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UNITE poll carried out by Survation has LAB with 12% lead over Nick Clegg in Sheffield Hallam. LAB 33, LD 23, CON 22, UKIP 9 GRN 12
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Doesn't chime with what I'm hearing for Lab and LD activists on the ground.0
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That said, would make my bet on Clegg being the leader with the lowest share of the vote in their constituency a winner0
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Time for tactical voting!TheScreamingEagles said:Doesn't chime with what I'm hearing for Lab and LD activists on the ground.
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Also doesn't make sense given Clegg's massive majority, the largest (raw figure) the party has. The LDs aren't facing total wipeout, their very safest seats shouldn't be in play. It doesn't fit with the usual party leader bonus (even the unpopular ones), or the relatively split opposition (remember Labour came 3rd in 2010).TheScreamingEagles said:Doesn't chime with what I'm hearing for Lab and LD activists on the ground.
Most of all, it doesn't split with the very respectable local election results the LDs have recorded in the seat since 2010.
On the other hand, Ashcroft didn't exactly have Clegg romping home either. The hardest but best bets in political betting are the ones where you decide a poll is wrong/misleading. I'm reluctant to do so, but this might be one of those times.0 -
That is said whenever someone does not like a poll !TheScreamingEagles said:Doesn't chime with what I'm hearing for Lab and LD activists on the ground.
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Isn't it telling that UNITE rather than using the money given to them by their members to actually protect the interests of those members, they choose to spend it on political polling...
Maybe it is time that we bring unions under the same sort of controls that exist to ensure that charities are kept to their primary goals rather than straying into matters that have nothing to do with them...
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What price did you take there?TheScreamingEagles said:That said, would make my bet on Clegg being the leader with the lowest share of the vote in their constituency a winner
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Con neck and neck for 2ndGeoffM said:
Time for tactical voting!TheScreamingEagles said:Doesn't chime with what I'm hearing for Lab and LD activists on the ground.
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Shortest "Night Hawks" in history ! Shows MIke and TSE are worried. Sheffield Hallam - the place for the Portillo moment.0
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Yes, Clegg should be all right. It's an bizarre thing but literally everyone in Sheffield hates Labour, and have done for thirty years. (I know many of them vote for Labour but that's a different, and even odder, thing entirely.) So amongst the quasi-Tories of Hallam Clegg won't have much of a problem.TheScreamingEagles said:Doesn't chime with what I'm hearing for Lab and LD activists on the ground.
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I think Labour are going to struggle to get the vote out, and as Clegg is hardly frightening to the Tories then he should get at least some tactical support.TheScreamingEagles said:Doesn't chime with what I'm hearing for Lab and LD activists on the ground.
As I recall, Sheffield Hallam was regarded as a fairly safe Tory seat until 97.
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UKIP into 3/1 in Rotherham w Hills, from 9/2
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/rotherham/winning-party0 -
Yep,time for the lib Dems to vote tory ;-)GeoffM said:
Time for tactical voting!TheScreamingEagles said:Doesn't chime with what I'm hearing for Lab and LD activists on the ground.
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LibDems should vote Tory to keep Labour out....bigjohnowls said:
Con neck and neck for 2ndGeoffM said:
Time for tactical voting!TheScreamingEagles said:Doesn't chime with what I'm hearing for Lab and LD activists on the ground.
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.........and limited companies not donating money to political parties without shareholder permission. Shareholders should have the right to donate their share of the donation to a charity of their choice.oxfordsimon said:Isn't it telling that UNITE rather than using the money given to them by their members to actually protect the interests of those members, they choose to spend it on political polling...
Maybe it is time that we bring unions under the same sort of controls that exist to ensure that charities are kept to their primary goals rather than straying into matters that have nothing to do with them...0 -
Shortest ever nighthawks was one that lasted 1 comment.surbiton said:Shortest "Night Hawks" in history ! Shows MIke and TSE are worried. Sheffield Hallam - the place for the Portillo moment.
Ironically, that involved a Sheffield Hallam Poll0 -
My father partook in this poll.0
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Hedge funds of course are a politicaloxfordsimon said:Isn't it telling that UNITE rather than using the money given to them by their members to actually protect the interests of those members, they choose to spend it on political polling...
