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SystemSystem Posts: 12,530
edited June 20 in General
Scooby Doo, where are you as Spanish politics is literally going to the dogs – politicalbetting.com

The heat has addled my brain today so please enjoy this shaggy dog story from Spain in lieu of a regular thread.

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  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,686
    MarqueeMark said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    LostPassword said:

    A story for @Anabobazina

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2025/0620/1519549-shop-cleared-of-discrimination-over-68-payment-in-coins/

    "A supermarket has been cleared of discriminating against two children who were asked by a cashier if they had "anything larger" when they tried to pay for €68 worth of groceries with 10c and 20c coins."

    Seems the gypsy's believed it was because they were gypsy's...

    The family’s position, as presented by the children’s mother at last month’s hearing, was that the children were "refused service at the supermarket because they were members of the Travelling Community".

    Did think it was an odd story as no kids I know ever have cash, not sure some even know what it looks like...just Apple Pay on their phone / watch.
    Somewhere between 340 and 680 coins - where can you even nick that amount of coins any more?
    Running the waltzers?

    Keep your hands inside of the ride, or you might die, Shabba....
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,881
    @TSE
    I didnt get the chance on the last thread to thank David Cameron for calling a referendum

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,409
    Alanbrooke said:

    @TSE
    I didnt get the chance on the last thread to thank David Cameron for calling a referendum

    It's okay, 2016 was Dave's Operation Dynamo, in the next few years there will be an Operation Overlord.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,354
    edited June 20
    More than the Lords amendments, there is another fight to come. The bill gives the government two years to come up with a regime for AD which implements it. Wes Streeting (against) will have a big part in it.

    Will there need to be a bill passed to amend this one, once the details have actually been worked out?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,950
    This threader shows that reality can be funnier than fiction...
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,409
    The Welsh are such snowflakes.

    Tesco says sorry after running ‘meet the Lionesses’ campaign... in Wales

    Supermarket pulls Lucozade’s England promotion for Euro 2025 from Cardiff outlets after shoppers describe it as ‘deeply offensive’

    Tesco has apologised for displaying a “meet the Lionesses” advertising stand in a Cardiff store, which customers described as “deeply offensive”.

    Wales’s women’s team will take part in their first major tournament at this summer’s Euro 2025 and have been drawn in the same group as England.

    Shoppers in Cardiff were outraged by a Lucozade display that offered the chance for fans to meet the Lionesses, whom Wales play on July 13.

    Noel Mooney, the chief executive of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) was one of several people to share their anger on social media, posting on X: “We are Cymru.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/06/20/tesco-lionesses-campaign-wales-england-women-euro-2025/
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,417
    Was it a robodog ?
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,653
    On topic, polling average has the PP lead over PSOE at about 5 points (34/29), albeit with some polls, notably one CIS series, showing a small PSOE lead, and others a 10 point PP lead.

    There's quite some weighting going on as well, many unweighted polls showing things as tight and preferred PM figures favouring Sanchez.

    Do you read it as competitive or don you use the UK rule of think and take the worst Socialist figures?

    An interesting and potentially competitive environment.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 15,378
    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The Welsh are such snowflakes.

    Tesco says sorry after running ‘meet the Lionesses’ campaign... in Wales

    Supermarket pulls Lucozade’s England promotion for Euro 2025 from Cardiff outlets after shoppers describe it as ‘deeply offensive’

    Tesco has apologised for displaying a “meet the Lionesses” advertising stand in a Cardiff store, which customers described as “deeply offensive”.

    Wales’s women’s team will take part in their first major tournament at this summer’s Euro 2025 and have been drawn in the same group as England.

    Shoppers in Cardiff were outraged by a Lucozade display that offered the chance for fans to meet the Lionesses, whom Wales play on July 13.

    Noel Mooney, the chief executive of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) was one of several people to share their anger on social media, posting on X: “We are Cymru.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/06/20/tesco-lionesses-campaign-wales-england-women-euro-2025/

    So no English people live in Cardiff then? No one in Wales could possibly want to meet the Lionesses? Pathetic grievance culture from the arch nation of grievance.
    Perhaps it can be described as 'misconceived', but not offensive. I wouldn't be offended by being offered a chance to meet, say, the Scottish or German or Italian womens' football team.

    I still have a memory of leader of Liverpool City Council Mike Storey complaining on the North West news - when car registrations were reordered around 2003 - that it was 'insensitive' that Manchester and Merseyside had to share a letter 'M'. Tit.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,409
    edited June 20
    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The Welsh are such snowflakes.

    Tesco says sorry after running ‘meet the Lionesses’ campaign... in Wales

    Supermarket pulls Lucozade’s England promotion for Euro 2025 from Cardiff outlets after shoppers describe it as ‘deeply offensive’

    Tesco has apologised for displaying a “meet the Lionesses” advertising stand in a Cardiff store, which customers described as “deeply offensive”.

    Wales’s women’s team will take part in their first major tournament at this summer’s Euro 2025 and have been drawn in the same group as England.

    Shoppers in Cardiff were outraged by a Lucozade display that offered the chance for fans to meet the Lionesses, whom Wales play on July 13.

    Noel Mooney, the chief executive of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) was one of several people to share their anger on social media, posting on X: “We are Cymru.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/06/20/tesco-lionesses-campaign-wales-england-women-euro-2025/

    So no English people live in Cardiff then? No one in Wales could possibly want to meet the Lionesses? Pathetic grievance culture from the arch nation of grievance.
    Fortunately nobody in Wales supports English football teams.

    Some people in Wales forget Wales is a littoral part of England.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,461
    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The Welsh are such snowflakes.

    Tesco says sorry after running ‘meet the Lionesses’ campaign... in Wales

    Supermarket pulls Lucozade’s England promotion for Euro 2025 from Cardiff outlets after shoppers describe it as ‘deeply offensive’

    Tesco has apologised for displaying a “meet the Lionesses” advertising stand in a Cardiff store, which customers described as “deeply offensive”.

    Wales’s women’s team will take part in their first major tournament at this summer’s Euro 2025 and have been drawn in the same group as England.

    Shoppers in Cardiff were outraged by a Lucozade display that offered the chance for fans to meet the Lionesses, whom Wales play on July 13.

    Noel Mooney, the chief executive of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) was one of several people to share their anger on social media, posting on X: “We are Cymru.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/06/20/tesco-lionesses-campaign-wales-england-women-euro-2025/

    So no English people live in Cardiff then? No one in Wales could possibly want to meet the Lionesses? Pathetic grievance culture from the arch nation of grievance.
    Tubbs, I'm very tempted to flag you for that, but I haven't!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,417
    Another one.

