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Politcalbetting's Marf on Tony Blair's offer to LAB pic.twitter.com/0owiJ6rzTX
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I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
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Very true Marf, and a nice homage.0
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I presume Blair must still have some people who will listen to him with respect, given how successful he was in the past, but it doesn't feel much like it thesedays.0
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After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.0 -
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Glad to see you will never insult a topic or group you dislike or disagree with, and I am sure never have done so in order to be so offended someone might attack pensioners* - a high standard to hold yourself to there.Flightpath said:
I grow tired of insults to pensioners. Crass rude insults at that...TheScreamingEagles said:
You do realise that you do more harm to the Tory cause every time you post.Flightpath said:
Don't you realise that people like Casino think that ratbag moneybags pensioners like you should be funding the deficit?SandraM said:
I am a recent pensioner and I find Casino Royale's comments offensive. I have Facebook and twitter accounts and so do many of my age group. The term OAP now can encompass a generation; my mother is a silver surfer but can't be bothered with Facebook and twitter, although she sometimes watches things on YouTube.jayfdee said:@Casino_Royale
OAPs are not only not on youtube, twitter or facebook, they scarcely know what it is.
A bit patronising,I am a few months away from my state pension and spend far too much time on FB and Youtube,however I give twitter a miss.
Every week is be nasty to pensioners week on PB.
Mr Royale would never say or think the views you've just ascribed to him.
But I suppose if you really want me to harm the tory cause with the usual suspects around here then maybe I should repeat my view that Osborne is doing a good job of managing the economy and Cameron is not a bad Prime Minister.
I think Osborne has been middling - I am most annoyed at the failure on deficit reduction, but it is not as though anyone else wanted to reduce it by any more than has been achieved, so I'm not furious about it - and I would prefer Cameron to continue on as our PM.
*which to prevent you from getting upset I will point out I personally have not done.0 -
Great cartoon, Marf!0
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Blair was very impressive in his time. I saw him speak in 1995 and really charm a slightly sceptical midlands audience. He was also right in realising how crucial Mandelson was, in both 1997 and in baling out Gordon in 2010. I think Mandelson is the reason that we have a coalition rather than a Tory majority.kle4 said:I presume Blair must still have some people who will listen to him with respect, given how successful he was in the past, but it doesn't feel much like it thesedays.
Blair is now a liability (apart from Attlee it is reamarkeable how disliked within the party the electorally successful PMs are) but getting Mandelson on board for Ed could make all the difference. The guy is a serpent, but a very successful serpent.0 -
I would rather catch EBOLA than have an offer of help from Toxic Tony0
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Flightpath is the ultimate political hypocrite. Always attacking others for what he claims are insults whilst doing exactly the same thing to his political enemies - which is basically anyone who is not a Cameroon Tory. His false horror at the supposed insults dished out to Pensioners is just another example of this.kle4 said:FPT
Glad to see you will never insult a topic or group you dislike or disagree with, and I am sure never have done so in order to be so offended someone might attack pensioners* - a high standard to hold yourself to there.Flightpath said:
I grow tired of insults to pensioners. Crass rude insults at that...TheScreamingEagles said:
You do realise that you do more harm to the Tory cause every time you post.Flightpath said:
Don't you realise that people like Casino think that ratbag moneybags pensioners like you should be funding the deficit?SandraM said:
I am a recent pensioner and I find Casino Royale's comments offensive. I have Facebook and twitter accounts and so do many of my age group. The term OAP now can encompass a generation; my mother is a silver surfer but can't be bothered with Facebook and twitter, although she sometimes watches things on YouTube.jayfdee said:@Casino_Royale
OAPs are not only not on youtube, twitter or facebook, they scarcely know what it is.
A bit patronising,I am a few months away from my state pension and spend far too much time on FB and Youtube,however I give twitter a miss.
Every week is be nasty to pensioners week on PB.
Mr Royale would never say or think the views you've just ascribed to him.
But I suppose if you really want me to harm the tory cause with the usual suspects around here then maybe I should repeat my view that Osborne is doing a good job of managing the economy and Cameron is not a bad Prime Minister.
I think Osborne has been middling - I am most annoyed at the failure on deficit reduction, but it is not as though anyone else wanted to reduce it by any more than has been achieved, so I'm not furious about it - and I would prefer Cameron to continue on as our PM.
*which to prevent you from getting upset I will point out I personally have not done.0 -
Granted I only grew to political awareness in the very late 90s/early 2000s, but Blair always put me off by seeming to be a thoroughly oily and smarmy individual. Frankly at the time I preferred Brown, inasmuch as I was aware of him at any rate. But I cannot but presume you are correct about him, even considering what I'm told was the paucity of effective opposition at the time.foxinsoxuk said:
Blair was very impressive in his time.kle4 said:I presume Blair must still have some people who will listen to him with respect, given how successful he was in the past, but it doesn't feel much like it thesedays.
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"And I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for that pesky Chilcot Report!"0
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Toxic Tony?bigjohnowls said:I would rather catch EBOLA than have an offer of help from Toxic Tony
Blair's net rating with Ipsos-Mori when he stood down as PM was minus 27
Ed's rating last month was minus 35.
