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  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 32,844
    Three arrested on suspicion of spying for Russia

    Three people have been arrested on suspicion of spying on behalf of Russia, the Metropolitan Police has said.

    A 41-year-old man and a 35-year-old woman were arrested at an address in Grays, Essex, the force said. A 46-year-old man was arrested at a separate address in the same area.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgq19751d6o
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 53,202
    isam said:

    Everything that angers people about Asylum seekers in one horrible story;

    Convicted terrorist
    Staying in a 4 star hotel at our expense
    Sexual predator
    Pretend PTSD
    Wife and kids back in Turkey
    Not a genuine asylum seeker

    An Egyptian asylum seeker who was jailed for raping a woman in London's Hyde Park is a convicted Islamic terrorist, it has emerged.

    Abdelrahmen Adnan Abouelela, 42, was found guilty in his absence of being part of a bomb-making cell in Egypt and given a seven-year jail sentence on May 5, 2015.

    Abouelela, a member of the radical Muslim Brotherhood movement, escaped from Egypt before being convicted.


    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/hyde-park-rape-migrant-convicted-terrorist-5HjdDCW_2/

    Arrived April 2023, under the last government.

    Was this when Braverman was in charge of the Home Office.

    Shows that delays in processing are a big part of the problem.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 53,202

    Three arrested on suspicion of spying for Russia

    Three people have been arrested on suspicion of spying on behalf of Russia, the Metropolitan Police has said.

    A 41-year-old man and a 35-year-old woman were arrested at an address in Grays, Essex, the force said. A 46-year-old man was arrested at a separate address in the same area.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgq19751d6o

    That's too young for it to be Trump...
  • isamisam Posts: 42,643
    edited 12:45PM
    Foxy said:

    isam said:

    Everything that angers people about Asylum seekers in one horrible story;

    Convicted terrorist
    Staying in a 4 star hotel at our expense
    Sexual predator
    Pretend PTSD
    Wife and kids back in Turkey
    Not a genuine asylum seeker

    An Egyptian asylum seeker who was jailed for raping a woman in London's Hyde Park is a convicted Islamic terrorist, it has emerged.

    Abdelrahmen Adnan Abouelela, 42, was found guilty in his absence of being part of a bomb-making cell in Egypt and given a seven-year jail sentence on May 5, 2015.

    Abouelela, a member of the radical Muslim Brotherhood movement, escaped from Egypt before being convicted.


    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/hyde-park-rape-migrant-convicted-terrorist-5HjdDCW_2/

    Arrived April 2023, under the last government.

    Was this when Braverman was in charge of the Home Office.

    Shows that delays in processing are a big part of the problem.
    😊

    Half the reason for posting it was to see who’d be the first lefty to blame the Tories!

    Gold medal, well done
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,800

    carnforth said:

    So the migrant we returned to France was an Indian national. We have a returns agreement with India:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migration-and-mobility-partnership/mou-on-migration-and-mobility-partnership-between-india-and-the-united-kingdom#chapter-4

    So I wonder if there are special circumstances?

    The special circumstance is that they needed to find someone to return to France to get the ball rolling so they could say that they'd started.
    Starmer 1, Rwanda policy nil.

    I hadn't realised until I read on BBC that because people processed in France are already approved for asylum, we can also skip the stay in hotel while waiting for decision.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,047
    MattW said:

    carnforth said:

    So the migrant we returned to France was an Indian national. We have a returns agreement with India:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migration-and-mobility-partnership/mou-on-migration-and-mobility-partnership-between-india-and-the-united-kingdom#chapter-4

    So I wonder if there are special circumstances?

    The special circumstance is that they needed to find someone to return to France to get the ball rolling so they could say that they'd started.
    Is it technically possible for the "one in" to be the same as the "one out" after they have gone to the embassy to make a request for asylum?

    That would wind up the press.
    I don't know, but the thing that the Press will all be searching for most will be the first crime committed by one of the refugees that come in from France under this scheme.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 53,202
    isam said:

    Foxy said:

    isam said:

    Everything that angers people about Asylum seekers in one horrible story;

    Convicted terrorist
    Staying in a 4 star hotel at our expense
    Sexual predator
    Pretend PTSD
    Wife and kids back in Turkey
    Not a genuine asylum seeker

    An Egyptian asylum seeker who was jailed for raping a woman in London's Hyde Park is a convicted Islamic terrorist, it has emerged.

    Abdelrahmen Adnan Abouelela, 42, was found guilty in his absence of being part of a bomb-making cell in Egypt and given a seven-year jail sentence on May 5, 2015.

    Abouelela, a member of the radical Muslim Brotherhood movement, escaped from Egypt before being convicted.


    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/hyde-park-rape-migrant-convicted-terrorist-5HjdDCW_2/

    Arrived April 2023, under the last government.

    Was this when Braverman was in charge of the Home Office.

    Shows that delays in processing are a big part of the problem.
    😊

    Half the reason for posting it was to see who’d be the first lefty to blame the Tories!

    Gold medal, well done
    Yes, true nonetheless!
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,878
    Catching up on the press conference.

    You can tell Mr Starmer is a lawyer - he's chewing a whole swarm of wasps without breaking his flow.

    "It's all about leaders who like each other."

