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Yes, but this time I'm suggesting we just invite them instead of resisting.GeoffM said:
It's been tried a couple of times before.ThomasNashe said:
Not necessarily a popular view on here: but I think the answer to the problem of finding a viable govt for the UK after May would be best addressed by inviting her to run the UK alongside Germany.AndyJS said:After nearly 10 years in office, Angela Merkel's party has a lead in the polls of between 15 and 20 points:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_German_federal_election#Poll_results0 -
Best value is clearly the 5/1 for 6-10 gains . Look at the list of Lib Dem seats by marginality .peter_from_putney said:
A very ungenerous 42.5% overround from Betfair in pricing this market - small wonder their share price has doubled since it entered the world of fixed odds betting - but despite their apparent greed, what must seriously concern LibDems strategists is that in order to cover the two most fancied bands, i.e. 11-15 seats and 16-20 seats, Betfair will pay you measly odds of just 1/8 on your combined stake.isam said:Has this been discussed?
How many current Lib Dem seats will the Tories win at the GE?
11-15 5/4
16-20 5/4
21-25 5/1
6-10 5/1
1-5 14/1
26-30 15/1
31-35 33/1
None 33/1
Over 35 66
https://www.betfair.com/sport/politics
If they are right in sertting such short odds and the yellows are set to suffer other massive losses from both Labour and the SNP, then its definitely a case of 3 or 4 London Taxis being sufficient to convey their brood to and from Westminster after 7 May.
On that basis, Ladbrokes odds of 9/2 on them winning between 11 - 20 appears to offer far better value.
number 6 most vulnerable to the Conservatives is Sutton/Cheam which is a certain Lib Dem hold 9/10/11 are Cheadle North Cornwall and Eastbourne all probable Lib Dem holds so the result will be fewer than 10 so a saver on 1-5 may be in order0 -
"UKIP takes on school for using their photos to illustrate Holocaust slideshow
UKIP will lodge a formal complaint about “political indoctrination in schools” after a picture of its leader Nigel Farage was used during assemblies about the evils of the Holocaust":
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/555463/Ukip-takes-on-school-for-using-their-photos-to-illustrate-Holocaust-slideshow0 -
Do you mean we might be winning you back, Geoff?GeoffM said:
Indeed. The interventionist lefty nonsense creeping into UKIPs 2015 offering is very depressing for those of us who hoped for a real blossoming of the fresh libertarian ideas of 2010. It's not too late but the direction of policy flow isn't positive for me right now.TCPoliticalBetting said:
It might be good, but we have to see how much socialism is in your manifesto and how many socialist get in under the UKIP MP banner.MikeK said:Scott_P said:
@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
By golly! A Tory - UKIP coalition. Huzzah!!!!!!!!!!!
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We did that in 1688, but then it was Parliament that was far-sighted enough to take the drastic action required.ThomasNashe said:
Yes, but this time I'm suggesting we just invite them instead of resisting.GeoffM said:
It's been tried a couple of times before.ThomasNashe said:
Not necessarily a popular view on here: but I think the answer to the problem of finding a viable govt for the UK after May would be best addressed by inviting her to run the UK alongside Germany.AndyJS said:After nearly 10 years in office, Angela Merkel's party has a lead in the polls of between 15 and 20 points:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_German_federal_election#Poll_results
Who is going to issue the invitation this time?0 -
GeoffM UKIP still wants deeper spending cuts than the Coalition, an end to ringfencing overseas aid and maybe even the NHS based on Farage's comments and to cut the top tax rate back to 40p0
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Beware that this does not lead to a Liberal miracle of the taxis...peter_from_putney said:
A very ungenerous 42.5% overround from Betfair in pricing this market - small wonder their share price has doubled since it entered the world of fixed odds betting - but despite their apparent greed, what must seriously concern LibDems strategists is that in order to cover the two most fancied bands, i.e. 11-15 seats and 16-20 seats, Betfair will pay you measly odds of just 1/8 on your combined stake.isam said:Has this been discussed?
How many current Lib Dem seats will the Tories win at the GE?
11-15 5/4
16-20 5/4
21-25 5/1
6-10 5/1
1-5 14/1
26-30 15/1
31-35 33/1
None 33/1
Over 35 66
https://www.betfair.com/sport/politics
If they are right in sertting such short odds and the yellows are set to suffer other massive losses from both Labour and the SNP, then its definitely a case of 3 or 4 London Taxis being sufficient to convey their brood to and from Westminster after 7 May.
On that basis, Ladbrokes odds of 9/2 on them winning between 11 - 20 appears to offer far better value.0 -
Cool, UKIP can look after taxi driver uniforms and railway livery, while the Tories get on with everything else.MikeK said:Scott_P said:
@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
By golly! A Tory - UKIP coalition. Huzzah!!!!!!!!!!!0 -
The Financial Times usually.Tykejohnno said:
What paper do you read ?justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
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You support an Indy Scotland because it will result in penury?TCPoliticalBetting said:Still, independence and penury suits some. (Written by a supporter of an Indy Scotland).
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Maybe they are trying to identify your average Labour voter? Understanding the difference between reading and comprehension is above the whit or wit of your average media/Nat clown progressive ....AndyJS said:A bit astonished by the announcement that 11 year olds will have to be able to do their 12 times tables and read a book.
They ought to be able to do both by the age of 7 or 8.0 -
No Conservative pact with UKIP, says David CameronTCPoliticalBetting said:
It might be good, but we have to see how much socialism is in your manifesto and how many socialist get in under the UKIP MP banner.MikeK said:Scott_P said:
@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
By golly! A Tory - UKIP coalition. Huzzah!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27533313
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@SouthamObserver
"So what do the 10 million people who live in London do while those who commute in do all the work?"
Some of them work, some of them do not. But clearly the economy of London benefits hugely from the efforts of the millions of commuters from Essex, Surrey and the other home counties. It's absurd to deprive the region of south east England of its economic engine. They wouldn't dare carve off Leeds and Sheffield from Yorkshire. But of course, it's one rule for the left wing parts of the country and another for the south.0 -
I am genuinely undecided right now. The anti-encryption lunacy the other week had me sobbing into my Conservative cornflakes but some UKIP announcements since Christmas have been positively old-Labour.peter_from_putney said:
Do you mean we might be winning you back, Geoff?GeoffM said:
Indeed. The interventionist lefty nonsense creeping into UKIPs 2015 offering is very depressing for those of us who hoped for a real blossoming of the fresh libertarian ideas of 2010. It's not too late but the direction of policy flow isn't positive for me right now.TCPoliticalBetting said:
It might be good, but we have to see how much socialism is in your manifesto and how many socialist get in under the UKIP MP banner.MikeK said:Scott_P said:
@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
By golly! A Tory - UKIP coalition. Huzzah!!!!!!!!!!!
My house in the UK is in a fairly safe Conservative seat though so I don't think anyone is hugely bothered about my vote.
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The people have forfeited the confidence of the Labour leadership and can only regain it through redoubled efforts.SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
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Expressing shock at the scale of immigration is not a "biggoted" (sic) comment under any logical definition.SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
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William of Orange was not German, he was Dutch.OblitusSumMe said:
We did that in 1688, but then it was Parliament that was far-sighted enough to take the drastic action required.ThomasNashe said:
Yes, but this time I'm suggesting we just invite them instead of resisting.GeoffM said:
It's been tried a couple of times before.ThomasNashe said:
Not necessarily a popular view on here: but I think the answer to the problem of finding a viable govt for the UK after May would be best addressed by inviting her to run the UK alongside Germany.AndyJS said:After nearly 10 years in office, Angela Merkel's party has a lead in the polls of between 15 and 20 points:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_German_federal_election#Poll_results
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In terms of objective value for money, I wouldn't argue with that. especially as Laddies are paying only 2/1 against 31-40- LD seats.MarkSenior said:
Best value is clearly the 5/1 for 6-10 gains . Look at the list of Lib Dem seats by marginality .peter_from_putney said:
A very ungenerous 42.5% overround from Betfair in pricing this market - small wonder their share price has doubled since it entered the world of fixed odds betting - but despite their apparent greed, what must seriously concern LibDems strategists is that in order to cover the two most fancied bands, i.e. 11-15 seats and 16-20 seats, Betfair will pay you measly odds of just 1/8 on your combined stake.isam said:Has this been discussed?
