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The fairytale of New York? – politicalbetting.com

Tomorrow sees the election for Mayor of New York and it would be quite the fairytale of New York if Andrew Cuomo wins given the current polling, the fact he lost in the primary to Zohran Mamdani and more pertinently the reasons he had to resign in disgrace as Governor of New York in 2021.

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  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,744
    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 1,819
    edmundintokyo said:

    I liked this take on Mamdami:

    Mamdani is simultaneously remarkable in how well he is performing despite being a fucking socialist, and in how poorly he is performing despite running against a criminal and a lunatic who are splitting the opposition vote between them.

    https://deer.social/profile/did:plc:lvwodiqbcwtvas6n4nfpkokt/post/3m4opd6vzk22i
    Those two things surely explain one another, no?

    Not that I disagree with either.
  • TazTaz Posts: 21,910
    noneoftheabove said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.

    Have the authorities told us whether the tracks were made in the UK or imported yet?
    Ooh, edgy social commentary this.
  • TazTaz Posts: 21,910
    I see Corbyn is phone banking for the Democrat as are others.

    Of course foreign interference in elections is bad if it’s someone like Musk. It’s okay when they do it.

    😂😂😂😂
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,855
    noneoftheabove said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.

    Have the authorities told us whether the tracks were made in the UK or imported yet?
    Landslip caused by rain. Which started in America.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,622
    LostPassword said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.

    Have the authorities told us whether the tracks were made in the UK or imported yet?
    Landslip caused by rain. Which started in America.
    And that rain probably started when a Muslim scared a butterfly in Indonesia which flapped its wings.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,316
    FPT: "Benpointer- I know we said most Russian oil exports are crude rather than refined oil but if all their refineries end up being taken out where will the Russians themselves get refined oil from? Or do those T72s run on crude oil?"

    I believe Russia gets refined products from Belarus. Be terrible if Belarus had a "smoking at work" incident...

    Although if Russia takes it to the point there are Belarussian shortages/price hikes, that is only going to fuel (pun intended) the growing unrest against Lukashenko. A change in the regime in Minsk to one friendly towards Kyiv would greatly change the forces available to Ukraine to defend the east.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,929
    SandyRentool said:

    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.

    From another forum:

    Yes, it’s 1R22, currently sat on it. We hit a landslide near Shap Summit. Leading coach K off the road, looks like all crew and passengers are OK.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 45,731
    edmundintokyo said:

    I liked this take on Mamdami:

    Mamdani is simultaneously remarkable in how well he is performing despite being a fucking socialist, and in how poorly he is performing despite running against a criminal and a lunatic who are splitting the opposition vote between them.

    https://deer.social/profile/did:plc:lvwodiqbcwtvas6n4nfpkokt/post/3m4opd6vzk22i
    Obviously a whole lot of other considerations but from a simplistic distance Mamdani gives every indication of not being an arsehole while Cuomo gives every indication that he is. Fair to say Cuomo has played a bad hand badly, his campaign and social media has shown all the warmth, nous and deft touch of another Andrew in the news at the moment.
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 2,060
    MarqueeMark said:

    FPT: "Benpointer- I know we said most Russian oil exports are crude rather than refined oil but if all their refineries end up being taken out where will the Russians themselves get refined oil from? Or do those T72s run on crude oil?"

    I believe Russia gets refined products from Belarus. Be terrible if Belarus had a "smoking at work" incident...

    Although if Russia takes it to the point there are Belarussian shortages/price hikes, that is only going to fuel (pun intended) the growing unrest against Lukashenko. A change in the regime in Minsk to one friendly towards Kyiv would greatly change the forces available to Ukraine to defend the east.

    Whilst I am 100% behind Ukraine, the possibility of a change in the regime in Minsk would only come from a collapse in Russia. Belorussia is 100% a Russian puppet. If Lukashenko fell out of a window, he'd simply be replaced by someone equally supportive of Russia (hand picked by Putin himself) or even just simply annex the country. It's defacto Russia anyway.
  • eekeek Posts: 31,751
    MarqueeMark said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.

    "Avanti West Coast are advising passengers do not travel north of Preston."

    That applies every day....
    Except you really don't want to go to Preston either..
  • eekeek Posts: 31,751
    edited November 3
    Theuniondivvie said:

    edmundintokyo said:

    I liked this take on Mamdami:
    Mamdani is simultaneously remarkable in how well he is performing despite being a fucking socialist, and in how poorly he is performing despite running against a criminal and a lunatic who are splitting the opposition vote between them.

    https://deer.social/profile/did:plc:lvwodiqbcwtvas6n4nfpkokt/post/3m4opd6vzk22i

    Obviously a whole lot of other considerations but from a simplistic distance Mamdani gives every indication of not being an arsehole while Cuomo gives every indication that he is. Fair to say Cuomo has played a bad hand badly, his campaign and social media has shown all the warmth, nous and deft touch of another Andrew in the news at the moment.
    Cuomo thinks an endorsement from Trump will get him votes in New York.

    Surely that tells you everything you need to know about him...
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,462
    Meanwhile, in endorsement news,

    Congratulations, Andrew Cuomo!

    I know how hard you worked for this.

    https://bsky.app/profile/zohrankmamdani.bsky.social/post/3m4p6pyn6sk2a
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,316
    edited November 3
    eek said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.

    "Avanti West Coast are advising passengers do not travel north of Preston."

    That applies every day....
    Except you really don't want to go to Preston either..
    One of my business chums has recently had two or maybe even three journeys from London to Glasgow, only to get as far as Preston and no further. He's had to overnight there each time.

    He concurs.
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 1,819
    Stuartinromford said:

    Meanwhile, in endorsement news,

    Congratulations, Andrew Cuomo!

    I know how hard you worked for this.

    https://bsky.app/profile/zohrankmamdani.bsky.social/post/3m4p6pyn6sk2a

    That led me to this: https://bsky.app/profile/i-magnus.bsky.social/post/3m4ooee7xgc27.

    In a nutshell, the first five seconds of that clip is why I think Mamdani will win. Yes he may be a socialist, but he is also funny.

