Stripping Prince Andrew of his titles, the country wants the King to act – politicalbetting.com
Stripping Prince Andrew of his titles, the country wants the King to act – politicalbetting.com
Critics dispute No10's claim that stripping Prince Andrew of his royal titles is a matter for the King, but most Britons say that the King (55%) rather than Parliament (26%) should make the decisionyougov.co.uk/topics/polit…
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Sorry for the nightmares.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/20/dealing-prince-andrew-problem-help-ease-william-accession-throne
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/20/labour-prefer-to-dodge-prince-andrew-scandal-despite-growing-disquiet
Second, to formally remove his Dukedom and title of Prince would certainly require an Act of Parliament which would also remove his place in the line of succession too. The King alone can’t do that. Much as Edward VIII’s place in the line of succession was formally removed by parliament along with his title of King by Parliament in the last century. That would likely come if Andrew received a criminal conviction for his alleged sexual act with Giuffre.
In any case given two presidents of the US Republic, Trump and Clinton met Epstein, unlike our King or Prince William and given former Presidents of the French and Brazilian republics are now in jail the argument for a republic over a constitutional monarchy is weaker than ever
Even in his lifetime, he led to a very active movement to restore the monarchy, if only to curb his powers.
I do care that everything is done in line with laws and rules though rather than pitchforks and flaming torches and because politicians and other big mouths want a moment in the sun shroud waving and burnishing their credentials.
Andrew is an entitled shit who has done a lot of very bad things but we don’t ignore leaseholds or laws or rules because we don’t like people, there need to be legal reasons otherwise it’s open season when someone with power decides they don’t like someone else and that someone might be the person shouting and crowing at the moment.
We can see how republics attract rule breakers in Trump, Putin and Sarkozy so if people don’t follow the rules and law then they aren’t any better than Presidents.
NO PRESIDENTS.
He should be stripped of all his titles and sent into exile
If it takes an act of parliament so be it
Punishment is for the courts. Unless you want to revive acts of attainder.
He wrecked our constitution even more than Corbyn or Polanski would have
As Ydoethur points out Cromwell pretty much ensured constitutional monarchy for, well, at least the next 367 years after his death.
Ribbentrop was writing memos confidently predicting a civil war in Britain because Edward had so many supporters.
One of them being one of Ribbentrop's own ex-(or possibly not so ex-) girlfriends, a certain Wallis Simpson...
In reality, I'm probably in a very small minority here, but has Andrew actually been charged with anything? Or convicted? He appears to be a loathsome slab of humanity, but he's not alone in that.
Even if he's attainted, he's still a royal.
If you want to bin him from the succession, that’s up to Parliament.
No-one can really do anything about him being a prince, because he is one, as mum was Queen.
Is it just really about the property now?
For the record, I'm a monarchist but not much of a royalist as I'm not much interested in the personalities, although always respected the Queen, personally, and rather like Charles and sympathise with his preoccupations, such as the environment and human-friendly architecture.
In all truth it’s a bit of a fiction - the decision would have been made at palace/government level beforehand and soundings taken to ensure that Parliament will dutifully wave it through so as to avoid the monarch becoming politicised.
For a practical example see Charles asking for Anne and Edward to be added as Counsellors of State.
So I don’t think that nothing more can be done by the Palace - they are still able, with government support - to remove the title. And I’m pretty sure the government wouldn’t act without the monarch’s blessing.
In the end, I think they will have to probably remove the titles. I am less keen on taking his property off him. Whatever crap deal was done at the time he’s signed a legally valid lease. He has the option of facing up to the shame and voluntarily exiting it. Given he appears to have no shame, I’m not sure he will, but as @boulay sets out above I don’t think it’s a tremendously good idea to start passing acts of parliament to evict people who have legal rights to their property.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpwvdvv70z7o
Margaret Hodge was worryingly excitable about it all this morning on Today with quite a lot of guesswork about the status of his lease leading to some pretty absolute conclusions on her part.
She was very open that she is using this to demand more scrutiny of the Royals’ funding and thought it awful that he was living it up in Royal Lodge at the taxpayers expense despite not knowing if it was the Royal Family’s own money paying for it, the sovereign grant, the duchy of Cornwall or Lancaster, or even (regardless of how he earns it) his own money.
I’m still trying to think of one person, Hodge, Helena Kennedy the other morning, for examples who have made a large point about the vast number of men, especially in the US who are slipping under the radar for doing what Prince Andrew did. This is an easy kicking now, let’s see them go for other people who are alleged to have also been up to no good.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/20/dealing-prince-andrew-problem-help-ease-william-accession-throne
Oh, sorry, not that kind of bust.
Joking aside, always sad for those owed when this happens in any walk of life.
Employers NIC, like Employees NIC, should be completely abolished with it all rolled into Income Tax so that all incomes, regardless of how they are sourced, are taxed at the same rate.
