I have got on a looooooong train to Cornwall with a nice bottle of Cune Rioja, my trusty metal cup, and I’ve forgotten my bloody corkscrew
HELP
You can open a wine bottle with a shoe, place the bottle inside the shoe (heel against the bottle's base) and hit the shoe against a wall. The force of the impact against the wall, transferred through the shoe, helps push the cork out. Its can get quite messy though...
The other trick is you heat the air between the wine and the cork with a lighter.
After Covid , and Ukraine the world was hoping for less drama . Instead we got Trump again , Netenyahus genocide and now a possibility that things unravel further after the US got involved with Iran.
If the Straits of Hormuz are shut then oil prices will spike causing a further hit to growth and spiking inflation .
Trump seems to be actively working against the UK and yet the country is expected to roll out the red carpet for another state visit !
Iranian Parliament has voted to close it.
Final decision with Khamenei
The economic havoc it will wreak will be worth it to keep Bibi out of jail 👍
1. It’s the main route for Iranian oil exports - so it is economically self-harming even as the regime totters. Dangerous
2. It will antagonise every other country in the area. esp Gulf States, plus Saudi, etc
3. It won’t hurt America much. America doesn’t need gulf oil
Iran is impotent and defenceless right now
Because the price of gas is literally the only weapon anyone has which works on the USA.
But it’s much less of a weapon now America is energy self-sufficient. It will hurt other oil importing countries - Europe, China - a lot more
I'm afraid this is not correct.
America is self sufficient in theory, but in reality they import a massive amount of Canadian oil. Effectively, Canadian heavy oil comes into the US, while US light oil is exported to Europe.
So, why would the Canadians export their oil at less than market rates to the US? If oil prices spike, then America can either pay market rates, or they'll export it to China, Korea and Japan by tanker instead.
Because America will tell Canada what to do
It's not in the hands of the Canadian government. Energy companies are private companies beholden to their shareholders.
And one of Canada's largest - Husky Energy - is ultimately Chinese owned.
In normal times you might have a point. These are not normal times and Trump is not a normal president. He would bully Canada into submission
How did the US bullying Canada over tariffs work?
Do you think there are many votes in Canada for taking the knee to Trump?
Trump has just shown he is willing to go further than any president before. Directly bombing Iran
I can see him being fairly brutal with Canada and in the end Canada, being a tenth the size of the USA, would yield
The Canadian government is not going to legislate to nationalise the entire oil and gas industry in Canada to enable Trump to keep petrol prices low.
Just a few months ago, the Conservative Premier of Ontatio - Doug Ford - was threatening to turn the electricity supply off to Michigan over the Trump tariffs.
Trump can bluster and threaten all he wants, but countries and politicians have "face". The more you threaten, the less likely they are to acede to your wishes.
If Trump had wanted Canada onside, he would have been much better off being nice to them. Because right now, there are substantially fewer than zero votes in getting down and sucking Trump's cock.
Why are you so busily bayoneting a straw man?
I never said morally Trump *should* do this or that, nor did I dispute that it’s generally better to be nice than nasty. I’m just saying Trump is Sui generis and he’s proven he’s not TACO POTUS after all
If he wants to force Canada to its knees he can do it. And Canada would surrender
And that is simply incorrect.
Because Canada can turn off the pumping stations on Keystone, and can stop sending electricity to the US.
That would send petrol prices shooting up in the US, and cast much of northern Michigan into darkness.
The US is not the only country with agency.
76% of Canada’s exports go to the USA
17% of the USA’s exports go to Canada
A vast disparity. As we in Britain know, painfully, the larger entity in trade negotiations, let alone trade wars, has the upper hand and the weaker party usually has to yield
America is also much richer and militarily waaaay more powerful than Canada. A Canadian PM can act all plucky and wave the maple leaf but in the end if it’s a choice between total economic meltdown or agreeing to help America through a modest Hormuzian oil crisis - I’m pretty sure the Canadian premier would choose the latter
Trump could even frame it as a moral choice. Which side are you on? The west or the Islamists?
PBs idiot pontificates again. If America isn't invading Canada (I'm surprised you have accepted that in your madness. I thought you might want to nuke them) what is America going to do? If it is down to trade then yes America has the whip hand in buying Canadian goods, but if it forces Canada to then cuts off the oil, gas and electricity, what then? That is pretty much an instant effect. Then there is the Aluminium. That will bring American industry to s standstill pretty quickly.
You really are on a roll today Granddad.
It would never get that far because Canada would yield
We are now - sadly - in an era of naked power politics. All the old rules are falling away
The USA is a superpower with an enormous military and the world’s reserve currency. Canada is not these things. It is ten times smaller. It is essentially reliant on America staying kind and peaceful
If a trade war really kicked off the US navy could blockade Canadian ports. What could Canada do about this? Absolutely nothing. No one is coming to rescue them
Canada is not going to shut off energy supplies to the USA because that would be like kicking a grizzly bear in the goolies and then hanging around to see what happens
Long before it reached that stage Canada wouid yield and do Trump’s bidding on energy supplies, because Canadians are neither suicidal nor stupid
Even my local tesco express was apparently doing an all items free offer this week, the cashier serving me was unimpressed (and ill put her down as 'Reform')
The ne'er-do-wells know that no one will stop them, the police won't show up, there's very little chance they'll get caught and if they're unlucky enough to actually get caught, they'll get told not to be naughty again and be on their merry way. Forget Iran getting nukes, if Starmer could stop this sort of thing, I'd vote Labour in the next election.
I have never experienced or seen this, fortunate to live in a part of the country where at the moment it is not accepted by anyone as a way of acting. But what would be, beyond hand waving and unicorns, Reform's way of tackling it which seriously distinguishes them from the status quo and is affordable?
TASER THEM
I bought a rib eye steak last night in the local Sainsbury's and paid at the self checkout. It was security tagged. There was a label saying so, which I missed. I have no idea how they do that. Anyway on leaving I set off the alarm. I returned. Deserving of a taser blast do you think? Admittedly it is not like I was clearing the shelves, but I suspect they would be in big trouble if they inadvertently taser innocent shoppers.
How do you think you should have been treated for all your illegal activities over the years? It is doubtful you would have ever been out of prison if you were treated like you want to treat others.
Having said all of that I do have sympathy for your reaction. I feel the same sometimes, then sense prevails.
No, you catch them, prosecute them, convict them - THEN taser them. Every day for a week. Don’t bother with prisons - they’re horribly expensive, cruel, and actively harmful
New methods of brisk painful corporal punishment
You call people Centrist Dad often, but really you are a Centrist Grandad. You want to go back to the 1950s all the time. Latest being corporal punishment? Really? What with your other views you really are like the 90+ year old one meets who talk about the good old days.
The thing about my suggestion is: it will work. It’s cheap, powerful, effective. And anyway, why is inflicting mental and social pain - prison - deemed acceptable, but inflicting physical pain is not?
It’s ludicrous. Prison is also expensive and breeds even harder criminals. So taser them. We’d sort this out in a weak
While bleating midwits like you just sigh and wring your hands about this, offer no solution, and nothing happens
It will work? Ever heard of the birch? Did that work?
Probably
Then I suggest you read the research.
Then I suggest you link the research.
Nope. I'm not going to link for every idiotic post @leon makes. It is not like it is difficult to find.
PS I have already linked to a number of posts directly contradicting his nonsense today. It doesn't make any difference. He still comes out with all this crap.
I have got on a looooooong train to Cornwall with a nice bottle of Cune Rioja, my trusty metal cup, and I’ve forgotten my bloody corkscrew
HELP
You can open a wine bottle with a shoe, place the bottle inside the shoe (heel against the bottle's base) and hit the shoe against a wall. The force of the impact against the wall, transferred through the shoe, helps push the cork out. Its can get quite messy though...
The other trick is you heat the air between the wine and the cork with a lighter.
After Covid , and Ukraine the world was hoping for less drama . Instead we got Trump again , Netenyahus genocide and now a possibility that things unravel further after the US got involved with Iran.
If the Straits of Hormuz are shut then oil prices will spike causing a further hit to growth and spiking inflation .
Trump seems to be actively working against the UK and yet the country is expected to roll out the red carpet for another state visit !
Iranian Parliament has voted to close it.
Final decision with Khamenei
The economic havoc it will wreak will be worth it to keep Bibi out of jail 👍
1. It’s the main route for Iranian oil exports - so it is economically self-harming even as the regime totters. Dangerous
2. It will antagonise every other country in the area. esp Gulf States, plus Saudi, etc
3. It won’t hurt America much. America doesn’t need gulf oil
Iran is impotent and defenceless right now
Because the price of gas is literally the only weapon anyone has which works on the USA.
But it’s much less of a weapon now America is energy self-sufficient. It will hurt other oil importing countries - Europe, China - a lot more
I'm afraid this is not correct.
America is self sufficient in theory, but in reality they import a massive amount of Canadian oil. Effectively, Canadian heavy oil comes into the US, while US light oil is exported to Europe.
So, why would the Canadians export their oil at less than market rates to the US? If oil prices spike, then America can either pay market rates, or they'll export it to China, Korea and Japan by tanker instead.
Because America will tell Canada what to do
It's not in the hands of the Canadian government. Energy companies are private companies beholden to their shareholders.
And one of Canada's largest - Husky Energy - is ultimately Chinese owned.
In normal times you might have a point. These are not normal times and Trump is not a normal president. He would bully Canada into submission
How did the US bullying Canada over tariffs work?
Do you think there are many votes in Canada for taking the knee to Trump?
Trump has just shown he is willing to go further than any president before. Directly bombing Iran
I can see him being fairly brutal with Canada and in the end Canada, being a tenth the size of the USA, would yield
The Canadian government is not going to legislate to nationalise the entire oil and gas industry in Canada to enable Trump to keep petrol prices low.
Just a few months ago, the Conservative Premier of Ontatio - Doug Ford - was threatening to turn the electricity supply off to Michigan over the Trump tariffs.
Trump can bluster and threaten all he wants, but countries and politicians have "face". The more you threaten, the less likely they are to acede to your wishes.
If Trump had wanted Canada onside, he would have been much better off being nice to them. Because right now, there are substantially fewer than zero votes in getting down and sucking Trump's cock.
Why are you so busily bayoneting a straw man?
I never said morally Trump *should* do this or that, nor did I dispute that it’s generally better to be nice than nasty. I’m just saying Trump is Sui generis and he’s proven he’s not TACO POTUS after all
If he wants to force Canada to its knees he can do it. And Canada would surrender
And that is simply incorrect.
Because Canada can turn off the pumping stations on Keystone, and can stop sending electricity to the US.
That would send petrol prices shooting up in the US, and cast much of northern Michigan into darkness.
The US is not the only country with agency.
76% of Canada’s exports go to the USA
17% of the USA’s exports go to Canada
A vast disparity. As we in Britain know, painfully, the larger entity in trade negotiations, let alone trade wars, has the upper hand and the weaker party usually has to yield
America is also much richer and militarily waaaay more powerful than Canada. A Canadian PM can act all plucky and wave the maple leaf but in the end if it’s a choice between total economic meltdown or agreeing to help America through a modest Hormuzian oil crisis - I’m pretty sure the Canadian premier would choose the latter
Trump could even frame it as a moral choice. Which side are you on? The west or the Islamists?
