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  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,105
    I've stuck £15 on England winning the cricket at 12/1, lol.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 15,536

    Cookie said:

    For anyone who's interested in how far into the mouth of a river the 'sea' goes:

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/marine-licensing-definitions?utm_source=chatgpt.com

    What do we mean by ‘The Sea’?

    ‘Sea’ includes any area which is submerged at Mean High Water Springs. It also includes the waters of every estuary, river or channel where the tide flows at Mean High Water Spring tide up to the Normal Tidal Limit.


    @Sunil_Prasannan @Gallowgate @rcs1000

    Westminster is on the Thames Estuary???
    Yes. That's the implication of the definition.
    This isn't particularly controversial, Sunil. I remember this being mentioned in passing at GCSE geography.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,632
    There is nothing Bessent won't say in order to abase himself to the Cult, presumably in order to become next Fed Chair:


    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    ·
    1h
    "The president is the most economically sophisticated president certainly for 100 years, perhaps in history." - Scott Bessent

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,392
    Blimey, Michael Madsen has died. Only 67.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,097

    Interesting column from @viewcode ’s favourite Mary Harrington.

    https://unherd.com/2025/07/what-is-wrong-with-the-right/

    What is wrong with the Right?
    Too many mavericks, not enough radicals

    Not my favourite, and I genuinely disagree with some of (most of?) her stances. But she does generate or adumbrate interesting ideas.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,297
    edited July 3
    Andy_JS said:

    I've stuck £15 on England winning the cricket at 12/1, lol.

    120/1 and I might be interested. Only might mind you.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,904

    Cookie said:

    For anyone who's interested in how far into the mouth of a river the 'sea' goes:

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/marine-licensing-definitions?utm_source=chatgpt.com

    What do we mean by ‘The Sea’?

    ‘Sea’ includes any area which is submerged at Mean High Water Springs. It also includes the waters of every estuary, river or channel where the tide flows at Mean High Water Spring tide up to the Normal Tidal Limit.


    @Sunil_Prasannan @Gallowgate @rcs1000

    Westminster is on the Thames Estuary???
    From Sandy Denny’s “The Sea”

    Sea flows under your doors in London town.
    And all your defences are all broken down.
    You laugh at me on funny days, but mine's the slight of hand.
    Don't you know I am a joker, a deceiver?
    And I'm waiting for the land.
  • viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    You take that back. She's not been able to do anything wrong in my eyes since she played that substitute English teacher with the slightly too tight sweater in Spooks.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 46,029

    There is nothing Bessent won't say in order to abase himself to the Cult, presumably in order to become next Fed Chair:

    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    ·
    1h
    "The president is the most economically sophisticated president certainly for 100 years, perhaps in history." - Scott Bessent

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian

    Why do they do it? Isn't a degree of self-respect supposed to be key to a happy fulfilled life?
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,904

    DoctorG said:

    eek said:

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Love to know how that will play out in those National Parks that look like they do because of the farming done there....
    Rewilding and conservation grazing.

    The Lakes are an upland desert except in a few inaccessible places where the sheep can't reach (eg East face of Helvellyn) where a few remnant arctic/alpines remain.

    See Ennerdale (or Glen Feshie).

    I would worry about marginal land in other areas though. Going to be a wind farm gold rush
    Yes, what subsidy schemes are left are all going that way (nature restoration). National parks will likely still be largely wind farm free, the rest of the uplands will be deemed fair game for turbines.

    The average age of farmers is a lot older in the uplands and hills. The government know those guys without successors won't be there forever, plus it'll save a bit of money long term if there are less upland farms and nature takes its course.

    Quite a few villages in southern Scotland now have more wind farms in the vicinity than human residents
    Nowt wrong with that.

    Plenty of space for turbines, its a productive use of land. And if upland, plenty of wind too.

    Very sensible.
    We don’t have too many turbines. We have too few people.
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,447
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    DI Alex Drake.

