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  • FossFoss Posts: 1,538

    ydoethur said:

    Sultana quits Labour Party and is co founding new party with Corbyn

    Finally, some good news for Starmer.
    They'll probably unseat some relatively big Labour names next time.
    Loosing them will likely make Labour more attractive in some non-metropolitan parts of the country.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,057
    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    Werra good.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,938
    Claire Coutinho, not someone I'm a particular fan of, calmly but devastatingly explaining why Ed Milliband is a national security risk.

    https://youtu.be/MEdRtVuYJ5A?si=Nlw5jbPYlMiNL2iX

    Has he really poured concrete down gas wells?

    Is there another word for the destruction of an energy resource so that it cannot be used, even in extremis, other than sabotage?
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,003
    boulay said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    You take that back. She's not been able to do anything wrong in my eyes since she played that substitute English teacher with the slightly too tight sweater in Spooks.
    Oi, I saw her first in 1997 in the video for “She’s a star” by James. Hands off.
    I was rewatching an old Gomez video a while back :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wkYocRVnYc

    A couple of people I recognised from later successes.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,441

    Claire Coutinho, not someone I'm a particular fan of, calmly but devastatingly explaining why Ed Milliband is a national security risk.

    https://youtu.be/MEdRtVuYJ5A?si=Nlw5jbPYlMiNL2iX

    Has he really poured concrete down gas wells?

    Is there another word for the destruction of an energy resource so that it cannot be used, even in extremis, other than sabotage?

    You’ve never encountered cementing a plug into a well? I thought you were a fan of oil and gas?
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,459
    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,003
    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,670

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    DI Alex Drake.

    She looks fine, but not like she’s enhanced
    "Enhanced?" No. But she looks different, and not normal aging different. I've had another look and it doesn't look like cosmetic surgery (except possibly buccal fat removal?), more weight loss: her cheekbones are more prominent: indeed most of the skull. Her neck is going too, which is unusual for a woman her age. It's not the saggy look you get with aging, more like underskin fat removal, hence me thinking Ozempic/dental work/illness.

    Oh, and much to my delight "Ashes to Ashes" is on iPlayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00jhp3l/ashes-to-ashes
    Season 1 is very very rewatchable I find. I don't know what it is, but it works a lot better than 2 and 3 (though I did like Jim Keats). Perhaps it just felt more like 1981 than seasons 2 and 3 (which didn't feel quite right for me).
    The main trouble with Ashes to Ashes was that it seemed she was ALWAYS right, whereas in Life on Mars sometimes Tyler was, sometimes Gene Hunt was.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,512
    Suspected people smuggling gang taken down in nationwide strikes

    Seven members of a suspected organised crime group believed to have made millions have been arrested in West Yorkshire and Essex.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/suspected-people-smuggling-gang-taken-down-in-nationwide-strikes

    Government press release.
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,459
    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,938

    Claire Coutinho, not someone I'm a particular fan of, calmly but devastatingly explaining why Ed Milliband is a national security risk.

    https://youtu.be/MEdRtVuYJ5A?si=Nlw5jbPYlMiNL2iX

    Has he really poured concrete down gas wells?

    Is there another word for the destruction of an energy resource so that it cannot be used, even in extremis, other than sabotage?

    You’ve never encountered cementing a plug into a well? I thought you were a fan of oil and gas?
    I'm a fan, but I have never claimed expertise. If the plug is a necessary feature of ceasing to use the well and allows use to resume when necessary, I withdraw the comment.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,938
    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,512

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    DI Alex Drake.

    She looks fine, but not like she’s enhanced
    "Enhanced?" No. But she looks different, and not normal aging different. I've had another look and it doesn't look like cosmetic surgery (except possibly buccal fat removal?), more weight loss: her cheekbones are more prominent: indeed most of the skull. Her neck is going too, which is unusual for a woman her age. It's not the saggy look you get with aging, more like underskin fat removal, hence me thinking Ozempic/dental work/illness.

    Oh, and much to my delight "Ashes to Ashes" is on iPlayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00jhp3l/ashes-to-ashes
    Season 1 is very very rewatchable I find. I don't know what it is, but it works a lot better than 2 and 3 (though I did like Jim Keats). Perhaps it just felt more like 1981 than seasons 2 and 3 (which didn't feel quite right for me).
    My guess at the time was we were watching the writers get older. Life on Mars was based on a pastiche of 1970s series like The Sweeney. Ashes to Ashes was based in the 1980s and more grounded in real events.

    So maybe the writers were children in the 1970s and watched the 1980s on the news.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 88

    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Pretty much saying what they were doing by stealth.

    Loads of productive land will also be removed due to the increasingly prolific number of solar farms being approved. A lot of these will be done via rental agreements rather than energy companies buying the land
    The land that is so productive that farms will go under without the inheritance tax relief, so the farmers claim?
    The IHT stuff is a lottery, if you are young enough you can shift it across to the next generation now and live 7 years, put it into partnership or ltd company, use your wife/partner to transfer a share, there are plenty of options. Older farmers who have hung onto assets til they are 80 plus, or seriously ill are the ones who will be most at risk to the IHT change.

    One of farmings biggest threats to its future is the younger generation wanting easier, better paid jobs for the amount of effort they put in. There will be a sea change in both attitude and farming over the next 20 years

    With productive land, I'd argue you've slightly more options what to do. You can't build a new town 2000 feet up in the Pennines
    The farm IHT should have been phased in over 7 years to enable farmers to carry out some tax planning.
    Re the Pennines, Buxton and Alston say hello. Is there anywhere on the Pennines with a large enough area over 2000 feet to build a town?
    It's not been the best thought out policy since Starmer came in, but fortunately for Labour there are significantly fewer farmers in the country than either pensioners or welfare claimants. I didn't think they'd change tack in October, they definitely won't now.

    Saying that some families have particularly difficult individual sets of circumstances, accidents and illness at a young age, single parents etc so will be hit by this much harder. If a farmer is 85 and still fully holding onto the reins with family working in tow, why didn't they transfer assets earlier? This was an obvious target for an incoming Labour government

    It's the randomness of who it affects which should be the real discussion point.

    Apologies my point about the height was more about the limits to land use higher up. I didn't expect Steve Reed to be so direct today, I think there will be a lot of continuing stock reduction off the hills by stealth over the next decade to 15 years, as older farmers sell up or retire. The hills still need to be managed either way.

    There's a clear population shift away from large parts of remote rural areas in the UK, second homes, housing costs, lack of jobs, more money and better lifestyles for youngsters all playing a big part

  • eekeek Posts: 30,512

    Suspected people smuggling gang taken down in nationwide strikes

    Seven members of a suspected organised crime group believed to have made millions have been arrested in West Yorkshire and Essex.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/suspected-people-smuggling-gang-taken-down-in-nationwide-strikes

    Government press release.

