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  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,284
    Ooof. One way to gerrymander the voting.

    Florida man who fatally stabbed friend over Trump convicted of second-degree murder
    Donald Jamesbrown Henry and Shawn Popp got into a fight over ‘Trump going bankrupt’ when the latter was attacked

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/19/florida-man-stabbed-friend-trump-murder-conviction
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,624
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    algarkirk said:

    Sandpit said:

    Random pub quiz question, to which I don’t know the answer.

    How many transport hubs are named after religious figures?

    I only ask because I’m now sitting in the lounge at John Paul II airport in Krakow. Next stop: Frankfurt.

    London Victoria is named after the former head of the Church of England. London Marylebone is named in part after Jesus's mum. London Blackfriars is named after a religious order.
    Does Mohammed V International Airport in Morocco count? Or Corazón de Jesús airstrip in Panama?
    When I was in my teens I heard an entire Gospel presentation based on a Journey round the London Underground. I can't recall whether it was a single sermon, or a series spread out over the day or the week. It may even have been based on just the Circle Line.

    Looking back, it was quite creatively done. I can see how it could be created, looking at a list of Underground Stations.

    Inevitably (whether you know how these sermons work or not) it ended at King's Cross for the (usually, not always) slightly foot shuffling British version of an altar call.
    In the UK, pretty much everything named as a Saint, even though we do not think of them as such because they are named after places named after such people. On the Underground - St Paul's, St James Park, St John's Wood, St Pancras, Latimer Road (the martyr?). And many more.
    St James's Park.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 13,419
    Andy_JS said:

    Focaldata have a little change poll out and a version with YP
    https://x.com/focaldataHQ/status/1958176345571074077?s=19

    4% for YP with them.

    Ref 29 (+2) 28 (+1)
    Lab 24 (+1) 23 (=)
    Con 18 (-1) 18 (-1)
    LD 14 (=) 14 (=)
    Grn 8 (-1) 7 (-2)
    YP n/a 4 (new)

    Looks like they're hitting the Greens more than Lab.
    One point off each in this poll, which is a bigger chunk of the green total.
    I think an established YP might reduce the average polling of Grn, Lab and LD by a point to 2 points with a few NOTA/Reform but not right wing thrown in
    Obviously we will see once regular polling commences. I guess Greens suffer because they are fishing the same pond. Will be interesting to see if LD as 'NOTA' votes peel off (i don't think dedicated LDs will be attracted)
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,624
    Carnyx said:
    Splendid, hope to combine the newly remodelled East Kilbride branch with Kilmarmock to Troon (westbound). Did the latter eastbound TWICE (2018, 2019), but for scheduling reasons never westbound.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 15,812
    boulay said:

    Sean_F said:

    algarkirk said:

    Nigelb said:

    Sandpit said:

    Random pub quiz question, to which I don’t know the answer.

    How many transport hubs are named after religious figures?

    I only ask because I’m now sitting in the lounge at John Paul II airport in Krakow. Next stop: Frankfurt.

    Plenty of railway stations.

    Tirana International Airport - Nënë Tereza
    And, FPT, San Francisco and San Jose.
    St Petersburg central bus station, Russia. St John's Wood tube and St James' Park.
    St. Paul's, Angel, and Whitechapel.
    Mornington Crescent.
    Liverpool John Lennon Airport. In his own estimation, at least.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,995
    edited August 20
    It's annoying how a lot of places close earlier than they did 15 years ago. For instance my local swimming/gym place used to be open to 10:30pm on weekdays, then it was 10:15, then 10, and then after the pandemic it went down to 9pm. At the weekend it used to be 9, now it's 8.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 13,419
    Andy_JS said:

    It's annoying how a lot of places close earlier than they did 15 years ago. For instance my local swimming/gym place used to be open to 10:30pm on weekdays, then it was 10:15, then 10, and then after the pandemic it went down to 9pm.

    Shops wise late night opening (used to be Thursday) has ceased to exist in Norwich.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 10,628
    Battlebus said:

    Nigelb said:

    This is technically very impressive.
    But why does it remind me of Joe Biden ?
    https://x.com/adcock_brett/status/1958193476639826383

    Biden doing the laundry

    https://x.com/adcock_brett/status/1950685253447913798
    And when it decides that the dress the little girl is wearing is dirty and needs to be put in the washing machine?
  • hamiltonacehamiltonace Posts: 698
    Nigelb said:

    If only they'd consulted the experts.

    US Navy’s big plan for drone fleets to counter China is stumbling hard, - Reuters

    Test boats are crashing due to software bugs, a key autonomy contract with L3Harris got paused, and the Navy even fired the admiral running the program.

    Billions are being poured in, but right now the drones aren’t ready and the whole effort’s under review.

    https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1958112279200973107


    The way war is being fought is changing in front of our eyes and the USA is behind the curve. I have one son in Berlin and one in NY. Both of them say that they and their friends are being targeted with big money to join the defence industry due to their technical skills. The Germans are working very close with Ukraine and their technology is being tested on a daily basis. Being shot by another solider is disappearing instead soldiers face a constant fight with robots. This is robot wars in gruesome reality.


  • kjhkjh Posts: 13,054
    MattW said:

    Ooof. One way to gerrymander the voting.

    Florida man who fatally stabbed friend over Trump convicted of second-degree murder
    Donald Jamesbrown Henry and Shawn Popp got into a fight over ‘Trump going bankrupt’ when the latter was attacked

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/19/florida-man-stabbed-friend-trump-murder-conviction

    Sounds like a draw. One dead and one in prison so neither can vote. We have some odd election laws here. I was involved in a legal case (as a witness I hasten to add) where efforts were made to influence an election. A criminal act was involved but because it wasn't the agent or the candidate it had no impact. You can literally send canvassers out and get them to murder anyone who says they are going to vote for your opponent and it doesn't impact the election even if they get sent down for murder. Because in this case it involved fraud we realised they would have to declare it on the election expenses and bust the limit or not declare it and be subject to a challenge. I felt sorry for the agent as he was an innocent party.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,995
    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 35,498

    Nigelb said:

    If only they'd consulted the experts.

    US Navy’s big plan for drone fleets to counter China is stumbling hard, - Reuters

    Test boats are crashing due to software bugs, a key autonomy contract with L3Harris got paused, and the Navy even fired the admiral running the program.

    Billions are being poured in, but right now the drones aren’t ready and the whole effort’s under review.

    https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1958112279200973107


    The way war is being fought is changing in front of our eyes and the USA is behind the curve. I have one son in Berlin and one in NY. Both of them say that they and their friends are being targeted with big money to join the defence industry due to their technical skills. The Germans are working very close with Ukraine and their technology is being tested on a daily basis. Being shot by another solider is disappearing instead soldiers face a constant fight with robots. This is robot wars in gruesome reality.


