Starmer's (and by extension Labour's) schtick was supposed to be "boring competence". Boring incompetence isn't what the script requires.
Right now I'd take it. Staggering incompetence isn't doing it for me. This budget IT nonsense really is the final straw. UK plc is going to pay a real penalty for that next week.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Why is everyone now talking about Trump blowing Clinton???
Well, it's there in the files. It's a joke I think, Epstein is taking the piss out of the whole Putin/Trump thing given it's from 2018.
Obviously redditors are enjoying reworking the Lewinsky scandal around it. "There are two Presidents in this picture" - a smiling Clinton sitting behind the Resolute desk.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Also with increases in the NMW and Employers NI they have literally priced young people out of jobs. Moronic is a somewhat generous term. When the Tories increased the NMW there was a shortage of labour and a lot of unfilled posts. That is no longer the position but hey, economics eh? Boring. Not nearly as important as Labour MPs feeling good about themselves.
Posters on here have said they sound these Chinese machines love to phone home. I have a pretty certain its been reported before that every design that goes into the machine has in the past been sent back.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
Posters on here have said they sound these Chinese machines love to phone home. I have a pretty certain its been reported before that every design that goes into the machine has in the past been sent back.
These kind of programs can be useful. Obviously everyone who approved this will have been sacked for gross incompetence. Obviously.
Although my depression continues to fog my brain, I am cheered by the grotesque chaos of a Labour government, a LABOUR government hiring special advisors to scuttle round the Commons handing out redundancy notices to its own workers.
The Budget is sunk and there's still a week and a half before they unveil it. McSweeney will go, Reeves surely must go, I struggle to see how Starmer doesn't go.
The LabCon in full effect. Labour are the Tories, Labour are the Tories, naah naah naah naah etc
Marvellous
Good morning
I understand your cynicism, but for me there is a real fear that the damage Starmer and Reeves are inflicting on our county is far worse than Truss/ Kwarteng as they were booted out after a few weeks, whereas this pair together with the idiotic behaviour of their back benches refusing cutting spending is taking us into a huge economic crisis
The answer is not Reform or the Greens, but a centrist government that is needed is as far away as ever
Despair is very real
Rose-tinted memory. Starmer's Labour have been thoroughly inept but not a patch on the wilful self-destruct of Truss.
Do you have any stats to illustrate that?
They fell in 49 days and the bond markets freaked out with some immediacy. If you want to add statistical evidence to the bond market point you can look for yourself.
Oh, and Starmer didn't kill the Queen.
Complete BS in other words.
Starmer and Reeves' embrace of the 'crashed the economy' narrative on Truss has already begun to sink its fangs into their generous behinds, and that will not stop until what little is left of their economic reputations lies in smouldering ruins.
It took less than a month for Truss's premiership to unravel, a month punctuated by the worst budget in parliamentary history.
Three of you have said this now - that Truss's rapid defenestration constitutes some sort of proof that she 'crashed the economy', and that her mismanagement of it was worse than Keir Starmer's. A ten year old would be embarrassed at that answer. The resignation of Truss when it became clear MPs would not support her was a political act. It doesn't provide a shred of evidence of anything she did or didn't do to the economy.
Yes, and I suspect many more on here would agree with me on this point at least.
Has it ever occurred to you that you might be a lone voice on this matter not because everyone else is thinking like a 10 year old, but because you are in fact... wrong?
No? Well keep dishing out the puerile insults if it makes you feel better.
I am sure they would - it seems very common for people on your side of the debate to rely on optics, politics, rhetoric and outrage to carry your arguments - I always think it indicates that the facts aren't on your side.
For me the worst is when Ed Davey, eg, starts proselytising about "our BBC". Just pathetic.
His Twitter feed is an embarrassment.
He complains about political pressure on the BBc while applying political pressure on t(e BBC over Reform, even browbeating journalists about it. I presume it goes down well with their focus groups.
Shame he, and his fellow MPs, don’t know what a woman is.
I am now being contacted by private security firms with warnings for my safety as a hot bed of threats against me are being fueled and egged on by the most powerful man in the world.
The man I supported and helped get elected.
Aggressive rhetoric attacking me has historically led to death threats and multiple convictions of men who were radicalized by the same type rhetoric being directed at me right now.
This time by the President of the United States.
As a woman I take threats from men seriously.
I now have a small understanding of the fear and pressure the women, who are victims of Jeffrey Epstein and his cabal, must feel.
As a Republican, who overwhelmingly votes for President Trump‘s bills and agenda, his aggression against me which also fuels the venomous nature of his radical internet trolls (many of whom are paid), this is completely shocking to everyone.
My phone is blowing up with constant amazing support. I’m so thankful!
The Political Industrial Complex and the toxic violent nature of American politics must end.
Our country is worth saving and it can only be done if we pull together and save ourselves.
For me the worst is when Ed Davey, eg, starts proselytising about "our BBC". Just pathetic.
His Twitter feed is an embarrassment.
He complains about political pressure on the BBc while applying political pressure on t(e BBC over Reform, even browbeating journalists about it. I presume it goes down well with their focus groups.
Shame he, and his fellow MPs, don’t know what a woman is.
He's complaining because sticking the fukers on constantly is because of political pressure from Gibb and the rest of the goon squad who are pulling the levers.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
Twin A got a degree apprenticeship Chances are twin B will be emigrating to Iceland to run the Scout centre over the summer and then lead Geography field trips for evermore..
The latter is because there are zero jobs round here at the moment so it's best to just escape.
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Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
Twin A got a degree apprenticeship Chances are twin B will be emigrating to Iceland to run the Scout centre over the summer and then lead Geography field trips for evermore..
The latter is because there are zero jobs round here at the moment so it's best to just escape.
Eldest grandson, early 30's is a Deputy Head of a small school. The others of those in UK, are scratching around. What is almost as worrying is that there seem to be fewer young people around than ever before. I'm pushing towards 90, so shouldn't have a problem. However, who is going to pay for my son's pension?
For me the worst is when Ed Davey, eg, starts proselytising about "our BBC". Just pathetic.
His Twitter feed is an embarrassment.
