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  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 14,525
    TOPPING said:

    If I was the Cons' campaign manager (the horror) I would ban talk of anything other than the economy.

    Get this right, get everything right.

    Could be the slogan.

    Ban all talk about anything other than how they are going to fix the economy. Because everything leads off from or follows a healthy economy. And point out Lab's flaws in this area.

    Would be my plan.

    Would you have to know what counts as fixing it, and how to fix it according to that measure WRT tax, spend, deficit, debt, inflation, house prices and interest rates or would you join Reform in skipping that bit?
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,634
    Cookie said:

    Using today's photo quota to post a pic I found on the internet. I love my local radio telescope - always makes me happy to see it - but I've never seen this view of it before.

    My late father was evacuated to a market garden cottage in the village of Goostrey during the war, and kept a great fondness for the area, although obviously that pre-dated the telescope.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,704
    @kaitlancollins
    Trump cements the break with Musk, saying Elon only had problems with the bill over the electric vehicle mandate and that he was fully aware what was in it. “He knew every aspect of this bill. And he never had a problem until right after he left…I’m very disappointed with Elon. I helped him a lot.”
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,551
    Scott_xP said:

    @kaitlancollins
    Trump cements the break with Musk, saying Elon only had problems with the bill over the electric vehicle mandate and that he was fully aware what was in it. “He knew every aspect of this bill. And he never had a problem until right after he left…I’m very disappointed with Elon. I helped him a lot.”

    "I helped him a lot" lol.
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,602
    edited June 5
    TOPPING said:

    If I was the Cons' campaign manager (the horror) I would ban talk of anything other than the economy.

    Get this right, get everything right.

    Could be the slogan.

    Ban all talk about anything other than how they are going to fix the economy. Because everything leads off from or follows a healthy economy. And point out Lab's flaws in this area.

    Would be my plan.

    Two obvious objections to that strategy:

    a) you had 14 years
    b) Liz Truss.

    Fair or not, I can't see that being a winning strategy right now.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,161
    ....
    TOPPING said:

    If I was the Cons' campaign manager (the horror) I would ban talk of anything other than the economy.

    Get this right, get everything right.

    Could be the slogan.

    Ban all talk about anything other than how they are going to fix the economy. Because everything leads off from or follows a healthy economy. And point out Lab's flaws in this area.

    Would be my plan.

    Good luck with that. It wasn't going gangbusters before September 2022, but afterwards...

    Oh and no one believed in the notion of the golden legacy either.

    Best to just pretend Liz Truss was a LibDem plant.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,148

    Scott_xP said:

    @kaitlancollins
    Trump cements the break with Musk, saying Elon only had problems with the bill over the electric vehicle mandate and that he was fully aware what was in it. “He knew every aspect of this bill. And he never had a problem until right after he left…I’m very disappointed with Elon. I helped him a lot.”

    "I helped him a lot" lol.
    Come on. He bought one of his cars.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,922
    Scott_xP said:

    @kaitlancollins
    Trump cements the break with Musk, saying Elon only had problems with the bill over the electric vehicle mandate and that he was fully aware what was in it. “He knew every aspect of this bill. And he never had a problem until right after he left…I’m very disappointed with Elon. I helped him a lot.”

    When txxxxxs fall out ……
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,393
    "Who will win the Hamilton by-election?
    It is unlikely, but not impossible, that Reform could pull off a massive upset in Scotland.
    By Ben Walker"

    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/polling/2025/06/who-will-win-the-hamilton-by-election
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,704
    @elonmusk
    Whatever.

    Keep the EV/solar incentive cuts in the bill, even though no oil & gas subsidies are touched (very unfair!!), but ditch the MOUNTAIN of DISGUSTING PORK in the bill.

    In the entire history of civilization, there has never been legislation that both big and beautiful. Everyone knows this!

    Either you get a big and ugly bill or a slim and beautiful bill.

    Slim and beautiful is the way.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,704
    @ZiaYusufUK
    11 months ago I became Chairman of Reform. I’ve worked full time as a volunteer to take the party from 14 to 30%, quadrupled its membership and delivered historic electoral results.

    I no longer believe working to get a Reform government elected is a good use of my time, and hereby resign the office.
  • MJWMJW Posts: 2,020
    Fishing said:

    TOPPING said:

    If I was the Cons' campaign manager (the horror) I would ban talk of anything other than the economy.

    Get this right, get everything right.

    Could be the slogan.

    Ban all talk about anything other than how they are going to fix the economy. Because everything leads off from or follows a healthy economy. And point out Lab's flaws in this area.

    Would be my plan.

    Two obvious objections to that strategy:

    a) you had 14 years
    b) Liz Truss.