    One off my sons works for a firm which manufactures drones. They're going great guns (ahem) in Ukraine.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,401
    On the recent polling:


    Andrew Lilico
    @andrew_lilico

    What else did they expect? The voters couldn't have been clearer that they didn't want Sunakism. Then Starmer came in & brought us Sunakism-only-more-so.

    https://x.com/andrew_lilico/status/1958135945879798078
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,284
    What excellent work by Hope not Hate.

    Do you think Jenrick & Co really don't know the extremist political / violent neo-fascist / organised crime criminal nexus they are playing in the shallows of?

    This guy (Matt Twomey) is an associate of Paul Golding, who is attached to Tommy Robinson and came up via the BNP and Britain First, amassing a criminal record along the way. eg Golding and Robinson:

    Golding, of Hodder Bank, Stockport, spoke only to confirm his name, date of birth, address and nationality.

    English Defence League founder Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, watched the proceedings in the court’s physically distanced public gallery.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/20/britain-first-leader-paul-golding-convicted-under-terrorism-law
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,889
    Government prepares to take over UK's third largest steelworks

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0yd0829m4o
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 1,387

    Government prepares to take over UK's third largest steelworks

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0yd0829m4o

    Dodgy financing at the core. Ties to Cameron?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjeev_Gupta
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,284
    MattW said:

    What excellent work by Hope not Hate.

    Do you think Jenrick & Co really don't know the extremist political / violent neo-fascist / organised crime criminal nexus they are playing in the shallows of?

    This guy (Matt Twomey) is an associate of Paul Golding, who is attached to Tommy Robinson and came up via the BNP and Britain First, amassing a criminal record along the way. eg Golding and Robinson:

    Golding, of Hodder Bank, Stockport, spoke only to confirm his name, date of birth, address and nationality.

    English Defence League founder Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, watched the proceedings in the court’s physically distanced public gallery.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/20/britain-first-leader-paul-golding-convicted-under-terrorism-law
    Typo - Twamley not Twomey.
  • PJHPJH Posts: 892
    Andy_JS said:

    It's annoying how a lot of places close earlier than they did 15 years ago. For instance my local swimming/gym place used to be open to 10:30pm on weekdays, then it was 10:15, then 10, and then after the pandemic it went down to 9pm. At the weekend it used to be 9, now it's 8.

    I always used to do my food shopping early in the morning. Since Covid nowhere now opens earlier than 8, which is too late to have time to do it before work. Luckily my nearest supermarket stays open until 10 but even then it's a bit of a rush to get in an out before then. It used to be a 24 hour one.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 141
    Carnyx said:

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/25405283.scottish-labour-msp-colin-smyth-suspended-party/

    Now charged. No date set for trial yet.

    SLabour now has 21 MSPs because they suspended him and he's now an independent.



    I think he was selected as Slab candidate for Dumfriesshire
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,995
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 32,350
    edited August 20
    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    What excellent work by Hope not Hate.

    Do you think Jenrick & Co really don't know the extremist political / violent neo-fascist / organised crime criminal nexus they are playing in the shallows of?

    This guy (Matt Twomey) is an associate of Paul Golding, who is attached to Tommy Robinson and came up via the BNP and Britain First, amassing a criminal record along the way. eg Golding and Robinson:

    Golding, of Hodder Bank, Stockport, spoke only to confirm his name, date of birth, address and nationality.

    English Defence League founder Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, watched the proceedings in the court’s physically distanced public gallery.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/20/britain-first-leader-paul-golding-convicted-under-terrorism-law
    Typo - Twamley not Twomey.
    To demand that somebody cease to express a viewpoint, or question prevailing political philosophies and laws, because to do so is to, 'play in the shallows', or 'give succour to', or 'align with' unsavoury people is intellectually insupportable and frankly weasel-like behaviour.

    If you disagree with something Jenrick is saying and think your explanations are better, make the argument rather than attempting to smear him by infantile semi-allegations.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,924
    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,889
    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
    The second part of the statement is a given from the first....
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,624

    Nigelb said:

    If only they'd consulted the experts.

    US Navy’s big plan for drone fleets to counter China is stumbling hard, - Reuters

    Test boats are crashing due to software bugs, a key autonomy contract with L3Harris got paused, and the Navy even fired the admiral running the program.

    Billions are being poured in, but right now the drones aren’t ready and the whole effort’s under review.

    https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1958112279200973107


    The way war is being fought is changing in front of our eyes and the USA is behind the curve. I have one son in Berlin and one in NY. Both of them say that they and their friends are being targeted with big money to join the defence industry due to their technical skills. The Germans are working very close with Ukraine and their technology is being tested on a daily basis. Being shot by another solider is disappearing instead soldiers face a constant fight with robots. This is robot wars in gruesome reality.


    One off my sons works for a firm which manufactures drones. They're going great guns (ahem) in Ukraine.
    "He will make an excellent drone!"

    Sorry :lol:
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,995
    TSE: had Mike Smithson and you met in person when he first asked you to be a guest editor? Just curious.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,624
    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
    I prefer grasshoppers (ba-dum-tish).
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,924

    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
    I prefer grasshoppers (ba-dum-tish).
    Not bad for a joke made on the fly.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,401
    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar

    Vance and Hegseth are meeting with National Guard troops in DC as protesters loudly chant "Free DC!"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1958208860398714982
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,924

    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar

    Vance and Hegseth are meeting with National Guard troops in DC as protesters loudly chant "Free DC!"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1958208860398714982

    Why? Are the National Guard giving out free booze?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,624
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
    I prefer grasshoppers (ba-dum-tish).
    Not bad for a joke made on the fly.
    Bee in your bonnet, ydoethur?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,624
    edited August 20
    ydoethur said:

    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar

    Vance and Hegseth are meeting with National Guard troops in DC as protesters loudly chant "Free DC!"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1958208860398714982

    Why? Are the National Guard giving out free booze?
    Free DC Lee!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqfsiSpfv-g
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,401
    Looks like Trump's "peace" efforts are done.

    Russia says no way unless it is involved in "securing" Ukraine.

    It really is a surprise.
  • Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar

    Vance and Hegseth are meeting with National Guard troops in DC as protesters loudly chant "Free DC!"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1958208860398714982

    Comic Con has gone out of control.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,924

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
    I prefer grasshoppers (ba-dum-tish).
    Not bad for a joke made on the fly.
    Bee in your bonnet, ydoethur?
    No need to be waspish.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,924

    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar

    Vance and Hegseth are meeting with National Guard troops in DC as protesters loudly chant "Free DC!"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1958208860398714982

    Comic Con has gone out of control.
    There's nothing comic about those con artists.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,624

    Looks like Trump's "peace" efforts are done.

