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  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,796

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

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    Nigelb said:

    I think Asian allies of the US increasingly believe they are dealing with a fundamentally racist administration. Can't imagine how they got that impression. But I've heard similar from Indians
    https://x.com/gideonrachman/status/1964995089480266031

    S. Korea's entire media establishment across political spectrum has united in unprecedented editorial consensus expressing profound betrayal, outrage, national humiliation, and fundamental breach of US-ROK alliance re: mass arrest of Korean workers at Hyundai's Georgia plant.
    https://x.com/koryodynasty/status/1964894916632604784

    Meanwhile.

    New high of Americans saying immigration is good for the US
    https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1964707215866257819
    ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
    Thrilling comment from you there, AB.
    I feel sorry in some ways for the PB Lefties.

    After 14 years of crap government you are meant to be rubbing the Right;s nose in it as the grown ups take charge.

    Instead we have a total shitshow Starmer is just continuity Sunak and Labour have come in to power with few ideas. There is nothing good to say about this government.

    As a result the PB Left have all gone in to their comfort zones for you it's talking more about the US than your own country - the comfort blanket of opposing Trump - for others its the comfort of criticising the previous 14 years rather than talking about the next 4.,

    Have all the PB Lefties run out of ideas ?
    Highest growth in the G7
    Disposable incomes rise fastest since Thatcher
    NHS waiting lists falling
    Asylum backlog about half what it was in June 2023
    Probably the best US tariff rate anyone has managed
  • isamisam Posts: 42,576

    isam said:

    I hate the Telegraph, they’ve nicked an idea for an upcoming thread I had (although mine was about Britain rather than just England)

    Reform’s biggest problem? Many of them don’t seem to like England

    A lot of their senior leaders are driven by Right-wing ideology, not a patriotic love of nation


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/08/reform-biggest-problem-dont-seem-to-like-england/

    Patriotism is about as easy to define as class, in other words it can be twisted to mean anything and then used to accuse others of not being sufficiently worthy. Left wingers will say Britain is a nation of immigrants, so anyone anti mass immigration is unpatriotic, right wingers can say anyone who doesn’t wave the flag enough isn’t a patriot. It’s not a discussion that will ever see consensus. For what it’s worth I wouldn’t consider myself patriotic at all really.
    That is a pretty narrow definition in both directions of patriotism. Loving or hating foreigners seems a pretty weak notion of patriotism.

    How about buying only British where possible or being prepared to die for what one's nation represents against an aggressive foreign nation foe. I'd be prepared to do both, not that I would be much use in the latter category at 63.

    Flying a flag demonstrates very little, when I was much younger I used to display a small Union flag on my (politically British, but Cologne made) Ford car as a message to buy British. So even centre-left traitors like me show the right sort of flag sometimes. It didn't make me a patriot.
    Well you make my point for me, thanks
  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 278
    nico67 said:

    scampi25 said:

    nico67 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @KevinASchofield
    SCOOP: Emily Thornberry asking Labour MPs to back her for deputy leader.

    In a message seen by HuffPost UK, she says: "Welfare, Gaza, employment rights, wealth inequality - too many mistakes. We’ve been telling them and they aren’t listening."

    I like her but don’t think she has a chance of winning .
    I'd be delighted if she won as would all good right wingers.
    Sorry to disappoint you because I just can’t see her winning.
    Oh I know but for sure some other left winger will get the gaff.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,554

    Stocky said:

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    .

    Nigelb said:

    I think Asian allies of the US increasingly believe they are dealing with a fundamentally racist administration. Can't imagine how they got that impression. But I've heard similar from Indians
    https://x.com/gideonrachman/status/1964995089480266031

    S. Korea's entire media establishment across political spectrum has united in unprecedented editorial consensus expressing profound betrayal, outrage, national humiliation, and fundamental breach of US-ROK alliance re: mass arrest of Korean workers at Hyundai's Georgia plant.
    https://x.com/koryodynasty/status/1964894916632604784

    Meanwhile.

    New high of Americans saying immigration is good for the US
    https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1964707215866257819
    ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
    Thrilling comment from you there, AB.
    I feel sorry in some ways for the PB Lefties.

    After 14 years of crap government you are meant to be rubbing the Right;s nose in it as the grown ups take charge.

    Instead we have a total shitshow Starmer is just continuity Sunak and Labour have come in to power with few ideas. There is nothing good to say about this government.

    As a result the PB Left have all gone in to their comfort zones for you it's talking more about the US than your own country - the comfort blanket of opposing Trump - for others its the comfort of criticising the previous 14 years rather than talking about the next 4.,

    Have all the PB Lefties run out of ideas ?
    Alan, I cannot see how you can possibly categorise this dreadful government as 'just continuity Sunak' when in their first year they have:

    - Cancelled the cap that was coming for social care fees
    - Cancelled measures to secure free speech in universities
    - Scrapped Ofsted school summary gradings
    - Given the Chagos away
    - Removed historical paintings from No 10
    - changed fiscal rules so they can borrow even more
    - Intensify agitations for absurd reparations
    - Award public sector pay demands in full
    - Cancelled forthcoming policy to prioritise uk residents of 10 years + getting social accommodation
    - cancelled Rwanda scheme

    Plus the disastrous Employment Rights Bill:

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/67f6711f555773bbf109e21a/employment-rights-bill-overview.pdf

    because most of the things you mention have been the consequence of so called Conservatives. Free speech got trashed, Cleverly kicked off Chagos, paintings were on walls as Sunak raced home from DDay, Boris borrowed like a drunken sailor and threw open the borders etc. etc,

    Until somebody tackles the failings of the post 1997 sett;lement we are all stuffed.
    The social care cap was never going to happen under any government, it had already been postponed and there were no plans for funding it.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,761
    Andy_JS said:

    The latest celebrity to show an interesting in buying a property in the Cotswolds: Beyonce.

    https://www.thetimes.com/culture/music/article/beyonce-buy-house-cotswolds-winnington-gcr53kbv5

    Can we let them all in, then put a wall round it?

    We can call it Stalag Luft IV.
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