    OUCH.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,308
    Have the government really returned someone to France or has Monsieur Beautemps, le Fermier, just gone home after his holiday?
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,585
    Foxy said:

    isam said:

    Foxy said:

    isam said:

    Everything that angers people about Asylum seekers in one horrible story;

    Convicted terrorist
    Staying in a 4 star hotel at our expense
    Sexual predator
    Pretend PTSD
    Wife and kids back in Turkey
    Not a genuine asylum seeker

    An Egyptian asylum seeker who was jailed for raping a woman in London's Hyde Park is a convicted Islamic terrorist, it has emerged.

    Abdelrahmen Adnan Abouelela, 42, was found guilty in his absence of being part of a bomb-making cell in Egypt and given a seven-year jail sentence on May 5, 2015.

    Abouelela, a member of the radical Muslim Brotherhood movement, escaped from Egypt before being convicted.


    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/hyde-park-rape-migrant-convicted-terrorist-5HjdDCW_2/

    Arrived April 2023, under the last government.

    Was this when Braverman was in charge of the Home Office.

    Shows that delays in processing are a big part of the problem.
    😊

    Half the reason for posting it was to see who’d be the first lefty to blame the Tories!

    Gold medal, well done
    Yes, true nonetheless!
    It was conservative government policy to slow down processing and to gain approval to use the foreign aid budget to pay for asylum-seekers temporary accommodation, resulting in a large number of asylum hotels.
    Someone cynical might suggest that this was done deliberately to create the social problems and public enmity against asylum-seekers.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,134
    edited 1:06PM
    Dopermean said:

    Foxy said:

    isam said:

    Foxy said:

    isam said:

    Everything that angers people about Asylum seekers in one horrible story;

    Convicted terrorist
    Staying in a 4 star hotel at our expense
    Sexual predator
    Pretend PTSD
    Wife and kids back in Turkey
    Not a genuine asylum seeker

    An Egyptian asylum seeker who was jailed for raping a woman in London's Hyde Park is a convicted Islamic terrorist, it has emerged.

    Abdelrahmen Adnan Abouelela, 42, was found guilty in his absence of being part of a bomb-making cell in Egypt and given a seven-year jail sentence on May 5, 2015.

    Abouelela, a member of the radical Muslim Brotherhood movement, escaped from Egypt before being convicted.


    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/hyde-park-rape-migrant-convicted-terrorist-5HjdDCW_2/

    Arrived April 2023, under the last government.

    Was this when Braverman was in charge of the Home Office.

    Shows that delays in processing are a big part of the problem.
    😊

    Half the reason for posting it was to see who’d be the first lefty to blame the Tories!

    Gold medal, well done
    Yes, true nonetheless!
    It was conservative government policy to slow down processing and to gain approval to use the foreign aid budget to pay for asylum-seekers temporary accommodation, resulting in a large number of asylum hotels.
    Someone cynical might suggest that this was done deliberately to create the social problems and public enmity against asylum-seekers.
    I think the biggest change was to limit the number of asylum seekers in any given constituency. This was probably done to reduce concern, but in fact made such concern vastly more widespread.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,308
    Press presumably busy putting on their hobnail boots ready for the presser
    Is it at 2.30?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 67,265
    MattW said:

    Catching up on the press conference.

    You can tell Mr Starmer is a lawyer - he's chewing a whole swarm of wasps without breaking his flow.

    "It's all about leaders who like each other."

    OUCH.

    Starmer could not have been more sycophantic to Trump and even embarrassingly pawing him

    Where is his self respect

    And Trump on signing the business deal said

    'Should I sign this Howard ?

    If the deal's no good I'm blaming you'

    Live press conference coming up shortly
    .

  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,585
    MattW said:

    CatMan said:

    Some juicy gossip from the Telegraph via the Guardian Blog:

    "Ahead of the state visit, the Newsmax CEO Christopher Ruddy (see 10.11am) hosted a party attended by senior rightwing British politicians. In an article for the Daily Telegraph, Gordon Rayner says the event degenerated into a row between the senior Tories over record of the last government.

    After [Nigel] Farage, [Marco] Rubio and [Scott] Bessent had left to attend another event, the Tory big beasts and a smattering of Reform bigwigs sat down to an evening of dinner and civil war.

    [Boris] Johnson, [Liz] Truss, former transport secretary, Mark Harper, and broadcaster, Andrew Neil, argued about the Tories’ record in government, particularly on immigration, and what the future direction of travel should be.

    Jacob Rees-Mogg, who could be regarded as the current standard-bearer of uniting the Right, (he even attended the Reform conference this month), tried and failed to argue that they should all work together for the good of the country. Reform members smiled wryly as they watched the Tories tear lumps out of each other.

    There is a lot of talk in the UK at the moment from people how think the right can only win the next election if the Conservatives and Reform UK can somehow work together. The former Tory minister Steve Baker said only this week he thought some sort of deal was unacceptable.

    But Rayner suggests that will be difficult. Referring to Boris Johnson, he quotes a “senior Reform figure” as saying:

    [Johnson] elicits a visceral emotion in our members. One of the most consensual opinions among Reform members is that he was a disaster, and has already claimed the title of the man who ended the Conservative party’s chances of ever regaining power.