    She looks fine, but not like she’s enhanced
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,010
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    Natural looks combined with good lighting, make-up, and some amount of work (not too much) can take 15 years off easily. Its when being too ambitious - eg 50 trying to look 30 rather than 40 looking 30 - that trouble hits.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,392

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    You take that back. She's not been able to do anything wrong in my eyes since she played that substitute English teacher with the slightly too tight sweater in Spooks.
    Oi, I saw her first in 1997 in the video for “She’s a star” by James. Hands off.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,010
    kinabalu said:

    There is nothing Bessent won't say in order to abase himself to the Cult, presumably in order to become next Fed Chair:

    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    ·
    1h
    "The president is the most economically sophisticated president certainly for 100 years, perhaps in history." - Scott Bessent

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian

    Why do they do it? Isn't a degree of self-respect supposed to be key to a happy fulfilled life?
    They passed that line long ago. They do it because normal sycophantic praise doesn't work on Trump.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 19,039
    kinabalu said:

    There is nothing Bessent won't say in order to abase himself to the Cult, presumably in order to become next Fed Chair:

    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    ·
    1h
    "The president is the most economically sophisticated president certainly for 100 years, perhaps in history." - Scott Bessent

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian

    Why do they do it? Isn't a degree of self-respect supposed to be key to a happy fulfilled life?
    Possibly. Though plenty of people are able to dull the howling of the resulting void with money, power and alcohol.

    (One of the problems with creating a good society is the way that each extra pound generates a bit less additional happiness. So, at the top, you need to give people absurd amounts of money. I've been missing on this a lot recently, which probably says a lot about the kind of school year I have had.)
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,511
    boulay said:

    kle4 said:

    boulay said:

    kle4 said:

    I question this - I remember a ridiculous amount of media hyping a backlash, but how many actual human beings were that het up about it?

    Banknotes issued by the Bank of England are about to get their first major redesign in more than 50 years...At times the choices have landed the Bank in hot water. The absence of any women, apart from Queen Elizabeth II, on notes in 2013 prompted a huge backlash.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4nn1d2vzxo

    One of the suggestions is Iconic British Buildings which I think would be the best choice as there is a limit to any culture war about them and also, I’m guessing, we aren’t going to find out that St Pancras Station had been kiddy fiddling all along so low risk.
    The cheesegrater it is.
    £5 Liver buildings
    £10 Caernarfon castle
    £20 something nice in Edinburgh.
    £50 St Paul’s Cathedral

    Shame you don’t have pound notes as would suit something in Manchester.

    All bland choices that shouldn’t give any particular tribe the vapours.
    All the best buildings are in London. Bridges, however, are more evenly spread around: Tyne; Forth; Tower; Severn. Still nothing for Manchester, mind.
  • boulay said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    You take that back. She's not been able to do anything wrong in my eyes since she played that substitute English teacher with the slightly too tight sweater in Spooks.
    Oi, I saw her first in 1997 in the video for “She’s a star” by James. Hands off.
    * googles date of Tipping the Velvet. Concedes defeat *
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 5,111
    DoctorG said:

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Pretty much saying what they were doing by stealth.

    Loads of productive land will also be removed due to the increasingly prolific number of solar farms being approved. A lot of these will be done via rental agreements rather than energy companies buying the land
    The land that is so productive that farms will go under without the inheritance tax relief, so the farmers claim?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,275
    boulay said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    You take that back. She's not been able to do anything wrong in my eyes since she played that substitute English teacher with the slightly too tight sweater in Spooks.
    Oi, I saw her first in 1997 in the video for “She’s a star” by James. Hands off.
    I recall Tipping the Velvet with some fondness.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,725

    There is nothing Bessent won't say in order to abase himself to the Cult, presumably in order to become next Fed Chair:


    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    ·
    1h
    "The president is the most economically sophisticated president certainly for 100 years, perhaps in history." - Scott Bessent

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian

    Damn, I have just finished my tea and now I feel nauseous.
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 2,005
    I believe 'local lad done good' Paul Nuttall has been appointed vice-chair of Reform UK.

    I'm reminded of Stewart Lee's sketch at this time........
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,297
    edited July 3
    Newly-built social housing in England will be exempt from Right to Buy for 35 years, under government plans to further scale back the policy. Social tenants will also have to live in their properties for much longer before qualifying for the scheme, which allows them to buy at a discount.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6257pr3q76o
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,297
    Diogo Jota was on his way to take a ferry and return to Liverpool for pre-season training when he died in a car accident, BBC Sport has been told.