    And none of those 500 people arrived on a boat, they arrived with tickets on planes by the sounds of it.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 5,003
    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    She was a fabulous actress. I saw her once walking down (afair) Oxford Street - massive grin on her face - and very well aware of the little group of fans who were walking behind her too afraid to catch up and ask for autographs.

    Just reading her Wikipedia page now :

    "Her obituary in The Times read that "She could and should have achieved so much more. At Rada she was considered one of the most promising thespians of her generation by contemporaries such as Anthony Hopkins and John Hurt" but that her mental illness had "blighted her career""

    Tragic - but she did seem to get a hell of a lot of kicks out of life.
  • eekeek Posts: 30,512

    Claire Coutinho, not someone I'm a particular fan of, calmly but devastatingly explaining why Ed Milliband is a national security risk.

    https://youtu.be/MEdRtVuYJ5A?si=Nlw5jbPYlMiNL2iX

    Has he really poured concrete down gas wells?

    Is there another word for the destruction of an energy resource so that it cannot be used, even in extremis, other than sabotage?

    The original request came from Boris's Government see this press release https://cuadrillaresources.uk/government-orders-plugging-and-abandonment-of-britains-shale-wells-in-midst-of-energy-crisis/

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,632
    Taz said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @GuidoFawkes
    ·
    2m
    Break - Left wing MP Zarah Sultana quits Labour and announces she is co-founding a new party with Jeremy Corbyn

    ..


    Has she jumped the gun?
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,459

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.

  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,121

    I believe 'local lad done good' Paul Nuttall has been appointed vice-chair of Reform UK.

    I'm reminded of Stewart Lee's sketch at this time........

    Jeez. He's something of a fantasist, and suggested the use of waterboarding.

    Can that be true?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,632
    Pop tastic:



    John McDonnell
    @johnmcdonnellMP
    ·
    28m
    I am dreadfully sorry to lose Zarah from the Labour Party. The people running Labour at the moment need to ask themselves why a young, articulate, talented, extremely dedicated socialist feels she now has no home in the Labour Party and has to leave.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,632
    Scott_xP said:

    Oops

    @Gabriel_Pogrund

    EXCLUSIVE: I understand Jeremy Corbyn has not agreed to join the new left party with Zarah Sultana yet

    He is furious and bewildered at the way it has been launched without consultation.

    As I posted earlier. Jumped the gun?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,512
    eek said:

    Suspected people smuggling gang taken down in nationwide strikes

    Seven members of a suspected organised crime group believed to have made millions have been arrested in West Yorkshire and Essex.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/suspected-people-smuggling-gang-taken-down-in-nationwide-strikes

    Government press release.

    And none of those 500 people arrived on a boat, they arrived with tickets on planes by the sounds of it.
    tbh I was more interested in Dame Angela Eagle DBE MP which seemed like overegging the pudding in the damehood respect yet left out the Rt Hon.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,121
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,632
    All those hard left types who joined the Greens in last two months in order to elect Polanski and create the new new Left party vehicle now looking a bit stupid surely?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 19,041
    edited July 3
    Scott_xP said:

    Oops

    @Gabriel_Pogrund

    EXCLUSIVE: I understand Jeremy Corbyn has not agreed to join the new left party with Zarah Sultana yet

    He is furious and bewildered at the way it has been launched without consultation.

    General Boles summarising the situation with characteristic pith;

    Thoughts and prayers with the boob whisperer

    https://bsky.app/profile/generalboles.bsky.social/post/3lt3jhofpzs2z

    Westminster voting intention in the event of a "New Corbyn-led party"

    REF: 27% (-)
    LAB: 20% (-3)
    CON: 20% (-)
    CORB: 10% (+10)
    LDEM: 14% (-)
    GRN: 5% (-4)
    SNP: 2% (-1)

    via More in Common
    Chgs. w/ standard VI question
    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/polling/2025/06/the-phantom-threat-of-corbyn-2-0


    https://bsky.app/profile/britainelects.com/post/3lt3jflhlek2e

    How do we get back to a world where politicians could say "I hate you, but we're still allies"? It was horribly imperfect, but better than this.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,381

    Scott_xP said:

    Oops

    @Gabriel_Pogrund

    EXCLUSIVE: I understand Jeremy Corbyn has not agreed to join the new left party with Zarah Sultana yet

    He is furious and bewildered at the way it has been launched without consultation.

    As I posted earlier. Jumped the gun?
    She was probably about to be expelled over PA and panicked
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 14,821
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

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    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.

    And far north west of England.
  • StereodogStereodog Posts: 1,058
    Pro_Rata said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    DI Alex Drake.

    She looks fine, but not like she’s enhanced
    "Enhanced?" No. But she looks different, and not normal aging different. I've had another look and it doesn't look like cosmetic surgery (except possibly buccal fat removal?), more weight loss: her cheekbones are more prominent: indeed most of the skull. Her neck is going too, which is unusual for a woman her age. It's not the saggy look you get with aging, more like underskin fat removal, hence me thinking Ozempic/dental work/illness.

    Oh, and much to my delight "Ashes to Ashes" is on iPlayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00jhp3l/ashes-to-ashes
    Season 1 is very very rewatchable I find. I don't know what it is, but it works a lot better than 2 and 3 (though I did like Jim Keats). Perhaps it just felt more like 1981 than seasons 2 and 3 (which didn't feel quite right for me).
    The main trouble with Ashes to Ashes was that it seemed she was ALWAYS right, whereas in Life on Mars sometimes Tyler was, sometimes Gene Hunt was.
    I've just rewatched both series and much preferred Life on Mars which was contrary to my previous recollection. Firstly Life on Mars has a far better feeling for the time period than Ashes to Ashes. In the scene where Sam watches his mum at a family wedding I can almost smell the beer and dry roast peanuts in the local hall. Ashes to Ashes feels like the 80s filtered through action movies and music videos. Also if you strip away the time travelling stuff Life on Mars just works as a good old fashioned police procedural I'm the Sweeny mould. Ashes to Ashes was a master class in how to successfully end a series though. The finale still makes me emotional.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,512
    eek said:

    Claire Coutinho, not someone I'm a particular fan of, calmly but devastatingly explaining why Ed Milliband is a national security risk.

    https://youtu.be/MEdRtVuYJ5A?si=Nlw5jbPYlMiNL2iX

    Has he really poured concrete down gas wells?

    Is there another word for the destruction of an energy resource so that it cannot be used, even in extremis, other than sabotage?

    The original request came from Boris's Government see this press release https://cuadrillaresources.uk/government-orders-plugging-and-abandonment-of-britains-shale-wells-in-midst-of-energy-crisis/

    I know I joke about this with ‘memo to Kemi’ but whenever a Conservative frontbencher complains about Labour, it turns out it was the blue team wot dunnit. Every single time.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,057

    Pop tastic:



    John McDonnell
    @johnmcdonnellMP
    ·
    28m
    I am dreadfully sorry to lose Zarah from the Labour Party. The people running Labour at the moment need to ask themselves why a young, articulate, talented, extremely dedicated socialist feels she now has no home in the Labour Party and has to leave.