    Trump is also funny, and I think for a large proportion of voters (sadly) being funny is more important than having realistic solutions.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,316
    edited November 3
    TheValiant said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    FPT: "Benpointer- I know we said most Russian oil exports are crude rather than refined oil but if all their refineries end up being taken out where will the Russians themselves get refined oil from? Or do those T72s run on crude oil?"

    I believe Russia gets refined products from Belarus. Be terrible if Belarus had a "smoking at work" incident...

    Although if Russia takes it to the point there are Belarussian shortages/price hikes, that is only going to fuel (pun intended) the growing unrest against Lukashenko. A change in the regime in Minsk to one friendly towards Kyiv would greatly change the forces available to Ukraine to defend the east.

    Whilst I am 100% behind Ukraine, the possibility of a change in the regime in Minsk would only come from a collapse in Russia. Belorussia is 100% a Russian puppet. If Lukashenko fell out of a window, he'd simply be replaced by someone equally supportive of Russia (hand picked by Putin himself) or even just simply annex the country. It's defacto Russia anyway.
    You have to wonder why Putin didn't annexe Belarussia, at least before trying for Ukraine.
  • eekeek Posts: 31,751
    maxh said:

    Stuartinromford said:

    Meanwhile, in endorsement news,

    Congratulations, Andrew Cuomo!

    I know how hard you worked for this.

    https://bsky.app/profile/zohrankmamdani.bsky.social/post/3m4p6pyn6sk2a

    That led me to this: https://bsky.app/profile/i-magnus.bsky.social/post/3m4ooee7xgc27.

    In a nutshell, the first five seconds of that clip is why I think Mamdani will win. Yes he may be a socialist, but he is also funny.

    Trump is also funny, and I think for a large proportion of voters (sadly) being funny is more important than having realistic solutions.
    Funny is a shortcut for being human so quickly gets people on your side (or at least means they look at you favourably)
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 1,819
    eek said:

    maxh said:

    Stuartinromford said:

    Meanwhile, in endorsement news,

    Congratulations, Andrew Cuomo!

    I know how hard you worked for this.

    https://bsky.app/profile/zohrankmamdani.bsky.social/post/3m4p6pyn6sk2a

    That led me to this: https://bsky.app/profile/i-magnus.bsky.social/post/3m4ooee7xgc27.

    In a nutshell, the first five seconds of that clip is why I think Mamdani will win. Yes he may be a socialist, but he is also funny.

    Trump is also funny, and I think for a large proportion of voters (sadly) being funny is more important than having realistic solutions.
    Funny is a shortcut for being human so quickly gets people on your side (or at least means they look at you favourably)
    Exactly. Contrast with Starmer (or Reeves, or Powell, or anyone in Labour really). Badenoch could develop a sense of humour, perhaps, she has moments.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 45,731
    edited November 3
    eek said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    edmundintokyo said:

    I liked this take on Mamdami:
    Mamdani is simultaneously remarkable in how well he is performing despite being a fucking socialist, and in how poorly he is performing despite running against a criminal and a lunatic who are splitting the opposition vote between them.

    https://deer.social/profile/did:plc:lvwodiqbcwtvas6n4nfpkokt/post/3m4opd6vzk22i

    Obviously a whole lot of other considerations but from a simplistic distance Mamdani gives every indication of not being an arsehole while Cuomo gives every indication that he is. Fair to say Cuomo has played a bad hand badly, his campaign and social media has shown all the warmth, nous and deft touch of another Andrew in the news at the moment.
    Cuomo thinks an endorsement from Trump will get him votes in New York.

    Surely that tells you everything you need to know about him...
    After all his attacks on Mamdani bouncing off harmlessly, Cuomo’s latest cunning stunt is a bitching match with Curtis Sliwa whose dumb voters should be backing big Andy according to him.
    Candidates saying they’ll work for all residents of a country/city/constituency should always be taken with a pinch of salt but such claims from Cuomo seem particularly empty.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,855
    MarqueeMark said:

    TheValiant said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    FPT: "Benpointer- I know we said most Russian oil exports are crude rather than refined oil but if all their refineries end up being taken out where will the Russians themselves get refined oil from? Or do those T72s run on crude oil?"

    I believe Russia gets refined products from Belarus. Be terrible if Belarus had a "smoking at work" incident...

    Although if Russia takes it to the point there are Belarussian shortages/price hikes, that is only going to fuel (pun intended) the growing unrest against Lukashenko. A change in the regime in Minsk to one friendly towards Kyiv would greatly change the forces available to Ukraine to defend the east.

    Whilst I am 100% behind Ukraine, the possibility of a change in the regime in Minsk would only come from a collapse in Russia. Belorussia is 100% a Russian puppet. If Lukashenko fell out of a window, he'd simply be replaced by someone equally supportive of Russia (hand picked by Putin himself) or even just simply annex the country. It's defacto Russia anyway.
    You have to wonder why Putin didn't annexe Belarussia, at least before trying for Ukraine.
    Because he didn't need to. If Ukraine had kept their Putin-friendly corrupt leader then it would have freed Putin to concentrate on Moldova, or the central Asian Republics.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,883
    LostPassword said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.

    Have the authorities told us whether the tracks were made in the UK or imported yet?
    Landslip caused by rain. Which started in America.
    Underinvestment by the Starmer government must have played a part.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,855
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    LostPassword said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.

    Have the authorities told us whether the tracks were made in the UK or imported yet?
    Landslip caused by rain. Which started in America.
    Underinvestment by the Starmer government must have played a part.
    The opposition to planting trees in the Cumbrian uplands is my knee jerk target for the finger of blame.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,818
    Taz said:

    I see Corbyn is phone banking for the Democrat as are others.

    Of course foreign interference in elections is bad if it’s someone like Musk. It’s okay when they do it.

    😂😂😂😂

    Corbyn doing phone banking is stupidity, rather than interference.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,818
    I was puzzled by the headline describing a Cuomo victory as a fairytale. For a moment.

    Then recalled the lyrics: "You scumbag, you maggot".
    Fair comment.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,818
    So much for the Tomahawks

    Trump 'not really' considering Tomahawk transfers to Ukraine, for now.

    When asked on Nov. 2 by reporters if his administration is considering sending Kyiv Tomahawks, U.S. President Donald Trump responded: “No, not really… things can change, but at this moment I’m not.”
    https://x.com/KyivIndependent/status/1985189019555127551
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,001
    LostPassword said:

    Peter_the_Punter said:

    LostPassword said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.