    If we let him join Reform, there would be an exodus of 99.9% of our members.
    "

    The full Telegraph article:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/ea4c74acf47d1d29

    Scott Bessent was there as well to be involved in the plotting, so Trump sent his top man !!
    Newsbunny didn't mention that when he was being fluffed by Justin Webb on Today this morning
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 7,134
    "Macrons to offer 'scientific evidence' to US court to prove Brigitte is a woman, lawyer says"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg3llj5nxdo

    Why would they put themselves through this? Rather than just ignore it?
  • boulayboulay Posts: 7,337
    carnforth said:

    "Macrons to offer 'scientific evidence' to US court to prove Brigitte is a woman, lawyer says"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg3llj5nxdo

    Why would they put themselves through this? Rather than just ignore it?

    It’s a pretty horrid rumour and so I can understand why they might just say “fuck it, we can prove it’s a nasty lie” and shut it down.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,878
    edited 1:17PM
    carnforth said:

    "Macrons to offer 'scientific evidence' to US court to prove Brigitte is a woman, lawyer says"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg3llj5nxdo

    Why would they put themselves through this? Rather than just ignore it?

    Is there value in damaging Candace Owens or exposing it as a fake narrative in the USA?

    But given that it is complete BS, could she potentially back down and apologise?

    They did take legal action against the French vloggers from whom she took the story.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,973
    carnforth said:

    "Macrons to offer 'scientific evidence' to US court to prove Brigitte is a woman, lawyer says"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg3llj5nxdo

    Why would they put themselves through this? Rather than just ignore it?

    It does seem somewhat beneath them to even get involved, but will be rather amusing when Candace Owens is ordered to pay out hundreds of millions of dollars.
  • eekeek Posts: 31,329
    rkrkrk said:

    carnforth said:

    So the migrant we returned to France was an Indian national. We have a returns agreement with India:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migration-and-mobility-partnership/mou-on-migration-and-mobility-partnership-between-india-and-the-united-kingdom#chapter-4

    So I wonder if there are special circumstances?

    The special circumstance is that they needed to find someone to return to France to get the ball rolling so they could say that they'd started.
    Starmer 1, Rwanda policy nil.

    I hadn't realised until I read on BBC that because people processed in France are already approved for asylum, we can also skip the stay in hotel while waiting for decision.
    The annoying bit is that I think most of us would accept 25,000 approved asylum seekers preferring the U.K. to France in exchange for reducing the incentive to come by boat by returning those who arrive by boat.

    Heck that’s probably the best solution, do a deal with France where we accept x0,000, even 100,000 of their asylum seekers and return anyone arriving here back to France and say please apply there

  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,510
    Possibility of a 40 year old world record being broken pretty soon in the women's 400 metres final in Tokyo.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,308
    eek said:

    rkrkrk said:

    carnforth said:

    So the migrant we returned to France was an Indian national. We have a returns agreement with India:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migration-and-mobility-partnership/mou-on-migration-and-mobility-partnership-between-india-and-the-united-kingdom#chapter-4

    So I wonder if there are special circumstances?

    The special circumstance is that they needed to find someone to return to France to get the ball rolling so they could say that they'd started.
    Starmer 1, Rwanda policy nil.

    I hadn't realised until I read on BBC that because people processed in France are already approved for asylum, we can also skip the stay in hotel while waiting for decision.
    The annoying bit is that I think most of us would accept 25,000 approved asylum seekers preferring the U.K. to France in exchange for reducing the incentive to come by boat by returning those who arrive by boat.

    Heck that’s probably the best solution, do a deal with France where we accept x0,000, even 100,000 of their asylum seekers and return anyone arriving here back to France and say please apply there

    The French could just wave through anyone applying and saying 'Royaume Uni S"Il Vous Plait' and we will have zero input into who comes here.
    Only works if we have immigration officials in France at the processing centre
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 47,124
    boulay said:

    carnforth said:

    "Macrons to offer 'scientific evidence' to US court to prove Brigitte is a woman, lawyer says"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg3llj5nxdo

    Why would they put themselves through this? Rather than just ignore it?

    It’s a pretty horrid rumour and so I can understand why they might just say “fuck it, we can prove it’s a nasty lie” and shut it down.
    It's the sort of lie that's quite hard to shut down, as people want to believe it or like shitposting about it, as we've sadly seen on here. Even if they provide 100% incontrovertible scientific evidence, people will query it, say it's faked, etc, etc. Because the lie is more interesting, and harmful, than the truth.

    But even so, it's probably worth them doing it for everyone else.

    ISTR even after the McAlpine lies were exposed, some people continued to believe them. And even after his legal wins.

    Incidentally, one of the few nice things about politics atm is that we don't get to hear about either of the Bercows. They seem to have vanished into deserved obscurity.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,923
    Dopermean said:

    Foxy said:

    isam said:

    Foxy said:

    isam said:

    Everything that angers people about Asylum seekers in one horrible story;

    Convicted terrorist
    Staying in a 4 star hotel at our expense
    Sexual predator
    Pretend PTSD
    Wife and kids back in Turkey
    Not a genuine asylum seeker

    An Egyptian asylum seeker who was jailed for raping a woman in London's Hyde Park is a convicted Islamic terrorist, it has emerged.

    Abdelrahmen Adnan Abouelela, 42, was found guilty in his absence of being part of a bomb-making cell in Egypt and given a seven-year jail sentence on May 5, 2015.

    Abouelela, a member of the radical Muslim Brotherhood movement, escaped from Egypt before being convicted.


    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/hyde-park-rape-migrant-convicted-terrorist-5HjdDCW_2/

    Arrived April 2023, under the last government.

