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  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 14,360

    FF43 said:

    The public should be allowed not to care about certain things.

    But this isn’t one of them. The financial cost is bearable, but the direction of travel is not.

    As I've said before, there is a training process whereby the British public is being gaslit not to expect anything better. That is the Starmer administration. We have had dodgy and self-serving acts many times in the past, but this is a wilful, full-frontal attack on the national interest by the Government, and sadly there are a lot of nice people who will accept it like an abused partner accepts it. BigG gave us an example of that yesterday. The project of the right is not just to achieve power and govern well, but to re-moralise a demoralised public.
    What bollocks! The likes of Reform UK (and MAGA in the US) are constantly trying to demoralise us, tell us how terrible everything. You're even doing it here.
    One side tells you it's awful but they can magically make it great, the other that it's awful, it's your fault and you deserve it because of your privilege
    I cannot think of a single piece of Labour campaigning in the 2024 general election or since that said that.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,417
    edited May 23

    FF43 said:

    The public should be allowed not to care about certain things.

    But this isn’t one of them. The financial cost is bearable, but the direction of travel is not.

    As I've said before, there is a training process whereby the British public is being gaslit not to expect anything better. That is the Starmer administration. We have had dodgy and self-serving acts many times in the past, but this is a wilful, full-frontal attack on the national interest by the Government, and sadly there are a lot of nice people who will accept it like an abused partner accepts it. BigG gave us an example of that yesterday. The project of the right is not just to achieve power and govern well, but to re-moralise a demoralised public.
    What bollocks! The likes of Reform UK (and MAGA in the US) are constantly trying to demoralise us, tell us how terrible everything. You're even doing it here.
    One side tells you it's awful but they can magically make it great, the other that it's awful, it's your fault and you deserve it because of your privilege
    I cannot think of a single piece of Labour campaigning in the 2024 general election or since that said that.
    I'm not talking about Labour, it's a much more generic thing than a party thing.
    Demoralisation has been a tool to control and subjugate or motivate into action the masses (depending on whos doing it) since forever.
    Soviet defectors talked about it being a key plank in their fight vs the West
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,828
    I've always enjoyed judicial snark, and there are a few amusing turns of phrase in the decision circulated today about the attempted JR about a media outlet seeking membership details of the Tories

    Beguilingly simple though Mr Payne’s submissions are, in my judgment, they cannot be accepted...

    There were other difficulties thrown up during the hearing before this Court, as Mr Payne sought to avoid some of the problems with his main submission...

    On behalf of the Party Mr Timothy Straker KC submitted that these were simply matters of which judicial notice can be taken. His skeleton argument included some references to events in history, which he submitted are either well-known or can readily be verified by consulting a history textbook. In my view, it is unnecessary for this Court to dwell on this dispute, which does not materially affect the conclusion which I would reach in any event, disregarding any of the contentious matters

    https://www.scribd.com/document/866006526/Tortoise-Media-v-Conservative-Party-Judgment
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 14,360

    FF43 said:

    The public should be allowed not to care about certain things.

    But this isn’t one of them. The financial cost is bearable, but the direction of travel is not.

    As I've said before, there is a training process whereby the British public is being gaslit not to expect anything better. That is the Starmer administration. We have had dodgy and self-serving acts many times in the past, but this is a wilful, full-frontal attack on the national interest by the Government, and sadly there are a lot of nice people who will accept it like an abused partner accepts it. BigG gave us an example of that yesterday. The project of the right is not just to achieve power and govern well, but to re-moralise a demoralised public.
    What bollocks! The likes of Reform UK (and MAGA in the US) are constantly trying to demoralise us, tell us how terrible everything. You're even doing it here.
    One side tells you it's awful but they can magically make it great, the other that it's awful, it's your fault and you deserve it because of your privilege
    I cannot think of a single piece of Labour campaigning in the 2024 general election or since that said that.
    I'm not talking about Labour
    Then I don't know why you walked into this conversation.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,417

    FF43 said:

    The public should be allowed not to care about certain things.

    But this isn’t one of them. The financial cost is bearable, but the direction of travel is not.

    As I've said before, there is a training process whereby the British public is being gaslit not to expect anything better. That is the Starmer administration. We have had dodgy and self-serving acts many times in the past, but this is a wilful, full-frontal attack on the national interest by the Government, and sadly there are a lot of nice people who will accept it like an abused partner accepts it. BigG gave us an example of that yesterday. The project of the right is not just to achieve power and govern well, but to re-moralise a demoralised public.
    What bollocks! The likes of Reform UK (and MAGA in the US) are constantly trying to demoralise us, tell us how terrible everything. You're even doing it here.
    One side tells you it's awful but they can magically make it great, the other that it's awful, it's your fault and you deserve it because of your privilege
    I cannot think of a single piece of Labour campaigning in the 2024 general election or since that said that.
    I'm not talking about Labour
    Then I don't know why you walked into this conversation.
    Ill walk out the same way, demoralised by the experience
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,810

    OnlyFans owner in talks to sell site for $8bn

    In the year ended November 2023, the social media platform generated $6.6 billion in revenue, up from $375 million in 2020


    https://www.thetimes.com/business-money/companies/article/onlyfans-owner-in-talks-to-sell-site-for-8bn-hz7w2xdxc

    A lot of hard work went into raising the value of the site.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 14,360
    ydoethur said:

    OnlyFans owner in talks to sell site for $8bn

    In the year ended November 2023, the social media platform generated $6.6 billion in revenue, up from $375 million in 2020


    https://www.thetimes.com/business-money/companies/article/onlyfans-owner-in-talks-to-sell-site-for-8bn-hz7w2xdxc

    A lot of hard work went into raising the value of the site.
    I don't think it was hard for that long.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,448
    I know it was over an hour ago, but I couldn’t agree more with Casino’s James Bond post.

