only expensive bit was the tuna. But even that is only $7 on Amazon if bought as part of a pack of 6. (Tonnino yellowfin tuna fillets in olive oil.)

    Wife and children declared it deilicious.

    Tonight I'm doing a tortellini soup.

    Mm! Very reminiscent of our supper last night - fried aubergines and onions and courgettes with hot smoked salmon and an egg broken in, served with pasta and cooked samphire. Normally we have capers but we'd run out!

    But yours is still simpler. Definitely worth a try.
    You want simple ?

    My recipe for omelette in a paper cup.
    Microwave a knob of butter for 1min to melt it. Add coarsely chopped watercress and three eggs; stir.
    Microwave at the medium setting for 2min 20 sec (may need experimentation for your particular microwave).

    Surprisingly good.
    Omlettes are not exactly that complicated to make, though. You are basically swapping a tiny bit of washing up for a disgarded paper cup.

    For breakfast without a kitchen.
    But with a microwave.

    Got it.

    Very useful, but only in a limited range of scenarios.
    Many offices have only a microwave.

    Quite a few people live in tiny flats with minimal cooking facilities - there's a whole genre of cook books on how to live out of a rice cooker, for example.
    The office one is a good point.

    But for people living in tiny apartments, it is worth remembering you can get an induction 'hob' for as little as about forty quid. That pays for itself pretty quickly in massively increasing your ability to cook food - pasta is now a doddle, for example.
    I've noticed that at places like Robert Dyas, microwaves with a built in single ring cooker (on the top) are a thing. People are buying them,...
    Presumably induction rather than the old 'resistive' heating element?

    But what a great idea. If you have a kettle, a hob and a microwave, you effectively have everything you need to cook a meal with. And if you can get two-in-one it also takes up very little space. (The other option is a toaster over/air fryer.)
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,339

    I guess he wasn't a migrant and so it wasn't a priority.

    I understand this is the approved response to male offences against women.

    Never underestimate the madness that can be created by semi-voluntary organisations.

    Years ago, there was a case involving a local sports club. Turned out that a committee member had been hiring private investigators to bug members, steal email, and "phone hack" - aka listen to voice mails by guessing the password. He spent a fortune on doing this. Used the information to harass and manipulate everyone around him.

    Barking mad, of course.

    What I found interesting was the statement from the PIs involved - that this was a standard package of services offered. This was before the Phone Hacking Scandal hit big.
  • rcs1000 said:
    Trump Media is merging with a nuclear fusion company. Of course they are.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,339
    rcs1000 said:
    Novel fusion technology (x orders of magnitude cheaper than ITER) is one of the newer grift topics. It's been around a few years though.

    Just wait for my IPO of my Novel Space Launch, Novel Fusion powered AI Cryptocoin.....
  • kle4 said:

    I guess he wasn't a migrant and so it wasn't a priority.

    I understand this is the approved response to male offences against women.

    Never underestimate the madness that can be created by semi-voluntary organisations.

    Years ago, there was a case involving a local sports club. Turned out that a committee member had been hiring private investigators to bug members, steal email, and "phone hack" - aka listen to voice mails by guessing the password. He spent a fortune on doing this. Used the information to harass and manipulate everyone around him.

    Barking mad, of course.

    What I found interesting was the statement from the PIs involved - that this was a standard package of services offered. This was before the Phone Hacking Scandal hit big.
    The smaller the power involved, the more vicious the internal politics.
    Are you aware that's a paraphrase of a Kissinger observation? He made it in connection with University politics which were so bitter because they were so unimportant.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,339
    kle4 said:

    I guess he wasn't a migrant and so it wasn't a priority.

    I understand this is the approved response to male offences against women.

    Never underestimate the madness that can be created by semi-voluntary organisations.

    Years ago, there was a case involving a local sports club. Turned out that a committee member had been hiring private investigators to bug members, steal email, and "phone hack" - aka listen to voice mails by guessing the password. He spent a fortune on doing this. Used the information to harass and manipulate everyone around him.

    Barking mad, of course.

    What I found interesting was the statement from the PIs involved - that this was a standard package of services offered. This was before the Phone Hacking Scandal hit big.
    The smaller the power involved, the more vicious the internal politics.
    Indeed - see the Yocto-parties on the extreme-left-of-the-extreme-left in the UK. 1.37 bald men fighting over a comb, on average.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,982
    Test
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,912
    edited December 18

    rcs1000 said:
    Trump Media is merging with a nuclear fusion company. Of course they are.
    His other businesses were a mess and, whilst wealthy, not as valuable as he would claim. Trump Media has been a real godsend for him, he really leveraged being President to make money.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,501
    edited December 18

    rcs1000 said:
    Given his expertise in creating division, you’d think nuclear fission would be a better fit.
    He's already good at creating toxic waste.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,711
    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:
    Trump Media is merging with a nuclear fusion company. Of course they are.
    His other businesses were a mess and, whislt wealthy, not as valuable as he would claim. Trump Media has been a real godsend for him, he really leveraged being President to make money.
    With help from the previous owners of Twitter deciding to ban him.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,912

    kle4 said:

    I guess he wasn't a migrant and so it wasn't a priority.