How many current Lib Dem seats will the Tories win at the GE?
11-15 5/4
16-20 5/4
21-25 5/1
6-10 5/1
1-5 14/1
26-30 15/1
31-35 33/1
None 33/1
Over 35 66
https://www.betfair.com/sport/politics
If they are right in sertting such short odds and the yellows are set to suffer other massive losses from both Labour and the SNP, then its definitely a case of 3 or 4 London Taxis being sufficient to convey their brood to and from Westminster after 7 May.
On that basis, Ladbrokes odds of 9/2 on them winning between 11 - 20 appears to offer far better value.
number 6 most vulnerable to the Conservatives is Sutton/Cheam which is a certain Lib Dem hold 9/10/11 are Cheadle North Cornwall and Eastbourne all probable Lib Dem holds so the result will be fewer than 10 so a saver on 1-5 may be in order0 -
I reckon the share price going up us more to do with the insanely unfair 40% premium charge levelled at any big winners... The effect of a monopoly/closed shoppeter_from_putney said:
A very ungenerous 42.5% overround from Betfair in pricing this market - small wonder their share price has doubled since it entered the world of fixed odds betting - but despite their apparent greed, what must seriously concern LibDems strategists is that in order to cover the two most fancied bands, i.e. 11-15 seats and 16-20 seats, Betfair will pay you measly odds of just 1/8 on your combined stake.isam said:Has this been discussed?
How many current Lib Dem seats will the Tories win at the GE?
11-15 5/4
16-20 5/4
21-25 5/1
6-10 5/1
1-5 14/1
26-30 15/1
31-35 33/1
None 33/1
Over 35 66
https://www.betfair.com/sport/politics
If they are right in sertting such short odds and the yellows are set to suffer other massive losses from both Labour and the SNP, then its definitely a case of 3 or 4 London Taxis being sufficient to convey their brood to and from Westminster after 7 May.
On that basis, Ladbrokes odds of 9/2 on them winning between 11 - 20 appears to offer far better value.0 -
I don't think the Parliamentary arithmetic would favour such an arrangement. If it did, I imagine some kind of deal would be struck.logical_song said:
No Conservative pact with UKIP, says David CameronTCPoliticalBetting said:
It might be good, but we have to see how much socialism is in your manifesto and how many socialist get in under the UKIP MP banner.MikeK said:Scott_P said:
@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
By golly! A Tory - UKIP coalition. Huzzah!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27533313
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29409393
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Do you have any manners in your adult brain or remote sense of common decency???FluffyThoughts said:
Maybe they are trying to identify your average Labour voter? Understanding the difference between reading and comprehension is above the whit or wit of your average media/Nat clown progressive ....AndyJS said:A bit astonished by the announcement that 11 year olds will have to be able to do their 12 times tables and read a book.
They ought to be able to do both by the age of 7 or 8.
Why are you here and why are so rude and immature.
If you have nothing nice to say say nothing at all. Grow up and be a responsible classy adult.
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Boosting spending to avoid or escape recession is a more noble cause. Ask the Greeks how austerity is working out.Charles said:
Growth achieved by pulling forward capital expenditure from the next two years.DecrepitJohnL said:
That golden inheritance being based on the complete collapse of Conservative economic policy and a mountain of debt. Don't forget Cameron inhereited a growing (or recovering, if you prefer) economy too until Osborne got his hands on it.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. 565, not sure that's a fair comparison. Blair had a golden economic inheritance, whereas the Coalition inherited a disaster and the situation is still bloody awful.
It's easy to do, but it causes a real problem for the guy responsible for the next years budget. In my sector we call it "channel stuffing" and it is heavily heavily frowned on by investors.0 -
You don't know what socialism is.TCPoliticalBetting said:
It might be good, but we have to see how much socialism is in your manifesto and how many socialist get in under the UKIP MP banner.MikeK said:Scott_P said:
@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
By golly! A Tory - UKIP coalition. Huzzah!!!!!!!!!!!
God your so immature and misinformed. You need a hobby. How about a socialism course in 1930s USSR.
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Indeed - none of which are anything like as radical as I would like. I have always been a strong supporter of a flat rate of tax, for example. When UKIP offered that I was enthusiastic. I want to see healthcare delivered privately by insurance. I want to see, to pick another of your examples, charity returned to real charities instead of politically weaponised groups of taxpayer subsidised lefty lobbying businesses like Oxfam who have merged seamlessly with a compliant ministry.HYUFD said:GeoffM UKIP still wants deeper spending cuts than the Coalition, an end to ringfencing overseas aid and maybe even the NHS based on Farage's comments and to cut the top tax rate back to 40p
Nobody offers me any of these things and I am realistic enough to know that nobody will. So my vote will be a dirty compromise.0 -
It's the other way around: Farage has always said no pact with Cameron.logical_song said:
No Conservative pact with UKIP, says David CameronTCPoliticalBetting said:
It might be good, but we have to see how much socialism is in your manifesto and how many socialist get in under the UKIP MP banner.MikeK said:Scott_P said:
@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
By golly! A Tory - UKIP coalition. Huzzah!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27533313
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29409393
And now I must away to my luncheon.0 -
Any chance we can have a negative Tory thread? Or doesn't that not fit into the political betting business model?0
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Indeed - many conservatives have been quite open that they are desperate for such a pact, and blaming Cameron for being too proud to do it, even though Farage closed the door on that one some time ago.MikeK said:
It's the other way around: Farage has always said no pact with Cameron.logical_song said:
No Conservative pact with UKIP, says David CameronTCPoliticalBetting said:
It might be good, but we have to see how much socialism is in your manifesto and how many socialist get in under the UKIP MP banner.MikeK said:Scott_P said:
@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
By golly! A Tory - UKIP coalition. Huzzah!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27533313
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-294093930 -
Well since he didn't, Labour for one cannot really officially claim he should have - if the person who made the comments says those comments were wrong, anyone even reasonably defending them is thoroughly undermined, meaning the comments she made are effectively unchallengeable even if someone wanted to.SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
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You do realise most threads are negative about the prospects of the Tories?PokerSNGpro said:Any chance we can have a negative Tory thread? Or doesn't that not fit into the political betting business model?
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'Where are they all flocking from' she said. If you can't see what is wrong with that, then there is no point trying to discuss it any further.Socrates said:
Expressing shock at the scale of immigration is not a "biggoted" (sic) comment under any logical definition.SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
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Sunil's "Super-ELBOW" for January 2015 - 42 polls with fieldwork end-dates 1st Jan to 31st Jan, with a total wighted sample of 48,569:
Lab 33.2 (-0.5)
Con 32.2 (+0.2)
UKIP 15.2 (-0.3)
LD 7.3 (-0.1)
Green 6.5 (+0.5)
Lab lead 1.0 (-0.7)0 -
Excellent news, she comes over very well in person and on TV, with the right mixture of passion and ability to communicate.Scott_P said:@TelePolitics: Blairite MP Liz Kendall emerges as favourite in Labour leadership stakes http://t.co/5VbE0gV1qk
She is also untainted by the last Labour government. I backed her when 50/1, and tipped it here.
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I doubt she was implying they are sheep.SandyRentool said:
'Where are they all flocking from' she said. If you can't see what is wrong with that, then there is no point trying to discuss it any further.Socrates said:
Expressing shock at the scale of immigration is not a "biggoted" (sic) comment under any logical definition.SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
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Socialism is no great mystery.PokerSNGpro said:
You don't know what socialism is.TCPoliticalBetting said:
It might be good, but we have to see how much socialism is in your manifesto and how many socialist get in under the UKIP MP banner.MikeK said:Scott_P said:
@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
By golly! A Tory - UKIP coalition. Huzzah!!!!!!!!!!!