    It needs to be a Roger Moore reboot.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,488
    ydoethur said:

    OnlyFans owner in talks to sell site for $8bn

    In the year ended November 2023, the social media platform generated $6.6 billion in revenue, up from $375 million in 2020


    https://www.thetimes.com/business-money/companies/article/onlyfans-owner-in-talks-to-sell-site-for-8bn-hz7w2xdxc

    A lot of hard work went into raising the value of the site.
    The owner clearly has managed to get it up.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,810

    ydoethur said:

    OnlyFans owner in talks to sell site for $8bn

    In the year ended November 2023, the social media platform generated $6.6 billion in revenue, up from $375 million in 2020


    https://www.thetimes.com/business-money/companies/article/onlyfans-owner-in-talks-to-sell-site-for-8bn-hz7w2xdxc

    A lot of hard work went into raising the value of the site.
    I don't think it was hard for that long.
    Well, it doesn't seem to have been a complete flop.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,810

    ydoethur said:

    OnlyFans owner in talks to sell site for $8bn

    In the year ended November 2023, the social media platform generated $6.6 billion in revenue, up from $375 million in 2020


    https://www.thetimes.com/business-money/companies/article/onlyfans-owner-in-talks-to-sell-site-for-8bn-hz7w2xdxc

    A lot of hard work went into raising the value of the site.
    The owner clearly has managed to get it up.
    And will be cock a hoop if he pulls it off.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,810
    TimS said:

    I know it was over an hour ago, but I couldn’t agree more with Casino’s James Bond post.

    It needs to be a Roger Moore reboot.

    Well, perhaps it just needs to take a leaf out of Only Fans and do some moore Rogering?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,657
    TimS said:

    I know it was over an hour ago, but I couldn’t agree more with Casino’s James Bond post.

    It needs to be a Roger Moore reboot.

    The only Bond actor whose name was an instruction.

    It is impossible to read the words "Roger Moore" and not hear the voice of Steve Coogan. "Roger...Mooorrre"
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,448
    edited May 23

    ydoethur said:

    OnlyFans owner in talks to sell site for $8bn

    In the year ended November 2023, the social media platform generated $6.6 billion in revenue, up from $375 million in 2020


    https://www.thetimes.com/business-money/companies/article/onlyfans-owner-in-talks-to-sell-site-for-8bn-hz7w2xdxc

    A lot of hard work went into raising the value of the site.
    I don't think it was hard for that long.
    I suppose if you own a porn site, and particularly if you’re British (not checked but I assume so, if they’re selling up) it’s hard to make that typical tech bro leap from “I have a website people like to use and pay money for” to “I am the second coming of Christ, I’m going to reimagine the world of porn, I’m basically the future. In fact I’m not actually a porn site, I’m a tech company that happens to feature nude people”. But then I suppose if a bloke who made cars could think that then anyone could.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,212
    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,212
    edited May 23
    TimS said:

    I know it was over an hour ago, but I couldn’t agree more with Casino’s James Bond post.

    It needs to be a Roger Moore reboot.

    "I could not fail to disagree with you less!" - Boris.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,810

    TimS said:

    I know it was over an hour ago, but I couldn’t agree more with Casino’s James Bond post.

    It needs to be a Roger Moore reboot.

    "I couldn't disagree with you less!" - Boris.
    Tsk, tsk.

    It was:

    'I could not fail to disagree with you less.'

    #pedanticbetting.com
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,417
    edited May 23
    Carney drops a seat further back from majority after Terranova flips Conservative after the judicial recount - he ends on 169 3 short of a majority with Elizabeth May the green likely on his side for 170. The NDPs 7 MPs will prop him up for now.
    He might drop to 168 if the Bloc Quebecois can force a by election in the riding that was won by a single vote after recount (and win it)
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,212
    edited May 23
    ydoethur said:

    TimS said:

    I know it was over an hour ago, but I couldn’t agree more with Casino’s James Bond post.

    It needs to be a Roger Moore reboot.

    "I couldn't disagree with you less!" - Boris.
    Tsk, tsk.

    It was:

    'I could not fail to disagree with you less.'

    #pedanticbetting.com
    Sunil: "Of course! Of course! Must be the booze!"

    ydoethur: "But you don't drink, Sunil."

    Sunil: "Oh, yeah..."
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,006
    edited May 23
    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    I have killed time in Greggs, not with a date however, and actually they are ...OK .. by the standards of fast food places. At least they tend to be clean and reasonably relaxed.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,488
    edited May 23

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    Oh great: "I really like you, do you fancy an evening out?... I hear the Greggs at Kings Cross has, er, seats."
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,936
    edited May 23
    Republicans against Trump
    @RpsAgainstTrump
    Republican Senator Ron Johnson slams Trump's "Big beautiful bill":

    “I couldn't care less if he's upset. I'm concerned about my children and grandchildren. $37 trillion in debt and we're going to add to it? There is no way I'm going to vote for this bill”

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1925980636390576632


    48-52 now?

    And Rand Paul seems unlikely.

  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 14,336

    FF43 said:

    The public should be allowed not to care about certain things.

    But this isn’t one of them. The financial cost is bearable, but the direction of travel is not.

    As I've said before, there is a training process whereby the British public is being gaslit not to expect anything better. That is the Starmer administration. We have had dodgy and self-serving acts many times in the past, but this is a wilful, full-frontal attack on the national interest by the Government, and sadly there are a lot of nice people who will accept it like an abused partner accepts it. BigG gave us an example of that yesterday. The project of the right is not just to achieve power and govern well, but to re-moralise a demoralised public.
    What bollocks! The likes of Reform UK (and MAGA in the US) are constantly trying to demoralise us, tell us how terrible everything. You're even doing it here.
    One side tells you it's awful but they can magically make it great, the other that it's awful, it's your fault and you deserve it because of your privilege
    I cannot think of a single piece of Labour campaigning in the 2024 general election or since that said that.
    I'm not talking about Labour
    Then I don't know why you walked into this conversation.
    I don't know about anyone else but I just walked through the back of a wardrobe and found myself here. I am sure I can find my way out.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,810

    ydoethur said:

    TimS said:

    I know it was over an hour ago, but I couldn’t agree more with Casino’s James Bond post.

    It needs to be a Roger Moore reboot.

    "I couldn't disagree with you less!" - Boris.
    Tsk, tsk.

    It was:

    'I could not fail to disagree with you less.'