    Rep. RJ May, a Republican member of the South Carolina House, has been arrested and charged with 10 counts of distributing child sexual abuse material. Prosecutors say he used the screen name “joebidennnn69.”
    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1935816209741586692
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,768
    carnforth said:

    More than the Lords amendments, there is another fight to come. The bill gives the government two years to come up with a regime for AD which implements it. Wes Streeting (against) will have a big part in it.

    Will there need to be a bill passed to amend this one, once the details have actually been worked out?

    Sky are saying it is unlikely to be implemented much before the next GE and could feature in party manifestos

    I think the debate on the last thread is where the controversy lies in so far as some want it as a way to end their life when they haven't a terminal diagnosis
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,461
    Nigelb said:

    Another one.

    Rep. RJ May, a Republican member of the South Carolina House, has been arrested and charged with 10 counts of distributing child sexual abuse material. Prosecutors say he used the screen name “joebidennnn69.”
    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1935816209741586692

    Pardon incoming??
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,226
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The Welsh are such snowflakes.

    Tesco says sorry after running ‘meet the Lionesses’ campaign... in Wales

    Supermarket pulls Lucozade’s England promotion for Euro 2025 from Cardiff outlets after shoppers describe it as ‘deeply offensive’

    Tesco has apologised for displaying a “meet the Lionesses” advertising stand in a Cardiff store, which customers described as “deeply offensive”.

    Wales’s women’s team will take part in their first major tournament at this summer’s Euro 2025 and have been drawn in the same group as England.

    Shoppers in Cardiff were outraged by a Lucozade display that offered the chance for fans to meet the Lionesses, whom Wales play on July 13.

    Noel Mooney, the chief executive of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) was one of several people to share their anger on social media, posting on X: “We are Cymru.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/06/20/tesco-lionesses-campaign-wales-england-women-euro-2025/

    So no English people live in Cardiff then? No one in Wales could possibly want to meet the Lionesses? Pathetic grievance culture from the arch nation of grievance.
    Fortunately nobody in Wales supports English football teams.

    Some people in Wales forget Wales is a littoral part of England.
    I knew a guy at Uni who supported Wales at rugby and England at football. Talk about neither fish nor fowl.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 84,686
    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The Welsh are such snowflakes.

    Tesco says sorry after running ‘meet the Lionesses’ campaign... in Wales

    Supermarket pulls Lucozade’s England promotion for Euro 2025 from Cardiff outlets after shoppers describe it as ‘deeply offensive’

    Tesco has apologised for displaying a “meet the Lionesses” advertising stand in a Cardiff store, which customers described as “deeply offensive”.

    Wales’s women’s team will take part in their first major tournament at this summer’s Euro 2025 and have been drawn in the same group as England.

    Shoppers in Cardiff were outraged by a Lucozade display that offered the chance for fans to meet the Lionesses, whom Wales play on July 13.

    Noel Mooney, the chief executive of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) was one of several people to share their anger on social media, posting on X: “We are Cymru.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/06/20/tesco-lionesses-campaign-wales-england-women-euro-2025/

    So no English people live in Cardiff then? No one in Wales could possibly want to meet the Lionesses? Pathetic grievance culture from the arch nation of grievance.
    Fortunately nobody in Wales supports English football teams.

    Some people in Wales forget Wales is a littoral part of England.
    I knew a guy at Uni who supported Wales at rugby and England at football. Talk about neither fish nor fowl.
    India in the cricket?
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,384
    In these days of gender-fluidity I'm surprised any police officer was brave enough to check what a self-identifying woman was hiding down her trousers :hushed:
  • CookieCookie Posts: 15,378
    edited June 20
    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The Welsh are such snowflakes.

    Tesco says sorry after running ‘meet the Lionesses’ campaign... in Wales

    Supermarket pulls Lucozade’s England promotion for Euro 2025 from Cardiff outlets after shoppers describe it as ‘deeply offensive’

    Tesco has apologised for displaying a “meet the Lionesses” advertising stand in a Cardiff store, which customers described as “deeply offensive”.

    Wales’s women’s team will take part in their first major tournament at this summer’s Euro 2025 and have been drawn in the same group as England.

    Shoppers in Cardiff were outraged by a Lucozade display that offered the chance for fans to meet the Lionesses, whom Wales play on July 13.

    Noel Mooney, the chief executive of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) was one of several people to share their anger on social media, posting on X: “We are Cymru.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/06/20/tesco-lionesses-campaign-wales-england-women-euro-2025/

    So no English people live in Cardiff then? No one in Wales could possibly want to meet the Lionesses? Pathetic grievance culture from the arch nation of grievance.
    Fortunately nobody in Wales supports English football teams.

    Some people in Wales forget Wales is a littoral part of England.
    I knew a guy at Uni who supported Wales at rugby and England at football. Talk about neither fish nor fowl.
    That used to be not-unusual among those of mixed heritage and/or Welsh people who wanted a team to follow which qualified for things. I remember Keith Allen was one such, as self-described in his pleasant little Italia 90 travelogue. Wales used to be one of the best teams in the world, and England used to be quite good at football while Wales did not.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 19,226
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The Welsh are such snowflakes.

    Tesco says sorry after running ‘meet the Lionesses’ campaign... in Wales

    Supermarket pulls Lucozade’s England promotion for Euro 2025 from Cardiff outlets after shoppers describe it as ‘deeply offensive’

    Tesco has apologised for displaying a “meet the Lionesses” advertising stand in a Cardiff store, which customers described as “deeply offensive”.

    Wales’s women’s team will take part in their first major tournament at this summer’s Euro 2025 and have been drawn in the same group as England.

    Shoppers in Cardiff were outraged by a Lucozade display that offered the chance for fans to meet the Lionesses, whom Wales play on July 13.

    Noel Mooney, the chief executive of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) was one of several people to share their anger on social media, posting on X: “We are Cymru.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/06/20/tesco-lionesses-campaign-wales-england-women-euro-2025/

    So no English people live in Cardiff then? No one in Wales could possibly want to meet the Lionesses? Pathetic grievance culture from the arch nation of grievance.
    Fortunately nobody in Wales supports English football teams.

    Some people in Wales forget Wales is a littoral part of England.
    I knew a guy at Uni who supported Wales at rugby and England at football. Talk about neither fish nor fowl.
    India in the cricket?
    England at cricket (but not much interest as it was the 90's and England were heroically bad in them days.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,461
    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The Welsh are such snowflakes.