    Was this when Braverman was in charge of the Home Office.

    Shows that delays in processing are a big part of the problem.
    😊

    Half the reason for posting it was to see who’d be the first lefty to blame the Tories!

    Gold medal, well done
    Yes, true nonetheless!
    It was conservative government policy to slow down processing and to gain approval to use the foreign aid budget to pay for asylum-seekers temporary accommodation, resulting in a large number of asylum hotels.
    Someone cynical might suggest that this was done deliberately to create the social problems and public enmity against asylum-seekers.
    Your last sentence is an appalling slur. The last government was too incompetent to do anything deliberately.
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,717

    boulay said:

    carnforth said:

    "Macrons to offer 'scientific evidence' to US court to prove Brigitte is a woman, lawyer says"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg3llj5nxdo

    Why would they put themselves through this? Rather than just ignore it?

    It’s a pretty horrid rumour and so I can understand why they might just say “fuck it, we can prove it’s a nasty lie” and shut it down.
    It's the sort of lie that's quite hard to shut down, as people want to believe it or like shitposting about it, as we've sadly seen on here. Even if they provide 100% incontrovertible scientific evidence, people will query it, say it's faked, etc, etc. Because the lie is more interesting, and harmful, than the truth.

    But even so, it's probably worth them doing it for everyone else.

    ISTR even after the McAlpine lies were exposed, some people continued to believe them. And even after his legal wins.

    Incidentally, one of the few nice things about politics atm is that we don't get to hear about either of the Bercows. They seem to have vanished into deserved obscurity.
    I'd quite like to see more of Sally.


  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 47,124
    Do either of them drink? If not, what's a sober version of not being able to organise a piss-up in a brewery?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 67,265

    Do either of them drink? If not, what's a sober version of not being able to organise a piss-up in a brewery?
    Chaotic
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 37,510
    edited 1:26PM
    47.78. 0.18 behind the WR.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,308

    Do either of them drink? If not, what's a sober version of not being able to organise a piss-up in a brewery?
    Its astonishingly imbecilic.
    Sultana clearly wants to get on with it and Grandpa has his thumb up his arse at the allotment. Waste of time non-party
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,201
    Foxy said:

    isam said:

    Everything that angers people about Asylum seekers in one horrible story;

    Convicted terrorist
    Staying in a 4 star hotel at our expense
    Sexual predator
    Pretend PTSD
    Wife and kids back in Turkey
    Not a genuine asylum seeker

    An Egyptian asylum seeker who was jailed for raping a woman in London's Hyde Park is a convicted Islamic terrorist, it has emerged.

    Abdelrahmen Adnan Abouelela, 42, was found guilty in his absence of being part of a bomb-making cell in Egypt and given a seven-year jail sentence on May 5, 2015.

    Abouelela, a member of the radical Muslim Brotherhood movement, escaped from Egypt before being convicted.


    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/hyde-park-rape-migrant-convicted-terrorist-5HjdDCW_2/

    Arrived April 2023, under the last government.

    Was this when Braverman was in charge of the Home Office.

    Shows that delays in processing are a big part of the problem.
    But this government has been in office over a year now.

    I entirely understand that turning around a giant lumbering vessel like the Home Office is not a speedy process, but what are the signs they are actually getting to grip with it ?

    This is a bit like Trump saying it's still Biden's economy.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,047

    Do either of them drink? If not, what's a sober version of not being able to organise a piss-up in a brewery?
    Couldn't engineer a split in a left-wing party?

    Oh, wait a minute...
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 47,124

    Do either of them drink? If not, what's a sober version of not being able to organise a piss-up in a brewery?
    Couldn't engineer a split in a left-wing party?

    Oh, wait a minute...
    When they call it 'Your Party', does the 'your' refer to Judean people?

    Actually, perhaps not... ;)
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,201
    Interesting.

    As a neurosurgeon I care a lot about road safety.

    By now you’ve probably seen @Waymo ’s stunning safety results (like 91% fewer serious crashes). But they didn’t just publish data headlines. They released the raw CSV files and data dictionaries.
    I did a much deeper analysis. A fascinating story emerges when you analyze how they’re achieving this.

    This isn’t incremental improvement - it’s categorical. We’re looking at the potential elimination of traffic deaths as a leading cause of mortality.

    The intersection breakthrough: Waymo has essentially solved intersection crashes, with 95% fewer injury incidents than human drivers in the same locations. That’s transforming the deadliest driving scenario.

    The national math: If every US vehicle performed like Waymo, we’d prevent 33,000-39,000 deaths annually and save $0.9-1.25 trillion in societal costs. Even partial adoption at 27% would save ~10,000 lives per year. In terms of magnitude, this would be the equivalent of eliminating every pedestrian death nationally in a year.

    The physics signature: Here’s what fascinates me: 47% of Waymo’s contacts involve less than 1 mph delta-V. They’re not just avoiding crashes; they’re converting unavoidable incidents into gentle bumps. It’s like having physics itself on your side.