Maybe it is time that we bring unions under the same sort of controls that exist to ensure that charities are kept to their primary goals rather than straying into matters that have nothing to do with them...
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True. I'd tactically vote incumbent if I lived there as the best way to keep the evil at bay though.bigjohnowls said:
Con neck and neck for 2ndGeoffM said:
Time for tactical voting!TheScreamingEagles said:Doesn't chime with what I'm hearing for Lab and LD activists on the ground.
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Yes. I'm proud to have grown up and live again in a seat, that has never ever had a Labour MP.foxinsoxuk said:
I think Labour are going to struggle to get the vote out, and as Clegg is hardly frightening to the Tories then he should get at least some tactical support.TheScreamingEagles said:Doesn't chime with what I'm hearing for Lab and LD activists on the ground.
As I recall, Sheffield Hallam was regarded as a fairly safe Tory seat until 97.
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Same lead as ICM found last May in the Oakenshott polls. I still think Clegg will narrowly win due to the nationwide coverage he'll get during the campaign, a bit of Labour seepage to the Greens and Tory tactical votes.
The top of the Lib Dems will look very different if Clegg and Alexander are gone.0 -
FPT Richard
"No 3: Well, well, what a surprise. Seumas Milne thinks the answer is.. to move left. Who'd a thunk it?"
Leaving out any idealogical preference I think he's right. Labour will not just drift to victory and as the clock is striking midnight they're realizing it. They need a sharp USP which can only be going hard left. Big attacks on hedge funds tax avoiders the super rich....and then go massive on soup kitchens bedroom taxes IDS etc etc.
Don't let themselves get bogged down in detail like Ed B foolishly did last night.0 -
OK, I do condemn in the most serious manner the actions and inactions of the Council and the Police Force snd virtually anybody. Also Paedophile activity which no one talks about until suspects actually die !SeanT said:fpt for Surbiton
Yawn. See my quotes, passim, downthread. I think I've been more than fair in addressing obvious ad hominem arguments from lefty and multiculti apologists on this subject.
What is eerie, and desolating, is how much you guys SO don't want to talk about the actual issue. Not at all. Anything but.
As a leading pb Labourite, for instance, one might hope your first comment would be a condemnation of the Labour council which covered-up and enabled the racialised gang rape of 1400 children in Rotherham. Instead, you make diversionary and distracting remarks. Look at the f*cking squirrel, etc.
It's depressing. You people are immoral. Foxinsox, you, all of you. Verging on evil.
That said, do you judge the girls of Thailand and Rotherham equally ? Or, are you helping the Thai economy ? You did not answer that part of the question by your accusation at me and Fox and others.0 -
Are we sure no leading questions?
ie GE voting intention asked as Q1 with nothing beforehand?
If not, it's meaningless.0 -
Really I hate this absolute reverential stuff to Ashcroft, an anachronistic peer of the realm. OGH- if you could put your tongue even further up his rectum you would put enemas out of business.
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It seemed to me that the criticisms of you were based on Andrea Dworkin's view that sexual intercourse between a man and a woman is inherently exploitative.SeanT said:fpt for Surbiton
Yawn. See my quotes, passim, downthread. I think I've been more than fair in addressing obvious ad hominem arguments from lefty and multiculti apologists on this subject.
What is eerie, and desolating, is how much you guys SO don't want to talk about the actual issue. Not at all. Anything but.
As a leading pb Labourite, for instance, one might hope your first comment would be a condemnation of the Labour council which covered-up and enabled the racialised gang rape of 1400 children in Rotherham. Instead, you make diversionary and distracting remarks. Look at the f*cking squirrel, etc.
It's depressing. You people are immoral. Foxinsox, you, all of you. Verging on evil.
On topic, I'd expect the Conservatives to gain far less than 22% here, and Clegg to hold it.
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Pretty sure this poll is an outlier. Seems unlikely that Tory support is down by only 1.5 points compared to about 5 nationally.0
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Why has Con tightened so much today on Most Seats?