God your so immature and misinformed. You need a hobby. How about a socialism course in 1930s USSR.
It's about about crippling your economy, destroying individual choice, repressing dissent, and killing your own citizens in specially designed camps.0 -
isam said:
I reckon the share price going up us more to do with the insanely unfair 40% premium charge levelled at any big winners... The effect of a monopoly/closed shoppeter_from_putney said:
A very ungenerous 42.5% overround from Betfair in pricing this market - small wonder their share price has doubled since it entered the world of fixed odds betting - but despite their apparent greed, what must seriously concern LibDems strategists is that in order to cover the two most fancied bands, i.e. 11-15 seats and 16-20 seats, Betfair will pay you measly odds of just 1/8 on your combined stake.isam said:Has this been discussed?
How many current Lib Dem seats will the Tories win at the GE?
11-15 5/4
16-20 5/4
21-25 5/1
6-10 5/1
1-5 14/1
26-30 15/1
31-35 33/1
None 33/1
Over 35 66
https://www.betfair.com/sport/politics
If they are right in sertting such short odds and the yellows are set to suffer other massive losses from both Labour and the SNP, then its definitely a case of 3 or 4 London Taxis being sufficient to convey their brood to and from Westminster after 7 May.
On that basis, Ladbrokes odds of 9/2 on them winning between 11 - 20 appears to offer far better value.
I am curious about this big charge. How does it work?isam said:
I reckon the share price going up us more to do with the insanely unfair 40% premium charge levelled at any big winners... The effect of a monopoly/closed shoppeter_from_putney said:
A very ungenerous 42.5% overround from Betfair in pricing this market - small wonder their share price has doubled since it entered the world of fixed odds betting - but despite their apparent greed, what must seriously concern LibDems strategists is that in order to cover the two most fancied bands, i.e. 11-15 seats and 16-20 seats, Betfair will pay you measly odds of just 1/8 on your combined stake.isam said:Has this been discussed?
How many current Lib Dem seats will the Tories win at the GE?
11-15 5/4
16-20 5/4
21-25 5/1
6-10 5/1
1-5 14/1
26-30 15/1
31-35 33/1
None 33/1
Over 35 66
https://www.betfair.com/sport/politics
If they are right in sertting such short odds and the yellows are set to suffer other massive losses from both Labour and the SNP, then its definitely a case of 3 or 4 London Taxis being sufficient to convey their brood to and from Westminster after 7 May.
On that basis, Ladbrokes odds of 9/2 on them winning between 11 - 20 appears to offer far better value.0 -
I would support the covering of all costs associated with A&E admissions due to alcohol and drugs. If it was £500 it could be paid in one go or in monthly installments. I think people need to start being more responsible with the lifestyles which they are living and it is wrong to expect the NHS to look after everyone no matter how poorly they look after themselves.TCPoliticalBetting said:
It looks like a fudge. Probably best to hope that the new NHS CEO is as good as Conservative and Labour think and let him get on and run it. Personally I think a small charge at the front ends such as personal presentation at A&E would reduce the pressures there. Such as £20 if not referred to by a doctor or brought in under "emergency" categories. The ambulance service seems able to seperate emergencies from the rest of work. For young working folk a £20 fee maybe better than the GP wait. Also charge £20 for visits while drunk.OblitusSumMe said:
So the question is: Are they so bad that it is worth running the risk and paying the cost of yet another reorganisation, or is it better to just leave alone and let the frontline staff get on with it?TCPoliticalBetting said:
It does look that way. But these were modified plans with LD fingers all over them. It became something designed by a committee with Letwin's input.... Enough said?roserees64 said:Seems that the Tories,like Labour have a problem with ex.ministers speaking out.Stephen Dorrell,Tory ex.minister has stated that Lansley's health reforms are 'the biggest mistake in this parliament.' I have to agree with him.
I don't honestly have the faintest idea.
Does anyone know which polling company came closest to predicting UKIP's share of the vote in the last EU elections?
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1. There aren't 2 G's in bigoted - so much for NuLab educashun!SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
2. Her comment wasn't bigoted.
3. GB lacked to guts to criticize her to her face.
4. Labour are still the nasty party when it comes to their base.0 -
Interesting how all of the positives that you see in her are PR related and nothing to do with what policies might or might not be clicking between her ears.foxinsoxuk said:
Excellent news, she comes over very well in person and on TV, with the right mixture of passion and ability to communicate.Scott_P said:@TelePolitics: Blairite MP Liz Kendall emerges as favourite in Labour leadership stakes http://t.co/5VbE0gV1qk
She is also untainted by the last Labour government. I backed her when 50/1, and tipped it here.
(plus your betting position - and as a fellow punter I wish you good luck with that)
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It's quite complicated but more or less, when you start making more than 250k a year they take 40% of your net winningsfoxinsoxuk said:isam said:
I reckon the share price going up us more to do with the insanely unfair 40% premium charge levelled at any big winners... The effect of a monopoly/closed shoppeter_from_putney said:
A very ungenerous 42.5% overround from Betfair in pricing this market - small wonder their share price has doubled since it entered the world of fixed odds betting - but despite their apparent greed, what must seriously concern LibDems strategists is that in order to cover the two most fancied bands, i.e. 11-15 seats and 16-20 seats, Betfair will pay you measly odds of just 1/8 on your combined stake.isam said:Has this been discussed?
How many current Lib Dem seats will the Tories win at the GE?
11-15 5/4
16-20 5/4
21-25 5/1
6-10 5/1
1-5 14/1
26-30 15/1
31-35 33/1
None 33/1
Over 35 66
https://www.betfair.com/sport/politics
If they are right in sertting such short odds and the yellows are set to suffer other massive losses from both Labour and the SNP, then its definitely a case of 3 or 4 London Taxis being sufficient to convey their brood to and from Westminster after 7 May.
On that basis, Ladbrokes odds of 9/2 on them winning between 11 - 20 appears to offer far better value.
I am curious about this big charge. How does it work?isam said:
I reckon the share price going up us more to do with the insanely unfair 40% premium charge levelled at any big winners... The effect of a monopoly/closed shoppeter_from_putney said:
A l pay you measly odds of just 1/8 on your combined stake.isam said:Has this been discussed?
How many current Lib Dem seats will the Tories win at the GE?
11-15 5/4
16-20 5/4
21-25 5/1
6-10 5/1
1-5 14/1
26-30 15/1
31-35 33/1
None 33/1
Over 35 66
https://www.betfair.com/sport/politics
If they are right in sertting such short odds and the yellows are set to suffer other massive losses from both Labour and the SNP, then its definitely a case of 3 or 4 London Taxis being sufficient to convey their brood to and from Westminster after 7 May.
On that basis, Ladbrokes odds of 9/2 on them winning between 11 - 20 appears to offer far better value.
I don't make that much, but people I work with do so I end up paying it
When I first heard it suggested I honestly thought it a wind up, but as they have no competition they can do what they like0 -
You are right there is clearly no value in discussing it because you are so blinkered and see any comment that even questions the value of mass immigration as being bigoted. Thankfully you are very much in an ill informed minority with that view.SandyRentool said:
'Where are they all flocking from' she said. If you can't see what is wrong with that, then there is no point trying to discuss it any further.Socrates said:
Expressing shock at the scale of immigration is not a "biggoted" (sic) comment under any logical definition.SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
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Never mind about that ..... persuade Casino to follow you back into the Tory fold and I'll concede six First ..... again!s to you. Now I can't say fairer than that.GeoffM said:
I am genuinely undecided right now. The anti-encryption lunacy the other week had me sobbing into my Conservative cornflakes but some UKIP announcements since Christmas have been positively old-Labour.peter_from_putney said:
Do you mean we might be winning you back, Geoff?GeoffM said:
Indeed. The interventionist lefty nonsense creeping into UKIPs 2015 offering is very depressing for those of us who hoped for a real blossoming of the fresh libertarian ideas of 2010. It's not too late but the direction of policy flow isn't positive for me right now.TCPoliticalBetting said:
It might be good, but we have to see how much socialism is in your manifesto and how many socialist get in under the UKIP MP banner.MikeK said:Scott_P said:
@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
By golly! A Tory - UKIP coalition. Huzzah!!!!!!!!!!!