He complains about political pressure on the BBc while applying political pressure on t(e BBC over Reform, even browbeating journalists about it. I presume it goes down well with their focus groups.
Shame he, and his fellow MPs, don’t know what a woman is.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My eldest has a first class English degree, and after applying for hundreds of jobs is now on a Masters course to try and specialise. The jobs market barely exists for grads.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
I've just been reminded by Twix about the time Jeremy Bowen laid in a ditch in Ukraine, pretending he was under attack, while recording a report. A Ukrainian lady walking her dog stopped to check that he was ok
He really is just an aged Damien Day (Drop The Dead Donkey). Thank fuck we've had him as our man in the Middle East, faithfully reporting Hamas propaganda
For me the worst is when Ed Davey, eg, starts proselytising about "our BBC". Just pathetic.
His Twitter feed is an embarrassment.
He complains about political pressure on the BBc while applying political pressure on t(e BBC over Reform, even browbeating journalists about it. I presume it goes down well with their focus groups.
Shame he, and his fellow MPs, don’t know what a woman is.
He's complaining because sticking the fukers on constantly is because of political pressure from Gibb and the rest of the goon squad who are pulling the levers.
He’s a useless cycnical opportunist trying to ride a populist wave and he’s trying to apply political leverage to the BBC, something he does not like others doing.
The BBC will cover Reform (Fukers - grow up) as they are leading the polls and the Lib Dem’s are down around 11% and their latest brain fart is taxing the banks, who we need to be a driver of growth in the economy, to fund a VAT cut for hospitality. How long would that last. One or two years. Perhaps cut spending instead.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My eldest has a first class English degree, and after applying for hundreds of jobs is now on a Masters course to try and specialise. The jobs market barely exists for grads.
Assuming they are doing that in English it won't help them get a job - it's why twin B who has a masters in the Lakes is moving to Iceland
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My eldest has a first class English degree, and after applying for hundreds of jobs is now on a Masters course to try and specialise. The jobs market barely exists for grads.
A generation sold a lie. Get a degree, a passport to a great job and a great future.
Debt slaves for life.
AI and this govt destroying entry level,jobs.
I wish them all well and success but worry most will not get it.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My eldest has a first class English degree, and after applying for hundreds of jobs is now on a Masters course to try and specialise. The jobs market barely exists for grads.
Say it quietly... but is this AI coming along? I know people want to blame NICs/minimum wage but the examples here are not those significantly affected by that change.
I don't talk to the kind of people who make these decisions but there are definitely whispers that there won't be as many new grads coming in because the fear is they are a big waste of money. They aren't entirely wrong - some of the jobs I might have given some of our new grads are now done by AI and there is no point in wasting my time training them up. The optimal number of entry-level staff has dropped.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
It's awful isn't it. You and I want to come on here and boast about how well our grandchildren are doing, how proud they are making us. How they are making the worst;d a better place. But, with 20-somethings we can't. Our 30-something is doing OK. But he's got a horrendous mortgage.
For me the worst is when Ed Davey, eg, starts proselytising about "our BBC". Just pathetic.
His Twitter feed is an embarrassment.
He complains about political pressure on the BBc while applying political pressure on t(e BBC over Reform, even browbeating journalists about it. I presume it goes down well with their focus groups.
Shame he, and his fellow MPs, don’t know what a woman is.
He's complaining because sticking the fukers on constantly is because of political pressure from Gibb and the rest of the goon squad who are pulling the levers.
He’s a useless cycnical opportunist trying to ride a populist wave and he’s trying to apply political leverage to the BBC, something he does not like others doing.
The BBC will cover Reform (Fukers - grow up) as they are leading the polls and the Lib Dem’s are down around 11% and their latest brain fart is taxing the banks, who we need to be a driver of growth in the economy, to fund a VAT cut for hospitality. How long would that last. One or two years. Perhaps cut spending instead.
He also doesn’t know what a woman is.
Gibb is the bogey man but he has no influence over Sky who feature Farage and Reform because like all the media they are the new kids on the block and all the established parties are unpopular
Posters on here have said they sound these Chinese machines love to phone home. I have a pretty certain its been reported before that every design that goes into the machine has in the past been sent back.
Can't read the article, but it's probably a huge nothingburger. I'm assuming the manufacturer in question is Bambu Lab, since they're by far the largest printer manufacturer in China.
Many 3D printers will send your design files to a server run by the manufacturer - often in China - which then forwards the files to the printer. Bambu Lab machines do this by default as do many other brands, it's a common feature that can be very convenient if you're running a lot of printers in a farm.
But you can turn it off. It's perfectly possible to run the printer in LAN mode, where it receives the files directly from a PC. If you're printing anything remotely sensitive the printer should also be firewalled so it can't access anything outside the local network.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
It's awful isn't it. You and I want to come on here and boast about how well our grandchildren are doing, how proud they are making us. How they are making the worst;d a better place. But, with 20-somethings we can't. Our 30-something is doing OK. But he's got a horrendous mortgage.
The one bright spot is my granddaughter is in the process of joining HMRC in Leeds
The big sport story today is Wales v Japan this evening
They are ranked 12th and 13th in the world respectively. Only the top twelve get seeded in the World Cup draw in a few weeks time
If Japan win they move up to 12th, and Wales will face two seeded teams in their group
Go Eddie Jones!
They've put this on in the Wetherspoons in Swansea I'm currently in, but it's on S4C, so I basically have no idea what's going on
Make this man the Wales captain, he's got the essential qualification.
(Incidentally I'm amazed and delighted to see somebody thinks the Wales rugby team will still exist come the World Cup. Given how bad they are right now I have my misgivings.)
Posters on here have said they sound these Chinese machines love to phone home. I have a pretty certain its been reported before that every design that goes into the machine has in the past been sent back.
Can't read the article, but it's probably a huge nothingburger. I'm assuming the manufacturer in question is Bambu Lab, since they're by far the largest printer manufacturer in China.
Many 3D printers will send your design files to a server run by the manufacturer - often in China - which then forwards the files to the printer. Bambu Lab machines do this by default as do many other brands, it's a common feature that can be very convenient if you're running a lot of printers in a farm.