Surely Ashcroft doesn't provide enough new evidence to justify such a large move?0 -
As the Spanish saying goes 'If you sit by the river long enough the body of your enemy will come floating by'
Well lots of us have been sitting beside this particular river for five years. (Though I'll believe it when I see it)0 -
The New Zealand judge in charge of the inquiry says "more than 100,000" victims0
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You managed to say all that without mentioning Labour once, well done.surbiton said:
OK, I do condemn in the most serious manner the actions and inactions of the Council and the Police Force snd virtually anybody. Also Paedophile activity which no one talks about until suspects actually die !SeanT said:fpt for Surbiton
Yawn. See my quotes, passim, downthread. I think I've been more than fair in addressing obvious ad hominem arguments from lefty and multiculti apologists on this subject.
What is eerie, and desolating, is how much you guys SO don't want to talk about the actual issue. Not at all. Anything but.
As a leading pb Labourite, for instance, one might hope your first comment would be a condemnation of the Labour council which covered-up and enabled the racialised gang rape of 1400 children in Rotherham. Instead, you make diversionary and distracting remarks. Look at the f*cking squirrel, etc.
It's depressing. You people are immoral. Foxinsox, you, all of you. Verging on evil.
That said, do you judge the girls of Thailand and Rotherham equally ? Or, are you helping the Thai economy ? You did not answer that part of the question by your accusation at me and Fox and others.0 -
Hi Tyson! Good to see several years in Florence haven't dulled you0
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Adding up the 2012 or 2014 local election votes across the constituency gives two Lib Dem wins, and not by small margins. We're talking 60-70% more votes than Labour. The number of polls showing Sheffield Hallam in contention are unnerving to me, but I still find it hard to believe those same voters will change their votes come 2015 by a sufficient margin to change the outcome.0
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Did they name check Labour in any way?SeanT said:Pretty brutal BBC Ten so far.
Rotherham Labour had a "deep rooted culture of cover-up"
On topic - Clegg with 53% of vote, and a Labour Council up to its eyeballs in a festering pit just up the road. Looks like mischief making, by Unite.
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I said something similar a couple of days ago, this is one big ego trip for Ashcroft.tyson said:Really I hate this absolute reverential stuff to Ashcroft, an anachronistic peer of the realm. OGH- if you could put your tongue even further up his rectum you would put enemas out of business.
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"The New Zealand judge in charge of the inquiry says "more than 100,000" victims"
Did they do the counting in Tower Hamlets?0 -
^Sigh^SeanT said:fpt for Surbiton
Yawn. See my quotes, passim, downthread. I think I've been more than fair in addressing obvious ad hominem arguments from lefty and multiculti apologists on this subject.
What is eerie, and desolating, is how much you guys SO don't want to talk about the actual issue. Not at all. Anything but.
As a leading pb Labourite, for instance, one might hope your first comment would be a condemnation of the Labour council which covered-up and enabled the racialised gang rape of 1400 children in Rotherham. Instead, you make diversionary and distracting remarks. Look at the f*cking squirrel, etc.
It's depressing. You people are immoral. Foxinsox, you, all of you. Verging on evil.
When have I ever excused what went on in Rotherham?
I just do not think what went on their unique, though the control of this as well as other aspects of the vice trade by British Pakistani gangs is a worrying phenomenon for many reasons.
Despite being about 5% of the UK population, Muslims are about 15% of the overall jail population, and in some prisons nearly half. One of the most frequent steps to Jihadism is the trail of crime then prison, falling under the spell of Islamic gangs that give direction to a lot of unfocussed anger, then Jihadism of a born again puritan. This was the path of both the Rigby and Hebdo killers.
Breaking this chain of events is essential for the future of our country. The more that Brits like TSE get painted by the same brush, the less easy is it for young Muslim men to feel a part of this nation.
TSE's only crimes are against fashion and music. I can live with that.0 -
Welcome back, tyson.tyson said:Really I hate this absolute reverential stuff to Ashcroft, an anachronistic peer of the realm. OGH- if you could put your tongue even further up his rectum you would put enemas out of business.