    I understand this is the approved response to male offences against women.

    Never underestimate the madness that can be created by semi-voluntary organisations.

    Years ago, there was a case involving a local sports club. Turned out that a committee member had been hiring private investigators to bug members, steal email, and "phone hack" - aka listen to voice mails by guessing the password. He spent a fortune on doing this. Used the information to harass and manipulate everyone around him.

    Barking mad, of course.

    What I found interesting was the statement from the PIs involved - that this was a standard package of services offered. This was before the Phone Hacking Scandal hit big.
    The smaller the power involved, the more vicious the internal politics.
    Are you aware that's a paraphrase of a Kissinger observation? He made it in connection with University politics which were so bitter because they were so unimportant.
    I was not, but if there isn't a similar aphorism from Sun Tzu, Machiavelli, or Lee Kuan Yew, I will be very surprised.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,314
    BREAKING: SpaceX's Starlink has experienced an anomaly on satellite 35956, which led to a loss of communications with the vehicle.

    The satellite will re-enter the Earth's atmosphere and "fully demise" within weeks, according to Starlink.

    https://x.com/SkyNews/status/2001702353020354767?s=20
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,912

    rcs1000 said:
    Novel fusion technology (x orders of magnitude cheaper than ITER) is one of the newer grift topics. It's been around a few years though.

    Just wait for my IPO of my Novel Space Launch, Novel Fusion powered AI Cryptocoin.....
    So long as it doesn't clash with my company, AI Fusion Space Launch BlockchainX Ltd.

    The X is so I can get Musk on board.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,912

    kle4 said:

    I guess he wasn't a migrant and so it wasn't a priority.

    I understand this is the approved response to male offences against women.

    Never underestimate the madness that can be created by semi-voluntary organisations.

    Years ago, there was a case involving a local sports club. Turned out that a committee member had been hiring private investigators to bug members, steal email, and "phone hack" - aka listen to voice mails by guessing the password. He spent a fortune on doing this. Used the information to harass and manipulate everyone around him.

    Barking mad, of course.

    What I found interesting was the statement from the PIs involved - that this was a standard package of services offered. This was before the Phone Hacking Scandal hit big.
    The smaller the power involved, the more vicious the internal politics.
    Indeed - see the Yocto-parties on the extreme-left-of-the-extreme-left in the UK. 1.37 bald men fighting over a comb, on average.
    Reminds me a little of a book I once read called 'Militant Competition', which was about the growth of terrorists and insurgent groups, how they advertise through violence etc as part of competing for attention/resources, and their interractions as a result.

    It was an academic work so it was a bit beyond me, but the premise was interesting.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,339
    edited December 18
    Scott_xP said:

    BREAKING: SpaceX's Starlink has experienced an anomaly on satellite 35956, which led to a loss of communications with the vehicle.

    The satellite will re-enter the Earth's atmosphere and "fully demise" within weeks, according to Starlink.

    https://x.com/SkyNews/status/2001702353020354767?s=20

    They have about 1-2 re-entries per day. They have 9,000+ in the constellation at the moment and growing.

    Due to the design and very low orbits used, if they start tumbling the drag pulls them down, out of orbit, very fast.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,339
    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:
    Novel fusion technology (x orders of magnitude cheaper than ITER) is one of the newer grift topics. It's been around a few years though.

    Just wait for my IPO of my Novel Space Launch, Novel Fusion powered AI Cryptocoin.....
    So long as it doesn't clash with my company, AI Fusion Space Launch BlockchainX Ltd.

    The X is so I can get Musk on board.
    Shut! Up! And! Take! My! Money!
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 21,504
    Scott_xP said:

    BREAKING: SpaceX's Starlink has experienced an anomaly on satellite 35956, which led to a loss of communications with the vehicle.

    The satellite will re-enter the Earth's atmosphere and "fully demise" within weeks, according to Starlink.

    https://x.com/SkyNews/status/2001702353020354767?s=20

    That idiot who has been banging on about that comet will probably blame aliens…
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 41,090
    rcs1000 said:
    I did spend 10 mins trying to figure it out but then I realised it's all just bribe money for Trump.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,019
    PSA: If you've published a book, and Anthropic scraped it for AI training, you (might) get $1500 per book:

    https://www.anthropiccopyrightsettlement.com

    You can search the list there to see if your book is included.