But you can turn it off. It's perfectly possible to run the printer in LAN mode, where it receives the files directly from a PC. If you're printing anything remotely sensitive the printer should also be firewalled so it can't access anything outside the local network.
I worked with a laser cutter that sent designs to a Chinese IP address. Block it and it stopped working.
So we hacked it to send DXFs of frames of a movie to China.
Posters on here have said they sound these Chinese machines love to phone home. I have a pretty certain its been reported before that every design that goes into the machine has in the past been sent back.
Can't read the article, but it's probably a huge nothingburger. I'm assuming the manufacturer in question is Bambu Lab, since they're by far the largest printer manufacturer in China.
Many 3D printers will send your design files to a server run by the manufacturer - often in China - which then forwards the files to the printer. Bambu Lab machines do this by default as do many other brands, it's a common feature that can be very convenient if you're running a lot of printers in a farm.
But you can turn it off. It's perfectly possible to run the printer in LAN mode, where it receives the files directly from a PC. If you're printing anything remotely sensitive the printer should also be firewalled so it can't access anything outside the local network.
I worked with a laser cutter that sent designs to a Chinese IP address. Block it and it stopped working.
So we hacked it to send DXFs of frames of a movie to China.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
I've the opposite problem. Nearly all of my son's friends have gone off and got jobs, normally starting at £100k+, but he is doing a BPhil for 2 more years at very considerable expense. So things could be worse!
Wes Streeting has been accused of taking a “chaotic and incoherent approach” to reforming the NHS which makes it unlikely the government will hit its own targets, according to a damning report by the Institute for Government (IfG).
The report praises elements of how the health secretary has managed the health service in his first year in office, including improving performance and staff retention in hospitals. Thepay settlement he reached with resident doctors last year avoided a winter plagued by NHS strikes
But it also criticises significant aspects of his performance, including the way he handled the abolition of NHS England and his lack of action to stem the exodus of senior GPs.
There’s quite a few Twitter stories about people who have just graduated in medicine or nursing, who are finding it very difficult to get training placements in the NHS.
There’s likely more to a lot of the stories, such as an unwillingness to move hundreds of miles, but on the face of it there seems to be a planning problem within the NHS.
We’ve been taking about this for *years* on PB.
To recap. To make a medic, you send them to university. Then you send them for x years of training in actual hospitals. This is proven methodology and works - same round the world.
The government caps the university places, then provides less than that in training places. In addition the system of allocating places to people in the NHS involves such fun as randomly sending them round the country.
So we educate far fewer medics than the NHS requires, train less and then treat them in a manner that a 19th cent mill owner would regard as a bit fruity.
So we make up the huge gap by importing medics.
Further, these numbers are increasing far slower than the NHS is growing. So our dependence on foreign labour is growing.
To add to the fun - remember the A level/uni fun during COVID. Some university classes were expanded by 25% because of that. Guess who is coming off the end of the production line, now? And no, they didn’t increase training places in the NHS.
So we have a shortage of training places in hospitals.
I do wonder if Streeting is letting this happen to put pressure on the treasury to release funds to increase the very expensive hospital training places. Or is that giving him too much credit?
I don’t think the second para is quite right. The government doesn’t cap Uni places. Training places in England are via health education England. And allocation of places is NOT random, but students are ranked and the best student gets the first pick etc.
How do countries which produce most of their own doctors do it? How do ones which produce a surplus? Their senior doctors cannot be spending all their time on training and none on their own work...
Cuba does or did. Was a way of spreading influence. Think I met one when visiting the West Bank but may be hallucinating.
Not just for influence. A little darker than that.
When they are sent abroad, the NGOs they work for pay them the going rate. Cuba then confiscates the vast majority of the paycheque to prop up its foreign currency reserves.
Posters on here have said they sound these Chinese machines love to phone home. I have a pretty certain its been reported before that every design that goes into the machine has in the past been sent back.
Can't read the article, but it's probably a huge nothingburger. I'm assuming the manufacturer in question is Bambu Lab, since they're by far the largest printer manufacturer in China.
Many 3D printers will send your design files to a server run by the manufacturer - often in China - which then forwards the files to the printer. Bambu Lab machines do this by default as do many other brands, it's a common feature that can be very convenient if you're running a lot of printers in a farm.
But you can turn it off. It's perfectly possible to run the printer in LAN mode, where it receives the files directly from a PC. If you're printing anything remotely sensitive the printer should also be firewalled so it can't access anything outside the local network.
I worked with a laser cutter that sent designs to a Chinese IP address. Block it and it stopped working.
So we hacked it to send DXFs of frames of a movie to China.
Nice
I've never heard of a 3D printer that will stop working if it's isolated from the internet, though. A lot of these machines end up in print farms and no farm operator would tolerate units that cease to print if the internet link goes down.
Posters on here have said they sound these Chinese machines love to phone home. I have a pretty certain its been reported before that every design that goes into the machine has in the past been sent back.
Can't read the article, but it's probably a huge nothingburger. I'm assuming the manufacturer in question is Bambu Lab, since they're by far the largest printer manufacturer in China.
Many 3D printers will send your design files to a server run by the manufacturer - often in China - which then forwards the files to the printer. Bambu Lab machines do this by default as do many other brands, it's a common feature that can be very convenient if you're running a lot of printers in a farm.
But you can turn it off. It's perfectly possible to run the printer in LAN mode, where it receives the files directly from a PC. If you're printing anything remotely sensitive the printer should also be firewalled so it can't access anything outside the local network.
I worked with a laser cutter that sent designs to a Chinese IP address. Block it and it stopped working.
So we hacked it to send DXFs of frames of a movie to China.
I trust they were all of Winnie the Pooh?
One of the younger people in the work shop supplied the video. I’m told that it was a somewhat surprising piece of cinema. Mind expanding even.
I found the (free software) that turned each frame into a DXF
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
It's awful isn't it. You and I want to come on here and boast about how well our grandchildren are doing, how proud they are making us. How they are making the worst;d a better place. But, with 20-somethings we can't. Our 30-something is doing OK. But he's got a horrendous mortgage.
