I am prolier than thou – politicalbetting.com

System · September 11

I am prolier than thou – politicalbetting.com

With MPs nominations about to close, which characteristics do Labour voters see as important for Labour's next deputy leader?From a working class b'ground: 62%From outside the South: 48%From left of the party: 42%Is a cabinet minister: 29%Is a woman: 26%From an ethnic minority b'ground: 18%

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TheScreamingEagles · September 11

First?

Scott_xP · September 11

TheScreamingEagles said:
First?

You have no honor. You have no code!

FrancisUrquhart · September 11

Both are a significant downgrade on Big Ange. Lucy Powell in particular fails time and time again, she has just been sacked by Starmer for being bloody useless and given the piss poor quality of the government, that is quite some achievement.

Leon · September 11

The left must now be extinguished. Finished as a political force forever

I’ve never felt that before but now it is the case

TheScreamingEagles · September 11

Scott_xP said:

TheScreamingEagles said:
First?
You have no honor. You have no code!

I have no sense of shame.

That way my other senses are enhanced.

BartholomewRoberts · September 11

Six

BartholomewRoberts · September 11

Seven

isam · September 11

Phillipson at 33/1 is actually an arb; 28/1 to lay on Betfair Exchange, where Powell can be backed at 79/1

TheScreamingEagles · September 11

FrancisUrquhart said:
Both are a significant downgrade on Big Ange. Lucy Powell in particular fails time and time again.

One of them might be our next Prime Minister.

FrancisUrquhart · September 11

TheScreamingEagles said:

FrancisUrquhart said:
Both are a significant downgrade on Big Ange. Lucy Powell in particular fails time and time again.
One of them might be our next Prime Minister.

I think the markets would have a meltdown.

Scott_xP · September 11

Leon said:
The left must now be extinguished. Finished as a political force forever

I’ve never felt that before but now it is the case

...

Leon · September 11

This is so superbly 2025

“Nepal's Gen-Z, who overthrew the Nepalese govt, have chosen their new leader via a poll on a discord server.”

https://x.com/southasiaindex/status/1965809426897735987?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

Stuartinromford · September 11

That's 318 nominations in total? Seems like quite a lot of Labour MPs with urgent dental appointments.

And the awkward squad nowhere near.

Sunil_Prasannan · September 11

isam said:
Phillipson at 33/1 is actually an arb; 28/1 to lay on Betfair Exchange, where Powell can be backed at 79/1

Did you hear about the Indian tennis player who simultaneously backed and laid himself to win Wimbledon?

Vijay Arbitrage.

IanB2 · September 11

Fifteenth!

wooliedyed · September 11

Miliband backs Powell. Popcorny

Mexicanpete · September 11

wooliedyed said:
Miliband backs Powell. Popcorny

Looking for a continuity Ministerial role in Burnham's first cabinet.

Leon · September 11

Scott_xP said:

Leon said:
The left must now be extinguished. Finished as a political force forever

I’ve never felt that before but now it is the case
...

And?

BartholomewRoberts · September 11

DeclanF said:

Foxy said:

Eabhal said:

TheScreamingEagles said:
Tomorrow I will be sacking every Manchester United and Chelsea fan who works for me.

I will also ask future interviewees their opinions about pineapple on pizza and why they think Die Hard isn't a Christmas film.

Denying someone a job over football allegiances is ‘perfectly lawful’

Ruling made in case of a Russian woman who sued for losing a marketing job because interviewers said they didn’t ‘vibe’ with her

Football fans can be legally denied jobs if current staff support a rival team, a judge has ruled.

Potential employers are allowed to base recruitment decisions on whether a prospective colleague might “damage office harmony”, Employment Judge Daniel Wright said.

He added the boss of a business would not be breaking employment law if he rejected a job application from a Tottenham Hotspur season ticket holder because his office is full of Arsenal fans.

The ruling came in the case of a Russian woman who sued after she lost out on a job with a marketing agency because interviewers said they did not “vibe” with her as well as they did with the successful candidate.

Maia Kalina claimed that she was racially discriminated against because, unlike British people, her culture does not involve going to the pub or swearing.

Judge Wright dismissed her claims and said employers had the right to consider whether a prospective employee would get on well with existing staff.

He said: “There may be times when it is perfectly lawful for an employer to decide that somebody just will not be a fit with the team and that therefore it would be difficult to work together.

“An example of this could be a small company where everybody who works in the office is an ardent supporter of Arsenal Football Club, and they decide to pick an Arsenal fan at interview over a similarly qualified Tottenham Hotspur season ticket holder because they do not want to damage the harmony of the office.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/10/denying-someone-job-football-allegiances-perfectly-lawful/?recomm_id=445255e8-03d0-4298-810d-bdf9a8969805
To me that ruling legitimises arsehole behaviour - particularly the example of rival football fans. I'd never sift out a candidate on such a flimsy basis, already work with sometimes difficult people who make up for it by their other attributes.

Also gives an easy excuse for people excluding religions, genders etc. OTOH, I do manage a Leeds fan.
Isn't it that religion and gender are protected characteristics, but football teams are not?

I think the Judge is simply using football teams as an example. It allows employers to use their judgement at interview as to whether someone fits.
Gender is not a protected characteristic. Gender reassignment is.

Sex is though.

Northern_Al · September 11

Stuartinromford said:
That's 318 nominations in total? Seems like quite a lot of Labour MPs with urgent dental appointments.

And the awkward squad nowhere near.

It's a sign of the weakness of the parliamentary left caucus / Socialist Campaign Group that Bell Ribeiro-Addy could only muster 24 MP nominations, although a stronger left candidate may have got a few more.
It rather suggests that Starmer has less to fear from his left flank than is often claimed.

Nigelb · September 11

Leon said:
The left must now be extinguished. Finished as a political force forever

I’ve never felt that before but now it is the case

And ?

CatMan · September 11

Sunil_Prasannan said:

isam said:
Phillipson at 33/1 is actually an arb; 28/1 to lay on Betfair Exchange, where Powell can be backed at 79/1
Did you hear about the Indian tennis player who simultaneously backed and laid himself to win Wimbledon?

Vijay Arbitrage.

Was he the guy in Octopussy?

wooliedyed · September 11

CatMan said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

isam said:
Phillipson at 33/1 is actually an arb; 28/1 to lay on Betfair Exchange, where Powell can be backed at 79/1
Did you hear about the Indian tennis player who simultaneously backed and laid himself to win Wimbledon?

Vijay Arbitrage.
Was he the guy in Octopussy?

Yep.
He played an all time classic against Jimmy Connors at Wimbledon.
Connors came back from 6-0 6-4 and a break down to win

Foxy · September 11

From the morning thread yesterday:

Foxy said:
I see that Phillipson topped the Survation Labour membership poll, and is pretty certain to qualify.

There's not much value in the 1/2 on offer with Ladbrokes for Deputy, but much better value on her as next leader (14/1) and next PM at 33/1.

I think it very likely that Starmer stands down before the GE and the DL steps up to be PM.

You're welcome @TSE 😊

Foxy · September 11

Northern_Al said:

Stuartinromford said:
That's 318 nominations in total? Seems like quite a lot of Labour MPs with urgent dental appointments.

And the awkward squad nowhere near.
It's a sign of the weakness of the parliamentary left caucus / Socialist Campaign Group that Bell Ribeiro-Addy could only muster 24 MP nominations, although a stronger left candidate may have got a few more.
It rather suggests that Starmer has less to fear from his left flank than is often claimed.

The real lefties have left, either voluntarily or involuntarily.

boulay · September 11

A lot of chat on the last thread on Farage’s other half buying the house in Clacton and “how could she afford the mortgage”/“how could her parents afford the mortgage”.