    The Portugal forward, who was 28, had undergone minor surgery so doctors had advised him against flying.

    As a result, he was planning to return to Liverpool for the start of pre-season, due to begin on Monday, by boat.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,691

    There is nothing Bessent won't say in order to abase himself to the Cult, presumably in order to become next Fed Chair:


    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    ·
    1h
    "The president is the most economically sophisticated president certainly for 100 years, perhaps in history." - Scott Bessent

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian

    Economically sophisticated? Is that statement true because he has the knack of NEVER paying for ANYTHING?
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,697

    Newly-built social housing in England will be exempt from Right to Buy for 35 years, under government plans to further scale back the policy. Social tenants will also have to live in their properties for much longer before qualifying for the scheme, which allows them to buy at a discount.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6257pr3q76o

    Good
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,381
    Some Labour backbenchers demanding the 9 PA rebels lose the whip
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,056

    There is nothing Bessent won't say in order to abase himself to the Cult, presumably in order to become next Fed Chair:


    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    ·
    1h
    "The president is the most economically sophisticated president certainly for 100 years, perhaps in history." - Scott Bessent

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian

    Economically sophisticated? Is that statement true because he has the knack of NEVER paying for ANYTHING?
    It's true because even the most sophisticated economists struggle to understand Trump's thinking.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,297

    I believe 'local lad done good' Paul Nuttall has been appointed vice-chair of Reform UK.

    I'm reminded of Stewart Lee's sketch at this time........

    That's "Dr" Paul Nuttall.....
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 46,029

    kinabalu said:

    There is nothing Bessent won't say in order to abase himself to the Cult, presumably in order to become next Fed Chair:

    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    ·
    1h
    "The president is the most economically sophisticated president certainly for 100 years, perhaps in history." - Scott Bessent

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian

    Why do they do it? Isn't a degree of self-respect supposed to be key to a happy fulfilled life?
    Possibly. Though plenty of people are able to dull the howling of the resulting void with money, power and alcohol.

    (One of the problems with creating a good society is the way that each extra pound generates a bit less additional happiness. So, at the top, you need to give people absurd amounts of money. I've been missing on this a lot recently, which probably says a lot about the kind of school year I have had.)
    Another powerful argument for redistribution. Not just fairness but net utility. The same pound is worth more to the poor man than the rich man. So when it moves down the curve utility is created.

    Yes, teaching can be v stressful, I know. There are some in my family.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,632
    Jeez. The lead photo for this piece.

    It's like a shot from Kramer vs Kramer or something.

    https://observer.co.uk/news/politics/article/the-only-way-out-for-keir-starmer-and-rachel-reeves-is-to-show-sheer-audacity
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,297
    What an escape for Draper there.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,297
    edited July 3

    Jeez. The lead photo for this piece.

    It's like a shot from Kramer vs Kramer or something.

    https://observer.co.uk/news/politics/article/the-only-way-out-for-keir-starmer-and-rachel-reeves-is-to-show-sheer-audacity

    Looks natural, look relaxed, look like you want to be here....
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 88

    DoctorG said:

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Pretty much saying what they were doing by stealth.

    Loads of productive land will also be removed due to the increasingly prolific number of solar farms being approved. A lot of these will be done via rental agreements rather than energy companies buying the land
    The land that is so productive that farms will go under without the inheritance tax relief, so the farmers claim?
    The IHT stuff is a lottery, if you are young enough you can shift it across to the next generation now and live 7 years, put it into partnership or ltd company, use your wife/partner to transfer a share, there are plenty of options. Older farmers who have hung onto assets til they are 80 plus, or seriously ill are the ones who will be most at risk to the IHT change.

    One of farmings biggest threats to its future is the younger generation wanting easier, better paid jobs for the amount of effort they put in. There will be a sea change in both attitude and farming over the next 20 years

    With productive land, I'd argue you've slightly more options what to do. You can't build a new town 2000 feet up in the Pennines
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 2,005

    I believe 'local lad done good' Paul Nuttall has been appointed vice-chair of Reform UK.