My grandson is just about managing a spoon now but still very much prefers his fingers. Introduced him to mashed raspberries last night. It was hilarious as every now and again the tartness made him shiver but he loved them. They went everywhere but a fair number made the mouth.
For me the worst is when Ed Davey, eg, starts proselytising about "our BBC". Just pathetic.
His Twitter feed is an embarrassment.
He complains about political pressure on the BBc while applying political pressure on t(e BBC over Reform, even browbeating journalists about it. I presume it goes down well with their focus groups.
Shame he, and his fellow MPs, don’t know what a woman is.
He's complaining because sticking the fukers on constantly is because of political pressure from Gibb and the rest of the goon squad who are pulling the levers.
He’s a useless cycnical opportunist trying to ride a populist wave and he’s trying to apply political leverage to the BBC, something he does not like others doing.
The BBC will cover Reform (Fukers - grow up) as they are leading the polls and the Lib Dem’s are down around 11% and their latest brain fart is taxing the banks, who we need to be a driver of growth in the economy, to fund a VAT cut for hospitality. How long would that last. One or two years. Perhaps cut spending instead.
He also doesn’t know what a woman is.
Gibb is the bogey man but he has no influence over Sky who feature Farage and Reform because like all the media they are the new kids on the block and all the established parties are unpopular
This is why the Greens are rising as well
Yea and it is notable that the Greens are getting far more airtime and exposure as well.
The three main parties are unpopular and irrelevant at the moment. The the NKOTB are making all the running. It is noticeable that Labour have now pivoted to start attacking the greens. How long before the Lib Dem’s do too, especially after the Greens destroyed them in a seat in the locals last week they previously held.
I don’t especially agree with the Greens but of all five parties they are the ones with a clear vision of the party they want to be and all credit to them for that.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
It's awful isn't it. You and I want to come on here and boast about how well our grandchildren are doing, how proud they are making us. How they are making the worst;d a better place. But, with 20-somethings we can't. Our 30-something is doing OK. But he's got a horrendous mortgage.
My grandson is just about managing a spoon now but still very much prefers his fingers. Introduced him to mashed raspberries last night. It was hilarious as every now and again the tartness made him shiver but he loved them. They went everywhere but a fair number made the mouth.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
It's awful isn't it. You and I want to come on here and boast about how well our grandchildren are doing, how proud they are making us. How they are making the worst;d a better place. But, with 20-somethings we can't. Our 30-something is doing OK. But he's got a horrendous mortgage.
My grandson is just about managing a spoon now but still very much prefers his fingers. Introduced him to mashed raspberries last night. It was hilarious as every now and again the tartness made him shiver but he loved them. They went everywhere but a fair number made the mouth.
So not quite first minister. This year.
Finance minister, maybe?
Not sure. His limited vocabulary already includes the word "no" so certainly not for Labour or the SNP.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My eldest has a first class English degree, and after applying for hundreds of jobs is now on a Masters course to try and specialise. The jobs market barely exists for grads.
Say it quietly... but is this AI coming along? I know people want to blame NICs/minimum wage but the examples here are not those significantly affected by that change.
I don't talk to the kind of people who make these decisions but there are definitely whispers that there won't be as many new grads coming in because the fear is they are a big waste of money. They aren't entirely wrong - some of the jobs I might have given some of our new grads are now done by AI and there is no point in wasting my time training them up. The optimal number of entry-level staff has dropped.
You know it can be both. Different jobs in different industries. When employers in hospitality and small businesses say the change to NIC’s have had an impact I’d believe that.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
It's awful isn't it. You and I want to come on here and boast about how well our grandchildren are doing, how proud they are making us. How they are making the worst;d a better place. But, with 20-somethings we can't. Our 30-something is doing OK. But he's got a horrendous mortgage.
My grandson is just about managing a spoon now but still very much prefers his fingers. Introduced him to mashed raspberries last night. It was hilarious as every now and again the tartness made him shiver but he loved them. They went everywhere but a fair number made the mouth.
So not quite first minister. This year.
Finance minister, maybe?
Not sure. His limited vocabulary already includes the word "no" so certainly not for Labour or the SNP.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
It's awful isn't it. You and I want to come on here and boast about how well our grandchildren are doing, how proud they are making us. How they are making the worst;d a better place. But, with 20-somethings we can't. Our 30-something is doing OK. But he's got a horrendous mortgage.
My grandson is just about managing a spoon now but still very much prefers his fingers. Introduced him to mashed raspberries last night. It was hilarious as every now and again the tartness made him shiver but he loved them. They went everywhere but a fair number made the mouth.
So not quite first minister. This year.
Finance minister, maybe?
Not sure. His limited vocabulary already includes the word "no" so certainly not for Labour or the SNP.
I am not sure if the GOP can survive the damage done to it by the Mad King and his entourage
Whoever is left standing will need to disavow every one of them, and more
What's remarkable is how little damage the GOP have suffered. The lead for the Democrats in the generic ballot for the midterms is really quite small all things considered.
And, who knows, the relief when Trump has gone might be sufficient to conveniently wipe clean a lot of memories over the people who enabled him. (Assuming Trump does go, of course). Any non-Trump Republican might seem like a moderate in comparison, if they manage to speak in coherent sentences and respect the rule of law, regardless of everything else.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
It's awful isn't it. You and I want to come on here and boast about how well our grandchildren are doing, how proud they are making us. How they are making the worst;d a better place. But, with 20-somethings we can't. Our 30-something is doing OK. But he's got a horrendous mortgage.
My grandson is just about managing a spoon now but still very much prefers his fingers. Introduced him to mashed raspberries last night. It was hilarious as every now and again the tartness made him shiver but he loved them. They went everywhere but a fair number made the mouth.
So not quite first minister. This year.
Finance minister, maybe?
Well, why not keep him in the same career trajectory? If he can just about manage a Spoon surely he's on the fast track to a Travelodge?
I would like to retract all my previous criticisms of HSBC.
I now would be proud to work for HSBC and will be moving my main bank account to HSBC.
On a totally unrelated note.