    Have the authorities told us whether the tracks were made in the UK or imported yet?
    Landslip caused by rain. Which started in America.
    Underinvestment by the Starmer government must have played a part.
    The opposition to planting trees in the Cumbrian uplands is my knee jerk target for the finger of blame.
    It's obviously NIMBY libdems fault.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 124,596
    Nigelb said:

    I was puzzled by the headline describing a Cuomo victory as a fairytale. For a moment.

    Then recalled the lyrics: "You scumbag, you maggot".
    Fair comment.

    Yay, somebody spotted the reference.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,818
    Theuniondivvie said:

    eek said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    edmundintokyo said:

    I liked this take on Mamdami:
    Mamdani is simultaneously remarkable in how well he is performing despite being a fucking socialist, and in how poorly he is performing despite running against a criminal and a lunatic who are splitting the opposition vote between them.

    https://deer.social/profile/did:plc:lvwodiqbcwtvas6n4nfpkokt/post/3m4opd6vzk22i

    Obviously a whole lot of other considerations but from a simplistic distance Mamdani gives every indication of not being an arsehole while Cuomo gives every indication that he is. Fair to say Cuomo has played a bad hand badly, his campaign and social media has shown all the warmth, nous and deft touch of another Andrew in the news at the moment.
    Cuomo thinks an endorsement from Trump will get him votes in New York.

    Surely that tells you everything you need to know about him...
    After all his attacks on Mamdani bouncing off harmlessly, Cuomo’s latest cunning stunt is a bitching match with Curtis Sliwa whose dumb voters should be backing big Andy according to him.
    Candidates saying they’ll work for all residents of a country/city/constituency should always be taken with a pinch of salt but such claims from Cuomo seem particularly empty.
    On the contrary.
    He's full of it.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 20,462
    edited November 3
    eek said:

    maxh said:

    Stuartinromford said:

    Meanwhile, in endorsement news,

    Congratulations, Andrew Cuomo!

    I know how hard you worked for this.

    https://bsky.app/profile/zohrankmamdani.bsky.social/post/3m4p6pyn6sk2a

    That led me to this: https://bsky.app/profile/i-magnus.bsky.social/post/3m4ooee7xgc27.

    In a nutshell, the first five seconds of that clip is why I think Mamdani will win. Yes he may be a socialist, but he is also funny.

    Trump is also funny, and I think for a large proportion of voters (sadly) being funny is more important than having realistic solutions.
    Funny is a shortcut for being human so quickly gets people on your side (or at least means they look at you favourably)
    Case study is Boris.

    Everyone loves the facade, few people like what they see when they get underneath the facade.

    (Partly, as you say, funny is a good placebo for human. But also, funny works best when punching up. Funny punching down tends to look nasty.)
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,622
    Taz said:

    I see Corbyn is phone banking for the Democrat as are others.

    Of course foreign interference in elections is bad if it’s someone like Musk. It’s okay when they do it.

    😂😂😂😂

    A few things here:

    If Musk or Trump or De Niro or Taylor Swift want to pontificate on UK politics of course they should be, and are, able to do so. However, they are then open to criticism and ridicule the same as if any other person enters the sphere.

    If they want to contribute millions, or in Musks case talk of $100m, to a UK political party, that should not be allowed. They are not the same thing at all.

    Same applies to Brits, including Corbyn, campaigning in the US.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 58,064
    LostPassword said:

    Peter_the_Punter said:

    LostPassword said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.

    Have the authorities told us whether the tracks were made in the UK or imported yet?
    Landslip caused by rain. Which started in America.
    Underinvestment by the Starmer government must have played a part.
    The opposition to planting trees in the Cumbrian uplands is my knee jerk target for the finger of blame.
    *Native* trees?
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,001
    I noticed on Sky News banner headline the suspect has reverted to 32 yr old man from 32 black British man.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,883
    MarqueeMark said:

    TheValiant said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    FPT: "Benpointer- I know we said most Russian oil exports are crude rather than refined oil but if all their refineries end up being taken out where will the Russians themselves get refined oil from? Or do those T72s run on crude oil?"

    I believe Russia gets refined products from Belarus. Be terrible if Belarus had a "smoking at work" incident...

    Although if Russia takes it to the point there are Belarussian shortages/price hikes, that is only going to fuel (pun intended) the growing unrest against Lukashenko. A change in the regime in Minsk to one friendly towards Kyiv would greatly change the forces available to Ukraine to defend the east.

    Whilst I am 100% behind Ukraine, the possibility of a change in the regime in Minsk would only come from a collapse in Russia. Belorussia is 100% a Russian puppet. If Lukashenko fell out of a window, he'd simply be replaced by someone equally supportive of Russia (hand picked by Putin himself) or even just simply annex the country. It's defacto Russia anyway.
    You have to wonder why Putin didn't annexe Belarussia, at least before trying for Ukraine.
    Does he need to? It's a fiefdom anyway.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 6,982
    Daveyboy1961 said:

    LostPassword said:

    Peter_the_Punter said:

    LostPassword said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.

    Have the authorities told us whether the tracks were made in the UK or imported yet?
    Landslip caused by rain. Which started in America.
    Underinvestment by the Starmer government must have played a part.
    The opposition to planting trees in the Cumbrian uplands is my knee jerk target for the finger of blame.
    It's obviously NIMBY libdems fault.
    Well, it did happen in Tim Farron’s constituency.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 131,238
    To win Cuomo likely needs Silwa to drop out as their combined votes are more than for Mamdani.

    Silwa is refusing to do so though, for although he dislikes the socialism of Mamdani he basically has said Cuomo is a scumbag
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 6,982
    Malmesbury said:

    LostPassword said:

    Peter_the_Punter said:

    LostPassword said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.