    I'm reminded of Stewart Lee's sketch at this time........

    That's "Dr" Paul Nuttall.....
    BSC SSC too!

    (With thanks to Arnold J Rimmer)
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 46,029

    I believe 'local lad done good' Paul Nuttall has been appointed vice-chair of Reform UK.

    I'm reminded of Stewart Lee's sketch at this time........

    That was a hall of fame routine.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,381
    edited July 3
    The triple B passes in the House of Reps
  • CookieCookie Posts: 15,536

    I believe 'local lad done good' Paul Nuttall has been appointed vice-chair of Reform UK.

    I'm reminded of Stewart Lee's sketch at this time........

    Was that the one where he goes back to the Beaker People, identifying one wave of hostile immigrants spelling bad news for the whoever the current population was after another? I remember at the time thinking that wasn't necessarily the slam-dunk take down of the anti-immigration position that he or his audience appeared to believe it to be.
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 2,005
    Cookie said:

    I believe 'local lad done good' Paul Nuttall has been appointed vice-chair of Reform UK.

    I'm reminded of Stewart Lee's sketch at this time........

    Was that the one where he goes back to the Beaker People, identifying one wave of hostile immigrants spelling bad news for the whoever the current population was after another? I remember at the time thinking that wasn't necessarily the slam-dunk take down of the anti-immigration position that he or his audience appeared to believe it to be.
    It was and you’re right, it isn’t a complete destruction of the argument but it made me laugh. Lee is very good.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,297
    Come on Jack Emma....
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,010
    Cookie said:

    I believe 'local lad done good' Paul Nuttall has been appointed vice-chair of Reform UK.

    I'm reminded of Stewart Lee's sketch at this time........

    Was that the one where he goes back to the Beaker People, identifying one wave of hostile immigrants spelling bad news for the whoever the current population was after another? I remember at the time thinking that wasn't necessarily the slam-dunk take down of the anti-immigration position that he or his audience appeared to believe it to be.
    It was a funny bit, but funny bits even where they contain grains of truth do not always translate perfectly to practical political points. It's like using a line about being historically a nation of immgrants, which signals a position without I think being strictly true in the way people would generally mean such a line.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,056
    kinabalu said:

    I believe 'local lad done good' Paul Nuttall has been appointed vice-chair of Reform UK.

    I'm reminded of Stewart Lee's sketch at this time........

    That was a hall of fame routine.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y38pbfJ4i_U

    Paul Nuttall of the UKIPs was right.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 88

    Come on Jack Emma....

    Cam norrie can't face a seeded player til at least the QF (jinxed him now) ....
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,381
    edited July 3

    kinabalu said:

    I believe 'local lad done good' Paul Nuttall has been appointed vice-chair of Reform UK.

    I'm reminded of Stewart Lee's sketch at this time........

    That was a hall of fame routine.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y38pbfJ4i_U

    Paul Nuttall of the UKIPs was right.
    He was the last (semi) serious leader they had before a parade of increasingly ridiculous buffoons
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,381
    Trump surely has to veto the BBB for the lolz now
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,606
    edited July 3
    Oh no . Cilic plays his best match in years . A really horrible draw for Jack but still I think most people expected him to win .
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 36,105
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    Not necessarily true, some people stay looking fairly young for ages.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,013

    I believe 'local lad done good' Paul Nuttall has been appointed vice-chair of Reform UK.

    I'm reminded of Stewart Lee's sketch at this time........

    That's "Dr" Paul Nuttall.....
    BSC SSC too!

    (With thanks to Arnold J Rimmer)
    Nuttall’s doctorate is real. I took part in the same graduation.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 15,536
    kle4 said:

    Cookie said:

    I believe 'local lad done good' Paul Nuttall has been appointed vice-chair of Reform UK.

    I'm reminded of Stewart Lee's sketch at this time........