    Russia says no way unless it is involved in "securing" Ukraine.

    It really is a surprise.

    That LYING POS (aka DOPEY DONALD) promised he would SORT OUT the Ukraine/Russia War within TWENTY-FOUR HOURS! It's now ALMOST SEVEN MONTHS since he took office, and the war IS STILL ONGOING!

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!!!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,924

    Looks like Trump's "peace" efforts are done.

    Russia says no way unless it is involved in "securing" Ukraine.

    It really is a surprise.

    That LYING POS (aka DOPEY DONALD) promised he would SORT OUT the Ukraine/Russia War within TWENTY-FOUR HOURS! It's now ALMOST SEVEN MONTHS since he took office, and the war IS STILL ONGOING!

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!!!
    Is that you, or Gavin Newsom, or the White House Twitter feed?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,401

    Looks like Trump's "peace" efforts are done.

    Russia says no way unless it is involved in "securing" Ukraine.

    It really is a surprise.

    That LYING POS (aka DOPEY DONALD) promised he would SORT OUT the Ukraine/Russia War within TWENTY-FOUR HOURS! It's now ALMOST SEVEN MONTHS since he took office, and the war IS STILL ONGOING!

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!!!
    Thanks GAVIN !!!!
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 1,387

    Looks like Trump's "peace" efforts are done.

    Russia says no way unless it is involved in "securing" Ukraine.

    It really is a surprise.

    Berlin 2.0
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,624

    Looks like Trump's "peace" efforts are done.

    Russia says no way unless it is involved in "securing" Ukraine.

    It really is a surprise.

    That LYING POS (aka DOPEY DONALD) promised he would SORT OUT the Ukraine/Russia War within TWENTY-FOUR HOURS! It's now ALMOST SEVEN MONTHS since he took office, and the war IS STILL ONGOING!

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!!!
    Thanks GAVIN !!!!
    FAKE NEWS, it's GOVERNOR SUNIL of PB!!
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,401

    Burnley MP speaks out:


    Oliver Ryan MP
    @OliverRyanUK

    Things are getting serious now.

    It's time for some facts about local Houses of Multiple Occupation (HMOs) and asylum hotels, to stop the nonsense. Lets have it right - concerns about illegal migration are valid, but people in our area are being targeted & its got to stop.
    🧵 1/2

    https://x.com/OliverRyanUK/status/1958203397963714910
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,413

    Looks like Trump's "peace" efforts are done.

    Russia says no way unless it is involved in "securing" Ukraine.

    It really is a surprise.

    So we have disagreements on:
    - Where the border should be
    - Whether a meaningful security guarantee can be given
    - Whether Putin will even meet Zelensky
    - ... And I assume lots more

    My guess it Ukraine fades back off the headlines within a week as reality sets in
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,093
    edited August 20
    Battlebus said:

    Government prepares to take over UK's third largest steelworks

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0yd0829m4o

    Dodgy financing at the core. Ties to Cameron?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjeev_Gupta
    I'm afraid I am connected with Sanjeev.

    We were both in the same year at Trinity.

    He read economics while running a business from his college room. He had a fax machine and a phone put in.

    I read detective novels and drank cheap red wine by the bucketload.

    I got on quite well with Sanjeev, largely because I was one of the few people in the year who didn't take him seriously. (I used to greet him "Ah, Sanjeev Gupta, Gupta Enterprises, sir!") He used to occasionally bother me when I worked at Goldman Sachs and he was looking for funding.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 67,401

    (((Harry Enten)))
    @ForecasterEnten
    Newsom's social media strategy/opposition to Trump is working.

    He's gained millions of social media followers. Google searches for him are up like a rocket.

    He's now the frontrunner for the 2028 Dem nomination per the prediction markets.

    It's cause Democrats want a fighter.

    https://x.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1958198697285607695
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,648
    @jamisonfoser.bsky.social‬

    if you've never seen a guy try to sound tough while whining about getting his ass kicked by 90 year olds, check this out

    https://bsky.app/profile/jamisonfoser.bsky.social/post/3lwtwvtbfkk2s
  • CookieCookie Posts: 15,812
    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
    Prompted by this post, I've been to have a look at tge BBC cricket page and just found something else to vex me about the Hundred: in the scores and tables, they appear to have dropped any attempt to link teams with places: instead, teams are just reported as 'Fire', 'Spirit', 'Originals', amd so on. Now of course, I find 'Welsh', 'Southern' and 'Trent' daft. ("Who are we playing Dad?" "Southern"). But less daft than nothing at all.

    Hundred: Your teams are Lancashire, Yorkshire, Nottingamshire, Warwickshire, Glamorgan, Hampshire, Surrey and Middlesex.
    And you are missing ten teams.
    And a ball each over.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 10,628
    Andy_JS said:
    Surely just a Keynesian make work scheme - dog a hole and fill it in. Smuggle people on, fly them out, etc
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,356

    MattW said:

    MattW said:

    What excellent work by Hope not Hate.

    Do you think Jenrick & Co really don't know the extremist political / violent neo-fascist / organised crime criminal nexus they are playing in the shallows of?

    This guy (Matt Twomey) is an associate of Paul Golding, who is attached to Tommy Robinson and came up via the BNP and Britain First, amassing a criminal record along the way. eg Golding and Robinson:

    Golding, of Hodder Bank, Stockport, spoke only to confirm his name, date of birth, address and nationality.

    English Defence League founder Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, watched the proceedings in the court’s physically distanced public gallery.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/20/britain-first-leader-paul-golding-convicted-under-terrorism-law
    Typo - Twamley not Twomey.
    To demand that somebody cease to express a viewpoint, or question prevailing political philosophies and laws, because to do so is to, 'play in the shallows', or 'give succour to', or 'align with' unsavoury people is intellectually insupportable and frankly weasel-like behaviour.

    You talking about the PA protests ?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,941
    DoctorG said:

    Carnyx said:

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/25405283.scottish-labour-msp-colin-smyth-suspended-party/

    Now charged. No date set for trial yet.

    SLabour now has 21 MSPs because they suspended him and he's now an independent.



    I think he was selected as Slab candidate for Dumfriesshire
    On checking, in 2021 he did stand for it as a constituency, and lost, but got in on the list.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,109
    Cookie said:

    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
    Prompted by this post, I've been to have a look at tge BBC cricket page and just found something else to vex me about the Hundred: in the scores and tables, they appear to have dropped any attempt to link teams with places: instead, teams are just reported as 'Fire', 'Spirit', 'Originals', amd so on. Now of course, I find 'Welsh', 'Southern' and 'Trent' daft. ("Who are we playing Dad?" "Southern"). But less daft than nothing at all.

