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From Russia with love – politicalbetting.com

Asked who they think party leaders sympathise with more – majorities say that Badenoch & Starmer sympathise with Ukraine and v.few say Russia. Many don't know on Polanski. But Farage stands out 26% think he sympathises more with Ukraine, only slightly fewer, 21% think he sympathises more with Russia

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  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,871
    edited December 5
    Can’t see any Bond pun.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,117
    boulay said:

    Can’t see any Russian pun.

    No pun was advertised, I did mention this header contains a subtle James Bond reference.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,251
    Double 0 out of ten for this one.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,001
    Ed Davey left off the question?
    More in Common are going to get a battering on bluesky.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 26,991
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    boulay said:

    Can’t see any Russian pun.

    No pun was advertised, I did mention this header contains a subtle James Bond reference.
    It was subtle. For a given definition of "subtle". From a certain point of view. :)
  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,871
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    boulay said:

    Can’t see any Russian pun.

    No pun was advertised, I did mention this header contains a subtle James Bond reference.
    My brain has just given up, apologies.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,549
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    boulay said:

    Can’t see any Russian pun.

    No pun was advertised, I did mention this header contains a subtle James Bond reference.
    Is "with" a reference to The Man with the Golden Gun? Like Farage has a gun, but it's going to go off at him. I can't work out anything else.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,580
    edited December 5
    Only 20 minutes until the debut of the Liz Truss show.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftxk3jJuYD0

    She's also been doing the rounds on US TV:

    https://x.com/MorningsMaria/status/1996969571446587888

    Former United Kingdom Prime Minister Liz Truss joins 'Mornings with Maria' to warn that Europe’s energy failures, socialist economic policies and weak defense spending are empowering Vladimir Putin and accelerating Britain’s economic decline
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788
    Dopermean said:

    Ed Davey left off the question?
    More in Common are going to get a battering on bluesky.

    A bit like the sub postmasters under the coalition.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 48,300
    williamglenn said:

    Only 20 minutes until the debut of the Liz Truss show.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftxk3jJuYD0

    It clashes with the WC draw which I'd normally watch but can't this time because it's going to feature Donald Trump dancing to YMCA. So Liz it is.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,251
    williamglenn said:

    Only 20 minutes until the debut of the Liz Truss show.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftxk3jJuYD0

    She's also been doing the rounds on US TV:

    https://x.com/MorningsMaria/status/1996969571446587888

    Former United Kingdom Prime Minister Liz Truss joins 'Mornings with Maria' to warn that Europe’s energy failures, socialist economic policies and weak defense spending are empowering Vladimir Putin and accelerating Britain’s economic decline

    So what 45mins or so until it's cancelled?
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788
    williamglenn said:

    Only 20 minutes until the debut of the Liz Truss show.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftxk3jJuYD0

    She's also been doing the rounds on US TV:

    https://x.com/MorningsMaria/status/1996969571446587888

    Former United Kingdom Prime Minister Liz Truss joins 'Mornings with Maria' to warn that Europe’s energy failures, socialist economic policies and weak defense spending are empowering Vladimir Putin and accelerating Britain’s economic decline

    I’m sure Led By Donkeys have the tissues to hand.
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,654
    williamglenn said:

    Only 20 minutes until the debut of the Liz Truss show.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftxk3jJuYD0

    She's also been doing the rounds on US TV:

    https://x.com/MorningsMaria/status/1996969571446587888

    Former United Kingdom Prime Minister Liz Truss joins 'Mornings with Maria' to warn that Europe’s energy failures, socialist economic policies and weak defense spending are empowering Vladimir Putin and accelerating Britain’s economic decline

    Let-us all watch that.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,169
    CatMan said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    boulay said:

    Can’t see any Russian pun.

    No pun was advertised, I did mention this header contains a subtle James Bond reference.
    Is "with" a reference to The Man with the Golden Gun? Like Farage has a gun, but it's going to go off at him. I can't work out anything else.
    I was going for the man with the golden pun.