    Have the authorities told us whether the tracks were made in the UK or imported yet?
    Landslip caused by rain. Which started in America.
    Underinvestment by the Starmer government must have played a part.
    The opposition to planting trees in the Cumbrian uplands is my knee jerk target for the finger of blame.
    *Native* trees?
    Whitebeam, not blackthorn, insist the Daily Mail.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 47,874
    edited November 3
    Well the betting (1.05) says Mamdani is a cert. I hope so because it will show the ugly racist right that they don't own the populist space. You can whip up some fervour and offer simplistic solutions without demonising anybody except rich people. It's not really my thing, I'm Mr Mainstream, but elections are about choices and in this case, like the song goes, Mamdani, Mamdani, Mamdani is good enough for me.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,001
    I've got a feeling that within 3 days this has changed from possible foreign Terrorist threat to possible Care in the Community incident. I wonder what refukker Goodwin had to say about this?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,465
    Nigelb said:

    I was puzzled by the headline describing a Cuomo victory as a fairytale. For a moment.

    Then recalled the lyrics: "You scumbag, you maggot".
    Fair comment.

    I thought it was "f*ggot"?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,465
    eek said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.

    "Avanti West Coast are advising passengers do not travel north of Preston."

    That applies every day....
    Except you really don't want to go to Preston either..
    Nice station.
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 6,356
    Plod out in force all over the railway network this morning, special announcements being made and emblazoned on the booking app etc… Bit hard to understand why since they have assured everyone there is no evidence the attack was terrorism. So either they’ve made that statement prematurely or there’s lots of performative bo-lox going on today.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,883
    Daveyboy1961 said:

    I've got a feeling that within 3 days this has changed from possible foreign Terrorist threat to possible Care in the Community incident. I wonder what refukker Goodwin had to say about this?

    Standard practice is to ignore it. It didn't happen.

    Daily Mail has been following this procedure since the 1930s when it supported the fascists. Works perfectly.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 58,064
    eek said:

    Theuniondivvie said:

    edmundintokyo said:

    I liked this take on Mamdami:
    Mamdani is simultaneously remarkable in how well he is performing despite being a fucking socialist, and in how poorly he is performing despite running against a criminal and a lunatic who are splitting the opposition vote between them.

    https://deer.social/profile/did:plc:lvwodiqbcwtvas6n4nfpkokt/post/3m4opd6vzk22i

    Obviously a whole lot of other considerations but from a simplistic distance Mamdani gives every indication of not being an arsehole while Cuomo gives every indication that he is. Fair to say Cuomo has played a bad hand badly, his campaign and social media has shown all the warmth, nous and deft touch of another Andrew in the news at the moment.
    Cuomo thinks an endorsement from Trump will get him votes in New York.

    Surely that tells you everything you need to know about him...
    While the city itself is pretty liberal, there is in fact, quite a lot of rather right wing voters in the suburbs.

    My guess is that Cuomo is trying (in desperation) for differential turnout in those areas.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,001
    Not sure of the Sky News new look, Sophie and Wilf remind me of head girl and head of PE in Cheltenham Ladies college.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,818
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Nigelb said:

    I was puzzled by the headline describing a Cuomo victory as a fairytale. For a moment.

    Then recalled the lyrics: "You scumbag, you maggot".
    Fair comment.

    I thought it was "f*ggot"?
    That's the rhyme following
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 35,434
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Nigelb said:

    I was puzzled by the headline describing a Cuomo victory as a fairytale. For a moment.

    Then recalled the lyrics: "You scumbag, you maggot".
    Fair comment.

    I thought it was "f*ggot"?
    No that comes next. And there is no evidence for anything more or less than a scumbag and a maggot.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 46,271
    Fairliered said:

    Malmesbury said:

    LostPassword said:

    Peter_the_Punter said:

    LostPassword said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.

    Have the authorities told us whether the tracks were made in the UK or imported yet?
    Landslip caused by rain. Which started in America.
    Underinvestment by the Starmer government must have played a part.
    The opposition to planting trees in the Cumbrian uplands is my knee jerk target for the finger of blame.
    *Native* trees?
    Whitebeam, not blackthorn, insist the Daily Mail.
    Of all the trees that grow so fair, old England to adorn
    Greater are none beneath the sun than Oak, and Ash, and Thorn
    Sing Oak, and Ash, and Thorn, good sirs
    All on a midsummer's morn [...]
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,465
    moonshine said:

    Plod out in force all over the railway network this morning, special announcements being made and emblazoned on the booking app etc… Bit hard to understand why since they have assured everyone there is no evidence the attack was terrorism. So either they’ve made that statement prematurely or there’s lots of performative bo-lox going on today.

    They had a metal detector installed at Ilford Lizzie Line last week, but only for a few days.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,622
    moonshine said:

    Plod out in force all over the railway network this morning, special announcements being made and emblazoned on the booking app etc… Bit hard to understand why since they have assured everyone there is no evidence the attack was terrorism. So either they’ve made that statement prematurely or there’s lots of performative bo-lox going on today.

    Performative bo-lox is what a significant percentage of the population want after such an event. It wouldn't make any difference to me either, but I do understand why it does to some, and therefore as long as it is not over the top or sustained for too long am in favour of it.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,818
    Mexicanpete said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Nigelb said:

    I was puzzled by the headline describing a Cuomo victory as a fairytale. For a moment.

    Then recalled the lyrics: "You scumbag, you maggot".
    Fair comment.

    I thought it was "f*ggot"?
    No that comes next. And there is no evidence for anything more or less than a scumbag and a maggot.
    He was also a lousy mayor, TBF.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 131,238
    Taz said:

    I see Corbyn is phone banking for the Democrat as are others.

    Of course foreign interference in elections is bad if it’s someone like Musk. It’s okay when they do it.

    😂😂😂😂

    Corbyn is effectively phone banking for Mamdani via the Democratic Socialists, an outfit strongly linked to Bernie Sanders and AOC. It tends to back leftwing candidates rather than solely Democrats in 2000 it endorsed Ralph Nader the Green candidate over Al Gore for instance
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,465
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    TheValiant said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    FPT: "Benpointer- I know we said most Russian oil exports are crude rather than refined oil but if all their refineries end up being taken out where will the Russians themselves get refined oil from? Or do those T72s run on crude oil?"

    I believe Russia gets refined products from Belarus. Be terrible if Belarus had a "smoking at work" incident...

    Although if Russia takes it to the point there are Belarussian shortages/price hikes, that is only going to fuel (pun intended) the growing unrest against Lukashenko. A change in the regime in Minsk to one friendly towards Kyiv would greatly change the forces available to Ukraine to defend the east.