Slightly playing devil’s advocate it’s potentially very easy. She doesn’t have a mortgage.* this is all bollocks if he’s said she has a mortgage btw.

Funnily enough she doesn’t need a mortgage. I know loads of people who do private lending on property. If it’s someone who might be of use, good potential financially in the future or any other upside it’s very easy if you know the right companies and private lenders for her to have got a lump from her family (more on this later) and then taken out an interest only loan to buy the property without it being secured against the property if, for example Nige, guaranteed it, or another contact guaranteed it.

They likely have no concept of it being their “forever home” so it’s not like they want to buy so that they can retire in their home they have paid off in sunny Clacton, they just need to service it for the period they need it.

Once it’s served it’s use they sell it off and it’s effectively been a rental (possibly more expensive than a mortgage but no long term plans for it).

It allows them to demonstrate “commitment” to the constituency by “buying” but it’s not really a long term purchase.

So, back to her family, there is nothing to have stopped Nigel or a contact to gift her family some money. Then her family decide to give the “deposit” to her and so company x lends her 65/75% ltv and she’s just paying the interest. It doesn’t have to even be her because on a private mortgage or loan as long as the lender knows they will get the interest they aren’t going to care.

So technically she has bought a home in the constituency. Her family has helped her buy it with their money technically, there is likely nothing legally wrong with this and likely legally nothing that is tax avoidance.

It’s an expensive way of doing things but cheap if it allows Nigel to suggest to low IQ voters that he has a home in their community.

He doesn’t need to lie to a lender, he doesn’t have to juggle the first v second home issue, he’s going to make a fortune if not already over the period so very few lenders will see him failing with a guarantee.

It might not sit right with people but the point of this scenario is that he can do this without breaking any laws or rules regardless of his partner’s actual wealth/family wealth and on a technicality he can say “my partner bought this house with the help of family money”.

This is of course a made up situation that might be miles away from the truth but people seem to be trying to equate what Rayner did with his situation and there are so many alternative options that I don’t think that Farage and his background/contacts wouldn’t have the planning help and savvy to make it work.

wooliedyed · September 11

wooliedyed said:

CatMan said:

Sunil_Prasannan said:

isam said:
Phillipson at 33/1 is actually an arb; 28/1 to lay on Betfair Exchange, where Powell can be backed at 79/1
Did you hear about the Indian tennis player who simultaneously backed and laid himself to win Wimbledon?

Vijay Arbitrage.
Was he the guy in Octopussy?
Yep.
He played an all time classic against Jimmy Connors at Wimbledon.
Connors came back from 6-0 6-4 and a break down to win

1981 Quarter final if anyone likes great comebacks
Of course in the Semi Connors was 2 sets up versus Bjorn Borg and lost........

I was wrong about the score though it was 5-7 2-6 and a break down
6-0 6-4 was the first two sets vs Borg in the semi

Nigelb · September 11

This isn't entirely surprising, but the numbers are stark.

"Do you think protecting the Second Amendment right to own guns is worth some gun deaths?"

All:
No: 47%
Yes: 30%

Yes Among:
GOP: 55%
IND: 26%
DEM: 10%

YouGov / Sept 11, 2025
https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1966199569810862295

ydoethur · September 11

Scott_xP said:

Leon said:
The left must now be extinguished. Finished as a political force forever

I’ve never felt that before but now it is the case
...

So basically, lots of people on the far right with quite low IQs agree with Leon?

ydoethur · September 11

boulay said:
A lot of chat on the last thread on Farage’s other half buying the house in Clacton and “how could she afford the mortgage”/“how could her parents afford the mortgage”.

Slightly playing devil’s advocate it’s potentially very easy. She doesn’t have a mortgage.* this is all bollocks if he’s said she has a mortgage btw.

Funnily enough she doesn’t need a mortgage. I know loads of people who do private lending on property. If it’s someone who might be of use, good potential financially in the future or any other upside it’s very easy if you know the right companies and private lenders for her to have got a lump from her family (more on this later) and then taken out an interest only loan to buy the property without it being secured against the property if, for example Nige, guaranteed it, or another contact guaranteed it.

They likely have no concept of it being their “forever home” so it’s not like they want to buy so that they can retire in their home they have paid off in sunny Clacton, they just need to service it for the period they need it.

Once it’s served it’s use they sell it off and it’s effectively been a rental (possibly more expensive than a mortgage but no long term plans for it).

It allows them to demonstrate “commitment” to the constituency by “buying” but it’s not really a long term purchase.

So, back to her family, there is nothing to have stopped Nigel or a contact to gift her family some money. Then her family decide to give the “deposit” to her and so company x lends her 65/75% ltv and she’s just paying the interest. It doesn’t have to even be her because on a private mortgage or loan as long as the lender knows they will get the interest they aren’t going to care.

So technically she has bought a home in the constituency. Her family has helped her buy it with their money technically, there is likely nothing legally wrong with this and likely legally nothing that is tax avoidance.

It’s an expensive way of doing things but cheap if it allows Nigel to suggest to low IQ voters that he has a home in their community.

He doesn’t need to lie to a lender, he doesn’t have to juggle the first v second home issue, he’s going to make a fortune if not already over the period so very few lenders will see him failing with a guarantee.

It might not sit right with people but the point of this scenario is that he can do this without breaking any laws or rules regardless of his partner’s actual wealth/family wealth and on a technicality he can say “my partner bought this house with the help of family money”.

This is of course a made up situation that might be miles away from the truth but people seem to be trying to equate what Rayner did with his situation and there are so many alternative options that I don’t think that Farage and his background/contacts wouldn’t have the planning help and savvy to make it work.

Are you sure? ISTR there is a rule that if an individual over the age of 18 provides money for the purchase of a property and uses it as a residence they are legally deemed to be a purchaser.

But I am not an expert - I'm only going off the forms last time I dealt with a property transaction.

HYUFD · September 11

Lucy Powell and Bridget Phillipson are both northerners who went to comprehensives, though Phillipson has the edge on working class background having grown up in a council house with no upstairs heating.

Little to choose between them otherwise for this non Cabinet non job of cheerleading Labour's prole wing, which won't even be Labour chair or Deputy PM, which Lammy keeps. Only interest otherwise is Starmer's candidate is basically Phillipson while Burnham backs Powell

FrancisUrquhart · September 11

boulay said:
A lot of chat on the last thread on Farage’s other half buying the house in Clacton and “how could she afford the mortgage”/“how could her parents afford the mortgage”.

Slightly playing devil’s advocate it’s potentially very easy. She doesn’t have a mortgage.* this is all bollocks if he’s said she has a mortgage btw.

Funnily enough she doesn’t need a mortgage. I know loads of people who do private lending on property. If it’s someone who might be of use, good potential financially in the future or any other upside it’s very easy if you know the right companies and private lenders for her to have got a lump from her family (more on this later) and then taken out an interest only loan to buy the property without it being secured against the property if, for example Nige, guaranteed it, or another contact guaranteed it.

They likely have no concept of it being their “forever home” so it’s not like they want to buy so that they can retire in their home they have paid off in sunny Clacton, they just need to service it for the period they need it.

Once it’s served it’s use they sell it off and it’s effectively been a rental (possibly more expensive than a mortgage but no long term plans for it).

It allows them to demonstrate “commitment” to the constituency by “buying” but it’s not really a long term purchase.

So, back to her family, there is nothing to have stopped Nigel or a contact to gift her family some money. Then her family decide to give the “deposit” to her and so company x lends her 65/75% ltv and she’s just paying the interest. It doesn’t have to even be her because on a private mortgage or loan as long as the lender knows they will get the interest they aren’t going to care.

So technically she has bought a home in the constituency. Her family has helped her buy it with their money technically, there is likely nothing legally wrong with this and likely legally nothing that is tax avoidance.