Can you explain how Ed Miliband managed to be even more unpopular than Blair, without lying about invading a foreign country and killing 100,000 natives?0 -
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Probably more scarred I would say. ;-)0 -
I saw Blair speak in New York, sitting at a table full of Americans. They loved him, and genuinely couldn't understand why he was no longer prime minister. While it sounds ridiculous, they regarded him in the same vein of Thatcher, Reagan, or Roosevelt.0
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It seems the labour voters this time are voting the policies than voting the man,dangerous times for the tories.TheScreamingEagles said:
Toxic Tony?bigjohnowls said:I would rather catch EBOLA than have an offer of help from Toxic Tony
Blair's net rating with Ipsos-Mori when he stood down as PM was minus 27
Ed's rating last month was minus 35.
Can you explain how Ed Miliband managed to be even more unpopular than Blair, without lying about invading a foreign country and killing 100,000 natives?
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For me, I don't think it's even the case that Blair is reviled by the public, atleast outside of the hard left. People just see him as completely irrelevant these days, really.kle4 said:I presume Blair must still have some people who will listen to him with respect, given how successful he was in the past, but it doesn't feel much like it thesedays.
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The tricks work as long as the others don't know it's a trick.foxinsoxuk said:
Blair was very impressive in his time. I saw him speak in 1995 and really charm a slightly sceptical midlands audience. He was also right in realising how crucial Mandelson was, in both 1997 and in baling out Gordon in 2010. I think Mandelson is the reason that we have a coalition rather than a Tory majority.kle4 said:I presume Blair must still have some people who will listen to him with respect, given how successful he was in the past, but it doesn't feel much like it thesedays.
Blair is now a liability (apart from Attlee it is reamarkeable how disliked within the party the electorally successful PMs are) but getting Mandelson on board for Ed could make all the difference. The guy is a serpent, but a very successful serpent.
Everyone knows that Blair and Mandelson are tricksters so the tricks don't work anymore.
Blair was a very good liar (which made him very successful in politics initially), and Mandelson was very good at controlling the flow and direction of said lies to the old media.
However times have changed, Blair is in the political gutter for a decade now after the public had had enough of his lies and Newspapers&TV are less dominant in the media, also many of Mandelson's friends have retired so are of no use.0 -
Maybe. As we see with Thatcher, they can keep that up for a long long time, too. If someone tries to get my vote by trying to scare me or please me by going on about her, I may scream.Danny565 said:
For me, I don't think it's even the case that Blair is reviled by the public, atleast outside of the hard left.kle4 said:I presume Blair must still have some people who will listen to him with respect, given how successful he was in the past, but it doesn't feel much like it thesedays.
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Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.0 -
Blair's rating with Ipsos Mori would be far worse than even Miliband's is now if they asked the question.TheScreamingEagles said:
Toxic Tony?bigjohnowls said:I would rather catch EBOLA than have an offer of help from Toxic Tony
Blair's net rating with Ipsos-Mori when he stood down as PM was minus 27
Ed's rating last month was minus 35.
Can you explain how Ed Miliband managed to be even more unpopular than Blair, without lying about invading a foreign country and killing 100,000 natives?0 -
I was staying in a Backpackers hostel in Borneo in 1990 with a group of mostly British and European travellers. The Chinese landlady came in with a shocked expression and announced that Mrs Thatcher had resigned. The place errupted into spontaneous cheers.rcs1000 said:I saw Blair speak in New York, sitting at a table full of Americans. They loved him, and genuinely couldn't understand why he was no longer prime minister. While it sounds ridiculous, they regarded him in the same vein of Thatcher, Reagan, or Roosevelt.
Politicians are often popular overseas long after they have worn out their welcome domestically.0 -
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I'm sure the cartoon is very funny. I was disappointed not to see Marf's "take" on Let's All Laugh At Lord Ashcroft day, though - surely the most obvious target ever during her residency here?0 -
Maybe not.Pulpstar said:
Blair's rating with Ipsos Mori would be far worse than even Miliband's is now if they asked the question.TheScreamingEagles said:
Toxic Tony?bigjohnowls said:I would rather catch EBOLA than have an offer of help from Toxic Tony
Blair's net rating with Ipsos-Mori when he stood down as PM was minus 27
Ed's rating last month was minus 35.
Can you explain how Ed Miliband managed to be even more unpopular than Blair, without lying about invading a foreign country and killing 100,000 natives?
In the last few years, there's been polling showing Blair being the most likeable PM of recent times, and the second best PM after Thatcher0 -
The Tories hate him because of the social policies he enacted (and the large deficit).Danny565 said:
For me, I don't think it's even the case that Blair is reviled by the public, atleast outside of the hard left. People just see him as completely irrelevant these days, really.kle4 said:I presume Blair must still have some people who will listen to him with respect, given how successful he was in the past, but it doesn't feel much like it thesedays.
The Labourites hate him because he steamrolled the party.
The LD's hate him because of his foreign policy.
The only people who are left as his fans are John Rentoul, Dan Hodges and George W. Bush.0 -
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.0 -
Major towers over Blair.TheScreamingEagles said:
Maybe not.Pulpstar said:
Blair's rating with Ipsos Mori would be far worse than even Miliband's is now if they asked the question.TheScreamingEagles said:
Toxic Tony?bigjohnowls said:I would rather catch EBOLA than have an offer of help from Toxic Tony
Blair's net rating with Ipsos-Mori when he stood down as PM was minus 27
Ed's rating last month was minus 35.