    Whilst I am 100% behind Ukraine, the possibility of a change in the regime in Minsk would only come from a collapse in Russia. Belorussia is 100% a Russian puppet. If Lukashenko fell out of a window, he'd simply be replaced by someone equally supportive of Russia (hand picked by Putin himself) or even just simply annex the country. It's defacto Russia anyway.
    You have to wonder why Putin didn't annexe Belarussia, at least before trying for Ukraine.
    Does he need to? It's a fiefdom anyway.
    "Union State"
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 56,316
    HYUFD said:

    Taz said:

    I see Corbyn is phone banking for the Democrat as are others.

    Of course foreign interference in elections is bad if it’s someone like Musk. It’s okay when they do it.

    😂😂😂😂

    Corbyn is effectively phone banking for Mamdani via the Democratic Socialists, an outfit strongly linked to Bernie Sanders and AOC. It tends to back leftwing candidates rather than solely Democrats in 2000 it endorsed Ralph Nader the Green candidate over Al Gore for instance
    And look how well that ended!
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,948
    Man, 32, charged with 10 counts of attempted murder
    published at 09:10
    09:10
    Breaking
    A 32-year-old from Peterborough has been charged with 10 counts of attempted murder, one count of actual bodily harm and one count of possession of bladed article following a stabbing attack on a train in Cambridgeshire on Saturday, British Transport Police says.

    He is named as Anthony Williams.

    More on this shortly.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93dwq33vkwt
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,883
    Can somebody answer a Vanilla question?

    When my cursor hovers over the Like icon, it sometimes gives the names of the posters and sometimes not. Is it supposed to, and is there any way of achieving some consistency in this?
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,622
    MarqueeMark said:

    HYUFD said:

    Taz said:

    I see Corbyn is phone banking for the Democrat as are others.

    Of course foreign interference in elections is bad if it’s someone like Musk. It’s okay when they do it.

    😂😂😂😂

    Corbyn is effectively phone banking for Mamdani via the Democratic Socialists, an outfit strongly linked to Bernie Sanders and AOC. It tends to back leftwing candidates rather than solely Democrats in 2000 it endorsed Ralph Nader the Green candidate over Al Gore for instance
    And look how well that ended!
    They were trying to pull up the trees for the Greens but ended up with just a bush instead.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,900
    BlancheLivermore said:

    Man, 32, charged with 10 counts of attempted murder
    published at 09:10
    09:10
    Breaking
    A 32-year-old from Peterborough has been charged with 10 counts of attempted murder, one count of actual bodily harm and one count of possession of bladed article following a stabbing attack on a train in Cambridgeshire on Saturday, British Transport Police says.

    He is named as Anthony Williams.

    More on this shortly.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93dwq33vkwt

    The second man arrested has been released without charge.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,818
    Mexican mayor gunned down during Day of the Dead celebrations
    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/02/mexican-mayor-gunned-down-during-day-of-the-dead-celebrations-00633134
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,622
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    Can somebody answer a Vanilla question?

    When my cursor hovers over the Like icon, it sometimes gives the names of the posters and sometimes not. Is it supposed to, and is there any way of achieving some consistency in this?

    Logged in vs logged out?
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 6,982
    moonshine said:

    Plod out in force all over the railway network this morning, special announcements being made and emblazoned on the booking app etc… Bit hard to understand why since they have assured everyone there is no evidence the attack was terrorism. So either they’ve made that statement prematurely or there’s lots of performative bo-lox going on today.

    Shutting the stable door ……..
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 58,064
    Nigelb said:

    So much for the Tomahawks

    Trump 'not really' considering Tomahawk transfers to Ukraine, for now.

    When asked on Nov. 2 by reporters if his administration is considering sending Kyiv Tomahawks, U.S. President Donald Trump responded: “No, not really… things can change, but at this moment I’m not.”
    https://x.com/KyivIndependent/status/1985189019555127551

    I’m not surprised.

    But then again, I wouldn’t have expected the Biden admin to send them either. An American (former) (semi) strategic weapon hitting targets in Russia?

    My Russian step-mother remembers the near demonisation of American Tomahawks in the 1980s. During that battle of wills between NATO and the Warsaw Pact, it was portrayed as a sneaky, nasty, terrible first strike weapon compared to the decent, straight forward RSD-10 (SS-20).

    Given that Putin & Co. are living in 1983, in their heads.. The Glory Days, when we were Young… it would be a step too far, I think.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,900
    SandyRentool said:

    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.

    What colour landslip?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,818
    Malmesbury said:

    Nigelb said:

    So much for the Tomahawks

    Trump 'not really' considering Tomahawk transfers to Ukraine, for now.

    When asked on Nov. 2 by reporters if his administration is considering sending Kyiv Tomahawks, U.S. President Donald Trump responded: “No, not really… things can change, but at this moment I’m not.”
    https://x.com/KyivIndependent/status/1985189019555127551

    I’m not surprised.

    But then again, I wouldn’t have expected the Biden admin to send them either. An American (former) (semi) strategic weapon hitting targets in Russia?

    My Russian step-mother remembers the near demonisation of American Tomahawks in the 1980s. During that battle of wills between NATO and the Warsaw Pact, it was portrayed as a sneaky, nasty, terrible first strike weapon compared to the decent, straight forward RSD-10 (SS-20).

    Given that Putin & Co. are living in 1983, in their heads.. The Glory Days, when we were Young… it would be a step too far, I think.
    It was supposedly a reaction to Putin using IRBMs
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 47,874
    noneoftheabove said:

    moonshine said:

    Plod out in force all over the railway network this morning, special announcements being made and emblazoned on the booking app etc… Bit hard to understand why since they have assured everyone there is no evidence the attack was terrorism. So either they’ve made that statement prematurely or there’s lots of performative bo-lox going on today.

    Performative bo-lox is what a significant percentage of the population want after such an event. It wouldn't make any difference to me either, but I do understand why it does to some, and therefore as long as it is not over the top or sustained for too long am in favour of it.
    If none of that visible reassurance activity happened there'd be no end of 'they just don't care' commentary. As far as I can see - and so far - this awful incident has been handled well by everyone involved.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 68,669
    BlancheLivermore said:

    Man, 32, charged with 10 counts of attempted murder
    published at 09:10
    09:10
    Breaking
    A 32-year-old from Peterborough has been charged with 10 counts of attempted murder, one count of actual bodily harm and one count of possession of bladed article following a stabbing attack on a train in Cambridgeshire on Saturday, British Transport Police says.