    But there wasn't one.
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788
    Nigelb said:

    CatMan said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    boulay said:

    Can’t see any Russian pun.

    No pun was advertised, I did mention this header contains a subtle James Bond reference.
    Is "with" a reference to The Man with the Golden Gun? Like Farage has a gun, but it's going to go off at him. I can't work out anything else.
    I was going for the man with the golden pun.

    But there wasn't one.
    He has a powerful weapon 😳
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,984
    The problem is that quite a section of the UK public have been warped by Russian misinformation.
    They tend to be low information voters.
    With four, five or even six other Parties it won't take much for a minority of 30% of the vote. to win power.
    34% just won a 180 majority.
    FPTP is creaking.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,001
    Taz said:

    Dopermean said:

    Ed Davey left off the question?
    More in Common are going to get a battering on bluesky.

    A bit like the sub postmasters under the coalition.
    Also how can "both" be an option for the question "which do they sympathise with more"?
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788
    Dopermean said:

    Taz said:

    Dopermean said:

    Ed Davey left off the question?
    More in Common are going to get a battering on bluesky.

    A bit like the sub postmasters under the coalition.
    Also how can "both" be an option for the question "which do they sympathise with more"?
    Indeed. It’s a binary question.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,713
    dixiedean said:

    The problem is that quite a section of the UK public have been warped by Russian misinformation.
    They tend to be low information voters.
    With four, five or even six other Parties it won't take much for a minority of 30% of the vote. to win power.
    34% just won a 180 majority.
    FPTP is creaking.

    Why don't Labour change the voting system then?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,169
    "Rubio’s name is never mentioned in the transcript, according to a source familiar with it. However, Witkoff and Kushner are cited repeatedly by several European leaders including Macron, Merz, Stubb, Rutte and Meloni, underscoring the centrality of the two US developers to these negotiations."
    https://x.com/michaeldweiss/status/1996970090139402491

    So the US side of negotiations with Russia are being exclusively conducted by real estate grifters.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,251
    Nigelb said:

    Ajax latest...

    "A design flaw means the vehicle is unable to reverse over obstacles more than 20cm (7.8 inches) high"

    Makes a change from the Italian five reverse gears jokes, I guess.

    If we spend another £ on this piece of shit, we're idiots.

    Scavenge what kit we can from It, and bin the rest for scrap.

    We really should be able to make an armoured bus. The MoD should look at whatever TfL use in south London - downgrade the armour a bit and I'm sure it'd be good.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 84,169
    Andy_JS said:

    dixiedean said:

    The problem is that quite a section of the UK public have been warped by Russian misinformation.
    They tend to be low information voters.
    With four, five or even six other Parties it won't take much for a minority of 30% of the vote. to win power.
    34% just won a 180 majority.
    FPTP is creaking.

    Why don't Labour change the voting system then?
    They should.

    Starmer is a bit frit, though.
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788
    edited December 5
    dixiedean said:

    The problem is that quite a section of the UK public have been warped by Russian misinformation.
    They tend to be low information voters.
    With four, five or even six other Parties it won't take much for a minority of 30% of the vote. to win power.
    34% just won a 180 majority.
    FPTP is creaking.

    Oh no.

    How awful.

    Low information voters turned by Russian misinformation. They may be low information but, at least, they’re not Everton fans. 👍

    Russian misinformation turning voters. Reds under the bed. Got to be true. It’s on PB.

    I bet they all watch daytime TV.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,029
    Andy_JS said:

    dixiedean said:

    The problem is that quite a section of the UK public have been warped by Russian misinformation.
    They tend to be low information voters.
    With four, five or even six other Parties it won't take much for a minority of 30% of the vote. to win power.
    34% just won a 180 majority.
    FPTP is creaking.