    I've just submitted my claim.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,912
    edited December 18
    MaxPB said:

    rcs1000 said:
    I did spend 10 mins trying to figure it out but then I realised it's all just bribe money for Trump.
    Assuming such is generally a time saver. Won't always be the case, but odds are good.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,567
    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:
    Novel fusion technology (x orders of magnitude cheaper than ITER) is one of the newer grift topics. It's been around a few years though.

    Just wait for my IPO of my Novel Space Launch, Novel Fusion powered AI Cryptocoin.....
    So long as it doesn't clash with my company, AI Fusion Space Launch BlockchainX Ltd.

    The X is so I can get Musk on board.
    Give it a few years and my fund, Plutocracy Capital Partners LLP, will snaffle it up for a song.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,491
    edited December 18
    I've gone in on England to win this 3rd test match at 11. It's not smart, it's not calculated, it's just pure unadulterated patriotism.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,314
    @PippaCrerar

    BREAKING: Christian Turner, a career diplomat who was UK ambassador to UN and foreign office political director, will be the UK's new man in Washington, sources confirm.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,912
    Scott_xP said:

    @PippaCrerar

    BREAKING: Christian Turner, a career diplomat who was UK ambassador to UN and foreign office political director, will be the UK's new man in Washington, sources confirm.

    Hope he makes good choices on who he is friends with.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 41,090
    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:
    Novel fusion technology (x orders of magnitude cheaper than ITER) is one of the newer grift topics. It's been around a few years though.

    Just wait for my IPO of my Novel Space Launch, Novel Fusion powered AI Cryptocoin.....
    So long as it doesn't clash with my company, AI Fusion Space Launch BlockchainX Ltd.

    The X is so I can get Musk on board.
    I think if you start said company and get an LLM to put together an investor deck you could probably get millions of dollars in funding, though maybe without the blockchain AI FusionX Space Launch would be my advice, make a deck about getting fusion reactors small enough to fit into space launch vehicles using AI. Elon would buy the company for millions just for the name.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,314
    There is a story on social media that Trump has announced the Hunger Games and I am not sure it's parody
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,491
    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:
    Trump Media is merging with a nuclear fusion company. Of course they are.
    His other businesses were a mess and, whilst wealthy, not as valuable as he would claim. Trump Media has been a real godsend for him, he really leveraged being President to make money.
    In spades. "Ask not what you can do in the White House for the country, ask what being in the White House can do for you."
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,912
    I'd agree, although I'm also not sure they have many options open to them. Looking reluctant will just annoy people who want them to do it, and those who don't want them to.

    This is politically insane. As things stand, the Conservatives will face a challenge from Reform in many of the seats they hold. If they don't rule out coalition with Reform, they won't be able to get the tactical votes they will need from Labour, LD and Green supporters
    https://nitter.poast.org/GavinBarwell/status/2001681830810955885#m

    https://nitter.poast.org/CamillaTominey - Tory chairman: I’d agree to Reform coalition if no other choice
  • Scott_xP said:

    BREAKING: SpaceX's Starlink has experienced an anomaly on satellite 35956, which led to a loss of communications with the vehicle.

    The satellite will re-enter the Earth's atmosphere and "fully demise" within weeks, according to Starlink.

    https://x.com/SkyNews/status/2001702353020354767?s=20

    They have about 1-2 re-entries per day. They have 9,000+ in the constellation at the moment and growing.

    Due to the design and very low orbits used, if they start tumbling the drag pulls them down, out of orbit, very fast.
    Keep Space Tidy! :lol:
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,083
    edited December 18
    kle4 said:

    I'd agree, although I'm also not sure they have many options open to them. Looking reluctant will just annoy people who want them to do it, and those who don't want them to.

    This is politically insane. As things stand, the Conservatives will face a challenge from Reform in many of the seats they hold. If they don't rule out coalition with Reform, they won't be able to get the tactical votes they will need from Labour, LD and Green supporters
    https://nitter.poast.org/GavinBarwell/status/2001681830810955885#m

    https://nitter.poast.org/CamillaTominey - Tory chairman: I’d agree to Reform coalition if no other choice

    The question of how the Tories at the top (leader level) handle this issue (their public stance on giving support to a Reform government) is one of the huge calls of UK politics. All the options are impossible but one of them has to be taken. They are:

    Yes we would
    No we wouldn't
    Wait and see after the election
    Never say anything at all except something about how that the Tories are going to win anyway
    Say different and incompatible things including hints and nudges in both directions.

    Personally I'm with Gavin Barwell. Otherwise they don't get my vote - One nation Tory.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 41,314
    @alaynatreene

    News: The Kennedy Center's board has voted rename the facility to the “Trump Kennedy Center,” @betsy_klein reports

    The vote took place during a board meeting, during which Trump called in
  • kle4 said:

    I'd agree, although I'm also not sure they have many options open to them. Looking reluctant will just annoy people who want them to do it, and those who don't want them to.