Can you explain how Ed Miliband managed to be even more unpopular than Blair, without lying about invading a foreign country and killing 100,000 natives?
In the last few years, there's been polling showing Blair being the most likeable PM of recent times, and the second best PM after Thatcher0 -
I thought you were going to vote Tory if I vote Tory in Ilford North!TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.0 -
From 2011 - Ipsos Mori finds Margaret Thatcher is seen as the most capable leader of the last 30 years though Tony Blair is more likeable
https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/2819/Most-capablemost-likeable-Prime-Minister.aspx
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I will.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought you were going to vote Tory if I vote Tory in Ilford North!TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
I could topple Nick Clegg though.
As Uncle Ben said, "with great power, comes great responsibility"0 -
Should be funTheScreamingEagles said:
I will.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought you were going to vote Tory if I vote Tory in Ilford North!TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
I could topple Nick Clegg though
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Why? Is there an election coming up?TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
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And help Labour win the seatTheScreamingEagles said:
I will.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought you were going to vote Tory if I vote Tory in Ilford North!TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
I could topple Nick Clegg though.
As Uncle Ben said, "with great power, comes great responsibility"
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And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
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Yeah, I think people do have memories of the country being in a reasonably OK state when he was leader, foreign policy aside. Very few people are enthusiastic about Blair in the way that many people still are about Thatcher, but I really don't think he has all that many "haters" even though those haters he does have are very vocal.TheScreamingEagles said:From 2011 - Ipsos Mori finds Margaret Thatcher is seen as the most capable leader of the last 30 years though Tony Blair is more likeable
https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/2819/Most-capablemost-likeable-Prime-Minister.aspx0 -
I know, I know.MikeSmithson said:
And help Labour win the seatTheScreamingEagles said:
I will.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought you were going to vote Tory if I vote Tory in Ilford North!TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
I could topple Nick Clegg though.
As Uncle Ben said, "with great power, comes great responsibility"
I'm proud of growing up and living in a seat that has never elected a Labour MP0 -
Marginals are very different. We're on our third round of canvassing every street since the last election (though obviously not everyone is in each time, and some are mysteriously never in). It does give a good feel for movements in sentiment - you can feel tides moving in and out. In my experience, around 75% nearly always say the same thing (give or take priods of don't knowing) over a 20-year period, but 25% are genuinely more fluid, and occasionally you get an abrupt switch when someone who was always X suddenly hates X because of one issue, often something quite apparently inconsequential like a supermarket getting planning permission or a councillor not answering a letter.kle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
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He's popular still in Ireland, cos of the Good Friday Agreement.0
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DNFTTZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
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It's more a reflection that I'm torn on what to do in this election.ZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
Doing that is probably the only thing that will give me pleasure.
I'm tempted to register back in the flat in Manchester Central, where my vote won't really count.0 -
Maybe I am naive but DFNTT does not translate to meGrandiose said:
DNFTTZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
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Andrew Neil ✔ @afneil
Rotherham -- it gets worse
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/exclusive-mp-and-home-office-failed-to-act-on-rotherham-grooming-11-years-ago-1-6913834 …
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While not a ukip supporter and a conservative voter in 2010 I could not possibly vote for someone who thought that encryption policy was good. It merely showed the man knows bugger all and it would wreak havoc. It is worse than milibrands energy price cap for its sheer idiocy. The man is an idiot who employs advisors who's stupidity is truly legendaryTheScreamingEagles said:
It's more a reflection that I'm torn on what to do in this election.ZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
Doing that is probably the only thing that will give me pleasure.
I'm tempted to register back in the flat in Manchester Central, where my vote won't really count.
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You voted to keep a labour police commissioner in rotherham didn't you?TheScreamingEagles said:
I know, I know.MikeSmithson said:
And help Labour win the seatTheScreamingEagles said:
I will.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought you were going to vote Tory if I vote Tory in Ilford North!TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
I could topple Nick Clegg though.
As Uncle Ben said, "with great power, comes great responsibility"
I'm proud of growing up and living in a seat that has never elected a Labour MP
Andrew Neil (@afneil)
08/02/2015 20:52
Rotherham -- it gets worse
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/exclusive-mp-and-home-office-failed-to-act-on-rotherham-grooming-11-years-ago-1-69138340 -
"Do not feed the trolls"ZenPagan said:
Maybe I am naive but DFNTT does not translate to meGrandiose said:
DNFTTZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
TSE clearly does not plan to actually do that, he's just trying to get a reaction.
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Ah thank you for the educationGrandiose said:
"Do not feed the trolls"ZenPagan said:
Maybe I am naive but DFNTT does not translate to meGrandiose said:
DNFTTZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
TSE clearly does not plan to actually do that, he's just trying to get a reaction.
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So what?MikeSmithson said:
And help Labour win the seatTheScreamingEagles said:
I will.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought you were going to vote Tory if I vote Tory in Ilford North!TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
I could topple Nick Clegg though.
As Uncle Ben said, "with great power, comes great responsibility"
It seems that we are faced with the grim horror of EICIPM.