    Tesco says sorry after running ‘meet the Lionesses’ campaign... in Wales

    Supermarket pulls Lucozade’s England promotion for Euro 2025 from Cardiff outlets after shoppers describe it as ‘deeply offensive’

    Tesco has apologised for displaying a “meet the Lionesses” advertising stand in a Cardiff store, which customers described as “deeply offensive”.

    Wales’s women’s team will take part in their first major tournament at this summer’s Euro 2025 and have been drawn in the same group as England.

    Shoppers in Cardiff were outraged by a Lucozade display that offered the chance for fans to meet the Lionesses, whom Wales play on July 13.

    Noel Mooney, the chief executive of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) was one of several people to share their anger on social media, posting on X: “We are Cymru.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/06/20/tesco-lionesses-campaign-wales-england-women-euro-2025/

    So no English people live in Cardiff then? No one in Wales could possibly want to meet the Lionesses? Pathetic grievance culture from the arch nation of grievance.
    Fortunately nobody in Wales supports English football teams.

    Some people in Wales forget Wales is a littoral part of England.
    I knew a guy at Uni who supported Wales at rugby and England at football. Talk about neither fish nor fowl.
    I can live with that. But the England Rugby squad are beyond Welsh contempt. They dined out on the spurious Ringer sending off which lead to the1980 Grand Slam for eleven years, and the 2003 World Cup win predicated on drop goals is still wheeled out every bloody year.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,409
    Mexicanpete said:

    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The Welsh are such snowflakes.

    Tesco says sorry after running ‘meet the Lionesses’ campaign... in Wales

    Supermarket pulls Lucozade’s England promotion for Euro 2025 from Cardiff outlets after shoppers describe it as ‘deeply offensive’

    Tesco has apologised for displaying a “meet the Lionesses” advertising stand in a Cardiff store, which customers described as “deeply offensive”.

    Wales’s women’s team will take part in their first major tournament at this summer’s Euro 2025 and have been drawn in the same group as England.

    Shoppers in Cardiff were outraged by a Lucozade display that offered the chance for fans to meet the Lionesses, whom Wales play on July 13.

    Noel Mooney, the chief executive of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) was one of several people to share their anger on social media, posting on X: “We are Cymru.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/06/20/tesco-lionesses-campaign-wales-england-women-euro-2025/

    So no English people live in Cardiff then? No one in Wales could possibly want to meet the Lionesses? Pathetic grievance culture from the arch nation of grievance.
    Fortunately nobody in Wales supports English football teams.

    Some people in Wales forget Wales is a littoral part of England.
    I knew a guy at Uni who supported Wales at rugby and England at football. Talk about neither fish nor fowl.
    I can live with that. But the England Rugby squad are beyond Welsh contempt. They dined out on the spurious Ringer sending off which lead to the1980 Grand Slam for eleven years, and the 2003 World Cup win predicated on drop goals is still wheeled out every bloody year.
    Don’t worry, the Welsh can focus on all the times they’ve won the World Cup, oh.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,461
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Mexicanpete said:

    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The Welsh are such snowflakes.

    Tesco says sorry after running ‘meet the Lionesses’ campaign... in Wales

    Supermarket pulls Lucozade’s England promotion for Euro 2025 from Cardiff outlets after shoppers describe it as ‘deeply offensive’

    Tesco has apologised for displaying a “meet the Lionesses” advertising stand in a Cardiff store, which customers described as “deeply offensive”.

    Wales’s women’s team will take part in their first major tournament at this summer’s Euro 2025 and have been drawn in the same group as England.

    Shoppers in Cardiff were outraged by a Lucozade display that offered the chance for fans to meet the Lionesses, whom Wales play on July 13.

    Noel Mooney, the chief executive of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) was one of several people to share their anger on social media, posting on X: “We are Cymru.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/06/20/tesco-lionesses-campaign-wales-england-women-euro-2025/

    So no English people live in Cardiff then? No one in Wales could possibly want to meet the Lionesses? Pathetic grievance culture from the arch nation of grievance.
    Fortunately nobody in Wales supports English football teams.

    Some people in Wales forget Wales is a littoral part of England.
    I knew a guy at Uni who supported Wales at rugby and England at football. Talk about neither fish nor fowl.
    I can live with that. But the England Rugby squad are beyond Welsh contempt. They dined out on the spurious Ringer sending off which lead to the1980 Grand Slam for eleven years, and the 2003 World Cup win predicated on drop goals is still wheeled out every bloody year.
    Don’t worry, the Welsh can focus on all the times they’ve won the World Cup, oh.
    See, there you go again, dining out on 2003 thin gruel. If Alain Rolland (Irish my arse!) hadn't outrageously sent Warburton off against France in 2011, who knows?

    If I hadn't missed the boat train from Victoria perhaps I would have conquered Everest. Who knows?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,417
    Norwegian Government commits to allocating 5 % of GDP to defence-related expenditures
    https://www.regjeringen.no/en/aktuelt/norwegian-government-commits-to-allocating-5-of-gdp-to-defence-related-expenditures/id3110204/
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,076
    edited June 20
    Cookie said:

    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The Welsh are such snowflakes.

    Tesco says sorry after running ‘meet the Lionesses’ campaign... in Wales

    Supermarket pulls Lucozade’s England promotion for Euro 2025 from Cardiff outlets after shoppers describe it as ‘deeply offensive’

    Tesco has apologised for displaying a “meet the Lionesses” advertising stand in a Cardiff store, which customers described as “deeply offensive”.

    Wales’s women’s team will take part in their first major tournament at this summer’s Euro 2025 and have been drawn in the same group as England.

    Shoppers in Cardiff were outraged by a Lucozade display that offered the chance for fans to meet the Lionesses, whom Wales play on July 13.

    Noel Mooney, the chief executive of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) was one of several people to share their anger on social media, posting on X: “We are Cymru.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/06/20/tesco-lionesses-campaign-wales-england-women-euro-2025/

    So no English people live in Cardiff then? No one in Wales could possibly want to meet the Lionesses? Pathetic grievance culture from the arch nation of grievance.
    Fortunately nobody in Wales supports English football teams.

    Some people in Wales forget Wales is a littoral part of England.
    I knew a guy at Uni who supported Wales at rugby and England at football. Talk about neither fish nor fowl.
    That used to be not-unusual among those of mixed heritage and/or Welsh people who wanted a team to follow which qualified for things. I remember Keith Allen was one such, as self-described in his pleasant little Italia 90 travelogue. Wales used to be one of the best teams in the world, and England used to be quite good at football while Wales did not.
    For me it is much more complicated.