    Fair or not, I can't see that being a winning strategy right now.
    The other point in addition to this is that beyond tax (which is not really a serious option due to the state of the public realm, finances and demographics) the Conservatives pulling the most obvious levers to promote growth would either be a) ones Labour is already pulling and getting the scars for or b) stuff that they remain implaccably opposed to as it would mean confessing that the last 10 years have been a destructive waste of time and that it's mostly the result of doing things Conservative headbangers and Nigel Farage loudly advocated for.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,014
    Scott_xP said:

    @alaynatreene

    Trump addressing Elon’s criticism of the BBB for the first time —

    He says: “Elon & I *had* a great relationship, I don’t know if we will anymore”

    Trump said he’d rather Musk have criticized him and not the spending bill

    “I was very surprised” by Musk’s attacks, POTUS says

    https://x.com/alaynatreene/status/1930656698563273083

    I stick with my assertion that by year end, the Trump Cabinet will look nothing like at that the start of the year.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,704

    Scott_xP said:

    @alaynatreene

    Trump addressing Elon’s criticism of the BBB for the first time —

    He says: “Elon & I *had* a great relationship, I don’t know if we will anymore”

    Trump said he’d rather Musk have criticized him and not the spending bill

    “I was very surprised” by Musk’s attacks, POTUS says

    https://x.com/alaynatreene/status/1930656698563273083

    I stick with my assertion that by year end, the Trump Cabinet will look nothing like at that the start of the year.
    Probably true. Probably irrelevant
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,014
    Scott_xP said:

    @ZiaYusufUK
    11 months ago I became Chairman of Reform. I’ve worked full time as a volunteer to take the party from 14 to 30%, quadrupled its membership and delivered historic electoral results.

    I no longer believe working to get a Reform government elected is a good use of my time, and hereby resign the office.

    WTF?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,161
    TOPPING said:

    Taz said:

    Back on London, Ant Middleton has come out in support of Tommy R so that might derail him with Reform if Farage holds his Yaxley sceptical line

    Tommy was kicked out of Hawksmoor steak house today:

    https://x.com/guramitsingh01/status/1930597958665310267
    For being Tommy Robinson, or was there more to it ?
    Hadn't been vaccinated.
    What? The staff hadn't been vaccinated.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,704
    @PaulBrandITV

    BREAKING: Zia Yusuf resigns as Chairman of Reform saying it is “no longer a good use of my time”.

    He follows Rupert Lowe in becoming the second high profile member of the party to leave since last year’s election.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,058
    Scott_xP said:

    @ZiaYusufUK
    11 months ago I became Chairman of Reform. I’ve worked full time as a volunteer to take the party from 14 to 30%, quadrupled its membership and delivered historic electoral results.

    I no longer believe working to get a Reform government elected is a good use of my time, and hereby resign the office.

    Lmao, feedback from Hamilton must be stunning
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,856

    Taz said:

    I see that Reform are doubling down on 'ban the burqa'/'don't be allowed to conceal face in public' nonsense.

    Curious if they'd propose the banning of motorcycle helmets then?

    The burqa is a horrid, misogynistic garment but we shouldn't ban that which we dislike, and its not illegal to wear a balaclava or motorcycle helmet or otherwise conceal the face in most public situations.

    This is where I really have an issue with Reform and the like. Stuff like this. It’s just an Islamophobic dog whistle. I also don’t see it’s anyones business to tell people they can’t wear one.
    I agree, but I'm not keen on burqas on people who are working in health care situations..... nurses, doctors etc. I do think it makes communication difficult. Trying to recall if I've ever worked with a pharmacist who wore one and don't think I have. I've tried to advise a lady wearing one about something or other on occasion and to be fair I think the language was the bigger problem.
    Face coverings (other than surgical masks!) are against my hospitals dress code. Headscarves are fine.
  • eekeek Posts: 30,225
    Scott_xP said:

    @PaulBrandITV

    BREAKING: Zia Yusuf resigns as Chairman of Reform saying it is “no longer a good use of my time”.

    He follows Rupert Lowe in becoming the second high profile member of the party to leave since last year’s election.

    Wtf happened given his tweets from Kent last night
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,275
    Scott_xP said:

    @ZiaYusufUK
    11 months ago I became Chairman of Reform. I’ve worked full time as a volunteer to take the party from 14 to 30%, quadrupled its membership and delivered historic electoral results.

    I no longer believe working to get a Reform government elected is a good use of my time, and hereby resign the office.

    A reaction to the burqa comments by a couple of MPs?

    A reaction to Hamilton?

    Falling out with Farage as surely as night follows day?
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,344
    Scott_xP said:

    @kaitlancollins
    Trump cements the break with Musk, saying Elon only had problems with the bill over the electric vehicle mandate and that he was fully aware what was in it. “He knew every aspect of this bill. And he never had a problem until right after he left…I’m very disappointed with Elon. I helped him a lot.”

    I'm sure Elon will react to this in a calm and balanced manner.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 1,128
    Scott_xP said:

    @ZiaYusufUK
    11 months ago I became Chairman of Reform. I’ve worked full time as a volunteer to take the party from 14 to 30%, quadrupled its membership and delivered historic electoral results.

    I no longer believe working to get a Reform government elected is a good use of my time, and hereby resign the office.

    Over the burqa row?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,058
    edited June 5
    eek said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @PaulBrandITV

    BREAKING: Zia Yusuf resigns as Chairman of Reform saying it is “no longer a good use of my time”.

    He follows Rupert Lowe in becoming the second high profile member of the party to leave since last year’s election.

    Wtf happened given his tweets from Kent last night
    Either somethings about to come out or Nigel and he have had a flaming row over Pochin and the Burqa
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,704
    meanwhile Musk is livetweeting Donny in the Oval Office

    @elonmusk

    False, this bill was never shown to me even once and was passed in the dead of night so fast that almost no one in Congress could even read it!
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 45,577
    Scott_xP said:

    @elonmusk
    Whatever.