My house in the UK is in a fairly safe Conservative seat though so I don't think anyone is hugely bothered about my vote.0 -
It's not a lefty plot, Socrates. Leeds and Sheffield are in Yorkshire. London is not in Surrey or Essex. It has been recognised as a distinct regional and political entity for decades (centuries?). Currently London has a Tory mayor.Socrates said:@SouthamObserver
"So what do the 10 million people who live in London do while those who commute in do all the work?"
Some of them work, some of them do not. But clearly the economy of London benefits hugely from the efforts of the millions of commuters from Essex, Surrey and the other home counties. It's absurd to deprive the region of south east England of its economic engine. They wouldn't dare carve off Leeds and Sheffield from Yorkshire. But of course, it's one rule for the left wing parts of the country and another for the south.
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She is a Leicester MP, so I have seen her speak on a number of occasions. She also holds the Health brief for long term conditions, something that I follow.GeoffM said:
Interesting how all of the positives that you see in her are PR related and nothing to do with what policies might or might not be clicking between her ears.foxinsoxuk said:
Excellent news, she comes over very well in person and on TV, with the right mixture of passion and ability to communicate.Scott_P said:@TelePolitics: Blairite MP Liz Kendall emerges as favourite in Labour leadership stakes http://t.co/5VbE0gV1qk
She is also untainted by the last Labour government. I backed her when 50/1, and tipped it here.
(plus your betting position - and as a fellow punter I wish you good luck with that)
She is a centrist candidate, but not a rent-a-clone empty suit. It is what Labour needs.0 -
All A&E admissions could be covered under personal insurance - with that insurance not paying out under certain admission criteria including the conditions you cite.MP_SE said:
I would support the covering of all costs associated with A&E admissions due to alcohol and drugs. If it was £500 it could be paid in one go or in monthly installments. I think people need to start being more responsible with the lifestyles which they are living and it is wrong to expect the NHS to look after everyone no matter how poorly they look after themselves.TCPoliticalBetting said:
It looks like a fudge. Probably best to hope that the new NHS CEO is as good as Conservative and Labour think and let him get on and run it. Personally I think a small charge at the front ends such as personal presentation at A&E would reduce the pressures there. Such as £20 if not referred to by a doctor or brought in under "emergency" categories. The ambulance service seems able to seperate emergencies from the rest of work. For young working folk a £20 fee maybe better than the GP wait. Also charge £20 for visits while drunk.OblitusSumMe said:
So the question is: Are they so bad that it is worth running the risk and paying the cost of yet another reorganisation, or is it better to just leave alone and let the frontline staff get on with it?TCPoliticalBetting said:
It does look that way. But these were modified plans with LD fingers all over them. It became something designed by a committee with Letwin's input.... Enough said?roserees64 said:Seems that the Tories,like Labour have a problem with ex.ministers speaking out.Stephen Dorrell,Tory ex.minister has stated that Lansley's health reforms are 'the biggest mistake in this parliament.' I have to agree with him.
I don't honestly have the faintest idea.
Does anyone know which polling company came closest to predicting UKIP's share of the vote in the last EU elections?
Shop around and get the coverage you prefer. Some policies would probably cover alcohol related admissions with a premium set appropriately.
The savings achieved are passed on to the taxpayer by a tax cut so for the average slightly unhealthy slightly accident-prone individual it's revenue neutral.
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I do love a badly spelled snarky spelling comment.felix said:
1. There aren't 2 G's in bigoted - so much for NuLab educashun!SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
2. Her comment wasn't bigoted.
3. GB lacked to guts to criticize her to her face.
4. Labour are still the nasty party when it comes to their base.
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No risk of me getting that surcharge the, my total at risk/potential winnings in the election (and football) come to three rather than six figures.isam said:
It's quite complicated but more or less, when you start making more than 250k a year they take 40% of your net winningsfoxinsoxuk said:isam said:
I reckon the share price going up us more to do with the insanely unfair 40% premium charge levelled at any big winners... The effect of a monopoly/closed shoppeter_from_putney said:
A .isam said:Has this been discussed?
How many current Lib Dem seats will the Tories win at the GE?
11-15 5/4
16-20 5/4
21-25 5/1
6-10 5/1
1-5 14/1
26-30 15/1
31-35 33/1
None 33/1
Over 35 66
https://www.betfair.com/sport/politics
I am curious about this big charge. How does it work?isam said:
I reckon the share price going up us more to do with the insanely unfair 40% premium charge levelled at any big winners... The effect of a monopoly/closed shoppeter_from_putney said:
A l pay you measly odds of just 1/8 on your combined stake.isam said:Has this been discussed?
Over 35 66
https://www.betfair.com/sport/politics
If they are right in sertting such short odds and the yellows are set to suffer other massive losses from both Labour and the SNP, then its definitely a case of 3 or 4 London Taxis being sufficient to convey their brood to and from Westminster after 7 May.
On that basis, Ladbrokes odds of 9/2 on them winning between 11 - 20 appears to offer far better value.
I don't make that much, but people I work with do so I end up paying it
When I first heard it suggested I honestly thought it a wind up, but as they have no competition they can do what they like0 -
Err - where is the spelling error above Mr. SarcasmObserver?SouthamObserver said:
I do love a badly spelled snarky spelling comment.felix said:
1. There aren't 2 G's in bigoted - so much for NuLab educashun!SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
2. Her comment wasn't bigoted.
3. GB lacked to guts to criticize her to her face.
4. Labour are still the nasty party when it comes to their base.0 -
"I reckon the share price going up us more to do with the insanely unfair 40% premium charge levelled at any big winners... The effect of a monopoly/closed shop
I am curious about this big charge. How does it work?
It's quite complicated but more or less, when you start making more than 250k a year they take 40% of your net winnings
I don't make that much, but people I work with do so I end up paying it
When I first heard it suggested I honestly thought it a wind up, but as they have no competition they can do what they like."
I must admit I hadn't heard about this form of Betfair "surtax" either. Is it actually in their published terms and conditions or is it something one only becomes aware of (I should be so lucky) when one hits that £250K ceiling?0 -
Just watched Salmond's interview on Murnaghan in the snow from Aberdeen - I was watching the tennis live.
Textbook example of how to conduct interview to maximum effect. He will be major factor come the election.
Meanwhile wee Douglas looked like the guy who stabbed his own sister in the back when she was in Murphy's job.0 -
Pleasant enough, wears massive heels and for inbetweeners fans, she is apparently hooked up with Mr Gilbert.foxinsoxuk said:
She is a Leicester MP, so I have seen her speak on a number of occasions. She also holds the Health brief for long term conditions, something that I follow.GeoffM said:
Interesting how all of the positives that you see in her are PR related and nothing to do with what policies might or might not be clicking between her ears.foxinsoxuk said:
Excellent news, she comes over very well in person and on TV, with the right mixture of passion and ability to communicate.Scott_P said:@TelePolitics: Blairite MP Liz Kendall emerges as favourite in Labour leadership stakes http://t.co/5VbE0gV1qk
She is also untainted by the last Labour government. I backed her when 50/1, and tipped it here.