    #pedanticbetting.com
    Sunil: "Of course! Of course! Must be the booze!"

    ydoethur: "But you don't drink, Sunil."

    Sunil: "Oh, yeah..."
    *raises a glass of 12 year old single malt and looks at it thoughtfully.*

    *Then downs it*
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,657

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I want it to be colourful. Literally. Films these days are colour corrected to within an inch of their life, and they are all too muddy blue or muddy red. I saw "Thunderbolts" last week and the cinematography was awful. I want drone shots of a Greek church immaculate in white with a pristine blue sky and a red ball in the foreground. Give me a black woman in a yellow dress and Bond in a jet black suit and white shirt with the top button done up. A line of dialogue from "A Matter Of Life And Death" is "we are starved of colour up there".
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,212

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    Oh great: "I really like you, do you fancy an evening out?... I hear the Greggs at Kings Cross has, er, seats."
    [excitedly] "We could even do a bit of trainspotting, Ben!"
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,615
    edited May 23

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    Oh great: "I really like you, do you fancy an evening out?... I hear the Greggs at Kings Cross has, er, seats."
    Even if your date is up for a Gregg's, she'll always suspect that you think the steak bake is hotter.

    Which it is.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,810
    viewcode said:

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I want it to be colourful. Literally. Films these days are colour corrected to within an inch of their life, and they are all too muddy blue or muddy red. I saw "Thunderbolts" last week and the cinematography was awful. I want drone shots of a Greek church immaculate in white with a pristine blue sky and a red ball in the foreground. Give me a black woman in a yellow dress and Bond in a jet black suit and white shirt with the top button done up. A line of dialogue from "A Matter Of Life And Death" is "we are starved of colour up there".
    'One is starved for Technicolor up there.'

    By Marius Goring's Conductor 71 on his first trip to Earth.

    (Fair's fair. I did it to Sunil.)
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 30,188
    A while since we’ve had one isn’t it?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,657
    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I want it to be colourful. Literally. Films these days are colour corrected to within an inch of their life, and they are all too muddy blue or muddy red. I saw "Thunderbolts" last week and the cinematography was awful. I want drone shots of a Greek church immaculate in white with a pristine blue sky and a red ball in the foreground. Give me a black woman in a yellow dress and Bond in a jet black suit and white shirt with the top button done up. A line of dialogue from "A Matter Of Life And Death" is "we are starved of colour up there".
    'One is starved for Technicolor up there.'

    By Marius Goring's Conductor 71 on his first trip to Earth.

    (Fair's fair. I did it to Sunil.)
    Damn, apologies. And it is genuinely one of my all time favourite films. I used to live in a shared house and one of the occupants was a French girl, and we always argued about who had the best culture. I had to pull out Turner for art, but Hitchcock and the Archers got me past for film.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,351

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I agree, but think a Bond being released in a world where Bond's ultimate imagined boss is Sir Titface somehow just wouldn't work.

    When we get rid of his Government and take a few steps in the right direction, the planets will align and Bond will return, Bezos or no.

    Moore is my favourite Bond.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,212

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I agree, but think a Bond being released in a world where Bond's ultimate imagined boss is Sir Titface somehow just wouldn't work.

    When we get rid of his Government and take a few steps in the right direction, the planets will align and Bond will return, Bezos or no.

    Moore is my favourite Bond.
    A View To A Kill is my favourite Bond theme.

    #guiltypleasure
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 14,336

    [Sunil jizzes himself in a frenzy over some Greggs vegan sausage rolls]

    "I'll have what he's having!"

    I really hate the Taxdodgers who own Greggs.

    But as a happy meat eater I have to say their vegan sausage rolls are lush.
    Anyone can own a bit of Greggs, it is listed on the LSE. It's on a bit of a dip at the moment.

    I like them, they operate in deeply unfashionable places and are OK. They are the Spar or Travelodge of bakers. Never first pick, not exciting but you won't starve.

    (Actually you could starve in a Travelodge with only minimal effort).
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,417

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I agree, but think a Bond being released in a world where Bond's ultimate imagined boss is Sir Titface somehow just wouldn't work.

    When we get rid of his Government and take a few steps in the right direction, the planets will align and Bond will return, Bezos or no.

    Moore is my favourite Bond.
    A View To A Kill is my favourite Bond theme.

    #guiltypleasure
    Nah, The World Is Not Enough. Because Shirley Manson
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,715
    viewcode said:

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I want it to be colourful. Literally. Films these days are colour corrected to within an inch of their life, and they are all too muddy blue or muddy red. I saw "Thunderbolts" last week and the cinematography was awful. I want drone shots of a Greek church immaculate in white with a pristine blue sky and a red ball in the foreground. Give me a black woman in a yellow dress and Bond in a jet black suit and white shirt with the top button done up. A line of dialogue from "A Matter Of Life And Death" is "we are starved of colour up there".
    They need to get Paul Verhoevan to direct it.

    It needs his over the top, yet ironic style with plenty of naked flesh and violence too.

    Do you want to know more?
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,615

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I agree, but think a Bond being released in a world where Bond's ultimate imagined boss is Sir Titface somehow just wouldn't work.

    When we get rid of his Government and take a few steps in the right direction, the planets will align and Bond will return, Bezos or no.

    Moore is my favourite Bond.
    David Lammy is the direct boss though.

    There are scenes that could suit:

    https://youtu.be/v6oh0T3oTvI?si=17NDhvhQwq6W_d5z
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 31,351

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I agree, but think a Bond being released in a world where Bond's ultimate imagined boss is Sir Titface somehow just wouldn't work.

    When we get rid of his Government and take a few steps in the right direction, the planets will align and Bond will return, Bezos or no.

    Moore is my favourite Bond.
    A View To A Kill is my favourite Bond theme.

    #guiltypleasure
    Not a guilty pleasure - the theme is excellent and widely seen as the best thing about the film bar Grace Jones.

    The film itself is a guilty pleasure. Leading lady being a weak spot.