Therefore the destruction of the LDs becomes the only small consolation left available on election night. So hurrah for that, at least.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2944946/Thousands-British-Muslims-protest-against-Charlie-Hebdo-magazine-publishing-cartoons-Prophet-Mohammed.html
This sort of thing is putting peoples backs up. If the Muslim organisers thought they would be gaining friends and respect, think again. The comments below are livid.0 -
No I did not.isam said:
You voted to keep a labour police commissioner in rotherham didn't you?TheScreamingEagles said:
I know, I know.MikeSmithson said:
And help Labour win the seatTheScreamingEagles said:
I will.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought you were going to vote Tory if I vote Tory in Ilford North!TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
I could topple Nick Clegg though.
As Uncle Ben said, "with great power, comes great responsibility"
I'm proud of growing up and living in a seat that has never elected a Labour MP
Andrew Neil (@afneil)
08/02/2015 20:52
Rotherham -- it gets worse
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/exclusive-mp-and-home-office-failed-to-act-on-rotherham-grooming-11-years-ago-1-6913834
Why are you reposting month old stories like they are new and have been denied I think.0 -
I wonder who else has the files?
"HSBC bank 'helped clients dodge millions in tax"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-312489130 -
Surely the fewer LDs are dispatched in the event of EICIPM the better, as it leaves more potential for them to take advantage of a Labour government faster, and thus reduce the odds of it happening again? MOre of them around to undermine him for starters.GeoffM said:
So what?MikeSmithson said:
And help Labour win the seatTheScreamingEagles said:
I will.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought you were going to vote Tory if I vote Tory in Ilford North!TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
I could topple Nick Clegg though.
As Uncle Ben said, "with great power, comes great responsibility"
It seems that we are faced with the grim horror of EICIPM.
Therefore the destruction of the LDs becomes the only small consolation left available on election night. So hurrah for that, at least.
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Backpackers? - stoned out of their minds?foxinsoxuk said:
I was staying in a Backpackers hostel in Borneo in 1990 with a group of mostly British and European travellers. The Chinese landlady came in with a shocked expression and announced that Mrs Thatcher had resigned. The place errupted into spontaneous cheers.rcs1000 said:I saw Blair speak in New York, sitting at a table full of Americans. They loved him, and genuinely couldn't understand why he was no longer prime minister. While it sounds ridiculous, they regarded him in the same vein of Thatcher, Reagan, or Roosevelt.
Politicians are often popular overseas long after they have worn out their welcome domestically.
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The LibDems will only be destroyed if the Conservatives occupy the space formerly occupied by them. Otherwise, they shall re-appear, perhaps with a different name, within months of their demise.GeoffM said:
So what?MikeSmithson said:
And help Labour win the seatTheScreamingEagles said:
I will.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought you were going to vote Tory if I vote Tory in Ilford North!TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
I could topple Nick Clegg though.
As Uncle Ben said, "with great power, comes great responsibility"
It seems that we are faced with the grim horror of EICIPM.
Therefore the destruction of the LDs becomes the only small consolation left available on election night. So hurrah for that, at least.0 -
I posted exactly this hours ago. I guess it needs Andrew Neil name to make PBers take notice.Tykejohnno said:
Andrew Neil ✔ @afneil
Rotherham -- it gets worse
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/exclusive-mp-and-home-office-failed-to-act-on-rotherham-grooming-11-years-ago-1-6913834 …0 -
The delightful MacShane, too busy producing bogus invoices to notice 1,400 children being raped on his patch.MikeK said:
I posted exactly this hours ago. I guess it needs Andrew Neil name to make PBers take notice.Tykejohnno said:
Andrew Neil ✔ @afneil
Rotherham -- it gets worse
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/exclusive-mp-and-home-office-failed-to-act-on-rotherham-grooming-11-years-ago-1-6913834 …
Vote Labour, get scum like MacShane0 -
Surely the real story is:MikeK said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2944946/Thousands-British-Muslims-protest-against-Charlie-Hebdo-magazine-publishing-cartoons-Prophet-Mohammed.html
This sort of thing is putting peoples backs up. If the Muslim organisers thought they would be gaining friends and respect, think again. The comments below are livid.
"Millions of British Muslims did not go to protest about Charlie Hebdo, and the numbers claimed by organisers for those who would attend were out by a factor of 15."0 -
You need a sense of humour.Grandiose said:
"Do not feed the trolls"ZenPagan said:
Maybe I am naive but DFNTT does not translate to meGrandiose said:
DNFTTZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
TSE clearly does not plan to actually do that, he's just trying to get a reaction.
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But the space they occupy (economically conservative, but socially liberal and pro-Europe at the same time) has very little support outside of a few metrosexual City bankers.rcs1000 said:
The LibDems will only be destroyed if the Conservatives occupy the space formerly occupied by them. Otherwise, they shall re-appear, perhaps with a different name, within months of their demise.GeoffM said:
So what?MikeSmithson said:
And help Labour win the seatTheScreamingEagles said:
I will.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought you were going to vote Tory if I vote Tory in Ilford North!TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
I could topple Nick Clegg though.
As Uncle Ben said, "with great power, comes great responsibility"
It seems that we are faced with the grim horror of EICIPM.
Therefore the destruction of the LDs becomes the only small consolation left available on election night. So hurrah for that, at least.0 -
I know a few people who work for a bank's IT department.ZenPagan said:
While not a ukip supporter and a conservative voter in 2010 I could not possibly vote for someone who thought that encryption policy was good. It merely showed the man knows bugger all and it would wreak havoc. It is worse than milibrands energy price cap for its sheer idiocy. The man is an idiot who employs advisors who's stupidity is truly legendaryTheScreamingEagles said:
It's more a reflection that I'm torn on what to do in this election.ZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
Doing that is probably the only thing that will give me pleasure.
