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  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,493
    algarkirk said:

    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    You can buy 3D printer files online that you then send to your own 3D printer to create so I'd say technically, you can get stuff delivered online.

    You still can't even then print a pizza off even with a 3D printer
    I never said you could. You can get delivered to your printer any number of unedible plastic shite, bought online and delivered to your printer, so not far off your average corporate pizza chain.
    Actually it's only a matter of time.

    Printing of foodstuffs is quite doable.
    Making them taste good will take a little longer
    Yeah, I remember seeing 3D printed edible cake toppers on YouTube a year or so ago.
    Maybe we're not that far off a 3D printing vending machine for stuff like that.
    The much derided massive regulation along with market forces mean that food in the UK is astonishingly safe when you consider that about 70 million people eat and drink every day and carry on living on the whole. 3D edible stuff sounds like an edible version of unregulated driverless cars, all asking 'What could possibly go wrong?' as punters drop down dead after eating bits of 3D printing.
    Believe it when they can print a decent pie or roll and bacon.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 19,097

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy

    Just wrong

    With a means test
    She did not refer to a means test - just the triple lock stays

    And that was today - I assume you didn't watch her and chose to add comments she did not make
    She has already said she would consider means testing it
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jan/16/kemi-badenoch-uk-getting-poorer
    And this is where she denies it

    https://news.sky.com/story/kemi-badenoch-hits-back-at-claims-she-would-means-test-pensions-triple-lock-13290743
    In that link she says she would not cancel the triple lock not that she would not means test
    In the first paragraph Badenoch denies means testing it
    Simplest, probably kindest, answer is that the Leader of the Opposition doesn't know what she would do, or what she wants to do. (OK, she wants to reduce welfare spending on those who are seen as not needing it, in order to boost spending on the deserving poor, but that noble dream falls apart when it touches reality. Government is about what happens next.)
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,153
    HYUFD said:

    FF43 said:

    Foxy said:

    Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy

    Just wrong

    Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
    No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.

    65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade

    Should maintain: 65%
    Should not maintain: 11%

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/economy/survey-results/daily/2025/07/09/b3999/1?utm_source=daily_question&utm_medium=bluesky&utm_campaign=daily/2025/07/09_question_1



    The generation to come will be very keen to maintain the triple lock as they will still be paying rent and don't have the benefit of good private pensions.
    Not by 68 they won't, most still own a property by 40
    Why not use the accurate stats

    https://www.finder.com/uk/mortgages/home-ownership-statistics
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,857

    HYUFD said:

    FF43 said:

    Foxy said:

    Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy

    Just wrong

    Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
    No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.

    65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade

    Should maintain: 65%
    Should not maintain: 11%

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/economy/survey-results/daily/2025/07/09/b3999/1?utm_source=daily_question&utm_medium=bluesky&utm_campaign=daily/2025/07/09_question_1



    The generation to come will be very keen to maintain the triple lock as they will still be paying rent and don't have the benefit of good private pensions.
    Not by 68 they won't, most still own a property by 40
    Why not use the accurate stats

    https://www.finder.com/uk/mortgages/home-ownership-statistics
    'Meanwhile, more than half (56%) of those aged 35 to 49 are home owners, and 7 in 10 50- to 64-year-olds (69%) are home owners.'
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,582
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    malcolmg said:

    algarkirk said:

    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    You can buy 3D printer files online that you then send to your own 3D printer to create so I'd say technically, you can get stuff delivered online.

    You still can't even then print a pizza off even with a 3D printer
    I never said you could. You can get delivered to your printer any number of unedible plastic shite, bought online and delivered to your printer, so not far off your average corporate pizza chain.
    Actually it's only a matter of time.

    Printing of foodstuffs is quite doable.
    Making them taste good will take a little longer
    Yeah, I remember seeing 3D printed edible cake toppers on YouTube a year or so ago.
    Maybe we're not that far off a 3D printing vending machine for stuff like that.
    The much derided massive regulation along with market forces mean that food in the UK is astonishingly safe when you consider that about 70 million people eat and drink every day and carry on living on the whole. 3D edible stuff sounds like an edible version of unregulated driverless cars, all asking 'What could possibly go wrong?' as punters drop down dead after eating bits of 3D printing.
    Believe it when they can print a decent pie or roll and bacon.
    In sugar arts (sculpture with icing on cakes), 3D printing is already here. And growing more common.