    We’re not talking about marginal safety gains. The data represents a fundamental shift from harm reduction to harm prevention.

    https://x.com/slotkinjr/status/1968381717934391309
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,308
    Sultanas name is not on Corbyns letter, she had joined the independent alliance so shes presumably lost the whip that doesn't exist from the party that isnt for promoting a website that is verboten to followers who weep
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,225
    @hoffman_noa

    Sultana is suggesting Jeremy Corbyn is a “right wing bad faith actor”

    Meanwhile collecting direct debits from Your Party members, which Corbyn now taking legal advice about

    Unless she’s been hacked this is genuinely hilarious

    https://x.com/hoffman_noa/status/1968669711681425520
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,128
    Andy_JS said:

    47.78. 0.18 behind the WR.

    An amazing time for the conditions, brilliant run by Paulino too - also under Kratochvílová's 1983 then world record.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,686
    Interesting that Sultana isn't mentioned on the post urging people not to sign up.

    Right pear, arent' they? I'm sure there are raisins, etc, but it looks a bit like they cherry-picked the key figs to sign the papaya datement after some mango, "Oh no, this is bananas"
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,308
    Scott_xP said:

    @hoffman_noa

    Sultana is suggesting Jeremy Corbyn is a “right wing bad faith actor”

    Meanwhile collecting direct debits from Your Party members, which Corbyn now taking legal advice about

    Unless she’s been hacked this is genuinely hilarious

    https://x.com/hoffman_noa/status/1968669711681425520

    LMAO agent Sultana has gone rogue
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 53,202
    Nigelb said:

    Foxy said:

    isam said:

    Everything that angers people about Asylum seekers in one horrible story;

    Convicted terrorist
    Staying in a 4 star hotel at our expense
    Sexual predator
    Pretend PTSD
    Wife and kids back in Turkey
    Not a genuine asylum seeker

    An Egyptian asylum seeker who was jailed for raping a woman in London's Hyde Park is a convicted Islamic terrorist, it has emerged.

    Abdelrahmen Adnan Abouelela, 42, was found guilty in his absence of being part of a bomb-making cell in Egypt and given a seven-year jail sentence on May 5, 2015.

    Abouelela, a member of the radical Muslim Brotherhood movement, escaped from Egypt before being convicted.


    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/hyde-park-rape-migrant-convicted-terrorist-5HjdDCW_2/

    Arrived April 2023, under the last government.

    Was this when Braverman was in charge of the Home Office.

    Shows that delays in processing are a big part of the problem.
    But this government has been in office over a year now.

    I entirely understand that turning around a giant lumbering vessel like the Home Office is not a speedy process, but what are the signs they are actually getting to grip with it ?

    This is a bit like Trump saying it's still Biden's economy.
    The rape happened in November last year, 4 months into this government.

    I think there has been an improvement in resolving asylum applications.

    These are April 2024 figures, but showing signs of improvement even then.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,878
    The one slightly discordant point I heard from the business statements was Trump's mention of 'billions of farm imports to the UK', whilst he was taking a perambulation around his imagination.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,308
    How can a party that doesn't exist implode?!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 53,202

    Scott_xP said:

    @hoffman_noa

    Sultana is suggesting Jeremy Corbyn is a “right wing bad faith actor”

    Meanwhile collecting direct debits from Your Party members, which Corbyn now taking legal advice about

    Unless she’s been hacked this is genuinely hilarious

    https://x.com/hoffman_noa/status/1968669711681425520

    LMAO agent Sultana has gone rogue
    She's Raisin Hell!
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,308
    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @hoffman_noa

    Sultana is suggesting Jeremy Corbyn is a “right wing bad faith actor”

    Meanwhile collecting direct debits from Your Party members, which Corbyn now taking legal advice about

    Unless she’s been hacked this is genuinely hilarious

    https://x.com/hoffman_noa/status/1968669711681425520

    LMAO agent Sultana has gone rogue
    She's Raisin Hell!
    Currant Affairs are hilarious
  • eekeek Posts: 31,329

    eek said:

    rkrkrk said:

    carnforth said:

    So the migrant we returned to France was an Indian national. We have a returns agreement with India:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migration-and-mobility-partnership/mou-on-migration-and-mobility-partnership-between-india-and-the-united-kingdom#chapter-4

    So I wonder if there are special circumstances?

    The special circumstance is that they needed to find someone to return to France to get the ball rolling so they could say that they'd started.
    Starmer 1, Rwanda policy nil.

    I hadn't realised until I read on BBC that because people processed in France are already approved for asylum, we can also skip the stay in hotel while waiting for decision.
    The annoying bit is that I think most of us would accept 25,000 approved asylum seekers preferring the U.K. to France in exchange for reducing the incentive to come by boat by returning those who arrive by boat.

    Heck that’s probably the best solution, do a deal with France where we accept x0,000, even 100,000 of their asylum seekers and return anyone arriving here back to France and say please apply there

    The French could just wave through anyone applying and saying 'Royaume Uni S"Il Vous Plait' and we will have zero input into who comes here.
    Only works if we have immigration officials in France at the processing centre
    So given the choice of 50,000 arriving here by boat or trusting France to approve people, you would prefer 50,000 arriving by boat because you don’t trust the French?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 67,265
    MattW said:

    The one slightly discordant point I heard from the business statements was Trump's mention of 'billions of farm imports to the UK', whilst he was taking a perambulation around his imagination.

    Yes I heard that and thought that was not something Starmer would want to hear, especially with his problems with the farmers
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,308
    Looks like this a coup against the Geriatric and Gaza bros. Sultana gets to keep all the data and subscriptions and Corbyn and co will be locked out if they don't get on board
  • Nigelb said:

    Is NVidia looking to acquire its own domestic manufacturing capacity in the US ?