I'm tempted to register back in the flat in Manchester Central, where my vote won't really count.
You should hear what they say about Ed Miliband's policy to allow people to transfer their bank sort code/account number between banks.
They are the view, we're governed by IT illiterates.0 -
Vote Labour in Ilford North!Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought you were going to vote Tory if I vote Tory in Ilford North!TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
It's the only worthwhile choice...0 -
And as Kick-Ass said, "with no power, comes no responsibility"TheScreamingEagles said:
I will.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought you were going to vote Tory if I vote Tory in Ilford North!TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
I could topple Nick Clegg though.
As Uncle Ben said, "with great power, comes great responsibility" 0 -
This is why I like Boris, and why he shouldn't written off in the next Tory leadership election.
He's not ashamed to be a capitalist/on the side of Free enterprise, which ticks the box for a lot of Tory activists.
Ed Miliband will never understand that capitalism can cure cancer
Boris Johnson says the risk-taking, profit-seeking investors that Labour scorns are vital to turning scientific breakthroughs into technology that benefits us all
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11398870/Ed-Miliband-will-never-understand-that-capitalism-can-cure-cancer.html0 -
You're channelling Pulpstarmurali_s said:
Vote Labour in Ilford North!Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought you were going to vote Tory if I vote Tory in Ilford North!TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
It's the only worthwhile choice... 0 -
They are vital for creating economic crashes as well, but that entails very little risk.0
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Oh, those assholes. The same ones who told us about portable telephone numbers and the Millennium Bomb.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know a few people who work for a bank's IT department.ZenPagan said:
While not a ukip supporter and a conservative voter in 2010 I could not possibly vote for someone who thought that encryption policy was good. It merely showed the man knows bugger all and it would wreak havoc. It is worse than milibrands energy price cap for its sheer idiocy. The man is an idiot who employs advisors who's stupidity is truly legendaryTheScreamingEagles said:
It's more a reflection that I'm torn on what to do in this election.ZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
Doing that is probably the only thing that will give me pleasure.
I'm tempted to register back in the flat in Manchester Central, where my vote won't really count.
You should hear what they say about Ed Miliband's policy to allow people to transfer their bank sort code/account number between banks.
They are the view, we're governed by IT illiterates.0 -
Don't worry TSE!TheScreamingEagles said:
You need a sense of humour.Grandiose said:
"Do not feed the trolls"ZenPagan said:
Maybe I am naive but DFNTT does not translate to meGrandiose said:
DNFTTZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
TSE clearly does not plan to actually do that, he's just trying to get a reaction.
I get it, but Zen did sound worked up...0 -
Can you techies come up with a universal symbol for sarcasm on the internet?Grandiose said:
Don't worry TSE!TheScreamingEagles said:
You need a sense of humour.Grandiose said:
"Do not feed the trolls"ZenPagan said:
Maybe I am naive but DFNTT does not translate to meGrandiose said:
DNFTTZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
TSE clearly does not plan to actually do that, he's just trying to get a reaction.
I get it, but Zen did sound worked up...
I mean if we can send humans to the moon...0 -
It was a peaceful protest apparently, so what's the problem? Though it does mention some bullsh1t excuse that "protesters were separated by gender during the protest 'out of respect for the women'".rcs1000 said:
Surely the real story is:MikeK said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2944946/Thousands-British-Muslims-protest-against-Charlie-Hebdo-magazine-publishing-cartoons-Prophet-Mohammed.html
This sort of thing is putting peoples backs up. If the Muslim organisers thought they would be gaining friends and respect, think again. The comments below are livid.
"Millions of British Muslims did not go to protest about Charlie Hebdo, and the numbers claimed by organisers for those who would attend were out by a factor of 15."
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Giant Scandal about to blow:
http://www.icij.org/project/swiss-leaks/banking-giant-hsbc-sheltered-murky-cash-linked-dictators-and-arms-dealers
"The documents obtained by ICIJ are based on data originally smuggled away by a former HSBC employee-turned-whistleblower, Hervé Falciani, and handed to French authorities in 2008. Le Monde obtained material from the French tax authority investigation into the files and then shared the French tax authority’s material with ICIJ with the agreement that ICIJ would pull together a team of journalists from multiple countries that could sift through the data from all angles.
ICIJ enlisted more than 140 journalists from 45 countries, including reporters from Le Monde, the BBC, The Guardian, 60 Minutes, Süddeutsche Zeitung and more than 45 other media organizations."
"The reporters found the names of current and former politicians from BRITAIN, Russia, Ukraine, Georgia, Kenya, Romania, India, Liechtenstein, Mexico, Tunisia, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Zimbabwe, Rwanda, Paraguay, Djibouti, Senegal, the Philippines and Algeria, among others."0 -
"you techies"TheScreamingEagles said:
Can you techies come up with a universal symbol for sarcasm on the internet?Grandiose said:
Don't worry TSE!TheScreamingEagles said:
You need a sense of humour.Grandiose said:
"Do not feed the trolls"ZenPagan said:
Maybe I am naive but DFNTT does not translate to meGrandiose said:
DNFTTZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
TSE clearly does not plan to actually do that, he's just trying to get a reaction.