    Moore is much older in it, and somehow I think that it was written with an older love interest in mind - it would have seemed fitting for him to have ended up with Linda Grey - it had a Dallas/ Dynasty feel.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 14,336
    Pro_Rata said:

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    Oh great: "I really like you, do you fancy an evening out?... I hear the Greggs at Kings Cross has, er, seats."
    Even if your date is up for a Gregg's, she'll always suspect that you think the steak bake is hotter.

    Which it is.
    Philip Larkin, as always, was on the ball:

    About twenty years ago
    Two girls came in where I worked—
    A bosomy English rose
    And her friend in specs I could talk to.
    Faces in those days sparked
    The whole shooting-match off, and I doubt
    If ever one had like hers:
    But it was the friend I took out,

    And in seven years after that
    Wrote over four hundred letters,
    Gave a ten-guinea ring
    I got back in the end, and met
    At numerous branches of Greggs
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,810
    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I want it to be colourful. Literally. Films these days are colour corrected to within an inch of their life, and they are all too muddy blue or muddy red. I saw "Thunderbolts" last week and the cinematography was awful. I want drone shots of a Greek church immaculate in white with a pristine blue sky and a red ball in the foreground. Give me a black woman in a yellow dress and Bond in a jet black suit and white shirt with the top button done up. A line of dialogue from "A Matter Of Life And Death" is "we are starved of colour up there".
    'One is starved for Technicolor up there.'

    By Marius Goring's Conductor 71 on his first trip to Earth.

    (Fair's fair. I did it to Sunil.)
    Damn, apologies. And it is genuinely one of my all time favourite films. I used to live in a shared house and one of the occupants was a French girl, and we always argued about who had the best culture. I had to pull out Turner for art, but Hitchcock and the Archers got me past for film.
    I'm sure Hitchcock's sheer brilliance gave her Vertigo.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,006

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    Oh great: "I really like you, do you fancy an evening out?... I hear the Greggs at Kings Cross has, er, seats."
    Anywhere at Kings Cross station that has seats is gold dust.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,488
    edited May 23

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I agree, but think a Bond being released in a world where Bond's ultimate imagined boss is Sir Titface somehow just wouldn't work.

    When we get rid of his Government and take a few steps in the right direction, the planets will align and Bond will return, Bezos or no.

    Moore is my favourite Bond.
    I reckon an 'Early Bond'* spin-off franchise could do well - Bond in the 1950s: cold war, low-tech, 50s glamour, war heroes, film starlets, French riviera, people dressing for dinner, etc. etc.

    (*'Early Bond', not 'Young Bond')
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,417
    Foxy said:

    viewcode said:

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I want it to be colourful. Literally. Films these days are colour corrected to within an inch of their life, and they are all too muddy blue or muddy red. I saw "Thunderbolts" last week and the cinematography was awful. I want drone shots of a Greek church immaculate in white with a pristine blue sky and a red ball in the foreground. Give me a black woman in a yellow dress and Bond in a jet black suit and white shirt with the top button done up. A line of dialogue from "A Matter Of Life And Death" is "we are starved of colour up there".
    They need to get Paul Verhoevan to direct it.

    It needs his over the top, yet ironic style with plenty of naked flesh and violence too.

    Do you want to know more?
    It needs a hot English Rose who's happy to just simper, make puppy eyes and be rescued and then deflowered on an inflatable union jack raft whilst a loop of Sid James guffawing plays on the BBC World Service (that's the code for the Tommies to move in and clean house)
  • eekeek Posts: 30,024
    TimS said:

    ydoethur said:

    OnlyFans owner in talks to sell site for $8bn

    In the year ended November 2023, the social media platform generated $6.6 billion in revenue, up from $375 million in 2020


    https://www.thetimes.com/business-money/companies/article/onlyfans-owner-in-talks-to-sell-site-for-8bn-hz7w2xdxc

    A lot of hard work went into raising the value of the site.
    I don't think it was hard for that long.
    I suppose if you own a porn site, and particularly if you’re British (not checked but I assume so, if they’re selling up) it’s hard to make that typical tech bro leap from “I have a website people like to use and pay money for” to “I am the second coming of Christ, I’m going to reimagine the world of porn, I’m basically the future. In fact I’m not actually a porn site, I’m a tech company that happens to feature nude people”. But then I suppose if a bloke who made cars could think that then anyone could.
    The problem with porn is that you are only a few (or 1 influential) complaints from losing the means of accepting credit cards.

    And with Trump and co in power I would imagine getting out before the US says something that scares Visa / Mastercard into blocking payments to the onlyfans bank account makes sense
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,715

    Foxy said:

    viewcode said:

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I want it to be colourful. Literally. Films these days are colour corrected to within an inch of their life, and they are all too muddy blue or muddy red. I saw "Thunderbolts" last week and the cinematography was awful. I want drone shots of a Greek church immaculate in white with a pristine blue sky and a red ball in the foreground. Give me a black woman in a yellow dress and Bond in a jet black suit and white shirt with the top button done up. A line of dialogue from "A Matter Of Life And Death" is "we are starved of colour up there".
    They need to get Paul Verhoevan to direct it.

    It needs his over the top, yet ironic style with plenty of naked flesh and violence too.

    Do you want to know more?
    It needs a hot English Rose who's happy to just simper, make puppy eyes and be rescued and then deflowered on an inflatable union jack raft whilst a loop of Sid James guffawing plays on the BBC World Service (that's the code for the Tommies to move in and clean house)
    If there's a director who could pull that off, it's Verhoevan!
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,417

    Foxy said:

    viewcode said:

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I want it to be colourful. Literally. Films these days are colour corrected to within an inch of their life, and they are all too muddy blue or muddy red. I saw "Thunderbolts" last week and the cinematography was awful. I want drone shots of a Greek church immaculate in white with a pristine blue sky and a red ball in the foreground. Give me a black woman in a yellow dress and Bond in a jet black suit and white shirt with the top button done up. A line of dialogue from "A Matter Of Life And Death" is "we are starved of colour up there".
    They need to get Paul Verhoevan to direct it.

    It needs his over the top, yet ironic style with plenty of naked flesh and violence too.