    This is politically insane. As things stand, the Conservatives will face a challenge from Reform in many of the seats they hold. If they don't rule out coalition with Reform, they won't be able to get the tactical votes they will need from Labour, LD and Green supporters
    https://nitter.poast.org/GavinBarwell/status/2001681830810955885#m

    https://nitter.poast.org/CamillaTominey - Tory chairman: I’d agree to Reform coalition if no other choice

    Probably the truthful thing to say- the range of scores that allows the third(?)/fourth(?)/fifth(?) party to be actual Kingmakers, as opposed to reluctantly having to push someone you aren't that keen on over the top, is pretty narrow. Nick Clegg is probably available to explain that for a reasonable fee.

    But it's a really bad answer, for the reason you mention. The only vaguely good one is the classic "The REAL question is... [insert talking point here]." Undiginified, sure, but dignity is a luxury that the Conservatives can't afford right now.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,083
    Scott_xP said:
    Very good. Someone needs to tell Matt and the DT that 'grounds' for divorce were abolished a few years ago. (2022 IIRC) You don't need a reason, you just need to think it's a good idea.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,886
    algarkirk said:

    kle4 said:

    I'd agree, although I'm also not sure they have many options open to them. Looking reluctant will just annoy people who want them to do it, and those who don't want them to.

    This is politically insane. As things stand, the Conservatives will face a challenge from Reform in many of the seats they hold. If they don't rule out coalition with Reform, they won't be able to get the tactical votes they will need from Labour, LD and Green supporters
    https://nitter.poast.org/GavinBarwell/status/2001681830810955885#m

    https://nitter.poast.org/CamillaTominey - Tory chairman: I’d agree to Reform coalition if no other choice

    The question of how the Tories at the top (leader level) handle this issue (their public stance on giving support to a Reform government) is one of the huge calls of UK politics. All the options are impossible but one of them has to be taken. They are:

    Yes we would
    No we wouldn't
    Wait and see after the election
    Never say anything at all except something about how that the Tories are going to win anyway
    Say different and incompatible things including hints and nudges in both directions.

    Personally I'm with Gavin Barwell. Otherwise they don't get my vote - One nation Tory.
    It'll be "We plan to win a majority to rid the country of Labour's incompetent malevolence. We don't comment on hypothetical scenarios." That will do just fine.

    I was despatched by Mrs DA to rewire the fuse box in the WI Hall this morning. I will not repeat what the Lich Queen who runs it, and has unfailingly voted for every tory since Gascoyne-Cecil, said about KB in case some softcock starts crying and hits the 'Flag' thing.
  • Q: What kind of music do elves listen to?

    A: Wrap.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,105
    carnforth said:

    PSA: If you've published a book, and Anthropic scraped it for AI training, you (might) get $1500 per book:

    https://www.anthropiccopyrightsettlement.com

    You can search the list there to see if your book is included.

    I've just submitted my claim.

    THis is genuine, right? I've just noticed a book by a colleague.
  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 347
    It's very amusing to here all the advise for the Tories from non-tories. Anyone would think the panic about Reform was growing. Yet only the other day some were posting that Reform had peaked. Indeed I doubt they can get much beyond 33/5% and probably less. However, it's also quite possibly true tha the Labour bottom is not yet there. All very funny.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,223

    Q: What kind of music do elves listen to?

    A: Wrap.

    The ones I've met prefer Elvish.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,711

    Q: What kind of music do elves listen to?

    A: Wrap.

    Puns don't kill people, wrappers do.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 8,019
    Carnyx said:

    carnforth said:

    PSA: If you've published a book, and Anthropic scraped it for AI training, you (might) get $1500 per book:

    https://www.anthropiccopyrightsettlement.com

    You can search the list there to see if your book is included.

    I've just submitted my claim.

    THis is genuine, right? I've just noticed a book by a colleague.
    Indeed. My publisher alerted me. They get the other $1500...
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,679

    Q: What kind of music do elves listen to?

    A: Wrap.

    My child would like a small pet for Christmas, so for us they're doing hamster wrap.
  • Because nobody has spotted/acknowledged the brilliantly subtle pun in the headline I have decided to give up subtlety as one of my new year's resolutions.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 47,105
    edited December 18
    carnforth said:

    Carnyx said:

    carnforth said:

    PSA: If you've published a book, and Anthropic scraped it for AI training, you (might) get $1500 per book:

    https://www.anthropiccopyrightsettlement.com

    You can search the list there to see if your book is included.

    I've just submitted my claim.

    THis is genuine, right? I've just noticed a book by a colleague.
    Indeed. My publisher alerted me. They get the other $1500...
    Excellent; many thanks. I suspect my colleague has heard, but I've dropped him a line anyway. Didn't use my work. Pity. I could have done with the extra coconuts.

    PS did check around a bit. Author's Guild, Graun, etc.
  • Because nobody has spotted/acknowledged the brilliantly subtle pun in the headline I have decided to give up subtlety as one of my new year's resolutions.