    He is named as Anthony Williams.

    More on this shortly.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93dwq33vkwt

    Sub Judice rules on public comment now in full flow.

  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 58,064
    dixiedean said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Details of derailment ar Shap here:

    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/awc-derailment-at-shap-summit-03-11-25.294230/

    Train hit a landslip.

    What colour landslip?
    Was the material in the landslip imported a long time ago, a year ago, or was it native soil?

    Was it a temporary import without the paperwork to keep it here permanently?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 82,818
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    Can somebody answer a Vanilla question?

    When my cursor hovers over the Like icon, it sometimes gives the names of the posters and sometimes not. Is it supposed to, and is there any way of achieving some consistency in this?

    No
    Happens to me, too.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,883
    Nigelb said:

    Peter_the_Punter said:

    Can somebody answer a Vanilla question?

    When my cursor hovers over the Like icon, it sometimes gives the names of the posters and sometimes not. Is it supposed to, and is there any way of achieving some consistency in this?

    No
    Happens to me, too.
    If I log out, the Likes etc disappear, so it's not that.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 35,997
    dixiedean said:

    BlancheLivermore said:

    Man, 32, charged with 10 counts of attempted murder
    published at 09:10
    09:10
    Breaking
    A 32-year-old from Peterborough has been charged with 10 counts of attempted murder, one count of actual bodily harm and one count of possession of bladed article following a stabbing attack on a train in Cambridgeshire on Saturday, British Transport Police says.

    He is named as Anthony Williams.

    More on this shortly.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93dwq33vkwt

    The second man arrested has been released without charge.
    I wonder if the second man was in fact a 'victim' who was trying disarm Williams. But, because he's mixed race.....
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 58,064
    OldKingCole said:

    dixiedean said:

    BlancheLivermore said:

    Man, 32, charged with 10 counts of attempted murder
    published at 09:10
    09:10
    Breaking
    A 32-year-old from Peterborough has been charged with 10 counts of attempted murder, one count of actual bodily harm and one count of possession of bladed article following a stabbing attack on a train in Cambridgeshire on Saturday, British Transport Police says.

    He is named as Anthony Williams.

    More on this shortly.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93dwq33vkwt

    The second man arrested has been released without charge.
    I wonder if the second man was in fact a 'victim' who was trying disarm Williams. But, because he's mixed race.....
    You're not suggesting that Chief Constable Sir Ronald Savage, OBE, DipSHit, is running an organisation that is a bit racist, are you?
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 45,213
    Nigelb said:

    So much for the Tomahawks

    Trump 'not really' considering Tomahawk transfers to Ukraine, for now.

    When asked on Nov. 2 by reporters if his administration is considering sending Kyiv Tomahawks, U.S. President Donald Trump responded: “No, not really… things can change, but at this moment I’m not.”
    https://x.com/KyivIndependent/status/1985189019555127551

    Did anyone ever think the asrsehoel would give them to Ukraine , no way he was going to upset his buddy.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,948
    British Transport Police
    @btp

    Anthony Williams, 32, from Peterborough, will appear in court today charged with 10 counts of attempted murder following the major incident in Huntingdon.

    He's charged with another count of attempted murder re a separate incident in east London. More ⬇️

    spkl.io/6007AwHHP

    https://x.com/BTP/status/1985278512345874782
  • kjhkjh Posts: 13,287
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    Can somebody answer a Vanilla question?

    When my cursor hovers over the Like icon, it sometimes gives the names of the posters and sometimes not. Is it supposed to, and is there any way of achieving some consistency in this?

    Always does on my laptop. Never on my phone. It used to be on my phone. If I drill down to the person's details on my phone and get the post up it does then on my phone.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 35,997
    Malmesbury said:

    OldKingCole said:

    dixiedean said:

    BlancheLivermore said:

    Man, 32, charged with 10 counts of attempted murder
    published at 09:10
    09:10
    Breaking
    A 32-year-old from Peterborough has been charged with 10 counts of attempted murder, one count of actual bodily harm and one count of possession of bladed article following a stabbing attack on a train in Cambridgeshire on Saturday, British Transport Police says.

    He is named as Anthony Williams.

    More on this shortly.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93dwq33vkwt

    The second man arrested has been released without charge.
    I wonder if the second man was in fact a 'victim' who was trying disarm Williams. But, because he's mixed race.....
    You're not suggesting that Chief Constable Sir Ronald Savage, OBE, DipSHit, is running an organisation that is a bit racist, are you?
    I wasn't suggesting anything. Perish the thought! I was just wondering.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 16,752
    BlancheLivermore said:

    Man, 32, charged with 10 counts of attempted murder
    published at 09:10
    09:10
    Breaking
    A 32-year-old from Peterborough has been charged with 10 counts of attempted murder, one count of actual bodily harm and one count of possession of bladed article following a stabbing attack on a train in Cambridgeshire on Saturday, British Transport Police says.

    He is named as Anthony Williams.

    More on this shortly.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93dwq33vkwt

    Is attempted murder a more serious charge than GBH? I am curious why he hasn't been charged with multiple counts of GBH and more than one of ABH. Lawyers, please explain.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,145
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    Can somebody answer a Vanilla question?

    When my cursor hovers over the Like icon, it sometimes gives the names of the posters and sometimes not. Is it supposed to, and is there any way of achieving some consistency in this?

    Happens to me, but if I refresh the page the names re-appear.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 45,731
    kinabalu said:

    noneoftheabove said:

    moonshine said:

    Plod out in force all over the railway network this morning, special announcements being made and emblazoned on the booking app etc… Bit hard to understand why since they have assured everyone there is no evidence the attack was terrorism. So either they’ve made that statement prematurely or there’s lots of performative bo-lox going on today.

    Performative bo-lox is what a significant percentage of the population want after such an event. It wouldn't make any difference to me either, but I do understand why it does to some, and therefore as long as it is not over the top or sustained for too long am in favour of it.
    If none of that visible reassurance activity happened there'd be no end of 'they just don't care' commentary. As far as I can see - and so far - this awful incident has been handled well by everyone involved.
    Except referring to a previous post, 80% of twitter.
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,943
    edited November 3
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    TheValiant said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    FPT: "Benpointer- I know we said most Russian oil exports are crude rather than refined oil but if all their refineries end up being taken out where will the Russians themselves get refined oil from? Or do those T72s run on crude oil?"