    Keep the EV/solar incentive cuts in the bill, even though no oil & gas subsidies are touched (very unfair!!), but ditch the MOUNTAIN of DISGUSTING PORK in the bill.

    In the entire history of civilization, there has never been legislation that both big and beautiful. Everyone knows this!

    Either you get a big and ugly bill or a slim and beautiful bill.

    Slim and beautiful is the way.

    I've always liked Elon Musk.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 14,525
    Scott_xP said:

    @ZiaYusufUK
    11 months ago I became Chairman of Reform. I’ve worked full time as a volunteer to take the party from 14 to 30%, quadrupled its membership and delivered historic electoral results.

    I no longer believe working to get a Reform government elected is a good use of my time, and hereby resign the office.

    Interesting. He's been all over the media in the last few days, and he wasn't very good.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,856
    Scott_xP said:

    @PaulBrandITV

    BREAKING: Zia Yusuf resigns as Chairman of Reform saying it is “no longer a good use of my time”.

    He follows Rupert Lowe in becoming the second high profile member of the party to leave since last year’s election.

    They're just copying the Trump White House personnel policy of sacking/resigning after a few months, with added acrimony.

    The problem with a Personality Cult is that it is intrinsically unstable. Sooner or later there's a disagreement with the Dear Leader, and then the purge.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,275
    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @PaulBrandITV

    BREAKING: Zia Yusuf resigns as Chairman of Reform saying it is “no longer a good use of my time”.

    He follows Rupert Lowe in becoming the second high profile member of the party to leave since last year’s election.

    They're just copying the Trump White House personnel policy of sacking/resigning after a few months, with added acrimony.

    The problem with a Personality Cult is that it is intrinsically unstable. Sooner or later there's a disagreement with the Dear Leader, and then the purge.
    This seems to be more a falling with Pochin and Anderson than the Dear Leader, who seems to have stayed quiet while everyone else squabbles.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 10,099
    Dopermean said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @ZiaYusufUK
    11 months ago I became Chairman of Reform. I’ve worked full time as a volunteer to take the party from 14 to 30%, quadrupled its membership and delivered historic electoral results.

    I no longer believe working to get a Reform government elected is a good use of my time, and hereby resign the office.

    Over the burqa row?
    Could be. Maybe Nigel communicated that Reform were going to go with it, but no one else was even consulted.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,058
    'Working to get a Reform government elected is not a good use of my time'
    This is one HELL of a row that's happened today
  • vikvik Posts: 466

    Scott_xP said:

    @alaynatreene

    Trump addressing Elon’s criticism of the BBB for the first time —

    He says: “Elon & I *had* a great relationship, I don’t know if we will anymore”

    Trump said he’d rather Musk have criticized him and not the spending bill

    “I was very surprised” by Musk’s attacks, POTUS says

    https://x.com/alaynatreene/status/1930656698563273083

    I stick with my assertion that by year end, the Trump Cabinet will look nothing like at that the start of the year.
    Elon is different from the rest of the Cabinet because he has something to go back to (being CEO of Tesla).

    What is Pete Hegseth or Pam Bondi going to do, if they resign from the Cabinet ? They'll go back to being nobodies. And Trump certainly won't fire them as long as they continue to be loyal bootlickers & do everything he says.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,148

    Dopermean said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @ZiaYusufUK
    11 months ago I became Chairman of Reform. I’ve worked full time as a volunteer to take the party from 14 to 30%, quadrupled its membership and delivered historic electoral results.

    I no longer believe working to get a Reform government elected is a good use of my time, and hereby resign the office.

    Over the burqa row?
    Could be. Maybe Nigel communicated that Reform were going to go with it, but no one else was even consulted.
    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    5m
    Suspect there’s a lot more to be revealed about this. But in the short term it will be seen as a victory for those demanding Reform adopts more extreme positions.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,058
    Get the popcorn out lads and lasses, I don't see Yusuf as a goes quietly type
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,148
    Reform's Cabinet under Farage is going to be one resignation or firing after another if the UK is stupid enough to put him in power.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,704
    After consoling Putin yesterday on the loss of his bombers, today Donny commiserates that the Nazis lost WW2...

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lqupq2vswf2h
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,846
    So what happens to DOGE-UK now?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,694
    Scott_xP said:

    meanwhile Musk is livetweeting Donny in the Oval Office

    @elonmusk

    False, this bill was never shown to me even once and was passed in the dead of night so fast that almost no one in Congress could even read it!

    Musky Baby is so high on drugs I wouldn't trust his memory on such matters. And even if his memory is not drug-addled, he lies constantly anyway. A totally untrustworthy man; he would be a tragicomic figure if he was not quite so nasty.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,704

    BREAKING: Casino Royale resigns as a regular poster on politicalbetting.com saying it is “no longer a good use of my time”.

    We Rate Flounces

    1/10

    Must try harder...
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,275

    Reform's Cabinet under Farage is going to be one resignation or firing after another if the UK is stupid enough to put him in power.

    New economic strategy: Popcorn sales will lead to GDP growth.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,856

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @PaulBrandITV

    BREAKING: Zia Yusuf resigns as Chairman of Reform saying it is “no longer a good use of my time”.

    He follows Rupert Lowe in becoming the second high profile member of the party to leave since last year’s election.