    Was that the one where he goes back to the Beaker People, identifying one wave of hostile immigrants spelling bad news for the whoever the current population was after another? I remember at the time thinking that wasn't necessarily the slam-dunk take down of the anti-immigration position that he or his audience appeared to believe it to be.
    It was a funny bit, but funny bits even where they contain grains of truth do not always translate perfectly to practical political points. It's like using a line about being historically a nation of immgrants, which signals a position without I think being strictly true in the way people would generally mean such a line.
    But this one translated into the opposite political point to the one he was intending to make. Unless he genuinely was trying to present an argument against immigration.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,945
    Reform UK councillor Amanda Clare has been charged with assault and criminal damage after an incident at a Pride event. The councillor who represents the Winsford Dene ward on Cheshire West and Chester Council, is to appear before magistrates in Crewe on Friday 8 August.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,632

    The triple B passes in the House of Reps

    And the fascist cult all chant 'USA' in unison.

    Are you white and poor and living in rural America with only one small cottage hospital twenty miles away? Made the mistake of voting for Donald Trump because he would make America Great Again?

    Oh dear. You are totally fucked.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,518
    Sean_F said:

    I believe 'local lad done good' Paul Nuttall has been appointed vice-chair of Reform UK.

    I'm reminded of Stewart Lee's sketch at this time........

    That's "Dr" Paul Nuttall.....
    BSC SSC too!

    (With thanks to Arnold J Rimmer)
    Nuttall’s doctorate is real. I took part in the same graduation.
    I have a doctorate. It's just a reflection of my ability to stick to one topic for four years. And not much more.

    This characterisation may vary per subject, of course.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,632
    NY Times:

    The House on Thursday narrowly passed a sweeping bill to extend tax cuts and slash social safety net programs, capping Republicans’ chaotic monthslong slog to overcome deep rifts within their party and deliver President Trump’s domestic agenda.

    The final vote, 218 to 214, was mostly along party lines and came after Speaker Mike Johnson spent a frenzied day and night toiling to quell resistance in his own ranks that threatened until the very end to derail the president’s signature measure.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,381
    Fitzpatrick and Massie voted no, all others on party lines
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,010

    NY Times:

    The House on Thursday narrowly passed a sweeping bill to extend tax cuts and slash social safety net programs, capping Republicans’ chaotic monthslong slog to overcome deep rifts within their party and deliver President Trump’s domestic agenda.

    The final vote, 218 to 214, was mostly along party lines and came after Speaker Mike Johnson spent a frenzied day and night toiling to quell resistance in his own ranks that threatened until the very end to derail the president’s signature measure.

    There was a lot of attempt at drama but I don't think there was ever any real prospect of it not passing.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,632
    The two Republicans who voted against this bill were representative of the political divide within the party that threatened its passage. Representative Thomas Massie of Kentucky is a fiscal hawk who strongly opposes measures that would increase the federal deficit and add significantly to the national debt. Representative Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania is a moderate from a battleground district that Democrats are eager to flip. He had previously expressed deep reservations about cuts to Medicaid funding.

    NY Times
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,447
    Utter legend

    Teacher 'swigged alcohol during rave-like lesson and called pupils little sh**s'

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/teacher-swigged-alcohol-during-rave-35488334?



  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,297
    edited July 3
    Sean_F said:

    I believe 'local lad done good' Paul Nuttall has been appointed vice-chair of Reform UK.

    I'm reminded of Stewart Lee's sketch at this time........

    That's "Dr" Paul Nuttall.....
    BSC SSC too!

    (With thanks to Arnold J Rimmer)
    Nuttall’s doctorate is real. I took part in the same graduation.
    Did he go back in the end and finish it? Because when the media inquired around 2015 it was found he never completed it after starting in 2004. He did have a degree and a masters and a teaching qualification.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,275
    Taz said:

    Utter legend

    Teacher 'swigged alcohol during rave-like lesson and called pupils little sh**s'

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/teacher-swigged-alcohol-during-rave-35488334?



    It was a drug and alcohol awareness class.
    Her class were very aware.
    Did learning take place?
    Absolutely.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,381
    Sultana quits Labour Party and is co founding new party with Corbyn
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 39,150
    @GuidoFawkes
    ·
    2m
    Break - Left wing MP Zarah Sultana quits Labour and announces she is co-founding a new party with Jeremy Corbyn
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,097
    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    DI Alex Drake.