    And what about losing Zarah Sultana?
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,459
    edited July 3
    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

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    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

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    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 15,000
    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

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    ydoethur said:

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    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

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    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
    Bab?
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,459
    Michael Madsen, famous for playing someone who cut someone’s ear off while Stuck in the Middle,with you played in the background, has died.

    His sister is also into the acting game and was in Monk.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,520
    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

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    ydoethur said:

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    ydoethur said:

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    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
    I grew up in Birmingham and it was class based. Middle class Mum, working class Mom. Mum or Mam for the Irish contingent.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 14,821

    All those hard left types who joined the Greens in last two months in order to elect Polanski and create the new new Left party vehicle now looking a bit stupid surely?

    The more the party system splits, the more attention should be paid to two features: The geographical 'pact' of Labour and LD who split the seats about 530/100 as to who is the main challenger to Reform and the Tories, which is an electoral sweet spot. And the increasing chance that the Tories and Reform have a fork in the road to come; the choice between an electoral pact or the chance of each destroying the chances of the other by both standing in each seat, taking up to 60% of the votes and still losing to Labour on 35%.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,938

    eek said:

    Claire Coutinho, not someone I'm a particular fan of, calmly but devastatingly explaining why Ed Milliband is a national security risk.

    https://youtu.be/MEdRtVuYJ5A?si=Nlw5jbPYlMiNL2iX

    Has he really poured concrete down gas wells?

    Is there another word for the destruction of an energy resource so that it cannot be used, even in extremis, other than sabotage?

    The original request came from Boris's Government see this press release https://cuadrillaresources.uk/government-orders-plugging-and-abandonment-of-britains-shale-wells-in-midst-of-energy-crisis/

    I know I joke about this with ‘memo to Kemi’ but whenever a Conservative frontbencher complains about Labour, it turns out it was the blue team wot dunnit. Every single time.
    Except that like (probably) most of your posts, it turns out to be incorrect.

    https://drillordrop.com/2025/02/27/plugging-of-fracked-wells-start-imminent/
  • CookieCookie Posts: 15,536

    Scott_xP said:

    Oops

    @Gabriel_Pogrund

    EXCLUSIVE: I understand Jeremy Corbyn has not agreed to join the new left party with Zarah Sultana yet

    He is furious and bewildered at the way it has been launched without consultation.

    As I posted earlier. Jumped the gun?
    It would be exciting if the New Left party with its two members could manage to split before it's been launched. They're seeing what fun Reform and Advance and Reclaim and the like are having and want a bit of the action.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,057

    Syrian asylum seeker attacks train passengers with an axe before being overpowered:

    https://m.bild.de/news/inland/ein-mann-hat-in-einem-ice-in-bayern-vier-passagiere-leicht-verletzt-686689db4a482933f5247b42

    It's a pretty obvious way to try and stir up racial hatred to post about every time someone from the group you want people to hate commits a violent crime. What you are, of course, doing is ignoring the context, all the times when someone from other groups commits a similar crime.

    You've had to go to Germany for your case. Here's an axe attack in the UK from 2023, https://www.nottinghamshire.police.uk/news/nottinghamshire/news/news/2024/september/brothers-jailed-for-brutal-axe-attack/ , by Leon Oakden-Gostling and Reece Oakden. Here's David Richards, imprisoned in 2023 for another UK axe attack: https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/death-dreamboys-boss-jailed-attacking-9547066 Thomas Hooson, Leon Headey and Lee Fraser were charged in Scotland for another axe attack: https://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/news/third-man-appears-in-court-on-alleged-highland-axe-attack-334965/ Rhys Jolley, 2023, Cambridgeshire, axe attack: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-66923638 Let's jump to 2025: Stuart Whittaker was charged with an axe attack in Cheshire: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv30qy1k6o I could go on. White British people sometimes commit axe attacks too. We don't want anyone to commit axe attacks, but the solution to that is not to try to whip up hysteria against one group like your hero Donald Trump.
    It’s simply good public policy to minimise the number of people wandering around who have psychological issues liable to make them commit random acts of violence.

    As you correctly point out, we have more than enough of our own. Enoch Powell was perhaps wrong to close the asylums.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,520
    edited July 3
    "Labour peer dies while swimming in river"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgq7nxzvk0yo

    "Lord Lipsey had previously worked as a journalist for The Sunday Times, New Society and The Economist and co-founded the short-lived Sunday Correspondent in 1988.

    He was awarded a life peerage by former PM Tony Blair in 1999, and is credited with coining the phrases "New Labour" and "winter of discontent"."
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,459

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

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    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
    Bab?
    Yes, as in soccer player Phil but with one less ‘b’

    It’s a regional term of endearment like ‘me duck’.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,938
    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

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    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
    I grew up in Birmingham and it was class based. Middle class Mum, working class Mom. Mum or Mam for the Irish contingent.
    I am alarmed and distressed to discover the word in frequent use anywhere in the civilised world.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,057
    https://x.com/britainelects/status/1940863401384714638

    Westminster voting intention in the event of a "New Corbyn-led party"

    REF: 27% (-)
    LAB: 20% (-3)
    CON: 20% (-)
    CORB: 10% (+10)
    LDEM: 14% (-)
    GRN: 5% (-4)
    SNP: 2% (-1)

    via More in Common
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,520
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

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    viewcode said:

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    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
    Bab?
    Yes, as in soccer player Phil but with one less ‘b’

    It’s a regional term of endearment like ‘me duck’.
    The youth prefer "Bub". A shame.

    It was also the traditional name for the youngest child, who was not called by their real name until they were four or five years old. I had a great aunt called "Bab" until she died in her nineties.
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,459

    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

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    ydoethur said:

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    ydoethur said:

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    viewcode said:

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    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
    I grew up in Birmingham and it was class based. Middle class Mum, working class Mom. Mum or Mam for the Irish contingent.
    I am alarmed and distressed to discover the word in frequent use anywhere in the civilised world.
    You ever been to the working class parts of Brum ?
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,459
    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
    Bab?
    Yes, as in soccer player Phil but with one less ‘b’

    It’s a regional term of endearment like ‘me duck’.
    The youth prefer "Bub". A shame.

    It was also the traditional name for the youngest child, who was not called by their real name until they were four or five years old. I had a great aunt called "Bab" until she died in her nineties.
    So not a shortened version of Barbara.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,632
    So endeth the Shining City on a Hill:


    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar

    House Republicans give a big group thumbs up after passing Trump's big bill

    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1940869714126705064
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,520
    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
    Jess Philips is a middle class grammar school girl. I was in the same year as her at school - well, the boys school next door. I suspect, though cannot prove, that she is full of affectations.

    Surprisingly common. Moderately famous local historian Carl Chinn speaks awfully posh in real life, for example.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,110
    "We must prepare for Prime Minister Farage
    If something is beginning to look inevitable, let’s talk about it.
    By Andrew Marr" (£)

    https://www.newstatesman.com
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,520
    Taz said:

    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
    Bab?
    Yes, as in soccer player Phil but with one less ‘b’

    It’s a regional term of endearment like ‘me duck’.
    The youth prefer "Bub". A shame.