    We saw it but it was about as subtle as a pair of your dress shoes. ;)
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,144
    Ratters said:

    Q: What kind of music do elves listen to?

    A: Wrap.

    My child would like a small pet for Christmas, so for us they're doing hamster wrap.
    How about a frog?


  • scampi25 said:

    It's very amusing to here all the advise for the Tories from non-tories. Anyone would think the panic about Reform was growing. Yet only the other day some were posting that Reform had peaked. Indeed I doubt they can get much beyond 33/5% and probably less. However, it's also quite possibly true tha the Labour bottom is not yet there. All very funny.

    Wahey! Labour Bottom! That sounds incredibly rude!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,560
    Scott_xP said:

    @alaynatreene

    News: The Kennedy Center's board has voted rename the facility to the “Trump Kennedy Center,” @betsy_klein reports

    The vote took place during a board meeting, during which Trump called in

    Isn't the Trump Kennedy the brain wormed idiot running* Health ?

    Seems odd to rename it after him.

    *I typed ruining, but auto corrected.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,308

    Because nobody has spotted/acknowledged the brilliantly subtle pun in the headline I have decided to give up subtlety as one of my new year's resolutions.

    We saw it but it was about as subtle as a pair of your dress shoes. ;)
    Shoes with frocks - no, I didn't see it either.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,223
    scampi25 said:

    It's very amusing to here all the advise for the Tories from non-tories. Anyone would think the panic about Reform was growing. Yet only the other day some were posting that Reform had peaked. Indeed I doubt they can get much beyond 33/5% and probably less. However, it's also quite possibly true tha the Labour bottom is not yet there. All very funny.

    A lot of todays non Tory pb-ers were pretty standard Tories in the dim and distant past when they were not just winning elections but knew how to run government when they got the chance.

    Just perhaps they are the sort who should be listened to ahead of the ethno nationalists, ex revolutionary communists and fantasists?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,500

    Q: What kind of music do elves listen to?

    A: Wrap.

    The ones I've met prefer Elvish.
    Elvish Present-ly?




    Ah, my coat.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 341
    Holyrood has a fair collection of spy incidents doesn't it? There's also a former Labour MSP who has been accused of hiding a secret camera in a toilet
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,223

    Q: What kind of music do elves listen to?

    A: Wrap.

    The ones I've met prefer Elvish.
    Elvish Present-ly?




    Ah, my coat.
    I was tempted to reply "a little less conversation" from you, but then I thought "dont be cruel".
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,223
    DoctorG said:

    Holyrood has a fair collection of spy incidents doesn't it? There's also a former Labour MSP who has been accused of hiding a secret camera in a toilet

    Suspicious minds up there.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 33,500
    scampi25 said:

    It's very amusing to here all the advise for the Tories from non-tories. Anyone would think the panic about Reform was growing. Yet only the other day some were posting that Reform had peaked. Indeed I doubt they can get much beyond 33/5% and probably less. However, it's also quite possibly true tha the Labour bottom is not yet there. All very funny.

    Gavin Barwell is a particularly unappealing lib dem adjacent entryist. He may deserve tactical votes from Lib Dem, Labour and Green voters - he sure as heck doesn't deserve any from Tories.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 21,329
    I've worked out the runs per wicket ratios and I can see that England lost the 2006/07 (2.00) and 2013/14 (1.92) Ashes tours by wider margins than they're currently losing this one (1.78) so I feel a lot better about how the series is going.

    I haven't yet gone any further back than 2006, so perhaps there was an even heavier series defeat earlier.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,912
    Ratters said:

    kinabalu said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:
    Trump Media is merging with a nuclear fusion company. Of course they are.
    His other businesses were a mess and, whilst wealthy, not as valuable as he would claim. Trump Media has been a real godsend for him, he really leveraged being President to make money.
    In spades. "Ask not what you can do in the White House for the country, ask what being in the White House can do for you."
    On the plus side, he'll be dead before he manages to use all his corruptly gotten gains.

    On the downside, his children appear to be as awful as him.
    Worse.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 21,329
    Scott_xP said:

    BREAKING: SpaceX's Starlink has experienced an anomaly on satellite 35956, which led to a loss of communications with the vehicle.

    The satellite will re-enter the Earth's atmosphere and "fully demise" within weeks, according to Starlink.

    https://x.com/SkyNews/status/2001702353020354767?s=20

    There are so many of them that they're going to have to start putting letters into the IDs for them.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,491
    scampi25 said:

    It's very amusing to here all the advise for the Tories from non-tories. Anyone would think the panic about Reform was growing. Yet only the other day some were posting that Reform had peaked. Indeed I doubt they can get much beyond 33/5% and probably less. However, it's also quite possibly true tha the Labour bottom is not yet there. All very funny.