    2D printing has been a thing for years. You buy regular inkjet printer, use edible inks and print pictures onto special sheets of icing..
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,493

    Nigelb said:

    Foxy said:

    Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy

    Just wrong

    Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
    No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.

    65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade

    Should maintain: 65%
    Should not maintain: 11%

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/economy/survey-results/daily/2025/07/09/b3999/1?utm_source=daily_question&utm_medium=bluesky&utm_campaign=daily/2025/07/09_question_1

    That's only because every major party has pandered to the pensioners' vote for the last couple of decades.

    If some of them started actually explaining our financial state, without the bullshit, references to Truss, and blaming their predecessors for black holes while suggesting they can magically solve our problems, then I am pretty certain the polling would shift.

    Perhaps not as far as it needs tomorrow but it would shift.
    Labour should have started that a year ago. It's perhaps not too late for them to start now.
    I know this sounds unrealistic but Keir and Kemi need to reach an agreement that the Triple Lock must go. If necessary do some sort of joint press conference saying so and why. Even if it's maintained to the end of the Parliament then scrapped say from April 2029.

    It's not reasonable for state pension to be increased ahead of CPI inflation and even this change will really help with the country's finances 👍
    Double lock everything.
    2.5% or CPI for all pensions, benefits and public sector salaries
    Make benefits have a ceiling of minimum wage less tax and NI no matter what if not really disabled ( ie not eth 1 in 4 crap we have now ). Cut public sector pension contributions to sub 10% like most people get if they are lucky.
  • AugustusCarp2AugustusCarp2 Posts: 405

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    malcolmg said:

    algarkirk said:

    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    You can buy 3D printer files online that you then send to your own 3D printer to create so I'd say technically, you can get stuff delivered online.

    You still can't even then print a pizza off even with a 3D printer
    I never said you could. You can get delivered to your printer any number of unedible plastic shite, bought online and delivered to your printer, so not far off your average corporate pizza chain.
    Actually it's only a matter of time.

    Printing of foodstuffs is quite doable.
    Making them taste good will take a little longer
    Yeah, I remember seeing 3D printed edible cake toppers on YouTube a year or so ago.
    Maybe we're not that far off a 3D printing vending machine for stuff like that.
    The much derided massive regulation along with market forces mean that food in the UK is astonishingly safe when you consider that about 70 million people eat and drink every day and carry on living on the whole. 3D edible stuff sounds like an edible version of unregulated driverless cars, all asking 'What could possibly go wrong?' as punters drop down dead after eating bits of 3D printing.
    Believe it when they can print a decent pie or roll and bacon.
    In sugar arts (sculpture with icing on cakes), 3D printing is already here. And growing more common.

    2D printing has been a thing for years. You buy regular inkjet printer, use edible inks and print pictures onto special sheets of icing..
    I have seen this done onto cups of coffee. Very expensive, and rather pointless, bt access to the technology is increasing all the time.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,153
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    FF43 said:

    Foxy said:

    Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy

    Just wrong

    Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
    No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.

    65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade

    Should maintain: 65%
    Should not maintain: 11%

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/economy/survey-results/daily/2025/07/09/b3999/1?utm_source=daily_question&utm_medium=bluesky&utm_campaign=daily/2025/07/09_question_1



    The generation to come will be very keen to maintain the triple lock as they will still be paying rent and don't have the benefit of good private pensions.
    Not by 68 they won't, most still own a property by 40
    Why not use the accurate stats

    https://www.finder.com/uk/mortgages/home-ownership-statistics
    'Meanwhile, more than half (56%) of those aged 35 to 49 are home owners, and 7 in 10 50- to 64-year-olds (69%) are home owners.'
    The point is 35% rent and in London more rent than are owners, creating a huge problem for them in retirement as they face a lifetime of rents as opposed to homeowners in retirement who have discharged their mortgage and have a substantial capital asset
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,720
    IanB2 said:

    Today's photo. Decent weather continues! Beyond the Arctic Circle, no more sunsets until 21 July



    Beautiful. Where is this? Northern Norway? Lofoten?