PBs idiot pontificates again. If America isn't invading Canada (I'm surprised you have accepted that in your madness. I thought you might want to nuke them) what is America going to do? If it is down to trade then yes America has the whip hand in buying Canadian goods, but if it forces Canada to then cuts off the oil, gas and electricity, what then? That is pretty much an instant effect. Then there is the Aluminium. That will bring American industry to s standstill pretty quickly.
You really are on a roll today Granddad.
It would never get that far because Canada would yield
We are now - sadly - in an era of naked power politics. All the old rules are falling away
The USA is a superpower with an enormous military and the world’s reserve currency. Canada is not these things. It is ten times smaller. It is essentially reliant on America staying kind and peaceful
If a trade war really kicked off the US navy could blockade Canadian ports. What could Canada do about this? Absolutely nothing. No one is coming to rescue them
Canada is not going to shut off energy supplies to the USA because that would be like kicking a grizzly bear in the goolies and then hanging around to see what happens
Long before it reached that stage Canada wouid yield and do Trump’s bidding on energy supplies, because Canadians are not suicidal nor stupid
This - fortunately - is very simple to settle with a little bet.
If Iran closes the Straits of Hormuz, will the price of US oil (i.e. denominated by the WTI index) move in lockstep with the price of international oil (i.e. Brent crude). I would count lockstep as being a move of at least 80% of the move in Brent.
After Covid , and Ukraine the world was hoping for less drama . Instead we got Trump again , Netenyahus genocide and now a possibility that things unravel further after the US got involved with Iran.
If the Straits of Hormuz are shut then oil prices will spike causing a further hit to growth and spiking inflation .
Trump seems to be actively working against the UK and yet the country is expected to roll out the red carpet for another state visit !
Iranian Parliament has voted to close it.
Final decision with Khamenei
The economic havoc it will wreak will be worth it to keep Bibi out of jail 👍
1. It’s the main route for Iranian oil exports - so it is economically self-harming even as the regime totters. Dangerous
2. It will antagonise every other country in the area. esp Gulf States, plus Saudi, etc
3. It won’t hurt America much. America doesn’t need gulf oil
Iran is impotent and defenceless right now
Because the price of gas is literally the only weapon anyone has which works on the USA.
But it’s much less of a weapon now America is energy self-sufficient. It will hurt other oil importing countries - Europe, China - a lot more
I'm afraid this is not correct.
America is self sufficient in theory, but in reality they import a massive amount of Canadian oil. Effectively, Canadian heavy oil comes into the US, while US light oil is exported to Europe.
So, why would the Canadians export their oil at less than market rates to the US? If oil prices spike, then America can either pay market rates, or they'll export it to China, Korea and Japan by tanker instead.
Because America will tell Canada what to do
It's not in the hands of the Canadian government. Energy companies are private companies beholden to their shareholders.
And one of Canada's largest - Husky Energy - is ultimately Chinese owned.
In normal times you might have a point. These are not normal times and Trump is not a normal president. He would bully Canada into submission
How did the US bullying Canada over tariffs work?
Do you think there are many votes in Canada for taking the knee to Trump?
Trump has just shown he is willing to go further than any president before. Directly bombing Iran
I can see him being fairly brutal with Canada and in the end Canada, being a tenth the size of the USA, would yield
The Canadian government is not going to legislate to nationalise the entire oil and gas industry in Canada to enable Trump to keep petrol prices low.
Just a few months ago, the Conservative Premier of Ontatio - Doug Ford - was threatening to turn the electricity supply off to Michigan over the Trump tariffs.
Trump can bluster and threaten all he wants, but countries and politicians have "face". The more you threaten, the less likely they are to acede to your wishes.
If Trump had wanted Canada onside, he would have been much better off being nice to them. Because right now, there are substantially fewer than zero votes in getting down and sucking Trump's cock.
Why are you so busily bayoneting a straw man?
I never said morally Trump *should* do this or that, nor did I dispute that it’s generally better to be nice than nasty. I’m just saying Trump is Sui generis and he’s proven he’s not TACO POTUS after all
If he wants to force Canada to its knees he can do it. And Canada would surrender
And that is simply incorrect.
Because Canada can turn off the pumping stations on Keystone, and can stop sending electricity to the US.
That would send petrol prices shooting up in the US, and cast much of northern Michigan into darkness.
The US is not the only country with agency.
76% of Canada’s exports go to the USA
17% of the USA’s exports go to Canada
A vast disparity. As we in Britain know, painfully, the larger entity in trade negotiations, let alone trade wars, has the upper hand and the weaker party usually has to yield
America is also much richer and militarily waaaay more powerful than Canada. A Canadian PM can act all plucky and wave the maple leaf but in the end if it’s a choice between total economic meltdown or agreeing to help America through a modest Hormuzian oil crisis - I’m pretty sure the Canadian premier would choose the latter
Trump could even frame it as a moral choice. Which side are you on? The west or the Islamists?
PBs idiot pontificates again. If America isn't invading Canada (I'm surprised you have accepted that in your madness. I thought you might want to nuke them) what is America going to do? If it is down to trade then yes America has the whip hand in buying Canadian goods, but if it forces Canada to then cuts off the oil, gas and electricity, what then? That is pretty much an instant effect. Then there is the Aluminium. That will bring American industry to s standstill pretty quickly.
You really are on a roll today Granddad.
It would never get that far because Canada would yield
We are now - sadly - in an era of naked power politics. All the old rules are falling away
The USA is a superpower with an enormous military and the world’s reserve currency. Canada is not these things. It is ten times smaller. It is essentially reliant on America staying kind and peaceful
If a trade war really kicked off the US navy could blockade Canadian ports. What could Canada do about this? Absolutely nothing. No one is coming to rescue them
Canada is not going to shut off energy supplies to the USA because that would be like kicking a grizzly bear in the goolies and then hanging around to see what happens
Long before it reached that stage Canada wouid yield and do Trump’s bidding on energy supplies, because Canadians are not suicidal nor stupid
Nothing to stop Canada quietly selling stuff to other countries who are more reliable than Trump's US. I expect that's what's happening.
After Covid , and Ukraine the world was hoping for less drama . Instead we got Trump again , Netenyahus genocide and now a possibility that things unravel further after the US got involved with Iran.
If the Straits of Hormuz are shut then oil prices will spike causing a further hit to growth and spiking inflation .
Trump seems to be actively working against the UK and yet the country is expected to roll out the red carpet for another state visit !
Iranian Parliament has voted to close it.
Final decision with Khamenei
The economic havoc it will wreak will be worth it to keep Bibi out of jail 👍
1. It’s the main route for Iranian oil exports - so it is economically self-harming even as the regime totters. Dangerous
2. It will antagonise every other country in the area. esp Gulf States, plus Saudi, etc
3. It won’t hurt America much. America doesn’t need gulf oil
Iran is impotent and defenceless right now
Because the price of gas is literally the only weapon anyone has which works on the USA.
But it’s much less of a weapon now America is energy self-sufficient. It will hurt other oil importing countries - Europe, China - a lot more
I'm afraid this is not correct.
America is self sufficient in theory, but in reality they import a massive amount of Canadian oil. Effectively, Canadian heavy oil comes into the US, while US light oil is exported to Europe.
So, why would the Canadians export their oil at less than market rates to the US? If oil prices spike, then America can either pay market rates, or they'll export it to China, Korea and Japan by tanker instead.
Because America will tell Canada what to do
It's not in the hands of the Canadian government. Energy companies are private companies beholden to their shareholders.
And one of Canada's largest - Husky Energy - is ultimately Chinese owned.
In normal times you might have a point. These are not normal times and Trump is not a normal president. He would bully Canada into submission
How did the US bullying Canada over tariffs work?
Do you think there are many votes in Canada for taking the knee to Trump?
Trump has just shown he is willing to go further than any president before. Directly bombing Iran
I can see him being fairly brutal with Canada and in the end Canada, being a tenth the size of the USA, would yield
The Canadian government is not going to legislate to nationalise the entire oil and gas industry in Canada to enable Trump to keep petrol prices low.
Just a few months ago, the Conservative Premier of Ontatio - Doug Ford - was threatening to turn the electricity supply off to Michigan over the Trump tariffs.
Trump can bluster and threaten all he wants, but countries and politicians have "face". The more you threaten, the less likely they are to acede to your wishes.
If Trump had wanted Canada onside, he would have been much better off being nice to them. Because right now, there are substantially fewer than zero votes in getting down and sucking Trump's cock.
Why are you so busily bayoneting a straw man?
I never said morally Trump *should* do this or that, nor did I dispute that it’s generally better to be nice than nasty. I’m just saying Trump is Sui generis and he’s proven he’s not TACO POTUS after all
If he wants to force Canada to its knees he can do it. And Canada would surrender
And that is simply incorrect.
Because Canada can turn off the pumping stations on Keystone, and can stop sending electricity to the US.
That would send petrol prices shooting up in the US, and cast much of northern Michigan into darkness.
The US is not the only country with agency.
76% of Canada’s exports go to the USA
17% of the USA’s exports go to Canada
A vast disparity. As we in Britain know, painfully, the larger entity in trade negotiations, let alone trade wars, has the upper hand and the weaker party usually has to yield
America is also much richer and militarily waaaay more powerful than Canada. A Canadian PM can act all plucky and wave the maple leaf but in the end if it’s a choice between total economic meltdown or agreeing to help America through a modest Hormuzian oil crisis - I’m pretty sure the Canadian premier would choose the latter
Trump could even frame it as a moral choice. Which side are you on? The west or the Islamists?
PBs idiot pontificates again. If America isn't invading Canada (I'm surprised you have accepted that in your madness. I thought you might want to nuke them) what is America going to do? If it is down to trade then yes America has the whip hand in buying Canadian goods, but if it forces Canada to then cuts off the oil, gas and electricity, what then? That is pretty much an instant effect. Then there is the Aluminium. That will bring American industry to s standstill pretty quickly.
You really are on a roll today Granddad.
It would never get that far because Canada would yield
We are now - sadly - in an era of naked power politics. All the old rules are falling away
The USA is a superpower with an enormous military and the world’s reserve currency. Canada is not these things. It is ten times smaller. It is essentially reliant on America staying kind and peaceful
If a trade war really kicked off the US navy could blockade Canadian ports. What could Canada do about this? Absolutely nothing. No one is coming to rescue them
Canada is not going to shut off energy supplies to the USA because that would be like kicking a grizzly bear in the goolies and then hanging around to see what happens
Long before it reached that stage Canada wouid yield and do Trump’s bidding on energy supplies, because Canadians are not suicidal nor stupid
This - fortunately - is very simple to settle with a little bet.
If Iran closes the Straits of Hormuz, will the price of US oil (i.e. denominated by the WTI index) move in lockstep with the price of international oil (i.e. Brent crude). I would count lockstep as being a move of at least 80% of the move in Brent.