    I believe Russia gets refined products from Belarus. Be terrible if Belarus had a "smoking at work" incident...

    Although if Russia takes it to the point there are Belarussian shortages/price hikes, that is only going to fuel (pun intended) the growing unrest against Lukashenko. A change in the regime in Minsk to one friendly towards Kyiv would greatly change the forces available to Ukraine to defend the east.

    Whilst I am 100% behind Ukraine, the possibility of a change in the regime in Minsk would only come from a collapse in Russia. Belorussia is 100% a Russian puppet. If Lukashenko fell out of a window, he'd simply be replaced by someone equally supportive of Russia (hand picked by Putin himself) or even just simply annex the country. It's defacto Russia anyway.
    You have to wonder why Putin didn't annexe Belarussia, at least before trying for Ukraine.
    Does he need to? It's a fiefdom anyway.
    It would lead to a replay of the mass demonstrations of 2020, with a real chance of blowback into Russia itself. The Belarusian government may be a fiefdom, the people are not.

    The name of the country is Belarus- "Bell-a-roos"

    The people are Belarusian- "Bell-a-roos-i-an"

    Only the colonialists say Belo-Russia or Belo-Russian- it has not been called that for over 30 years.

  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,855
    BlancheLivermore said:

    British Transport Police
    @btp

    Anthony Williams, 32, from Peterborough, will appear in court today charged with 10 counts of attempted murder following the major incident in Huntingdon.

    He's charged with another count of attempted murder re a separate incident in east London. More ⬇️

    spkl.io/6007AwHHP

    https://x.com/BTP/status/1985278512345874782

    Another incident in east London?

    How long do we have to wait for the court case?
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 16,752
    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    So much for the Tomahawks

    Trump 'not really' considering Tomahawk transfers to Ukraine, for now.

    When asked on Nov. 2 by reporters if his administration is considering sending Kyiv Tomahawks, U.S. President Donald Trump responded: “No, not really… things can change, but at this moment I’m not.”
    https://x.com/KyivIndependent/status/1985189019555127551

    Did anyone ever think the asrsehoel would give them to Ukraine , no way he was going to upset his buddy.
    @Sandpit thought he would.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,472
    OldKingCole said:

    dixiedean said:

    BlancheLivermore said:

    Man, 32, charged with 10 counts of attempted murder
    published at 09:10
    09:10
    Breaking
    A 32-year-old from Peterborough has been charged with 10 counts of attempted murder, one count of actual bodily harm and one count of possession of bladed article following a stabbing attack on a train in Cambridgeshire on Saturday, British Transport Police says.

    He is named as Anthony Williams.

    More on this shortly.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93dwq33vkwt

    The second man arrested has been released without charge.
    I wonder if the second man was in fact a 'victim' who was trying disarm Williams. But, because he's mixed race.....
    I think a passenger mistakenly identified him as the attacker. Possibly his colour?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,465
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    Can somebody answer a Vanilla question?

    When my cursor hovers over the Like icon, it sometimes gives the names of the posters and sometimes not. Is it supposed to, and is there any way of achieving some consistency in this?

    On the main PB site, you can't see who's "liked" you when you "hover", but you can on the Vanilla site.

    Compare:
    https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2025/11/03/the-fairytale-of-new-york/

    With:
    https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/13195/the-fairytale-of-new-york-politicalbetting-com#latest
  • TazTaz Posts: 21,910
    maxh said:

    Taz said:

    I see Corbyn is phone banking for the Democrat as are others.

    Of course foreign interference in elections is bad if it’s someone like Musk. It’s okay when they do it.

    😂😂😂😂

    I feel a little bit of false equivalence between Magic Grandpa calling you up and suggesting that Putin was misunderstood, and being bombarded with $x billion of metaphorical crap whilst sitting eating a sourdough crumpet in the global 'town square'.
    Of course it isn’t just the likes of Putin who interfere in our elections. False equivalence.

    Clearly It’s alright when we do it 👍
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,465
    Taz said:

    maxh said:

    Taz said:

    I see Corbyn is phone banking for the Democrat as are others.

    Of course foreign interference in elections is bad if it’s someone like Musk. It’s okay when they do it.

    😂😂😂😂

    I feel a little bit of false equivalence between Magic Grandpa calling you up and suggesting that Putin was misunderstood, and being bombarded with $x billion of metaphorical crap whilst sitting eating a sourdough crumpet in the global 'town square'.
    Of course it isn’t just the likes of Putin who interfere in our elections. False equivalence.

    Clearly It’s alright when we do it 👍
    Trump
    Admiring
    Zealot
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 16,752
    Taz said:

    maxh said:

    Taz said:

    I see Corbyn is phone banking for the Democrat as are others.

    Of course foreign interference in elections is bad if it’s someone like Musk. It’s okay when they do it.

    😂😂😂😂

    I feel a little bit of false equivalence between Magic Grandpa calling you up and suggesting that Putin was misunderstood, and being bombarded with $x billion of metaphorical crap whilst sitting eating a sourdough crumpet in the global 'town square'.
    Of course it isn’t just the likes of Putin who interfere in our elections. False equivalence.

    Clearly It’s alright when we do it 👍
    Again, openly volunteering some time for a phonebank is rather different to secretly orchestrating a massive social media operation. If Putin confined himself to volunteering for a Reform UK phonebank one evening, I don't think people would be complaining.
  • TazTaz Posts: 21,910
    BlancheLivermore said:

    British Transport Police
    @btp

    Anthony Williams, 32, from Peterborough, will appear in court today charged with 10 counts of attempted murder following the major incident in Huntingdon.

    He's charged with another count of attempted murder re a separate incident in east London. More ⬇️

    spkl.io/6007AwHHP

    https://x.com/BTP/status/1985278512345874782

    Plod also tazed an innocent man, like they did at the attack on the Synagogue.
  • TazTaz Posts: 21,910
    bondegezou said:

    Taz said:

    maxh said:

    Taz said:

    I see Corbyn is phone banking for the Democrat as are others.