    It was also the traditional name for the youngest child, who was not called by their real name until they were four or five years old. I had a great aunt called "Bab" until she died in her nineties.
    So not a shortened version of Barbara.
    No, short for baby. When another child is born, bab is simply transferred...
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,512

    eek said:

    Claire Coutinho, not someone I'm a particular fan of, calmly but devastatingly explaining why Ed Milliband is a national security risk.

    https://youtu.be/MEdRtVuYJ5A?si=Nlw5jbPYlMiNL2iX

    Has he really poured concrete down gas wells?

    Is there another word for the destruction of an energy resource so that it cannot be used, even in extremis, other than sabotage?

    The original request came from Boris's Government see this press release https://cuadrillaresources.uk/government-orders-plugging-and-abandonment-of-britains-shale-wells-in-midst-of-energy-crisis/

    I know I joke about this with ‘memo to Kemi’ but whenever a Conservative frontbencher complains about Labour, it turns out it was the blue team wot dunnit. Every single time.
    Except that like (probably) most of your posts, it turns out to be incorrect.

    https://drillordrop.com/2025/02/27/plugging-of-fracked-wells-start-imminent/
    August 2023 from your link.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,057
    Andy_JS said:

    "We must prepare for Prime Minister Farage
    If something is beginning to look inevitable, let’s talk about it.
    By Andrew Marr" (£)

    https://www.newstatesman.com

    Unless Reform win and Zia Yusuf launches a coup to make himself Prime Minister instead.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,275
    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.

    My Mam informed me last week that it changed from Mam to Mum in Wigan between my birth and my brother's three and half years later.
    It's still very much Mam up here.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,665
    edited July 3
    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

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    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
    Bab?
    Yes, as in soccer player Phil but with one less ‘b’

    It’s a regional term of endearment like ‘me duck’.
    The youth prefer "Bub". A shame.

    It was also the traditional name for the youngest child, who was not called by their real name until they were four or five years old. I had a great aunt called "Bab" until she died in her nineties.
    I wonder if the American Mom originates from the Brummie. It certainly doesn’t seem to come from any other European languages that I’m aware of.

    My daughter insists on calling her mother “Mama” despite now being on the cusp of secondary school. She doesn’t call me Papa though, which is disappointing for someone who grew up on Renault Clio ads.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 15,536

    Andy_JS said:

    "We must prepare for Prime Minister Farage
    If something is beginning to look inevitable, let’s talk about it.
    By Andrew Marr" (£)

    https://www.newstatesman.com

    Unless Reform win and Zia Yusuf launches a coup to make himself Prime Minister instead.
    At this rate, voters are going to have a party each. "I don't like any of them" will be a thing of the past.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,520
    TimS said:

    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
    Bab?
    Yes, as in soccer player Phil but with one less ‘b’

    It’s a regional term of endearment like ‘me duck’.
    The youth prefer "Bub". A shame.

    It was also the traditional name for the youngest child, who was not called by their real name until they were four or five years old. I had a great aunt called "Bab" until she died in her nineties.
    I wonder if the American Mom originates from the Brummie. It certainly doesn’t seem to come from any other European languages that I’m aware of.

    My daughter insists on calling her mother “Mama” despite now being on the cusp of secondary school. She doesn’t call me Papa though, which is disappointing for someone who grew up on Renault Clio ads.
    I would suggest to her to drop that before going to university. Merciless teasing would result, even at the poshest institution.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 15,000
    edited July 3

    Syrian asylum seeker attacks train passengers with an axe before being overpowered:

    https://m.bild.de/news/inland/ein-mann-hat-in-einem-ice-in-bayern-vier-passagiere-leicht-verletzt-686689db4a482933f5247b42

    It's a pretty obvious way to try and stir up racial hatred to post about every time someone from the group you want people to hate commits a violent crime. What you are, of course, doing is ignoring the context, all the times when someone from other groups commits a similar crime.

    You've had to go to Germany for your case. Here's an axe attack in the UK from 2023, https://www.nottinghamshire.police.uk/news/nottinghamshire/news/news/2024/september/brothers-jailed-for-brutal-axe-attack/ , by Leon Oakden-Gostling and Reece Oakden. Here's David Richards, imprisoned in 2023 for another UK axe attack: https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/death-dreamboys-boss-jailed-attacking-9547066 Thomas Hooson, Leon Headey and Lee Fraser were charged in Scotland for another axe attack: https://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/news/third-man-appears-in-court-on-alleged-highland-axe-attack-334965/ Rhys Jolley, 2023, Cambridgeshire, axe attack: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-66923638 Let's jump to 2025: Stuart Whittaker was charged with an axe attack in Cheshire: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv30qy1k6o I could go on. White British people sometimes commit axe attacks too. We don't want anyone to commit axe attacks, but the solution to that is not to try to whip up hysteria against one group like your hero Donald Trump.
    It’s simply good public policy to minimise the number of people wandering around who have psychological issues liable to make them commit random acts of violence.

    As you correctly point out, we have more than enough of our own. Enoch Powell was perhaps wrong to close the asylums.
    What we don't need are policies of going after groups you don't like while pardoning groups you do like. Trump pardoned 1500 Jan 6 rioters. Was that good public policy? At least one death has resulted from this, as well as various crimes (burglary, child pornography, sexual assault, etc.).
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,665

    https://x.com/britainelects/status/1940863401384714638

    Westminster voting intention in the event of a "New Corbyn-led party"

    REF: 27% (-)
    LAB: 20% (-3)
    CON: 20% (-)
    CORB: 10% (+10)
    LDEM: 14% (-)
    GRN: 5% (-4)
    SNP: 2% (-1)

    via More in Common

    A very instructive poll, because it explains the Green party’s current high vote share despite their total lack of media coverage, meaningful policy or direction. They are what Reform would be if there were no Farage.

    Also hints at the persistent role of the SNP as repository for disaffected lefties north of the Border.
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,459
    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

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    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
    Jess Philips is a middle class grammar school girl. I was in the same year as her at school - well, the boys school next door. I suspect, though cannot prove, that she is full of affectations.

    Surprisingly common. Moderately famous local historian Carl Chinn speaks awfully posh in real life, for example.
    I’m well aware the authentic voice of the working class (sic) and self proclaimed daughter of a single mom is very middle class and from a well heeled background. She’s hardly our Ange. I always got the impression with her the ‘mom’ and ‘bab” and the other stuff was somewhat forced.

    She’s also my sisters MP.

    I saw Black Sabbath on the news earlier. A few of them still have the accent.
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,459
    dixiedean said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.

    My Mam informed me last week that it changed from Mam to Mum in Wigan between my birth and my brother's three and half years later.
    It's still very much Mam up here.
    My mother in law realised she was being scammed after she had a text, purportedly, from her son with a new number as he’d ’lost his phone’.