I get it, but Zen did sound worked up...
I mean if we can send humans to the moon...
Policemen starting to look younger TSE?0 -
You see the pictures in the paper. Count the protesters. That was exactly how many people who went. There are no protesters out of shot.The_Woodpecker said:
It was a peaceful protest apparently, so what's the problem? Though it does mention some bullsh1t excuse that "protesters were separated by gender during the protest 'out of respect for the women'".rcs1000 said:
Surely the real story is:MikeK said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2944946/Thousands-British-Muslims-protest-against-Charlie-Hebdo-magazine-publishing-cartoons-Prophet-Mohammed.html
This sort of thing is putting peoples backs up. If the Muslim organisers thought they would be gaining friends and respect, think again. The comments below are livid.
"Millions of British Muslims did not go to protest about Charlie Hebdo, and the numbers claimed by organisers for those who would attend were out by a factor of 15."0 -
No. But Neil has more impact than you outside of PB and not everyone reads all the posts and will have missed yours.MikeK said:
I posted exactly this hours ago. I guess it needs Andrew Neil name to make PBers take notice.Tykejohnno said:
Andrew Neil ✔ @afneil
Rotherham -- it gets worse
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/exclusive-mp-and-home-office-failed-to-act-on-rotherham-grooming-11-years-ago-1-6913834 …
The point to be made is how the EC had a small role in the scandal. One man's love of the EC distracted him from his main job. It led him to raise money illegally to fund his EC work and he overlooked a letter from the people he should have cared about.
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I thought you worked in the IT profession, my apologies if you don't.Grandiose said:
"you techies"TheScreamingEagles said:
Can you techies come up with a universal symbol for sarcasm on the internet?Grandiose said:
Don't worry TSE!TheScreamingEagles said:
You need a sense of humour.Grandiose said:
"Do not feed the trolls"ZenPagan said:
Maybe I am naive but DFNTT does not translate to meGrandiose said:
DNFTTZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
TSE clearly does not plan to actually do that, he's just trying to get a reaction.
I get it, but Zen did sound worked up...
I mean if we can send humans to the moon...
Policemen starting to look younger TSE?
That said I am going through an age related crisis.0 -
They are in the main not economically conservative, what is traditionally called classic liberals (such as Thatcher). The clique running the LDs are, but they are a minority. Most of the LD party are state interventionist bordering on socialism, aka "social democrats" closer to New Labour (economically). The question is whether New Lab joins the LDs or the 2/3 social LDs join Labour?Danny565 said:
But the space they occupy (economically conservative, but socially liberal and pro-Europe at the same time) has very little support outside of a few metrosexual City bankers.rcs1000 said:
The LibDems will only be destroyed if the Conservatives occupy the space formerly occupied by them. Otherwise, they shall re-appear, perhaps with a different name, within months of their demise.GeoffM said:
So what?MikeSmithson said:
And help Labour win the seatTheScreamingEagles said:
I will.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought you were going to vote Tory if I vote Tory in Ilford North!TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
I could topple Nick Clegg though.
As Uncle Ben said, "with great power, comes great responsibility"
It seems that we are faced with the grim horror of EICIPM.
Therefore the destruction of the LDs becomes the only small consolation left available on election night. So hurrah for that, at least.
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Worked up does not even begin to cover my contempt for the encryption policy he announced. The man is a moron and advised by morons. Why would I vote for such a contemptible little shitGrandiose said:
Don't worry TSE!TheScreamingEagles said:
You need a sense of humour.Grandiose said:
"Do not feed the trolls"ZenPagan said:
Maybe I am naive but DFNTT does not translate to meGrandiose said:
DNFTTZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
TSE clearly does not plan to actually do that, he's just trying to get a reaction.
I get it, but Zen did sound worked up...
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I don't, but I have no problem being described as a techie!TheScreamingEagles said:
I thought you worked in the IT profession, my apologies if you don't.Grandiose said:
"you techies"TheScreamingEagles said:
Can you techies come up with a universal symbol for sarcasm on the internet?Grandiose said:
Don't worry TSE!TheScreamingEagles said:
You need a sense of humour.Grandiose said:
"Do not feed the trolls"ZenPagan said:
Maybe I am naive but DFNTT does not translate to meGrandiose said:
DNFTTZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
TSE clearly does not plan to actually do that, he's just trying to get a reaction.
I get it, but Zen did sound worked up...
I mean if we can send humans to the moon...
Policemen starting to look younger TSE?
That said I am going through an age related crisis.
Just your exclusionary usage of "you" as if you could do it yourself!0 -
Yes a man distracted by his love for the EC.nigel4england said:
The delightful MacShane, too busy producing bogus invoices to notice 1,400 children being raped on his patch.MikeK said:
I posted exactly this hours ago. I guess it needs Andrew Neil name to make PBers take notice.Tykejohnno said:
Andrew Neil ✔ @afneil
Rotherham -- it gets worse
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/exclusive-mp-and-home-office-failed-to-act-on-rotherham-grooming-11-years-ago-1-6913834 …
Vote Labour, get scum like MacShane
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They have the right to peaceful protest, as distasteful as I find it.0
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You could give audreyanne a run for her money in the art of being, simultaneously, patronising and wrong. The "real story" is something that happened, not one of the infinite number of vaguely similar things that didn't happen. Would you have regaled us with the news that the "real story" was that millions of men have not walked on the moon today? Was the "real story" that over 99% of the buildings in New York's financial centre have not been struck by an airliner today?rcs1000 said:
Surely the real story is:MikeK said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2944946/Thousands-British-Muslims-protest-against-Charlie-Hebdo-magazine-publishing-cartoons-Prophet-Mohammed.html
This sort of thing is putting peoples backs up. If the Muslim organisers thought they would be gaining friends and respect, think again. The comments below are livid.