    Do you want to know more?
    It needs a hot English Rose who's happy to just simper, make puppy eyes and be rescued and then deflowered on an inflatable union jack raft whilst a loop of Sid James guffawing plays on the BBC World Service (that's the code for the Tommies to move in and clean house)
    Her given name whilst she was teaching little children about the baby Jesus in deepest Africa was Laymee Down-N'Doomy
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,488
    FF43 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    Oh great: "I really like you, do you fancy an evening out?... I hear the Greggs at Kings Cross has, er, seats."
    Anywhere at Kings Cross station that has seats is gold dust.
    I always take my own, just saying ;-)
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,926
    FF43 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    Oh great: "I really like you, do you fancy an evening out?... I hear the Greggs at Kings Cross has, er, seats."
    Anywhere at Kings Cross station that has seats is gold dust.
    Try one of the trains.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,488
    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I want it to be colourful. Literally. Films these days are colour corrected to within an inch of their life, and they are all too muddy blue or muddy red. I saw "Thunderbolts" last week and the cinematography was awful. I want drone shots of a Greek church immaculate in white with a pristine blue sky and a red ball in the foreground. Give me a black woman in a yellow dress and Bond in a jet black suit and white shirt with the top button done up. A line of dialogue from "A Matter Of Life And Death" is "we are starved of colour up there".
    'One is starved for Technicolor up there.'

    By Marius Goring's Conductor 71 on his first trip to Earth.

    (Fair's fair. I did it to Sunil.)
    Damn, apologies. And it is genuinely one of my all time favourite films. I used to live in a shared house and one of the occupants was a French girl, and we always argued about who had the best culture. I had to pull out Turner for art, but Hitchcock and the Archers got me past for film.
    I'm sure Hitchcock's sheer brilliance gave her Vertigo.
    You're sure? Or is that just your Suspicion?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,706
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    viewcode said:

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I want it to be colourful. Literally. Films these days are colour corrected to within an inch of their life, and they are all too muddy blue or muddy red. I saw "Thunderbolts" last week and the cinematography was awful. I want drone shots of a Greek church immaculate in white with a pristine blue sky and a red ball in the foreground. Give me a black woman in a yellow dress and Bond in a jet black suit and white shirt with the top button done up. A line of dialogue from "A Matter Of Life And Death" is "we are starved of colour up there".
    They need to get Paul Verhoevan to direct it.

    It needs his over the top, yet ironic style with plenty of naked flesh and violence too.

    Do you want to know more?
    It needs a hot English Rose who's happy to just simper, make puppy eyes and be rescued and then deflowered on an inflatable union jack raft whilst a loop of Sid James guffawing plays on the BBC World Service (that's the code for the Tommies to move in and clean house)
    If there's a director who could pull that off, it's Verhoevan!
    He's not the only one who would be pulling it off. (Ironic eyebrow.)
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,488
    algarkirk said:

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    Oh great: "I really like you, do you fancy an evening out?... I hear the Greggs at Kings Cross has, er, seats."
    In my mind, reading this, is the entire plot of Brief Encounter, updated to 2025.
    "This can't last. This misery can't last."
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,417
    algarkirk said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    Oh great: "I really like you, do you fancy an evening out?... I hear the Greggs at Kings Cross has, er, seats."
    Even if your date is up for a Gregg's, she'll always suspect that you think the steak bake is hotter.

    Which it is.
    Philip Larkin, as always, was on the ball:

    About twenty years ago
    Two girls came in where I worked—
    A bosomy English rose
    And her friend in specs I could talk to.
    Faces in those days sparked
    The whole shooting-match off, and I doubt
    If ever one had like hers:
    But it was the friend I took out,

    And in seven years after that
    Wrote over four hundred letters,
    Gave a ten-guinea ring
    I got back in the end, and met
    At numerous branches of Greggs
    Or Adrian Mitchell's updated Celia, Celia
    When I'm sad and weary
    When I think all hope is gone
    When I walk along High Holborn
    I think of you with nothing on (shoving a steak bake in your gob)

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,715
    edited May 23
    1976 #TOTP on tonight is a real corker.

    They did their best to find one without a Yew Tree DJ presenter, but some decidedly dodgy stuff going on.

    Pans People dancing to Wings is the highlight.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,532

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    If anything could make that first date experience better than being at a Greggs, it would be a first date at a Greggs in a railway station.

    Unless they're both train buffs, of course.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,926

    FF43 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    Oh great: "I really like you, do you fancy an evening out?... I hear the Greggs at Kings Cross has, er, seats."
    Anywhere at Kings Cross station that has seats is gold dust.
    I always take my own, just saying ;-)
    I did actually do that once. I had some free time after a work meeting and popped in to a shop on the King's Road that sells vintage Indian furniture. I bought a child's chair which I then had to transport home via tube and train. While festering at The Cross I made use of it.

    The chair is currently placed just across the room from where I am now.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,417
    AnneJGP said:

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    If anything could make that first date experience better than being at a Greggs, it would be a first date at a Greggs in a railway station.

    Unless they're both train buffs, of course.
    I shall take my next intended love to a Greggs at the M1 services south of Wakefield and tell her she doesn't know she's born
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,926
    AnneJGP said:

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    If anything could make that first date experience better than being at a Greggs, it would be a first date at a Greggs in a railway station.

    Unless they're both train buffs, of course.
    Leeds station has a Pret, a Leon, but no Greggs. Anyone would think it was in the South.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,594
    viewcode said:

    ydoethur said:

    viewcode said:

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I want it to be colourful. Literally. Films these days are colour corrected to within an inch of their life, and they are all too muddy blue or muddy red. I saw "Thunderbolts" last week and the cinematography was awful. I want drone shots of a Greek church immaculate in white with a pristine blue sky and a red ball in the foreground. Give me a black woman in a yellow dress and Bond in a jet black suit and white shirt with the top button done up. A line of dialogue from "A Matter Of Life And Death" is "we are starved of colour up there".
    'One is starved for Technicolor up there.'

    By Marius Goring's Conductor 71 on his first trip to Earth.

    (Fair's fair. I did it to Sunil.)
    Damn, apologies. And it is genuinely one of my all time favourite films. I used to live in a shared house and one of the occupants was a French girl, and we always argued about who had the best culture. I had to pull out Turner for art, but Hitchcock and the Archers got me past for film.
    It is a magnificent film, and I love it dearly.