It’s an expensive way of doing things but cheap if it allows Nigel to suggest to low IQ voters that he has a home in their community.

He doesn’t need to lie to a lender, he doesn’t have to juggle the first v second home issue, he’s going to make a fortune if not already over the period so very few lenders will see him failing with a guarantee.

It might not sit right with people but the point of this scenario is that he can do this without breaking any laws or rules regardless of his partner’s actual wealth/family wealth and on a technicality he can say “my partner bought this house with the help of family money”.

This is of course a made up situation that might be miles away from the truth but people seem to be trying to equate what Rayner did with his situation and there are so many alternative options that I don’t think that Farage and his background/contacts wouldn’t have the planning help and savvy to make it work.

From the BBC report, it seems both Farage and his girlfriend took expensive legal advice (the thing that sunk Rayner particularly when she lied about having done so). It then isn't going to be surprising if they produce a scheme of such a nature.

Tres · September 11

boulay said:
A lot of chat on the last thread on Farage’s other half buying the house in Clacton and “how could she afford the mortgage”/“how could her parents afford the mortgage”.

Slightly playing devil’s advocate it’s potentially very easy. She doesn’t have a mortgage.* this is all bollocks if he’s said she has a mortgage btw.

Funnily enough she doesn’t need a mortgage. I know loads of people who do private lending on property. If it’s someone who might be of use, good potential financially in the future or any other upside it’s very easy if you know the right companies and private lenders for her to have got a lump from her family (more on this later) and then taken out an interest only loan to buy the property without it being secured against the property if, for example Nige, guaranteed it, or another contact guaranteed it.

They likely have no concept of it being their “forever home” so it’s not like they want to buy so that they can retire in their home they have paid off in sunny Clacton, they just need to service it for the period they need it.

Once it’s served it’s use they sell it off and it’s effectively been a rental (possibly more expensive than a mortgage but no long term plans for it).

It allows them to demonstrate “commitment” to the constituency by “buying” but it’s not really a long term purchase.

So, back to her family, there is nothing to have stopped Nigel or a contact to gift her family some money. Then her family decide to give the “deposit” to her and so company x lends her 65/75% ltv and she’s just paying the interest. It doesn’t have to even be her because on a private mortgage or loan as long as the lender knows they will get the interest they aren’t going to care.

So technically she has bought a home in the constituency. Her family has helped her buy it with their money technically, there is likely nothing legally wrong with this and likely legally nothing that is tax avoidance.

It’s an expensive way of doing things but cheap if it allows Nigel to suggest to low IQ voters that he has a home in their community.

He doesn’t need to lie to a lender, he doesn’t have to juggle the first v second home issue, he’s going to make a fortune if not already over the period so very few lenders will see him failing with a guarantee.

It might not sit right with people but the point of this scenario is that he can do this without breaking any laws or rules regardless of his partner’s actual wealth/family wealth and on a technicality he can say “my partner bought this house with the help of family money”.

This is of course a made up situation that might be miles away from the truth but people seem to be trying to equate what Rayner did with his situation and there are so many alternative options that I don’t think that Farage and his background/contacts wouldn’t have the planning help and savvy to make it work.

So basically spivdom.

FrancisUrquhart · September 11

Nigelb said:
This isn't entirely surprising, but the numbers are stark.

"Do you think protecting the Second Amendment right to own guns is worth some gun deaths?"

All:
No: 47%
Yes: 30%

Yes Among:
GOP: 55%
IND: 26%
DEM: 10%

YouGov / Sept 11, 2025
https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1966199569810862295

Isn't it always the case that when we get high profile shooting there is a uptick in gun sales?

Nigelb · September 11

We should have had a betting market for this first.
Who will appoint the first AI PM ? And will an enterprising bookie offer odds...

Albania appoints AI bot as minister to tackle corruption
https://www.reuters.com/technology/albania-appoints-ai-bot-minister-tackle-corruption-2025-09-11/

boulay · September 11

ydoethur said:

boulay said:
A lot of chat on the last thread on Farage’s other half buying the house in Clacton and “how could she afford the mortgage”/“how could her parents afford the mortgage”.

Slightly playing devil’s advocate it’s potentially very easy. She doesn’t have a mortgage.* this is all bollocks if he’s said she has a mortgage btw.

Funnily enough she doesn’t need a mortgage. I know loads of people who do private lending on property. If it’s someone who might be of use, good potential financially in the future or any other upside it’s very easy if you know the right companies and private lenders for her to have got a lump from her family (more on this later) and then taken out an interest only loan to buy the property without it being secured against the property if, for example Nige, guaranteed it, or another contact guaranteed it.

They likely have no concept of it being their “forever home” so it’s not like they want to buy so that they can retire in their home they have paid off in sunny Clacton, they just need to service it for the period they need it.

Once it’s served it’s use they sell it off and it’s effectively been a rental (possibly more expensive than a mortgage but no long term plans for it).

It allows them to demonstrate “commitment” to the constituency by “buying” but it’s not really a long term purchase.

So, back to her family, there is nothing to have stopped Nigel or a contact to gift her family some money. Then her family decide to give the “deposit” to her and so company x lends her 65/75% ltv and she’s just paying the interest. It doesn’t have to even be her because on a private mortgage or loan as long as the lender knows they will get the interest they aren’t going to care.

So technically she has bought a home in the constituency. Her family has helped her buy it with their money technically, there is likely nothing legally wrong with this and likely legally nothing that is tax avoidance.

It’s an expensive way of doing things but cheap if it allows Nigel to suggest to low IQ voters that he has a home in their community.

He doesn’t need to lie to a lender, he doesn’t have to juggle the first v second home issue, he’s going to make a fortune if not already over the period so very few lenders will see him failing with a guarantee.

It might not sit right with people but the point of this scenario is that he can do this without breaking any laws or rules regardless of his partner’s actual wealth/family wealth and on a technicality he can say “my partner bought this house with the help of family money”.

This is of course a made up situation that might be miles away from the truth but people seem to be trying to equate what Rayner did with his situation and there are so many alternative options that I don’t think that Farage and his background/contacts wouldn’t have the planning help and savvy to make it work.

Are you sure? ISTR there is a rule that if an individual over the age of 18 provides money for the purchase of a property and uses it as a residence they are legally deemed to be a purchaser.

But I am not an expert - I'm only going off the forms last time I dealt with a property transaction.

Many things are possible if the guarantee isn’t on the property so it’s not a mortgage but a private loan secured against other assets.

FrancisUrquhart · September 11

Nigelb said:
We should have had a betting market for this first.
Who will appoint the first AI PM ? And will an enterprising bookie offer odds...

Albania appoints AI bot as minister to tackle corruption
https://www.reuters.com/technology/albania-appoints-ai-bot-minister-tackle-corruption-2025-09-11/

And then when it hallucinates a contract and a company to award 25 quillion euros for reducing the number of paperclips used in government....

Leon · September 11

Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES

Roger · September 11

FrancisUrquhart said:
Both are a significant downgrade on Big Ange. Lucy Powell in particular fails time and time again, she has just been sacked by Starmer for being bloody useless and given the piss poor quality of the government, that is quite some achievement.

It might have been helpful if they'd chosen a possible Leader in waiting particularly as Starmer has now shown he has feet of clay. Well done to BJO. He was 100% correct on Gaza and at least 70% correct on Starmer

boulay · September 11

Tres said:

boulay said:
A lot of chat on the last thread on Farage’s other half buying the house in Clacton and “how could she afford the mortgage”/“how could her parents afford the mortgage”.

Slightly playing devil’s advocate it’s potentially very easy. She doesn’t have a mortgage.* this is all bollocks if he’s said she has a mortgage btw.

