Has the more leafy vote held up for the Tories whilst the white working class has just decamped en masse to Reform ?
It's held up better but not completely. Lichfield Rural South is above as leafy as it gets in the Midlands and the Tories held on but it was pretty close.
Ian Stuart Cooper Reform UK 1517 35% Elected Robert Steven Pritchard Conservative 1037 24% Not elected Richard John Samuel Kingstone Independent 1021 23% Not elected Gareth Coates Labour 588 14% Not elected Owxn Harrison Smith Green Party 160 4% Not elected Lisa Jane Morris UK Independence Party 27 1% Not elected
Tamworth - The Heaths
Hayley Coles Reform UK 2020 55% Elected Brett Bryan Beetham Conservative 746 20% Not elected Chris Bain Labour and Co-operative Party 595 16% Not elected Emily Walker Green Party 233 6% Not elected Tony Fergus UK Independence Party 65 2% Not elected
Tamworth - Watling
Wayne Luca Reform UK 2164 56% Elected Jeremy Oates Conservative 1004 26% Not elected Ben Clarke Labour 702 18% Not elected"
I forgot that Arron Banks is Reform candidate for Mayor of West of England.
Can't believe that Bristol could be represented by Arron Banks.
As I say, they will be rioting in the streets.
It looks like there may have been some complacency from lefties in Bristol and Bath with turnout being disappointing compared to what you'd usually expect.
Ian Stuart Cooper Reform UK 1517 35% Elected Robert Steven Pritchard Conservative 1037 24% Not elected Richard John Samuel Kingstone Independent 1021 23% Not elected Gareth Coates Labour 588 14% Not elected Owxn Harrison Smith Green Party 160 4% Not elected Lisa Jane Morris UK Independence Party 27 1% Not elected
Tamworth - The Heaths
Hayley Coles Reform UK 2020 55% Elected Brett Bryan Beetham Conservative 746 20% Not elected Chris Bain Labour and Co-operative Party 595 16% Not elected Emily Walker Green Party 233 6% Not elected Tony Fergus UK Independence Party 65 2% Not elected
Tamworth - Watling
Wayne Luca Reform UK 2164 56% Elected Jeremy Oates Conservative 1004 26% Not elected Ben Clarke Labour 702 18% Not elected"
There must be a good chance that both Labour and Conservatives will fall into the high teens in NEV share.
I could be wrong, but I think this has been quite a good evening for Reform.
Expectations were high, and they seem to have exceeded them.
If they don't win Runcorn is that a big dent to it? PR wise I think it could be.
Not if they win, say, 600 seats, and 3 - 4 Mayoralties.
I think Reform's chances in Runcorn were always overstated. Not natural Reform territory. If they don't win it, they did remarkably well to get this close.
There must be a good chance that both Labour and Conservatives will fall into the high teens in NEV share.
I could be wrong, but I think this has been quite a good evening for Reform.
Expectations were high, and they seem to have exceeded them.
If they don't win Runcorn is that a big dent to it? PR wise I think it could be.
Not if they win, say, 600 seats, and 3 - 4 Mayoralties.
I think Reform's chances in Runcorn were always overstated. Not natural Reform territory. If they don't win it, they did remarkably well to get this close.
If they do lose by 200 votes, the talk about posh Tories in Helsby voting Labour to stop Ref could indeed be an accurate account of what happened. There wouldn't be many voters in that category but there could be up to 500 or so.
There must be a good chance that both Labour and Conservatives will fall into the high teens in NEV share.
I could be wrong, but I think this has been quite a good evening for Reform.
Expectations were high, and they seem to have exceeded them.
If they don't win Runcorn is that a big dent to it? PR wise I think it could be.
Not if they win, say, 600 seats, and 3 - 4 Mayoralties.
I think Reform's chances in Runcorn were always overstated. Not natural Reform territory. If they don't win it, they did remarkably well to get this close.
There must be a good chance that both Labour and Conservatives will fall into the high teens in NEV share.
I could be wrong, but I think this has been quite a good evening for Reform.
Expectations were high, and they seem to have exceeded them.
If they don't win Runcorn is that a big dent to it? PR wise I think it could be.
Not if they win, say, 600 seats, and 3 - 4 Mayoralties.
I think Reform's chances in Runcorn were always overstated. Not natural Reform territory. If they don't win it, they did remarkably well to get this close.