    Intel and NVIDIA to Jointly Develop AI Infrastructure and Personal Computing Products
    https://newsroom.intel.com/artificial-intelligence/intel-and-nvidia-to-jointly-develop-ai-infrastructure-and-personal-computing-products

    A very big deal for Intel, in any event.

    Makes sense. NVidia's CPU efforts are restricted to ARM compatible cores and have gone nowhere, Intel's graphics and AI products are little better. The money involved is big for Intel, but pocket change for Nvidia.

    Tile-based chip designs make it much easier to just drop in a GPU tile, integration becomes a packaging issue not a design one.

    It also demonstrates how terrified both Intel and NV are of AMD's Ryzen AI system-onna-chip designs. If AI does take off the way NV wants it to and PCs/laptops become primarily a way of running LLMs those big SoCs are the thing to have, but NV and Intel have nothing competitive and no near-term way of changing that.
  • eekeek Posts: 31,329
    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    Foxy said:

    isam said:

    Everything that angers people about Asylum seekers in one horrible story;

    Convicted terrorist
    Staying in a 4 star hotel at our expense
    Sexual predator
    Pretend PTSD
    Wife and kids back in Turkey
    Not a genuine asylum seeker

    An Egyptian asylum seeker who was jailed for raping a woman in London's Hyde Park is a convicted Islamic terrorist, it has emerged.

    Abdelrahmen Adnan Abouelela, 42, was found guilty in his absence of being part of a bomb-making cell in Egypt and given a seven-year jail sentence on May 5, 2015.

    Abouelela, a member of the radical Muslim Brotherhood movement, escaped from Egypt before being convicted.


    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/hyde-park-rape-migrant-convicted-terrorist-5HjdDCW_2/

    Arrived April 2023, under the last government.

    Was this when Braverman was in charge of the Home Office.

    Shows that delays in processing are a big part of the problem.
    But this government has been in office over a year now.

    I entirely understand that turning around a giant lumbering vessel like the Home Office is not a speedy process, but what are the signs they are actually getting to grip with it ?

    This is a bit like Trump saying it's still Biden's economy.
    The rape happened in November last year, 4 months into this government.

    I think there has been an improvement in resolving asylum applications.

    These are April 2024 figures, but showing signs of improvement even then.
    Given that I’m aware of a rape trial scheduled for 2027 (and I expect @DavidL will confirm similar delays) that rape trial feels prioritized
  • AugustusCarp2AugustusCarp2 Posts: 459
    OK, so let's assume (reasonably enough) that the Jezbollah/Sultana vehicle doesn't take off. They were polling some 10% of the vote before they were even established - what's going to happen to those (mainly young) voters now? Where do they go? Starmer's Labour Party? Polanski's Greens? Or just back into the woodwork, and on to social media, and continued irrelevance?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,225

    How can a party that doesn't exist implode?!

    SPLITTERS !!!
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,308
    eek said:

    eek said:

    rkrkrk said:

    carnforth said:

    So the migrant we returned to France was an Indian national. We have a returns agreement with India:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migration-and-mobility-partnership/mou-on-migration-and-mobility-partnership-between-india-and-the-united-kingdom#chapter-4

    So I wonder if there are special circumstances?

    The special circumstance is that they needed to find someone to return to France to get the ball rolling so they could say that they'd started.
    Starmer 1, Rwanda policy nil.

    I hadn't realised until I read on BBC that because people processed in France are already approved for asylum, we can also skip the stay in hotel while waiting for decision.
    The annoying bit is that I think most of us would accept 25,000 approved asylum seekers preferring the U.K. to France in exchange for reducing the incentive to come by boat by returning those who arrive by boat.

    Heck that’s probably the best solution, do a deal with France where we accept x0,000, even 100,000 of their asylum seekers and return anyone arriving here back to France and say please apply there

    The French could just wave through anyone applying and saying 'Royaume Uni S"Il Vous Plait' and we will have zero input into who comes here.
    Only works if we have immigration officials in France at the processing centre
    So given the choice of 50,000 arriving here by boat or trusting France to approve people, you would prefer 50,000 arriving by boat because you don’t trust the French?
    No i'd prefer neither situation. I certainly don't want to accept French jurisdiction over who gets asylum here.
    Its not a binary choice though
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,765
    eek said:

    eek said:

    rkrkrk said:

    carnforth said:

    So the migrant we returned to France was an Indian national. We have a returns agreement with India:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migration-and-mobility-partnership/mou-on-migration-and-mobility-partnership-between-india-and-the-united-kingdom#chapter-4

    So I wonder if there are special circumstances?

    The special circumstance is that they needed to find someone to return to France to get the ball rolling so they could say that they'd started.
    Starmer 1, Rwanda policy nil.

    I hadn't realised until I read on BBC that because people processed in France are already approved for asylum, we can also skip the stay in hotel while waiting for decision.
    The annoying bit is that I think most of us would accept 25,000 approved asylum seekers preferring the U.K. to France in exchange for reducing the incentive to come by boat by returning those who arrive by boat.