    She looks fine, but not like she’s enhanced
    "Enhanced?" No. But she looks different, and not normal aging different. I've had another look and it doesn't look like cosmetic surgery (except possibly buccal fat removal?), more weight loss: her cheekbones are more prominent: indeed most of the skull. Her neck is going too, which is unusual for a woman her age. It's not the saggy look you get with aging, more like underskin fat removal, hence me thinking Ozempic/dental work/illness.

    Oh, and much to my delight "Ashes to Ashes" is on iPlayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00jhp3l/ashes-to-ashes
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,381
    The new party will be larger than Reform in the HoC, lol
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,938
    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,097
    Scott_xP said:

    @GuidoFawkes
    ·
    2m
    Break - Left wing MP Zarah Sultana quits Labour and announces she is co-founding a new party with Jeremy Corbyn

    https://x.com/zarahsultana/status/1940850950681554996

    Not a bright move. Understandable given her views, but I doubt she'll keep her seat after 2029
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,056

    The new party will be larger than Reform in the HoC, lol

    Will the Gazan Independents be part of it too?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,097
    kinabalu said:

    There is nothing Bessent won't say in order to abase himself to the Cult, presumably in order to become next Fed Chair:

    Spencer Hakimian
    @SpencerHakimian
    ·
    1h
    "The president is the most economically sophisticated president certainly for 100 years, perhaps in history." - Scott Bessent

    https://x.com/SpencerHakimian

    Why do they do it? Isn't a degree of self-respect supposed to be key to a happy fulfilled life?
    Money can buy a lot of self-respect.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,938
    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    DI Alex Drake.

    She looks fine, but not like she’s enhanced
    Some odd takes on this. Looks like that actress at that age.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,518
    Scott_xP said:

    @GuidoFawkes
    ·
    2m
    Break - Left wing MP Zarah Sultana quits Labour and announces she is co-founding a new party with Jeremy Corbyn

    Good riddance. Can she take gormless Nadia with her too?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,381
    edited July 3

    The new party will be larger than Reform in the HoC, lol

    Will the Gazan Independents be part of it too?
    Yes, she says it will consist of the Magic Grandpa 5, her and a selection of the gaza indy type groups around the country - presumably the likes of the Newham indies etc
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,097

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out. I'm pulling my hair out with frustration at this, as you may have noticed.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,938
    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    DI Alex Drake.

    She looks fine, but not like she’s enhanced
    "Enhanced?" No. But she looks different, and not normal aging different. I've had another look and it doesn't look like cosmetic surgery (except possibly buccal fat removal?), more weight loss: her cheekbones are more prominent: indeed most of the skull. Her neck is going too, which is unusual for a woman her age. It's not the saggy look you get with aging, more like underskin fat removal, hence me thinking Ozempic/dental work/illness.

    Oh, and much to my delight "Ashes to Ashes" is on iPlayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00jhp3l/ashes-to-ashes
    Ok dear.
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,447
    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    DI Alex Drake.

    She looks fine, but not like she’s enhanced
    "Enhanced?" No. But she looks different, and not normal aging different. I've had another look and it doesn't look like cosmetic surgery (except possibly buccal fat removal?), more weight loss: her cheekbones are more prominent: indeed most of the skull. Her neck is going too, which is unusual for a woman her age. It's not the saggy look you get with aging, more like underskin fat removal, hence me thinking Ozempic/dental work/illness.

    Oh, and much to my delight "Ashes to Ashes" is on iPlayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00jhp3l/ashes-to-ashes
    She’s good in everything she does.

    Ashes to Ashes was excellent. Something I need to rewatch. Possibly when I finish Whitechapel.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,097

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    DI Alex Drake.

    She looks fine, but not like she’s enhanced
    "Enhanced?" No. But she looks different, and not normal aging different. I've had another look and it doesn't look like cosmetic surgery (except possibly buccal fat removal?), more weight loss: her cheekbones are more prominent: indeed most of the skull. Her neck is going too, which is unusual for a woman her age. It's not the saggy look you get with aging, more like underskin fat removal, hence me thinking Ozempic/dental work/illness.