    She realised it was not kosher as the scammer said ‘mum’ not ‘mama’
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 15,000
    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
    Bab?
    Yes, as in soccer player Phil but with one less ‘b’

    It’s a regional term of endearment like ‘me duck’.
    The youth prefer "Bub". A shame.

    It was also the traditional name for the youngest child, who was not called by their real name until they were four or five years old. I had a great aunt called "Bab" until she died in her nineties.
    So not a shortened version of Barbara.
    No, short for baby. When another child is born, bab is simply transferred...
    Like how Queen Victoria called Princess Beatrice "baby".
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,057

    Syrian asylum seeker attacks train passengers with an axe before being overpowered:

    https://m.bild.de/news/inland/ein-mann-hat-in-einem-ice-in-bayern-vier-passagiere-leicht-verletzt-686689db4a482933f5247b42

    It's a pretty obvious way to try and stir up racial hatred to post about every time someone from the group you want people to hate commits a violent crime. What you are, of course, doing is ignoring the context, all the times when someone from other groups commits a similar crime.

    You've had to go to Germany for your case. Here's an axe attack in the UK from 2023, https://www.nottinghamshire.police.uk/news/nottinghamshire/news/news/2024/september/brothers-jailed-for-brutal-axe-attack/ , by Leon Oakden-Gostling and Reece Oakden. Here's David Richards, imprisoned in 2023 for another UK axe attack: https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/death-dreamboys-boss-jailed-attacking-9547066 Thomas Hooson, Leon Headey and Lee Fraser were charged in Scotland for another axe attack: https://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/news/third-man-appears-in-court-on-alleged-highland-axe-attack-334965/ Rhys Jolley, 2023, Cambridgeshire, axe attack: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-66923638 Let's jump to 2025: Stuart Whittaker was charged with an axe attack in Cheshire: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv30qy1k6o I could go on. White British people sometimes commit axe attacks too. We don't want anyone to commit axe attacks, but the solution to that is not to try to whip up hysteria against one group like your hero Donald Trump.
    It’s simply good public policy to minimise the number of people wandering around who have psychological issues liable to make them commit random acts of violence.

    As you correctly point out, we have more than enough of our own. Enoch Powell was perhaps wrong to close the asylums.
    What we don't need are policies of going after groups you don't like while pardoning groups you do like. Trump pardoned 1500 Jan 6 rioters. Was that good public policy? At least one death has resulted from this, as well as various crimes (burglary, child pornography, sexual assault, etc.).
    According to this argument Starmer was wrong to let people out of prison (resulting in at least one death) to make space for rioters.
  • MightyAlexMightyAlex Posts: 1,782

    Scott_xP said:

    Oops

    @Gabriel_Pogrund

    EXCLUSIVE: I understand Jeremy Corbyn has not agreed to join the new left party with Zarah Sultana yet

    He is furious and bewildered at the way it has been launched without consultation.

    General Boles summarising the situation with characteristic pith;

    Thoughts and prayers with the boob whisperer

    https://bsky.app/profile/generalboles.bsky.social/post/3lt3jhofpzs2z

    Westminster voting intention in the event of a "New Corbyn-led party"

    REF: 27% (-)
    LAB: 20% (-3)
    CON: 20% (-)
    CORB: 10% (+10)
    LDEM: 14% (-)
    GRN: 5% (-4)
    SNP: 2% (-1)

    via More in Common
    Chgs. w/ standard VI question
    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/polling/2025/06/the-phantom-threat-of-corbyn-2-0


    https://bsky.app/profile/britainelects.com/post/3lt3jflhlek2e

    How do we get back to a world where politicians could say "I hate you, but we're still allies"? It was horribly imperfect, but better than this.
    When they are treated as allies and not as a foreign body to be walled off and triangulated around. Starmer’s treated the left terribly. Its been lies, chicanery and expulsion since he was elected by them. Imagine expecting their votes now.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,665
    Cookie said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "We must prepare for Prime Minister Farage
    If something is beginning to look inevitable, let’s talk about it.
    By Andrew Marr" (£)

    https://www.newstatesman.com

    Unless Reform win and Zia Yusuf launches a coup to make himself Prime Minister instead.
    At this rate, voters are going to have a party each. "I don't like any of them" will be a thing of the past.
    And why not. Let’s get on with reforming our voting system to STV and we can enjoy a profusion of parties, which can set out in public their policy positions and then do the grown up thing and compromise - in public - once the votes are in an a coalition is needed.

    Then we can wave farewell to interminable leadership contests and voters having to choose the least worst option, and we can get some innovation and experimentation into policy formation.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 15,000
    Cookie said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "We must prepare for Prime Minister Farage
    If something is beginning to look inevitable, let’s talk about it.
    By Andrew Marr" (£)

    https://www.newstatesman.com

    Unless Reform win and Zia Yusuf launches a coup to make himself Prime Minister instead.
    At this rate, voters are going to have a party each. "I don't like any of them" will be a thing of the past.
    Was the past peak in political party fragmentation in the Commons 2019?
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,906
    TimS said:

    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
    Bab?
    Yes, as in soccer player Phil but with one less ‘b’

    It’s a regional term of endearment like ‘me duck’.
    The youth prefer "Bub". A shame.

    It was also the traditional name for the youngest child, who was not called by their real name until they were four or five years old. I had a great aunt called "Bab" until she died in her nineties.
    I wonder if the American Mom originates from the Brummie. It certainly doesn’t seem to come from any other European languages that I’m aware of.

    My daughter insists on calling her mother “Mama” despite now being on the cusp of secondary school. She doesn’t call me Papa though, which is disappointing for someone who grew up on Renault Clio ads.
    In the West of Scotland, Papa is your grandfather. Your grandmother is Nana.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,632
    carnforth said:

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
    Jess Philips is a middle class grammar school girl. I was in the same year as her at school - well, the boys school next door. I suspect, though cannot prove, that she is full of affectations.

    Surprisingly common. Moderately famous local historian Carl Chinn speaks awfully posh in real life, for example.
    Philips went to the greatest university in the country and so how she pronounces Mum is of no consequence.
  • eekeek Posts: 30,512
    edited July 3

    eek said:

    Claire Coutinho, not someone I'm a particular fan of, calmly but devastatingly explaining why Ed Milliband is a national security risk.

    https://youtu.be/MEdRtVuYJ5A?si=Nlw5jbPYlMiNL2iX

    Has he really poured concrete down gas wells?

    Is there another word for the destruction of an energy resource so that it cannot be used, even in extremis, other than sabotage?

    The original request came from Boris's Government see this press release https://cuadrillaresources.uk/government-orders-plugging-and-abandonment-of-britains-shale-wells-in-midst-of-energy-crisis/

    I know I joke about this with ‘memo to Kemi’ but whenever a Conservative frontbencher complains about Labour, it turns out it was the blue team wot dunnit. Every single time.
    Except that like (probably) most of your posts, it turns out to be incorrect.

    https://drillordrop.com/2025/02/27/plugging-of-fracked-wells-start-imminent/
    Once again

    Feb 2022 - ordered to plug the wells
    Court cases to avoid doing so kick off
    Feb 2025 - with all court options exhausted they finally start fulfilling the order of Boris's Government.