    Am tempted to take my eldest on a brief northern jaunt, this is a possible
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,857
    edited July 10

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    FF43 said:

    Foxy said:

    Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy

    Just wrong

    Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
    No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.

    65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade

    Should maintain: 65%
    Should not maintain: 11%

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/economy/survey-results/daily/2025/07/09/b3999/1?utm_source=daily_question&utm_medium=bluesky&utm_campaign=daily/2025/07/09_question_1



    The generation to come will be very keen to maintain the triple lock as they will still be paying rent and don't have the benefit of good private pensions.
    Not by 68 they won't, most still own a property by 40
    Why not use the accurate stats

    https://www.finder.com/uk/mortgages/home-ownership-statistics
    'Meanwhile, more than half (56%) of those aged 35 to 49 are home owners, and 7 in 10 50- to 64-year-olds (69%) are home owners.'
    The point is 35% rent and in London more rent than are owners, creating a huge problem for them in retirement as they face a lifetime of rents as opposed to homeowners in retirement who have discharged their mortgage and have a substantial capital asset
    Even so most future pensioners will still not be renting but owning, though yes for those who will still be renting keeping the triple lock will be important
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,756

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy

    Just wrong

    With a means test
    She did not refer to a means test - just the triple lock stays

    And that was today - I assume you didn't watch her and chose to add comments she did not make
    She has already said she would consider means testing it
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jan/16/kemi-badenoch-uk-getting-poorer
    And this is where she denies it

    https://news.sky.com/story/kemi-badenoch-hits-back-at-claims-she-would-means-test-pensions-triple-lock-13290743
    In that link she says she would not cancel the triple lock not that she would not means test
    Yeah but, you are making the means testing bit up, unless you are in Kemi's circle of influence.
    Means testing the triple lock part specifically is an absolute nonsense as has been demonstrated on previous threads. Cancelling the WFA for over £35k is as close as you'll get.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,720
    EL SCORCHIO
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 12,171
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    FF43 said:

    Foxy said:

    Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy

    Just wrong

    Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
    No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.

    65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade

    Should maintain: 65%
    Should not maintain: 11%

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/economy/survey-results/daily/2025/07/09/b3999/1?utm_source=daily_question&utm_medium=bluesky&utm_campaign=daily/2025/07/09_question_1



    The generation to come will be very keen to maintain the triple lock as they will still be paying rent and don't have the benefit of good private pensions.
    Not by 68 they won't, most still own a property by 40
    Why not use the accurate stats

    https://www.finder.com/uk/mortgages/home-ownership-statistics
    'Meanwhile, more than half (56%) of those aged 35 to 49 are home owners, and 7 in 10 50- to 64-year-olds (69%) are home owners.'
    The point is 35% rent and in London more rent than are owners, creating a huge problem for them in retirement as they face a lifetime of rents as opposed to homeowners in retirement who have discharged their mortgage and have a substantial capital asset
    Even so most future pensioners will still not be renting but owning, though yes for those who will still be renting keeping the triple lock will be important
    You are counting your chickens before they hatch....under 64 only 33% own their house outright. If you don't own outright you are merely a bit of bad luck from returning to renting. Especially are they are abolishing the years grace period before the house can be repossessed.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,720
    E-LON! E-LON!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,857
    edited July 10
    Pagan2 said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    FF43 said:

    Foxy said:

    Badenoch in her press conference just now confirms the conservative back the triple lock policy

    Just wrong

    Farage will come around too. When it comes down to stopping the boats or voters ordering that third cruise, they'll know which side their bread is buttered
    No one is willing to tell voters the cost, but the policy is a popular one.