    Oh, and much to my delight "Ashes to Ashes" is on iPlayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00jhp3l/ashes-to-ashes
    Ok dear.
    ???????
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,097
    edited July 3

    The new party will be larger than Reform in the HoC, lol

    Will the Gazan Independents be part of it too?
    Yes, she says it will consist of the Magic Grandpa 5, her and a selection of the gaza indy type groups around the country - presumably the likes of the Newham indies etc
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Alliance_(UK)
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,097
    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    DI Alex Drake.

    She looks fine, but not like she’s enhanced
    "Enhanced?" No. But she looks different, and not normal aging different. I've had another look and it doesn't look like cosmetic surgery (except possibly buccal fat removal?), more weight loss: her cheekbones are more prominent: indeed most of the skull. Her neck is going too, which is unusual for a woman her age. It's not the saggy look you get with aging, more like underskin fat removal, hence me thinking Ozempic/dental work/illness.

    Oh, and much to my delight "Ashes to Ashes" is on iPlayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00jhp3l/ashes-to-ashes
    She’s good in everything she does.

    Ashes to Ashes was excellent. Something I need to rewatch. Possibly when I finish Whitechapel.
    Also good in "The Bodyguard", IIRC.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,056
    ydoethur said:

    Sultana quits Labour Party and is co founding new party with Corbyn

    Finally, some good news for Starmer.
    They'll probably unseat some relatively big Labour names next time.
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,447

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    DI Alex Drake.

    She looks fine, but not like she’s enhanced
    Some odd takes on this. Looks like that actress at that age.
    It’s like the clickbait stories you get, you’ll be amazed how actor in a film in the eighties looks today.

    People age.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 12,381
    Id imagine Aspana Begum who is currently suspended is quite a likely joiner for the Magic Sultana Mix
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,447
    edited July 3
    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    DI Alex Drake.

    She looks fine, but not like she’s enhanced
    "Enhanced?" No. But she looks different, and not normal aging different. I've had another look and it doesn't look like cosmetic surgery (except possibly buccal fat removal?), more weight loss: her cheekbones are more prominent: indeed most of the skull. Her neck is going too, which is unusual for a woman her age. It's not the saggy look you get with aging, more like underskin fat removal, hence me thinking Ozempic/dental work/illness.

    Oh, and much to my delight "Ashes to Ashes" is on iPlayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00jhp3l/ashes-to-ashes
    She’s good in everything she does.

    Ashes to Ashes was excellent. Something I need to rewatch. Possibly when I finish Whitechapel.
    Also good in "The Bodyguard", IIRC.
    I was surprised that it only had one season given how well it rated.
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,447
    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,057

    Id imagine Aspana Begum who is currently suspended is quite a likely joiner for the Magic Sultana Mix

    Surely Corbyn would not be interested in a gormless failure accused of unsavoury links with a totalitarian foreign regime?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,831

    Id imagine Aspana Begum who is currently suspended is quite a likely joiner for the Magic Sultana Mix

    Yeast is Yeast?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,057
    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,447
    Scott_xP said:

    @GuidoFawkes
    ·
    2m
    Break - Left wing MP Zarah Sultana quits Labour and announces she is co-founding a new party with Jeremy Corbyn

    ..


  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,013

    Sean_F said:

    I believe 'local lad done good' Paul Nuttall has been appointed vice-chair of Reform UK.

    I'm reminded of Stewart Lee's sketch at this time........

    That's "Dr" Paul Nuttall.....
    BSC SSC too!

    (With thanks to Arnold J Rimmer)
    Nuttall’s doctorate is real. I took part in the same graduation.
    Did he go back in the end and finish it? Because when the media inquired around 2015 it was found he never completed it after starting in 2004. He did have a degree and a masters and a teaching qualification.
    Yes, it was a thesis about the Conservative Party in Liverpool, in the early 20th century. He graduated in 2023.
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 2,005
    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Here is an advert for an Amazon Prime series called "The Assassin"

    Without peeking, tell me who the female lead is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LX_d3NKDYc

    She's looking good for someone my age. Blimey.
    She's 49. You don't get to look that different at that age without some kind of work having been done, or illness or dental work (or Ozempic?). I genuinely thought she was a different actress
    DI Alex Drake.