    Hundred: Your teams are Lancashire, Yorkshire, Nottingamshire, Warwickshire, Glamorgan, Hampshire, Surrey and Middlesex.
    And you are missing ten teams.
    And a ball each over.
    I don't understand the problem that the Hundred is meant to solve that 20:20 doesn’t.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,326
    edited August 20
    Andy_JS said:

    TSE: had Mike Smithson and you met in person when he first asked you to be a guest editor? Just curious.

    Yes and no.

    We'd be in regular communication for about a year, as I used to send him articles from The Times as at the time they used Populus for their polls and he really rated Populus (plus on Saturday night I'd send him the polls from the daily YouGov).

    I then sent him my thoughts on why I thought Chris Huhne had committed perjury based on articles in The Times.

    OGH rang me en March 2012 and said he was going on holiday in May/June and he'd like me to edit PB.

    We met up a few weeks later before I took the hot seat.

    So it's all thanks to Chris Huhne and Rupert Murdoch taking The Times behind a paywall that got me the job.

    Edit The Times also used to commission Ipsos polls on Scotland which I also shared with OGH as we both knew the Indyref would be an epic betting market.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,941
    edited August 20
    ydoethur said:

    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar

    Vance and Hegseth are meeting with National Guard troops in DC as protesters loudly chant "Free DC!"

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1958208860398714982

    Comic Con has gone out of control.
    There's nothing comic about those con artists.
    That really confused me - I'd just been reading this about the (local) Comic Con, held on top of a melting ice rink: the poor folk were not happy bunnies, but I didn't think they'd got that robust in their response.

    'Ms Reid said traders were not properly warned about the ice rink.

    She said: "We were told it shouldn't affect the stalls in any way, it would just be a bit cold. There was no mention of water on the floor, or of condensation.

    "I walked in and saw puddles on parts of the floor.

    "Staff were trying to dry the bits where people were walking around on, but they couldn't get enough room. So we were just standing in puddles all day."'

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2v8k9zmzeo
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,648
    It Took Many Years And Billions Of Dollars, But Microsoft Finally Invented A Calculator That Is Wrong Sometimes

    It's not AI winter just yet, though there is a distinct chill in the air. Meta is shaking up and downsizing its artificial intelligence division. A new report out of MIT finds that 95 percent of companies' generative AI programs have failed to earn any profit whatsoever. Tech stocks tanked Tuesday, regarding broader fears that this bubble may have swelled about as large as it can go. Surely, there will be no wider repercussions for normal people if and when Nvidia, currently propping up the market like a load-bearing matchstick, finally runs out of fake companies to sell chips to. But getting in under the wire, before we're all bartering gas in the desert and people who can read become the priestly caste, is Microsoft, with the single most "Who asked for this?" application of AI I've seen yet: They're jamming it into Excel.

    https://defector.com/it-took-many-years-and-billions-of-dollars-but-microsoft-finally-invented-a-calculator-that-is-wrong-sometimes
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,093

    Cookie said:

    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
    Prompted by this post, I've been to have a look at tge BBC cricket page and just found something else to vex me about the Hundred: in the scores and tables, they appear to have dropped any attempt to link teams with places: instead, teams are just reported as 'Fire', 'Spirit', 'Originals', amd so on. Now of course, I find 'Welsh', 'Southern' and 'Trent' daft. ("Who are we playing Dad?" "Southern"). But less daft than nothing at all.

    Hundred: Your teams are Lancashire, Yorkshire, Nottingamshire, Warwickshire, Glamorgan, Hampshire, Surrey and Middlesex.
    And you are missing ten teams.
    And a ball each over.
    I don't understand the problem that the Hundred is meant to solve that 20:20 doesn’t.
    That's because The Hundred is a solution is search of a problem.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,326

    Cookie said:

    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
    Prompted by this post, I've been to have a look at tge BBC cricket page and just found something else to vex me about the Hundred: in the scores and tables, they appear to have dropped any attempt to link teams with places: instead, teams are just reported as 'Fire', 'Spirit', 'Originals', amd so on. Now of course, I find 'Welsh', 'Southern' and 'Trent' daft. ("Who are we playing Dad?" "Southern"). But less daft than nothing at all.

    Hundred: Your teams are Lancashire, Yorkshire, Nottingamshire, Warwickshire, Glamorgan, Hampshire, Surrey and Middlesex.
    And you are missing ten teams.
    And a ball each over.
    I don't understand the problem that the Hundred is meant to solve that 20:20 doesn’t.
    Funding, the ECB consider the Hundred a success because they've flogged the franchises off for hundreds of millions of pounds.

    I mentioned last week I am attending a match as a guest of somebody involved buying the franchises next week.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,602
    Scott_xP said:

    @PpollingNumbers

    Elon Musk is reportedly considering supporting JD Vance for a potential 2028 presidential run.

    Given Vance is VP he will be favourite for the GOP nomination but will need Musk's money too, ideologically Musk is now closer to Vance than Trump.

    Problem for Vance is while he is more intelligent than Trump he is less charismatic
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,326
    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @PpollingNumbers

    Elon Musk is reportedly considering supporting JD Vance for a potential 2028 presidential run.

    Given Vance is VP he will be favourite for the GOP nomination but will need Musk's money too, ideologically Musk is now closer to Vance than Trump.

    Problem for Vance is while he is more intelligent than Trump he is less charismatic
    Congratulations to you and your wife on your truly joyous news.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,356
    rcs1000 said:

    Battlebus said:

    Government prepares to take over UK's third largest steelworks

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0yd0829m4o

    Dodgy financing at the core. Ties to Cameron?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjeev_Gupta
    I'm afraid I am connected with Sanjeev.

    We were both in the same year at Trinity.

    He read economics while running a business from his college room. He had a fax machine and a phone put in.

    I read detective novels and drank cheap red wine by the bucketload.