    Football - England or Scotland. If they play each other then it depends.
    Rugby - Scotland, then Wales. In fact anyone but England...
  • novanova Posts: 848
    Nigelb said:

    Norwegian Government commits to allocating 5 % of GDP to defence-related expenditures
    https://www.regjeringen.no/en/aktuelt/norwegian-government-commits-to-allocating-5-of-gdp-to-defence-related-expenditures/id3110204/

    I wonder how creative Governments will be with what constitutes 'defence', if there's pressure to head towards 5% of GDP?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,950
    Nigelb said:

    Norwegian Government commits to allocating 5 % of GDP to defence-related expenditures
    https://www.regjeringen.no/en/aktuelt/norwegian-government-commits-to-allocating-5-of-gdp-to-defence-related-expenditures/id3110204/

    "Estonia is now building a massive defensive line on its border with Russia, including fortified positions with anti tank ditches."

    https://x.com/WarMonitor3/status/1936015937783603244

    and

    "Russia plans to launch over 800 Shahed 136 drones on Ukrainian cities every night in the future."

    https://x.com/WarMonitor3/status/1936052859117682970
  • TazTaz Posts: 19,092
    More Scrappy Doo
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,076
    Taz said:

    More Scrappy Doo

    Sorry, I don't know who or what you are referring to. Not a Scooby.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 55,184
    nova said:

    Nigelb said:

    Norwegian Government commits to allocating 5 % of GDP to defence-related expenditures
    https://www.regjeringen.no/en/aktuelt/norwegian-government-commits-to-allocating-5-of-gdp-to-defence-related-expenditures/id3110204/

    I wonder how creative Governments will be with what constitutes 'defence', if there's pressure to head towards 5% of GDP?
    There is a NATO definition. Back in the coalition days, there was some angst over the UK switching to the NATO definition which includes some intelligence activities and military pensions. So it increased the number for the UK.

    IIRC The UK was one of the last countries in NATO, at that point, not using that definition.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 45,759
    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The Welsh are such snowflakes.

    Tesco says sorry after running ‘meet the Lionesses’ campaign... in Wales

    Supermarket pulls Lucozade’s England promotion for Euro 2025 from Cardiff outlets after shoppers describe it as ‘deeply offensive’

    Tesco has apologised for displaying a “meet the Lionesses” advertising stand in a Cardiff store, which customers described as “deeply offensive”.

    Wales’s women’s team will take part in their first major tournament at this summer’s Euro 2025 and have been drawn in the same group as England.

    Shoppers in Cardiff were outraged by a Lucozade display that offered the chance for fans to meet the Lionesses, whom Wales play on July 13.

    Noel Mooney, the chief executive of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) was one of several people to share their anger on social media, posting on X: “We are Cymru.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/06/20/tesco-lionesses-campaign-wales-england-women-euro-2025/

    So no English people live in Cardiff then? No one in Wales could possibly want to meet the Lionesses? Pathetic grievance culture from the arch nation of grievance.
    Fortunately nobody in Wales supports English football teams.

    Some people in Wales forget Wales is a littoral part of England.
    I knew a guy at Uni who supported Wales at rugby and England at football. Talk about neither fish nor fowl.
    I always root for England in any team sport but I sometimes prefer a foreigner against an English or British player in an individual one. Eg I wouldn't want Cameron Norrie to knock Carlos Alcaraz out of Wimbledon.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,753
    England doing quite well atm with keeping the scoring rate down.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,417
    nova said:

    Nigelb said:

    Norwegian Government commits to allocating 5 % of GDP to defence-related expenditures
    https://www.regjeringen.no/en/aktuelt/norwegian-government-commits-to-allocating-5-of-gdp-to-defence-related-expenditures/id3110204/

    I wonder how creative Governments will be with what constitutes 'defence', if there's pressure to head towards 5% of GDP?
    Well the new NATO norm is pretty open about allowing 1.5% to be spent on "defence related" investment.
    Which seems sensible, as (eg) defence related industrial infrastructure is every bit as important in creating sustainable defence capacity.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,417
    JosiasJessop said:

    Nigelb said:

    Norwegian Government commits to allocating 5 % of GDP to defence-related expenditures
    https://www.regjeringen.no/en/aktuelt/norwegian-government-commits-to-allocating-5-of-gdp-to-defence-related-expenditures/id3110204/

    "Estonia is now building a massive defensive line on its border with Russia, including fortified positions with anti tank ditches."

    https://x.com/WarMonitor3/status/1936015937783603244

    and

    "Russia plans to launch over 800 Shahed 136 drones on Ukrainian cities every night in the future."

    https://x.com/WarMonitor3/status/1936052859117682970
    Russia is apparently to get several thousand N Korean workers to help manufacture such drones.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,753
    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The Welsh are such snowflakes.

    Tesco says sorry after running ‘meet the Lionesses’ campaign... in Wales

    Supermarket pulls Lucozade’s England promotion for Euro 2025 from Cardiff outlets after shoppers describe it as ‘deeply offensive’

    Tesco has apologised for displaying a “meet the Lionesses” advertising stand in a Cardiff store, which customers described as “deeply offensive”.

    Wales’s women’s team will take part in their first major tournament at this summer’s Euro 2025 and have been drawn in the same group as England.

    Shoppers in Cardiff were outraged by a Lucozade display that offered the chance for fans to meet the Lionesses, whom Wales play on July 13.