BREAKING: George Osborne, the former chancellor, has emerged as a shock contender to become the next chairman of HSBC Holdings, one of the world's top banking jobs.
Someone who showed only a moderate interest in financial matters whilst in government. Has he shown any particular enthusiasm since?
This may reflect the bank chairman role now being more of a political one. What does that say about where we are?
The chairman just sets long term strategy and leads the board, the CEO runs operations day to day
Presumably he's also expecting to be the DG of BBC at the same time? Maybe edit a couple of newspapers as well?
Will there still be a BBC by the time a replacement DG is lined up? I don't adequately have a grasp of the figures, but it strikes me a demand in the billions looks like a winding-up event?
A British court isn’t going to issue a billion-pound anything, even for an egregious defamation, and it’s difficult to see what an American court can do given that the programme concerned wasn’t broadcast in the US.
Most likely the BBC agrees to a donation in the seven figures to a Trump-nominated charity such as his library fund, and everyone involved in the programme gets a right bollocking over basic journalistic standards and the need to be fair even to those you dislike.
What the BBC won’t want is anything that looks like the American process of “discovery”, where any and all written correspondence regarding the J6 speech gets sent to Trump’s lawyers.
It’s timed out in the UK and the US courts don’t have jurisdiction
Worth remembering that 'friends of the BBC' are very keen to keep the focus on Trump (nasty man wants to destroy auntie!) and not all the other awkward stuff in the Prescott report.
Yes the BBC are trying hard to make the story about Trump, where they might have some sympathy with the British public in general who don’t look too hard at what they actually did.
They really don’t want the focus to be on their lack of balance related to gender issues or the war in the Middle East, where they appear to have been captured by a loud group of activist young staff who have little public support.
Do you just do a show of hands in your Dubai apartment block?
If you think the BBC are not representing the opinions of the Great British public take a look.
What would you expect, when the BBC have spent two years pushing Hamas propoganda into everyone’s house 24 hours a day under pain of imprisonment.
no point arguing with sandpit he's been radicalised by his social media feed
He's entitled to his opinions like you, me and the rest, without your smears.
Fair.
But in this case it's one of those arguments which isn't falsifiable - "public opinion is meaningless because it's a result of BBC propaganda"...
So can't be taken particularly seriously.
The BBC has a responsibility to be especially vigilant but it's clear to.me that, at times, they are not, as they freely admit. The result can be seen as they lose respect.
A distinction needs to be made between: 1. Holding the BBC to a higher standard than other news outlets and calling out it's pomposity and failings (which we definitely should do); and 2. Trying to destroy the BBC (which we should not do, the alternatives take us further down the path of partisan post-truth news).
My own views on the current mess are skewed by the fact that I think there have been plenty of people with power over the BBC over the past 15 years who have been aiming for 2. This means that I am extremely wary of accepting any criticism of it at face value, especially from those on the right.
I'm not trying to deny it's failings; I am doubting the sincerity of (many of) those who criticise it.
Who was in a position of power over the BBC and aimed to destroy it? Names and actions please.
I am not sure if the GOP can survive the damage done to it by the Mad King and his entourage
Whoever is left standing will need to disavow every one of them, and more
What's remarkable is how little damage the GOP have suffered. The lead for the Democrats in the generic ballot for the midterms is really quite small all things considered.
And, who knows, the relief when Trump has gone might be sufficient to conveniently wipe clean a lot of memories over the people who enabled him. (Assuming Trump does go, of course). Any non-Trump Republican might seem like a moderate in comparison, if they manage to speak in coherent sentences and respect the rule of law, regardless of everything else.
To be fair to Trump he won the biggest EC margin for a Republican presidential candidate since Reagan. He reached white working class voters in a way no other Republican could, much like Boris could here and the Tories have been trounced ever since Johnson was forced to resign.
Trump was not on the ballot in the mini midterms at the start of the month and the Republicans were defeated across the board
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
I've the opposite problem. Nearly all of my son's friends have gone off and got jobs, normally starting at £100k+, but he is doing a BPhil for 2 more years at very considerable expense. So things could be worse!
What graduate job starts at £100k+? Other than maybe commercial barrister or Goldman Sachs banker?
I've just been reminded by Twix about the time Jeremy Bowen laid in a ditch in Ukraine, pretending he was under attack, while recording a report. A Ukrainian lady walking her dog stopped to check that he was ok
He really is just an aged Damien Day (Drop The Dead Donkey). Thank fuck we've had him as our man in the Middle East, faithfully reporting Hamas propaganda
"First Labour MP calls for Starmer to step down MP for Norwich South says Andy Burnham should return to the parliamentary Labour Party and ‘become the next prime minister’"
I would like to retract all my previous criticisms of HSBC.
I now would be proud to work for HSBC and will be moving my main bank account to HSBC.
On a totally unrelated note.
BREAKING: George Osborne, the former chancellor, has emerged as a shock contender to become the next chairman of HSBC Holdings, one of the world's top banking jobs.
Someone who showed only a moderate interest in financial matters whilst in government. Has he shown any particular enthusiasm since?
This may reflect the bank chairman role now being more of a political one. What does that say about where we are?
The chairman just sets long term strategy and leads the board, the CEO runs operations day to day
Presumably he's also expecting to be the DG of BBC at the same time? Maybe edit a couple of newspapers as well?
Will there still be a BBC by the time a replacement DG is lined up? I don't adequately have a grasp of the figures, but it strikes me a demand in the billions looks like a winding-up event?
A British court isn’t going to issue a billion-pound anything, even for an egregious defamation, and it’s difficult to see what an American court can do given that the programme concerned wasn’t broadcast in the US.
Most likely the BBC agrees to a donation in the seven figures to a Trump-nominated charity such as his library fund, and everyone involved in the programme gets a right bollocking over basic journalistic standards and the need to be fair even to those you dislike.
What the BBC won’t want is anything that looks like the American process of “discovery”, where any and all written correspondence regarding the J6 speech gets sent to Trump’s lawyers.