    I got on quite well with Sanjeev, largely because I was one of the few people in the year who didn't take him seriously. (I used to greet him "Ah, Sanjeev Gupta, Gupta Enterprises, sir!") He used to occasionally bother me when I worked at Goldman Sachs and he was looking for funding.
    ...In October 2024, Gupta was being prosecuted by Companies House for failing to file accounts for 76 companies listed in Britain, including Liberty Commodities. Gupta pled not guilty..
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 15,250

    Andy_JS said:
    Surely just a Keynesian make work scheme - dog a hole and fill it in. Smuggle people on, fly them out, etc
    There's a rural one too. Post war agriculture policy: pay farmers to pull up hedges, destroy woodland and poison the fields for about 60 years; then pay them to put it all back to normal again.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,602
    edited August 20

    Andy_JS said:

    "(((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges

    So let me get this right. The Government’s lawyers are arguing asylum hotels must remain open, the Prime Minister has said his policy is to close them because there’s lots of spare housing, and his Ministers are saying they’re unsustainable, but there aren’t any alternatives."

    https://x.com/DPJHodges/status/1958131156009803884

    I don't see a contradiction: they are needed now, but policy is to get us to a situation where they aren't needed.
    It is becoming very hard to see how Labour can turn their poll ratings around. They are no longer being given the benefit of doubt. On the other side it is intriguing how the Tories have taken on close down the asylum hotels. They have been the only party at the demos and Epping Council is Tory lead. I feel Farage has been too cautious on this and is losing control of the agenda.


    No. Although EFDC led the way on getting the case to court to close the Bell Hotel no Tory councillors on EFDC attended the protests, even if Jenrick turned up when Kemi went to Epping she met with residents in a pub she did not attend the protests either.

    The one Reform councillor on EFDC (who is also the Ongar county councillor) did attend the protests however as did representatives from the far right Homeland Party, the British Democrats and the UKIP leader
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,356

    Cookie said:

    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
    Prompted by this post, I've been to have a look at tge BBC cricket page and just found something else to vex me about the Hundred: in the scores and tables, they appear to have dropped any attempt to link teams with places: instead, teams are just reported as 'Fire', 'Spirit', 'Originals', amd so on. Now of course, I find 'Welsh', 'Southern' and 'Trent' daft. ("Who are we playing Dad?" "Southern"). But less daft than nothing at all.

    Hundred: Your teams are Lancashire, Yorkshire, Nottingamshire, Warwickshire, Glamorgan, Hampshire, Surrey and Middlesex.
    And you are missing ten teams.
    And a ball each over.
    I don't understand the problem that the Hundred is meant to solve that 20:20 doesn’t.
    What can we do that's like 20:20, but isn't ?

    An unnecessary problem.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,356
    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @PpollingNumbers

    Elon Musk is reportedly considering supporting JD Vance for a potential 2028 presidential run.

    Given Vance is VP he will be favourite for the GOP nomination but will need Musk's money too, ideologically Musk is now closer to Vance than Trump.

    Problem for Vance is while he is more intelligent than Trump he is less charismatic
    Problem for Vance is that Musk is considerably more unpopular than he is.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,995
    edited August 20
    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
    The bizarre thing (for me) is that I paid absolutely no attention to the first 4 series of the Hundred between 2021 and 2024 because I assumed it was total rubbish, but this year I've suddenly become interested in it. Maybe I decided some cricket is better than no cricket in August. I've been to 5 of them in person and the atmosphere is fantastic and there are lots of young families getting their children interested in the game, so I have to admit — I got it totally wrong for 5 years.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,093
    Andy_JS said:

    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
    The bizarre thing (for me) is that I paid absolutely no attention to the first 4 series of the Hundred between 2021 and 2024 because I assumed it was total rubbish, but this year I've suddenly become interested in it. Maybe I decided some cricket is better than no cricket in August. I've been to 5 of them in person and the atmosphere is fantastic and there are lots of young families getting their children interested in the game, so I have to admit — I got it totally wrong for 5 years.
    I went to a game at Lords last year, and I agree they do a great job of getting young families there for the game.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,326
    edited August 20
    Trump and Gabbard are doing to the intelligence community what they did to the Bureau of Labor Statistics

    My understanding is that the list of people whose clearances have been revoked by Gabbard includes a career civil servant who was until recently the most senior Russia analyst in the CIA, and remains a senior official in the organisation. (The NYT previously reported that the list included a senior CIA analyst; see below).

    They—like the NSA's Vinh Nguyen—were presumably targeted because of their prior association with the 'Intelligence Community Assessment [ICA] on Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent Elections', the report which described Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election.

    I think that would constitute one of the most significant Russia-related purges we have seen to date & with potentially severe consequences for US intelligence analysts' ability to report honestly and candidly on Russia related issues.


    https://x.com/shashj/status/1958239330897662171
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,602

    Focaldata have a little change poll out and a version with YP
    https://x.com/focaldataHQ/status/1958176345571074077?s=19

    4% for YP with them.

    Ref 29 (+2) 28 (+1)
    Lab 24 (+1) 23 (=)
    Con 18 (-1) 18 (-1)
    LD 14 (=) 14 (=)
    Grn 8 (-1) 7 (-2)
    YP n/a 4 (new)

    Labour will be pleased with that, they are only down 1% with Corbyn's party, surprisingly the same percentage Reform are down when YP are included. The Greens hit most by Corbyn, down 2% on the last Focaldata poll when YP are included.

    Not surprisingly neither the Tories or LDs affected at all, both keeping the same voteshare with YP included or not
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,284
    I think these are the results of he court hearings relating to a collision near Newark which we discussed recently, I think known to @Richard_Tyndall .

    A woman who killed two school pupils when she smashed into the back of a stationary car after sipping alcohol at the wheel and speeding at 96mph (154km/h) has been jailed for 10 years.

    Natasha Allarakhia, 36, was speeding in her Audi Q2 on the A17 at North Rauceby, Lincolnshire, on 20 June last year when she failed to notice a Ford Fiesta which had stopped at temporary traffic lights.

    The driver of the Fiesta, William Ray, 17, and passenger, Eddie Shore,18, died. A second passenger, Jack Prince, 17, suffered life-changing injuries.

    Previously, Allarakhia, of Turner Crescent, Norwich, had pleaded guilty to causing death by dangerous driving and causing serious injury.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgnj5rmpn1o

    Data was taken from the car:
    Data taken from the two vehicles showed Allarakhia did not take her foot off the accelerator until just two seconds before the crash and was only 121ft (37m) away from the Fiesta when her brakes were briefly applied.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgnj5rmpn1o
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 129,602

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @PpollingNumbers

    Elon Musk is reportedly considering supporting JD Vance for a potential 2028 presidential run.

    Given Vance is VP he will be favourite for the GOP nomination but will need Musk's money too, ideologically Musk is now closer to Vance than Trump.