Of course that would horrify governments, and many voters, by revealing just how much tax we actually pay, but there's no reason only those working for a living should be taxed at a higher rate.
In UK terms the only clear offence he is perhaps guilty of is leaking Giuffre's social security details to his security detail but DPA breaches are ICO not police matters unless breaches of police investigations
For about 50 nanoseconds.
She is a disgrace and I await Badenoch's response to her disgusting remarks
If we became a republic then the Crown Estates would become our republic's estates, not disappear as the personal private fiefdom of an individual.
What exactly does ringfence mean to you? Because last time we discussed this, it was not remotely that.
(Ingrassia withdrew soon after this was published.)
Thanks to their six-year terms, senators can often look farther ahead than House members -- and sometimes do. source$: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/10/22/john-sununu-new-hampshire-senate/
Sununu earned a masters degree in mechanical engineering from MIT, and an MBA from Harvard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_E._Sununu
(For the record: I preferred the same two alternatives to the Loser than Sununu did in 2016 and 2024, John Kasich and Nikki Haley)
https://www.thenational.scot/news/25561787.prince-andrew-faces-exile-highland-town-amid-scandal/
So whatever happens if we become a republic with regards to the various pots of money isn’t relevant to the Prince Andrew story.
There was a much more blatant one recently, but I can't find it. All those poor ickle defenceless bald headed men.
https://conservativehome.com/2025/10/22/the-tories-and-the-search-for-cultural-coherence/
Btl comments hailing the new Thatcher. Send them home!
Only the ones we don't like obviously.
Aside - I thought Kemi was quite well-targeted at PMQ, but she was OTT in making it political when her own Government was hardly covered in glory.
and
https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/levy-to-finance-saf-revenue-certainty-will-be-passed-on-to-carriers
There's a 90% tax credit available if companies contribute money to community and environment projects. So it ends up having a similar effect to hypothecation, but via a mechanism that keeps the money out of reach of the State.
https://www.veoliatrust.org/funding-guidance/contributing-third-party-ctp/
She is getting better at PMQs (moving up from “terrible” to “fairly mediocre”)
https://manchestermill.co.uk/bad-bets-how-manchester-pride-gambled-on-scale-and-lost/
(The first video had her saying: "I am not a dictator". )
This is following on from Nigel chucking four out; the others are now all required to submit an approved form of written words:
Today, Cllr Kemkaran sent this note to members just before 9am this morning: “To counter all the negativity, HQ would like a statement ready to issue in support of the leadership ideally signed by all members. “
This was followed by another message titled “In support of our Leadership”.
It reads: “We, the undersigned, believe in democracy and have full confidence in our leader, Cllr Linden Kemkaran.
“During the hustings and subsequent vote for a group leader on May 8, 2025, Linden won overwhelmingly because we could see that she was the best person for the job.
“Leading a large group of newly-elected county councillors was a huge task in itself. To also lead the largest and most complex authority in the country was an almost impossible task for one person to take on from a standing start.
“But Linden rose to the challenge without hesitation. She has the opposition firmly on the run and under her guidance, Reform UK members are flourishing in their roles.
“She is leading the group and the council with courage, integrity and discipline.”
https://theisleofthanetnews.com/2025/10/21/county-council-leader-calls-on-reform-members-for-support/
Ref: First Law of Holes.
No suggestion they did anything illegal of course but nor is it confirmed Andrew acted illegally yet either and all were in Epstein's orbit
His actions are sleazy and reprehensible, but if we started punishing people for that…
https://youtu.be/F-ivM2L2dHQ?t=2358
(I did not know that the former MLA for Caerphilly where we have the by-election is thought to have killed himself. We do not have a verdict yet, but at the inquest it was stated he was found hanging.)
“I think that was a good compromise but I’m not sure that Putin will support it, and I said it to the president,” Zelenskyy said on a visit to Oslo, part of a tour of Scandinavia to seek additional military support.
The US president had earlier this week told reporters on Air Force One: “They can negotiate something later on down the line. But I said cut and stop at the battle line.” He was speaking shortly before a planned summit with Vladimir Putin was put on hold after Russia said its goal of seeking the whole of the eastern Donbas region, including areas held by Ukraine, had not changed.'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/22/zelenskyy-calls-trumps-proposal-to-freeze-war-at-current-frontlines-good-compromise
A bit like Pratchett’s famous definition of the Patrician: one man, one vote and he is that man.
Not saying its good or bad, but it is something I have noticed in recent years.
Have you read Virginia Giuffre book ?
You are allowed to exercise that right for flood defences, and the monarchy is under threat from a tide of sh1t so…
And a big shit from the castle grounds.
That's how the Duke of Clarence was drowned in a vat of Malmsey wine in 1478.
I'm wondering what the equivalent would be for Andrew, but I'm not comfortable with the images his - ahem - preferences are conjuring.