(plus your betting position - and as a fellow punter I wish you good luck with that)
She is a centrist candidate, but not a rent-a-clone empty suit. It is what Labour needs.0 -
See 3. Unless your problem is English grammar your first to should be spelled the.felix said:
Err - where is the spelling error above Mr. SarcasmObserver?SouthamObserver said:
I do love a badly spelled snarky spelling comment.felix said:
1. There aren't 2 G's in bigoted - so much for NuLab educashun!SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
2. Her comment wasn't bigoted.
3. GB lacked to guts to criticize her to her face.
4. Labour are still the nasty party when it comes to their base.
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That's also interesting, thanks. The general public don't get to see the depth of people with special interests in common so you have the advantage over us there.foxinsoxuk said:
She is a Leicester MP, so I have seen her speak on a number of occasions. She also holds the Health brief for long term conditions, something that I follow.GeoffM said:
Interesting how all of the positives that you see in her are PR related and nothing to do with what policies might or might not be clicking between her ears.foxinsoxuk said:
Excellent news, she comes over very well in person and on TV, with the right mixture of passion and ability to communicate.Scott_P said:@TelePolitics: Blairite MP Liz Kendall emerges as favourite in Labour leadership stakes http://t.co/5VbE0gV1qk
She is also untainted by the last Labour government. I backed her when 50/1, and tipped it here.
(plus your betting position - and as a fellow punter I wish you good luck with that)
She is a centrist candidate, but not a rent-a-clone empty suit. It is what Labour needs.
I picked up on the way you phrased your comment with a certain sadness because of the obvious political trend in more media-aware countries since WW2 towards outwardly articulate, empathetic and presentable candidates with less regard for intellectual vigour. Except Ed, obviously, who lacks all of those things.0 -
G's doesn't need the apostrophe which should only be used for possessives. In addition you have "to" for "the" and I would argue you should say Labour is, not Labour are (although many people wouldn't). But let's see what Southam pulls you up on...felix said:
Err - where is the spelling error above Mr. SarcasmObserver?SouthamObserver said:
I do love a badly spelled snarky spelling comment.felix said:
1. There aren't 2 G's in bigoted - so much for NuLab educashun!SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
2. Her comment wasn't bigoted.
3. GB lacked to guts to criticize her to her face.
4. Labour are still the nasty party when it comes to their base.
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So the error was not spelling - apology accepted.SouthamObserver said:
See 3. Unless your problem is English grammar your first to should be spelled the.felix said:
Err - where is the spelling error above Mr. SarcasmObserver?SouthamObserver said:
I do love a badly spelled snarky spelling comment.felix said:
1. There aren't 2 G's in bigoted - so much for NuLab educashun!SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
2. Her comment wasn't bigoted.
3. GB lacked to guts to criticize her to her face.
4. Labour are still the nasty party when it comes to their base.0 -
Your model assumes no funds are absorbed by increased bureaucracy at hospitals or insurance companies. Most insurance-based health services comparable to the NHS are more expensive for this reason.GeoffM said:
All A&E admissions could be covered under personal insurance - with that insurance not paying out under certain admission criteria including the conditions you cite.MP_SE said:
I would support the covering of all costs associated with A&E admissions due to alcohol and drugs. If it was £500 it could be paid in one go or in monthly installments. I think people need to start being more responsible with the lifestyles which they are living and it is wrong to expect the NHS to look after everyone no matter how poorly they look after themselves.TCPoliticalBetting said:
It looks like a fudge. Probably best to hope that the new NHS CEO is as good as Conservative and Labour think and let him get on and run it. Personally I think a small charge at the front ends such as personal presentation at A&E would reduce the pressures there. Such as £20 if not referred to by a doctor or brought in under "emergency" categories. The ambulance service seems able to seperate emergencies from the rest of work. For young working folk a £20 fee maybe better than the GP wait. Also charge £20 for visits while drunk.OblitusSumMe said:
So the question is: Are they so bad that it is worth running the risk and paying the cost of yet another reorganisation, or is it better to just leave alone and let the frontline staff get on with it?TCPoliticalBetting said:
It does look that way. But these were modified plans with LD fingers all over them. It became something designed by a committee with Letwin's input.... Enough said?roserees64 said:Seems that the Tories,like Labour have a problem with ex.ministers speaking out.Stephen Dorrell,Tory ex.minister has stated that Lansley's health reforms are 'the biggest mistake in this parliament.' I have to agree with him.
I don't honestly have the faintest idea.
Does anyone know which polling company came closest to predicting UKIP's share of the vote in the last EU elections?
Shop around and get the coverage you prefer. Some policies would probably cover alcohol related admissions with a premium set appropriately.
The savings achieved are passed on to the taxpayer by a tax cut so for the average slightly unhealthy slightly accident-prone individual it's revenue neutral.0 -
Only for just over 100 years. Before that, apart from the City, it was divided between the counties of Essex, Kent, Surrey and Middlesex.SouthamObserver said:
It's not a lefty plot, Socrates. Leeds and Sheffield are in Yorkshire. London is not in Surrey or Essex. It has been recognised as a distinct regional and political entity for decades (centuries?).Socrates said:@SouthamObserver
"So what do the 10 million people who live in London do while those who commute in do all the work?"
Some of them work, some of them do not. But clearly the economy of London benefits hugely from the efforts of the millions of commuters from Essex, Surrey and the other home counties. It's absurd to deprive the region of south east England of its economic engine. They wouldn't dare carve off Leeds and Sheffield from Yorkshire. But of course, it's one rule for the left wing parts of the country and another for the south.0 -
Indeed. So, no lefty plot anywhere to be seen.JohnLilburne said:
Only for just over 100 years. Before that, apart from the City, it was divided between the counties of Essex, Kent, Surrey and Middlesex.SouthamObserver said:
It's not a lefty plot, Socrates. Leeds and Sheffield are in Yorkshire. London is not in Surrey or Essex. It has been recognised as a distinct regional and political entity for decades (centuries?).Socrates said:@SouthamObserver
"So what do the 10 million people who live in London do while those who commute in do all the work?"
Some of them work, some of them do not. But clearly the economy of London benefits hugely from the efforts of the millions of commuters from Essex, Surrey and the other home counties. It's absurd to deprive the region of south east England of its economic engine. They wouldn't dare carve off Leeds and Sheffield from Yorkshire. But of course, it's one rule for the left wing parts of the country and another for the south.
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It does demonstrate some of the idiocy of dividing England into regions. The current South East region includes places as far away from each other as Oxford, Southampton and Dover, with London in the middle but somehow not part of it. It would IMO be better to have a region made up of London and the adjacent counties, if you want to have such things.JohnLilburne said:
Only for just over 100 years. Before that, apart from the City, it was divided between the counties of Essex, Kent, Surrey and Middlesex.SouthamObserver said:
It's not a lefty plot, Socrates. Leeds and Sheffield are in Yorkshire. London is not in Surrey or Essex. It has been recognised as a distinct regional and political entity for decades (centuries?).Socrates said:@SouthamObserver
"So what do the 10 million people who live in London do while those who commute in do all the work?"
Some of them work, some of them do not. But clearly the economy of London benefits hugely from the efforts of the millions of commuters from Essex, Surrey and the other home counties. It's absurd to deprive the region of south east England of its economic engine. They wouldn't dare carve off Leeds and Sheffield from Yorkshire. But of course, it's one rule for the left wing parts of the country and another for the south.
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So you meant to write "to", did you? I fear you're fibbing, but if not I am happy to apologise and will instead agree with you that you are illiterate.felix said:
So the error was not spelling - apology accepted.SouthamObserver said:
See 3. Unless your problem is English grammar your first to should be spelled the.felix said:
Err - where is the spelling error above Mr. SarcasmObserver?SouthamObserver said:
I do love a badly spelled snarky spelling comment.felix said:
1. There aren't 2 G's in bigoted - so much for NuLab educashun!SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
2. Her comment wasn't bigoted.
3. GB lacked to guts to criticize her to her face.
4. Labour are still the nasty party when it comes to their base.
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Lol - Pedantry rules over substance any day. And still no spelling errors.JohnLilburne said:
G's doesn't need the apostrophe which should only be used for possessives. In addition you have "to" for "the" and I would argue you should say Labour is, not Labour are (although many people wouldn't). But let's see what Southam pulls you up on...felix said:
Err - where is the spelling error above Mr. SarcasmObserver?SouthamObserver said:
I do love a badly spelled snarky spelling comment.felix said:
1. There aren't 2 G's in bigoted - so much for NuLab educashun!SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
2. Her comment wasn't bigoted.
3. GB lacked to guts to criticize her to her face.
4. Labour are still the nasty party when it comes to their base.0 -
@elashton: Oh nice. Labour MPs have branded Liz Kendall's apparent leadership bid "The Blair Witch Project", acc to @JGForsyth http://t.co/ytGHBuvZlh0
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@JohnRentoul: Labour won't use Cameron's image in election posters @IndyOnSunday http://t.co/ndWsYFwdX7 Because (a) scared of him (b) can't afford posters0
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I would like to point out they did carve off Sheffield from Leeds, when they took Sheffield out of the West Riding of Yorkshire, and created South Yorkshire in the 70s.