    Problem for Vance is while he is more intelligent than Trump he is less charismatic
    Congratulations to you and your wife on your truly joyous news.
    Thanks TSE
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,109

    Cookie said:

    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
    Prompted by this post, I've been to have a look at tge BBC cricket page and just found something else to vex me about the Hundred: in the scores and tables, they appear to have dropped any attempt to link teams with places: instead, teams are just reported as 'Fire', 'Spirit', 'Originals', amd so on. Now of course, I find 'Welsh', 'Southern' and 'Trent' daft. ("Who are we playing Dad?" "Southern"). But less daft than nothing at all.

    Hundred: Your teams are Lancashire, Yorkshire, Nottingamshire, Warwickshire, Glamorgan, Hampshire, Surrey and Middlesex.
    And you are missing ten teams.
    And a ball each over.
    I don't understand the problem that the Hundred is meant to solve that 20:20 doesn’t.
    Funding, the ECB consider the Hundred a success because they've flogged the franchises off for hundreds of millions of pounds.

    I mentioned last week I am attending a match as a guest of somebody involved buying the franchises next week.
    I'm astonished they're getting that much money for them.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,356
    I've decided Alien Earth is really good.

    They've essentially recreated the entire aesthetic from the original movie, but with a big budget and 21stC sensibilities.

    It shouldn't work - objectively it's not very convincing as sci-fi - but it's as creepy as the original, and it does.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 32,369
    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @PpollingNumbers

    Elon Musk is reportedly considering supporting JD Vance for a potential 2028 presidential run.

    Given Vance is VP he will be favourite for the GOP nomination but will need Musk's money too, ideologically Musk is now closer to Vance than Trump.

    Problem for Vance is while he is more intelligent than Trump he is less charismatic
    Ideologically, Musk and Vance differed hugely. In broad strokes, Vance wanted closed borders and to save jobs, while Musk wanted to sack everyone and open the borders. Things might have changed since but we'd need to see.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,924

    Cookie said:

    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
    Prompted by this post, I've been to have a look at tge BBC cricket page and just found something else to vex me about the Hundred: in the scores and tables, they appear to have dropped any attempt to link teams with places: instead, teams are just reported as 'Fire', 'Spirit', 'Originals', amd so on. Now of course, I find 'Welsh', 'Southern' and 'Trent' daft. ("Who are we playing Dad?" "Southern"). But less daft than nothing at all.

    Hundred: Your teams are Lancashire, Yorkshire, Nottingamshire, Warwickshire, Glamorgan, Hampshire, Surrey and Middlesex.
    And you are missing ten teams.
    And a ball each over.
    I don't understand the problem that the Hundred is meant to solve that 20:20 doesn’t.
    The problem of the ECB not controlling the first class teams.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 64,109
    I missed it but huge congratulations to @HYUFD too
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,356

    Trump and Gabbard are doing to the intelligence community what they did to the Bureau of Labor Statistics

    My understanding is that the list of people whose clearances have been revoked by Gabbard includes a career civil servant who was until recently the most senior Russia analyst in the CIA, and remains a senior official in the organisation. (The NYT previously reported that the list included a senior CIA analyst; see below).

    They—like the NSA's Vinh Nguyen—were presumably targeted because of their prior association with the 'Intelligence Community Assessment [ICA] on Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent Elections', the report which described Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election.

    I think that would constitute one of the most significant Russia-related purges we have seen to date & with potentially severe consequences for US intelligence analysts' ability to report honestly and candidly on Russia related issues.


    https://x.com/shashj/status/1958239330897662171

    If Gabbard isn't a Russian asset, she's doing a remarkable impersonation of one.
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,764
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @PpollingNumbers

    Elon Musk is reportedly considering supporting JD Vance for a potential 2028 presidential run.

    Given Vance is VP he will be favourite for the GOP nomination but will need Musk's money too, ideologically Musk is now closer to Vance than Trump.

    Problem for Vance is while he is more intelligent than Trump he is less charismatic
    Congratulations to you and your wife on your truly joyous news.
    Thanks TSE
    Yes congratulations! I expect more late night/early morning posting from you!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,356
    .

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @PpollingNumbers

    Elon Musk is reportedly considering supporting JD Vance for a potential 2028 presidential run.

    Given Vance is VP he will be favourite for the GOP nomination but will need Musk's money too, ideologically Musk is now closer to Vance than Trump.

    Problem for Vance is while he is more intelligent than Trump he is less charismatic
    Ideologically, Musk and Vance differed hugely. In broad strokes, Vance wanted closed borders and to save jobs, while Musk wanted to sack everyone and open the borders. Things might have changed since but we'd need to see.
    They both want power.
    Ideology is secondary.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,366

    The President of the United States is a Russian asset.

    His role is - if not to do everything Putin wants -:

    1. To weaken the USA economically
    2. To weaken the USA militarily
    3. To weaken the USA geopolitically.

    It’s the opposite of Make America Great Again.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,356
    He's just cross because even the nonagenarians have more hair than him.

    Stephen Miller: "All these demonstrators that you've seen out here in recent days, all these elderly white hippies, they're not part of the city and never have been ... we're gonna ignore these stupid white hippies that all need to go home and take a nap because they're all over 90 years old."
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1958211663062040954
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,624

    The President of the United States is a Russian asset.

    FAKE NEWS from the LYING POS (aka TheSmirkingOgles)!!!
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,884
    Nigelb said:

    Trump and Gabbard are doing to the intelligence community what they did to the Bureau of Labor Statistics

    My understanding is that the list of people whose clearances have been revoked by Gabbard includes a career civil servant who was until recently the most senior Russia analyst in the CIA, and remains a senior official in the organisation. (The NYT previously reported that the list included a senior CIA analyst; see below).

    They—like the NSA's Vinh Nguyen—were presumably targeted because of their prior association with the 'Intelligence Community Assessment [ICA] on Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent Elections', the report which described Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election.

    I think that would constitute one of the most significant Russia-related purges we have seen to date & with potentially severe consequences for US intelligence analysts' ability to report honestly and candidly on Russia related issues.


    https://x.com/shashj/status/1958239330897662171

    If Gabbard isn't a Russian asset, she's doing a remarkable impersonation of one.
    Indeed, I’ve said to many people from when she was first mooted in the role that she is actually the most dangerous appointment of the lot.

    It’s just sometimes completely unbelievable that we are here - most of us on here grew up with the news but also the films of the time of Cold War and how the US was the great bulwark against Russia. Everyone used to mock that the US won the Cold War without firing a shot and yet now it’s clear that Russia has beaten the US without firing a shot.

    Reagan, Bush, Weinberger and all the other Cold War warriors would be turning in their graves. One man has undermined 70 years of US positioning and authority for venal and financial motives, not even an ideological takeover.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 15,250

    The President of the United States is a Russian asset.