    You do always get that. Eg Reform/Tory supporters say Labour have to do Reform/Tory things to save themselves. Ultra Conservatives say the Dems must ditch the social justice agenda if they are ever to regain the WH. And (tbf and to show what an objective cove I am) people like me say if they have any sense the Cons should tack back to One Nation moderation.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,620
    kle4 said:

    Ratters said:

    kinabalu said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:
    Trump Media is merging with a nuclear fusion company. Of course they are.
    His other businesses were a mess and, whilst wealthy, not as valuable as he would claim. Trump Media has been a real godsend for him, he really leveraged being President to make money.
    In spades. "Ask not what you can do in the White House for the country, ask what being in the White House can do for you."
    On the plus side, he'll be dead before he manages to use all his corruptly gotten gains.

    On the downside, his children appear to be as awful as him.
    Worse.
    Baron Trump looks like he’s straight out of the Omen.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,308
    kinabalu said:

    scampi25 said:

    It's very amusing to here all the advise for the Tories from non-tories. Anyone would think the panic about Reform was growing. Yet only the other day some were posting that Reform had peaked. Indeed I doubt they can get much beyond 33/5% and probably less. However, it's also quite possibly true tha the Labour bottom is not yet there. All very funny.

    You do always get that. Eg Reform/Tory supporters say Labour have to do Reform/Tory things to save themselves. Ultra Conservatives say the Dems must ditch the social justice agenda if they are ever to regain the WH. And (tbf and to show what an objective cove I am) people like me say if they have any sense the Cons should tack back to One Nation moderation.
    Freak!
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,223
    kinabalu said:

    scampi25 said:

    It's very amusing to here all the advise for the Tories from non-tories. Anyone would think the panic about Reform was growing. Yet only the other day some were posting that Reform had peaked. Indeed I doubt they can get much beyond 33/5% and probably less. However, it's also quite possibly true tha the Labour bottom is not yet there. All very funny.

    You do always get that. Eg Reform/Tory supporters say Labour have to do Reform/Tory things to save themselves. Ultra Conservatives say the Dems must ditch the social justice agenda if they are ever to regain the WH. And (tbf and to show what an objective cove I am) people like me say if they have any sense the Cons should tack back to One Nation moderation.
    They are all more right than wrong. Outsiders sometimes know better than insiders.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,491
    Ratters said:

    kinabalu said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:
    Trump Media is merging with a nuclear fusion company. Of course they are.
    His other businesses were a mess and, whilst wealthy, not as valuable as he would claim. Trump Media has been a real godsend for him, he really leveraged being President to make money.
    In spades. "Ask not what you can do in the White House for the country, ask what being in the White House can do for you."
    On the plus side, he'll be dead before he manages to use all his corruptly gotten gains.

    On the downside, his children appear to be as awful as him.
    Eyes on Eric, I think. Nothing good will come of that.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,912
    scampi25 said:

    It's very amusing to here all the advise for the Tories from non-tories.

    That's a classic distraction line though. Sure, many times external advice is made with no intent to help, or misunderstanding of the relevant issues, but other times someone with an outside view can see things those inside cannot.

    Add to that people might used to have been inside. My last three GE votes in reverse order were Lab, LD, Con, i can either give advice to no-one or everyone.

  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,491

    kinabalu said:

    scampi25 said:

    It's very amusing to here all the advise for the Tories from non-tories. Anyone would think the panic about Reform was growing. Yet only the other day some were posting that Reform had peaked. Indeed I doubt they can get much beyond 33/5% and probably less. However, it's also quite possibly true tha the Labour bottom is not yet there. All very funny.

    You do always get that. Eg Reform/Tory supporters say Labour have to do Reform/Tory things to save themselves. Ultra Conservatives say the Dems must ditch the social justice agenda if they are ever to regain the WH. And (tbf and to show what an objective cove I am) people like me say if they have any sense the Cons should tack back to One Nation moderation.
    They are all more right than wrong. Outsiders sometimes know better than insiders.
    Well I think I'm right on the Tories certainly.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,501
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    scampi25 said:

    It's very amusing to here all the advise for the Tories from non-tories. Anyone would think the panic about Reform was growing. Yet only the other day some were posting that Reform had peaked. Indeed I doubt they can get much beyond 33/5% and probably less. However, it's also quite possibly true tha the Labour bottom is not yet there. All very funny.

    You do always get that. Eg Reform/Tory supporters say Labour have to do Reform/Tory things to save themselves. Ultra Conservatives say the Dems must ditch the social justice agenda if they are ever to regain the WH. And (tbf and to show what an objective cove I am) people like me say if they have any sense the Cons should tack back to One Nation moderation.
    They are all more right than wrong. Outsiders sometimes know better than insiders.
    Well I think I'm right on the Tories certainly.
    The Tories are so right we're just embarassed for them.