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Brown points the finger at Cameron.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-31141916
Can't say that I was ever impressed with Cameron's management of relations with Scotland.0 -
Yet it was this seat, and those surrounding, that ensured South Yorkshire still have a Labour police commisioner.. If it had been down to Rotherham and Rother Valley it would have been a different storyTheScreamingEagles said:
Yes. I'm proud to have grown up and live again in a seat, that has never ever had a Labour MP.foxinsoxuk said:
I think Labour are going to struggle to get the vote out, and as Clegg is hardly frightening to the Tories then he should get at least some tactical support.TheScreamingEagles said:Doesn't chime with what I'm hearing for Lab and LD activists on the ground.
As I recall, Sheffield Hallam was regarded as a fairly safe Tory seat until 97.0 -
Is this pollster BPC ?
Genuine question - I have a red on Lab in Hallam but it is a genuine question
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The 1,400 children are regarded as collateral damage Sean, I don't know why you bother with tribal idiots who put party allegiance above human suffering.SeanT said:
Too late. Your FIRST remark was an ad hominen remark about someone "mentioning" Rotherham. That was your FIRST reaction, your FIRST intervention. Nothing to do with 1400 raped children, instead just try and attack "opponents" of Labour.surbiton said:
OK, I do condemn in the most serious manner the actions and inactions of the Council and the Police Force snd virtually anybody. Also Paedophile activity which no one talks about until suspects actually die !SeanT said:fpt for Surbiton
Yawn. See my quotes, passim, downthread. I think I've been more than fair in addressing obvious ad hominem arguments from lefty and multiculti apologists on this subject.
What is eerie, and desolating, is how much you guys SO don't want to talk about the actual issue. Not at all. Anything but.
As a leading pb Labourite, for instance, one might hope your first comment would be a condemnation of the Labour council which covered-up and enabled the racialised gang rape of 1400 children in Rotherham. Instead, you make diversionary and distracting remarks. Look at the f*cking squirrel, etc.
It's depressing. You people are immoral. Foxinsox, you, all of you. Verging on evil.
That said, do you judge the girls of Thailand and Rotherham equally ? Or, are you helping the Thai economy ? You did not answer that part of the question by your accusation at me and Fox and others.
It says everything about you and your kind. You think of party first, political correctness second, and people.. dunno... ninth? Twelfth? At all? Working class white people... never?
You are beneath contempt. Likewise foxinsox. I hope the fact you are beneath the contempt of a lowlife boozer like me makes you squirm, in particular. Coda.
Where is the sisterhood today? Harman? Abbot? The right on Leftie celebs?0 -
Think I might spend early May in Sheffield Hallam.
I reckon the other 2 options of Toby/Natascha are safe so may as well see if we can put the sh**ts up the DPM0 -
Yes Survation are BPC registeredPulpstar said:Is this pollster BPC ?
Genuine question - I have a red on Lab in Hallam but it is a genuine question0 -
I'll take you canvassing in Sheffield Hallam.bigjohnowls said:Think I might spend early May in Sheffield Hallam.
I reckon the other 2 options of Toby/Natascha are safe so may as well see if we can put the sh**ts up the DPM
You'll love Dore.0 -
Amber Valley is my other option for 7/5/15 and probably the most sensible one from an EICIPM point of view0
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Well, up to a point.Roger said:FPT Richard
"No 3: Well, well, what a surprise. Seumas Milne thinks the answer is.. to move left. Who'd a thunk it?"
Leaving out any idealogical preference I think he's right. Labour will not just drift to victory and as the clock is striking midnight they're realizing it. They need a sharp USP which can only be going hard left. Big attacks on hedge funds tax avoiders the super rich....and then go massive on soup kitchens bedroom taxes IDS etc etc.
Don't let themselves get bogged down in detail like Ed B foolishly did last night.
Labour could have gone all-out for the 'magic money tree' vote, which I agree is quite large. Of course the problem with that strategy is that they might actually have won, and then what do they do?
Alternatively they could have gone for the 'vaguely sane finances but a bit more lefty than Osborne' vote, which is potentially larger.
Instead they've spent the last six years vacillating between the two, getting themselves into the ludicrous position of firstly arguing 'too far too fast', and then trying to argue that Osborne hadn't cut the deficit fast enough.