Funnily enough she doesn’t need a mortgage. I know loads of people who do private lending on property. If it’s someone who might be of use, good potential financially in the future or any other upside it’s very easy if you know the right companies and private lenders for her to have got a lump from her family (more on this later) and then taken out an interest only loan to buy the property without it being secured against the property if, for example Nige, guaranteed it, or another contact guaranteed it.

They likely have no concept of it being their “forever home” so it’s not like they want to buy so that they can retire in their home they have paid off in sunny Clacton, they just need to service it for the period they need it.

Once it’s served it’s use they sell it off and it’s effectively been a rental (possibly more expensive than a mortgage but no long term plans for it).

It allows them to demonstrate “commitment” to the constituency by “buying” but it’s not really a long term purchase.

So, back to her family, there is nothing to have stopped Nigel or a contact to gift her family some money. Then her family decide to give the “deposit” to her and so company x lends her 65/75% ltv and she’s just paying the interest. It doesn’t have to even be her because on a private mortgage or loan as long as the lender knows they will get the interest they aren’t going to care.

So technically she has bought a home in the constituency. Her family has helped her buy it with their money technically, there is likely nothing legally wrong with this and likely legally nothing that is tax avoidance.

It’s an expensive way of doing things but cheap if it allows Nigel to suggest to low IQ voters that he has a home in their community.

He doesn’t need to lie to a lender, he doesn’t have to juggle the first v second home issue, he’s going to make a fortune if not already over the period so very few lenders will see him failing with a guarantee.

It might not sit right with people but the point of this scenario is that he can do this without breaking any laws or rules regardless of his partner’s actual wealth/family wealth and on a technicality he can say “my partner bought this house with the help of family money”.

This is of course a made up situation that might be miles away from the truth but people seem to be trying to equate what Rayner did with his situation and there are so many alternative options that I don’t think that Farage and his background/contacts wouldn’t have the planning help and savvy to make it work.

So basically spivdom.

Whatever people want to call it he’s likely to have access to people and companies who can do similar to the above and it breaks no rules or laws. I might be wildly wrong and he gets his arse handed to him but the hope that he gets shafted like Rayner is reaching.

AnneJGP · September 11

How does the deputy leader / deputy prime minister business work? DPM acts for the PM if he's absent or incapacitated, but who becomes PM if SKS resigns?

Nigelb · September 11

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES

It's a serious crush, then ?

CatMan · September 11

AnneJGP said:
How does the deputy leader / deputy prime minister business work? DPM acts for the PM if he's absent or incapacitated, but who becomes PM if SKS resigns?

When Boris resigned, he stayed as PM until Truss was elected Tory leader, so presumably the same thing would happen.

MoonRabbit · September 11

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES

After Rayner going, it does put Farage in a difficult place doesn’t it - that much is clearly there between the lines of what you just posted.

looking at the heat gradually building on Farage over property dealings - someone posted on PB yesterday farage wife family super rich she could buy him the house, that was very wrong, the only place the house money could have come from is Nigel himself.

We don’t all love him on this site - Farage is an odious twat. I’m pleased Farage is going to get bit by bit dismantled long before the next election comes. The first bit is happening right now.

carnforth · September 11

ydoethur said:

boulay said:
A lot of chat on the last thread on Farage’s other half buying the house in Clacton and “how could she afford the mortgage”/“how could her parents afford the mortgage”.

Slightly playing devil’s advocate it’s potentially very easy. She doesn’t have a mortgage.* this is all bollocks if he’s said she has a mortgage btw.

Funnily enough she doesn’t need a mortgage. I know loads of people who do private lending on property. If it’s someone who might be of use, good potential financially in the future or any other upside it’s very easy if you know the right companies and private lenders for her to have got a lump from her family (more on this later) and then taken out an interest only loan to buy the property without it being secured against the property if, for example Nige, guaranteed it, or another contact guaranteed it.

They likely have no concept of it being their “forever home” so it’s not like they want to buy so that they can retire in their home they have paid off in sunny Clacton, they just need to service it for the period they need it.

Once it’s served it’s use they sell it off and it’s effectively been a rental (possibly more expensive than a mortgage but no long term plans for it).

It allows them to demonstrate “commitment” to the constituency by “buying” but it’s not really a long term purchase.

So, back to her family, there is nothing to have stopped Nigel or a contact to gift her family some money. Then her family decide to give the “deposit” to her and so company x lends her 65/75% ltv and she’s just paying the interest. It doesn’t have to even be her because on a private mortgage or loan as long as the lender knows they will get the interest they aren’t going to care.

So technically she has bought a home in the constituency. Her family has helped her buy it with their money technically, there is likely nothing legally wrong with this and likely legally nothing that is tax avoidance.

It’s an expensive way of doing things but cheap if it allows Nigel to suggest to low IQ voters that he has a home in their community.

He doesn’t need to lie to a lender, he doesn’t have to juggle the first v second home issue, he’s going to make a fortune if not already over the period so very few lenders will see him failing with a guarantee.

It might not sit right with people but the point of this scenario is that he can do this without breaking any laws or rules regardless of his partner’s actual wealth/family wealth and on a technicality he can say “my partner bought this house with the help of family money”.

This is of course a made up situation that might be miles away from the truth but people seem to be trying to equate what Rayner did with his situation and there are so many alternative options that I don’t think that Farage and his background/contacts wouldn’t have the planning help and savvy to make it work.

Are you sure? ISTR there is a rule that if an individual over the age of 18 provides money for the purchase of a property and uses it as a residence they are legally deemed to be a purchaser.

But I am not an expert - I'm only going off the forms last time I dealt with a property transaction.

A residence, or their main residence?

Tres · September 11

boulay said:

Tres said:

boulay said:
A lot of chat on the last thread on Farage’s other half buying the house in Clacton and “how could she afford the mortgage”/“how could her parents afford the mortgage”.

Slightly playing devil’s advocate it’s potentially very easy. She doesn’t have a mortgage.* this is all bollocks if he’s said she has a mortgage btw.

Funnily enough she doesn’t need a mortgage. I know loads of people who do private lending on property. If it’s someone who might be of use, good potential financially in the future or any other upside it’s very easy if you know the right companies and private lenders for her to have got a lump from her family (more on this later) and then taken out an interest only loan to buy the property without it being secured against the property if, for example Nige, guaranteed it, or another contact guaranteed it.

They likely have no concept of it being their “forever home” so it’s not like they want to buy so that they can retire in their home they have paid off in sunny Clacton, they just need to service it for the period they need it.

Once it’s served it’s use they sell it off and it’s effectively been a rental (possibly more expensive than a mortgage but no long term plans for it).

It allows them to demonstrate “commitment” to the constituency by “buying” but it’s not really a long term purchase.

So, back to her family, there is nothing to have stopped Nigel or a contact to gift her family some money. Then her family decide to give the “deposit” to her and so company x lends her 65/75% ltv and she’s just paying the interest. It doesn’t have to even be her because on a private mortgage or loan as long as the lender knows they will get the interest they aren’t going to care.

So technically she has bought a home in the constituency. Her family has helped her buy it with their money technically, there is likely nothing legally wrong with this and likely legally nothing that is tax avoidance.

It’s an expensive way of doing things but cheap if it allows Nigel to suggest to low IQ voters that he has a home in their community.

He doesn’t need to lie to a lender, he doesn’t have to juggle the first v second home issue, he’s going to make a fortune if not already over the period so very few lenders will see him failing with a guarantee.

It might not sit right with people but the point of this scenario is that he can do this without breaking any laws or rules regardless of his partner’s actual wealth/family wealth and on a technicality he can say “my partner bought this house with the help of family money”.

This is of course a made up situation that might be miles away from the truth but people seem to be trying to equate what Rayner did with his situation and there are so many alternative options that I don’t think that Farage and his background/contacts wouldn’t have the planning help and savvy to make it work.