    But under Jenrick they would be even more right and we'd all be wincing.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,223
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    scampi25 said:

    It's very amusing to here all the advise for the Tories from non-tories. Anyone would think the panic about Reform was growing. Yet only the other day some were posting that Reform had peaked. Indeed I doubt they can get much beyond 33/5% and probably less. However, it's also quite possibly true tha the Labour bottom is not yet there. All very funny.

    You do always get that. Eg Reform/Tory supporters say Labour have to do Reform/Tory things to save themselves. Ultra Conservatives say the Dems must ditch the social justice agenda if they are ever to regain the WH. And (tbf and to show what an objective cove I am) people like me say if they have any sense the Cons should tack back to One Nation moderation.
    They are all more right than wrong. Outsiders sometimes know better than insiders.
    Well I think I'm right on the Tories certainly.
    Listening to Streeting and Mahmood will do wonders for your mob, unpopular as that may be with members.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,491
    ydoethur said:

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    scampi25 said:

    It's very amusing to here all the advise for the Tories from non-tories. Anyone would think the panic about Reform was growing. Yet only the other day some were posting that Reform had peaked. Indeed I doubt they can get much beyond 33/5% and probably less. However, it's also quite possibly true tha the Labour bottom is not yet there. All very funny.

    You do always get that. Eg Reform/Tory supporters say Labour have to do Reform/Tory things to save themselves. Ultra Conservatives say the Dems must ditch the social justice agenda if they are ever to regain the WH. And (tbf and to show what an objective cove I am) people like me say if they have any sense the Cons should tack back to One Nation moderation.
    They are all more right than wrong. Outsiders sometimes know better than insiders.
    Well I think I'm right on the Tories certainly.
    The Tories are so right we're just embarassed for them.

    But under Jenrick they would be even more right and we'd all be wincing.
    Jenrick is more of a trite winger imo.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,223
    Enough of the trivia, time for the big decision of the day. SPOTY or the darts?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 76,501

    Enough of the trivia, time for the big decision of the day. SPOTY or the darts?

    A load of bull or a load of bulls?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,491

    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    scampi25 said:

    It's very amusing to here all the advise for the Tories from non-tories. Anyone would think the panic about Reform was growing. Yet only the other day some were posting that Reform had peaked. Indeed I doubt they can get much beyond 33/5% and probably less. However, it's also quite possibly true tha the Labour bottom is not yet there. All very funny.

    You do always get that. Eg Reform/Tory supporters say Labour have to do Reform/Tory things to save themselves. Ultra Conservatives say the Dems must ditch the social justice agenda if they are ever to regain the WH. And (tbf and to show what an objective cove I am) people like me say if they have any sense the Cons should tack back to One Nation moderation.
    They are all more right than wrong. Outsiders sometimes know better than insiders.
    Well I think I'm right on the Tories certainly.
    Listening to Streeting and Mahmood will do wonders for your mob, unpopular as that may be with members.
    They are both being extremely listened to, I'd say.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,491

    Enough of the trivia, time for the big decision of the day. SPOTY or the darts?

    Spoty and I'm really hoping Rory wins.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 54,450
    carnforth said:

    PSA: If you've published a book, and Anthropic scraped it for AI training, you (might) get $1500 per book:

    https://www.anthropiccopyrightsettlement.com

    You can search the list there to see if your book is included.

    I've just submitted my claim.

    My cousin's book is in there, so thanks.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,567

    Enough of the trivia, time for the big decision of the day. SPOTY or the darts?

    School parents’ Christmas booze up for me. Do I bring Morrisons own label English Sparkling (which is actually Nyetimber) or Artwinery Ukrainian sparkling (formerly made in Bakhmut but relocated to Odesa for, er, operational reasons)?
  • Surely if the eventual re-organisation isn't sorted, that's more of a reason for these elections to go ahead, not less.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,491
    Just not the same without Gary.
  • kle4 said:

    scampi25 said:

    It's very amusing to here all the advise for the Tories from non-tories.

    That's a classic distraction line though. Sure, many times external advice is made with no intent to help, or misunderstanding of the relevant issues, but other times someone with an outside view can see things those inside cannot.

    Add to that people might used to have been inside. My last three GE votes in reverse order were Lab, LD, Con, i can either give advice to no-one or everyone.

    Back in the day, the standard advice from PB Tories to the Lib Dems was "You should try to replace the Labour Party ... but agree with Tory policies"
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 27,089

    Q: What kind of music do elves listen to?

    A: Wrap.