    They're just copying the Trump White House personnel policy of sacking/resigning after a few months, with added acrimony.

    The problem with a Personality Cult is that it is intrinsically unstable. Sooner or later there's a disagreement with the Dear Leader, and then the purge.
    This seems to be more a falling with Pochin and Anderson than the Dear Leader, who seems to have stayed quiet while everyone else squabbles.
    The Dear Leader has minions to be his Beria.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,148
    Scott_xP said:

    meanwhile Musk is livetweeting Donny in the Oval Office

    @elonmusk

    False, this bill was never shown to me even once and was passed in the dead of night so fast that almost no one in Congress could even read it!

    Members of congress are already saying there are sections they didn't see or get around to reading. This is a joke, but what can you expect from today's GOP.
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,344
    edited June 5
    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @PaulBrandITV

    BREAKING: Zia Yusuf resigns as Chairman of Reform saying it is “no longer a good use of my time”.

    He follows Rupert Lowe in becoming the second high profile member of the party to leave since last year’s election.

    They're just copying the Trump White House personnel policy of sacking/resigning after a few months, with added acrimony.

    The problem with a Personality Cult is that it is intrinsically unstable. Sooner or later there's a disagreement with the Dear Leader, and then the purge.
    It's why we can be certain a Farage 2028/9 government will fail pretty quickly.

    There will be zero relevant parliamentary experience, deep mistrust of the civil service, and cabinet members constantly falling out of favour with Farage.

    You can run an opposition as a one-man band. You can't run a country as one. They'll just have no idea how to make policy and write laws.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,704

    Scott_xP said:

    meanwhile Musk is livetweeting Donny in the Oval Office

    @elonmusk

    False, this bill was never shown to me even once and was passed in the dead of night so fast that almost no one in Congress could even read it!

    Musky Baby is so high on drugs I wouldn't trust his memory on such matters. And even if his memory is not drug-addled, he lies constantly anyway. A totally untrustworthy man; he would be a tragicomic figure if he was not quite so nasty.
    I guess it's a coincidence that the Tesla stock ticker is in vertical freefall right now too :)
  • TazTaz Posts: 18,752
    Farage with a glowing tribute to Zia Yususf.

    I didn’t expect that.

    https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1930666040062525622?s=61
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,557

    Reform's Cabinet under Farage is going to be one resignation or firing after another if the UK is stupid enough to put him in power.

    A bet on him becoming PM and then losing a confidence vote in parliament because his own MPs vote against him might be good value.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,148
    Luke Tryl‬
    @luketryl.bsky.social‬
    · 1m
    While it’s unlikely many are paying attention to who is Reform chairman, the difference in going from 15% party off the back of Farage’s personal appeal to a 30% party of govt is passing a credibility test - getting a rep as the party of infighting/drama after losing Lowe and Yusuf will stop that
  • vikvik Posts: 466

    Dopermean said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @ZiaYusufUK
    11 months ago I became Chairman of Reform. I’ve worked full time as a volunteer to take the party from 14 to 30%, quadrupled its membership and delivered historic electoral results.

    I no longer believe working to get a Reform government elected is a good use of my time, and hereby resign the office.

    Over the burqa row?
    Could be. Maybe Nigel communicated that Reform were going to go with it, but no one else was even consulted.
    Yeah, it seems to be huge huge row.

    Honestly, I think his position was untenable. Sarah Pochin is a star recruit for Reform & Farage would have backed Sarah over Zia.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/reform-farage-pochin-yusuf-burqa-ban-b2764158.html
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,058
    Taz said:

    Farage with a glowing tribute to Zia Yususf.

    I didn’t expect that.

    https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1930666040062525622?s=61

    'Please don't tell them about the skellingtons'
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,014

    Nigelb said:

    "Conor Burns, a fomer Tory minister who lost his seat at the election, has welcomed Mel Stride’s speech this morning, but urged the party to go further – and rule out Liz Truss ever again being allowed to stand as a candidate for the Conservatives."

    Sensible request. At the moment the Tories are in a complete muddle. They don't know if they're pro/anti Truss, pro/anti Trump, pro/anti Farage... If they don't know how the hell are the voters supposed to work if they're deserving of a vote? Some clarity is desperately needed.
    They should instigate a rule that anybody who has been PM/party leader or stood and failed to be can never apply again.

    Obligatory new blood. You only stand when you think you can win.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,993

    Scott_xP said:

    @ZiaYusufUK
    11 months ago I became Chairman of Reform. I’ve worked full time as a volunteer to take the party from 14 to 30%, quadrupled its membership and delivered historic electoral results.

    I no longer believe working to get a Reform government elected is a good use of my time, and hereby resign the office.

    WTF?
    Embarrassed by his tweet ?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,856

    Nigelb said:

    "Conor Burns, a fomer Tory minister who lost his seat at the election, has welcomed Mel Stride’s speech this morning, but urged the party to go further – and rule out Liz Truss ever again being allowed to stand as a candidate for the Conservatives."

    Sensible request. At the moment the Tories are in a complete muddle. They don't know if they're pro/anti Truss, pro/anti Trump, pro/anti Farage... If they don't know how the hell are the voters supposed to work if they're deserving of a vote? Some clarity is desperately needed.
    They should instigate a rule that anybody who has been PM/party leader or stood and failed to be can never apply again.