    Heck that’s probably the best solution, do a deal with France where we accept x0,000, even 100,000 of their asylum seekers and return anyone arriving here back to France and say please apply there

    The French could just wave through anyone applying and saying 'Royaume Uni S"Il Vous Plait' and we will have zero input into who comes here.
    Only works if we have immigration officials in France at the processing centre
    So given the choice of 50,000 arriving here by boat or trusting France to approve people, you would prefer 50,000 arriving by boat because you don’t trust the French?
    Neither, bring back the Rwanda scheme and deport all arrivals either to their home country or to a safe third country like Rwanda. Watch the arrivals stop within weeks.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 14,308

    OK, so let's assume (reasonably enough) that the Jezbollah/Sultana vehicle doesn't take off. They were polling some 10% of the vote before they were even established - what's going to happen to those (mainly young) voters now? Where do they go? Starmer's Labour Party? Polanski's Greens? Or just back into the woodwork, and on to social media, and continued irrelevance?

    Others are polling 4 or 5%, maybe 2 or 3 above trace levels in most current polling. They will remain as 'Gaza Indies' or disintegrate into noise if no fruits.
    However tge founding conference is booked and happening, one faction or the other will take it forward if no rapprochement
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 81,201
    This man is an idiot.

    Rep Wes Hunt (R-Texas) asked Kash Patel about Matthew Thomas Crooks who attempted to assassinate Trump in Butler.

    Patel says he’ll answer questions after the trial.

    Crooks was shot dead by the Secret Service on site.

    https://x.com/TheMaineWonk/status/1968418693932552689
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 67,265
    Press conference from Chequers live soon
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 20,047
    edited 1:52PM

    Looks like this a coup against the Geriatric and Gaza bros. Sultana gets to keep all the data and subscriptions and Corbyn and co will be locked out if they don't get on board

    Depends who you listen to. Sultana is claiming it's a counter-coup to stop the sexist boys club from concentrating control of all the data and money into the hands of a single woman: Karie Murphy.
    That name seems familiar from Corbynist history, but I forget the details.
    https://x.com/zarahsultana/status/1968672534087229592
  • LeonLeon Posts: 65,260
    Nigelb said:

    Interesting.

    As a neurosurgeon I care a lot about road safety.

    By now you’ve probably seen @Waymo ’s stunning safety results (like 91% fewer serious crashes). But they didn’t just publish data headlines. They released the raw CSV files and data dictionaries.
    I did a much deeper analysis. A fascinating story emerges when you analyze how they’re achieving this.

    This isn’t incremental improvement - it’s categorical. We’re looking at the potential elimination of traffic deaths as a leading cause of mortality.

    The intersection breakthrough: Waymo has essentially solved intersection crashes, with 95% fewer injury incidents than human drivers in the same locations. That’s transforming the deadliest driving scenario.

    The national math: If every US vehicle performed like Waymo, we’d prevent 33,000-39,000 deaths annually and save $0.9-1.25 trillion in societal costs. Even partial adoption at 27% would save ~10,000 lives per year. In terms of magnitude, this would be the equivalent of eliminating every pedestrian death nationally in a year.

    The physics signature: Here’s what fascinates me: 47% of Waymo’s contacts involve less than 1 mph delta-V. They’re not just avoiding crashes; they’re converting unavoidable incidents into gentle bumps. It’s like having physics itself on your side.

    We’re not talking about marginal safety gains. The data represents a fundamental shift from harm reduction to harm prevention.

    https://x.com/slotkinjr/status/1968381717934391309

    And this is why I've been saying, for years on PB, that human driven cars are finished
  • eekeek Posts: 31,329
    MaxPB said:

    eek said:

    eek said:

    rkrkrk said:

    carnforth said:

    So the migrant we returned to France was an Indian national. We have a returns agreement with India:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migration-and-mobility-partnership/mou-on-migration-and-mobility-partnership-between-india-and-the-united-kingdom#chapter-4

    So I wonder if there are special circumstances?

    The special circumstance is that they needed to find someone to return to France to get the ball rolling so they could say that they'd started.
    Starmer 1, Rwanda policy nil.

    I hadn't realised until I read on BBC that because people processed in France are already approved for asylum, we can also skip the stay in hotel while waiting for decision.
    The annoying bit is that I think most of us would accept 25,000 approved asylum seekers preferring the U.K. to France in exchange for reducing the incentive to come by boat by returning those who arrive by boat.

    Heck that’s probably the best solution, do a deal with France where we accept x0,000, even 100,000 of their asylum seekers and return anyone arriving here back to France and say please apply there

    The French could just wave through anyone applying and saying 'Royaume Uni S"Il Vous Plait' and we will have zero input into who comes here.
    Only works if we have immigration officials in France at the processing centre
    So given the choice of 50,000 arriving here by boat or trusting France to approve people, you would prefer 50,000 arriving by boat because you don’t trust the French?
    Neither, bring back the Rwanda scheme and deport all arrivals either to their home country or to a safe third country like Rwanda. Watch the arrivals stop within weeks.
    Did we send anyone to Rwanda and has Nigel got a country lined up that isn’t asking £1m a refugee
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,686

    How can a party that doesn't exist implode?!

    It's like something out of the further reaches of particle physics.
    Who knew that a stray sultana could cause fruitcakes to fall apart?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,808

    NEW THREAD

  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 40,765

    Nigelb said:

    Is NVidia looking to acquire its own domestic manufacturing capacity in the US ?