Currently their position is, putting it in the kindest possible terms, a studied exercise in obfuscation. I'm not sure that an abrupt switch to Syriza-style denial of reality would help. Firstly they'd have trouble, given the history to date, convincing the Seamus Milnes of this world that they really meant it, and secondly, for every Seamus Milne they did convince, they'd lose two sane left-leaning voters who are not in total denial about arithmetic.0 -
From the transcript, Brown sounds like he just decided to that Independence is the best solution. He must be. Surely he can't be saying that democracy should be sacrificed in order to strengthen dead institutional concepts?dr_spyn said:Brown points the finger at Cameron.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-31141916
Can't say that I was ever impressed with Cameron's management of relations with Scotland.0 -
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You are both totally wrong. We have never seen this level and depth of polling before at a UK general election and I have a great respect for Lord Ashcroft's approach.nigel4england said:
I said something similar a couple of days ago, this is one big ego trip for Ashcroft.tyson said:Really I hate this absolute reverential stuff to Ashcroft, an anachronistic peer of the realm. OGH- if you could put your tongue even further up his rectum you would put enemas out of business.
If you don't like it then tough. My judgement is that this is very important.
I'm sure you can find other sites to go to.
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Mrs BJ comes from Totley I will have you know.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'll take you canvassing in Sheffield Hallam.bigjohnowls said:Think I might spend early May in Sheffield Hallam.
I reckon the other 2 options of Toby/Natascha are safe so may as well see if we can put the sh**ts up the DPM
You'll love Dore.
Is that the rough part of the constituency?
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Ladbrokes odds compiler is paying attention to his work, which is a pretty good indicator that it's good stuff.MikeSmithson said:
You are both totally wrong. We have never seen this level and depth of polling before at a UK general election and I have a great respect for Lord Ashcroft's approach.nigel4england said:
I said something similar a couple of days ago, this is one big ego trip for Ashcroft.tyson said:Really I hate this absolute reverential stuff to Ashcroft, an anachronistic peer of the realm. OGH- if you could put your tongue even further up his rectum you would put enemas out of business.
If you don't like it then tough. My judgement is that this is very important.
I'm sure you can find other sites to go to.0 -
It's almost as if their members voted to have a political fund to be spent specifically on political activities.oxfordsimon said:Isn't it telling that UNITE rather than using the money given to them by their members to actually protect the interests of those members, they choose to spend it on political polling..
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A good post foxinsox. The first by anyone on that subject today. The handwringing by the usual suspects has been vomit inducing.0
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Don't forget he eats with a silver spoon and beats his servants too.tyson said:
Hi Roger too. I am a lurker here usually, but this Ashcroft pbCOM fetishism just rankles. Not only is he a Tory, but a peer..... arghhhhhh.........Roger said:Hi Tyson! Good to see several years in Florence haven't dulled you
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He is a life peer, and I would like to see the entire HoL abolished.tyson said:
Hi Roger too. I am a lurker here usually, but this Ashcroft pbCOM fetishism just rankles. Not only is he a Tory, but a peer..... arghhhhhh.........Roger said:Hi Tyson! Good to see several years in Florence haven't dulled you
That said Lord Ashcroft has brought something new to polling and betting than the grind of noisy YouGov.
I am beginning to like him a bit. I won't hold his money or title against him.0 -
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Ken & Lutfur probably arranged a lynch mob to stop anyone asking about child abuse in the Islamic Caliphate of THRoger said:
"The New Zealand judge in charge of the inquiry says "more than 100,000" victims"
Did they do the counting in Tower Hamlets?
Mississippi Burning comes to East London0 -
Fair enough and anyone in their right mind will fully respect your opinion.MikeSmithson said:
You are both totally wrong. We have never seen this level and depth of polling before at a UK general election and I have a great respect for Lord Ashcroft's approach.nigel4england said:
I said something similar a couple of days ago, this is one big ego trip for Ashcroft.tyson said:Really I hate this absolute reverential stuff to Ashcroft, an anachronistic peer of the realm. OGH- if you could put your tongue even further up his rectum you would put enemas out of business.
If you don't like it then tough. My judgement is that this is very important.
I'm sure you can find other sites to go to.