£50?
But we need a time scale. There would certainly be an immediate jump worldwide. Oil prices are volatile and sensitive
I have got on a looooooong train to Cornwall with a nice bottle of Cune Rioja, my trusty metal cup, and I’ve forgotten my bloody corkscrew
HELP
You can open a wine bottle with a shoe, place the bottle inside the shoe (heel against the bottle's base) and hit the shoe against a wall. The force of the impact against the wall, transferred through the shoe, helps push the cork out. Its can get quite messy though...
The other trick is you heat the air between the wine and the cork with a lighter.
I want to believe you have made that up just to see if he will do it.
After Covid , and Ukraine the world was hoping for less drama . Instead we got Trump again , Netenyahus genocide and now a possibility that things unravel further after the US got involved with Iran.
If the Straits of Hormuz are shut then oil prices will spike causing a further hit to growth and spiking inflation .
Trump seems to be actively working against the UK and yet the country is expected to roll out the red carpet for another state visit !
Iranian Parliament has voted to close it.
Final decision with Khamenei
The economic havoc it will wreak will be worth it to keep Bibi out of jail 👍
1. It’s the main route for Iranian oil exports - so it is economically self-harming even as the regime totters. Dangerous
2. It will antagonise every other country in the area. esp Gulf States, plus Saudi, etc
3. It won’t hurt America much. America doesn’t need gulf oil
Iran is impotent and defenceless right now
Because the price of gas is literally the only weapon anyone has which works on the USA.
But it’s much less of a weapon now America is energy self-sufficient. It will hurt other oil importing countries - Europe, China - a lot more
I'm afraid this is not correct.
America is self sufficient in theory, but in reality they import a massive amount of Canadian oil. Effectively, Canadian heavy oil comes into the US, while US light oil is exported to Europe.
So, why would the Canadians export their oil at less than market rates to the US? If oil prices spike, then America can either pay market rates, or they'll export it to China, Korea and Japan by tanker instead.
Because America will tell Canada what to do
It's not in the hands of the Canadian government. Energy companies are private companies beholden to their shareholders.
And one of Canada's largest - Husky Energy - is ultimately Chinese owned.
In normal times you might have a point. These are not normal times and Trump is not a normal president. He would bully Canada into submission
How did the US bullying Canada over tariffs work?
Do you think there are many votes in Canada for taking the knee to Trump?
Trump has just shown he is willing to go further than any president before. Directly bombing Iran
I can see him being fairly brutal with Canada and in the end Canada, being a tenth the size of the USA, would yield
The Canadian government is not going to legislate to nationalise the entire oil and gas industry in Canada to enable Trump to keep petrol prices low.
Just a few months ago, the Conservative Premier of Ontatio - Doug Ford - was threatening to turn the electricity supply off to Michigan over the Trump tariffs.
Trump can bluster and threaten all he wants, but countries and politicians have "face". The more you threaten, the less likely they are to acede to your wishes.
If Trump had wanted Canada onside, he would have been much better off being nice to them. Because right now, there are substantially fewer than zero votes in getting down and sucking Trump's cock.
Why are you so busily bayoneting a straw man?
I never said morally Trump *should* do this or that, nor did I dispute that it’s generally better to be nice than nasty. I’m just saying Trump is Sui generis and he’s proven he’s not TACO POTUS after all
If he wants to force Canada to its knees he can do it. And Canada would surrender
And that is simply incorrect.
Because Canada can turn off the pumping stations on Keystone, and can stop sending electricity to the US.
That would send petrol prices shooting up in the US, and cast much of northern Michigan into darkness.
The US is not the only country with agency.
76% of Canada’s exports go to the USA
17% of the USA’s exports go to Canada
A vast disparity. As we in Britain know, painfully, the larger entity in trade negotiations, let alone trade wars, has the upper hand and the weaker party usually has to yield
America is also much richer and militarily waaaay more powerful than Canada. A Canadian PM can act all plucky and wave the maple leaf but in the end if it’s a choice between total economic meltdown or agreeing to help America through a modest Hormuzian oil crisis - I’m pretty sure the Canadian premier would choose the latter
Trump could even frame it as a moral choice. Which side are you on? The west or the Islamists?
PBs idiot pontificates again. If America isn't invading Canada (I'm surprised you have accepted that in your madness. I thought you might want to nuke them) what is America going to do? If it is down to trade then yes America has the whip hand in buying Canadian goods, but if it forces Canada to then cuts off the oil, gas and electricity, what then? That is pretty much an instant effect. Then there is the Aluminium. That will bring American industry to s standstill pretty quickly.
You really are on a roll today Granddad.
It would never get that far because Canada would yield
We are now - sadly - in an era of naked power politics. All the old rules are falling away
The USA is a superpower with an enormous military and the world’s reserve currency. Canada is not these things. It is ten times smaller. It is essentially reliant on America staying kind and peaceful
If a trade war really kicked off the US navy could blockade Canadian ports. What could Canada do about this? Absolutely nothing. No one is coming to rescue them
Canada is not going to shut off energy supplies to the USA because that would be like kicking a grizzly bear in the goolies and then hanging around to see what happens
Long before it reached that stage Canada wouid yield and do Trump’s bidding on energy supplies, because Canadians are not suicidal nor stupid
This - fortunately - is very simple to settle with a little bet.
If Iran closes the Straits of Hormuz, will the price of US oil (i.e. denominated by the WTI index) move in lockstep with the price of international oil (i.e. Brent crude). I would count lockstep as being a move of at least 80% of the move in Brent.
£50?
But we need a time scale. There would certainly be an immediate jump worldwide. Oil prices are volatile and sensitive
But a year after the straits closure?
I think you can chill your beans with that sort of timescale. A Hormuz supply shock would likely be short and sharp, if they go ahead with it then there will be a coalition of the willing to destroy the regime and reopen the strait. A closure might not last long at all.
After Covid , and Ukraine the world was hoping for less drama . Instead we got Trump again , Netenyahus genocide and now a possibility that things unravel further after the US got involved with Iran.
If the Straits of Hormuz are shut then oil prices will spike causing a further hit to growth and spiking inflation .
Trump seems to be actively working against the UK and yet the country is expected to roll out the red carpet for another state visit !
Iranian Parliament has voted to close it.
Final decision with Khamenei
The economic havoc it will wreak will be worth it to keep Bibi out of jail 👍
1. It’s the main route for Iranian oil exports - so it is economically self-harming even as the regime totters. Dangerous
2. It will antagonise every other country in the area. esp Gulf States, plus Saudi, etc
3. It won’t hurt America much. America doesn’t need gulf oil
Iran is impotent and defenceless right now
Because the price of gas is literally the only weapon anyone has which works on the USA.
But it’s much less of a weapon now America is energy self-sufficient. It will hurt other oil importing countries - Europe, China - a lot more
I'm afraid this is not correct.
America is self sufficient in theory, but in reality they import a massive amount of Canadian oil. Effectively, Canadian heavy oil comes into the US, while US light oil is exported to Europe.
So, why would the Canadians export their oil at less than market rates to the US? If oil prices spike, then America can either pay market rates, or they'll export it to China, Korea and Japan by tanker instead.
Because America will tell Canada what to do
It's not in the hands of the Canadian government. Energy companies are private companies beholden to their shareholders.
And one of Canada's largest - Husky Energy - is ultimately Chinese owned.
In normal times you might have a point. These are not normal times and Trump is not a normal president. He would bully Canada into submission
How did the US bullying Canada over tariffs work?
Do you think there are many votes in Canada for taking the knee to Trump?
Trump has just shown he is willing to go further than any president before. Directly bombing Iran
I can see him being fairly brutal with Canada and in the end Canada, being a tenth the size of the USA, would yield
The Canadian government is not going to legislate to nationalise the entire oil and gas industry in Canada to enable Trump to keep petrol prices low.
Just a few months ago, the Conservative Premier of Ontatio - Doug Ford - was threatening to turn the electricity supply off to Michigan over the Trump tariffs.
Trump can bluster and threaten all he wants, but countries and politicians have "face". The more you threaten, the less likely they are to acede to your wishes.
If Trump had wanted Canada onside, he would have been much better off being nice to them. Because right now, there are substantially fewer than zero votes in getting down and sucking Trump's cock.
Why are you so busily bayoneting a straw man?
I never said morally Trump *should* do this or that, nor did I dispute that it’s generally better to be nice than nasty. I’m just saying Trump is Sui generis and he’s proven he’s not TACO POTUS after all
If he wants to force Canada to its knees he can do it. And Canada would surrender
And that is simply incorrect.
Because Canada can turn off the pumping stations on Keystone, and can stop sending electricity to the US.
That would send petrol prices shooting up in the US, and cast much of northern Michigan into darkness.
The US is not the only country with agency.
76% of Canada’s exports go to the USA
17% of the USA’s exports go to Canada
A vast disparity. As we in Britain know, painfully, the larger entity in trade negotiations, let alone trade wars, has the upper hand and the weaker party usually has to yield
America is also much richer and militarily waaaay more powerful than Canada. A Canadian PM can act all plucky and wave the maple leaf but in the end if it’s a choice between total economic meltdown or agreeing to help America through a modest Hormuzian oil crisis - I’m pretty sure the Canadian premier would choose the latter
Trump could even frame it as a moral choice. Which side are you on? The west or the Islamists?
PBs idiot pontificates again. If America isn't invading Canada (I'm surprised you have accepted that in your madness. I thought you might want to nuke them) what is America going to do? If it is down to trade then yes America has the whip hand in buying Canadian goods, but if it forces Canada to then cuts off the oil, gas and electricity, what then? That is pretty much an instant effect. Then there is the Aluminium. That will bring American industry to s standstill pretty quickly.
You really are on a roll today Granddad.
It would never get that far because Canada would yield
We are now - sadly - in an era of naked power politics. All the old rules are falling away
The USA is a superpower with an enormous military and the world’s reserve currency. Canada is not these things. It is ten times smaller. It is essentially reliant on America staying kind and peaceful
If a trade war really kicked off the US navy could blockade Canadian ports. What could Canada do about this? Absolutely nothing. No one is coming to rescue them
Canada is not going to shut off energy supplies to the USA because that would be like kicking a grizzly bear in the goolies and then hanging around to see what happens
Long before it reached that stage Canada wouid yield and do Trump’s bidding on energy supplies, because Canadians are not suicidal nor stupid
Nothing to stop Canada quietly selling stuff to other countries who are more reliable than Trump's US. I expect that's what's happening.
After Covid , and Ukraine the world was hoping for less drama . Instead we got Trump again , Netenyahus genocide and now a possibility that things unravel further after the US got involved with Iran.
If the Straits of Hormuz are shut then oil prices will spike causing a further hit to growth and spiking inflation .
Trump seems to be actively working against the UK and yet the country is expected to roll out the red carpet for another state visit !
Iranian Parliament has voted to close it.