    Why don't Labour change the voting system then?
    Because they won a 180 majority on 34% of the vote?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,194
    From last thread:


    If you need a message of hope and a story of heartening innovation to end your week in these bleak times, then this it:


    Over a pint in Oxford, we may have stumbled upon the holy grail of agriculture
    George Monbiot


    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/dec/05/agriculture-revolution-soil-farming-earth-rover-program
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 68,463
    Someone beating Reform if it can be believed

    https://x.com/i/status/1996981936149934083
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,029
    kinabalu said:

    williamglenn said:

    Only 20 minutes until the debut of the Liz Truss show.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftxk3jJuYD0

    It clashes with the WC draw which I'd normally watch but can't this time because it's going to feature Donald Trump dancing to YMCA. So Liz it is.
    Who needs Strictly when we have the Don?
  • isamisam Posts: 43,180
    edited December 5
    Con-Lab crossover approaching

    The Conservatives are polling at 20% for the first time since the Local Elections - with Reform and the LDs at recent lows.

    ➡️ RFM: 29.3% (Lowest since Jul)
    🌹 LAB: 20.5%
    🌳 CON: 20.0% (Highest Since Apr)
    🔶 LDM: 12.5% (Lowest Since Feb)
    🌍 GRN: 12.2%

    electionmaps.uk/polling/vi




    https://x.com/electionmapsuk/status/1996939225749406150?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,082
    Omnium said:

    Nigelb said:

    Ajax latest...

    "A design flaw means the vehicle is unable to reverse over obstacles more than 20cm (7.8 inches) high"

    Makes a change from the Italian five reverse gears jokes, I guess.

    If we spend another £ on this piece of shit, we're idiots.

    Scavenge what kit we can from It, and bin the rest for scrap.

    We really should be able to make an armoured bus. The MoD should look at whatever TfL use in south London - downgrade the armour a bit and I'm sure it'd be good.
    I could get some guys together and build a bunch of these - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_VIII_tank?
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788
    Nigelb said:

    Andy_JS said:

    dixiedean said:

    The problem is that quite a section of the UK public have been warped by Russian misinformation.
    They tend to be low information voters.
    With four, five or even six other Parties it won't take much for a minority of 30% of the vote. to win power.
    34% just won a 180 majority.
    FPTP is creaking.

    Why don't Labour change the voting system then?
    They should.

    Starmer is a bit frit, though.
    Why should they change it ? Because the electoral map is going against them ?

    Labour has never really been pro replacing FPTP

    What evidence do you have Starmer is ‘Fritz’ ? Not believing in something is hardly being ‘Fritz’.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,194
    edited December 5
    Nigelb said:

    "Rubio’s name is never mentioned in the transcript, according to a source familiar with it. However, Witkoff and Kushner are cited repeatedly by several European leaders including Macron, Merz, Stubb, Rutte and Meloni, underscoring the centrality of the two US developers to these negotiations."
    https://x.com/michaeldweiss/status/1996970090139402491

    So the US side of negotiations with Russia are being exclusively conducted by real estate grifters.

    As Friedman has said in NY Times this week, the US is failing to get anywhere precisely because their side think this is just a glorified real estate deal.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,713
    "Lunch with the FT

    Robert Jenrick: ‘I’m unashamedly provincial in my attitudes’

    https://www.ft.com
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788
    Malmesbury said:

    Omnium said:

    Nigelb said:

    Ajax latest...

    "A design flaw means the vehicle is unable to reverse over obstacles more than 20cm (7.8 inches) high"

    Makes a change from the Italian five reverse gears jokes, I guess.

    If we spend another £ on this piece of shit, we're idiots.

    Scavenge what kit we can from It, and bin the rest for scrap.

    We really should be able to make an armoured bus. The MoD should look at whatever TfL use in south London - downgrade the armour a bit and I'm sure it'd be good.
    I could get some guys together and build a bunch of these - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_VIII_tank?
    Get @Dura_Ace on board and another couple from here

    PB’s version of the A team.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,194
    edited December 5
    World Cup draw has started. Or at least the ceremony has.

    Apparently Trump will be given 2mins to speak after getting a peace prize.

    Doubt it will be only two minutes to be honest.

  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788
    rottenborough said:

    World Cup draw has started. Or at least the ceremony has.

    Apparently Trump will be given 2mins to speak after getting a peace prize.

    Doubt it will be only two minutes to be honest.