    Of course foreign interference in elections is bad if it’s someone like Musk. It’s okay when they do it.

    😂😂😂😂

    I feel a little bit of false equivalence between Magic Grandpa calling you up and suggesting that Putin was misunderstood, and being bombarded with $x billion of metaphorical crap whilst sitting eating a sourdough crumpet in the global 'town square'.
    Of course it isn’t just the likes of Putin who interfere in our elections. False equivalence.

    Clearly It’s alright when we do it 👍
    Again, openly volunteering some time for a phonebank is rather different to secretly orchestrating a massive social media operation. If Putin confined himself to volunteering for a Reform UK phonebank one evening, I don't think people would be complaining.
    Oh yes they would !!
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 25,622
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Taz said:

    maxh said:

    Taz said:

    I see Corbyn is phone banking for the Democrat as are others.

    Of course foreign interference in elections is bad if it’s someone like Musk. It’s okay when they do it.

    😂😂😂😂

    I feel a little bit of false equivalence between Magic Grandpa calling you up and suggesting that Putin was misunderstood, and being bombarded with $x billion of metaphorical crap whilst sitting eating a sourdough crumpet in the global 'town square'.
    Of course it isn’t just the likes of Putin who interfere in our elections. False equivalence.

    Clearly It’s alright when we do it 👍
    Trump
    Admiring
    Zealot
    I don't think it is even that, just an absurd compulsion for whataboutery.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,465
    bondegezou said:

    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    So much for the Tomahawks

    Trump 'not really' considering Tomahawk transfers to Ukraine, for now.

    When asked on Nov. 2 by reporters if his administration is considering sending Kyiv Tomahawks, U.S. President Donald Trump responded: “No, not really… things can change, but at this moment I’m not.”
    https://x.com/KyivIndependent/status/1985189019555127551

    Did anyone ever think the asrsehoel would give them to Ukraine , no way he was going to upset his buddy.
    @Sandpit thought he would.
    He's just another Trump-admiring zealot.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 131,238
    'Rachel Reeves is looking at more than a hundred tax and spending measures as she desperately tries to balance the books at the Budget.

    The Chancellor is considering a blizzard of measures targeting the 'wealthy' as she scrambles to drum up huge sums.

    Treasury officials are said to have been ordered to find ways of getting more money out of everyone with incomes of more than £45,000 a year.

    Insiders claim that only Brits below that threshold - the bottom two-thirds of earners - are being defined as 'working people' to receive protection from Labour's tax assault.

    That effectively brands the top third of earners as 'wealthy' – encompassing jobs such as HGV drivers, teachers and head chefs at the Wagamama restaurant chain.

    However, there are reports today that horse racing could be spared from expected taxes on gambling. Instead the focus is likely to be on slot machines and online gaming.'
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15252419/Death-tax-hikes-Reeves-looking-blizzard-increases-wealthy-middle-earners-Budget-horse-racing-spared-gambling-raid.html
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 45,731
    Excitement builds.
    Will it be be over by 11.01am?

    Nigel Farage MP
    @Nigel_Farage
    ·
    1h
    I will set out our economic vision for a future Reform government at 11am.

    https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1985252405361950978
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,145
    edited November 3
    'Anthony Williams' is a decidedly British name, although the English patriots could decide to console themselves with the thought that the accused may be of Welsh origin.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 35,997
    Barnesian said:

    OldKingCole said:

    dixiedean said:

    BlancheLivermore said:

    Man, 32, charged with 10 counts of attempted murder
    published at 09:10
    09:10
    Breaking
    A 32-year-old from Peterborough has been charged with 10 counts of attempted murder, one count of actual bodily harm and one count of possession of bladed article following a stabbing attack on a train in Cambridgeshire on Saturday, British Transport Police says.

    He is named as Anthony Williams.

    More on this shortly.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93dwq33vkwt

    The second man arrested has been released without charge.
    I wonder if the second man was in fact a 'victim' who was trying disarm Williams. But, because he's mixed race.....
    I think a passenger mistakenly identified him as the attacker. Possibly his colour?
    IIRC our discussion as the news started to come through was around reports of 'two coloured men' fighting.

    Or something similar to that, anyway.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,855
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    bondegezou said:

    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    So much for the Tomahawks

    Trump 'not really' considering Tomahawk transfers to Ukraine, for now.

    When asked on Nov. 2 by reporters if his administration is considering sending Kyiv Tomahawks, U.S. President Donald Trump responded: “No, not really… things can change, but at this moment I’m not.”
    https://x.com/KyivIndependent/status/1985189019555127551

    Did anyone ever think the asrsehoel would give them to Ukraine , no way he was going to upset his buddy.
    @Sandpit thought he would.
    He's just another Trump-admiring zealot.
    Super Uber Nerd In Locomotion
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,883
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Peter_the_Punter said:

    Can somebody answer a Vanilla question?

    When my cursor hovers over the Like icon, it sometimes gives the names of the posters and sometimes not. Is it supposed to, and is there any way of achieving some consistency in this?

    On the main PB site, you can't see who's "liked" you when you "hover", but you can on the Vanilla site.

    Compare:
    https://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2025/11/03/the-fairytale-of-new-york/

    With:
    https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/13195/the-fairytale-of-new-york-politicalbetting-com#latest
    Thanks Sunil, but I rarely use the Vanilla site. It's on the main site that I have noticed the inconsistency.

    Doesn't matter much. I'm not preoccupied with Likes. I just check occasionally to make sure I'm not appealing too much to the many lawyers we have on here.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 56,465
    LostPassword said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    bondegezou said:

    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    So much for the Tomahawks

    Trump 'not really' considering Tomahawk transfers to Ukraine, for now.

    When asked on Nov. 2 by reporters if his administration is considering sending Kyiv Tomahawks, U.S. President Donald Trump responded: “No, not really… things can change, but at this moment I’m not.”
    https://x.com/KyivIndependent/status/1985189019555127551

    Did anyone ever think the asrsehoel would give them to Ukraine , no way he was going to upset his buddy.
    @Sandpit thought he would.
    He's just another Trump-admiring zealot.
    Super Uber Nerd In Locomotion
    Er, Super-UNambiguous Intellectual Lifeform
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