Final decision with Khamenei
The economic havoc it will wreak will be worth it to keep Bibi out of jail 👍
1. It’s the main route for Iranian oil exports - so it is economically self-harming even as the regime totters. Dangerous
2. It will antagonise every other country in the area. esp Gulf States, plus Saudi, etc
3. It won’t hurt America much. America doesn’t need gulf oil
Iran is impotent and defenceless right now
Because the price of gas is literally the only weapon anyone has which works on the USA.
But it’s much less of a weapon now America is energy self-sufficient. It will hurt other oil importing countries - Europe, China - a lot more
I'm afraid this is not correct.
America is self sufficient in theory, but in reality they import a massive amount of Canadian oil. Effectively, Canadian heavy oil comes into the US, while US light oil is exported to Europe.
So, why would the Canadians export their oil at less than market rates to the US? If oil prices spike, then America can either pay market rates, or they'll export it to China, Korea and Japan by tanker instead.
After Covid , and Ukraine the world was hoping for less drama . Instead we got Trump again , Netenyahus genocide and now a possibility that things unravel further after the US got involved with Iran.
If the Straits of Hormuz are shut then oil prices will spike causing a further hit to growth and spiking inflation .
Trump seems to be actively working against the UK and yet the country is expected to roll out the red carpet for another state visit !
Iranian Parliament has voted to close it.
Final decision with Khamenei
The economic havoc it will wreak will be worth it to keep Bibi out of jail 👍
1. It’s the main route for Iranian oil exports - so it is economically self-harming even as the regime totters. Dangerous
2. It will antagonise every other country in the area. esp Gulf States, plus Saudi, etc
3. It won’t hurt America much. America doesn’t need gulf oil
Iran is impotent and defenceless right now
Because the price of gas is literally the only weapon anyone has which works on the USA.
But it’s much less of a weapon now America is energy self-sufficient. It will hurt other oil importing countries - Europe, China - a lot more
I'm afraid this is not correct.
America is self sufficient in theory, but in reality they import a massive amount of Canadian oil. Effectively, Canadian heavy oil comes into the US, while US light oil is exported to Europe.
So, why would the Canadians export their oil at less than market rates to the US? If oil prices spike, then America can either pay market rates, or they'll export it to China, Korea and Japan by tanker instead.
Because America will tell Canada what to do
It's not in the hands of the Canadian government. Energy companies are private companies beholden to their shareholders.
And one of Canada's largest - Husky Energy - is ultimately Chinese owned.
In normal times you might have a point. These are not normal times and Trump is not a normal president. He would bully Canada into submission
How did the US bullying Canada over tariffs work?
Do you think there are many votes in Canada for taking the knee to Trump?
Trump has just shown he is willing to go further than any president before. Directly bombing Iran
I can see him being fairly brutal with Canada and in the end Canada, being a tenth the size of the USA, would yield
The Canadian government is not going to legislate to nationalise the entire oil and gas industry in Canada to enable Trump to keep petrol prices low.
Just a few months ago, the Conservative Premier of Ontatio - Doug Ford - was threatening to turn the electricity supply off to Michigan over the Trump tariffs.
Trump can bluster and threaten all he wants, but countries and politicians have "face". The more you threaten, the less likely they are to acede to your wishes.
If Trump had wanted Canada onside, he would have been much better off being nice to them. Because right now, there are substantially fewer than zero votes in getting down and sucking Trump's cock.
Why are you so busily bayoneting a straw man?
I never said morally Trump *should* do this or that, nor did I dispute that it’s generally better to be nice than nasty. I’m just saying Trump is Sui generis and he’s proven he’s not TACO POTUS after all
If he wants to force Canada to its knees he can do it. And Canada would surrender
And that is simply incorrect.
Because Canada can turn off the pumping stations on Keystone, and can stop sending electricity to the US.
That would send petrol prices shooting up in the US, and cast much of northern Michigan into darkness.
The US is not the only country with agency.
76% of Canada’s exports go to the USA
17% of the USA’s exports go to Canada
A vast disparity. As we in Britain know, painfully, the larger entity in trade negotiations, let alone trade wars, has the upper hand and the weaker party usually has to yield
America is also much richer and militarily waaaay more powerful than Canada. A Canadian PM can act all plucky and wave the maple leaf but in the end if it’s a choice between total economic meltdown or agreeing to help America through a modest Hormuzian oil crisis - I’m pretty sure the Canadian premier would choose the latter
Trump could even frame it as a moral choice. Which side are you on? The west or the Islamists?
PBs idiot pontificates again. If America isn't invading Canada (I'm surprised you have accepted that in your madness. I thought you might want to nuke them) what is America going to do? If it is down to trade then yes America has the whip hand in buying Canadian goods, but if it forces Canada to then cuts off the oil, gas and electricity, what then? That is pretty much an instant effect. Then there is the Aluminium. That will bring American industry to s standstill pretty quickly.
You really are on a roll today Granddad.
It would never get that far because Canada would yield
We are now - sadly - in an era of naked power politics. All the old rules are falling away
The USA is a superpower with an enormous military and the world’s reserve currency. Canada is not these things. It is ten times smaller. It is essentially reliant on America staying kind and peaceful
If a trade war really kicked off the US navy could blockade Canadian ports. What could Canada do about this? Absolutely nothing. No one is coming to rescue them
Canada is not going to shut off energy supplies to the USA because that would be like kicking a grizzly bear in the goolies and then hanging around to see what happens
Long before it reached that stage Canada wouid yield and do Trump’s bidding on energy supplies, because Canadians are not suicidal nor stupid
This - fortunately - is very simple to settle with a little bet.
If Iran closes the Straits of Hormuz, will the price of US oil (i.e. denominated by the WTI index) move in lockstep with the price of international oil (i.e. Brent crude). I would count lockstep as being a move of at least 80% of the move in Brent.
£50?
But we need a time scale. There would certainly be an immediate jump worldwide. Oil prices are volatile and sensitive
But a year after the straits closure?
I think you can chill your beans with that sort of timescale. A Hormuz supply shock would likely be short and sharp, if they go ahead with it then there will be a coalition of the willing to destroy the regime and reopen the strait. A closure might not last long at all.
Yes I agree
So there’s no way that @rcs1000’s bet can be sensibly framed. Unless he can think of some means of taking all these variables into account
I have got on a looooooong train to Cornwall with a nice bottle of Cune Rioja, my trusty metal cup, and I’ve forgotten my bloody corkscrew
HELP
You can open a wine bottle with a shoe, place the bottle inside the shoe (heel against the bottle's base) and hit the shoe against a wall. The force of the impact against the wall, transferred through the shoe, helps push the cork out. Its can get quite messy though...
The other trick is you heat the air between the wine and the cork with a lighter.
I have got on a looooooong train to Cornwall with a nice bottle of Cune Rioja, my trusty metal cup, and I’ve forgotten my bloody corkscrew
HELP
You can open a wine bottle with a shoe, place the bottle inside the shoe (heel against the bottle's base) and hit the shoe against a wall. The force of the impact against the wall, transferred through the shoe, helps push the cork out. Its can get quite messy though...
The other trick is you heat the air between the wine and the cork with a lighter.
I want to believe you have made that up just to see if he will do it.
I have got on a looooooong train to Cornwall with a nice bottle of Cune Rioja, my trusty metal cup, and I’ve forgotten my bloody corkscrew
HELP
You can open a wine bottle with a shoe, place the bottle inside the shoe (heel against the bottle's base) and hit the shoe against a wall. The force of the impact against the wall, transferred through the shoe, helps push the cork out. Its can get quite messy though...
The other trick is you heat the air between the wine and the cork with a lighter.
Even my local tesco express was apparently doing an all items free offer this week, the cashier serving me was unimpressed (and ill put her down as 'Reform')
The ne'er-do-wells know that no one will stop them, the police won't show up, there's very little chance they'll get caught and if they're unlucky enough to actually get caught, they'll get told not to be naughty again and be on their merry way. Forget Iran getting nukes, if Starmer could stop this sort of thing, I'd vote Labour in the next election.
I have never experienced or seen this, fortunate to live in a part of the country where at the moment it is not accepted by anyone as a way of acting. But what would be, beyond hand waving and unicorns, Reform's way of tackling it which seriously distinguishes them from the status quo and is affordable?
TASER THEM
I bought a rib eye steak last night in the local Sainsbury's and paid at the self checkout. It was security tagged. There was a label saying so, which I missed. I have no idea how they do that. Anyway on leaving I set off the alarm. I returned. Deserving of a taser blast do you think? Admittedly it is not like I was clearing the shelves, but I suspect they would be in big trouble if they inadvertently taser innocent shoppers.
How do you think you should have been treated for all your illegal activities over the years? It is doubtful you would have ever been out of prison if you were treated like you want to treat others.
Having said all of that I do have sympathy for your reaction. I feel the same sometimes, then sense prevails.
No, you catch them, prosecute them, convict them - THEN taser them. Every day for a week. Don’t bother with prisons - they’re horribly expensive, cruel, and actively harmful
New methods of brisk painful corporal punishment
You call people Centrist Dad often, but really you are a Centrist Grandad. You want to go back to the 1950s all the time. Latest being corporal punishment? Really? What with your other views you really are like the 90+ year old one meets who talk about the good old days.
The thing about my suggestion is: it will work. It’s cheap, powerful, effective. And anyway, why is inflicting mental and social pain - prison - deemed acceptable, but inflicting physical pain is not?
It’s ludicrous. Prison is also expensive and breeds even harder criminals. So taser them. We’d sort this out in a weak
While bleating midwits like you just sigh and wring your hands about this, offer no solution, and nothing happens
It will work? Ever heard of the birch? Did that work?
Probably
Then I suggest you read the research.
Then I suggest you link the research.
Nope. I'm not going to link for every idiotic post @leon makes. It is not like it is difficult to find.
PS I have already linked to a number of posts directly contradicting his nonsense today. It doesn't make any difference. He still comes out with all this crap.
No doubt he finds it highly amusing that so few people here can resist continually rising to the bait.
After Covid , and Ukraine the world was hoping for less drama . Instead we got Trump again , Netenyahus genocide and now a possibility that things unravel further after the US got involved with Iran.
If the Straits of Hormuz are shut then oil prices will spike causing a further hit to growth and spiking inflation .
Trump seems to be actively working against the UK and yet the country is expected to roll out the red carpet for another state visit !
Iranian Parliament has voted to close it.
Final decision with Khamenei
The economic havoc it will wreak will be worth it to keep Bibi out of jail 👍
1. It’s the main route for Iranian oil exports - so it is economically self-harming even as the regime totters. Dangerous
2. It will antagonise every other country in the area. esp Gulf States, plus Saudi, etc
3. It won’t hurt America much. America doesn’t need gulf oil
Iran is impotent and defenceless right now
Because the price of gas is literally the only weapon anyone has which works on the USA.
But it’s much less of a weapon now America is energy self-sufficient. It will hurt other oil importing countries - Europe, China - a lot more
I'm afraid this is not correct.
America is self sufficient in theory, but in reality they import a massive amount of Canadian oil. Effectively, Canadian heavy oil comes into the US, while US light oil is exported to Europe.
So, why would the Canadians export their oil at less than market rates to the US? If oil prices spike, then America can either pay market rates, or they'll export it to China, Korea and Japan by tanker instead.