It’s timed out in the UK and the US courts don’t have jurisdiction
Worth remembering that 'friends of the BBC' are very keen to keep the focus on Trump (nasty man wants to destroy auntie!) and not all the other awkward stuff in the Prescott report.
Yes the BBC are trying hard to make the story about Trump, where they might have some sympathy with the British public in general who don’t look too hard at what they actually did.
They really don’t want the focus to be on their lack of balance related to gender issues or the war in the Middle East, where they appear to have been captured by a loud group of activist young staff who have little public support.
Do you just do a show of hands in your Dubai apartment block?
If you think the BBC are not representing the opinions of the Great British public take a look.
What would you expect, when the BBC have spent two years pushing Hamas propoganda into everyone’s house 24 hours a day under pain of imprisonment.
no point arguing with sandpit he's been radicalised by his social media feed
He's entitled to his opinions like you, me and the rest, without your smears.
Fair.
But in this case it's one of those arguments which isn't falsifiable - "public opinion is meaningless because it's a result of BBC propaganda"...
So can't be taken particularly seriously.
The BBC has a responsibility to be especially vigilant but it's clear to.me that, at times, they are not, as they freely admit. The result can be seen as they lose respect.
A distinction needs to be made between: 1. Holding the BBC to a higher standard than other news outlets and calling out it's pomposity and failings (which we definitely should do); and 2. Trying to destroy the BBC (which we should not do, the alternatives take us further down the path of partisan post-truth news).
My own views on the current mess are skewed by the fact that I think there have been plenty of people with power over the BBC over the past 15 years who have been aiming for 2. This means that I am extremely wary of accepting any criticism of it at face value, especially from those on the right.
I'm not trying to deny it's failings; I am doubting the sincerity of (many of) those who criticise it.
Fuck the BBC. My only beef with it is the license fee.
People here just see the BBC in terms of the news. Most don’t and I agree with MR bladdybub here
‘ When the BBC has these crises it’s always assumed that its main thing is news. Because all the voices shouting on whatever side of the crises are news people: politicians, journalists, commentators. But for many viewers, news is completely subsidiary to Entertainment, Drama and Sport. News is just what’s on in the background while you’re waiting for Traitors.’
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
I've the opposite problem. Nearly all of my son's friends have gone off and got jobs, normally starting at £100k+, but he is doing a BPhil for 2 more years at very considerable expense. So things could be worse!
What graduate job starts at £100k+? Other than maybe commercial barrister or Goldman Sachs banker?
There are IT jobs well in excess of £100k (multi times) for the right graduates.
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
I've the opposite problem. Nearly all of my son's friends have gone off and got jobs, normally starting at £100k+, but he is doing a BPhil for 2 more years at very considerable expense. So things could be worse!
What graduate job starts at £100k+? Other than maybe commercial barrister or Goldman Sachs banker?
There are IT jobs well in excess of £100k (multi times) for the right graduates.
'An entry level position recruit at Amazon can expect to receive a £75,000 salary with a £15,000 bonus, according to a research from Emolument.com, a salary benchmarking site.'
'Apple junior employees typically get a salary of £72,000 with a potential £11,000 bonus on top.'
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
I've the opposite problem. Nearly all of my son's friends have gone off and got jobs, normally starting at £100k+, but he is doing a BPhil for 2 more years at very considerable expense. So things could be worse!
What graduate job starts at £100k+? Other than maybe commercial barrister or Goldman Sachs banker?
There are IT jobs well in excess of £100k (multi times) for the right graduates.
'An entry level position recruit at Amazon can expect to receive a £75,000 salary with a £15,000 bonus, according to a research from Emolument.com, a salary benchmarking site.'
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
I've the opposite problem. Nearly all of my son's friends have gone off and got jobs, normally starting at £100k+, but he is doing a BPhil for 2 more years at very considerable expense. So things could be worse!
What graduate job starts at £100k+? Other than maybe commercial barrister or Goldman Sachs banker?
There are IT jobs well in excess of £100k (multi times) for the right graduates.
'An entry level position recruit at Amazon can expect to receive a £75,000 salary with a £15,000 bonus, according to a research from Emolument.com, a salary benchmarking site.'
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
I've the opposite problem. Nearly all of my son's friends have gone off and got jobs, normally starting at £100k+, but he is doing a BPhil for 2 more years at very considerable expense. So things could be worse!
What graduate job starts at £100k+? Other than maybe commercial barrister or Goldman Sachs banker?
There are IT jobs well in excess of £100k (multi times) for the right graduates.
'An entry level position recruit at Amazon can expect to receive a £75,000 salary with a £15,000 bonus, according to a research from Emolument.com, a salary benchmarking site.'
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
I've the opposite problem. Nearly all of my son's friends have gone off and got jobs, normally starting at £100k+, but he is doing a BPhil for 2 more years at very considerable expense. So things could be worse!
What graduate job starts at £100k+? Other than maybe commercial barrister or Goldman Sachs banker?
There are IT jobs well in excess of £100k (multi times) for the right graduates.
'An entry level position recruit at Amazon can expect to receive a £75,000 salary with a £15,000 bonus, according to a research from Emolument.com, a salary benchmarking site.'
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
I've the opposite problem. Nearly all of my son's friends have gone off and got jobs, normally starting at £100k+, but he is doing a BPhil for 2 more years at very considerable expense. So things could be worse!
What graduate job starts at £100k+? Other than maybe commercial barrister or Goldman Sachs banker?
There are IT jobs well in excess of £100k (multi times) for the right graduates.
'An entry level position recruit at Amazon can expect to receive a £75,000 salary with a £15,000 bonus, according to a research from Emolument.com, a salary benchmarking site.'
UK tech jobs pay far less than equivalent in US, but I also wonder with the cliff edge what's the point of offering / earning say £105k. Its either £99k or really getting towards £150k to make it worth it.
I just had a look a few roles that are more junior roles in tech companies I know and surprisingly they come out at £90k odd a year. I wonder why that is.
I must be the lucky Wales mascot. I'll say it again. Wales might get beaten AGAIN by Japan.
They scraped a win against Liechtenstein in the Soccer too !!