    Don't know if Trump, or others in the gangster kleptocracy, are Russian assets, but the key thing is that USA policy has switched sides, from 'USA and western alliance first' to 'America first'. The central concept is the world as split up into global powers and sphere of influence blocs.

    Immediate consequences: The two power blocs of Europe, Russian and Western, are a matter for Europe. They are both nuclear powers. The Ukraine war is about where the line between the two is drawn. From an American point of view this is a little local difficulty and matters little as long as it isn't drawn somewhere silly. Like through the middle of France.

    Another interesting question: Where does USA stand now in relation to who, outside the Americas (which includes Greenland), is in the USA sphere of influence and would be worth American military intervention. Some guesses: Israel (actually that's certain): Yes. Taiwan: No. Japan and South Korea: Yes. Australia and NZ: No. Turkey: No.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,284
    edited August 20


    Burnley MP speaks out:


    Oliver Ryan MP
    @OliverRyanUK

    Things are getting serious now.

    It's time for some facts about local Houses of Multiple Occupation (HMOs) and asylum hotels, to stop the nonsense. Lets have it right - concerns about illegal migration are valid, but people in our area are being targeted & its got to stop.
    🧵 1/2

    https://x.com/OliverRyanUK/status/1958203397963714910

    That vid is worth a listen. A building in Gannow, Burnley, 100m from a primary school was set on fire, after rumours circulated, including being pushed by a Ref UK Councillor (vid included), that it was going to be an HMO. In reality there is no application to be an HMO, and it will be supported social housing.

    Make you r own evaluation.

    To me it smacks of Lee Anderson inventing a non-existent asylum hotel here in 2024; the not-an-asylum-hotel he pointed to was even over the border in Derbyshire.

    We need to work to fix the issue, and have police crack down harshly on those seeking to exploit it for their own gain.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,207
    Sean_F said:

    The President of the United States is a Russian asset.

    His role is - if not to do everything Putin wants -:

    1. To weaken the USA economically
    2. To weaken the USA militarily
    3. To weaken the USA geopolitically.

    It’s the opposite of Make America Great Again.
    The only way out is for someone to steal whatever video or photograph the FSB have and publish it.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,624

    Cookie said:

    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
    Prompted by this post, I've been to have a look at tge BBC cricket page and just found something else to vex me about the Hundred: in the scores and tables, they appear to have dropped any attempt to link teams with places: instead, teams are just reported as 'Fire', 'Spirit', 'Originals', amd so on. Now of course, I find 'Welsh', 'Southern' and 'Trent' daft. ("Who are we playing Dad?" "Southern"). But less daft than nothing at all.

    Hundred: Your teams are Lancashire, Yorkshire, Nottingamshire, Warwickshire, Glamorgan, Hampshire, Surrey and Middlesex.
    And you are missing ten teams.
    And a ball each over.
    I don't understand the problem that the Hundred is meant to solve that 20:20 doesn’t.
    "What's 99+1?" :lol:
  • isamisam Posts: 42,328

    Cookie said:

    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Welsh Fire are having a mare at the Hundred. The men's team has won just one march and the women have lost all of theirs.

    I'm a cricket fan, I don't care.
    Prompted by this post, I've been to have a look at tge BBC cricket page and just found something else to vex me about the Hundred: in the scores and tables, they appear to have dropped any attempt to link teams with places: instead, teams are just reported as 'Fire', 'Spirit', 'Originals', amd so on. Now of course, I find 'Welsh', 'Southern' and 'Trent' daft. ("Who are we playing Dad?" "Southern"). But less daft than nothing at all.

    Hundred: Your teams are Lancashire, Yorkshire, Nottingamshire, Warwickshire, Glamorgan, Hampshire, Surrey and Middlesex.
    And you are missing ten teams.
    And a ball each over.
    I don't understand the problem that the Hundred is meant to solve that 20:20 doesn’t.
    Funding, the ECB consider the Hundred a success because they've flogged the franchises off for hundreds of millions of pounds.

    I mentioned last week I am attending a match as a guest of somebody involved buying the franchises next week.
    I actually pitched a version of this to Barry Hearn via a mate about twelve years ago albeit it was just t20 but with regions (creating a team from two or three counties) and franchise players rather than changing the format, but he didn't fancy it
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 15,250
    MattW said:


    Burnley MP speaks out:


    Oliver Ryan MP
    @OliverRyanUK

    Things are getting serious now.

    It's time for some facts about local Houses of Multiple Occupation (HMOs) and asylum hotels, to stop the nonsense. Lets have it right - concerns about illegal migration are valid, but people in our area are being targeted & its got to stop.
    🧵 1/2

    https://x.com/OliverRyanUK/status/1958203397963714910

    That vid is worth a listen. A building in Gannow, Burnley, 100m from a primary school was set on fire, after rumours circulated, including being pushed by a Ref UK Councillor (vid included), that it was going to be an HMO. In reality there is no application to be an HMO but supported social housing.

    It smacks of Lee Anderson inventing a non-existent asylum hotel here in 2024; the not-an-asylum-hotel he pointed to was even over the border in Derbyshire.

    We need to work to fix the issue, and have police crack down harshly on those seeking to exploit it for their own gain.
    Labour MPs are going to discover that you can take a side, following which a group of people will support you whicever side you take, or you can try to steer a course down the centrist middle, at which point everyone will be against you. There isn't a centrist position reconciling most people.

    Just like the whole of USA politics is now.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 80,356
    MattW said:


    Burnley MP speaks out:


    Oliver Ryan MP
    @OliverRyanUK

    Things are getting serious now.

    It's time for some facts about local Houses of Multiple Occupation (HMOs) and asylum hotels, to stop the nonsense. Lets have it right - concerns about illegal migration are valid, but people in our area are being targeted & its got to stop.
    🧵 1/2

    https://x.com/OliverRyanUK/status/1958203397963714910

    That vid is worth a listen. A building in Gannow, Burnley, 100m from a primary school was set on fire, after rumours circulated, including being pushed by a Ref UK Councillor (vid included), that it was going to be an HMO. In reality there is no application to be an HMO but supported social housing.

    It smacks of Lee Anderson inventing a non-existent asylum hotel here in 2024; the not-an-asylum-hotel he pointed to was even over the border in Derbyshire.

    We need to work to fix the issue, and have police crack down harshly on those seeking to exploit it for their own gain.
    Criminal damage in pursuit of a political aim.

    Isn't that called terrorism these days ?
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,808
    Summer is nearly at its end, the days are cooling, and the Mail and Telegraph have yet to trigger the riot they’ve been urging since the sun came out in May. Tick tock, boys, tick tock. No one likes pushing flaming wheelie bins in the Autumn rains .
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,648
    'While Trump still commands the daily news cycle, he no longer commands the West... It is Europe that is becoming the new arsenal of democracy.'