"Millions of British Muslims did not go to protest about Charlie Hebdo, and the numbers claimed by organisers for those who would attend were out by a factor of 15."
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Say what you really mean, don't keep it bottled in.ZenPagan said:
Worked up does not even begin to cover my contempt for the encryption policy he announced. The man is a moron and advised by morons. Why would I vote for such a contemptible little shitGrandiose said:
Don't worry TSE!TheScreamingEagles said:
You need a sense of humour.Grandiose said:
"Do not feed the trolls"ZenPagan said:
Maybe I am naive but DFNTT does not translate to meGrandiose said:
DNFTTZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
TSE clearly does not plan to actually do that, he's just trying to get a reaction.
I get it, but Zen did sound worked up...0 -
heh I rarely doTheScreamingEagles said:
Say what you really mean, don't keep it bottled in.ZenPagan said:
Worked up does not even begin to cover my contempt for the encryption policy he announced. The man is a moron and advised by morons. Why would I vote for such a contemptible little shitGrandiose said:
Don't worry TSE!TheScreamingEagles said:
You need a sense of humour.Grandiose said:
"Do not feed the trolls"ZenPagan said:
Maybe I am naive but DFNTT does not translate to meGrandiose said:
DNFTTZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
TSE clearly does not plan to actually do that, he's just trying to get a reaction.
I get it, but Zen did sound worked up...
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Ummm: if McShane had been - say - a big tennis fan, would you be posting about how distracted he was by his love of tennis?TCPoliticalBetting said:
Yes a man distracted by his love for the EC.nigel4england said:
The delightful MacShane, too busy producing bogus invoices to notice 1,400 children being raped on his patch.MikeK said:
I posted exactly this hours ago. I guess it needs Andrew Neil name to make PBers take notice.Tykejohnno said:
Andrew Neil ✔ @afneil
Rotherham -- it gets worse
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/exclusive-mp-and-home-office-failed-to-act-on-rotherham-grooming-11-years-ago-1-6913834 …
Vote Labour, get scum like MacShane
Rotherham was a failure of political correctness, a failure of the Labour council, a failure of good people to speak up, a failure of elected representatives to listen.
This is one of the few things that was truly not a failure of the EU/EC.0 -
All 4 main UK parties are too much "broad churches" overlapping each other with "power" the only thing keeping them together.GeoffM said:
So what?MikeSmithson said:
And help Labour win the seatTheScreamingEagles said:
I will.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I thought you were going to vote Tory if I vote Tory in Ilford North!TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
I could topple Nick Clegg though.
As Uncle Ben said, "with great power, comes great responsibility"
It seems that we are faced with the grim horror of EICIPM.
Therefore the destruction of the LDs becomes the only small consolation left available on election night. So hurrah for that, at least.
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TheScreamingEagles said:
I thought you worked in the IT profession, my apologies if you don't.Grandiose said:
"you techies"TheScreamingEagles said:
Can you techies come up with a universal symbol for sarcasm on the internet?Grandiose said:
Don't worry TSE!TheScreamingEagles said:
You need a sense of humour.Grandiose said:
"Do not feed the trolls"ZenPagan said:
Maybe I am naive but DFNTT does not translate to meGrandiose said:
DNFTTZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
TSE clearly does not plan to actually do that, he's just trying to get a reaction.
I get it, but Zen did sound worked up...
I mean if we can send humans to the moon...
Policemen starting to look younger TSE?
That said I am going through an age related crisis.
"That said I am going through an age related crisis."
Puberty?
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This penalty shoot out between Ghana and Côte d'Ivoire is awful.
Is like if England had to take on England in a penalty shoot out.0 -
That's a few years off.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
I thought you worked in the IT profession, my apologies if you don't.Grandiose said:
"you techies"TheScreamingEagles said:
Can you techies come up with a universal symbol for sarcasm on the internet?Grandiose said:
Don't worry TSE!TheScreamingEagles said:
You need a sense of humour.Grandiose said:
"Do not feed the trolls"ZenPagan said:
Maybe I am naive but DFNTT does not translate to meGrandiose said:
DNFTTZenPagan said:
And what will you write against the tory candidate. Racist because he supports an immigration policy that favours white europeans? Fruitcake and loon because he supports Camerons idiotic encryption policy?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think I'm going to spoil my ballot and write" "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly" next to UKIPSandyRentool said:
Speaking as someone who fell into the trap last time, whatever you do don't vote tactically for the LibDems!TheScreamingEagles said:
After only living in safe seats and a Labour shitehole, I now live in the key marginal of Sheffield Hallamkle4 said:
I feel your pain. I only got 1 leaflet from Con last time, 2 from the LDs, 1 from UKIP, and nothing from Labour. I'm hopeful even though it is not a target seat for them I get some more UKIP activity this time, they were pretty active for the Euro elections and I even missed a canvasser from them a few months back! I was shattered to have missed it, given no-one has ever bothered before.GIN1138 said:I live in a safe Con seat... Nobody cares about me!