    Though the whole heaven scenario is clearly played out in Niven’s head.
    There’s no way any genuine paradisium would be run by a mixture of American puritanism and British bureaucracy.
  • maxhmaxh Posts: 1,603
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    viewcode said:

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I want it to be colourful. Literally. Films these days are colour corrected to within an inch of their life, and they are all too muddy blue or muddy red. I saw "Thunderbolts" last week and the cinematography was awful. I want drone shots of a Greek church immaculate in white with a pristine blue sky and a red ball in the foreground. Give me a black woman in a yellow dress and Bond in a jet black suit and white shirt with the top button done up. A line of dialogue from "A Matter Of Life And Death" is "we are starved of colour up there".
    They need to get Paul Verhoevan to direct it.

    It needs his over the top, yet ironic style with plenty of naked flesh and violence too.

    Do you want to know more?
    It needs a hot English Rose who's happy to just simper, make puppy eyes and be rescued and then deflowered on an inflatable union jack raft whilst a loop of Sid James guffawing plays on the BBC World Service (that's the code for the Tommies to move in and clean house)
    If there's a director who could pull that off, it's Verhoevan!
    This thread has reminded me of the brilliance that is Total Recall. Thanks.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,532
    algarkirk said:

    [Sunil jizzes himself in a frenzy over some Greggs vegan sausage rolls]

    "I'll have what he's having!"

    I really hate the Taxdodgers who own Greggs.

    But as a happy meat eater I have to say their vegan sausage rolls are lush.
    Anyone can own a bit of Greggs, it is listed on the LSE. It's on a bit of a dip at the moment.

    I like them, they operate in deeply unfashionable places and are OK. They are the Spar or Travelodge of bakers. Never first pick, not exciting but you won't starve.

    (Actually you could starve in a Travelodge with only minimal effort).
    If a first date is on a shoestring budget, then buy your food in Greggs and go sit somewhere nice. Don't actually stay in Greggs. IMHO.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,488
    edited May 23
    Foxy said:

    1976 #TOTP on tonight is a real corker.

    They did their best to find one without a Yew Tree DJ presenter, but some decidedly dogy stuff going on.

    Pans People dancing to Wings is the highlight.

    Pan's People used to be the highlight of my teenage week.

    (But was that not Ruby Flipper?)
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,417
    Foxy said:

    1976 #TOTP on tonight is a real corker.

    They did their best to find one without a Yew Tree DJ presenter, but some decidedly dodgy stuff going on.

    Pans People dancing to Wings is the highlight.

    Sarah Brightman, crikey!
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,908

    AnneJGP said:

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    If anything could make that first date experience better than being at a Greggs, it would be a first date at a Greggs in a railway station.

    Unless they're both train buffs, of course.
    I shall take my next intended love to a Greggs at the M1 services south of Wakefield and tell her she doesn't know she's born
    More like wishes she hadn’t been born…
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,417

    AnneJGP said:

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    If anything could make that first date experience better than being at a Greggs, it would be a first date at a Greggs in a railway station.

    Unless they're both train buffs, of course.
    I shall take my next intended love to a Greggs at the M1 services south of Wakefield and tell her she doesn't know she's born
    More like wishes she hadn’t been born…
    Ill have you know there's women who sign up to get on the queue to get on the list to date me. I despise them all but what can you do? I'm an absolute fox
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,006

    FF43 said:

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    Oh great: "I really like you, do you fancy an evening out?... I hear the Greggs at Kings Cross has, er, seats."
    Anywhere at Kings Cross station that has seats is gold dust.
    Try one of the trains.
    You'll wait for them standing up.

    My go to when I arrive early for a train is Camino next door, its main merit it has .… seats.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,212

    AnneJGP said:

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    If anything could make that first date experience better than being at a Greggs, it would be a first date at a Greggs in a railway station.

    Unless they're both train buffs, of course.
    Leeds station has a Pret, a Leon, but no Greggs. Anyone would think it was in the South.
    Kings Cross has a Leon AND a Greggs :p
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,908

    AnneJGP said:

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    If anything could make that first date experience better than being at a Greggs, it would be a first date at a Greggs in a railway station.

    Unless they're both train buffs, of course.
    I shall take my next intended love to a Greggs at the M1 services south of Wakefield and tell her she doesn't know she's born
    More like wishes she hadn’t been born…
    Ill have you know there's women who sign up to get on the queue to get on the list to date me. I despise them all but what can you do? I'm an absolute fox
    It wasn’t a dig at you, more those sodding services…
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,417

    AnneJGP said:

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    If anything could make that first date experience better than being at a Greggs, it would be a first date at a Greggs in a railway station.

    Unless they're both train buffs, of course.
    I shall take my next intended love to a Greggs at the M1 services south of Wakefield and tell her she doesn't know she's born
    More like wishes she hadn’t been born…
    Ill have you know there's women who sign up to get on the queue to get on the list to date me. I despise them all but what can you do? I'm an absolute fox
    It wasn’t a dig at you, more those sodding services…
    I know matey, I just wanted to say I'm an absolute fox and that birds are totally gagging for me.
    These are now facts because they are on the Internet
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,417
    edited May 23
    Dan Hodges of 'wrong about everything inc.' Says Chagos doesn't matter and is misrepresenting the poll to prove it
    He says it shows three quarters of all Britons support the deal or don't care about it.
    He's such a Starmer fanboy
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,715

    Foxy said:

    1976 #TOTP on tonight is a real corker.

    They did their best to find one without a Yew Tree DJ presenter, but some decidedly dogy stuff going on.

    Pans People dancing to Wings is the highlight.

    Pan's People used to be the highlight of my teenage week.

    (But was that not Ruby Flipper?)
    Yes, I think it was.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,926

    Dan Hodges of 'wrong about everything inc.' Says Chagos doesn't matter and is misrepresenting the poll to prove it
    He says it shows three quarters of all Britons support the deal or don't care about it.
    He's such a Starmer fanboy

    Sounds like he's been taking lessons from HYUFD on spinning polling data.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,417
    Even Rentoul has turned 'This deal will haunt him'
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,896
    edited May 23

    Foxy said:

    1976 #TOTP on tonight is a real corker.