I'm not for one minute questioning his findings nor the value of them, I am more curious as to why he is actually doing it, it's hardly a profitable commercial enterprise for him.0 -
But Coral's odds compiler doesn't appear to rate Lord Ashcroft's polling.Pulpstar said:
Ladbrokes odds compiler is paying attention to his work, which is a pretty good indicator that it's good stuff.MikeSmithson said:
You are both totally wrong. We have never seen this level and depth of polling before at a UK general election and I have a great respect for Lord Ashcroft's approach.nigel4england said:
I said something similar a couple of days ago, this is one big ego trip for Ashcroft.tyson said:Really I hate this absolute reverential stuff to Ashcroft, an anachronistic peer of the realm. OGH- if you could put your tongue even further up his rectum you would put enemas out of business.
If you don't like it then tough. My judgement is that this is very important.
I'm sure you can find other sites to go to.0 -
Will Newsnight bother to mention Labour in tonight's Why Oh Why Special on BBC2.0
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Eh? He rates it too highly doesnt he?TheScreamingEagles said:
But Coral's odds compiler doesn't appear to rate Lord Ashcroft's polling.Pulpstar said:
Ladbrokes odds compiler is paying attention to his work, which is a pretty good indicator that it's good stuff.MikeSmithson said:
You are both totally wrong. We have never seen this level and depth of polling before at a UK general election and I have a great respect for Lord Ashcroft's approach.nigel4england said:
I said something similar a couple of days ago, this is one big ego trip for Ashcroft.tyson said:Really I hate this absolute reverential stuff to Ashcroft, an anachronistic peer of the realm. OGH- if you could put your tongue even further up his rectum you would put enemas out of business.
If you don't like it then tough. My judgement is that this is very important.
I'm sure you can find other sites to go to.0 -
On topic, these figures are weird. I'd be interested to see the sample, methodology and breakdown.
Off topic, long day; I need to sleep. Night all.0 -
Mike- what the hell do you think Ashcroft is doing this polling for? I mean are you such a patsy? Why should someone like him put his resources into these kind of endeavours except for one huge vanity project.MikeSmithson said:
You are both totally wrong. We have never seen this level and depth of polling before at a UK general election and I have a great respect for Lord Ashcroft's approach.nigel4england said:
I said something similar a couple of days ago, this is one big ego trip for Ashcroft.tyson said:Really I hate this absolute reverential stuff to Ashcroft, an anachronistic peer of the realm. OGH- if you could put your tongue even further up his rectum you would put enemas out of business.
If you don't like it then tough. My judgement is that this is very important.
I'm sure you can find other sites to go to.
You slavishly follow his every move and it's more than pathetic, it really is. It demeans you and it demands your site.
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Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · now
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Tories ahead by one: CON 34%, LAB 33%, LD 6%, UKIP 13%, GRN 7%0 -
Brown lost his marbles pre 2007. A shameful coverup ever since.Dair said:
From the transcript, Brown sounds like he just decided to that Independence is the best solution. He must be. Surely he can't be saying that democracy should be sacrificed in order to strengthen dead institutional concepts?dr_spyn said:Brown points the finger at Cameron.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-31141916
Can't say that I was ever impressed with Cameron's management of relations with Scotland.0 -
EARTHQUAKE !!!! Tory one point in front. Labour 0 leads in two polls.
Non-illogical poll alert.0 -
Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB 19s19 seconds ago
CON back in the lead with YouGov
CON 34%, LAB 33%, LD 6%, UKIP 13%, GRN 7%0 -
Bad day for Ed rounded off by CON lead in YG0
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Two crossovers
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Tories ahead by one: CON 34%, LAB 33%, LD 6%, UKIP 13%, GRN 7%0 -
tyson said:
Mike- what the hell do you think Ashcroft is doing this polling for? I mean are you such a patsy? Why should someone like him put his resources into these kind of endeavours except for one huge vanity project.MikeSmithson said:
You are both totally wrong. We have never seen this level and depth of polling before at a UK general election and I have a great respect for Lord Ashcroft's approach.nigel4england said:
I said something similar a couple of days ago, this is one big ego trip for Ashcroft.tyson said:Really I hate this absolute reverential stuff to Ashcroft, an anachronistic peer of the realm. OGH- if you could put your tongue even further up his rectum you would put enemas out of business.