So basically spivdom.
Whatever people want to call it he’s likely to have access to people and companies who can do similar to the above and it breaks no rules or laws. I might be wildly wrong and he gets his arse handed to him but the hope that he gets shafted like Rayner is reaching.

and if he cant explain to the man in the clapham omnibus where the money came from.....

MattW · September 11

Scott_xP said:

TheScreamingEagles said:
First?
You have no honor. You have no code!

Astonished you have not been called out by now.

"Honor", as a spelling, is not honourable.

LostPassword · September 11

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES

If we all love him so much why is he going to so much trouble to dodge £40k in tax? Surely a quick whip round would see it covered for him by voluntary subscription?

isam · September 11

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES

As John Rentoul said, Farage has never been sanctimonious about other people's tax affairs, so could bat away anyone delving into his without being compromised politically in the way Rayner was. It doesn't matter.

Dopermean · September 11

Nigelb said:
This isn't entirely surprising, but the numbers are stark.

"Do you think protecting the Second Amendment right to own guns is worth some gun deaths?"

All:
No: 47%
Yes: 30%

Yes Among:
GOP: 55%
IND: 26%
DEM: 10%

YouGov / Sept 11, 2025
https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1966199569810862295

boulay said:
A lot of chat on the last thread on Farage’s other half buying the house in Clacton and “how could she afford the mortgage”/“how could her parents afford the mortgage”.

Slightly playing devil’s advocate it’s potentially very easy. She doesn’t have a mortgage.* this is all bollocks if he’s said she has a mortgage btw.

Funnily enough she doesn’t need a mortgage. I know loads of people who do private lending on property. If it’s someone who might be of use, good potential financially in the future or any other upside it’s very easy if you know the right companies and private lenders for her to have got a lump from her family (more on this later) and then taken out an interest only loan to buy the property without it being secured against the property if, for example Nige, guaranteed it, or another contact guaranteed it.

They likely have no concept of it being their “forever home” so it’s not like they want to buy so that they can retire in their home they have paid off in sunny Clacton, they just need to service it for the period they need it.

Once it’s served it’s use they sell it off and it’s effectively been a rental (possibly more expensive than a mortgage but no long term plans for it).

It allows them to demonstrate “commitment” to the constituency by “buying” but it’s not really a long term purchase.

So, back to her family, there is nothing to have stopped Nigel or a contact to gift her family some money. Then her family decide to give the “deposit” to her and so company x lends her 65/75% ltv and she’s just paying the interest. It doesn’t have to even be her because on a private mortgage or loan as long as the lender knows they will get the interest they aren’t going to care.

So technically she has bought a home in the constituency. Her family has helped her buy it with their money technically, there is likely nothing legally wrong with this and likely legally nothing that is tax avoidance.

It’s an expensive way of doing things but cheap if it allows Nigel to suggest to low IQ voters that he has a home in their community.

He doesn’t need to lie to a lender, he doesn’t have to juggle the first v second home issue, he’s going to make a fortune if not already over the period so very few lenders will see him failing with a guarantee.

It might not sit right with people but the point of this scenario is that he can do this without breaking any laws or rules regardless of his partner’s actual wealth/family wealth and on a technicality he can say “my partner bought this house with the help of family money”.

This is of course a made up situation that might be miles away from the truth but people seem to be trying to equate what Rayner did with his situation and there are so many alternative options that I don’t think that Farage and his background/contacts wouldn’t have the planning help and savvy to make it work.

Rayner failed to take expert legal advice and found herself liable for tax that she could have morally and legally avoided, then tried to cover up her mistake.

What you're outlining is a complicated, and probably entirely unnecessary, arrangement that would be likely to set off money-laundering sirens at all the law firms involved.

Sunil_Prasannan · September 11

MattW said:

Scott_xP said:

TheScreamingEagles said:
First?
You have no honor. You have no code!
Astonished you have not been called out by now.

"Honor", as a spelling, is not honourable.

Honor Blackman
Honor Oak Park

ydoethur · September 11

Dopermean said:

Nigelb said:
This isn't entirely surprising, but the numbers are stark.

"Do you think protecting the Second Amendment right to own guns is worth some gun deaths?"

All:
No: 47%
Yes: 30%

Yes Among:
GOP: 55%
IND: 26%
DEM: 10%

YouGov / Sept 11, 2025
https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1966199569810862295

boulay said:
A lot of chat on the last thread on Farage’s other half buying the house in Clacton and “how could she afford the mortgage”/“how could her parents afford the mortgage”.

Slightly playing devil’s advocate it’s potentially very easy. She doesn’t have a mortgage.* this is all bollocks if he’s said she has a mortgage btw.

Funnily enough she doesn’t need a mortgage. I know loads of people who do private lending on property. If it’s someone who might be of use, good potential financially in the future or any other upside it’s very easy if you know the right companies and private lenders for her to have got a lump from her family (more on this later) and then taken out an interest only loan to buy the property without it being secured against the property if, for example Nige, guaranteed it, or another contact guaranteed it.

They likely have no concept of it being their “forever home” so it’s not like they want to buy so that they can retire in their home they have paid off in sunny Clacton, they just need to service it for the period they need it.

Once it’s served it’s use they sell it off and it’s effectively been a rental (possibly more expensive than a mortgage but no long term plans for it).

It allows them to demonstrate “commitment” to the constituency by “buying” but it’s not really a long term purchase.

So, back to her family, there is nothing to have stopped Nigel or a contact to gift her family some money. Then her family decide to give the “deposit” to her and so company x lends her 65/75% ltv and she’s just paying the interest. It doesn’t have to even be her because on a private mortgage or loan as long as the lender knows they will get the interest they aren’t going to care.

So technically she has bought a home in the constituency. Her family has helped her buy it with their money technically, there is likely nothing legally wrong with this and likely legally nothing that is tax avoidance.

It’s an expensive way of doing things but cheap if it allows Nigel to suggest to low IQ voters that he has a home in their community.

He doesn’t need to lie to a lender, he doesn’t have to juggle the first v second home issue, he’s going to make a fortune if not already over the period so very few lenders will see him failing with a guarantee.

It might not sit right with people but the point of this scenario is that he can do this without breaking any laws or rules regardless of his partner’s actual wealth/family wealth and on a technicality he can say “my partner bought this house with the help of family money”.

This is of course a made up situation that might be miles away from the truth but people seem to be trying to equate what Rayner did with his situation and there are so many alternative options that I don’t think that Farage and his background/contacts wouldn’t have the planning help and savvy to make it work.

Rayner failed to take expert legal advice and found herself liable for tax that she could have morally and legally avoided, then tried to cover up her mistake.

What you're outlining is a complicated, and probably entirely unnecessary, arrangement that would be likely to set off money-laundering sirens at all the law firms involved.

You clearly have a higher opinion of expensive law firms than I do.

Stuartinromford · September 11

Tres said:

boulay said:

Tres said:

boulay said:
A lot of chat on the last thread on Farage’s other half buying the house in Clacton and “how could she afford the mortgage”/“how could her parents afford the mortgage”.

Slightly playing devil’s advocate it’s potentially very easy. She doesn’t have a mortgage.* this is all bollocks if he’s said she has a mortgage btw.

Funnily enough she doesn’t need a mortgage. I know loads of people who do private lending on property. If it’s someone who might be of use, good potential financially in the future or any other upside it’s very easy if you know the right companies and private lenders for her to have got a lump from her family (more on this later) and then taken out an interest only loan to buy the property without it being secured against the property if, for example Nige, guaranteed it, or another contact guaranteed it.

They likely have no concept of it being their “forever home” so it’s not like they want to buy so that they can retire in their home they have paid off in sunny Clacton, they just need to service it for the period they need it.