    65% of Britons believe that the triple lock on pensions should be maintained, amid the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasting that the lock will cost three times more than expected by the end of the decade

    Should maintain: 65%
    Should not maintain: 11%

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/economy/survey-results/daily/2025/07/09/b3999/1?utm_source=daily_question&utm_medium=bluesky&utm_campaign=daily/2025/07/09_question_1



    The generation to come will be very keen to maintain the triple lock as they will still be paying rent and don't have the benefit of good private pensions.
    Not by 68 they won't, most still own a property by 40
    Why not use the accurate stats

    https://www.finder.com/uk/mortgages/home-ownership-statistics
    'Meanwhile, more than half (56%) of those aged 35 to 49 are home owners, and 7 in 10 50- to 64-year-olds (69%) are home owners.'
    The point is 35% rent and in London more rent than are owners, creating a huge problem for them in retirement as they face a lifetime of rents as opposed to homeowners in retirement who have discharged their mortgage and have a substantial capital asset
    Even so most future pensioners will still not be renting but owning, though yes for those who will still be renting keeping the triple lock will be important
    You are counting your chickens before they hatch....under 64 only 33% own their house outright. If you don't own outright you are merely a bit of bad luck from returning to renting. Especially are they are abolishing the years grace period before the house can be repossessed.
    Most middle aged people never owned their house outright, even in the 1980s and 1990s at peak home ownership if they owned it was with a mortgage (hence Black Wednesday led to many reposessions).

    Though as has also been stated the more rent as they age the even more will be the resistance to ending the triple lock
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 25,205

    The Universities and Colleges Employers Association (UCEA) are offering 1.4% for university lecturers (i.e. below inflation). The union is recommending strike action.

    Weren't you complaining the other day that universities are running out of money and tuition fees don't cover costs?

    Seems like controlling costs would be sensible in those circumstances.
    The labour market may have other ideas. All my colleagues who work on AI may be tempted by jobs elsewhere.
    Good for them, no reason for a strike then, is there? Just let supply and demand do its work.
    Supply and demand should also include the ability to set the price...
    As either supply, or demand, not both. Someone else is on the side of that and where the two of you meet, that's the equilibrium.

    It takes two to tango.

    If an employer offers too low of a wage, their employees are free to get a job elsewhere and be off.

    Good luck to them too! If an employee demands too high of a wage, the employer should be free to say no thanks, and hire someone else instead.

    Some people want to unilaterally set the rate and demand still to be employed, or still to have employees, even if they want too high a wage (as employees), or too low a wage (as employers). Doesn't work that way.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,617
    "A murder investigation has been launched after a killer knifed a man to death outside a five-star hotel and casino in London after the victim fought back in an attempt to stop him stealing his Rolex."

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/crime/incident-knightsbridge-met-cordon-street/

    One day enough rich tourists are going to notice this sort of thing and stop coming.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,478
    edited July 10
    Computer says no....

    Guido hears Hermer’s obstructiveness has destroyed months of work from ministers and civil servants on the Hillsborough Law – set to introduce a duty of candour on public officials. Chatter around the legislation has suggested that Labour would resort to scrapping that duty instead because it was too difficult.

    https://order-order.com/2025/07/10/downing-street-insists-hermer-policy-veto-is-in-interests-of-everyone/
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,720
    carnforth said:

    "A murder investigation has been launched after a killer knifed a man to death outside a five-star hotel and casino in London after the victim fought back in an attempt to stop him stealing his Rolex."

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/crime/incident-knightsbridge-met-cordon-street/

    One day enough rich tourists are going to notice this sort of thing and stop coming.

    It’s already happening
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 15,076
    carnforth said:

    "A murder investigation has been launched after a killer knifed a man to death outside a five-star hotel and casino in London after the victim fought back in an attempt to stop him stealing his Rolex."

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/crime/incident-knightsbridge-met-cordon-street/

    One day enough rich tourists are going to notice this sort of thing and stop coming.

    Is there some country rich tourists can go to that has no crime?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,198
    carnforth said:

    "A murder investigation has been launched after a killer knifed a man to death outside a five-star hotel and casino in London after the victim fought back in an attempt to stop him stealing his Rolex."

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/crime/incident-knightsbridge-met-cordon-street/

    One day enough rich tourists are going to notice this sort of thing and stop coming.

    What do the stats say for violent crime in London, and how does it compare with other capital city tourist destinations?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,582

    Computer says no....