    Noel Mooney, the chief executive of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) was one of several people to share their anger on social media, posting on X: “We are Cymru.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/06/20/tesco-lionesses-campaign-wales-england-women-euro-2025/

    So no English people live in Cardiff then? No one in Wales could possibly want to meet the Lionesses? Pathetic grievance culture from the arch nation of grievance.
    Of course in cricket the England team is actually the England and Wales team. Maybe they ought to be called the Lionesses as well.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,950
    Nigelb said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    Nigelb said:

    Norwegian Government commits to allocating 5 % of GDP to defence-related expenditures
    https://www.regjeringen.no/en/aktuelt/norwegian-government-commits-to-allocating-5-of-gdp-to-defence-related-expenditures/id3110204/

    "Estonia is now building a massive defensive line on its border with Russia, including fortified positions with anti tank ditches."

    https://x.com/WarMonitor3/status/1936015937783603244

    and

    "Russia plans to launch over 800 Shahed 136 drones on Ukrainian cities every night in the future."

    https://x.com/WarMonitor3/status/1936052859117682970
    Russia is apparently to get several thousand N Korean workers to help manufacture such drones.
    China could easily stop that. They choose not to...
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,169
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    @TSE
    I didnt get the chance on the last thread to thank David Cameron for calling a referendum

    It's okay, 2016 was Dave's Operation Dynamo, in the next few years there will be an Operation Overlord.
    What's happened to the Greensill investigation?
    Evidence of the shrewdness of Cameron's judgement.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,753
    "The Telegraph’s sob story about a family having to cut down on their five holidays to pay school fees despite earning £345k turned out to be fake"

    https://www.thepoke.com/2025/05/27/telegraph-sob-story-about-family-having-to-cut-holidays-to-pay-school-fees-fake/
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,610
    We don't think Ben Stokes consulted Rachel Reeves about his decision to field today, do we? I mean, a decision that catastrophic, its hard to imagine she had nothing to do with it.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,076
    DavidL said:

    We don't think Ben Stokes consulted Rachel Reeves about his decision to field today, do we? I mean, a decision that catastrophic, its hard to imagine she had nothing to do with it.

    It does seem to have had an inflationary effect on the Indian total.

    I expect rapid deflation at some point later tomorrow.

    Are we praying for rain already?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,610
    Dopermean said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    @TSE
    I didnt get the chance on the last thread to thank David Cameron for calling a referendum

    It's okay, 2016 was Dave's Operation Dynamo, in the next few years there will be an Operation Overlord.
    What's happened to the Greensill investigation?
    Evidence of the shrewdness of Cameron's judgement.
    I must say that I was seriously concerned about the very ill judged guarantees that had been given by the Scottish government in respect of that mess but, so far at least, it is a dog that hasn't barked.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,610
    Flatlander said:

    DavidL said:

    We don't think Ben Stokes consulted Rachel Reeves about his decision to field today, do we? I mean, a decision that catastrophic, its hard to imagine she had nothing to do with it.

    It does seem to have had an inflationary effect on the Indian total.

    I expect rapid deflation at some point later tomorrow.

    Are we praying for rain already?
    I fear we are heading for yet another horrendous deficit.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,814
    Flatlander said:

    DavidL said:

    We don't think Ben Stokes consulted Rachel Reeves about his decision to field today, do we? I mean, a decision that catastrophic, its hard to imagine she had nothing to do with it.

    It does seem to have had an inflationary effect on the Indian total.

    I expect rapid deflation at some point later tomorrow.

    Are we praying for rain already?
    That's cute that you think we'll be batting tomorrow.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 6,354
    If the Lords reject the Private Members AD bill, and it comes back to the Commons, does it automatically get parliamentary time, or would the Government have to make time?
  • novanova Posts: 848
    Nigelb said:

    nova said:

    Nigelb said:

    Norwegian Government commits to allocating 5 % of GDP to defence-related expenditures
    https://www.regjeringen.no/en/aktuelt/norwegian-government-commits-to-allocating-5-of-gdp-to-defence-related-expenditures/id3110204/

    I wonder how creative Governments will be with what constitutes 'defence', if there's pressure to head towards 5% of GDP?
    Well the new NATO norm is pretty open about allowing 1.5% to be spent on "defence related" investment.
    Which seems sensible, as (eg) defence related industrial infrastructure is every bit as important in creating sustainable defence capacity.
    I had a look, and so long as we train teachers to use guns, and they accept that they are under military control when required, we're all good. It should be a bonus that it's a popular policy with the US right too.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 5,076
    edited June 20
    BartholomewRoberts said:

    Flatlander said:

    DavidL said:

    We don't think Ben Stokes consulted Rachel Reeves about his decision to field today, do we? I mean, a decision that catastrophic, its hard to imagine she had nothing to do with it.

    It does seem to have had an inflationary effect on the Indian total.

    I expect rapid deflation at some point later tomorrow.

    Are we praying for rain already?
    That's cute that you think we'll be batting tomorrow.
    India have probably got enough already.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,375
    edited June 20
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Alanbrooke said:

    @TSE
    I didnt get the chance on the last thread to thank David Cameron for calling a referendum

    It's okay, 2016 was Dave's Operation Dynamo, in the next few years there will be an Operation Overlord.
    I am not sure you should have been giving an credence to a poll that includes an option that any half way informed observer should know is impossible (Rejoining the Customs Union without rejoining the EU). I would like to say I would have expected better of Yougov but I really wouldn't.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,777
    edited June 20
    DavidL said:

    We don't think Ben Stokes consulted Rachel Reeves about his decision to field today, do we? I mean, a decision that catastrophic, its hard to imagine she had nothing to do with it.

    Maybe he consulted Kim Leadbeater.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,610
    BartholomewRoberts said:

    Flatlander said:

    DavidL said:

    We don't think Ben Stokes consulted Rachel Reeves about his decision to field today, do we? I mean, a decision that catastrophic, its hard to imagine she had nothing to do with it.

    It does seem to have had an inflationary effect on the Indian total.

    I expect rapid deflation at some point later tomorrow.

    Are we praying for rain already?
    That's cute that you think we'll be batting tomorrow.
    Mid day Sunday facing down the barrel of 650+ I fear. Its going to be a grim effort trying to hold on for a draw. First step will be to prevent the follow on.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,375
    edited June 20
    OT

    Sadness in the Tyndall household today as two of my son's classmates were killed in a car crash a few miles from here last night. They had finished sitting their A levels yesterday and I assume were out celebrating. The two lads who died were passengers in a car and the driver has been arrested on a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

    Really sad and all too common. I do wonder whether there is something more that should be done to either educate young drivers or prevent them from carrying passengers for a while.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,651
    I see my call on bowling first = win has gone stunningly well.
    Nasser in Brisbane levels of ouch
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,610
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    OT

    Sadness in the Tyndall household today as two of my son's classmates were killed in a car crash a few miles from here last night. They had finished sitting their A levels yesterday and I assume were out celebrating. The two lads who died were passengers in a car and the driver has been arrested on a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

    Really sad and all too common. I do wonder whether there is something more that should be done to either educate young drivers or prevent them from carrying passengers for a while.

    Or a curfew. As you say its all too common.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 78,417
    Not an imperialist...