AND IT IS BLOODY EXCITING.
My vote finally counts.
TSE clearly does not plan to actually do that, he's just trying to get a reaction.
I get it, but Zen did sound worked up...
I mean if we can send humans to the moon...
Policemen starting to look younger TSE?
That said I am going through an age related crisis.
"That said I am going through an age related crisis."
Puberty?0 -
The Giant Scandal is here:
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-31248913
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/feb/08/hsbc-files-expose-swiss-bank-clients-dodge-taxes-hide-millions
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/irish-names-in-hbsc-bank-s-secret-files-1.2096001
http://indianexpress.com/article/world/world-others/hsbc-sheltered-murky-cash-linked-to-dictators-arms-dealers/
And many many other newspapers and media outlets throughout the world.0 -
1. MacShane required extra money to fund his european wanderings. He got that from the expense frauds that he was convicted of.rcs1000 said:
Ummm: if McShane had been - say - a big tennis fan, would you be posting about how distracted he was by his love of tennis?TCPoliticalBetting said:
Yes a man distracted by his love for the EC.nigel4england said:
The delightful MacShane, too busy producing bogus invoices to notice 1,400 children being raped on his patch.MikeK said:
I posted exactly this hours ago. I guess it needs Andrew Neil name to make PBers take notice.Tykejohnno said:
Andrew Neil ✔ @afneil
Rotherham -- it gets worse
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/exclusive-mp-and-home-office-failed-to-act-on-rotherham-grooming-11-years-ago-1-6913834 …
Vote Labour, get scum like MacShane
Rotherham was a failure of political correctness, a failure of the Labour council, a failure of good people to speak up, a failure of elected representatives to listen.
This is one of the few things that was truly not a failure of the EU/EC.
2. MacShane clearly focused his main attention on the EC when in Parliament or away visiting europe. He would gladly write articles against eurosceptics or speak up in any debate on that subject. Or even fly off on european meetings even after he was not the Europe Minister.
So whilst engaged in all these things he was distracted by the EC and overlooked the cesspit of abuse going on in his constituency.
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TCPB/Danny565 An economically and socially liberal party is one in which Tony Blair, Peter Mandelson, Alan Milburn, Nick Clegg, Danny Alexander, David Laws, George Osborne, Michael Portillo and Ed Vaizey would all feel at home. However, it would be unlikely to get more than 10-15% of the vote, which is why it will never happen unless we get PR!0
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If Bermuda was given the right of representation to parliament then it would have been a different matter.Scott_P said:
Did they also prompt him to instigate a diplomatic incident?Speedy said:Ed Miliband's attack on offshore tax havens wasn't an accident, someone from the Guardian must have informed him what was coming.
It's fair game during a general election since they don't have a seat.0 -
I'm sorry, that is a ridiculous stretch.TCPoliticalBetting said:
1. MacShane required extra money to fund his european wanderings. He got that from the expense frauds that he was convicted of.rcs1000 said:
Ummm: if McShane had been - say - a big tennis fan, would you be posting about how distracted he was by his love of tennis?TCPoliticalBetting said:
Yes a man distracted by his love for the EC.nigel4england said:
The delightful MacShane, too busy producing bogus invoices to notice 1,400 children being raped on his patch.MikeK said:
I posted exactly this hours ago. I guess it needs Andrew Neil name to make PBers take notice.Tykejohnno said:
Andrew Neil ✔ @afneil
Rotherham -- it gets worse
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/exclusive-mp-and-home-office-failed-to-act-on-rotherham-grooming-11-years-ago-1-6913834 …
Vote Labour, get scum like MacShane
Rotherham was a failure of political correctness, a failure of the Labour council, a failure of good people to speak up, a failure of elected representatives to listen.
This is one of the few things that was truly not a failure of the EU/EC.
2. MacShane clearly focused his main attention on the EC when in Parliament or away visiting europe. He would gladly write articles against eurosceptics or speak up in any debate on that subject. Or even fly off on european meetings even after he was not the Europe Minister.
So whilst engaged in all these things he was distracted by the EC and overlooked the cesspit of abuse going on in his constituency.
If he'd been defence minister, would you have blamed the army?
In any case, Rotherham was a failure on so many levels. It wasn't just the result (however pathetic be was ) of one mp being distracted.
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May I suggest a name for it?HYUFD said:TCPB/Danny565 An economically and socially liberal party is one in which Tony Blair, Peter Mandelson, Alan Milburn, Nick Clegg, Danny Alexander, David Laws, George Osborne, Michael Portillo and Ed Vaizey would all feel at home. However, it would be unlikely to get more than 10-15% of the vote, which is why it will never happen unless we get PR!
"Chernobyl Democrats"
Or
"Irwin Allen Alliance"0 -
Really? I don't think most of those would be interested in a properly liberal state, ie you can do wtf you like as long as it doesn't harm others.HYUFD said:TCPB/Danny565 An economically and socially liberal party is one in which Tony Blair, Peter Mandelson, Alan Milburn, Nick Clegg, Danny Alexander, David Laws, George Osborne, Michael Portillo and Ed Vaizey would all feel at home. However, it would be unlikely to get more than 10-15% of the vote, which is why it will never happen unless we get PR!
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