    She looks fine, but not like she’s enhanced
    "Enhanced?" No. But she looks different, and not normal aging different. I've had another look and it doesn't look like cosmetic surgery (except possibly buccal fat removal?), more weight loss: her cheekbones are more prominent: indeed most of the skull. Her neck is going too, which is unusual for a woman her age. It's not the saggy look you get with aging, more like underskin fat removal, hence me thinking Ozempic/dental work/illness.

    Oh, and much to my delight "Ashes to Ashes" is on iPlayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00jhp3l/ashes-to-ashes
    Season 1 is very very rewatchable I find. I don't know what it is, but it works a lot better than 2 and 3 (though I did like Jim Keats). Perhaps it just felt more like 1981 than seasons 2 and 3 (which didn't feel quite right for me).
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,447
    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,904
    DoctorG said:

    DoctorG said:

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Pretty much saying what they were doing by stealth.

    Loads of productive land will also be removed due to the increasingly prolific number of solar farms being approved. A lot of these will be done via rental agreements rather than energy companies buying the land
    The land that is so productive that farms will go under without the inheritance tax relief, so the farmers claim?
    The IHT stuff is a lottery, if you are young enough you can shift it across to the next generation now and live 7 years, put it into partnership or ltd company, use your wife/partner to transfer a share, there are plenty of options. Older farmers who have hung onto assets til they are 80 plus, or seriously ill are the ones who will be most at risk to the IHT change.

    One of farmings biggest threats to its future is the younger generation wanting easier, better paid jobs for the amount of effort they put in. There will be a sea change in both attitude and farming over the next 20 years

    With productive land, I'd argue you've slightly more options what to do. You can't build a new town 2000 feet up in the Pennines
    The farm IHT should have been phased in over 7 years to enable farmers to carry out some tax planning.
    Re the Pennines, Buxton and Alston say hello. Is there anywhere on the Pennines with a large enough area over 2000 feet to build a town?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,057
    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,938
    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    I believe 'local lad done good' Paul Nuttall has been appointed vice-chair of Reform UK.

    I'm reminded of Stewart Lee's sketch at this time........

    That's "Dr" Paul Nuttall.....
    BSC SSC too!

    (With thanks to Arnold J Rimmer)
    Nuttall’s doctorate is real. I took part in the same graduation.
    Did he go back in the end and finish it? Because when the media inquired around 2015 it was found he never completed it after starting in 2004. He did have a degree and a masters and a teaching qualification.
    Yes, it was a thesis about the Conservative Party in Liverpool, in the early 20th century. He graduated in 2023.
    He did some interesting policy work in UKIP around the constitution. Definitely a good hire for Reform.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,097
    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 74,057
    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,097
    edited July 3
    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    I thought you might have miss(y)ed the point... :)
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,447
    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,904

    ydoethur said:

    Sultana quits Labour Party and is co founding new party with Corbyn

    Finally, some good news for Starmer.
    They'll probably unseat some relatively big Labour names next time.
    Hopefully the MP for Holborn and St. Pancras.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 25,097
    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    ydoethur said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    ..

    Some farms will be taken entirely out of food production under plans to make space for nature, the environment secretary has said.

    Speaking at the Groundswell farming festival in Hertfordshire, Steve Reed said a revamp of the post Brexit farming subsidies and a new land use plan will be aimed at increasing food production in the most productive areas and decreasing or completely removing it in the least productive. In reality, this means many upland farmers may be incentivised to stop farming.

    Vile agenda.

    A good reminder that Labour are malign as well as incompetent.
    There are a lot of metropolitan elite who think food comes from shops, nobody wants to invade, the system isn't broken and if everybody was just nice to each other it will all work out.
    Sounds like the Union of Traken.

    Didn’t end too well.
    The Master blew it up?
    He certainly finished it off. Something to do with entropy. Which carries over to the next story.
    I was Ainley making a feeble attempt at humour.
    It would simm so, yes.
    Roger, that.
    Dhawan that got away.
    He sacha'd away

    (I'm logging off now before we get onto the Big Finish Masters, of which there are many... :) )
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