    Putin: "We have this old rule: wherever a Russian soldier sets foot, it's ours."
    https://x.com/PolymarketIntel/status/1936095773315268979
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,377
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    OT

    Sadness in the Tyndall household today as two of my son's classmates were killed in a car crash a few miles from here last night. They had finished sitting their A levels yesterday and I assume were out celebrating. The two lads who died were passengers in a car and the driver has been arrested on a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

    Really sad and all too common. I do wonder whether there is something more that should be done to either educate young drivers or prevent them from carrying passengers for a while.

    That's terrible. Very sad to read. My mother used to worry horrendously when I was that age and going out - driven - by other classmates who had just passed their tests. I couldn't understand why she made such a fuss at the time.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,610
    This bowling attack is utterly toothless

    (its not like I'm not trying).
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,777
    Nigelb said:

    Not an imperialist...

    Putin: "We have this old rule: wherever a Russian soldier sets foot, it's ours."
    https://x.com/PolymarketIntel/status/1936095773315268979

    Bad news for Salisbury.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,974
    You ain't never caught a megabit and you ain't no friend of mine...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,974
    williamglenn said:

    Nigelb said:

    Not an imperialist...

    Putin: "We have this old rule: wherever a Russian soldier sets foot, it's ours."
    https://x.com/PolymarketIntel/status/1936095773315268979

    Bad news for Salisbury.
    We'd have to inject them with something to admit it first.

    Maybe a truth Sarum?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,377
    Nigelb said:

    Not an imperialist...

    Putin: "We have this old rule: wherever a Russian soldier sets foot, it's ours."
    https://x.com/PolymarketIntel/status/1936095773315268979

    So the moon belongs to the Americans then?
  • CookieCookie Posts: 15,378
    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "The Telegraph’s sob story about a family having to cut down on their five holidays to pay school fees despite earning £345k turned out to be fake"

    https://www.thepoke.com/2025/05/27/telegraph-sob-story-about-family-having-to-cut-holidays-to-pay-school-fees-fake/

    If it's not careful it'll be losing its reputation as a trusted source of information.
    It actually read as a quietly subversive story. The level of entitlement being expressed didn't exactly portray the fake family in question sympathetically.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 15,378
    For anyone melting in the soporific heat, I can recommend this little number which has perked me up tremendously.
    https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/mango-lassi
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,768
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    OT

    Sadness in the Tyndall household today as two of my son's classmates were killed in a car crash a few miles from here last night. They had finished sitting their A levels yesterday and I assume were out celebrating. The two lads who died were passengers in a car and the driver has been arrested on a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

    Really sad and all too common. I do wonder whether there is something more that should be done to either educate young drivers or prevent them from carrying passengers for a while.

    That is just awful and indescribable pain for their family and friends

    Stricter driving restrictions are needed for young drivers and I thought they were in the pipeline
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,610
    rottenborough said:

    Nigelb said:

    Not an imperialist...

    Putin: "We have this old rule: wherever a Russian soldier sets foot, it's ours."
    https://x.com/PolymarketIntel/status/1936095773315268979

    So the moon belongs to the Americans then?
    Bound to. After all they are led by a lunatic.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,974
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    OT

    Sadness in the Tyndall household today as two of my son's classmates were killed in a car crash a few miles from here last night. They had finished sitting their A levels yesterday and I assume were out celebrating. The two lads who died were passengers in a car and the driver has been arrested on a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

    Really sad and all too common. I do wonder whether there is something more that should be done to either educate young drivers or prevent them from carrying passengers for a while.

    That is just awful and indescribable pain for their family and friends

    Stricter driving restrictions are needed for young drivers and I thought they were in the pipeline
    The issue isn't so much about introducing them as enforcing them.

    We have strict laws on e-bikes and mopeds but that doesn't stop them being misused by illegal riders, often with catastrophic results (Ely, anyone)?
  • PoodleInASlipstreamPoodleInASlipstream Posts: 392
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    OT

    Sadness in the Tyndall household today as two of my son's classmates were killed in a car crash a few miles from here last night. They had finished sitting their A levels yesterday and I assume were out celebrating. The two lads who died were passengers in a car and the driver has been arrested on a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

    Really sad and all too common. I do wonder whether there is something more that should be done to either educate young drivers or prevent them from carrying passengers for a while.

    That's terrible, such an awful waste of young lives.

    I do find it inexplicable that motorcycle/scooter licences are age-gated but car licences are not, when the potential damage from driving a car recklessly is so much greater.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,738
    rottenborough said:

    Nigelb said:

    Not an imperialist...

    Putin: "We have this old rule: wherever a Russian soldier sets foot, it's ours."
    https://x.com/PolymarketIntel/status/1936095773315268979

    So the moon belongs to the Americans then?

    The moon, like elephants, are surely Russian?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,974
    Pant's dropped.*

    England looking horribly exposed.

    *Off his arm, admittedly, but it looks sloppy.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 10,245
    Putin is beginning to publicly back Iran.

    Hmm.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 15,378
    ydoethur said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    OT

    Sadness in the Tyndall household today as two of my son's classmates were killed in a car crash a few miles from here last night. They had finished sitting their A levels yesterday and I assume were out celebrating. The two lads who died were passengers in a car and the driver has been arrested on a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

    Really sad and all too common. I do wonder whether there is something more that should be done to either educate young drivers or prevent them from carrying passengers for a while.

    That is just awful and indescribable pain for their family and friends

    Stricter driving restrictions are needed for young drivers and I thought they were in the pipeline
    The issue isn't so much about introducing them as enforcing them.

    We have strict laws on e-bikes and mopeds but that doesn't stop them being misused by illegal riders, often with catastrophic results (Ely, anyone)?
    There was some absolute fucknut on a trail bike following me down the Bridgewater Canal towpath in Stretford yesterday, emming his engine aggressively like a twatblanket of the first order. It took a great deal of self control not to push him into the canal.
    I caught up with him half a mile later, balaclavad up and engaged in some sort of conference with two cyclists.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 45,759
    Cookie said:

    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "The Telegraph’s sob story about a family having to cut down on their five holidays to pay school fees despite earning £345k turned out to be fake"

    https://www.thepoke.com/2025/05/27/telegraph-sob-story-about-family-having-to-cut-holidays-to-pay-school-fees-fake/

    If it's not careful it'll be losing its reputation as a trusted source of information.
    It actually read as a quietly subversive story. The level of entitlement being expressed didn't exactly portray the fake family in question sympathetically.
    That is true. Perhaps a mole at the Tele.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,210
    Attack at the Iranian Embassy: Two pro-Israel protesters taken to hospital after being set upon - as police arrest six men
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14831671/Attack-Iranian-Embassy-Two-pro-Israel-protesters-taken-hospital-set-police-arrest-six-men.html

    WAIT WAIT WAIT

    Arrests as two assaulted outside Iranian embassy
    ...
    The Met Police have said they believe the altercation happened between protesters supporting and opposing the Iranian monarchy, and there were no links to Israel.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y2r27jn24o
  • MattWMattW Posts: 27,867
    edited June 20
    A genuinely interesting consultation on modest reforms to Council Tax.