    Guido hears Hermer’s obstructiveness has destroyed months of work from ministers and civil servants on the Hillsborough Law – set to introduce a duty of candour on public officials. Chatter around the legislation has suggested that Labour would resort to scrapping that duty instead because it was too difficult.

    https://order-order.com/2025/07/10/downing-street-insists-hermer-policy-veto-is-in-interests-of-everyone/

    A duty of candour - aka tell the truth in plain words?

    The whole of Whitehall would rather resign, I suspect.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,964
    malcolmg said:

    DavidL said:

    We always have been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France.

    Duke of Wellington

    Never noticed it for the Scottish David. Once you explain your are not a "rosbif" but Ecosse , it all changes.
    We are recently back from France. We had both an UK sticker and an Ecosse sticker on the car. When we got home we removed the UK sticker. We kept the Ecosse sticker on. Anyway, who would take any notice of a man who wears a traffic cone on his head.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,715

    NEW THREAD

  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,881

    carnforth said:

    "A murder investigation has been launched after a killer knifed a man to death outside a five-star hotel and casino in London after the victim fought back in an attempt to stop him stealing his Rolex."

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/crime/incident-knightsbridge-met-cordon-street/

    One day enough rich tourists are going to notice this sort of thing and stop coming.

    What do the stats say for violent crime in London, and how does it compare with other capital city tourist destinations?
    The "rich" tourists and their Rolexes may stop coming though I doubt it but travelling around zone 1 on the tube and there seem plenty of poorer (or should that be "less rich") tourists trying to figure out whether they can get on a District or a Circle at Tower Hill to take the kiddies to see Platform 9 and three quarters at Kings Cross.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 62,720

    carnforth said:

    "A murder investigation has been launched after a killer knifed a man to death outside a five-star hotel and casino in London after the victim fought back in an attempt to stop him stealing his Rolex."

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/crime/incident-knightsbridge-met-cordon-street/

    One day enough rich tourists are going to notice this sort of thing and stop coming.

    Is there some country rich tourists can go to that has no crime?
    Singapore. UAE. China. Japan. Korea
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,102

    I’ve found proper jobs for Ange and Rach.



    I note Angela is demonstrating proper ladylike behaviour with a half...
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,964
    Leon said:

    E-LON! E-LON!

    You are Leon Musk and I claim my 5 bitcoins.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,964

    carnforth said:

    "A murder investigation has been launched after a killer knifed a man to death outside a five-star hotel and casino in London after the victim fought back in an attempt to stop him stealing his Rolex."

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/crime/incident-knightsbridge-met-cordon-street/

    One day enough rich tourists are going to notice this sort of thing and stop coming.

    Is there some country rich tourists can go to that has no crime?
    I would ask @IanB2.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,964

    NEW THREAD

    You always do this to me! 😧
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,156
    Foxy said:

    I’ve found proper jobs for Ange and Rach.



    I note Angela is demonstrating proper ladylike behaviour with a half...
    If understand The Pub Landlord (pbuh), it's a glass of white wine for the ladies :):):):)
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,881
    Afternoon all :)

    As someone closing in on the state pension, I'm fairly ambivalent about the Triple Lock as, to be honest, many pensioners will see a chunk of that increase taken in tax by HMRC if they aren't wholly reliant on the state pension.

    The obvious answer, you'd think, would be to ensure the state pension remains tax free by ensuring personal allowances rise enough to cover the state pension - I somehow think that won't happen.

    On the wider welfare question, I agree it shouldn't be a truth you are better off not working than working but it's not as simple as that. There are people who want to work but can't - carers, those with physical and mental disabilities and until and unless we can be more flexible and inventive about how we provision work, we will have an untapped workforce who aspire (remember aspiration?) to better and more productive lives.

    Within that, as we know, the benefits and taxation profiles are complex so if a carer works their carers allowance is taxed heavily and so on. As with all the other "difficult" problems, it has been neglected for years and now needs urgent attention and reform.

    The 11% or so of our GDP that goes on welfare isn't much compared to other countries (Finland is 25% I believe) but at a time of real challenges on the public finances (including debt interest and defence), it's another pressure we could probably do without.

    The polling on the Triple Lock shows the problem any party is going to have trying to make changes. As they become a growing part of the electorate and a larger proportion of those who actually vote, appeasing the older turkeys is going to become even more the business of Government.
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