    Intel and NVIDIA to Jointly Develop AI Infrastructure and Personal Computing Products
    https://newsroom.intel.com/artificial-intelligence/intel-and-nvidia-to-jointly-develop-ai-infrastructure-and-personal-computing-products

    A very big deal for Intel, in any event.

    Makes sense. NVidia's CPU efforts are restricted to ARM compatible cores and have gone nowhere, Intel's graphics and AI products are little better. The money involved is big for Intel, but pocket change for Nvidia.

    Tile-based chip designs make it much easier to just drop in a GPU tile, integration becomes a packaging issue not a design one.

    It also demonstrates how terrified both Intel and NV are of AMD's Ryzen AI system-onna-chip designs. If AI does take off the way NV wants it to and PCs/laptops become primarily a way of running LLMs those big SoCs are the thing to have, but NV and Intel have nothing competitive and no near-term way of changing that.
    I think more importantly it puts downwards pressure on TSMC pricing if the Intel/Nvidia partnership is successful as it will push Apple, Qualcomm, AMD and others to consider Intel as a serious option for a fab partner where they currently don't. There were rumours last month that Apple and Nvidia were testing on 14A, I assume this deal with Nvidia will be for 14A wafers so I wonder whether Apple will also sign on the dotted line for 14A wafers, there were rumours that Apple were looking to bring some of their image processing in house rather than buy from Sony.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 40,225
    @hoffman_noa

    Zarah Sultana has now accused Corbyn of leading a "sexist boys' club" and "sidelining" her from official Your Party accounts

    So she went ahead and launched a membership portal, collecting fees along the way, without telling him

    And now there is a full-scale lefty war

    https://x.com/hoffman_noa/status/1968674235745792274
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 47,124
    MaxPB said:

    Nigelb said:

    Is NVidia looking to acquire its own domestic manufacturing capacity in the US ?

    Intel and NVIDIA to Jointly Develop AI Infrastructure and Personal Computing Products
    https://newsroom.intel.com/artificial-intelligence/intel-and-nvidia-to-jointly-develop-ai-infrastructure-and-personal-computing-products

    A very big deal for Intel, in any event.

    Makes sense. NVidia's CPU efforts are restricted to ARM compatible cores and have gone nowhere, Intel's graphics and AI products are little better. The money involved is big for Intel, but pocket change for Nvidia.

    Tile-based chip designs make it much easier to just drop in a GPU tile, integration becomes a packaging issue not a design one.

    It also demonstrates how terrified both Intel and NV are of AMD's Ryzen AI system-onna-chip designs. If AI does take off the way NV wants it to and PCs/laptops become primarily a way of running LLMs those big SoCs are the thing to have, but NV and Intel have nothing competitive and no near-term way of changing that.
    I think more importantly it puts downwards pressure on TSMC pricing if the Intel/Nvidia partnership is successful as it will push Apple, Qualcomm, AMD and others to consider Intel as a serious option for a fab partner where they currently don't. There were rumours last month that Apple and Nvidia were testing on 14A, I assume this deal with Nvidia will be for 14A wafers so I wonder whether Apple will also sign on the dotted line for 14A wafers, there were rumours that Apple were looking to bring some of their image processing in house rather than buy from Sony.
    It may change, but Intel has been a terrible partner for third-party chip designers in the past, when they've tried it. Their entire business model is against it, despite recentish attempts to implement an internal and external foundry model, and historically they did lots of (ahem) interesting things against the entire fabless semi model.

    From what I've heard, there's also a problem with tools: they need the likes of Cadence and Mentor/EDA to *publicly* support their processes, and will need to release lots of interesting info on their processes.

    Finally, it's the fact Intel continually muck up their newer processes. Until they fix that, they're screwed.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 52,840

    Scott_xP said:

    @hoffman_noa

    Sultana is suggesting Jeremy Corbyn is a “right wing bad faith actor”

    Meanwhile collecting direct debits from Your Party members, which Corbyn now taking legal advice about

    Unless she’s been hacked this is genuinely hilarious

    https://x.com/hoffman_noa/status/1968669711681425520

    LMAO agent Sultana has gone rogue
    It's all going to fall apart in infighting, before they pose any sort of electoral threat, isn't it?
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,803
    Indeed. In Trump's transactional world we must pay the price for him deigning to visit our humble little island.

    Pass the sick bag, Alice.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,976
    Foxy said:

    isam said:

    Everything that angers people about Asylum seekers in one horrible story;

    Convicted terrorist
    Staying in a 4 star hotel at our expense
    Sexual predator
    Pretend PTSD
    Wife and kids back in Turkey
    Not a genuine asylum seeker

    An Egyptian asylum seeker who was jailed for raping a woman in London's Hyde Park is a convicted Islamic terrorist, it has emerged.

    Abdelrahmen Adnan Abouelela, 42, was found guilty in his absence of being part of a bomb-making cell in Egypt and given a seven-year jail sentence on May 5, 2015.

    Abouelela, a member of the radical Muslim Brotherhood movement, escaped from Egypt before being convicted.


    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/hyde-park-rape-migrant-convicted-terrorist-5HjdDCW_2/

    Arrived April 2023, under the last government.

    Was this when Braverman was in charge of the Home Office.

    Shows that delays in processing are a big part of the problem.
    Whole process from sending out taxis for them to years in 4* hotels and then letting any tom dick or Harry stay and giving them houses , benefits etc etc and then let them pour extended families in. An idiot could not make it up.
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