    This is a piece and a short video from Martin Lewis, who says they have listened to what he asked them to look at.

    It's cautious to a fault, and very Starmer - it looks like scraping the barnacles off the hull, where imo it needs a new hull. But it's a start with things like making challenging a banding easier, bringing in safeguards to debt collection more in line with utilities, changing default payments to 12 per year not 10, maybe reforming "miss one payment and it is all due NOW", and so on.

    https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2025/06/council-tax-reforms-consultation/
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,768
    ydoethur said:

    Pant's dropped.*

    England looking horribly exposed.

    *Off his arm, admittedly, but it looks sloppy.

    That is so funny !!!
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,722
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    OT

    Sadness in the Tyndall household today as two of my son's classmates were killed in a car crash a few miles from here last night. They had finished sitting their A levels yesterday and I assume were out celebrating. The two lads who died were passengers in a car and the driver has been arrested on a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

    Really sad and all too common. I do wonder whether there is something more that should be done to either educate young drivers or prevent them from carrying passengers for a while.

    That is just awful and indescribable pain for their family and friends

    Stricter driving restrictions are needed for young drivers and I thought they were in the pipeline
    Awful, such a tragic loss. There's evidence that the key thing is preventing young drivers, particularly men, from driving their friends. There's something about the group dynamics that encourages going too fast, showing off... when on their own they are much safer.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 45,759
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    OT

    Sadness in the Tyndall household today as two of my son's classmates were killed in a car crash a few miles from here last night. They had finished sitting their A levels yesterday and I assume were out celebrating. The two lads who died were passengers in a car and the driver has been arrested on a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

    Really sad and all too common. I do wonder whether there is something more that should be done to either educate young drivers or prevent them from carrying passengers for a while.

    Dreadful. Hope your son is ok. One of my son's uni friends hanged himself and it affected him for quite a while.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,738
    In the last two hundred years, the population of Ireland is unchanged, that of the Isle of Man has doubled, that of Scotland is on its way toward having trebled, that of Wales has quadrupled, and of England, more than quintupled.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,944
    IanB2 said:

    In the last two hundred years, the population of Ireland is unchanged, that of the Isle of Man has doubled, that of Scotland is on its way toward having trebled, that of Wales has quadrupled, and of England, more than quintupled.

    It's hard to imagine an Ireland of 25m or so, but it could have been that way.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,461
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    OT

    Sadness in the Tyndall household today as two of my son's classmates were killed in a car crash a few miles from here last night. They had finished sitting their A levels yesterday and I assume were out celebrating. The two lads who died were passengers in a car and the driver has been arrested on a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

    Really sad and all too common. I do wonder whether there is something more that should be done to either educate young drivers or prevent them from carrying passengers for a while.

    A like as a symbol of support, and not for the dreadful news.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,210
    Could JD Vance be AMERICA's NEXT PRESIDENT?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLL4NIttlNc

    Two minutes of very entertaining analysis from Rory & Al on TRiP.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 45,759
    Nigelb said:

    Not an imperialist...

    Putin: "We have this old rule: wherever a Russian soldier sets foot, it's ours."
    https://x.com/PolymarketIntel/status/1936095773315268979

    He's only saying the same as Paul Young.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,738
    kinabalu said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    OT

    Sadness in the Tyndall household today as two of my son's classmates were killed in a car crash a few miles from here last night. They had finished sitting their A levels yesterday and I assume were out celebrating. The two lads who died were passengers in a car and the driver has been arrested on a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

    Really sad and all too common. I do wonder whether there is something more that should be done to either educate young drivers or prevent them from carrying passengers for a while.

    Dreadful. Hope your son is ok. One of my son's uni friends hanged himself and it affected him for quite a while.
    I am sure that it did.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,944
    turbotubbs said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The Welsh are such snowflakes.

    Tesco says sorry after running ‘meet the Lionesses’ campaign... in Wales

    Supermarket pulls Lucozade’s England promotion for Euro 2025 from Cardiff outlets after shoppers describe it as ‘deeply offensive’

    Tesco has apologised for displaying a “meet the Lionesses” advertising stand in a Cardiff store, which customers described as “deeply offensive”.

    Wales’s women’s team will take part in their first major tournament at this summer’s Euro 2025 and have been drawn in the same group as England.

    Shoppers in Cardiff were outraged by a Lucozade display that offered the chance for fans to meet the Lionesses, whom Wales play on July 13.

    Noel Mooney, the chief executive of the Football Association of Wales (FAW) was one of several people to share their anger on social media, posting on X: “We are Cymru.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/06/20/tesco-lionesses-campaign-wales-england-women-euro-2025/

    So no English people live in Cardiff then? No one in Wales could possibly want to meet the Lionesses? Pathetic grievance culture from the arch nation of grievance.
    Whether there are or not Tesco must have a very sensitive PR department to feel the need to apologise for such a thing. Shoppers were 'outraged', really?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 45,759
    ydoethur said:

    Pant's dropped.*

    England looking horribly exposed.

    *Off his arm, admittedly, but it looks sloppy.

    Long way to go. I did the draw at 13 which is looking good. Although I know they just don't happen anymore in test cricket.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,210
    rkrkrk said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    OT

    Sadness in the Tyndall household today as two of my son's classmates were killed in a car crash a few miles from here last night. They had finished sitting their A levels yesterday and I assume were out celebrating. The two lads who died were passengers in a car and the driver has been arrested on a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

    Really sad and all too common. I do wonder whether there is something more that should be done to either educate young drivers or prevent them from carrying passengers for a while.

    That is just awful and indescribable pain for their family and friends

    Stricter driving restrictions are needed for young drivers and I thought they were in the pipeline
    Awful, such a tragic loss. There's evidence that the key thing is preventing young drivers, particularly men, from driving their friends. There's something about the group dynamics that encourages going too fast, showing off... when on their own they are much safer.
    What we need is a motor insurance expert.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,814
    WhisperingOracle said:

    Putin is beginning to publicly back Iran.

    Hmm.

    No surprise there, both a part of the modern Axis of Evil.