    You really do seem to have laser focus on any part of the story that matches your bias while attempting to get people to seeing the complete story...

    Edit to add and from the last link - you seem to have missed this bit from your "it was Labour" argument...

    “In August 2023 the UK business received notice from the Regulator requiring plug and abandoning of the two Preston New Road (PNR) shale gas exploration wells by the end of calendar year 2024. In December 2024 that deadline was extended by the Regulator to end June 2025. We are putting plans in place to comply with that instruction.”

    Wasn't Rishi in power in August 2023?
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,906
    Cookie said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "We must prepare for Prime Minister Farage
    If something is beginning to look inevitable, let’s talk about it.
    By Andrew Marr" (£)

    https://www.newstatesman.com

    Unless Reform win and Zia Yusuf launches a coup to make himself Prime Minister instead.
    At this rate, voters are going to have a party each. "I don't like any of them" will be a thing of the past.
    Imagine the length of an STV voting paper.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,665

    Cookie said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "We must prepare for Prime Minister Farage
    If something is beginning to look inevitable, let’s talk about it.
    By Andrew Marr" (£)

    https://www.newstatesman.com

    Unless Reform win and Zia Yusuf launches a coup to make himself Prime Minister instead.
    At this rate, voters are going to have a party each. "I don't like any of them" will be a thing of the past.
    Imagine the length of an STV voting paper.
    And why not. Choice over oligopoly. If British politics were a consumer market the competition and markets authority would
    be all over it.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,057
    TimS said:

    Cookie said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "We must prepare for Prime Minister Farage
    If something is beginning to look inevitable, let’s talk about it.
    By Andrew Marr" (£)

    https://www.newstatesman.com

    Unless Reform win and Zia Yusuf launches a coup to make himself Prime Minister instead.
    At this rate, voters are going to have a party each. "I don't like any of them" will be a thing of the past.
    Imagine the length of an STV voting paper.
    And why not. Choice over oligopoly. If British politics were a consumer market the competition and markets authority would
    be all over it.
    If we go down that road it will end up being run by a French state-controlled company, which might be an improvement.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,988
    edited July 3
    TimS said:

    https://x.com/britainelects/status/1940863401384714638

    Westminster voting intention in the event of a "New Corbyn-led party"

    REF: 27% (-)
    LAB: 20% (-3)
    CON: 20% (-)
    CORB: 10% (+10)
    LDEM: 14% (-)
    GRN: 5% (-4)
    SNP: 2% (-1)

    via More in Common

    A very instructive poll, because it explains the Green party’s current high vote share despite their total lack of media coverage, meaningful policy or direction. They are what Reform would be if there were no Farage.

    Also hints at the persistent role of the SNP as repository for disaffected lefties north of the Border.
    It also implies that a lot of Greens are watermelons. From those figures Polanski is on for a landslide.

    The various independents and perhaps the Greens and Sultana have the potential for an electoral pact.

    Polanski has come out in support on Social Media

    https://bsky.app/profile/zackpolanski.bsky.social/post/3lt3ihwrsxk2u
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 19,041
    eek said:

    eek said:

    Claire Coutinho, not someone I'm a particular fan of, calmly but devastatingly explaining why Ed Milliband is a national security risk.

    https://youtu.be/MEdRtVuYJ5A?si=Nlw5jbPYlMiNL2iX

    Has he really poured concrete down gas wells?

    Is there another word for the destruction of an energy resource so that it cannot be used, even in extremis, other than sabotage?

    The original request came from Boris's Government see this press release https://cuadrillaresources.uk/government-orders-plugging-and-abandonment-of-britains-shale-wells-in-midst-of-energy-crisis/

    I know I joke about this with ‘memo to Kemi’ but whenever a Conservative frontbencher complains about Labour, it turns out it was the blue team wot dunnit. Every single time.
    Except that like (probably) most of your posts, it turns out to be incorrect.

    https://drillordrop.com/2025/02/27/plugging-of-fracked-wells-start-imminent/
    Once again

    Feb 2022 - ordered to plug the wells
    Court cases to avoid doing so kick off
    Feb 2025 - with all court options exhausted they finally start fulfilling the order of Boris's Government.

    You really do seem to have laser focus on any part of the story that matches your bias while attempting to get people to seeing the complete story...

    Edit to add and from the last link - you seem to have missed this bit from your "it was Labour" argument...

    “In August 2023 the UK business received notice from the Regulator requiring plug and abandoning of the two Preston New Road (PNR) shale gas exploration wells by the end of calendar year 2024. In December 2024 that deadline was extended by the Regulator to end June 2025. We are putting plans in place to comply with that instruction.”

    Wasn't Rishi in power in August 2023?
    In office, anyway.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,110
    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.
    For Midlander's it's mum.

    "Mom" is American English and deprecated.
    Nonsense. I’m from Brum, it’s Mom. It always has been certainly where I grew up. West Mids is Mom. Jess Phillips even raised it in Parliament. She uses Mom a lot and also Bab.

    https://projectbritain.com/americanspelling.html

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-mp-jess-phillips-12308391
    It's only mom in the immediate area of B'ham. A few miles outside it's mum.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,632
    Labour launch ten year nhs plan which will touch all our lives to varying degrees and BBC leads the main news on a footballer dying in a car crash and an investigation into illegal cigarettes.

    No wonder our democracy is on life support.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,520

    Labour launch ten year nhs plan which will touch all our lives to varying degrees and BBC leads the main news on a footballer dying in a car crash and an investigation into illegal cigarettes.

    No wonder our democracy is on life support.

    I don't think the public believes the NHS is affected by anything other than funding, sadly.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,110
    edited July 3

    Scott_xP said:

    Oops

    @Gabriel_Pogrund

    EXCLUSIVE: I understand Jeremy Corbyn has not agreed to join the new left party with Zarah Sultana yet

    He is furious and bewildered at the way it has been launched without consultation.