Because America will tell Canada what to do
It's not in the hands of the Canadian government. Energy companies are private companies beholden to their shareholders.
And one of Canada's largest - Husky Energy - is ultimately Chinese owned.
In normal times you might have a point. These are not normal times and Trump is not a normal president. He would bully Canada into submission
How did the US bullying Canada over tariffs work?
Do you think there are many votes in Canada for taking the knee to Trump?
Trump has just shown he is willing to go further than any president before. Directly bombing Iran
I can see him being fairly brutal with Canada and in the end Canada, being a tenth the size of the USA, would yield
The Canadian government is not going to legislate to nationalise the entire oil and gas industry in Canada to enable Trump to keep petrol prices low.
Just a few months ago, the Conservative Premier of Ontatio - Doug Ford - was threatening to turn the electricity supply off to Michigan over the Trump tariffs.
Trump can bluster and threaten all he wants, but countries and politicians have "face". The more you threaten, the less likely they are to acede to your wishes.
If Trump had wanted Canada onside, he would have been much better off being nice to them. Because right now, there are substantially fewer than zero votes in getting down and sucking Trump's cock.
Why are you so busily bayoneting a straw man?
I never said morally Trump *should* do this or that, nor did I dispute that it’s generally better to be nice than nasty. I’m just saying Trump is Sui generis and he’s proven he’s not TACO POTUS after all
If he wants to force Canada to its knees he can do it. And Canada would surrender
And that is simply incorrect.
Because Canada can turn off the pumping stations on Keystone, and can stop sending electricity to the US.
That would send petrol prices shooting up in the US, and cast much of northern Michigan into darkness.
The US is not the only country with agency.
76% of Canada’s exports go to the USA
17% of the USA’s exports go to Canada
A vast disparity. As we in Britain know, painfully, the larger entity in trade negotiations, let alone trade wars, has the upper hand and the weaker party usually has to yield
America is also much richer and militarily waaaay more powerful than Canada. A Canadian PM can act all plucky and wave the maple leaf but in the end if it’s a choice between total economic meltdown or agreeing to help America through a modest Hormuzian oil crisis - I’m pretty sure the Canadian premier would choose the latter
Trump could even frame it as a moral choice. Which side are you on? The west or the Islamists?
PBs idiot pontificates again. If America isn't invading Canada (I'm surprised you have accepted that in your madness. I thought you might want to nuke them) what is America going to do? If it is down to trade then yes America has the whip hand in buying Canadian goods, but if it forces Canada to then cuts off the oil, gas and electricity, what then? That is pretty much an instant effect. Then there is the Aluminium. That will bring American industry to s standstill pretty quickly.
You really are on a roll today Granddad.
It would never get that far because Canada would yield
We are now - sadly - in an era of naked power politics. All the old rules are falling away
The USA is a superpower with an enormous military and the world’s reserve currency. Canada is not these things. It is ten times smaller. It is essentially reliant on America staying kind and peaceful
If a trade war really kicked off the US navy could blockade Canadian ports. What could Canada do about this? Absolutely nothing. No one is coming to rescue them
Canada is not going to shut off energy supplies to the USA because that would be like kicking a grizzly bear in the goolies and then hanging around to see what happens
Long before it reached that stage Canada wouid yield and do Trump’s bidding on energy supplies, because Canadians are neither suicidal nor stupid
This blockade of ports you talk of. When a British, French, Spanish, Australian, Japanese, etc, etc merchant ship comes along what are these American frigates/destroyers/submarines going to do exactly?
Just wondering.
You have spaghetti for brains.
PS Are the Americans going to blockade the skies as well? Just curious.
After Covid , and Ukraine the world was hoping for less drama . Instead we got Trump again , Netenyahus genocide and now a possibility that things unravel further after the US got involved with Iran.
If the Straits of Hormuz are shut then oil prices will spike causing a further hit to growth and spiking inflation .
Trump seems to be actively working against the UK and yet the country is expected to roll out the red carpet for another state visit !
Iranian Parliament has voted to close it.
Final decision with Khamenei
The economic havoc it will wreak will be worth it to keep Bibi out of jail 👍
1. It’s the main route for Iranian oil exports - so it is economically self-harming even as the regime totters. Dangerous
2. It will antagonise every other country in the area. esp Gulf States, plus Saudi, etc
3. It won’t hurt America much. America doesn’t need gulf oil
Iran is impotent and defenceless right now
Because the price of gas is literally the only weapon anyone has which works on the USA.
But it’s much less of a weapon now America is energy self-sufficient. It will hurt other oil importing countries - Europe, China - a lot more
I'm afraid this is not correct.
America is self sufficient in theory, but in reality they import a massive amount of Canadian oil. Effectively, Canadian heavy oil comes into the US, while US light oil is exported to Europe.
So, why would the Canadians export their oil at less than market rates to the US? If oil prices spike, then America can either pay market rates, or they'll export it to China, Korea and Japan by tanker instead.
Because America will tell Canada what to do
It's not in the hands of the Canadian government. Energy companies are private companies beholden to their shareholders.
And one of Canada's largest - Husky Energy - is ultimately Chinese owned.
In normal times you might have a point. These are not normal times and Trump is not a normal president. He would bully Canada into submission
How did the US bullying Canada over tariffs work?
Do you think there are many votes in Canada for taking the knee to Trump?
Trump has just shown he is willing to go further than any president before. Directly bombing Iran
I can see him being fairly brutal with Canada and in the end Canada, being a tenth the size of the USA, would yield
The Canadian government is not going to legislate to nationalise the entire oil and gas industry in Canada to enable Trump to keep petrol prices low.
Just a few months ago, the Conservative Premier of Ontatio - Doug Ford - was threatening to turn the electricity supply off to Michigan over the Trump tariffs.
Trump can bluster and threaten all he wants, but countries and politicians have "face". The more you threaten, the less likely they are to acede to your wishes.
If Trump had wanted Canada onside, he would have been much better off being nice to them. Because right now, there are substantially fewer than zero votes in getting down and sucking Trump's cock.
Why are you so busily bayoneting a straw man?
I never said morally Trump *should* do this or that, nor did I dispute that it’s generally better to be nice than nasty. I’m just saying Trump is Sui generis and he’s proven he’s not TACO POTUS after all
If he wants to force Canada to its knees he can do it. And Canada would surrender
And that is simply incorrect.
Because Canada can turn off the pumping stations on Keystone, and can stop sending electricity to the US.
That would send petrol prices shooting up in the US, and cast much of northern Michigan into darkness.
The US is not the only country with agency.
76% of Canada’s exports go to the USA
17% of the USA’s exports go to Canada
A vast disparity. As we in Britain know, painfully, the larger entity in trade negotiations, let alone trade wars, has the upper hand and the weaker party usually has to yield
America is also much richer and militarily waaaay more powerful than Canada. A Canadian PM can act all plucky and wave the maple leaf but in the end if it’s a choice between total economic meltdown or agreeing to help America through a modest Hormuzian oil crisis - I’m pretty sure the Canadian premier would choose the latter
Trump could even frame it as a moral choice. Which side are you on? The west or the Islamists?
PBs idiot pontificates again. If America isn't invading Canada (I'm surprised you have accepted that in your madness. I thought you might want to nuke them) what is America going to do? If it is down to trade then yes America has the whip hand in buying Canadian goods, but if it forces Canada to then cuts off the oil, gas and electricity, what then? That is pretty much an instant effect. Then there is the Aluminium. That will bring American industry to s standstill pretty quickly.
You really are on a roll today Granddad.
It would never get that far because Canada would yield
We are now - sadly - in an era of naked power politics. All the old rules are falling away
The USA is a superpower with an enormous military and the world’s reserve currency. Canada is not these things. It is ten times smaller. It is essentially reliant on America staying kind and peaceful
If a trade war really kicked off the US navy could blockade Canadian ports. What could Canada do about this? Absolutely nothing. No one is coming to rescue them
Canada is not going to shut off energy supplies to the USA because that would be like kicking a grizzly bear in the goolies and then hanging around to see what happens
Long before it reached that stage Canada wouid yield and do Trump’s bidding on energy supplies, because Canadians are neither suicidal nor stupid
This blockade of ports you talk of. When a British, French, Spanish, Australian, Japanese, etc, etc merchant ship comes along what are these American frigates/destroyers/submarines going to do exactly?
Just wondering.
You have spaghetti for brains.
PS Are the Americans going to blockade the skies as well? Just curious.
That you don’t learn much about the world sitting in a Camden bedsit wearing twisted knickers isn’t really a surprise.
That you don’t learn much more by flitting from one five star global experience to another is perhaps a little more surprising, at least until you start to think about it.
Britain could have aspired to be a European Singapore, on a larger scale. Instead we are going to be a European Pakistan, mixed with Argentina pre-Milei
It is very very sad
If only we had the same proportion of Muslims in the UK they have in Singapore.
And they don’t have juries to avoid ethnic loyalties swaying trials.
Singapore is a living rebuke to woke ideology.
If you ask me, it's a demonstration that if you deliver clean, safe streets, good education, and economic growth, then you will get reelected.
They had the advantage of starting from zero in the 1960s. Inherited wealth fucks economic growth.
I have got on a looooooong train to Cornwall with a nice bottle of Cune Rioja, my trusty metal cup, and I’ve forgotten my bloody corkscrew
HELP
You can open a wine bottle with a shoe, place the bottle inside the shoe (heel against the bottle's base) and hit the shoe against a wall. The force of the impact against the wall, transferred through the shoe, helps push the cork out. Its can get quite messy though...
The other trick is you heat the air between the wine and the cork with a lighter.
I want to believe you have made that up just to see if he will do it.
"Computer fraud didn't happen in the 1970s (obviously), . . . "
I have an entertaining book, Computer Capers, by Thomas Whiteside. It was published in 1978, but most of it is based on earlier articles in the New Yorker.
Even my local tesco express was apparently doing an all items free offer this week, the cashier serving me was unimpressed (and ill put her down as 'Reform')
The ne'er-do-wells know that no one will stop them, the police won't show up, there's very little chance they'll get caught and if they're unlucky enough to actually get caught, they'll get told not to be naughty again and be on their merry way. Forget Iran getting nukes, if Starmer could stop this sort of thing, I'd vote Labour in the next election.
I have never experienced or seen this, fortunate to live in a part of the country where at the moment it is not accepted by anyone as a way of acting. But what would be, beyond hand waving and unicorns, Reform's way of tackling it which seriously distinguishes them from the status quo and is affordable?
TASER THEM
I bought a rib eye steak last night in the local Sainsbury's and paid at the self checkout. It was security tagged. There was a label saying so, which I missed. I have no idea how they do that. Anyway on leaving I set off the alarm. I returned. Deserving of a taser blast do you think? Admittedly it is not like I was clearing the shelves, but I suspect they would be in big trouble if they inadvertently taser innocent shoppers.
How do you think you should have been treated for all your illegal activities over the years? It is doubtful you would have ever been out of prison if you were treated like you want to treat others.