If you don't like it then tough. My judgement is that this is very important.
I'm sure you can find other sites to go to.
You slavishly follow his every move and it's more than pathetic, it really is. It demeans you and it demands your site.
I meant it demeans your site.tyson said:
Mike- what the hell do you think Ashcroft is doing this polling for? I mean are you such a patsy? Why should someone like him put his resources into these kind of endeavours except for one huge vanity project.MikeSmithson said:
You are both totally wrong. We have never seen this level and depth of polling before at a UK general election and I have a great respect for Lord Ashcroft's approach.nigel4england said:
I said something similar a couple of days ago, this is one big ego trip for Ashcroft.tyson said:Really I hate this absolute reverential stuff to Ashcroft, an anachronistic peer of the realm. OGH- if you could put your tongue even further up his rectum you would put enemas out of business.
If you don't like it then tough. My judgement is that this is very important.
I'm sure you can find other sites to go to.
You slavishly follow his every move and it's more than pathetic, it really is. It demeans you and it demands your site.
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YOUGOV!!!!!0
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It just dawned on me, the 23.5% swing against Clegg isn't even in the top 10 swings in the polls today.0
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Vomit away, Rog. The gratuitous, patronising and outrageously irrelevant reference to "Brits like TSE" has a phoney leftie soft racism about it which could have been custom made to appeal to you.Roger said:A good post foxinsox. The first by anyone on that subject today. The handwringing by the usual suspects has been vomit inducing.
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How much did you have on the Clegg bet and at what price?TheScreamingEagles said:It just dawned on me, the 23.5% swing against Clegg isn't even in the top 10 swings in the polls today.
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Perfect end to a brilliant day.
In Scotland Labour looks fcuked come May and Tories back in lead with YouGov showing the Labour lead of 3% the other day was a rogue poll.
STV's political programme going big style on Ashcroft Scottish polls.
As for this Sheffield Hallam poll, can someone confirm if and when Survation ever predicted any poll correctly?0 -
I do see it in another way. Mike puts the information on his site, which the posters can then discuss, accept or reject.tyson said:
Mike- what the hell do you think Ashcroft is doing this polling for? I mean are you such a patsy? Why should someone like him put his resources into these kind of endeavours except for one huge vanity project.MikeSmithson said:
You are both totally wrong. We have never seen this level and depth of polling before at a UK general election and I have a great respect for Lord Ashcroft's approach.nigel4england said:
I said something similar a couple of days ago, this is one big ego trip for Ashcroft.tyson said:Really I hate this absolute reverential stuff to Ashcroft, an anachronistic peer of the realm. OGH- if you could put your tongue even further up his rectum you would put enemas out of business.
If you don't like it then tough. My judgement is that this is very important.
I'm sure you can find other sites to go to.
You slavishly follow his every move and it's more than pathetic, it really is. It demeans you and it demands your site.
The role of the site is to create debate using the widest possible source of information. And to make a few bob for Mike.0 -
They got the Scottish Independence Referendum spot on.Easterross said:Perfect end to a brilliant day.
In Scotland Labour looks fcuked come May and Tories back in lead with YouGov showing the Labour lead of 3% the other day was a rogue poll.
STV's political programme going big style on Ashcroft Scottish polls.
As for this Sheffield Hallam poll, can someone confirm if and when Survation ever predicted any poll correctly?0 -
Stick a fork in the Kippers - they are done. Passé , over, fini, goodnight Vienna...TheScreamingEagles said:Two crossovers
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Tories ahead by one: CON 34%, LAB 33%, LD 6%, UKIP 13%, GRN 7%0 -
@tnewtondunn: UKIP out of the news, sliding; RT @Sun_Politics YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Tories ahead by one: CON 34%, LAB 33%, UKIP 13%, GRN 7%, LD 6%.0
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Rotheham abuse victims Father on Newsnight...acused of being a bad parent by the council, the abuser hasnt been arrested or charged0
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I would guess Clegg will narrowly cling on this time (by about 5% or so), but Labour are going to gain the seat the next time they get a majority. The wealth of the constituency is a red herring: it is part of the trend of even the wealthy corners of big cities trending to the Left. It's just about 20-30 years behind the likes of Manchester Withington, Birmingham Edgbaston, Bristol West, various wealthy parts of London, etc.0
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Hmm, I wonder what they can 'weaponise' to get themselves back in the news?TGOHF said:
Stick a fork in the Kippers - they are done. Passé , over, fini, goodnight Vienna...TheScreamingEagles said:Two crossovers
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Tories ahead by one: CON 34%, LAB 33%, LD 6%, UKIP 13%, GRN 7%0 -
Ed was terrible at PMQ's. I think Ashcroft knocked the stuffing out of him.