Once it’s served it’s use they sell it off and it’s effectively been a rental (possibly more expensive than a mortgage but no long term plans for it).

It allows them to demonstrate “commitment” to the constituency by “buying” but it’s not really a long term purchase.

So, back to her family, there is nothing to have stopped Nigel or a contact to gift her family some money. Then her family decide to give the “deposit” to her and so company x lends her 65/75% ltv and she’s just paying the interest. It doesn’t have to even be her because on a private mortgage or loan as long as the lender knows they will get the interest they aren’t going to care.

So technically she has bought a home in the constituency. Her family has helped her buy it with their money technically, there is likely nothing legally wrong with this and likely legally nothing that is tax avoidance.

It’s an expensive way of doing things but cheap if it allows Nigel to suggest to low IQ voters that he has a home in their community.

He doesn’t need to lie to a lender, he doesn’t have to juggle the first v second home issue, he’s going to make a fortune if not already over the period so very few lenders will see him failing with a guarantee.

It might not sit right with people but the point of this scenario is that he can do this without breaking any laws or rules regardless of his partner’s actual wealth/family wealth and on a technicality he can say “my partner bought this house with the help of family money”.

This is of course a made up situation that might be miles away from the truth but people seem to be trying to equate what Rayner did with his situation and there are so many alternative options that I don’t think that Farage and his background/contacts wouldn’t have the planning help and savvy to make it work.

So basically spivdom.
Whatever people want to call it he’s likely to have access to people and companies who can do similar to the above and it breaks no rules or laws. I might be wildly wrong and he gets his arse handed to him but the hope that he gets shafted like Rayner is reaching.
and if he cant explain to the man in the clapham omnibus where the money came from.....

That probably doesn't matter. Much like Boris, he has a reality distortion field round him, so his fans will continue to fan him, pretty much whatever. Trump's line about shooting someone and not losing support is pretty much true. Unfortunately.

What might matter is if some detail of the arrangements here isn't as lawful as Farage et sa fille think. (Taking legal advice might not help. Plenty of rich twits have been told by lawyers that their dodgy arrangements are totes legit.)

Sunil_Prasannan · September 11

MoonRabbit said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
After Rayner going, it does put Farage in a difficult place doesn’t it - that much is clearly there between the lines of what you just posted.

looking at the heat gradually building on Farage over property dealings - someone posted on PB yesterday farage wife family super rich she could buy him the house, that was very wrong, the only place the house money could have come from is Nigel himself.

We don’t all love him on this site - Farage is an odious twat. I’m pleased Farage is going to get bit by bit dismantled long before the next election comes. The first bit is happening right now.

Leon · September 11

isam said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
As John Rentoul said, Farage has never been sanctimonious about other people's tax affairs, so could bat away anyone delving into his without being compromised politically in the way Rayner was. It doesn't matter.

Also nigel is BRILLIANT and will deport lots and lots and lots of people. I don’t give a fuck if he bought the house by ejaculating onto the pope for a TikTok bet

ydoethur · September 11

Leon said:

isam said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
As John Rentoul said, Farage has never been sanctimonious about other people's tax affairs, so could bat away anyone delving into his without being compromised politically in the way Rayner was. It doesn't matter.
Also nigel is BRILLIANT and will deport lots and lots and lots of people. I don’t give a fuck if he bought the house by ejaculating onto the pope for a TikTok bet

Starting with himself when he wants to earn cash on the American lecture circuit.

Daveyboy1961 · September 11

Leon said:

isam said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
As John Rentoul said, Farage has never been sanctimonious about other people's tax affairs, so could bat away anyone delving into his without being compromised politically in the way Rayner was. It doesn't matter.
Also nigel is BRILLIANT and will deport lots and lots and lots of people. I don’t give a fuck if he bought the house by ejaculating onto the pope for a TikTok bet

Are you drunk again?

Nigelb · September 11

MattW said:

Scott_xP said:

TheScreamingEagles said:
First?
You have no honor. You have no code!
Astonished you have not been called out by now.

"Honor", as a spelling, is not honourable.

A Few Good Men
So the spelling is correct.

stodge · September 11

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES

Well, you could write him his victory speech. You couldn't give it because your tongue is so firmly in your cheek you'd be unintelligible.

Leon · September 11

In fact - and I say this after some considerable and saturnine mentation - I HOPE Nigel got the money for his clacton house by ejaculating onto the Pope for a TikTok bet

Daveyboy1961 · September 11

Officer Topic

Someone said earlier that they had a bet on for Starmer to resign in 2025. I've got a sneaking suspicion that that will come off.

Pro_Rata · September 11

stodge said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
Well, you could write him his victory speech. You couldn't give it because your tongue is so firmly in your cheek you'd be unintelligible.

That's what maggot cheese does to a man.

SirNorfolkPassmore · September 11

isam said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
As John Rentoul said, Farage has never been sanctimonious about other people's tax affairs, so could bat away anyone delving into his without being compromised politically in the way Rayner was. It doesn't matter.

Farage literally said a few days ago that Rayner had to go over an underpayment of stamp duty that was almost identical to his own apparent underpayment.

Nigelb · September 11

This, presumably, is the US response to the attack in Poland ?

The US has lifted sanctions on the Belarusian airline Belavia, US presidential spokesman John Cole said at a meeting with dictator Lukashenka
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1966102567995560095

Mexicanpete · September 11

Elon Musk "The left is the party of murder"

Jesse Waters declares war on the left

Laura Loomer "It's time for the Trump administration to shut down, defund, & prosecute every single leftist organisation"

Can we have a quote from Leon?

Leon · September 11

stodge said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
Well, you could write him his victory speech. You couldn't give it because your tongue is so firmly in your cheek you'd be unintelligible.

Are you seriously accusing Nigel Farage MP of securing a mortgage in his constituency of Clacton-on-Sea by “ejaculating onto the Pope for a TikTok bet”??

Really?? Because that’s what it sounds like. And respected PBers are bruiting this like it’s some credible hypothesis

Get a grip. This site is becoming ludicrous

Razedabode · September 11

Labour are so fecked. We can’t continue like business as usual, but the two main parties seem to think they can just plod along, and Starmer utterly caught short. Depressing

geoffw · September 11

Same old, same old: yesterday Mandelson today Mandelsoff

Mexicanpete · September 11

stodge said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
Well, you could write him his victory speech. You couldn't give it because your tongue is so firmly in your cheek you'd be unintelligible.

I suspect Chris Mason has that gig. Although he's right, if Starmer had made Farage Ambassador, none of this would have happened.

ydoethur · September 11

Leon said:

stodge said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
Well, you could write him his victory speech. You couldn't give it because your tongue is so firmly in your cheek you'd be unintelligible.
Are you seriously accusing Nigel Farage MP of securing a mortgage in his constituency of Clacton-on-Sea by “ejaculating onto the Pope for a TikTok bet”??

Really?? Because that’s what it sounds like. And respected PBers are bruiting this like it’s some credible hypothesis

Get a grip. This site is becoming ludicrous

It was bad enough when you were talking to yourself as Eadric, but if you're going to start accusing other posters of writing things you have written yourself under your own handle, that's a somewhat worrying development.

Luckyguy1983 · September 11

...

MoonRabbit said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
After Rayner going, it does put Farage in a difficult place doesn’t it - that much is clearly there between the lines of what you just posted.

looking at the heat gradually building on Farage over property dealings - someone posted on PB yesterday farage wife family super rich she could buy him the house, that was very wrong, the only place the house money could have come from is Nigel himself.

We don’t all love him on this site - Farage is an odious twat. I’m pleased Farage is going to get bit by bit dismantled long before the next election comes. The first bit is happening right now.