As such Yorkshire if four small carved up regions.
If we were only whole unit, we'd be running the country.0 -
Rofl - Of course me illiterate man - me read the Mail and the Sun - what's your excuse for being a pedant?SouthamObserver said:
So you meant to write "to", did you? I fear you're fibbing, but if not I am happy to apologise and will instead agree with you that you are illiterate.felix said:
So the error was not spelling - apology accepted.SouthamObserver said:
See 3. Unless your problem is English grammar your first to should be spelled the.felix said:
Err - where is the spelling error above Mr. SarcasmObserver?SouthamObserver said:
I do love a badly spelled snarky spelling comment.felix said:
1. There aren't 2 G's in bigoted - so much for NuLab educashun!SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
2. Her comment wasn't bigoted.
3. GB lacked to guts to criticize her to her face.
4. Labour are still the nasty party when it comes to their base.
Oh and btw: Illiterate.
1.
a person who is unable to read or write.
Perhaps you exaggerate my faults a little.0 -
I had lunch last week in Silicon Valley with a bloke who had a cycling accident last year and had to go to their version of A&E in an ambulance. He was there for three hours and had a couple of x-rays. Total bill - $40,000.DecrepitJohnL said:
Your model assumes no funds are absorbed by increased bureaucracy at hospitals or insurance companies. Most insurance-based health services comparable to the NHS are more expensive for this reason.GeoffM said:
All A&E admissions could be covered under personal insurance - with that insurance not paying out under certain admission criteria including the conditions you cite.MP_SE said:
I would support the covering of all costs associated with A&E admissions due to alcohol and drugs. If it was £500 it could be paid in one go or in monthly installments. I think people need to start being more responsible with the lifestyles which they are living and it is wrong to expect the NHS to look after everyone no matter how poorly they look after themselves.TCPoliticalBetting said:
It looks like a fudge. Probably best to hope that the new NHS CEO is as good as Conservative and Labour think and let him get on and run it. Personally I think a small charge at the front ends such as personal presentation at A&E would reduce the pressures there. Such as £20 if not referred to by a doctor or brought in under "emergency" categories. The ambulance service seems able to seperate emergencies from the rest of work. For young working folk a £20 fee maybe better than the GP wait. Also charge £20 for visits while drunk.OblitusSumMe said:
So the question is: Are they so bad that it is worth running the risk and paying the cost of yet another reorganisation, or is it better to just leave alone and let the frontline staff get on with it?TCPoliticalBetting said:
It does look that way. But these were modified plans with LD fingers all over them. It became something designed by a committee with Letwin's input.... Enough said?roserees64 said:Seems that the Tories,like Labour have a problem with ex.ministers speaking out.Stephen Dorrell,Tory ex.minister has stated that Lansley's health reforms are 'the biggest mistake in this parliament.' I have to agree with him.
I don't honestly have the faintest idea.
Does anyone know which polling company came closest to predicting UKIP's share of the vote in the last EU elections?
Shop around and get the coverage you prefer. Some policies would probably cover alcohol related admissions with a premium set appropriately.
The savings achieved are passed on to the taxpayer by a tax cut so for the average slightly unhealthy slightly accident-prone individual it's revenue neutral.
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Another example of the paucity of experience and talent in the People's Party. A former spad to Hewitt and Harman.foxinsoxuk said:
Excellent news, she comes over very well in person and on TV, with the right mixture of passion and ability to communicate.Scott_P said:@TelePolitics: Blairite MP Liz Kendall emerges as favourite in Labour leadership stakes http://t.co/5VbE0gV1qk
She is also untainted by the last Labour government. I backed her when 50/1, and tipped it here.
"Untainted by the last Labour government." Maybe that's because she was only elected in 2010? Now touted as "leadership" material.
Deary me...
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Using one word when you mean another isn't really a spelling error, is it?SouthamObserver said:
So you meant to write "to", did you? I fear you're fibbing, but if not I am happy to apologise and will instead agree with you that you are illiterate.felix said:
So the error was not spelling - apology accepted.SouthamObserver said:
See 3. Unless your problem is English grammar your first to should be spelled the.felix said:
Err - where is the spelling error above Mr. SarcasmObserver?SouthamObserver said:
I do love a badly spelled snarky spelling comment.felix said:
1. There aren't 2 G's in bigoted - so much for NuLab educashun!SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
2. Her comment wasn't bigoted.
3. GB lacked to guts to criticize her to her face.
4. Labour are still the nasty party when it comes to their base.
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Erm, it was you who was snarkily pointing out someone else's spelling. See your 1. Bless.felix said:
Rofl - Of course me illiterate man - me read the Mail and the Sun - what's your excuse for being a pedant?SouthamObserver said:
So you meant to write "to", did you? I fear you're fibbing, but if not I am happy to apologise and will instead agree with you that you are illiterate.felix said:
So the error was not spelling - apology accepted.SouthamObserver said:
See 3. Unless your problem is English grammar your first to should be spelled the.felix said:
Err - where is the spelling error above Mr. SarcasmObserver?SouthamObserver said:
I do love a badly spelled snarky spelling comment.felix said:
1. There aren't 2 G's in bigoted - so much for NuLab educashun!SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
2. Her comment wasn't bigoted.
3. GB lacked to guts to criticize her to her face.
4. Labour are still the nasty party when it comes to their base.
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Look on the bright side, you lost Middlesbrough.TheScreamingEagles said:I would like to point out they did carve off Sheffield from Leeds, when they took Sheffield out of the West Riding of Yorkshire, and created South Yorkshire in the 70s.
As such Yorkshire if four small carved up regions.
If we were only whole unit, we'd be running the country.0 -
As predicted...
@DPJHodges: Labour's response to Stefano Pessina is madness. Foreign? Wealthy? Britain don't want your stinkin' money...0 -
@BBCNormanS: The @theSNP call for one of the 7 party leader #TVdebates to be held in Scotland0
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London is essentially a metropolitan region already. The south-east region is not much more than a geographic construct, is it? There's no SE council, government, services or tax.JohnLilburne said:
It does demonstrate some of the idiocy of dividing England into regions. The current South East region includes places as far away from each other as Oxford, Southampton and Dover, with London in the middle but somehow not part of it. It would IMO be better to have a region made up of London and the adjacent counties, if you want to have such things.JohnLilburne said:
Only for just over 100 years. Before that, apart from the City, it was divided between the counties of Essex, Kent, Surrey and Middlesex.SouthamObserver said:
It's not a lefty plot, Socrates. Leeds and Sheffield are in Yorkshire. London is not in Surrey or Essex. It has been recognised as a distinct regional and political entity for decades (centuries?).Socrates said:@SouthamObserver
"So what do the 10 million people who live in London do while those who commute in do all the work?"
Some of them work, some of them do not. But clearly the economy of London benefits hugely from the efforts of the millions of commuters from Essex, Surrey and the other home counties. It's absurd to deprive the region of south east England of its economic engine. They wouldn't dare carve off Leeds and Sheffield from Yorkshire. But of course, it's one rule for the left wing parts of the country and another for the south.
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Best thing Ted Heath ever did, apart from taking us in the European CommunityJohnLilburne said:
Look on the bright side, you lost Middlesbrough.TheScreamingEagles said:I would like to point out they did carve off Sheffield from Leeds, when they took Sheffield out of the West Riding of Yorkshire, and created South Yorkshire in the 70s.