    Exceptional, morally urgent and utterly clear sighted column in the Telegraph. Yes, you read that right.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/08/19/for-all-the-noise-trump-is-ever-less-relevant-on-ukraine/
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 15,250
    boulay said:

    Nigelb said:

    Trump and Gabbard are doing to the intelligence community what they did to the Bureau of Labor Statistics

    My understanding is that the list of people whose clearances have been revoked by Gabbard includes a career civil servant who was until recently the most senior Russia analyst in the CIA, and remains a senior official in the organisation. (The NYT previously reported that the list included a senior CIA analyst; see below).

    They—like the NSA's Vinh Nguyen—were presumably targeted because of their prior association with the 'Intelligence Community Assessment [ICA] on Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent Elections', the report which described Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election.

    I think that would constitute one of the most significant Russia-related purges we have seen to date & with potentially severe consequences for US intelligence analysts' ability to report honestly and candidly on Russia related issues.


    https://x.com/shashj/status/1958239330897662171

    If Gabbard isn't a Russian asset, she's doing a remarkable impersonation of one.
    Indeed, I’ve said to many people from when she was first mooted in the role that she is actually the most dangerous appointment of the lot.

    It’s just sometimes completely unbelievable that we are here - most of us on here grew up with the news but also the films of the time of Cold War and how the US was the great bulwark against Russia. Everyone used to mock that the US won the Cold War without firing a shot and yet now it’s clear that Russia has beaten the US without firing a shot.

    Reagan, Bush, Weinberger and all the other Cold War warriors would be turning in their graves. One man has undermined 70 years of US positioning and authority for venal and financial motives, not even an ideological takeover.
    Yes. One comment though; American isolationism, while I am against it, is not an entirely irrational position, Especially when put up against the catastrophes of American interventionism since 2001.

    What is irrational however is to do it in an unplanned way and without time - which is years - for the rest of the world, including Euronato (or whatever we should call it) to get its ducks in a row.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 15,250
    Scott_xP said:

    'While Trump still commands the daily news cycle, he no longer commands the West... It is Europe that is becoming the new arsenal of democracy.'

    Exceptional, morally urgent and utterly clear sighted column in the Telegraph. Yes, you read that right.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/08/19/for-all-the-noise-trump-is-ever-less-relevant-on-ukraine/

    The much maligned Rory (who in the alternative sane world is currently our PM) also gets this, as is clear from recent The Rest is Politics, worth a listen.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 29,284
    edited August 20
    MattW said:


    Burnley MP speaks out:


    Oliver Ryan MP
    @OliverRyanUK

    Things are getting serious now.

    It's time for some facts about local Houses of Multiple Occupation (HMOs) and asylum hotels, to stop the nonsense. Lets have it right - concerns about illegal migration are valid, but people in our area are being targeted & its got to stop.
    🧵 1/2

    https://x.com/OliverRyanUK/status/1958203397963714910

    That vid is worth a listen. A building in Gannow, Burnley, 100m from a primary school was set on fire, after rumours circulated, including being pushed by a Ref UK Councillor (vid included), that it was going to be an HMO. In reality there is no application to be an HMO, and it will be supported social housing.

    Make your own evaluation.

    To me it smacks of Lee Anderson inventing a non-existent asylum hotel here in 2024; the not-an-asylum-hotel he pointed to was even over the border in Derbyshire.

    We need to work to fix the issue, and have police crack down harshly on those seeking to exploit it for their own gain.
    It's classically what happens with inflammatory local campaigns. Whispers and rumours provoke action by those with no information and particular concerns which turns into obsessions.

    Lots of concerns, some valid, some invalid, some folk tales, some like traditional Nimby planning stories, which then land in the wrong place - in this case on a social housing project.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,162
    MattW said:

    First. And offtopic of course.

    FPT:

    Carnyx said:

    MattW said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Empty homes are on the rise. So why aren't they being used to solve the housing shortage?"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3r413l5n57o

    There's a little bit of hype in the piece, and it is more complex. It quotes 720k empties, which will include eg all the ones on sale, stuck in estates and so on aiui, and 265k >6 month empties - which are the real targets, which is not actually THAT many. It's only 1% of stock, which is massively lower than comparable countries.

    In depth personal renovation is not so much a thing these days with eg 2 earner couples, and small LLs who would take on wrecks for rental have been hit really hard since Osborne's 2015 targeting, and increasingly savage regulation, plus all the politics. Corporate LLs won't touch small projects.

    These days you will be paying expenses such as Council Tax on it as you renovate, since there will only be one lot of exemption and the previous owner will have had that and it may only have been one month ... unless eg very difficult to obtain exceptions.

    Plus Council Grants, especially in London, tend to have onerous conditions (eg rent it to the Council for X years, by which time it will need another renovation).

    And is it another non-statutory thing Councils have no money for?
    The other thing that struck me (having had to deal with a relative's demise and house sale overlapping with the covid period) is the definition of the short term empties category,, which as you say are to be expected (and indeed a good sign of housing turnover, cf. the perennial complaints about house-blocking oldies sans families on here). But it ought also to inclide those bona fide houses which were intended to be short term for sale but which have encountered the delays of late, for instance in probate. Even a month or two delay in probate would shift a case from the short term to the long term, without really changing the actual situation. So the rise might be an aretefact of probate/bank/legal delays.
    I'd be interested to hear from PBers who have handled parent's houses as to what happened with Council Tax, and I assume it just continued until it was eventually put up for sale - unless there was an exemption (I don't know).

    I avoided that since mum lived with me and the house was jointly owned. That caused complications as it left a family member inheriting the other half, and there was some unpleasantness with attempted leverage, and also she died 6 years after gifting me half.

    Generally Councils are shit-hot, and if you do a newbuild their officer may come round and look through the windows to see if you are in yet. There are tricks - such as making sure there is physically no water supply - that preempt it, but they get VERY cross.
    I think we got 6 months free from the date of death but we are back to paying the CT now. This is Scotland, of course, and it may be different south of the border.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,641
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @PpollingNumbers

    Elon Musk is reportedly considering supporting JD Vance for a potential 2028 presidential run.

    Given Vance is VP he will be favourite for the GOP nomination but will need Musk's money too, ideologically Musk is now closer to Vance than Trump.

    Problem for Vance is while he is more intelligent than Trump he is less charismatic
    Congratulations to you and your wife on your truly joyous news.
    Thanks TSE
    Is the polling for boy or girl? 😅

    Congratulations. It is great fun being a parent, even if a bit wearing at times.
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