Remind us what you declared the Reform ceiling was?

ydoethur · September 11

Mexicanpete said:

stodge said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
Well, you could write him his victory speech. You couldn't give it because your tongue is so firmly in your cheek you'd be unintelligible.
I suspect Chris Mason has that gig. Although he's right, if Starmer had made Farage Ambassador, none of this would have happened.

Isn't there a vacancy there now?

Mexicanpete · September 11

Leon said:

stodge said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
Well, you could write him his victory speech. You couldn't give it because your tongue is so firmly in your cheek you'd be unintelligible.
Are you seriously accusing Nigel Farage MP of securing a mortgage in his constituency of Clacton-on-Sea by “ejaculating onto the Pope for a TikTok bet”??

Really?? Because that’s what it sounds like. And respected PBers are bruiting this like it’s some credible hypothesis

Get a grip. This site is becoming ludicrous

I think you'll find it is fine when you have nodded off for 40 winks.

HYUFD · September 11

Jacob Rees Mogg has just prayed in Latin for the soul of Charlie Kirk on his GB News show

stodge · September 11

Leon said:

stodge said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
Well, you could write him his victory speech. You couldn't give it because your tongue is so firmly in your cheek you'd be unintelligible.
Are you seriously accusing Nigel Farage MP of securing a mortgage in his constituency of Clacton-on-Sea by “ejaculating onto the Pope for a TikTok bet”??

Really?? Because that’s what it sounds like. And respected PBers are bruiting this like it’s some credible hypothesis

Get a grip. This site is becoming ludicrous

No, never said at all as you well know.

I'm more interested in your traditional "let's kill off the left" message which you've bored us with in all your ridiculous incarnations for the last 15 years or more.

I suppose you'd prefer a two party system - the "hard right" and the "harder right" with power changing between the two based, rather like central American politics of the 1980s, on which group's death squads were more efficient.

Mexicanpete · September 11

ydoethur said:

Mexicanpete said:

stodge said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
Well, you could write him his victory speech. You couldn't give it because your tongue is so firmly in your cheek you'd be unintelligible.
I suspect Chris Mason has that gig. Although he's right, if Starmer had made Farage Ambassador, none of this would have happened.
Isn't there a vacancy there now?

Too late.

The King of all our hearts is our Prime Minister in waiting now. Ooh, I went all Chris Mason for a minute.

ydoethur · September 11

stodge said:

Leon said:

stodge said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
Well, you could write him his victory speech. You couldn't give it because your tongue is so firmly in your cheek you'd be unintelligible.
Are you seriously accusing Nigel Farage MP of securing a mortgage in his constituency of Clacton-on-Sea by “ejaculating onto the Pope for a TikTok bet”??

Really?? Because that’s what it sounds like. And respected PBers are bruiting this like it’s some credible hypothesis

Get a grip. This site is becoming ludicrous
No, never said at all as you well know.

I'm more interested in your traditional "let's kill off the left" message which you've bored us with in all your ridiculous incarnations for the last 15 years or more.

I suppose you'd prefer a two party system - the "hard right" and the "harder right" with power changing between the two based, rather like central American politics of the 1980s, on which group's death squads were more efficient.

If Nigel Farage masturbated on the Pope, he would at least be hard and on the right.

Battlebus · September 11

Off topic - for the petrolheads. Sitting in a barn. Made to look like a Caterham 7?

ydoethur · September 11

Mexicanpete said:

ydoethur said:

Mexicanpete said:

stodge said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
Well, you could write him his victory speech. You couldn't give it because your tongue is so firmly in your cheek you'd be unintelligible.
I suspect Chris Mason has that gig. Although he's right, if Starmer had made Farage Ambassador, none of this would have happened.
Isn't there a vacancy there now?
Too late.

The King of all our hearts is our Prime Minister in waiting now. Ooh, I went all Chris Mason for a minute.

Surely as a Lord he's disqualified?

Oh, you mean Farage.

Leon · September 11

ydoethur said:

Leon said:

stodge said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
Well, you could write him his victory speech. You couldn't give it because your tongue is so firmly in your cheek you'd be unintelligible.
Are you seriously accusing Nigel Farage MP of securing a mortgage in his constituency of Clacton-on-Sea by “ejaculating onto the Pope for a TikTok bet”??

Really?? Because that’s what it sounds like. And respected PBers are bruiting this like it’s some credible hypothesis

Get a grip. This site is becoming ludicrous
It was bad enough when you were talking to yourself as Eadric, but if you're going to start accusing other posters of writing things you have written yourself under your own handle, that's a somewhat worrying development.

No. There is a limit and the adults on this site need to set it

A bit of banter is fine - we all like a joke now and again - but the idea Farage found the deposit for his Clacton mortgage by doing some kind of wagered and live-streamed bukkake onto the innocent upturned face of Pope Leo XIV, is for me, a banter too far

It’s insulting to Catholics worldwide and also to
Mortgage brokers

viewcode · September 11

Mexicanpete said:
Elon Musk "The left is the party of murder"

Jesse Waters declares war on the left

Laura Loomer "It's time for the Trump administration to shut down, defund, & prosecute every single leftist organisation"

Can we have a quote from Leon?

See also Unherd/Freddie Sayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwphU9Wh-BA&pp=ygUGdW5oZXJk (30 mins)

The mood on the right is scared and angry.

viewcode · September 11

geoffw said:
Same old, same old: yesterday Mandelson today Mandelsoff

Mine was better

"Mandleson? Mandlegone!"

wooliedyed · September 11

viewcode said:

geoffw said:
Same old, same old: yesterday Mandelson today Mandelsoff
Mine was better

"Mandleson? Mandlegone!"

Mandelson Mandelsgone is better

Mexicanpete · September 11

Leon said:

ydoethur said:

Leon said:

stodge said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
Well, you could write him his victory speech. You couldn't give it because your tongue is so firmly in your cheek you'd be unintelligible.
Are you seriously accusing Nigel Farage MP of securing a mortgage in his constituency of Clacton-on-Sea by “ejaculating onto the Pope for a TikTok bet”??

Really?? Because that’s what it sounds like. And respected PBers are bruiting this like it’s some credible hypothesis

Get a grip. This site is becoming ludicrous
It was bad enough when you were talking to yourself as Eadric, but if you're going to start accusing other posters of writing things you have written yourself under your own handle, that's a somewhat worrying development.
No. There is a limit and the adults on this site need to set it

A bit of banter is fine - we all like a joke now and again - but the idea Farage found the deposit for his Clacton mortgage by doing some kind of wagered and live-streamed bukkake onto the innocent upturned face of Pope Leo XIV, is for me, a banter too far

It’s insulting to Catholics worldwide and also to
Mortgage brokers

Babelfish, translate into English.

viewcode · September 11

Leon said:
No. There is a limit and the adults on this site need to set it

A bit of banter is fine - we all like a joke now and again - but the idea Farage found the deposit for his Clacton mortgage by doing some kind of wagered and live-streamed bukkake onto the innocent upturned face of Pope Leo XIV, is for me, a banter too far

It’s insulting to Catholics worldwide and also to Mortgage brokers

You're right. We should ban this henious miscreant. Let's look at the posting.

Leon said:
In fact - and I say this after some considerable and saturnine mentation - I HOPE Nigel got the money for his clacton house by ejaculating onto the Pope for a TikTok bet

Hanging is obviously too good for them.

Mexicanpete · September 11

ydoethur said:

Leon said:

stodge said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
Well, you could write him his victory speech. You couldn't give it because your tongue is so firmly in your cheek you'd be unintelligible.
Are you seriously accusing Nigel Farage MP of securing a mortgage in his constituency of Clacton-on-Sea by “ejaculating onto the Pope for a TikTok bet”??