As such Yorkshire if four small carved up regions.
If we were only whole unit, we'd be running the country.0 -
No, it's illiteracy.JohnLilburne said:
Using one word when you mean another isn't really a spelling error, is it?SouthamObserver said:
So you meant to write "to", did you? I fear you're fibbing, but if not I am happy to apologise and will instead agree with you that you are illiterate.felix said:
So the error was not spelling - apology accepted.SouthamObserver said:
See 3. Unless your problem is English grammar your first to should be spelled the.felix said:
Err - where is the spelling error above Mr. SarcasmObserver?SouthamObserver said:
I do love a badly spelled snarky spelling comment.felix said:
1. There aren't 2 G's in bigoted - so much for NuLab educashun!SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
2. Her comment wasn't bigoted.
3. GB lacked to guts to criticize her to her face.
4. Labour are still the nasty party when it comes to their base.
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Like alcohol related A&E admissions, sports injuries are something which in my opinion should be covered by private insurance. It is not unreasonable to expect those who take part in sports, particularly "extreme sports" take out some form of insurance to cover any injuries which they might sustain. I would exclude road cycling as it is a form of transport, but include say, horse riding, rugby, martial arts, etc.SouthamObserver said:
I had lunch last week in Silicon Valley with a bloke who had a cycling accident last year and had to go to their version of A&E in an ambulance. He was there for three hours and had a couple of x-rays. Total bill - $40,000.0 -
So that would be no excuse then. Oh and 'bless' - patronising with it!SouthamObserver said:
Erm, it was you who was snarkily pointing out someone else's spelling. See your 1. Bless.felix said:
Rofl - Of course me illiterate man - me read the Mail and the Sun - what's your excuse for being a pedant?SouthamObserver said:
So you meant to write "to", did you? I fear you're fibbing, but if not I am happy to apologise and will instead agree with you that you are illiterate.felix said:
So the error was not spelling - apology accepted.SouthamObserver said:
See 3. Unless your problem is English grammar your first to should be spelled the.felix said:
Err - where is the spelling error above Mr. SarcasmObserver?SouthamObserver said:
I do love a badly spelled snarky spelling comment.felix said:
1. There aren't 2 G's in bigoted - so much for NuLab educashun!SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
2. Her comment wasn't bigoted.
3. GB lacked to guts to criticize her to her face.
4. Labour are still the nasty party when it comes to their base.0 -
stand by for gaelic sub titlesScott_P said:@BBCNormanS: The @theSNP call for one of the 7 party leader #TVdebates to be held in Scotland
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They took Coventry out of Warwickshire too.TheScreamingEagles said:I would like to point out they did carve off Sheffield from Leeds, when they took Sheffield out of the West Riding of Yorkshire, and created South Yorkshire in the 70s.
As such Yorkshire if four small carved up regions.
If we were only whole unit, we'd be running the country.
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How long had Cameron been an MP when he became Tory leader?RodCrosby said:
Another example of the paucity of experience and talent in the People's Party. A former spad to Hewitt and Harman.foxinsoxuk said:
Excellent news, she comes over very well in person and on TV, with the right mixture of passion and ability to communicate.Scott_P said:@TelePolitics: Blairite MP Liz Kendall emerges as favourite in Labour leadership stakes http://t.co/5VbE0gV1qk
She is also untainted by the last Labour government. I backed her when 50/1, and tipped it here.
"Untainted by the last Labour government." Maybe that's because she was only elected in 2010? Now touted as "leadership" material.
Deary me...
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I always consider that a net gainSouthamObserver said:
They took Coventry out of Warwickshire too.TheScreamingEagles said:I would like to point out they did carve off Sheffield from Leeds, when they took Sheffield out of the West Riding of Yorkshire, and created South Yorkshire in the 70s.
As such Yorkshire if four small carved up regions.
If we were only whole unit, we'd be running the country.0 -
@ToryBusiness: Rather than listening to one of Britain's biggest employers, Labour are attacking them: http://t.co/ULMmyWLvgx
@DPJHodges: When Ed did "Predators" speech, some of us said "this will come back to bite you". Labour duly gets bitten. Labour cries "why bite us?".0 -
Got it - you can do it to others, but no-one's allowed to do it to you. You're a giver, not a taker. A bit of an Aussie. Double bless with a big X.felix said:
So that would be no excuse then. Oh and 'bless' - patronising with it!SouthamObserver said:
Erm, it was you who was snarkily pointing out someone else's spelling. See your 1. Bless.felix said:
Rofl - Of course me illiterate man - me read the Mail and the Sun - what's your excuse for being a pedant?SouthamObserver said:
So you meant to write "to", did you? I fear you're fibbing, but if not I am happy to apologise and will instead agree with you that you are illiterate.felix said:
So the error was not spelling - apology accepted.SouthamObserver said:
See 3. Unless your problem is English grammar your first to should be spelled the.felix said:
Err - where is the spelling error above Mr. SarcasmObserver?SouthamObserver said:
I do love a badly spelled snarky spelling comment.felix said:
1. There aren't 2 G's in bigoted - so much for NuLab educashun!SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
2. Her comment wasn't bigoted.
3. GB lacked to guts to criticize her to her face.
4. Labour are still the nasty party when it comes to their base.
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I said the same about him...SouthamObserver said:
How long had Cameron been an MP when he became Tory leader?RodCrosby said:
Another example of the paucity of experience and talent in the People's Party. A former spad to Hewitt and Harman.foxinsoxuk said:
Excellent news, she comes over very well in person and on TV, with the right mixture of passion and ability to communicate.Scott_P said:@TelePolitics: Blairite MP Liz Kendall emerges as favourite in Labour leadership stakes http://t.co/5VbE0gV1qk
She is also untainted by the last Labour government. I backed her when 50/1, and tipped it here.
"Untainted by the last Labour government." Maybe that's because she was only elected in 2010? Now touted as "leadership" material.
Deary me...
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Til the day he died my father-in-law always wrote Coventry, Warwickshire as the address when writing letters there.Alanbrooke said:
I always consider that a net gainSouthamObserver said:
They took Coventry out of Warwickshire too.TheScreamingEagles said:I would like to point out they did carve off Sheffield from Leeds, when they took Sheffield out of the West Riding of Yorkshire, and created South Yorkshire in the 70s.
As such Yorkshire if four small carved up regions.
If we were only whole unit, we'd be running the country.
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Well - it took you a while and no you still ain't got it - never will - not gonna happen...SouthamObserver said:
Got it - you can do it to others, but no-one's allowed to do it to you. You're a giver, not a taker. A bit of an Aussie. Double bless with a big X.felix said:
So that would be no excuse then. Oh and 'bless' - patronising with it!SouthamObserver said:
Erm, it was you who was snarkily pointing out someone else's spelling. See your 1. Bless.felix said:
Rofl - Of course me illiterate man - me read the Mail and the Sun - what's your excuse for being a pedant?SouthamObserver said:
So you meant to write "to", did you? I fear you're fibbing, but if not I am happy to apologise and will instead agree with you that you are illiterate.felix said:
So the error was not spelling - apology accepted.SouthamObserver said:
See 3. Unless your problem is English grammar your first to should be spelled the.felix said:
Err - where is the spelling error above Mr. SarcasmObserver?SouthamObserver said:
I do love a badly spelled snarky spelling comment.felix said:
1. There aren't 2 G's in bigoted - so much for NuLab educashun!SandyRentool said:
Duffy did make a biggoted comment. Brown should have stood by what he said.felix said:
How embarrassed you should be as this gets reposted again and again. So reminiscent of Brown's comments about Gillian Duffy at the last election. Labour really ars the nasty party when it comes to their base.justin124 said:
I suppose one should expect little else of the 'thickos' who read such a rag.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: EXCL: Big YouGov poll of Sun readers gives 7 point lead to Tories. CON 35%, LAB 28%, UKIP 26%, LD 3%, GRN 2% http://t.co/sCzG5kXaM9
2. Her comment wasn't bigoted.
3. GB lacked to guts to criticize her to her face.
4. Labour are still the nasty party when it comes to their base.0 -
Most of Solihull did the same they didn't want to be in West MidlandsSouthamObserver said:
Til the day he died my father-in-law always wrote Coventry, Warwickshire as the address when writing letters there.Alanbrooke said:
I always consider that a net gainSouthamObserver said:
They took Coventry out of Warwickshire too.TheScreamingEagles said:I would like to point out they did carve off Sheffield from Leeds, when they took Sheffield out of the West Riding of Yorkshire, and created South Yorkshire in the 70s.