    Obligatory new blood. You only stand when you think you can win.
    A great

    Nigelb said:

    "Conor Burns, a fomer Tory minister who lost his seat at the election, has welcomed Mel Stride’s speech this morning, but urged the party to go further – and rule out Liz Truss ever again being allowed to stand as a candidate for the Conservatives."

    Sensible request. At the moment the Tories are in a complete muddle. They don't know if they're pro/anti Truss, pro/anti Trump, pro/anti Farage... If they don't know how the hell are the voters supposed to work if they're deserving of a vote? Some clarity is desperately needed.
    They should instigate a rule that anybody who has been PM/party leader or stood and failed to be can never apply again.

    Obligatory new blood. You only stand when you think you can win.
    A great suggestion. It would have kept out Truss, Sunak and Johnson.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,846
    edited June 5
    Taz said:

    Farage with a glowing tribute to Zia Yususf.

    I didn’t expect that.

    https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1930666040062525622?s=61

    Whatever else he is, Nigel is a pro at this sort of thing.

    And "dispose of X, then praise X" is standard divide-and-rule office politics. If this is a victory for the racist wing of Reform, it must be made clear to than that they haven't really won.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,574
    Taz said:

    Another great day in the BBC story...


    Times Radio
    @TimesRadio
    ·
    9h
    📢NEWS📢

    Two of Britain’s best-known news presenters, Jo Coburn and Stephen Sackur, are joining Times Radio.

    Scrap,the license fee let the Beeb seek its funding in the market place.

    Good luck to the two of them. They’re fine journalist/presenters.
    Licence.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,161

    Scott_xP said:

    @ZiaYusufUK
    11 months ago I became Chairman of Reform. I’ve worked full time as a volunteer to take the party from 14 to 30%, quadrupled its membership and delivered historic electoral results.

    I no longer believe working to get a Reform government elected is a good use of my time, and hereby resign the office.

    A reaction to the burqa comments by a couple of MPs?

    A reaction to Hamilton?

    Falling out with Farage as surely as night follows day?
    The burqa comment? Surely not. He's been lying with enough dogs to notice the fleas for months.

    Hamilton? I've never seen the musical.

    So it must be Farage.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,454
    Leon said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/04/ive-learned-a-new-word-and-now-im-seeing-the-people-it-describes-everywhere

    People were slagging Adrian Chiles's columns a while back. I've always enjoyed his writing TBH and this week's column is especially good. I even learned something useful from it.

    Very good article, and a very useful word.
    The PB Centrist Dads have just discovered the word "edgelord", along with their living deity, Adrian Chiles
    Yep. I will freely admit that it was a new one on me. Quite like it. Adrian Chiles has always struck me as perfectly ok without being particularly interesting or exciting.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,634
    edited June 5

    BREAKING: Casino Royale resigns as a regular poster on politicalbetting.com saying it is “no longer a good use of my time”.

    "I spent a lot of my time on PB, Electoral Calculus and Octordle Rescue. The rest I just squandered"
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,993
    I missed this last month.
    Remarkable guy who did an awful lot more than design the H-bomb..

    Richard Garwin obituary: creator of the hydrogen bomb
    Brilliant physicist who turned a crude design into something close to a blueprint in a couple of weeks, dies aged 97
    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/obituaries/article/richard-garwin-obituary-creator-of-the-hydrogen-bomb-zxtjjzkb2
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,058

    Scott_xP said:

    @ZiaYusufUK
    11 months ago I became Chairman of Reform. I’ve worked full time as a volunteer to take the party from 14 to 30%, quadrupled its membership and delivered historic electoral results.

    I no longer believe working to get a Reform government elected is a good use of my time, and hereby resign the office.

    A reaction to the burqa comments by a couple of MPs?

    A reaction to Hamilton?

    Falling out with Farage as surely as night follows day?
    The burqa comment? Surely not. He's been lying with enough dogs to notice the fleas for months.

    Hamilton? I've never seen the musical.

    So it must be Farage.
    There were some X rumours about an hour ago Yusuf was being partly sidelined because of his responses on Burqa abd media performance. If true he's obviously done his nut and gone for the FU
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,856
    Scott_xP said:

    After consoling Putin yesterday on the loss of his bombers, today Donny commiserates that the Nazis lost WW2...

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lqupq2vswf2h

    Extraordinary, even for Trump!
  • Taz said:

    Another great day in the BBC story...


    Times Radio
    @TimesRadio
    ·
    9h
    📢NEWS📢

    Two of Britain’s best-known news presenters, Jo Coburn and Stephen Sackur, are joining Times Radio.

    Scrap,the license fee let the Beeb seek its funding in the market place.

    Good luck to the two of them. They’re fine journalist/presenters.
    Licence.
    * makes mental note to misspell this from now on *
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 45,577

    Reform's Cabinet under Farage is going to be one resignation or firing after another if the UK is stupid enough to put him in power.

    A bet on him becoming PM and then losing a confidence vote in parliament because his own MPs vote against him might be good value.
    Is that offered anywhere? It's rather bespoke.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,704
    @mmcassella

    The Trump-Musk war of words appears to be escalating

    https://x.com/mmcassella/status/1930668594284626021
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,574
    Fishing said:

    TOPPING said:

    If I was the Cons' campaign manager (the horror) I would ban talk of anything other than the economy.