    All the more reason for us to publicly back Israel.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,944
    edited June 20
    BartholomewRoberts said:

    WhisperingOracle said:

    Putin is beginning to publicly back Iran.

    Hmm.

    No surprise there, both a part of the modern Axis of Evil.
    Autocracy Inc. Brings together islamic theocratic dictatorships and imperialistic european autocracies, as well as putatively socialist latin american states and more besides.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,631
    wooliedyed said:

    I see my call on bowling first = win has gone stunningly well.
    Nasser in Brisbane levels of ouch

    COME ON INDIA!

    :innocent:
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,395
    Nigelb said:

    Not an imperialist...

    Putin: "We have this old rule: wherever a Russian soldier sets foot, it's ours."
    https://x.com/PolymarketIntel/status/1936095773315268979

    There's no compromising with the current Russian war aims. There's only two options. Win. Or lose.

    So we'd better get on with working out what we need to do to win and then do that.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,631
    BartholomewRoberts said:

    Flatlander said:

    DavidL said:

    We don't think Ben Stokes consulted Rachel Reeves about his decision to field today, do we? I mean, a decision that catastrophic, its hard to imagine she had nothing to do with it.

    It does seem to have had an inflationary effect on the Indian total.

    I expect rapid deflation at some point later tomorrow.

    Are we praying for rain already?
    That's cute that you think we'll be batting tomorrow.
    We're glad to say we're in the UK
    Indian batsmen can bat all day
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,461
    rkrkrk said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    OT

    Sadness in the Tyndall household today as two of my son's classmates were killed in a car crash a few miles from here last night. They had finished sitting their A levels yesterday and I assume were out celebrating. The two lads who died were passengers in a car and the driver has been arrested on a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

    Really sad and all too common. I do wonder whether there is something more that should be done to either educate young drivers or prevent them from carrying passengers for a while.

    That is just awful and indescribable pain for their family and friends

    Stricter driving restrictions are needed for young drivers and I thought they were in the pipeline
    Awful, such a tragic loss. There's evidence that the key thing is preventing young drivers, particularly men, from driving their friends. There's something about the group dynamics that encourages going too fast, showing off... when on their own they are much safer.
    Perhaps in the absence of evidence (other than the early charge) we should perhaps be careful how we apportion blame. Nonetheless I drove like a twat when I was on my own at that age. Isn't there a deficiency in the fear gene of young men?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,395
    WhisperingOracle said:

    Putin is beginning to publicly back Iran.

    Hmm.

    A sign of how weak Trump is, or at least that Putin thinks he is.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,377
    ITV News
    @itvnews

    "It won’t come in my lifetime, I won’t live long enough, but I am so relieved that it will help future generations to be able to look forward with hope and confidence to a good death," Dame Esther Rantzen shares with
    @PaulBrandITV
    her joy at seeing MPs vote in favour of the assisted dying bill

    https://x.com/itvnews/status/1936087934614008319
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 31,210
    Palestine Action to be banned after RAF base break in
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn81g4e0nlyo

    Without going the full Leon, I was surprised at how vehemently these activists were condemned on social media. Rather than framed in terms of the current Middle East kerfuffle, the split was mainly whether the charge should be terrorism or treason.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,377
    LostPassword said:

    WhisperingOracle said:

    Putin is beginning to publicly back Iran.

    Hmm.

    A sign of how weak Trump is, or at least that Putin thinks he is.
    Doesn't Putin need Iranian drones?
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,375
    kinabalu said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    OT

    Sadness in the Tyndall household today as two of my son's classmates were killed in a car crash a few miles from here last night. They had finished sitting their A levels yesterday and I assume were out celebrating. The two lads who died were passengers in a car and the driver has been arrested on a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

    Really sad and all too common. I do wonder whether there is something more that should be done to either educate young drivers or prevent them from carrying passengers for a while.

    Dreadful. Hope your son is ok. One of my son's uni friends hanged himself and it affected him for quite a while.
    Thanks Kinabalu. We are keeping an eye on him but it is a slightly unreal situation for him at the moment. He wasn't close friends with the lads but he did know them fairly well as they did some of the same subjects at A level. So he is not grieving as he would for a close friend but is still rather shocked and saddened.

    Sadly it may turn out to be 4 young lives ruined as an 18 year old girl and 18 year old boy (the drivers of the two cars involved) were arrested over the deaths.
  • isamisam Posts: 42,027
    Worth noting that Keir Starmer defended an activist who broke into an RAF base to set fire to aircraft. Starmer claimed his client was legally justified because it might stop a war crime.

    If he'd won that argument in 2004, what happened at Brize Norton would be perfectly legal.

    https://x.com/kemibadenoch/status/1936100131574587419?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,631
    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    Palestine Action to be banned after RAF base break in
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn81g4e0nlyo

    Without going the full Leon, I was surprised at how vehemently these activists were condemned on social media. Rather than framed in terms of the current Middle East kerfuffle, the split was mainly whether the charge should be terrorism or treason.

    I am surprised we even had any planes to vandalise.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,461
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    kinabalu said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    OT

    Sadness in the Tyndall household today as two of my son's classmates were killed in a car crash a few miles from here last night. They had finished sitting their A levels yesterday and I assume were out celebrating. The two lads who died were passengers in a car and the driver has been arrested on a charge of causing death by dangerous driving.

    Really sad and all too common. I do wonder whether there is something more that should be done to either educate young drivers or prevent them from carrying passengers for a while.

    Dreadful. Hope your son is ok. One of my son's uni friends hanged himself and it affected him for quite a while.
    Thanks Kinabalu. We are keeping an eye on him but it is a slightly unreal situation for him at the moment. He wasn't close friends with the lads but he did know them fairly well as they did some of the same subjects at A level. So he is not grieving as he would for a close friend but is still rather shocked and saddened.

    Sadly it may turn out to be 4 young lives ruined as an 18 year old girl and 18 year old boy (the drivers of the two cars involved) were arrested over the deaths.
    Wouldn't the arrests be standard police protocol under such tragic circumstances?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 45,759
    LostPassword said:

    WhisperingOracle said:

    Putin is beginning to publicly back Iran.

    Hmm.

    A sign of how weak Trump is, or at least that Putin thinks he is.
    There's such a chasm between his self-image as a tough and savvy dealmaker and the out of his depth figure of fun reality.

    Except it's no fun of course. Because of his position he has to be pandered to and 'managed'. Which in the opposite of a virtuous circle feeds back into the ludicrous self-image.

    Where it all ends with him, I do not know.
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