    General Boles summarising the situation with characteristic pith;

    Thoughts and prayers with the boob whisperer

    https://bsky.app/profile/generalboles.bsky.social/post/3lt3jhofpzs2z

    Westminster voting intention in the event of a "New Corbyn-led party"

    REF: 27% (-)
    LAB: 20% (-3)
    CON: 20% (-)
    CORB: 10% (+10)
    LDEM: 14% (-)
    GRN: 5% (-4)
    SNP: 2% (-1)

    via More in Common
    Chgs. w/ standard VI question
    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/polling/2025/06/the-phantom-threat-of-corbyn-2-0


    https://bsky.app/profile/britainelects.com/post/3lt3jflhlek2e

    How do we get back to a world where politicians could say "I hate you, but we're still allies"? It was horribly imperfect, but better than this.
    When they are treated as allies and not as a foreign body to be walled off and triangulated around. Starmer’s treated the left terribly. Its been lies, chicanery and expulsion since he was elected by them. Imagine expecting their votes now.
    The left are probably getting annoyed because they can anticipate that at the next election they're going to be presented with the choice "Vote Starmer or get Farage" and they find the idea of that choice rather unpalatable (understandably so).
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,632
    Foxy said:

    TimS said:

    https://x.com/britainelects/status/1940863401384714638

    Westminster voting intention in the event of a "New Corbyn-led party"

    REF: 27% (-)
    LAB: 20% (-3)
    CON: 20% (-)
    CORB: 10% (+10)
    LDEM: 14% (-)
    GRN: 5% (-4)
    SNP: 2% (-1)

    via More in Common

    A very instructive poll, because it explains the Green party’s current high vote share despite their total lack of media coverage, meaningful policy or direction. They are what Reform would be if there were no Farage.

    Also hints at the persistent role of the SNP as repository for disaffected lefties north of the Border.
    It also implies that a lot of Greens are watermelons. From those figures Polanski is on for a landslide.

    The various independents and perhaps the Greens and Sultana have the potential for an electoral pact.

    Polanski has come out in support on Social Media

    https://bsky.app/profile/zackpolanski.bsky.social/post/3lt3ihwrsxk2u
    I gather Polanski's crew claim they have signed up 1000s of new members to vote for him in recent months.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,381
    Poor old Jezza is probably racing round tonight talking to all the indy groups to tell them when they go live after the currants ejaculations on twitter
    I imagine the phrase 'im too old for this shit' has occured to him
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,520

    Poor old Jezza is probably racing round tonight talking to all the indy groups to tell them when they go live after the currants ejaculations on twitter
    I imagine the phrase 'im too old for this shit' has occured to him

    Currants and Sultana? Good Lord.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,111
    Cookie said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Oops

    @Gabriel_Pogrund

    EXCLUSIVE: I understand Jeremy Corbyn has not agreed to join the new left party with Zarah Sultana yet

    He is furious and bewildered at the way it has been launched without consultation.

    As I posted earlier. Jumped the gun?
    It would be exciting if the New Left party with its two members could manage to split before it's been launched. They're seeing what fun Reform and Advance and Reclaim and the like are having and want a bit of the action.
    New Left

    Left Behind

    Left on the Shelf

    Left Out

    Leftovers

    Left High and Dry

    Left Dangling

    Nothing Left
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,632
    Telegraph leads on Cobyn new party.

    Talks of split on the left. Almost contains its glee.

  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,057
    The ICE budget will be bigger than the entire Italian military under Trump’s BBB.

    https://x.com/ianbremmer/status/1940508029897617452
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,110
    edited July 3

    Telegraph leads on Cobyn new party.

    Talks of split on the left. Almost contains its glee.

    The idea of a party on the left wouldn't get anywhere so no reason for the Telegraph to get gleeful about it. I think the 10% in Matt Goodwin's poll is a bit of an exaggeration.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,381
    carnforth said:

    Poor old Jezza is probably racing round tonight talking to all the indy groups to tell them when they go live after the currants ejaculations on twitter
    I imagine the phrase 'im too old for this shit' has occured to him

    Currants and Sultana? Good Lord.
    Ill prune back my fruit references
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 46,029

    Syrian asylum seeker attacks train passengers with an axe before being overpowered:

    https://m.bild.de/news/inland/ein-mann-hat-in-einem-ice-in-bayern-vier-passagiere-leicht-verletzt-686689db4a482933f5247b42

    It's a pretty obvious way to try and stir up racial hatred to post about every time someone from the group you want people to hate commits a violent crime. What you are, of course, doing is ignoring the context, all the times when someone from other groups commits a similar crime.

    You've had to go to Germany for your case. Here's an axe attack in the UK from 2023, https://www.nottinghamshire.police.uk/news/nottinghamshire/news/news/2024/september/brothers-jailed-for-brutal-axe-attack/ , by Leon Oakden-Gostling and Reece Oakden. Here's David Richards, imprisoned in 2023 for another UK axe attack: https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/death-dreamboys-boss-jailed-attacking-9547066 Thomas Hooson, Leon Headey and Lee Fraser were charged in Scotland for another axe attack: https://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/news/third-man-appears-in-court-on-alleged-highland-axe-attack-334965/ Rhys Jolley, 2023, Cambridgeshire, axe attack: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-66923638 Let's jump to 2025: Stuart Whittaker was charged with an axe attack in Cheshire: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv30qy1k6o I could go on. White British people sometimes commit axe attacks too. We don't want anyone to commit axe attacks, but the solution to that is not to try to whip up hysteria against one group like your hero Donald Trump.
    It’s simply good public policy to minimise the number of people wandering around who have psychological issues liable to make them commit random acts of violence.

    As you correctly point out, we have more than enough of our own. Enoch Powell was perhaps wrong to close the asylums.
    Yes, if ever I get violently attacked I'm very keen for it to be one of our own that does it.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,665

    Telegraph leads on Cobyn new party.

    Talks of split on the left. Almost contains its glee.

    Splits on the left might be exactly what Starmer needs for a reboot. He was at his most ruthlessly effective purging the Corbynites. Boris’ purge of the remainers certainly gave him a spring in his step.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 19,041
    Andy_JS said:

    Telegraph leads on Cobyn new party.

    Talks of split on the left. Almost contains its glee.

    The idea of a party on the left wouldn't get anywhere so no reason for the Telegraph to get gleeful about it. I think the 10% in Matt Goodwin's poll is a bit of an exaggeration.
    Similar to Reform in a way- FInd Our Now does some pretty aggressive things with enthusiasm/certainty to vote. That helps politicians like Farage and Corbyn who induce loyalty from their supporters that other leaders can only dream of.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,057
    kinabalu said:

    Syrian asylum seeker attacks train passengers with an axe before being overpowered:

    https://m.bild.de/news/inland/ein-mann-hat-in-einem-ice-in-bayern-vier-passagiere-leicht-verletzt-686689db4a482933f5247b42

    It's a pretty obvious way to try and stir up racial hatred to post about every time someone from the group you want people to hate commits a violent crime. What you are, of course, doing is ignoring the context, all the times when someone from other groups commits a similar crime.

    You've had to go to Germany for your case. Here's an axe attack in the UK from 2023, https://www.nottinghamshire.police.uk/news/nottinghamshire/news/news/2024/september/brothers-jailed-for-brutal-axe-attack/ , by Leon Oakden-Gostling and Reece Oakden. Here's David Richards, imprisoned in 2023 for another UK axe attack: https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/death-dreamboys-boss-jailed-attacking-9547066 Thomas Hooson, Leon Headey and Lee Fraser were charged in Scotland for another axe attack: https://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/news/third-man-appears-in-court-on-alleged-highland-axe-attack-334965/ Rhys Jolley, 2023, Cambridgeshire, axe attack: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-66923638 Let's jump to 2025: Stuart Whittaker was charged with an axe attack in Cheshire: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv30qy1k6o I could go on. White British people sometimes commit axe attacks too. We don't want anyone to commit axe attacks, but the solution to that is not to try to whip up hysteria against one group like your hero Donald Trump.
    It’s simply good public policy to minimise the number of people wandering around who have psychological issues liable to make them commit random acts of violence.