Agree entirely - hoped as the first results of the night came through that they stood a good chance.
There must be a good chance that both Labour and Conservatives will fall into the high teens in NEV share.
I could be wrong, but I think this has been quite a good evening for Reform.
Expectations were high, and they seem to have exceeded them.
If they don't win Runcorn is that a big dent to it? PR wise I think it could be.
Not if they win, say, 600 seats, and 3 - 4 Mayoralties.
I think Reform's chances in Runcorn were always overstated. Not natural Reform territory. If they don't win it, they did remarkably well to get this close.
Not on politicalbetting.com they weren't. Lol.
It was considered a foregone conclusion here.
Only by rich,privately educated remainers who haven't got a clue about Reform voters
There must be a good chance that both Labour and Conservatives will fall into the high teens in NEV share.
I could be wrong, but I think this has been quite a good evening for Reform.
Expectations were high, and they seem to have exceeded them.
If they don't win Runcorn is that a big dent to it? PR wise I think it could be.
Not if they win, say, 600 seats, and 3 - 4 Mayoralties.
I think Reform's chances in Runcorn were always overstated. Not natural Reform territory. If they don't win it, they did remarkably well to get this close.
Not on politicalbetting.com they weren't. Lol.
It was considered a foregone conclusion here.
I'd say there was a range of opinions on here. I'm one of at least several who thought a Labour win more likely.
Aapl reckon they've moved the entire US bound supply chain out of China. I guess when you've got hundreds of billions of dollars in the bank you can stick up new factories in India, Vietnam or wherever pretty fast lol
There must be a good chance that both Labour and Conservatives will fall into the high teens in NEV share.
I could be wrong, but I think this has been quite a good evening for Reform.
Expectations were high, and they seem to have exceeded them.
If they don't win Runcorn is that a big dent to it? PR wise I think it could be.
Not if they win, say, 600 seats, and 3 - 4 Mayoralties.
I think Reform's chances in Runcorn were always overstated. Not natural Reform territory. If they don't win it, they did remarkably well to get this close.
Not on politicalbetting.com they weren't. Lol.
It was considered a foregone conclusion here.
I'd say there was a range of opinions on here. I'm one of at least several who thought a Labour win more likely.
For sure, there were are a few people saying otherwise, like you and MoonRabbit, but the overall consensus here was that it would be an easy Reform win.
There must be a good chance that both Labour and Conservatives will fall into the high teens in NEV share.
I could be wrong, but I think this has been quite a good evening for Reform.
Expectations were high, and they seem to have exceeded them.
If they don't win Runcorn is that a big dent to it? PR wise I think it could be.
Not if they win, say, 600 seats, and 3 - 4 Mayoralties.
I think Reform's chances in Runcorn were always overstated. Not natural Reform territory. If they don't win it, they did remarkably well to get this close.
Not on politicalbetting.com they weren't. Lol.
It was considered a foregone conclusion here.
I'd say there was a range of opinions on here. I'm one of at least several who thought a Labour win more likely.
For sure, there were are a few people saying otherwise, like you and MoonRabbit, but the overall consensus here was that it would be an easy Reform win.
That wasn't my impression, there were more people saying a close Reform win than an easy one.
Candidates in Runcorn and Helsby have been told that there are some discrepancies with the bundles of ballot papers, which could lead to further delay in the declaration.
Is it going to come down to how many people who drew a penis on their ballot paper are adjudged to have made a vote for x....
Most of the seats in Cannock Chase and East Staffordshire will go to Reform tomorrow. Those are better areas for Reform than most of the places that have already declared.
Funny thing is that about 45 minutes ago Reform people at the count were looking very gloomy, so maybe some votes were found lying around that boosted their total slightly.
Funny thing is that about 45 minutes ago Reform people at the count were looking very gloomy, so maybe some votes were found lying around that boosted their total slightly.
They may have found a bundle or two in the wrong pile.
This is the second-closest election I've ever observed after Winchester 1997 was which was a 2 vote win by the LDs, although that was a general election.
This is the second-closest election I've ever observed after Winchester 1997 was which was a 2 vote win by the LDs, although that was a general election.
It was contested by the Tories, a by-election was called, but the LDs won by quite a massive margin second time around!