    I’m watching The Chase.

    I’m interested in who the home nations draw.

    Listening to that rasclart is another story.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,029
    rottenborough said:

    World Cup draw has started. Or at least the ceremony has.

    Apparently Trump will be given 2mins to speak after getting a peace prize.

    Doubt it will be only two minutes to be honest.

    Some say they will be the greatest two minutes kickball has ever seen.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 12,251
    Malmesbury said:

    Omnium said:

    Nigelb said:

    Ajax latest...

    "A design flaw means the vehicle is unable to reverse over obstacles more than 20cm (7.8 inches) high"

    Makes a change from the Italian five reverse gears jokes, I guess.

    If we spend another £ on this piece of shit, we're idiots.

    Scavenge what kit we can from It, and bin the rest for scrap.

    We really should be able to make an armoured bus. The MoD should look at whatever TfL use in south London - downgrade the armour a bit and I'm sure it'd be good.
    I could get some guys together and build a bunch of these - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_VIII_tank?
    Don't be ridiculous, That'd never manage day routes in North London, let alone be a worthy night bus in the South.

  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,896
    Andy_JS said:

    "Lunch with the FT

    Robert Jenrick: ‘I’m unashamedly provincial in my attitudes’

    https://www.ft.com

    I never knew provincial and opportunistic were synonyms.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 6,709
    rottenborough said:

    World Cup draw has started. Or at least the ceremony has.

    Apparently Trump will be given 2mins to speak after getting a peace prize.

    Doubt it will be only two minutes to be honest.

    I won’t be watching as I might vomit .

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,194
    Taz said:

    rottenborough said:

    World Cup draw has started. Or at least the ceremony has.

    Apparently Trump will be given 2mins to speak after getting a peace prize.

    Doubt it will be only two minutes to be honest.

    I’m watching The Chase.

    I’m interested in who the home nations draw.

    Listening to that rasclart is another story.
    So far it is making Eurovision look high brow.

  • MattWMattW Posts: 31,111
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Someone beating Reform if it can be believed

    https://x.com/i/status/1996981936149934083

    Perhaps Rupert has caught some more illegal Motor Neurone Disease Charity migrants crossing the channel to Great Yarmouth, and is more popular :smile: .
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788
    rottenborough said:

    Taz said:

    rottenborough said:

    World Cup draw has started. Or at least the ceremony has.

    Apparently Trump will be given 2mins to speak after getting a peace prize.

    Doubt it will be only two minutes to be honest.

    I’m watching The Chase.

    I’m interested in who the home nations draw.

    Listening to that rasclart is another story.
    So far it is making Eurovision look high brow.

    Oh dear. Sounds awful. At least The Chase is fun.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,194
    Trump gets Peace Prize from FIFA.

    I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,654
    If this FIFA peace prize award could be a sketch on a satirical comedy show and they wouldn't need to change a word other than adding a laugh track.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 59,082
    Omnium said:

    Malmesbury said:

    Omnium said:

    Nigelb said:

    Ajax latest...

    "A design flaw means the vehicle is unable to reverse over obstacles more than 20cm (7.8 inches) high"

    Makes a change from the Italian five reverse gears jokes, I guess.

    If we spend another £ on this piece of shit, we're idiots.

    Scavenge what kit we can from It, and bin the rest for scrap.

    We really should be able to make an armoured bus. The MoD should look at whatever TfL use in south London - downgrade the armour a bit and I'm sure it'd be good.
    I could get some guys together and build a bunch of these - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_VIII_tank?
    Don't be ridiculous, That'd never manage day routes in North London, let alone be a worthy night bus in the South.

    It can managed 5m of tench crossing - even London roads aren't that bad.

    The turns on tarmac will be much easier than on soft ground - bit poor on length for good turning on soft ground.

    All round machine gun coverage (if you count the deflector plate) - good for the fruitier areas of the metropolis.

    OK, conditions inside are a tad worse than the Piccadilly line in high summer. But then again, everyone will be warm.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,194
    Ratters said:

    If this FIFA peace prize award could be a sketch on a satirical comedy show and they wouldn't need to change a word other than adding a laugh track.