Having said all of that I do have sympathy for your reaction. I feel the same sometimes, then sense prevails.
No, you catch them, prosecute them, convict them - THEN taser them. Every day for a week. Don’t bother with prisons - they’re horribly expensive, cruel, and actively harmful
New methods of brisk painful corporal punishment
You call people Centrist Dad often, but really you are a Centrist Grandad. You want to go back to the 1950s all the time. Latest being corporal punishment? Really? What with your other views you really are like the 90+ year old one meets who talk about the good old days.
The thing about my suggestion is: it will work. It’s cheap, powerful, effective. And anyway, why is inflicting mental and social pain - prison - deemed acceptable, but inflicting physical pain is not?
It’s ludicrous. Prison is also expensive and breeds even harder criminals. So taser them. We’d sort this out in a weak
While bleating midwits like you just sigh and wring your hands about this, offer no solution, and nothing happens
It will work? Ever heard of the birch? Did that work?
Probably
Then I suggest you read the research.
Then I suggest you link the research.
Nope. I'm not going to link for every idiotic post @leon makes. It is not like it is difficult to find.
PS I have already linked to a number of posts directly contradicting his nonsense today. It doesn't make any difference. He still comes out with all this crap.
No doubt he finds it highly amusing that so few people here can resist continually rising to the bait.
Oh dear. Hook, line and sinker on my part then. But why bother?
I have got on a looooooong train to Cornwall with a nice bottle of Cune Rioja, my trusty metal cup, and I’ve forgotten my bloody corkscrew
HELP
You can open a wine bottle with a shoe, place the bottle inside the shoe (heel against the bottle's base) and hit the shoe against a wall. The force of the impact against the wall, transferred through the shoe, helps push the cork out. Its can get quite messy though...
The other trick is you heat the air between the wine and the cork with a lighter.
I have got on a looooooong train to Cornwall with a nice bottle of Cune Rioja, my trusty metal cup, and I’ve forgotten my bloody corkscrew
HELP
Push the cork into the bottle, tie a big knot on your shoelace and catch the knot between the cork and side of bottle and pull.
Er, what?!
Thankyou! but - er, what?
That is how you do it. Been there done that. Push the cork in as per @Taz. Get covered in wine. Take a shoelace and put a knot in one end. Lower it (knot down) into wine bottle while at the same time pushing the cork down with your finger. Once the knot is passed the cork remove your finger so that the cork rises to the top. Now pull on the lace slowly and the knot will force the cork out. You will now get covered in wine for a second time.
I have got on a looooooong train to Cornwall with a nice bottle of Cune Rioja, my trusty metal cup, and I’ve forgotten my bloody corkscrew
HELP
Push the cork into the bottle, tie a big knot on your shoelace and catch the knot between the cork and side of bottle and pull.
Er, what?!
Thankyou! but - er, what?
That is how you do it. Been there done that. Push the cork in as per @Taz. Get covered in wine. Take a shoelace and put a knot in one end. Lower it (knot down) into wine bottle while at the same time pushing the cork down with your finger. Once the knot is passed the cork remove your finger so that the cork rises to the top. Now pull on the lace slowly and the knot will force the cork out. You will now get covered in wine for a second time.
Or a third time, if the exercise started with the subject already covered in wine, from a previous bottle...
"Computer fraud didn't happen in the 1970s (obviously), . . . "
I have an entertaining book, Computer Capers, by Thomas Whiteside. It was published in 1978, but most of it is based on earlier articles in the New Yorker.
Worth reading, still? I think so.
I've got a copy of 'Takedown, the Pursuit and Capture of Kevin Mitnik", written in 1995 about the pursuit of Mitnick in 1995, and 'Cyberpunk' about the very early 1980s hackers, including the brilliant Robert Tappen Morris (RTM wasn't really a hacker, more a bored genius doing a what-if experiment.)
Both books: Takedown and Cyberpunk, are still worth a read. In one, a judge hears testomony that a computer expert 'printed out' some data, and was confused when the expert could not produce it in court. Of course, the expert meant he printed it out onto screen...
Then I wondered - exactly how accurate is a smartwatch?
The answer is pretty incredible. By linking with Internet via a smartphone and WiFi/mobile, and also using their own “quality oscillators” and access to GPS, they give time which is within milliseconds of the time given by an atomic clock. For human purposes, they are perfect. Never wrong
How amazing is that? For thousands of years we struggled to get the right time, for centuries we tried to perfect time pieces. Now we’ve done it
You can wear an atomic clock on your wrist. And we shrug and see this as nothing wild
I’m going through Swindon. Going through Swindon often inclines a man to think bigger thoughts, so he doesn’t really notice Swindon
Seven IRGC members and two conscripts were killed in attacks today, according to the Al-Ghadir Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) unit of Iran's Yazd province.
Then I wondered - exactly how accurate is a smartwatch?
The answer is pretty incredible. By linking with Internet via a smartphone and WiFi/mobile, and also using their own “quality oscillators” and access to GPS, they give time which is within milliseconds of the time given by an atomic clock. For human purposes, they are perfect. Never wrong
How amazing is that? For thousands of years we struggled to get the right time, for centuries we tried to perfect time pieces. Now we’ve done it
You can wear an atomic clock on your wrist. And we shrug and see this as nothing wild
I’m going through Swindon. Going through Swindon often inclines a man to think bigger thoughts, so he doesn’t really notice Swindon
Or the coffee, perhaps?
I assure you that Mr Player was wrong in supposing that I thought you purchased inferior coffee. I thought I said to him that I was surprised you should buy such poor roasted corn. I did not believe you had such a thing as coffee in the place; I am certain I never tasted any. I have long ceased to make complaints at Swindon. I avoid taking anything there if I can help it."
Then I wondered - exactly how accurate is a smartwatch?
The answer is pretty incredible. By linking with Internet via a smartphone and WiFi/mobile, and also using their own “quality oscillators” and access to GPS, they give time which is within milliseconds of the time given by an atomic clock. For human purposes, they are perfect. Never wrong
How amazing is that? For thousands of years we struggled to get the right time, for centuries we tried to perfect time pieces. Now we’ve done it
You can wear an atomic clock on your wrist. And we shrug and see this as nothing wild
I’m going through Swindon. Going through Swindon often inclines a man to think bigger thoughts, so he doesn’t really notice Swindon
Good news! My Cringeometer is working again, and working very well.
Even my local tesco express was apparently doing an all items free offer this week, the cashier serving me was unimpressed (and ill put her down as 'Reform')
The ne'er-do-wells know that no one will stop them, the police won't show up, there's very little chance they'll get caught and if they're unlucky enough to actually get caught, they'll get told not to be naughty again and be on their merry way. Forget Iran getting nukes, if Starmer could stop this sort of thing, I'd vote Labour in the next election.
I have never experienced or seen this, fortunate to live in a part of the country where at the moment it is not accepted by anyone as a way of acting. But what would be, beyond hand waving and unicorns, Reform's way of tackling it which seriously distinguishes them from the status quo and is affordable?
TASER THEM
I bought a rib eye steak last night in the local Sainsbury's and paid at the self checkout. It was security tagged. There was a label saying so, which I missed. I have no idea how they do that. Anyway on leaving I set off the alarm. I returned. Deserving of a taser blast do you think? Admittedly it is not like I was clearing the shelves, but I suspect they would be in big trouble if they inadvertently taser innocent shoppers.
How do you think you should have been treated for all your illegal activities over the years? It is doubtful you would have ever been out of prison if you were treated like you want to treat others.
Having said all of that I do have sympathy for your reaction. I feel the same sometimes, then sense prevails.
No, you catch them, prosecute them, convict them - THEN taser them. Every day for a week. Don’t bother with prisons - they’re horribly expensive, cruel, and actively harmful
New methods of brisk painful corporal punishment
You call people Centrist Dad often, but really you are a Centrist Grandad. You want to go back to the 1950s all the time. Latest being corporal punishment? Really? What with your other views you really are like the 90+ year old one meets who talk about the good old days.
The thing about my suggestion is: it will work. It’s cheap, powerful, effective. And anyway, why is inflicting mental and social pain - prison - deemed acceptable, but inflicting physical pain is not?
It’s ludicrous. Prison is also expensive and breeds even harder criminals. So taser them. We’d sort this out in a weak
While bleating midwits like you just sigh and wring your hands about this, offer no solution, and nothing happens
It will work? Ever heard of the birch? Did that work?
Probably
Then I suggest you read the research.
Then I suggest you link the research.
Nope. I'm not going to link for every idiotic post @leon makes. It is not like it is difficult to find.
PS I have already linked to a number of posts directly contradicting his nonsense today. It doesn't make any difference. He still comes out with all this crap.
No doubt he finds it highly amusing that so few people here can resist continually rising to the bait.
Oh dear. Hook, line and sinker on my part then. But why bother?
I suppose the people participating must enjoy it, but I suspect it has driven others away.
Then I wondered - exactly how accurate is a smartwatch?
The answer is pretty incredible. By linking with Internet via a smartphone and WiFi/mobile, and also using their own “quality oscillators” and access to GPS, they give time which is within milliseconds of the time given by an atomic clock. For human purposes, they are perfect. Never wrong
How amazing is that? For thousands of years we struggled to get the right time, for centuries we tried to perfect time pieces. Now we’ve done it
You can wear an atomic clock on your wrist. And we shrug and see this as nothing wild
I’m going through Swindon. Going through Swindon often inclines a man to think bigger thoughts, so he doesn’t really notice Swindon
Or the coffee, perhaps?
I assure you that Mr Player was wrong in supposing that I thought you purchased inferior coffee. I thought I said to him that I was surprised you should buy such poor roasted corn. I did not believe you had such a thing as coffee in the place; I am certain I never tasted any. I have long ceased to make complaints at Swindon. I avoid taking anything there if I can help it."
One time I was on a train through Swindon going west, a chap asked me if the old walls there were "the castle". Turned out he thought it might be Tintagel.
(Note to the management: we have a verdict so aiui this OK.)
An everyday tale of drug-dealing folk, all under 26, which I noticed when it came up in the local paper some time ago - someone had killed someone on an e-bike (actually an e-motorbike) with their SUV.
A sells cocaine to a women B in a pub. Takes her with him and parks up his Landy in a leafy lane for some oompa-loompa. C, mum-of-one cannabis dealer, piloted by D boyfriend on a derestricted Sur-Ron (46mph), and E friend on another Sur-Ron go past the Landy and take an interest, come back and have a look.
A goes berserk and hunts them down in the country road, has 4-5 goes at running down C and D, as testified by B, and C goes flying right over the Landy roof and ends up dead in the road. D ends up with a leg amputated above the knee. E escapes, after A tried to hunt him down after he has dealt with the others.
A testifies "I did not notice hitting them". B testifies that A remarked - after running them down - 'Oh s***. Oh for f**** sake. I was only meant to knock them off the bike.'
A has past offence reports in local media; God knows what is on the PNC.
I don't quite understand how A got off the murder and GBH with intent with which he was charged, but pled guilty to Death and Serious Injury by Dangerous Driving.