Wales have always over performed at rugby union because every state secondary school played rugby rather than football. These days they don't. There is a decent schools competition but it is essentially the top private schools like Llandovery College, Christ College Brecon plus state comps with a rugby academy like Whitchurch, Cowbridge and the Olchfa. Back in the 70s and 80s not only did players make it to the British Lions from Gwendraeth or Llanelli Grammar schools but from Stebonheath Secondary school.
Am I the only person never to have met or emailled Jeff? Its starting to feel that way.
He really was the ultimate con man. Catch Me if you Can bloke (who actually lied about of a lot of it, his brother appears to have been up to more than him) can't hold a handle to Jeff.
Judgment at Nuremberg on BBC2 at the moment. great cast including Marlene, Judy Garland and Montgomery Clift*. Possibly the gayest movie ever made about the Holocaust.
*And William Shatner!
The film 'Nuremberg' starring Russel Crowe as Hermann Goring out now is a shocker though I thought his performance was quite compulsive. Probably worth watching for that alone unlike Rami Malek his psychiatrist who did nothing but remind us of the late great Freddy Mercury
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My niece tells me that her son, who graduates this year is applying for dozens of jobs. So far, unsuccessfully. His cousin, my younger grandson has gone to Oz. Temporarily, permanently? Who knows.
Same story with my granddaughter
I've the opposite problem. Nearly all of my son's friends have gone off and got jobs, normally starting at £100k+, but he is doing a BPhil for 2 more years at very considerable expense. So things could be worse!
What graduate job starts at £100k+? Other than maybe commercial barrister or Goldman Sachs banker?
There are IT jobs well in excess of £100k (multi times) for the right graduates.
'An entry level position recruit at Amazon can expect to receive a £75,000 salary with a £15,000 bonus, according to a research from Emolument.com, a salary benchmarking site.'
Half of all UK jobs shed since Labour came to power are among under-25s
With the government under fire before the autumn budget, Guardian analysis shows the dramatic leap in UK unemployment to the highest levels since the Covid pandemic is being fuelled by a youth jobs crisis.
As many as 46% of the 170,000 jobs lost from company payrolls since June last year are from those under the age of 25 – the equivalent of more than 150 jobs lost per day.
Youth unemployment has increased from 14.8% a year ago to 15.3%, the highest level outside the Covid pandemic since 2015, and more than three times the headline jobless rate for people over the age of 16. Long-term youth joblessness is also at a decade high.
Anyone who studies Labour's history. They leave office with fewer jobs than they inherited. It's a side-effect of their broken business model.
Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Hmm - do we have employment rate data for the young? We've discussed in detail on PB why unemployment isn't the full picture - indeed the latest employment and inactivity figures look quite good for the working population as a whole.
I have to admit, very regretfully, that all my late teen/early twenties relatives....... grandchildren, great-nephews etc ........ are having trouble getting onto the bottom rungs of the employment ladder. The only one who is working has a zero-hours job with few, if any, prospects of advancement. This isn't why I voted Labour
It is quite interesting - there's definitely been a big uptick in unemployment for young people, but the inactivity rate is down and the the employment rate is stable (or even a bit up, depending on where you measure from). So it would appear the reason for the change in the labour market is more young people entering the workforce over the last year or so.
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
My granddaughter, who graduated this year, has said none of her year have gained employment yet
My eldest has a first class English degree, and after applying for hundreds of jobs is now on a Masters course to try and specialise. The jobs market barely exists for grads.
Say it quietly... but is this AI coming along? I know people want to blame NICs/minimum wage but the examples here are not those significantly affected by that change.
I don't talk to the kind of people who make these decisions but there are definitely whispers that there won't be as many new grads coming in because the fear is they are a big waste of money. They aren't entirely wrong - some of the jobs I might have given some of our new grads are now done by AI and there is no point in wasting my time training them up. The optimal number of entry-level staff has dropped.
You know it can be both. Different jobs in different industries. When employers in hospitality and small businesses say the change to NIC’s have had an impact I’d believe that.
Indeed. All those ballet dancers who retrained in cyber don't have the fallback of a minimum wage job in hospitality because that's been clobbered too.
And so the revolution, like all revolutions, proceeds as ever to devour its own.
Plus ca change.
Trump demands 100% loyalty . Greene really couldn’t have been more supportive of him and yet she’s discarded like trash now . To call her a RINO is laughable given her voting history . I’m not sure it’s the end of the road for her but she really will have to grovel big time to return . And we’ve seen others do it .
Police have arrested two men in connection with a mobile phone hidden in the House of Commons that was reportedly planted there to play sex noises during prime minister’s questions.
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Youth unemployment was no longer a thing under the Tories.
Obviously redditors are enjoying reworking the Lewinsky scandal around it. "There are two Presidents in this picture" - a smiling Clinton sitting behind the Resolute desk.
The British Army is using Chinese-made 3D printers to build weapons despite national security concerns.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/11/15/army-uses-chinese-weapons-company-security-concerns/
Posters on here have said they sound these Chinese machines love to phone home. I have a pretty certain its been reported before that every design that goes into the machine has in the past been sent back.
https://x.com/youranoncentral/status/1989481608425205933?s=61&t=LYVEHh2mqFy1oUJAdCfe-Q
If anyone can be bothered: https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/datasets/employmentunemploymentandeconomicinactivitybyagegroupseasonallyadjusteda05sa
And statista's summary of that data have inactivity falling for the young since Labour got into power: https://www.statista.com/statistics/382428/uk-economic-inactivity-rate-by-age/?srsltid=AfmBOoomqBMlDwjTO_IkIbCR-Dcm66yjivBQ_prWQXfjyhPo7KFgMeMk
He complains about political pressure on the BBc while applying political pressure on t(e BBC over Reform, even browbeating journalists about it. I presume it goes down well with their focus groups.
Shame he, and his fellow MPs, don’t know what a woman is.
@RepMTG
I am now being contacted by private security firms with warnings for my safety as a hot bed of threats against me are being fueled and egged on by the most powerful man in the world.
The man I supported and helped get elected.
Aggressive rhetoric attacking me has historically led to death threats and multiple convictions of men who were radicalized by the same type rhetoric being directed at me right now.