In a twist, it seems the Conservatives have re-entered the race at Doncaster racecourse - site of the Doncaster mayoral count.
For most of the night, we thought it was quite close between Labour and Reform, but since the counting of the postal votes, there seems to be a surge for the Conservatives.
So it seems that this have gone from a very, very tight race between two parties to a tight race between three parties.
There is also a slight quirk in that two candidates have the surname Jones - incumbent Labour mayor Ros Jones and Reform candidate Alexander Jones.
This is the second-closest election I've ever observed after Winchester 1997 was which was a 2 vote win by the LDs, although that was a general election.
It was contested by the Tories, a by-election was called, but the LDs won by quite a massive margin second time around!
True. oh, i've just remembered the 4 vote majority in Fermanagh and South Tyrone in 2005 maybe, or 2010. Too tired to look it up.
This is the second-closest election I've ever observed after Winchester 1997 was which was a 2 vote win by the LDs, although that was a general election.
It was contested by the Tories, a by-election was called, but the LDs won by quite a massive margin second time around!
Whatever happened to the winning Liberal Democrat MP?
This is the second-closest election I've ever observed after Winchester 1997 was which was a 2 vote win by the LDs, although that was a general election.
It was contested by the Tories, a by-election was called, but the LDs won by quite a massive margin second time around!
Whatever happened to the winning Liberal Democrat MP?
I can remember someone posting on this site:
“OMG, I’ve just found out what he paid extra for!”
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I had a couple of pleasant pints with him on the day of the Tooting By Election a few years back.
@StaffordshireCC
Lichfield – Lichfield Rural East
Tracey Dougherty, Reform UK: 1197 - ELECTED
Jennifer Mackintosh, Labour Party: 357
Andrew Rushton, Lib Dem: 575
Alan White, Local Conservative: 958
Reform win from Con."
https://x.com/StaffordshireCC/status/1918105424101810254
30%+.
https://x.com/Lichfield_DC/status/1918110607263371344
https://x.com/Lichfield_DC/status/1918110625504362553
Ian Stuart Cooper Reform UK 1517 35% Elected
Robert Steven Pritchard Conservative 1037 24% Not elected
Richard John Samuel Kingstone Independent 1021 23% Not elected
Gareth Coates Labour 588 14% Not elected
Owxn Harrison Smith Green Party 160 4% Not elected
Lisa Jane Morris UK Independence Party 27 1% Not elected
Tamworth - The Heaths
Hayley Coles Reform UK 2020 55% Elected
Brett Bryan Beetham Conservative 746 20% Not elected
Chris Bain Labour and Co-operative Party 595 16% Not elected
Emily Walker Green Party 233 6% Not elected
Tony Fergus UK Independence Party 65 2% Not elected
Tamworth - Watling
Wayne Luca Reform UK 2164 56% Elected
Jeremy Oates Conservative 1004 26% Not elected
Ben Clarke Labour 702 18% Not elected"
https://vote-2012.proboards.com/posts/recent
It was considered a foregone conclusion here.
Let’s see.
My record on by-elections and general elections is pretty good.
On referenda and Trump-elections, it’s shit.
I guess when you've got hundreds of billions of dollars in the bank you can stick up new factories in India, Vietnam or wherever pretty fast lol
Wow.
Is it going to come down to how many people who drew a penis on their ballot paper are adjudged to have made a vote for x....
Sometimes the returning officer lets the counters go home for a few hours in these circumstances.
Any negotiation with the EU could be characterised as trying a sneaky unravelling of Brexit.
They add that Labour asked for the full recount that’s now happening.
Separately, two other party officials confirm that Reform UK were four votes ahead of Labour on the first count.
For most of the night, we thought it was quite close between Labour and Reform, but since the counting of the postal votes, there seems to be a surge for the Conservatives.
So it seems that this have gone from a very, very tight race between two parties to a tight race between three parties.
There is also a slight quirk in that two candidates have the surname Jones - incumbent Labour mayor Ros Jones and Reform candidate Alexander Jones.
“OMG, I’ve just found out what he paid extra for!”
Lab 51,197 (24.97%)
RefUK 45,252 (22.07%)
Green 41,094 (20.04%)
Con 34,092 (16.63%)
LD 28,711 (14.00%)
Scott Ind 4,682 (2.28%)
Lab 23,805
Reform 23,107
Con 18,982
Grn 2,449