    They did their best to find one without a Yew Tree DJ presenter, but some decidedly dogy stuff going on.

    Pans People dancing to Wings is the highlight.

    Pan's People used to be the highlight of my teenage week.

    (But was that not Ruby Flipper?)
    I am seriously disappointed to find that "Ruby Flipper" isn't a thing in the urban disctionary.

    Anybody bored enough to make it a thing? Preferably something REALLY dirty...
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,448

    Dan Hodges of 'wrong about everything inc.' Says Chagos doesn't matter and is misrepresenting the poll to prove it
    He says it shows three quarters of all Britons support the deal or don't care about it.
    He's such a Starmer fanboy

    Sounds like he's been taking lessons from HYUFD on spinning polling data.
    Honestly, I think the main thing influencing polling at the moment is the polls. And election results.

    There are times when that’s true, and times when it’s not. Definitely true now.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,417

    Foxy said:

    1976 #TOTP on tonight is a real corker.

    They did their best to find one without a Yew Tree DJ presenter, but some decidedly dogy stuff going on.

    Pans People dancing to Wings is the highlight.

    Pan's People used to be the highlight of my teenage week.

    (But was that not Ruby Flipper?)
    I am seriously disappointed to find that "Ruby Flipper" isn't a thing in the urban disctionary.

    Anybody bored enough to make it a thing? Preferably something REALLY dirty...
    I've already disgusted myself thinking of ideas.
    I'm gross
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,417
    TimS said:

    Dan Hodges of 'wrong about everything inc.' Says Chagos doesn't matter and is misrepresenting the poll to prove it
    He says it shows three quarters of all Britons support the deal or don't care about it.
    He's such a Starmer fanboy

    Sounds like he's been taking lessons from HYUFD on spinning polling data.
    Honestly, I think the main thing influencing polling at the moment is the polls. And election results.

    There are times when that’s true, and times when it’s not. Definitely true now.
    Polls are a tool for influencing public opinion, not measuring it as the man once said
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,448
    There are two primary reasons why the government is unpopular at the moment.

    1. Rachel Reeves’ July speech on the black hole
    2. Rachel Reeves’ autumn budget
  • TimSTimS Posts: 15,448

    Foxy said:

    1976 #TOTP on tonight is a real corker.

    They did their best to find one without a Yew Tree DJ presenter, but some decidedly dogy stuff going on.

    Pans People dancing to Wings is the highlight.

    Pan's People used to be the highlight of my teenage week.

    (But was that not Ruby Flipper?)
    I am seriously disappointed to find that "Ruby Flipper" isn't a thing in the urban disctionary.

    Anybody bored enough to make it a thing? Preferably something REALLY dirty...
    Dolphins aren’t really my bag.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,212
    TimS said:

    Foxy said:

    1976 #TOTP on tonight is a real corker.

    They did their best to find one without a Yew Tree DJ presenter, but some decidedly dogy stuff going on.

    Pans People dancing to Wings is the highlight.

    Pan's People used to be the highlight of my teenage week.

    (But was that not Ruby Flipper?)
    I am seriously disappointed to find that "Ruby Flipper" isn't a thing in the urban disctionary.

    Anybody bored enough to make it a thing? Preferably something REALLY dirty...
    Dolphins aren’t really my bag.
    You'd rather p.p.p.pick up a Penguin?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 77,594

    TimS said:

    Foxy said:

    1976 #TOTP on tonight is a real corker.

    They did their best to find one without a Yew Tree DJ presenter, but some decidedly dogy stuff going on.

    Pans People dancing to Wings is the highlight.

    Pan's People used to be the highlight of my teenage week.

    (But was that not Ruby Flipper?)
    I am seriously disappointed to find that "Ruby Flipper" isn't a thing in the urban disctionary.

    Anybody bored enough to make it a thing? Preferably something REALLY dirty...
    Dolphins aren’t really my bag.
    You'd rather p.p.p.pick up a Penguin?
    There’s plenty more fish in the sea.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,417
    edited May 23
    TimS said:

    There are two primary reasons why the government is unpopular at the moment.

    1. Rachel Reeves’ July speech on the black hole
    2. Rachel Reeves’ autumn budget

    They've been at under their 2024 GE VI since a month after the election and exceeded it in only 3 polls (2 with We think and a Stonehaven matched the 34%), by the budget they were already down to 30% and had seen their first loss of the lead. Since then they have drifted down, were averaging mid twenties by March and since the locals are firmly under 25%.
    Whatever the root cause they are consistently, increasingly and intransigently unpopular and there has been absolutely no 'boost' after anything they've tried, done or said
    The stench of death is on them and Kemis Tories

    The Tory Locals results were really bad but Labour's were apocalyptic
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,896
    AnneJGP said:

    AnneJGP said:

    viewcode said:

    AnneJGP said:

    Just took part in an Opinium poll and one of the questions they asked me if Greggs was somewhere where I consider taking somebody on a first date or romantic meal.

    I mean WTAF?

    Gregg's the sandwich shop? That Greggs?
    Some of the small shops have (or had) seats, and they also do larger shops with lots of seats.
    Oh, thanks, I didn't know that. Not much improvement but slightly better if you can at least sit down.
    Liverpool Street and Kings Cross stations have them.
    If anything could make that first date experience better than being at a Greggs, it would be a first date at a Greggs in a railway station.

    Unless they're both train buffs, of course.
    Both arriving on their own separate Deltic...
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,326
    algarkirk said:

    [Sunil jizzes himself in a frenzy over some Greggs vegan sausage rolls]

    "I'll have what he's having!"

    I really hate the Taxdodgers who own Greggs.

    But as a happy meat eater I have to say their vegan sausage rolls are lush.
    Anyone can own a bit of Greggs, it is listed on the LSE. It's on a bit of a dip at the moment.

    I like them, they operate in deeply unfashionable places and are OK. They are the Spar or Travelodge of bakers. Never first pick, not exciting but you won't starve.

    (Actually you could starve in a Travelodge with only minimal effort).
    I like their product. I just hate their tax dodging.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,212
    Quiet! All of you!