Irony: those Sur-Rons can be confiscated on the spot by the police, at any time.
Then I wondered - exactly how accurate is a smartwatch?
The answer is pretty incredible. By linking with Internet via a smartphone and WiFi/mobile, and also using their own “quality oscillators” and access to GPS, they give time which is within milliseconds of the time given by an atomic clock. For human purposes, they are perfect. Never wrong
How amazing is that? For thousands of years we struggled to get the right time, for centuries we tried to perfect time pieces. Now we’ve done it
You can wear an atomic clock on your wrist. And we shrug and see this as nothing wild
I’m going through Swindon. Going through Swindon often inclines a man to think bigger thoughts, so he doesn’t really notice Swindon
It renders completely redundant the scene in Romeo & Juliet where they argue about whether that bird call was from a lark or nightingale.
O/T but here is a photo of the sun setting last night on the summer equinox. Sadly didn’t get the bit where it hit the horizon as was at a party and got distracted.
In Swindon, is eternity. Between it's walls, lies the answer.
Sargon of Akkad is based in Swindon. Useless fact.
Kevin McLoud did his first independent building scheme in Swindon - The Triangle.
One of the locals had a go at one of the people in the new houses, now placed offensively close beyond the fence at the bottom of his garden, about the "noise".
Came the reply: "I can't hear it; I have triple glazing".
I feel reassured by analysis of such sophistication. Surely now, it's all going to be OK ?
“I empathize with Americans who are exhausted after 25 years of wars in the Middle East. I understand the concern. But the difference is that back then we had dumb presidents.” - JD Vance
Then I wondered - exactly how accurate is a smartwatch?
The answer is pretty incredible. By linking with Internet via a smartphone and WiFi/mobile, and also using their own “quality oscillators” and access to GPS, they give time which is within milliseconds of the time given by an atomic clock. For human purposes, they are perfect. Never wrong
How amazing is that? For thousands of years we struggled to get the right time, for centuries we tried to perfect time pieces. Now we’ve done it
Tucker Carlson believes demons created nuclear technology "I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man" & that Christians are being punished for dropping the bomb. https://x.com/TheMilkBarTV/status/1936625005854659005
Then I wondered - exactly how accurate is a smartwatch?
The answer is pretty incredible. By linking with Internet via a smartphone and WiFi/mobile, and also using their own “quality oscillators” and access to GPS, they give time which is within milliseconds of the time given by an atomic clock. For human purposes, they are perfect. Never wrong
How amazing is that? For thousands of years we struggled to get the right time, for centuries we tried to perfect time pieces. Now we’ve done it
Didn't the Swiss do it in about 1500?
Centrist Grandad, not Centrist Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Grandad !
Tucker Carlson believes demons created nuclear technology "I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man" & that Christians are being punished for dropping the bomb. https://x.com/TheMilkBarTV/status/1936625005854659005
In Swindon, is eternity. Between it's walls, lies the answer.
Sargon of Akkad is based in Swindon. Useless fact.
Kevin McLoud did his first independent building scheme in Swindon - The Triangle.
One of the locals had a go at one of the people in the new houses, now placed offensively close beyond the fence at the bottom of his garden, about the "noise".
Came the reply: "I can't hear it; I have triple glazing".
This is my greatest achievement on this site. In fact it might be one of the greatest feats in the history of humanity
I have not just hijacked the thread, I have hijacked it and got everyone to talk about…. Swindon
In Swindon, is eternity. Between it's walls, lies the answer.
So it is. Swindon is the unlikely setting of one of Betjemans's tiny occasional and mostly forgotten ecclesiastical poems. For JB eternity lies in the ten bells of Christ Church, Swindon.
Swindon is also mentioned in one of the volumes of the Thomas the Tank Engine series.
They have been rather humiliated, their proxies decimated, leading military figures killed, air defence destroyed and nuclear sites made inoperable.
And in return they have caused relatively modest damage to Israel, other than using up weapon stockpiles.
Their options are:
1) Escalate. This would mean causing wider damage to global energy markets, but also prolong US involvement which is clearly bad for Iran. I don't think that's a war Iran can win, even if they aren't defeated in the traditional sense (no appetite for a land invasion).
2) Respond by increasing attacks on Israel directly, if possible. That avoids inviting more US involvement, but perhaps isn't enough to be face saving. The war reduces in intensity as stockpiles run low on both sides, but Israel retains the ability to periodically bomb Iranian nuclear sites.
3) De-escalate. Accept defeat and sign a new nuclear deal on humiliating terms that includes removing their current stockpile of highly enriched uranium.
I would suggest the likelihood is highest for 1, lowest for 3. While the order of the most favourable outcome is the other way round.
And now I weep like young Alexander, of Macedon, sate by the purling Hyphasis, that there are no more worlds to conquer
Greatest bits of Darts commentary ever....... (Sid Waddell) Alexander the Great wept aged 30 that there were no more worlds to conquer...... Eric Bristow is 28
For those enjoying Adam Curtis's Shifty this weekend can I recommend the film Hidden City by Stephen Poliakoff. It's about someone who finds footage of what appears to be a woman's abduction in a bit of archive film footage on hop picking in Kent. The film is all about sinister things buried in a mountain of low grade government secrets and archives. It has some brilliant on location shots of old WWII tunnels under Tottenham Court road. It's just the kind of thing you could imagine Adam Curtis turning up in an archive somewhere.
In Swindon, is eternity. Between it's walls, lies the answer.
Sargon of Akkad is based in Swindon. Useless fact.
4300 years on, Sargon of Akkad has just had a chunk of the Elamite bit of his empire bombed to bits by aliens in flying saucers from an unknown continent.
And on the pedestal, these words appear: My name is Ozytrumpias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
In Swindon, is eternity. Between it's walls, lies the answer.
So it is. Swindon is the unlikely setting of one of Betjemans's tiny occasional and mostly forgotten ecclesiastical poems. For JB eternity lies in the ten bells of Christ Church, Swindon.
Swindon is also mentioned in one of the volumes of the Thomas the Tank Engine series.
And it's in Wiltshire so can't be all bad.
The modern centre of Swindon always reminds of the scene in Brazil where DeNiro's terorist plumber gets swept away in a storm of paper.
Tucker Carlson believes demons created nuclear technology "I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man" & that Christians are being punished for dropping the bomb. https://x.com/TheMilkBarTV/status/1936625005854659005
I have got on a looooooong train to Cornwall with a nice bottle of Cune Rioja, my trusty metal cup, and I’ve forgotten my bloody corkscrew
HELP
You can open a wine bottle with a shoe, place the bottle inside the shoe (heel against the bottle's base) and hit the shoe against a wall. The force of the impact against the wall, transferred through the shoe, helps push the cork out. Its can get quite messy though...
The other trick is you heat the air between the wine and the cork with a lighter.
just push it in
Your wine get corky though.
depends how long you take to drink it and better than not having a drink.
JD Vance on the threat of Iranian terrorism in the US.
“We feel very confident in our FBI and law enforcement that we’re on top of the situation, but yeah, we’re looking at this very closely,”
Does he really believe that given how badly Trump has disrupted the running of US intelligence and crime fighting systems? The man is deluded. I would certainly not be feeling confident at all.
They have been rather humiliated, their proxies decimated, leading military figures killed, air defence destroyed and nuclear sites made inoperable.
And in return they have caused relatively modest damage to Israel, other than using up weapon stockpiles.
Their options are:
1) Escalate. This would mean causing wider damage to global energy markets, but also prolong US involvement which is clearly bad for Iran. I don't think that's a war Iran can win, even if they aren't defeated in the traditional sense (no appetite for a land invasion).
2) Respond by increasing attacks on Israel directly, if possible. That avoids inviting more US involvement, but perhaps isn't enough to be face saving. The war reduces in intensity as stockpiles run low on both sides, but Israel retains the ability to periodically bomb Iranian nuclear sites.
3) De-escalate. Accept defeat and sign a new nuclear deal on humiliating terms that includes removing their current stockpile of highly enriched uranium.
I would suggest the likelihood is highest for 1, lowest for 3. While the order of the most favourable outcome is the other way round.
Tucker Carlson believes demons created nuclear technology "I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man" & that Christians are being punished for dropping the bomb. https://x.com/TheMilkBarTV/status/1936625005854659005
"I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man"
Tucker Carlson believes demons created nuclear technology "I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man" & that Christians are being punished for dropping the bomb. https://x.com/TheMilkBarTV/status/1936625005854659005
"I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man"
Errr
Would be because he hasn't read any history?
Or seen the film Barbie (or was it the other one)?
What has happened to Tucker Carlson? Is he now more MAGA than Trump or has he gone the full David Icke?
Tucker Carlson believes demons created nuclear technology "I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man" & that Christians are being punished for dropping the bomb. https://x.com/TheMilkBarTV/status/1936625005854659005
"I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man"
Errr
Would be because he hasn't read any history?
If only somebody would make a movie about how the Americans weaponised it....I reckon that Christopher Nolan could do a decent job.
Looking at the satellite images, why wouldn't you blow up the support building that is on the surface while you were at it.
Would have been perfect PR for Iran to show all the support staff killed by the bombing. They aren't going to release a single photo of the chambers with the centrifuges, are they?
Tucker Carlson believes demons created nuclear technology "I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man" & that Christians are being punished for dropping the bomb. https://x.com/TheMilkBarTV/status/1936625005854659005
"I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man"
Tucker Carlson believes demons created nuclear technology "I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man" & that Christians are being punished for dropping the bomb. https://x.com/TheMilkBarTV/status/1936625005854659005
"I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man"
Errr
Would be because he hasn't read any history?
Or seen the film Barbie (or was it the other one)?
What has happened to Tucker Carlson? Is he now more MAGA than Trump or has he gone the full David Icke?
Hard to imagine he used to be on CNN, even Fox News. I can't work out if he has gone mad and really believes this or thinks this is the stuff hus audience wants to hear.
"Computer fraud didn't happen in the 1970s (obviously), . . . "
I have an entertaining book, Computer Capers, by Thomas Whiteside. It was published in 1978, but most of it is based on earlier articles in the New Yorker.
Worth reading, still? I think so.
I've got a copy of 'Takedown, the Pursuit and Capture of Kevin Mitnik", written in 1995 about the pursuit of Mitnick in 1995, and 'Cyberpunk' about the very early 1980s hackers, including the brilliant Robert Tappen Morris (RTM wasn't really a hacker, more a bored genius doing a what-if experiment.)
Both books: Takedown and Cyberpunk, are still worth a read. In one, a judge hears testomony that a computer expert 'printed out' some data, and was confused when the expert could not produce it in court. Of course, the expert meant he printed it out onto screen...
Tucker Carlson believes demons created nuclear technology "I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man" & that Christians are being punished for dropping the bomb. https://x.com/TheMilkBarTV/status/1936625005854659005
"I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man"
Errr
Would be because he hasn't read any history?
If only somebody would make a movie about how the Americans weaponised it....I reckon that Christopher Nolan could do a decent job.