    Get this right, get everything right.

    Could be the slogan.

    Ban all talk about anything other than how they are going to fix the economy. Because everything leads off from or follows a healthy economy. And point out Lab's flaws in this area.

    Would be my plan.

    Two obvious objections to that strategy:

    a) you had 14 years
    b) Liz Truss.

    Fair or not, I can't see that being a winning strategy right now.
    The Tories are AFAIK ahead on the economy at the minute. And the only people who seem to mention Truss at the moment are Keir Starmer, and bizarrely, Sunakite Tories like Stride and Philp. Quite why they feel the need to do that when they are meant to be in opposition to a Labour Government rather than pursuing internecine Tory battles like it's still the dying days of the last Government is quite beyond me. Old habits die hard I suppose.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,704
    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    After consoling Putin yesterday on the loss of his bombers, today Donny commiserates that the Nazis lost WW2...

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lqupq2vswf2h

    Extraordinary, even for Trump!
    The guy is not mentally competent
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,058
    Note to Nigel
    The way we know someone is not genuinely sorry about something is when they start a tweet with 'i am genuinely sorry that Zia Yusuf' etc etc
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,161
    Scott_xP said:

    BREAKING: Casino Royale resigns as a regular poster on politicalbetting.com saying it is “no longer a good use of my time”.

    We Rate Flounces

    1/10

    Must try harder...
    Mine are better than that!

    He needs lessons from @Leon
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,634
    Scott_xP said:

    @adamjschwarz.bsky.social‬

    German Chancellor Merz sets the record straight after Trump tries to draw moral equivalence between Russia and Ukrainian actions:

    "Ukraine is only targeting military targets. Not civilians, not private [property], not energy infrastructure. This is the difference."

    https://bsky.app/profile/adamjschwarz.bsky.social/post/3lquqlqpzm22e

    When is JD along to call Merz ungrateful?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,412
    Dopermean said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @ZiaYusufUK
    11 months ago I became Chairman of Reform. I’ve worked full time as a volunteer to take the party from 14 to 30%, quadrupled its membership and delivered historic electoral results.

    I no longer believe working to get a Reform government elected is a good use of my time, and hereby resign the office.

    Over the burqa row?
    The sequel to Sorority Row?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,058
    https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/1930670632737341558?s=19

    Not rushing back to rejoin them I'd say
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,275
    Scott_xP said:

    After consoling Putin yesterday on the loss of his bombers, today Donny commiserates that the Nazis lost WW2...

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lqupq2vswf2h

    I've said a long time that too many GOP voters believe the wrong side won WWII, now it seems it includes the US POTUS.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,148
    Pro_Rata said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @adamjschwarz.bsky.social‬

    German Chancellor Merz sets the record straight after Trump tries to draw moral equivalence between Russia and Ukrainian actions:

    "Ukraine is only targeting military targets. Not civilians, not private [property], not energy infrastructure. This is the difference."

    https://bsky.app/profile/adamjschwarz.bsky.social/post/3lquqlqpzm22e

    When is JD along to call Merz ungrateful?
    Merz wore a suit so Bad Dog Vance is back in his kennel.

  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,704
    So, just how badly is the Mad King going to shaft his ex best bud now?

    300% tariffs on all EVs from any manufacturer whose name starts with a T?

    All SpaceX contracts transferred to Boeing?

    Starlink illegal in all 50 states?

    Maybe just deport him to South Africa...
  • vikvik Posts: 466
    Scott_xP said:

    @kaitlancollins
    Trump cements the break with Musk, saying Elon only had problems with the bill over the electric vehicle mandate and that he was fully aware what was in it. “He knew every aspect of this bill. And he never had a problem until right after he left…I’m very disappointed with Elon. I helped him a lot.”

    Axios has an article giving details on some of the intrigue which led to the breakup.

    In addition to being annoyed by the end of the EV credits, Musk is also unhappy because:
    - His choice to lead NASA was rejected.
    - His Starlink system wasn't picked by the FAA for air-traffic control.
    - His tenure as "special government employee" at DOGE wasn't extended.

    Somewhat surprisingly (for the Trump administration), the Starlink proposal & tenure extension were refused because of "ethical concerns" and not wanting to violate rules.

    https://www.axios.com/2025/06/03/elon-musk-trump-white-house-relationship
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 55,557

    Scott_xP said:

    After consoling Putin yesterday on the loss of his bombers, today Donny commiserates that the Nazis lost WW2...

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lqupq2vswf2h

    I've said a long time that too many GOP voters believe the wrong side won WWII, now it seems it includes the US POTUS.
    He's just trying to prove how anti-Russian he is.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,412
    OK, so who will be the next Reform big-wig to resign?

    :lol:
  • RattersRatters Posts: 1,344
    Scott_xP said:

    So, just how badly is the Mad King going to shaft his ex best bud now?

    300% tariffs on all EVs from any manufacturer whose name starts with a T?

    All SpaceX contracts transferred to Boeing?

    Starlink illegal in all 50 states?

    Maybe just deport him to South Africa...

    Does Trump want to really piss off the richest man in the world who is equally thin skinned and petty?

    I'd have thought a rare case where ignoring Musk is his best strategy.

    So you're probably right.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,633
    It looks like the baddies are in retreat.