    Or vomit track.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,057
    Is this the so-called FIFA Piss prize?

  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 68,463
    rottenborough said:

    Trump gets Peace Prize from FIFA.

    I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.

    FIFA have always been a joke - a bad one
  • TresTres Posts: 3,256
    gaudy shite what a fucking world we live in
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,194
    Daveyboy1961 said:

    Is this the so-called FIFA Piss prize?

    It's the You're Never Gonna Get the Noble Prize.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,057
    rottenborough said:

    Daveyboy1961 said:

    Is this the so-called FIFA Piss prize?

    It's the You're Never Gonna Get the Noble Prize.
    I must remember to get some chocolate medals to put on our tree this year
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,194
    Still got plasters on his hand smothered in make-up.

  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 68,463
    This is unwatchable fawning by FIFA

    Embarrassing and pathetic
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,057
    rottenborough said:

    Trump gets Peace Prize from FIFA.

    I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.

    stocked and shunned?
  • TresTres Posts: 3,256
    gonna complain to the bbc they showing fellatio before the watershed
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,194
    "We have saved millions of lives" claims Trump.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,194
    Tres said:

    gonna complain to the bbc they showing fellatio before the watershed

    LOL.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,194
    williamglenn said:

    rottenborough said:

    Trump gets Peace Prize from FIFA.

    I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.

    Why is FIFA issuing a peace prize? Wouldn't a corruption prize have be more meaningful from them?
    They claim they will award one every year.

    I guess that will be true until November 2028.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 69,194
    Wow. He stuck to the two minutes.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,895
    williamglenn said:

    rottenborough said:

    Trump gets Peace Prize from FIFA.

    I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.

    Why is FIFA issuing a peace prize? Wouldn't a corruption prize have be more meaningful from them?
    It's perfect.

    The Donald is happy because he won a prize that neither Obama nor Biden won.

    Everyone else in the world ought to be amused because of the credibility of a FIFA Peace Prize.

    Most people would be embarrassed by giving DJT a prize, but FIFA can't be embarrassed, so it's a plan with no losers.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,239
    Ratters said:

    If this FIFA peace prize award could be a sketch on a satirical comedy show and they wouldn't need to change a word other than adding a laugh track.

    There's a very small amount of me that has to admire FIFA's audacity to play to Trump's egocentric shallowness so blatantly.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,029
    rottenborough said:

    williamglenn said:

    rottenborough said:

    Trump gets Peace Prize from FIFA.

    I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.

    Why is FIFA issuing a peace prize? Wouldn't a corruption prize have be more meaningful from them?
    They claim they will award one every year.

    I guess that will be true until November 2028.

    Putin, Xi, Salman all need to be put in the list.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,630
    rottenborough said:

    Trump gets Peace Prize from FIFA.

    I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.

    Absolutely shameful nonsense from Infantino. The only thing he has achieved running FIFA is making people a little wistful for the common or garden corruption of Blatter.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,029
    Daveyboy1961 said:

    rottenborough said:

    Trump gets Peace Prize from FIFA.

    I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.

    stocked and shunned?
    Shaken not stirred, surely?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 131,966
    The fact nearly a quarter of voters think Farage sides with Putin's Russia in its conflict with Ukraine, far more than think any other main UK party leader sympathises with the Russians, gives clear ground for tactical voting to beat Reform. Though Farage would state the median voter thinks he is neutral on the Russia and Ukraine conflict
  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,871
    rottenborough said:

    williamglenn said:

    rottenborough said:

    Trump gets Peace Prize from FIFA.

    I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.

    Why is FIFA issuing a peace prize? Wouldn't a corruption prize have be more meaningful from them?
    They claim they will award one every year.

    I guess that will be true until November 2028.

    You should see who is chair of the committee for the future - a chap from Myanmar who is under multiple sanctions including by the US.

    Truly a football person.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/dec/04/revealed-myanmar-junta-crony-given-key-role-behind-fifa-peace-prize
  • SonofContrarianSonofContrarian Posts: 241
    rottenborough said:

    "We have saved millions of lives" claims Trump.