Molly Ploofkins @Mollyploofkins · 3h Vance: I empathize with Americans who are exhausted after 25 years of foreign entanglements in the Middle East. I understand the concern, but the difference is that back then we had dumb presidents.
Tucker Carlson believes demons created nuclear technology "I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man" & that Christians are being punished for dropping the bomb. https://x.com/TheMilkBarTV/status/1936625005854659005
"I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man"
Errr
Would be because he hasn't read any history?
Or seen the film Barbie (or was it the other one)?
What has happened to Tucker Carlson? Is he now more MAGA than Trump or has he gone the full David Icke?
Hard to imagine he used to be on CNN, even Fox News. I can't work out if he has gone mad and really believes this or thinks this is the stuff hus audience wants to hear.
I suspect his ego has got so huge that he's unable to differentiate between an odd notion that pops into his head from an insight of cosmic importance.
Forget about intelligence is the motto of this regime...
That response as crazy as it might sound. If he says yes, the next question will be what, when will it be released to the public, etc and confirmation that Mossad have agents at the highest level in the Iranian system. You don't want to even get into the yes, no, maybe, can't say.
Looking at the satellite images, why wouldn't you blow up the support building that is on the surface while you were at it.
Good evening
I am no expert but I understand these bombs penetrate to quite a depth before exploding hence I am not surprised the surface buildings remain untouched, not least because B2 only have a couple of them at a time
Looking at the satellite images, why wouldn't you blow up the support building that is on the surface while you were at it.
Good evening
I am no expert but I understand these bombs penetrate to quite a depth before exploding hence I am not surprised the surface buildings remain untouched, not least because B2 only have a couple of them at a time
Yes I understand that, but the attacks weren't just the B2 bombers, they went with an array of fire from fighter jets to submarines.
"Computer fraud didn't happen in the 1970s (obviously), . . . "
I have an entertaining book, Computer Capers, by Thomas Whiteside. It was published in 1978, but most of it is based on earlier articles in the New Yorker.
Worth reading, still? I think so.
I've got a copy of 'Takedown, the Pursuit and Capture of Kevin Mitnik", written in 1995 about the pursuit of Mitnick in 1995, and 'Cyberpunk' about the very early 1980s hackers, including the brilliant Robert Tappen Morris (RTM wasn't really a hacker, more a bored genius doing a what-if experiment.)
Both books: Takedown and Cyberpunk, are still worth a read. In one, a judge hears testomony that a computer expert 'printed out' some data, and was confused when the expert could not produce it in court. Of course, the expert meant he printed it out onto screen...
The Cuckoos Egg is excellent
Thanks!!! That's one I was forgetting! Yes, it was excellent (I think that's the one that had the 'print' anecdote in it?)
Comments
We are now - sadly - in an era of naked power politics. All the old rules are falling away
The USA is a superpower with an enormous military and the world’s reserve currency. Canada is not these things. It is ten times smaller. It is essentially reliant on America staying kind and peaceful
If a trade war really kicked off the US navy could blockade Canadian ports. What could Canada do about this? Absolutely nothing. No one is coming to rescue them
Canada is not going to shut off energy supplies to the USA because that would be like kicking a grizzly bear in the goolies and then hanging around to see what happens
Long before it reached that stage Canada wouid yield and do Trump’s bidding on energy supplies, because Canadians are neither suicidal nor stupid
PS I have already linked to a number of posts directly contradicting his nonsense today. It doesn't make any difference. He still comes out with all this crap.
I think….
I’ll keep you posted
Then I looked at the date.
If Iran closes the Straits of Hormuz, will the price of US oil (i.e. denominated by the WTI index) move in lockstep with the price of international oil (i.e. Brent crude). I would count lockstep as being a move of at least 80% of the move in Brent.
£50?
But a year after the straits closure?
Works better for white than red :-)
So there’s no way that @rcs1000’s bet can be sensibly framed. Unless he can think of some means of taking all these variables into account
LNER does...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXihX13xjqQ
How to open a Wine Bottle with a Lighter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdCfX7WVxu4
Just wondering.
You have spaghetti for brains.
PS Are the Americans going to blockade the skies as well? Just curious.
That you don’t learn much more by flitting from one five star global experience to another is perhaps a little more surprising, at least until you start to think about it.
...because there's plenty other willing participants?
"If there is any passenger with a Swiss army knife with a corkscrew attachment, please make yourself known to a member of staff..."
I have an entertaining book, Computer Capers, by Thomas Whiteside. It was published in 1978, but most of it is based on earlier articles in the New Yorker.
Worth reading, still? I think so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz21u-B_dJM
Thankyou! but - er, what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Tappan_Morris
Then there is Cap'n Crunch, a phone phreaker.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Draper
Both books: Takedown and Cyberpunk, are still worth a read. In one, a judge hears testomony that a computer expert 'printed out' some data, and was confused when the expert could not produce it in court. Of course, the expert meant he printed it out onto screen...
Then I wondered - exactly how accurate is a smartwatch?
The answer is pretty incredible. By linking with Internet via a smartphone and WiFi/mobile, and also using their own “quality oscillators” and access to GPS, they give time which is within milliseconds of the time given by an atomic clock. For human purposes, they are perfect. Never wrong
How amazing is that? For thousands of years we struggled to get the right time, for centuries we tried to perfect time pieces. Now we’ve done it
You can wear an atomic clock on your wrist. And we shrug and see this as nothing wild
I’m going through Swindon. Going through Swindon often inclines a man to think bigger thoughts, so he doesn’t really notice Swindon
I assure you that Mr Player was wrong in supposing that I thought you purchased inferior coffee. I thought I said to him that I was surprised you should buy such poor roasted corn. I did not believe you had such a thing as coffee in the place; I am certain I never tasted any. I have long ceased to make complaints at Swindon. I avoid taking anything there if I can help it."
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letter-brunel-roasts-station-buffet-1310887.html
I have one of these keys
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Securit-S1064-Security-Brass-Black/dp/B002SP7W88/ref=asc_df_B002SP7W88?mcid=c698dd669a963801b13b208f53958144&hvocijid=15745619210687511858-B002SP7W88-&hvexpln=74&tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=696285193871&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15745619210687511858&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9046788&hvtargid=pla-2281435177418&psc=1&gad_source=1
And next time, buy a bottle with a screw top.
An everyday tale of drug-dealing folk, all under 26, which I noticed when it came up in the local paper some time ago - someone had killed someone on an e-bike (actually an e-motorbike) with their SUV.
A sells cocaine to a women B in a pub. Takes her with him and parks up his Landy in a leafy lane for some oompa-loompa. C, mum-of-one cannabis dealer, piloted by D boyfriend on a derestricted Sur-Ron (46mph), and E friend on another Sur-Ron go past the Landy and take an interest, come back and have a look.
A goes berserk and hunts them down in the country road, has 4-5 goes at running down C and D, as testified by B, and C goes flying right over the Landy roof and ends up dead in the road. D ends up with a leg amputated above the knee. E escapes, after A tried to hunt him down after he has dealt with the others.
A testifies "I did not notice hitting them". B testifies that A remarked - after running them down - 'Oh s***. Oh for f**** sake. I was only meant to knock them off the bike.'
A has past offence reports in local media; God knows what is on the PNC.
I don't quite understand how A got off the murder and GBH with intent with which he was charged, but pled guilty to Death and Serious Injury by Dangerous Driving.
Irony: those Sur-Rons can be confiscated on the spot by the police, at any time.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14743317/Drug-dealer-chased-mother-boyfriend-e-bike-mile-deliberately-running-Land-Rover-murder-trial-told.html
Anyway, I hope you enjoy it.
One of the locals had a go at one of the people in the new houses, now placed offensively close beyond the fence at the bottom of his garden, about the "noise".
Came the reply: "I can't hear it; I have triple glazing".
“I empathize with Americans who are exhausted after 25 years of wars in the Middle East. I understand the concern. But the difference is that back then we had dumb presidents.” - JD Vance
Hard to weigh.
Tucker Carlson believes demons created nuclear technology "I’ve never met a person who can isolate the moment where nuclear technology became known to man" & that Christians are being punished for dropping the bomb.
https://x.com/TheMilkBarTV/status/1936625005854659005
I have not just hijacked the thread, I have hijacked it and got everyone to talk about…. Swindon
https://x.com/FARED_ALHOR/status/1936825110801048041
ISIS, of course, being a direct consequence of the last major US adventure in the ME.
I sincerely hope this one turns out better.
Swindon is also mentioned in one of the volumes of the Thomas the Tank Engine series.
And it's in Wiltshire so can't be all bad.
They have been rather humiliated, their proxies decimated, leading military figures killed, air defence destroyed and nuclear sites made inoperable.
And in return they have caused relatively modest damage to Israel, other than using up weapon stockpiles.
Their options are:
1) Escalate. This would mean causing wider damage to global energy markets, but also prolong US involvement which is clearly bad for Iran. I don't think that's a war Iran can win, even if they aren't defeated in the traditional sense (no appetite for a land invasion).
2) Respond by increasing attacks on Israel directly, if possible. That avoids inviting more US involvement, but perhaps isn't enough to be face saving. The war reduces in intensity as stockpiles run low on both sides, but Israel retains the ability to periodically bomb Iranian nuclear sites.
3) De-escalate. Accept defeat and sign a new nuclear deal on humiliating terms that includes removing their current stockpile of highly enriched uranium.
I would suggest the likelihood is highest for 1, lowest for 3. While the order of the most favourable outcome is the other way round.
Alexander the Great wept aged 30 that there were no more worlds to conquer...... Eric Bristow is 28
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1936829739995668844
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozytrumpias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
“We feel very confident in our FBI and law enforcement that we’re on top of the situation, but yeah, we’re looking at this very closely,”
Does he really believe that given how badly Trump has disrupted the running of US intelligence and crime fighting systems? The man is deluded. I would certainly not be feeling confident at all.
Exclusive: ‘Systemic risk’ to cybersecurity after devices worth more than £1m a year are taken or lost
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/22/uk-government-laptops-phones-tablets-lost-stolen-cybersecurity
Stay safe everyone.
Errr
Would be because he hasn't read any history?
What has happened to Tucker Carlson? Is he now more MAGA than Trump or has he gone the full David Icke?
It must be serious, the absolute world heavyweights have entered the chat
Host: Are you saying the US did not see intelligence that the Supreme Leader had ordered weaponization?
Rubio: That’s irrelevant
Host: No, that's a key point
Rubio: No it’s not… Forget about intelligence
https://bsky.app/profile/factpostnews.bsky.social/post/3ls7j4kj3sk2u
Forget about intelligence is the motto of this regime...
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Vance: I empathize with Americans who are exhausted after 25 years of foreign entanglements in the Middle East. I understand the concern, but the difference is that back then we had dumb presidents.
https://x.com/Mollyploofkins/status/1936804944721637684
Talk about absolutely fecking desperate back pedalling shite.
https://youtu.be/exN4SG0Hdyk?si=MAl_CTUU3pBp0RgP
I am no expert but I understand these bombs penetrate to quite a depth before exploding hence I am not surprised the surface buildings remain untouched, not least because B2 only have a couple of them at a time