    Who knows Starmer may still grow a backbone and take us back into the EU. Perhaps this nation of strangers will get together and reject these foul racists Srarmer seems determined to pay lip service to
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,058

    OK, so who will be the next Reform big-wig to resign?

    :lol:

    Anderson must have itchy feet by now
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,161
    ...

    OK, so who will be the next Reform big-wig to resign?

    :lol:

    Nigel never lasts long.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 24,275
    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    DEAN: What's the tariff on bananas?

    LUTNICK: Generally 10%

    DEAN: Walmart has already increased the cost of bananas by 8%

    LUTNICK: If you build in America, there is no tariff

    DEAN: We cannot build bananas in America

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lqurvhnffc2v

    They can be grown in America though and are - primarily in Hawaii and Florida. Plus other Southern and Midwest states. And Puerto Rico, American Samoa and Guam.

    /PedanticBetting
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,412

    Scott_xP said:

    After consoling Putin yesterday on the loss of his bombers, today Donny commiserates that the Nazis lost WW2...

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lqupq2vswf2h

    I've said a long time that too many GOP voters believe the wrong side won WWII, now it seems it includes the US POTUS.
    He's just trying to prove how anti-Russian he is.
    Russia was on Germany's side at the outset of WW2.
  • vikvik Posts: 466
    edited June 5
    Scott_xP said:

    So, just how badly is the Mad King going to shaft his ex best bud now?

    300% tariffs on all EVs from any manufacturer whose name starts with a T?

    All SpaceX contracts transferred to Boeing?

    Starlink illegal in all 50 states?

    Maybe just deport him to South Africa...

    I'm on Team Trump in the Musk v Trump cage match.

    I hope he nationalises Starlink (without compensation) on National Security grounds.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 63,514
    I fear this is a credible scenario.

    "We could end up with the axis powers — Russia and China, supported potentially by Iran and North Korea — collaborating to create a war on two fronts.

    “It would start with a large-scale confrontation in the Indo-Pacific, like a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, which draws off what remains of US forces in Europe. An opportunistic Russia would then move against some part of a Nato territory where they know they can actually win by achieving local dominance, like the Baltics or somewhere in the high north like Svalbard."



    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/defence/article/military-chiefs-double-war-china-russia-l3bc5crgt
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,633
    Pro_Rata said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @adamjschwarz.bsky.social‬

    German Chancellor Merz sets the record straight after Trump tries to draw moral equivalence between Russia and Ukrainian actions:

    "Ukraine is only targeting military targets. Not civilians, not private [property], not energy infrastructure. This is the difference."

    https://bsky.app/profile/adamjschwarz.bsky.social/post/3lquqlqpzm22e

    When is JD along to call Merz ungrateful?
    Mertz won't give a shit. One of the leaders unlikely to be cowed by Trump and his sidekicks
  • LeonLeon Posts: 61,582

    I fear this is a credible scenario.

    "We could end up with the axis powers — Russia and China, supported potentially by Iran and North Korea — collaborating to create a war on two fronts.

    “It would start with a large-scale confrontation in the Indo-Pacific, like a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, which draws off what remains of US forces in Europe. An opportunistic Russia would then move against some part of a Nato territory where they know they can actually win by achieving local dominance, like the Baltics or somewhere in the high north like Svalbard."



    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/defence/article/military-chiefs-double-war-china-russia-l3bc5crgt

    Horribly plausible
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,704
    Ratters said:

    Scott_xP said:

    So, just how badly is the Mad King going to shaft his ex best bud now?

    300% tariffs on all EVs from any manufacturer whose name starts with a T?

    All SpaceX contracts transferred to Boeing?

    Starlink illegal in all 50 states?

    Maybe just deport him to South Africa...

    Does Trump want to really piss off the richest man in the world who is equally thin skinned and petty?
    Alien v Predator
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,148
    Scott_xP said:

    Ratters said:

    Scott_xP said:

    So, just how badly is the Mad King going to shaft his ex best bud now?

    300% tariffs on all EVs from any manufacturer whose name starts with a T?

    All SpaceX contracts transferred to Boeing?

    Starlink illegal in all 50 states?

    Maybe just deport him to South Africa...

    Does Trump want to really piss off the richest man in the world who is equally thin skinned and petty?
    Alien v Predator
    :lol:
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 32,161
    edited June 5
    Off topic

    @Leon . As he is the Spectator's Restaurant Critic I think I've found your mate Sean's next stop.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/corfu-hotel-regulars-slam-pathetic-35338817
  • LeonLeon Posts: 61,582
    Roger said:

    It looks like the baddies are in retreat.

    Who knows Starmer may still grow a backbone and take us back into the EU. Perhaps this nation of strangers will get together and reject these foul racists Srarmer seems determined to pay lip service to

    Awwww, bless
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,093
    edited June 5
    Pochin, called for a ban on burqas in Britain “in the interests of public safety”.

    The MP, who won the recent Runcorn and Helsby by-election with a margin of just six votes over Labour, asked her first question at PMQs on Wednesday. She called on the prime minister to “follow the lead of France, Denmark, Belgium and others” in banning the burqa.

    The intervention prompted audible disquiet from MPs across the chamber. In response, Keir Starmer said he would not follow the Reform UK MP “down that line”.