    I'm sure that'll be true..if Ukraine can just accept his latest real estate deal..💩
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,654
    williamglenn said:

    rottenborough said:

    Trump gets Peace Prize from FIFA.

    I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.

    Why is FIFA issuing a peace prize? Wouldn't a corruption prize be more meaningful from them?
    I thought the FIFA corruption prize was the hosting of the world cup?
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,029
    edited December 5
    glw said:

    rottenborough said:

    Trump gets Peace Prize from FIFA.

    I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.

    Absolutely shameful nonsense from Infantino. The only thing he has achieved running FIFA is making people a little wistful for the common or garden corruption of Blatter.
    On track to double FIFA revenue. Pathetic fawning to the global broligarchs works in terms of $$$$$$.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,239
    HYUFD said:

    The fact nearly a quarter of voters think Farage sides with Putin's Russia in its conflict with Ukraine, far more than think any other main UK party leader sympathises with the Russians, gives clear ground for tactical voting to beat Reform. Though Farage would state the median voter thinks he is neutral on the Russia and Ukraine conflict

    You can't state that from that graph; the median voter could equally just not know.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,855
    "All time season ticket ratings"???

    He's so obsessed with TV ratings.
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    This is unwatchable fawning by FIFA

    Embarrassing and pathetic

    Well don’t watch it then,

    I’m watching The Chase.

    The Sinnerman dicked them with 1 second to go.

    Lovely stuff

    For them the chase is over.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,057
    I hate to say this, but in this little skit Trump looks vaguely human.

  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 17,401
    Benpointer said:

    HYUFD said:

    The fact nearly a quarter of voters think Farage sides with Putin's Russia in its conflict with Ukraine, far more than think any other main UK party leader sympathises with the Russians, gives clear ground for tactical voting to beat Reform. Though Farage would state the median voter thinks he is neutral on the Russia and Ukraine conflict

    You can't state that from that graph; the median voter could equally just not know.
    That is a lot of voters still to find out how much cozying up to Moscow Farage and his Reform comrades have got up to over the years.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 36,174
    boulay said:

    rottenborough said:

    williamglenn said:

    rottenborough said:

    Trump gets Peace Prize from FIFA.

    I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.

    Why is FIFA issuing a peace prize? Wouldn't a corruption prize have be more meaningful from them?
    They claim they will award one every year.

    I guess that will be true until November 2028.

    You should see who is chair of the committee for the future - a chap from Myanmar who is under multiple sanctions including by the US.

    Truly a football person.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/dec/04/revealed-myanmar-junta-crony-given-key-role-behind-fifa-peace-prize
    I didn’t realise they played football in Myanmar. Something new every day here etc.
  • SirNorfolkPassmoreSirNorfolkPassmore Posts: 7,540
    Why do these ludicrous draws take so bloody long?

    Saint and Greavsie would've had it done and dusted three quarters of an hour ago, and been on their third pint by now at the nearest pub.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 38,713
    "Donald Trump receives inaugural Fifa Peace Prize"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/c8jw9de2e4wt
  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,871
    OldKingCole said:

    boulay said:

    rottenborough said:

    williamglenn said:

    rottenborough said:

    Trump gets Peace Prize from FIFA.

    I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.

    Why is FIFA issuing a peace prize? Wouldn't a corruption prize have be more meaningful from them?
    They claim they will award one every year.

    I guess that will be true until November 2028.

    You should see who is chair of the committee for the future - a chap from Myanmar who is under multiple sanctions including by the US.

    Truly a football person.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/dec/04/revealed-myanmar-junta-crony-given-key-role-behind-fifa-peace-prize
    I didn’t realise they played football in Myanmar. Something new every day here etc.
    We should have kept control of the game - we invented it (despite the BS when they were sucking up to China and made some spurious attempt to say it was invented in China thousands of years ago). We should have stayed as guardians of the global game and not allowed yet another global sports kleptocracy to bastardise it.