    As you correctly point out, we have more than enough of our own. Enoch Powell was perhaps wrong to close the asylums.
    Yes, if ever I get violently attacked I'm very keen for it to be one of our own that does it.
    It’s the difference between thinking that the perpetrator should have been sectioned and thinking that they shouldn’t have been let in.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,311
    I was thinking about that leak about Corbyn and Sultana co-leading a new party. I'm sure journalists and others are looking forward to watching Corbyn's anguished denials on camera.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 46,029
    Andy_JS said:

    "We must prepare for Prime Minister Farage
    If something is beginning to look inevitable, let’s talk about it.
    By Andrew Marr" (£)

    https://www.newstatesman.com

    How to do that though. Drugs?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,832
    dixiedean said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
    I think James Dreyfus is verboten now anyway. I’ve still got over a hundred Big Finish stories to listen to from the first 150. After that I stopped buying.
    If you've not watched their interview with Jacqueline Pearce (AKA 'Servalan') it's very worth a go. RIP.
    Ooh, I’ll have to dig it out. She was far more than just Servalan, did a few good horror movies too.

    I love that story of her going round to a fan’s house to discipline him after he wrote her a letter and told her to come after a certain time as him mom will be in bed.
    Mum.
    Not if you’re a Midlander, which I am, and up here in the North East it’s Mam.

    My Mam informed me last week that it changed from Mam to Mum in Wigan between my birth and my brother's three and half years later.
    It's still very much Mam up here.
    Surely "Mam" is what you'd call the Queen?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,297
    So is Jezza on board or not?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,832

    So is Jezza on board or not?

    Jezza hezza-tates?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 46,029

    kinabalu said:

    Syrian asylum seeker attacks train passengers with an axe before being overpowered:

    https://m.bild.de/news/inland/ein-mann-hat-in-einem-ice-in-bayern-vier-passagiere-leicht-verletzt-686689db4a482933f5247b42

    It's a pretty obvious way to try and stir up racial hatred to post about every time someone from the group you want people to hate commits a violent crime. What you are, of course, doing is ignoring the context, all the times when someone from other groups commits a similar crime.

    You've had to go to Germany for your case. Here's an axe attack in the UK from 2023, https://www.nottinghamshire.police.uk/news/nottinghamshire/news/news/2024/september/brothers-jailed-for-brutal-axe-attack/ , by Leon Oakden-Gostling and Reece Oakden. Here's David Richards, imprisoned in 2023 for another UK axe attack: https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/death-dreamboys-boss-jailed-attacking-9547066 Thomas Hooson, Leon Headey and Lee Fraser were charged in Scotland for another axe attack: https://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/news/third-man-appears-in-court-on-alleged-highland-axe-attack-334965/ Rhys Jolley, 2023, Cambridgeshire, axe attack: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-66923638 Let's jump to 2025: Stuart Whittaker was charged with an axe attack in Cheshire: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv30qy1k6o I could go on. White British people sometimes commit axe attacks too. We don't want anyone to commit axe attacks, but the solution to that is not to try to whip up hysteria against one group like your hero Donald Trump.
    It’s simply good public policy to minimise the number of people wandering around who have psychological issues liable to make them commit random acts of violence.

    As you correctly point out, we have more than enough of our own. Enoch Powell was perhaps wrong to close the asylums.
    Yes, if ever I get violently attacked I'm very keen for it to be one of our own that does it.
    It’s the difference between thinking that the perpetrator should have been sectioned and thinking that they shouldn’t have been let in.
    What if they have entered Hampstead from Runcorn?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,381

    So is Jezza on board or not?

    Almost certainly. If theres a row (and i dont really see team Jezza getting on the blower to the Times to bitch) it will be about the timing
    Hes already confirned its on its way and hes in discussions. Any withdrawal now kills the project permanently
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,057
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Syrian asylum seeker attacks train passengers with an axe before being overpowered:

    https://m.bild.de/news/inland/ein-mann-hat-in-einem-ice-in-bayern-vier-passagiere-leicht-verletzt-686689db4a482933f5247b42

    It's a pretty obvious way to try and stir up racial hatred to post about every time someone from the group you want people to hate commits a violent crime. What you are, of course, doing is ignoring the context, all the times when someone from other groups commits a similar crime.

    You've had to go to Germany for your case. Here's an axe attack in the UK from 2023, https://www.nottinghamshire.police.uk/news/nottinghamshire/news/news/2024/september/brothers-jailed-for-brutal-axe-attack/ , by Leon Oakden-Gostling and Reece Oakden. Here's David Richards, imprisoned in 2023 for another UK axe attack: https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/death-dreamboys-boss-jailed-attacking-9547066 Thomas Hooson, Leon Headey and Lee Fraser were charged in Scotland for another axe attack: https://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/news/third-man-appears-in-court-on-alleged-highland-axe-attack-334965/ Rhys Jolley, 2023, Cambridgeshire, axe attack: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-66923638 Let's jump to 2025: Stuart Whittaker was charged with an axe attack in Cheshire: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyv30qy1k6o I could go on. White British people sometimes commit axe attacks too. We don't want anyone to commit axe attacks, but the solution to that is not to try to whip up hysteria against one group like your hero Donald Trump.
    It’s simply good public policy to minimise the number of people wandering around who have psychological issues liable to make them commit random acts of violence.

    As you correctly point out, we have more than enough of our own. Enoch Powell was perhaps wrong to close the asylums.
    Yes, if ever I get violently attacked I'm very keen for it to be one of our own that does it.
    It’s the difference between thinking that the perpetrator should have been sectioned and thinking that they shouldn’t have been let in.
    What if they have entered Hampstead from Runcorn?
    Should have been in an asylum.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,297
    Now that the budget bill has passed Congress, we can see what the projections look like for deficits, government debt, and debt service expenses. In brief, the bill is expected to lead to spending of about $7 trillion a year with inflows of about $5 trillion a year, so the debt, which is now about 6x of the money taken in, 100 percent of GDP, and about $230,000 per American family, will rise over ten years to about 7.5x the money taken in, 130 percent of GDP, and $425,000 per family. That will increase interest and principal payments on the debt from about $10 trillion ($1 trillion in interest, $9 trillion in principal) to about $18 trillion (of which $2 trillion is interest payments), which will lead to either a big squeezing out (and cutting off) of spending and/or unimaginable tax increases, or a lot of printing and devaluing of money and pushing interest rates to unattractively low levels.

    https://x.com/RayDalio/status/1940842227409748385
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