As such Yorkshire if four small carved up regions.
If we were only whole unit, we'd be running the country.0 -
Time for us all to agree, Ted Heath was the greatest Prime Minister ever.Alanbrooke said:
I always consider that a net gainSouthamObserver said:
They took Coventry out of Warwickshire too.TheScreamingEagles said:I would like to point out they did carve off Sheffield from Leeds, when they took Sheffield out of the West Riding of Yorkshire, and created South Yorkshire in the 70s.
As such Yorkshire if four small carved up regions.
If we were only whole unit, we'd be running the country.
He took Middlesbrough out of Yorkshire, and Coventry out of Warwickshire.0 -
There are some interesting statistics reported in David Smith's ST column (largely available here:http://www.economicsuk.com/blog/002076.html#more )
He points out there has been a significant increase in consumer confidence:
"Figures on Friday showed that the main measure of consumer confidence in Britain, produced by GfK-NOP, rose strikingly in January, by five points.
Every measure of the index rose, with people’s perception of their financial situation over both the past 12 months and the next 12 months each up by four points, their perception of the general economic situation over the past 12 months up by 5 points and over the next 12 months by four. Their willingness to make major purchases rose by six points on the month.
Even more dramatic are the comparisons with a year ago. People’s assessment of how the economy has been doing is up 15 points, while perceptions of their own financial position have shown a 10-point improvement. As Michael Saunders, an economist at Citi, puts it: “The ‘feel-better’ factor is back.”"
I think it is not so much a question of whether this is driving the Tory recovery but rather why is the Tory recovery so modest in light of these changes. After a grim start caused by a desperate need to show the markets that the UK was once again taking its fiscal position even vaguely seriously and the EU depression the economy has been improving markedly for nearly 2 years now with dramatic consequences for employment.
And the consequences have been a shift in the Tory's favour of 3-4%. Their gain has probably come more from the rise of the Greens as red liberals despair of Ed than the economy. Clearly Ed's cost of living crisis spiel is going to fall onto ever stonier ground but this election is not about him. If it was it would be over already.
I really don't understand why so many people seem so confident that the meh effect of the last 2 years is suddenly going to change dramatically and much more swiftly over the next 3 months. I think the trend will continue edging the tories into the lead but not by nearly as much as they won by the last time.
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Roger, if you are around, the next thread is going up shortly, can you please comment on the thread "No". Thanks in advance0
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It's disastrous for Ed that the non-UK resident, billionaire boss of a tax avoiding, minimum wage paying company that derives a large part of its income from NHS prescriptions is criticising him. It should play havoc with the demographics Labour needs to win over.Scott_P said:@ToryBusiness: Rather than listening to one of Britain's biggest employers, Labour are attacking them: http://t.co/ULMmyWLvgx
@DPJHodges: When Ed did "Predators" speech, some of us said "this will come back to bite you". Labour duly gets bitten. Labour cries "why bite us?".
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@steve_hawkes: New Statesman editor says Labour has "lost confidence", Ed Miliband looks "haunted" and Ed Balls has given up0
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Ah, I detect a 50/1 tip coming up!TheScreamingEagles said:Roger, if you are around, the next thread is going up shortly, can you please comment on the thread "No". Thanks in advance
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That's a bit of a problem as exercise, overall, is good for you, makes you healthier, and less likely to need medical treatment. So if you are going to have them covered by private health insurance in an otherwise taxpayer-funded system, it is yet another disincentive to people to keep themselves healthy.MP_SE said:
Like alcohol related A&E admissions, sports injuries are something which in my opinion should be covered by private insurance. It is not unreasonable to expect those who take part in sports, particularly "extreme sports" take out some form of insurance to cover any injuries which they might sustain. I would exclude road cycling as it is a form of transport, but include say, horse riding, rugby, martial arts, etc.SouthamObserver said:
I had lunch last week in Silicon Valley with a bloke who had a cycling accident last year and had to go to their version of A&E in an ambulance. He was there for three hours and had a couple of x-rays. Total bill - $40,000.
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O/T
Here's a link to a review apprating in The Dailt Telegraph of The Finborough Arms, Earls Court which is run by Stonch (not "Stodge" as I mistakenly referred to him - apologies) :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/pubs/11362334/The-Finborough-Arms-London-pub-review.html
Charles is going to check it out, in a purely professional capacity of course for PB.com, as a possible venue for an overnight ticket-only venue on 7-8 May.
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Sorry but this story is complete tosh - she is available at 20-1 with Ladbrokes - Burnham, Cooper and Chuka are the betting favourites.foxinsoxuk said:
Excellent news, she comes over very well in person and on TV, with the right mixture of passion and ability to communicate.Scott_P said:@TelePolitics: Blairite MP Liz Kendall emerges as favourite in Labour leadership stakes http://t.co/5VbE0gV1qk
She is also untainted by the last Labour government. I backed her when 50/1, and tipped it here.0 -
You may be interested in this Kendall quote:GeoffM said:
That's also interesting, thanks. The general public don't get to see the depth of people with special interests in common so you have the advantage over us there.foxinsoxuk said:
She is a Leicester MP, so I have seen her speak on a number of occasions. She also holds the Health brief for long term conditions, something that I follow.GeoffM said:
Interesting how all of the positives that you see in her are PR related and nothing to do with what policies might or might not be clicking between her ears.foxinsoxuk said:
Excellent news, she comes over very well in person and on TV, with the right mixture of passion and ability to communicate.Scott_P said:@TelePolitics: Blairite MP Liz Kendall emerges as favourite in Labour leadership stakes http://t.co/5VbE0gV1qk
She is also untainted by the last Labour government. I backed her when 50/1, and tipped it here.
(plus your betting position - and as a fellow punter I wish you good luck with that)
She is a centrist candidate, but not a rent-a-clone empty suit. It is what Labour needs.
I picked up on the way you phrased your comment with a certain sadness because of the obvious political trend in more media-aware countries since WW2 towards outwardly articulate, empathetic and presentable candidates with less regard for intellectual vigour. Except Ed, obviously, who lacks all of those things.
"Some people criticise Labour for backing patient choice, saying what most people want is a good local hospital.
This is true. But what if your local hospital isn’t good?
A recent Freedom of Information request revealed that the number of patients who chose to go to Mid Staffordshire hospital through ‘Choose and Book’ fell from 15,700 in 2007/8 to 6,500 in 2012/13.
In other words, almost two thirds fewer patients chose to go to Mid Staffordshire in the space of 5 years.
Would anyone seriously want to have denied people this choice?"
From: http://web.archive.org/web/20131110145411/http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2013/02/13/labour-finds-its-voice-on-nhs-reform/
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I am curious about this big charge. How does it work?peter_from_putney said:
"I reckon the share price going up us more to do with the insanely unfair 40% premium charge levelled at any big winners... The effect of a monopoly/closed shop
It's quite complicated but more or less, when you start making more than 250k a year they take 40% of your net winnings
I don't make that much, but people I work with do so I end up paying it
When I first heard it suggested I honestly thought it a wind up, but as they have no competition they can do what they like."
I must admit I hadn't heard about this form of Betfair "surtax" either. Is it actually in their published terms and conditions or is it something one only becomes aware of (I should be so lucky) when one hits that £250K ceiling?
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