    Let’s pick up our ball and go home - it’s our game. Not infantino’s piggy bank.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,855
    Re the poll - I'm surprised the figures for Ukraine are so low for Starmer and Badenoch.

    How could anyone think they are not supporting Ukraine more (excluding a few Don't Knows who haven't heard of Keir or Kemi).
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788
    Has the draw started yet ?

    I remember many years ago going for a Xmas night out in Brum, having a pizza, and a World Cup being drawn. It was over quite quickly
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,029
    MikeL said:

    Re the poll - I'm surprised the figures for Ukraine are so low for Starmer and Badenoch.

    How could anyone think they are not supporting Ukraine more (excluding a few Don't Knows who haven't heard of Keir or Kemi).

    A significant percentage answer any polling question in terms of do I like/dislike the named person rather than the question asked.
    A smaller percentage refuse to say don't know when they don't know so just guess.
  • BurgessianBurgessian Posts: 3,321
    The Guardian's deep-dive into Nige's schooldays continues.

    "Bankole is one of 28 school contemporaries of Farage’s at Dulwich college, a public school in south-east London, who claim to have witnessed deeply offensive racist or antisemitic behaviour by Farage."

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/dec/05/nigel-farage-former-dulwich-college-pupil-alleges-said-thats-the-way-back-to-africa

    He would have made a memorable character in a George MacDonald Fraser novel. Right up there with Flashman.
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788
    Is there a report from the centrist Dad obsessives on the Truss video ?

    She seems to occupy a few people’s minds here rent free.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,029
    Taz said:

    Is there a report from the centrist Dad obsessives on the Truss video ?

    She seems to occupy a few people’s minds here rent free.

    She is trying too hard to romaine in the public eye.
  • AbandonedHopeAbandonedHope Posts: 173
    I hope they get a move on. The One Show starts at 7pm…
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 26,029
    AbandonedHope said:

    I hope they get a move on. The One Show starts at 7pm…

    Just wait til the tournament, when the audience will be hoping it will just be 10 minute heat breaks once each half rather than 2 hours off in the middle of Ecuador v Curacao to avoid the lightning.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 36,239
    With all due respect to Rio, was David Beckham already booked elsewhere?
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,896
    They should've presented the peace prize jointly to Sheinbaum and Carney, just for the lolz.
  • SirNorfolkPassmoreSirNorfolkPassmore Posts: 7,540
    Taz said:

    Has the draw started yet ?

    I remember many years ago going for a Xmas night out in Brum, having a pizza, and a World Cup being drawn. It was over quite quickly

    Well, never mind. I expect you were just keen to get the job done between having the pizza and the draw starting.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 299
    Taz said:

    Has the draw started yet ?

    I remember many years ago going for a Xmas night out in Brum, having a pizza, and a World Cup being drawn. It was over quite quickly

    Just been watching part of the 94 world cup draw where Robin Williams rips Sepp blatter. Well worth a look
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,277
    What's all.tjis stuff about a BBC stitch up.with a migrant on Question Time??
  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788
    SirNorfolkPassmore said:

    Taz said:

    Has the draw started yet ?

    I remember many years ago going for a Xmas night out in Brum, having a pizza, and a World Cup being drawn. It was over quite quickly

    Well, never mind. I expect you were just keen to get the job done between having the pizza and the draw starting.
    IIRC that was before the 98 World Cup and I was only bothered about the free pizza and beer TBH.

  • TazTaz Posts: 22,788
    noneoftheabove said:

    Taz said:

    Is there a report from the centrist Dad obsessives on the Truss video ?

    She seems to occupy a few people’s minds here rent free.

    She is trying too hard to romaine in the public eye.
    I remember the former Gloucestershire cricket, Paul Romaines, whose witty nickname was. ‘Human’
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,984
    AbandonedHope said:

    I hope they get a move on. The One Show starts at 7pm…

    The tournament starts in June.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 125,117
    I'd sooner eat a pizza with pineapple on it than have to watch his draw again.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,896
    Curacao has been drawn with Vodka, Whisky and German Smoked Beer in a true group of death.
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