    Despite Pochin’s question and the immediate endorsement of the Reform MP for Ashfield, Lee Anderson, a spokesperson clarified that support for a ban is “not party policy”.
    It

    Zia Yusuf, the Reform UK chairman, has now appeared to dismiss Pochin’s intervention as “dumb”, questioning why the MP would ask the prime minister about “something the party itself wouldn’t do.”

    Responding to accusations on social media that he was behind the spokesperson’s comment distancing the party from Pochin’s position, Yusuf said: “Nothing to do with me.”


    In a post to X (formerly Twitter), he added: “Had no idea about the question nor that it wasn’t policy. [I am] busy with other stuff.

    “I do think it’s dumb for a party to ask the PM if they would do something the party itself wouldn’t do.”

    Yusuf’s intervention came after Nigel Farage, the Reform UK leader, appeared to back his newest MP.

    Speaking on the show he hosts for GB News on Wednesday evening, Farage argued “we do deserve a debate” about banning face coverings in public places.

    He said: “There are many, many, many countries in the world that are banning the burqa, but I think it goes further than that — you see Sarah [Pochin] said ‘in the interest of public safety’.
    .
    .

    https://www.politics.co.uk/news/2025/06/05/split-in-reform-uk-over-burqa-ban-call-as-chairman-labels-stance-dumb/
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 66,148
    Leon said:

    I fear this is a credible scenario.

    "We could end up with the axis powers — Russia and China, supported potentially by Iran and North Korea — collaborating to create a war on two fronts.

    “It would start with a large-scale confrontation in the Indo-Pacific, like a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, which draws off what remains of US forces in Europe. An opportunistic Russia would then move against some part of a Nato territory where they know they can actually win by achieving local dominance, like the Baltics or somewhere in the high north like Svalbard."



    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/defence/article/military-chiefs-double-war-china-russia-l3bc5crgt

    Horribly plausible
    Lucky we are so well prepared for it.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 11,058
    Zia Yusuf is of course one of two Directors of Reform Ltd.......
    Might get messy
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 63,514
    Leon said:

    I fear this is a credible scenario.

    "We could end up with the axis powers — Russia and China, supported potentially by Iran and North Korea — collaborating to create a war on two fronts.

    “It would start with a large-scale confrontation in the Indo-Pacific, like a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, which draws off what remains of US forces in Europe. An opportunistic Russia would then move against some part of a Nato territory where they know they can actually win by achieving local dominance, like the Baltics or somewhere in the high north like Svalbard."



    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/defence/article/military-chiefs-double-war-china-russia-l3bc5crgt

    Horribly plausible
    If Starmer had any leadership skills and vision he'd stand up in the Commons tomorrow, make an impassioned speech about how our way of life and the ongoing meaningful existence of our country is now under threat like never before and say he's going to immediately add 2p to income tax at all levels and our defence spending to 3.5% of GDP. A sacrifice, and a very hard one at this time, but essential to secure our freedom.

    There is not a moment to waste.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 61,582


    Leon said:

    I fear this is a credible scenario.

    "We could end up with the axis powers — Russia and China, supported potentially by Iran and North Korea — collaborating to create a war on two fronts.

    “It would start with a large-scale confrontation in the Indo-Pacific, like a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, which draws off what remains of US forces in Europe. An opportunistic Russia would then move against some part of a Nato territory where they know they can actually win by achieving local dominance, like the Baltics or somewhere in the high north like Svalbard."



    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/defence/article/military-chiefs-double-war-china-russia-l3bc5crgt

    Horribly plausible
    Lucky we are so well prepared for it.
    Something like this is, sadly, more likely than not

    Why? Because various advances in tech mean that very shortly one power is going to achieve total full spectrum, all domain dominance over the other. It is likely to be the USA, but there is a pretty good chance it will be China

    Whichever power fears being crushed will move first. If China is that fearful power - again, likely - a move against Taiwan is not only desirable but obvious to the point of necessity, as it will stall or halt western tech progress (all those chipmakers)

    If China does this then it will surely do it in concert with Russia, as described, so as to distract the West and dilute its response

    On the whole, I think that calls for a

    BRACE
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,694

    I fear this is a credible scenario.

    "We could end up with the axis powers — Russia and China, supported potentially by Iran and North Korea — collaborating to create a war on two fronts.

    “It would start with a large-scale confrontation in the Indo-Pacific, like a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, which draws off what remains of US forces in Europe. An opportunistic Russia would then move against some part of a Nato territory where they know they can actually win by achieving local dominance, like the Baltics or somewhere in the high north like Svalbard."



    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/defence/article/military-chiefs-double-war-china-russia-l3bc5crgt

    I was actually expecting this in 2022. Russia launching the second phase of its Ukraine invasion at the same time that China makes a grab for Taiwan. It would have been a massive headache for the civilised world.

    Though I do wonder if Xi covets areas to his north first, now that Russia is so weakened. The rest of the world would just shrug shoulders and go "Meh" compared to an attempted Taiwanese invasion.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,093
    Scott_xP said:

    So, just how badly is the Mad King going to shaft his ex best bud now?

    300% tariffs on all EVs from any manufacturer whose name starts with a T?

    All SpaceX contracts transferred to Boeing?

    Starlink illegal in all 50 states?

    Maybe just deport him to South Africa...

    What Musk did at Doge was highly illegal and he doesn't have the protection of office. On the other hand he's rich enough to pay for any number of lawyers.
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