Really?? Because that’s what it sounds like. And respected PBers are bruiting this like it’s some credible hypothesis

Get a grip. This site is becoming ludicrous
It was bad enough when you were talking to yourself as Eadric, but if you're going to start accusing other posters of writing things you have written yourself under your own handle, that's a somewhat worrying development.

Just wait until you read Leon's response to this post.

Stark_Dawning · September 11

HYUFD said:
Jacob Rees Mogg has just prayed in Latin for the soul of Charlie Kirk on his GB News show

Quite frankly Rees-Mogg is turning the man's death into a circus. Yes, we know Rees-Mogg knows some Latin. He doesn't have to parade it on this occasion and make it all about him. Poor taste in my opinion.

Leon · September 11

ydoethur said:

stodge said:

Leon said:

stodge said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
Well, you could write him his victory speech. You couldn't give it because your tongue is so firmly in your cheek you'd be unintelligible.
Are you seriously accusing Nigel Farage MP of securing a mortgage in his constituency of Clacton-on-Sea by “ejaculating onto the Pope for a TikTok bet”??

Really?? Because that’s what it sounds like. And respected PBers are bruiting this like it’s some credible hypothesis

Get a grip. This site is becoming ludicrous
No, never said at all as you well know.

I'm more interested in your traditional "let's kill off the left" message which you've bored us with in all your ridiculous incarnations for the last 15 years or more.

I suppose you'd prefer a two party system - the "hard right" and the "harder right" with power changing between the two based, rather like central American politics of the 1980s, on which group's death squads were more efficient.
If Nigel Farage masturbated on the Pope, he would at least be hard and on the right.

This is absolutely absurd. I can’t believe the pb Left is reduced to this kind of pathetic, libellous and frankly surreal speculation. You’re so scared of reform winning you’ll make up outrageous nonsense. “Oh yeah everyone knows Nigel masturbated onto the pope”

Don’t you realise how infantile you sound? No one will ever believe this. But, hey, knock yourselves out

Carnyx · September 11

Stark_Dawning said:

HYUFD said:
Jacob Rees Mogg has just prayed in Latin for the soul of Charlie Kirk on his GB News show
Quite frankly Rees-Mogg is turning the man's death into a circus. Yes, we know Rees-Mogg knows some Latin. He doesn't have to parade it on this occasion and make it all about him. Poor taste in my opinion.

Which pronunciation did he use, btw?

ohnotnow · September 11

viewcode said:

Leon said:
No. There is a limit and the adults on this site need to set it

A bit of banter is fine - we all like a joke now and again - but the idea Farage found the deposit for his Clacton mortgage by doing some kind of wagered and live-streamed bukkake onto the innocent upturned face of Pope Leo XIV, is for me, a banter too far

It’s insulting to Catholics worldwide and also to Mortgage brokers
You're right. We should ban this henious miscreant. Let's look at the posting.
Leon said:
In fact - and I say this after some considerable and saturnine mentation - I HOPE Nigel got the money for his clacton house by ejaculating onto the Pope for a TikTok bet
Hanging is obviously too good for them.

GPT or Claude would never have made that rookie alt-account mistake. I fear we are being short-changed with an inferior model.

Mexicanpete · September 11

HYUFD said:
Jacob Rees Mogg has just prayed in Latin for the soul of Charlie Kirk on his GB News show

Not to speak ill of the dead, but I suspect some of Mr Kirk's unchristian teachings require substantial prayer before St Peter lets him beyond the pearly gates.

ohnotnow · September 11

viewcode said:

Mexicanpete said:
Elon Musk "The left is the party of murder"

Jesse Waters declares war on the left

Laura Loomer "It's time for the Trump administration to shut down, defund, & prosecute every single leftist organisation"

Can we have a quote from Leon?
See also Unherd/Freddie Sayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwphU9Wh-BA&pp=ygUGdW5oZXJk (30 mins)

The mood on the right is scared and angry.

Wasn't it scared an angry before this too? Morerer scared and angry, possibly.

wooliedyed · September 11

The Vatican rumour turned out to be pretty gross then

carnforth · September 11

Leon said:

ydoethur said:

stodge said:

Leon said:

stodge said:

Leon said:
Who honestly gives a fuck about Nigel’s mortgage in Clacton?

Fact is the nation needs him and want him as prime minister. We all love him on this site - which is quite striking given the disparate views of Pb

Let’s just have an election and put him into number 10. Get it done. And pipe down about all this mortgage stuff. NO ONE CARES
Well, you could write him his victory speech. You couldn't give it because your tongue is so firmly in your cheek you'd be unintelligible.
Are you seriously accusing Nigel Farage MP of securing a mortgage in his constituency of Clacton-on-Sea by “ejaculating onto the Pope for a TikTok bet”??

Really?? Because that’s what it sounds like. And respected PBers are bruiting this like it’s some credible hypothesis

Get a grip. This site is becoming ludicrous
No, never said at all as you well know.

I'm more interested in your traditional "let's kill off the left" message which you've bored us with in all your ridiculous incarnations for the last 15 years or more.

I suppose you'd prefer a two party system - the "hard right" and the "harder right" with power changing between the two based, rather like central American politics of the 1980s, on which group's death squads were more efficient.
If Nigel Farage masturbated on the Pope, he would at least be hard and on the right.
This is absolutely absurd. I can’t believe the pb Left is reduced to this kind of pathetic, libellous and frankly surreal speculation. You’re so scared of reform winning you’ll make up outrageous nonsense. “Oh yeah everyone knows Nigel masturbated onto the pope”

Don’t you realise how infantile you sound? No one will ever believe this. But, hey, knock yourselves out

I looked this move up on Pope Urban Dictionary and it has a name I cannot transcribe here.

moonshine · September 11

Stark_Dawning said:

HYUFD said:
Jacob Rees Mogg has just prayed in Latin for the soul of Charlie Kirk on his GB News show
Quite frankly Rees-Mogg is turning the man's death into a circus. Yes, we know Rees-Mogg knows some Latin. He doesn't have to parade it on this occasion and make it all about him. Poor taste in my opinion.

He’s a Roman Catholic paying tribute in his own manner.

Carnyx · September 11

Getting worried. Leon now has to cancel himself. How does that work?

Foxy · September 11

Stark_Dawning said:

HYUFD said:
Jacob Rees Mogg has just prayed in Latin for the soul of Charlie Kirk on his GB News show
Quite frankly Rees-Mogg is turning the man's death into a circus. Yes, we know Rees-Mogg knows some Latin. He doesn't have to parade it on this occasion and make it all about him. Poor taste in my opinion.

"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."

Matthew 6: 5-6 KJV

moonshine · September 11

Daveyboy1961 said:
Officer Topic

Someone said earlier that they had a bet on for Starmer to resign in 2025. I've got a sneaking suspicion that that will come off.

It’s far from impossible. It depends whether that is the end of the Mandy story or if it unleashes decades of pent up scandal about him. Particularly so if it links back to Blair and/or Starmer.

The Graun seems to be openly wondering about Starmer tonight, as our plenty of Labour MPs. He might be one more scandal away from the end.

MattW · September 11

Sunil_Prasannan said:

MattW said:

Scott_xP said:

TheScreamingEagles said:
First?
You have no honor. You have no code!
Astonished you have not been called out by now.

"Honor", as a spelling, is not honourable.
Honor Blackman
Honor Oak Park

Honor Oak is an affectation from the French. Dishonourable.
Honor the name is also via the French. Nearly as dishonourable.

To address the actual usage. Honor Code is an Americanism. Dishonourable.

wooliedyed · September 11

For flag lovers, I can report the latest shenanigans reported in the Eastern Daily Press, we have Flag erectors versus Locals versus the Mosque.

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/25457699.national-flags-put-norwich-tensions-rise/

I am prolier than thou – politicalbetting.com

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