This time by the President of the United States.
As a woman I take threats from men seriously.
I now have a small understanding of the fear and pressure the women, who are victims of Jeffrey Epstein and his cabal, must feel.
As a Republican, who overwhelmingly votes for President Trump‘s bills and agenda, his aggression against me which also fuels the venomous nature of his radical internet trolls (many of whom are paid), this is completely shocking to everyone.
My phone is blowing up with constant amazing support. I’m so thankful!
The Political Industrial Complex and the toxic violent nature of American politics must end.
Our country is worth saving and it can only be done if we pull together and save ourselves.
https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3m5oo76eyfk2j
I am not sure if the GOP can survive the damage done to it by the Mad King and his entourage
Whoever is left standing will need to disavow every one of them, and more
This isn't why I voted Labour
Chances are twin B will be emigrating to Iceland to run the Scout centre over the summer and then lead Geography field trips for evermore..
The latter is because there are zero jobs round here at the moment so it's best to just escape.
In a statement via the police,his family said: “We are so grateful for the outpouring of support from the public, and very touched by all the kind words about Sam’s brave actions"
https://bsky.app/profile/lizziedearden.bsky.social/post/3m5oqhqxbus2x
I can't think of a reason for that. Is the number of students dropping at the moment?
I'm pushing towards 90, so shouldn't have a problem. However, who is going to pay for my son's pension?
https://fullfact.org/news/jeremy-bowen-bbc-photo-frontline-ukraine/
He’s a useless cycnical opportunist trying to ride a populist wave and he’s trying to apply political leverage to the BBC, something he does not like others doing.
The BBC will cover Reform (Fukers - grow up) as they are leading the polls and the Lib Dem’s are down around 11% and their latest brain fart is taxing the banks, who we need to be a driver of growth in the economy, to fund a VAT cut for hospitality. How long would that last. One or two years. Perhaps cut spending instead.
He also doesn’t know what a woman is.
Debt slaves for life.
AI and this govt destroying entry level,jobs.
I wish them all well and success but worry most will not get it.
I don't talk to the kind of people who make these decisions but there are definitely whispers that there won't be as many new grads coming in because the fear is they are a big waste of money. They aren't entirely wrong - some of the jobs I might have given some of our new grads are now done by AI and there is no point in wasting my time training them up. The optimal number of entry-level staff has dropped.
But, with 20-somethings we can't.
Our 30-something is doing OK. But he's got a horrendous mortgage.
This is why the Greens are rising as well
Many 3D printers will send your design files to a server run by the manufacturer - often in China - which then forwards the files to the printer. Bambu Lab machines do this by default as do many other brands, it's a common feature that can be very convenient if you're running a lot of printers in a farm.
But you can turn it off. It's perfectly possible to run the printer in LAN mode, where it receives the files directly from a PC. If you're printing anything remotely sensitive the printer should also be firewalled so it can't access anything outside the local network.
(Incidentally I'm amazed and delighted to see somebody thinks the Wales rugby team will still exist come the World Cup. Given how bad they are right now I have my misgivings.)
So we hacked it to send DXFs of frames of a movie to China.
When they are sent abroad, the NGOs they work for pay them the going rate. Cuba then confiscates the vast majority of the paycheque to prop up its foreign currency reserves.
I've never heard of a 3D printer that will stop working if it's isolated from the internet, though. A lot of these machines end up in print farms and no farm operator would tolerate units that cease to print if the internet link goes down.
‘ No mother should have to explain to her child she was charged and convicted of something she didn't do.’
https://x.com/elizabethholmes/status/1989509092323234013?s=61
I found the (free software) that turned each frame into a DXF
The three main parties are unpopular and irrelevant at the moment. The the NKOTB are making all the running. It is noticeable that Labour have now pivoted to start attacking the greens. How long before the Lib Dem’s do too, especially after the Greens destroyed them in a seat in the locals last week they previously held.
I don’t especially agree with the Greens but of all five parties they are the ones with a clear vision of the party they want to be and all credit to them for that.
Finance minister, maybe?
And, who knows, the relief when Trump has gone might be sufficient to conveniently wipe clean a lot of memories over the people who enabled him. (Assuming Trump does go, of course). Any non-Trump Republican might seem like a moderate in comparison, if they manage to speak in coherent sentences and respect the rule of law, regardless of everything else.
Trump was not on the ballot in the mini midterms at the start of the month and the Republicans were defeated across the board
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002m1ns
Ordered to shut up about this. So should you
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1j84149g7ko
People here just see the BBC in terms of the news. Most don’t and I agree with MR bladdybub here
‘ When the BBC has these crises it’s always assumed that its main thing is news. Because all the voices shouting on whatever side of the crises are news people: politicians, journalists, commentators. But for many viewers, news is completely subsidiary to Entertainment, Drama and Sport. News is just what’s on in the background while you’re waiting for Traitors.’
https://x.com/baddiel/status/1988877036719391151?s=61
https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Salary/Google-Software-Engineer-New-Grad-Salaries-E9079_D_KO7,33.htm
'An entry level position recruit at Amazon can expect to receive a £75,000 salary with a £15,000 bonus, according to a research from Emolument.com, a salary benchmarking site.'
'Apple junior employees typically get a salary of £72,000 with a potential £11,000 bonus on top.'
At Microsoft, graduates start on £46k
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/amazon-tops-list-of-the-best-paying-tech-firms-for-junior-employees-a7007371.html
And so the revolution, like all revolutions, proceeds as ever to devour its own.
Plus ca change.
I just had a look a few roles that are more junior roles in tech companies I know and surprisingly they come out at £90k odd a year. I wonder why that is.
Here's some kind of letter of recommendation that Noam Chomsky wrote for his "highly valued friend" Jeffrey Epstein.
https://x.com/SilvermanJacob/status/1989336932308877484
He really was the ultimate con man. Catch Me if you Can bloke (who actually lied about of a lot of it, his brother appears to have been up to more than him) can't hold a handle to Jeff.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/nov/15/two-arrested-over-phone-hidden-in-house-of-commons-to-play-sex-noises-during-pmqs