    Dr No just started on ITV.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,073
    edited May 23
    If you don't like crowds, don't go on the Elizabeth Line between Stratford and Ilford.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,073
    Just seen the Techne poll: 25% of 18-34s supporting RefUK. Amazing.

    https://x.com/DanielCreminGB/status/1925865429265768641
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,212
    Andy_JS said:

    If you don't like crowds, don't go on the Elizabeth Line between Stratford and Ilford.

    The trick is to get one of the trains that depart from Liverpool Street platform 17, you're guaranteed a seat. Trouble is they are only every 30 minutes and run between 16:10 and 18:40 inclusive.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,711
    edited May 23
    Andy_JS said:

    Just seen the Techne poll: 25% of 18-34s supporting RefUK. Amazing.

    https://x.com/DanielCreminGB/status/1925865429265768641

    22% of over 65s voting Tory, so Kemi at least can say the Tories are no longer the party of pensioners under her leadership
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 18,006
    Trump having fun with tariffs.

    just in the last 4 months, tariffs on Chinese iPhones have gone from 10% to 20% to 30% to 54% to 84% to 145% to 20% and now are threatened to go up to 45%.

    https://bsky.app/profile/josephpolitano.bsky.social/post/3lpun3u4jgs2t
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,073

    Andy_JS said:

    If you don't like crowds, don't go on the Elizabeth Line between Stratford and Ilford.

    The trick is to get one of the trains that depart from Liverpool Street platform 17, you're guaranteed a seat. Trouble is they are only every 30 minutes and run between 16:10 and 18:40 inclusive.
    Interesting, thanks. I spent a couple of nights staying in Romford so I got used to this train.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,711
    edited May 23
    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Just seen the Techne poll: 25% of 18-34s supporting RefUK. Amazing.

    https://x.com/DanielCreminGB/status/1925865429265768641

    22% of over 65s voting Tory, so Kemi at least can say the Tories are no longer the party of pensioners under her leadership
    Yougov by contrast has the Tories on 12% with 18 to 24s to 9% for Reform, the only age group Kemi's Conservatives now lead Farage's party with Yougov is under 25s. Under 25s are also the only age group the Tories are up on the last GE, where they got just 8% with the youngest voters
    https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/VotingIntention_MRP_Results_250519_w.pdf
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,073
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Just seen the Techne poll: 25% of 18-34s supporting RefUK. Amazing.

    https://x.com/DanielCreminGB/status/1925865429265768641

    22% of over 65s voting Tory, so Kemi at least can say the Tories are no longer the party of pensioners under her leadership
    Yougov by contrast has the Tories on 12% with 18 to 24s to 9% for Reform, the only age group Kemi's Conservatives now lead Farage's party with Yougov is under 25s. Under 25s are also the only age group the Tories are up on the last GE, where they got just 8% with the youngest voters
    https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/VotingIntention_MRP_Results_250519_w.pdf
    Interesting figures, looking forward to the next polls, hopefully this weekend if we're lucky.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 63,148

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I agree, but think a Bond being released in a world where Bond's ultimate imagined boss is Sir Titface somehow just wouldn't work.

    When we get rid of his Government and take a few steps in the right direction, the planets will align and Bond will return, Bezos or no.

    Moore is my favourite Bond.
    His films are amazing fun.

    Also, I did mean Bond, not Austin Powers.

    Moores villains are: Kanaga, Scaramanga, Stromberg/Jaws, Drax/Jaws, Kristatos, Orloff/Khan, and Zorin, so no especially silly names - except Jaws - and some real characters in there, and quite wonderful actors as well.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 63,148

    It won't happen, because Bezos owns it now and is a twat, but the next James Bond - I think - needs to go more in the Roger Moore direction.

    We need fun. It needs to be extremely fun. Sexy opening scenes. A bit of humour. Big Union Jack's on parachutes, balloons, submarines and cars. Sex appeal. Gorgeous women. Amazing food. Great locations. Maybe a bit less of the ooft uhft! punch scenes and eyebrow raising, though.

    We need to feel good about being British again and being the good guys.

    I agree, but think a Bond being released in a world where Bond's ultimate imagined boss is Sir Titface somehow just wouldn't work.

    When we get rid of his Government and take a few steps in the right direction, the planets will align and Bond will return, Bezos or no.

    Moore is my favourite Bond.
    A View To A Kill is my favourite Bond theme.

    #guiltypleasure
    Not a guilty pleasure - the theme is excellent and widely seen as the best thing about the film bar Grace Jones.

    The film itself is a guilty pleasure. Leading lady being a weak spot.

    Moore is much older in it, and somehow I think that it was written with an older love interest in mind - it would have seemed fitting for him to have ended up with Linda Grey - it had a Dallas/ Dynasty feel.
    He also plays a more serious Bond and it has a darker tone to it.

    Incidentally, Amberley Museum is holding a 40th anniversary reenactment of it on Sunday and the Director, John Glen - who I'm a big fan of - is coming.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 63,148
    edited May 23

    Quiet! All of you!

    Dr No just started on ITV.

    I find Moore's films more rewatchable than, say, You Only Live Twice or Diamonds are Forever.. and let's not mention (the unofficial) Never Say Never Again.

    In the later two, Connery did a far sillier Bond that anything Moore ever did, IMHO. He gets his credits from his first four ones.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,073

    Quiet! All of you!

    Dr No just started on ITV.

    I find Moore's films more rewatchable than, say, You Only Live Twice or Diamonds are Forever.. and let's not mention (the unofficial) Never Say Never Again.

    In the later two, Connery did a far sillier Bond that anything Moore ever did, IMHO. He gets his credits from his first four ones.
    Moore was a good Bond imo.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,456

    https://x.com/valdombre/status/1926029533259456590

    Mark Carney is making his staff dress properly and use British spelling in documents

    Always knew he was a good egg.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 35,073
    RobD said:

    https://x.com/valdombre/status/1926029533259456590

    Mark Carney is making his staff dress properly and use British spelling in documents

    Always knew he was a good egg.
    Yes, this proves he was the right choice all along.
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