    Puns don't kill people, wrappers do.
    Goldie Looking Chain!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,711
    "Congratulations to President Kennedy"

    https://x.com/PressSec/status/2001717032191168839

    I have just been informed that the highly respected Board of the Kennedy Center, some of the most successful people from all parts of the world, have just voted unanimously to rename the Kennedy Center to the Trump-Kennedy Center, because of the unbelievable work President Trump has done over the last year in saving the building. Not only from the standpoint of its reconstruction, but also financially, and its reputation. Congratulations to President Donald J. Trump, and likewise, congratulations to President Kennedy, because this will be a truly great team long into the future! The building will no doubt attain new levels of success and grandeur.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,223

    kle4 said:

    scampi25 said:

    It's very amusing to here all the advise for the Tories from non-tories.

    That's a classic distraction line though. Sure, many times external advice is made with no intent to help, or misunderstanding of the relevant issues, but other times someone with an outside view can see things those inside cannot.

    Add to that people might used to have been inside. My last three GE votes in reverse order were Lab, LD, Con, i can either give advice to no-one or everyone.

    Back in the day, the standard advice from PB Tories to the Lib Dems was "You should try to replace the Labour Party ... but agree with Tory policies"
    Strategy for the LDs doesn't matter much, their success or failure is simply the inverse of Conservative success or failure. They may as well just head on to the pub and fuhgeddaboudit.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,308

    "Congratulations to President Kennedy"

    https://x.com/PressSec/status/2001717032191168839

    I have just been informed that the highly respected Board of the Kennedy Center, some of the most successful people from all parts of the world, have just voted unanimously to rename the Kennedy Center to the Trump-Kennedy Center, because of the unbelievable work President Trump has done over the last year in saving the building. Not only from the standpoint of its reconstruction, but also financially, and its reputation. Congratulations to President Donald J. Trump, and likewise, congratulations to President Kennedy, because this will be a truly great team long into the future! The building will no doubt attain new levels of success and grandeur.

    I think it's fairly safe to assume that Trump will become the most redacted President in American history. I'll eat my Trump-popcorn whilst I can.
  • Surely if the eventual re-organisation isn't sorted, that's more of a reason for these elections to go ahead, not less.
    Labour (and the Tories?) are frit!
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,278
    Have we done this? I've been busy today.


    Pippa Crerar

    @PippaCrerar

    🚨Keir Starmer's No 10 is cancelling the afternoon lobby briefing, when journalists can ask the PM's spox as many questions they like, for as long as they like.

    They'll also sometimes cancel morning lobby, replacing it with press conferences with ministers, meaning many orgs will have opportunity for questions restricted.

    The lobby may be an imperfect system, but these briefings give journalists from every outlet, regardless of editorial line, the chance to ask whatever they want.

    This move is bad for transparency, bad for accountability, and a bad look for a government that already struggles with its communications.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 53,586
    scampi25 said:

    It's very amusing to here all the advise for the Tories from non-tories. Anyone would think the panic about Reform was growing. Yet only the other day some were posting that Reform had peaked. Indeed I doubt they can get much beyond 33/5% and probably less. However, it's also quite possibly true tha the Labour bottom is not yet there. All very funny.

    My advice, which is very good advice, is to learn how to spell advice properly, so that others will take your own advice more seriously than advice given in a post where you cant actually spell the word advice, thereby detracting from the credibility of your own advice; just my advice, obvs.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,339

    Q: What kind of music do elves listen to?

    A: Wrap.

    Puns don't kill people, wrappers do.

    Q: What kind of music do elves listen to?

    A: Wrap.

    Puns don't kill people, wrappers do.
    “Well, I was terrified. Everyone was terrified of Doug. I've seen grown men pull their own heads off rather than see Doug. Even Dinsdale was frightened of Doug.

    (What did he do?)

    He used sarcasm. He knew all the tricks. Dramatic irony, bathos, puns, parody, hyperbole, litotes and satire.

    He was vicious.”
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,865
    edited December 18
    Latest odds:

    Rory 1.25
    Lando 8
    Chloe 15

    But only two golfers have ever won SPOTY - Dai Rees (in 1957) and Nick Faldo. So only one in the last 67 years.

    I hope Rory wins but fear he won't.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 341

    Have we done this? I've been busy today.


    Pippa Crerar

    @PippaCrerar

    🚨Keir Starmer's No 10 is cancelling the afternoon lobby briefing, when journalists can ask the PM's spox as many questions they like, for as long as they like.

    They'll also sometimes cancel morning lobby, replacing it with press conferences with ministers, meaning many orgs will have opportunity for questions restricted.

    The lobby may be an imperfect system, but these briefings give journalists from every outlet, regardless of editorial line, the chance to ask whatever they want.

    This move is bad for transparency, bad for accountability, and a bad look for a government that already struggles with its communications.

    Is this a Christmas thing cause they are all hungover or permanent?

    Maybe Mr Starmer will spend more time on the road meeting real people like the McLaren F1 workforce
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 341

    Enough of the trivia, time for the big decision of the day. SPOTY or the darts?

    Watch Chizzy and van gerwen matches, the BBC team will still be waffling once those games are finished
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