Dead man walking...0 -
Well that's 8 leads in 49 this year so far, 6 of them by 1%. Well done you tories (pats heads) 0
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I'm struggling to believe that poll is right, Clegg is facing LABOUR not the bloody SNP.isam said:
How much did you have on the Clegg bet and at what price?TheScreamingEagles said:It just dawned on me, the 23.5% swing against Clegg isn't even in the top 10 swings in the polls today.
Labour 32, Lib Dem 31 something like that would be more believable.0 -
Yet, the Kippers still keep polling c15% on average, despite your most heroic efforts at spinning.TGOHF said:
Stick a fork in the Kippers - they are done. Passé , over, fini, goodnight Vienna...TheScreamingEagles said:Two crossovers
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Tories ahead by one: CON 34%, LAB 33%, LD 6%, UKIP 13%, GRN 7%0 -
Er, two of those three seats are Lib Dem...Danny565 said:I would guess Clegg will narrowly cling on this time (by about 5% or so), but Labour are going to gain the seat the next time they get a majority. The wealth of the constituency is a red herring: it is part of the trend of even the wealthy corners of big cities trending to the Left. It's just about 20-30 years behind the likes of Manchester Withington, Birmingham Edgbaston, Bristol West, etc.
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Oh look at how over excited the PB Tories are. Marching tho the top of the hill etc, etc.compouter2 said:EARTHQUAKE !!!! Tory one point in front. Labour 0 leads in two polls.
Non-illogical poll alert.
Thought I'd save you the effort tonight it's been a bad day for you.0 -
I know, but my point is they've trended to the Left (taking the Lib Dems pre-2010 as a leftwing party) with the Tories dropping almost completely out of contention even in 2010 when they were winning nationwide, despite the seats being wealthy on paper.Neil said:
Er, two of those three seats are Lib Dem...Danny565 said:I would guess Clegg will narrowly cling on this time (by about 5% or so), but Labour are going to gain the seat the next time they get a majority. The wealth of the constituency is a red herring: it is part of the trend of even the wealthy corners of big cities trending to the Left. It's just about 20-30 years behind the likes of Manchester Withington, Birmingham Edgbaston, Bristol West, etc.
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Just been speaking to my mate at Betfair and I know exactly what bets were placed on that market...Pulpstar said:
I'm struggling to believe that poll is right, Clegg is facing LABOUR not the bloody SNP.isam said:
How much did you have on the Clegg bet and at what price?TheScreamingEagles said:It just dawned on me, the 23.5% swing against Clegg isn't even in the top 10 swings in the polls today.
Labour 32, Lib Dem 31 something like that would be more believable.0 -
He does it because he enjoys it.tyson said:
Mike- what the hell do you think Ashcroft is doing this polling for? I mean are you such a patsy? Why should someone like him put his resources into these kind of endeavours except for one huge vanity project.MikeSmithson said:
You are both totally wrong. We have never seen this level and depth of polling before at a UK general election and I have a great respect for Lord Ashcroft's approach.nigel4england said:
I said something similar a couple of days ago, this is one big ego trip for Ashcroft.tyson said:Really I hate this absolute reverential stuff to Ashcroft, an anachronistic peer of the realm. OGH- if you could put your tongue even further up his rectum you would put enemas out of business.
If you don't like it then tough. My judgement is that this is very important.
I'm sure you can find other sites to go to.
You slavishly follow his every move and it's more than pathetic, it really is. It demeans you and it demands your site.
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