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  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,921

    Leon said:

    I have to say the Kirghiz people seem singularly unmoved by the unexpectedly tight results in the Maritimes. A definite lack of election buzz here in Bishkek. People are just wandering around, drinking coffee, yawning - it’s almost as if they don’t care

    My guess? They’re faking indifference because it’s TOO exciting - like football fans unable to watch a penalty shoot out and pretending to do the dishes

    F*ck off then? It's politicalbetting.com. And it's an election night.
    Bro, it’s a joke. I’m mocking our geekiness - me very much included

    I’m fascinated by the Canuck elex. I’m pointing out that 99.94% of humanity - esp in Central Asia - is not
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,339
    If I was commentating on CBC, they would kill me. I can't pronounce any of the ridings. :(
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    rcs1000 said:

    In Trois-Rivières, the incumbent BQ are currently running third behind the Liberals and the Conservatives.

    At the last election, it was 29.5 BQ, 29.4 Conservative, 28.6 Liberal.

    Currently, that order is reversed.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,921
    viewcode said:

    If I was commentating on CBC, they would kill me. I can't pronounce any of the ridings. :(

    I love the fact they are called Ridings. A glimpse of the Britannic ancestry
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    rcs1000 said:

    In Trois-Rivières, the incumbent BQ are currently running third behind the Liberals and the Conservatives.

    Only around 500 votes reporting though.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480
    edited 1:40AM
    Looks like it will firm up at 3 Conservative Gains in the Maritimes, and one Liberal Gain. Net Conservative Gain of 2.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    edited 1:41AM
    I can never understand why the Conservatives do so well in that southern area of Quebec province where 99% speak French, especially around the Beauce constituency.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,921
    edited 1:43AM

    That’s good. Also, thank god the Canucks very sensibly have the lefties in red and the righties in blue

    Why the F did America choose to be exceptional and have it the other way round, unlike every other country on earth. Even now when I see “red states” or “blue voters” I have to remind myself that means right wing states and left wing voters
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526

    Looks like it will firm up at 3 Conservative Gains in the Maritimes, and one Liberal Gain. Net Conservative Gain of 2.

    I think that's exactly what the YouGov MRP predicted: +2 for the Cons in the Maritimes.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480
    Andy_JS said:

    I can never understand why the Conservatives do so well in that southern area of Quebec province where 99% speak French, especially around the Beauce constituency.

    I haven't checked, but like there used to be Tartan Tories who voted SNP you can get Croissant Conservateurs who sometimes vote BQ and sometimes Conservative, especially if the candidate is French Canadian.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    Early days, but looks like there will be a lot of turnover (in all directions) in Quebec.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,921
    Aaaargh we’re boarding. I won’t know the vote til I land in Istanbul
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480
    rcs1000 said:

    Looks like it will firm up at 3 Conservative Gains in the Maritimes, and one Liberal Gain. Net Conservative Gain of 2.

    I think that's exactly what the YouGov MRP predicted: +2 for the Cons in the Maritimes.
    YouGov MRP looks good, but I wonder if the Liberals will just fall short of a majority.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see 10-15 unexpected Conservative gains.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526

    rcs1000 said:

    Looks like it will firm up at 3 Conservative Gains in the Maritimes, and one Liberal Gain. Net Conservative Gain of 2.

    I think that's exactly what the YouGov MRP predicted: +2 for the Cons in the Maritimes.
    YouGov MRP looks good, but I wonder if the Liberals will just fall short of a majority.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see 10-15 unexpected Conservative gains.
    I think that's quite possible. But I can't see anything in these numbers that make me think that Pierre is in with a realistic shot of becoming PM.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Looks like it will firm up at 3 Conservative Gains in the Maritimes, and one Liberal Gain. Net Conservative Gain of 2.

    I think that's exactly what the YouGov MRP predicted: +2 for the Cons in the Maritimes.
    YouGov MRP looks good, but I wonder if the Liberals will just fall short of a majority.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see 10-15 unexpected Conservative gains.
    I think that's quite possible. But I can't see anything in these numbers that make me think that Pierre is in with a realistic shot of becoming PM.
    I agree. It's now about when I go to bed, not how squeaky my bum is.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    "M&S left with empty shelves as cyber attack fallout deepens
    More than £500m wiped off high street retailer’s market value amid disruptions"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/04/28/almost-800m-wiped-ms-online-orders-halted-fourth-day/
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    edited 1:51AM

    rcs1000 said:

    Looks like it will firm up at 3 Conservative Gains in the Maritimes, and one Liberal Gain. Net Conservative Gain of 2.

    I think that's exactly what the YouGov MRP predicted: +2 for the Cons in the Maritimes.
    YouGov MRP looks good, but I wonder if the Liberals will just fall short of a majority.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see 10-15 unexpected Conservative gains.
    At Canadian general elections only one thing really matters: how the parties do in the Greater Toronto Area. I've watched lots of these elections where the whole narrative gets turned on its head by what happens there. The Liberals might sweep most of that area and then they win a big majority. What happens elsewhere isn't very important.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,921
    edited 1:52AM
    rcs1000 said:

    Early days, but looks like there will be a lot of turnover (in all directions) in Quebec.

    Trump must be especially confusing for quebecois separatists. On the one hand there will be an urge to unite with all Canada against the feared southern foe, on the other hand it must alienate some against all anglophone politics
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480
    Ontario: Conservatives may pick up Markham—Stouffville in Ontario, but very early, but they will lose Essex.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480
    Andy_JS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Looks like it will firm up at 3 Conservative Gains in the Maritimes, and one Liberal Gain. Net Conservative Gain of 2.

    I think that's exactly what the YouGov MRP predicted: +2 for the Cons in the Maritimes.
    YouGov MRP looks good, but I wonder if the Liberals will just fall short of a majority.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see 10-15 unexpected Conservative gains.
    At Canadian general elections only one thing really matters: how the parties do in the Greater Toronto Area. I've watched lots of these elections where the whole narrative gets turned on its head by what happens there. The Liberals might sweep most of that area and then they win a big majority. What happens elsewhere isn't very important.
    Over half of all Canadians live in the Quebec City–Windsor Corridor.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Early days, but looks like there will be a lot of turnover (in all directions) in Quebec.

    Trump must be especially confusing for quebecois separatists. On the one hand there will be an urge to unite with all Canada against the feared southern foe, on the other hand it must alienate some against all anglophone politics
    Looking at the early numbers, the BQ is getting whupped, with both Conservatives and Liberals benefiting. (There's more Liberal benefit, but I think the Conservatives will pick up a seat or two.)
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,621

    Andy_JS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Looks like it will firm up at 3 Conservative Gains in the Maritimes, and one Liberal Gain. Net Conservative Gain of 2.

    I think that's exactly what the YouGov MRP predicted: +2 for the Cons in the Maritimes.
    YouGov MRP looks good, but I wonder if the Liberals will just fall short of a majority.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see 10-15 unexpected Conservative gains.
    At Canadian general elections only one thing really matters: how the parties do in the Greater Toronto Area. I've watched lots of these elections where the whole narrative gets turned on its head by what happens there. The Liberals might sweep most of that area and then they win a big majority. What happens elsewhere isn't very important.
    Over half of all Canadians live in the Quebec City–Windsor Corridor.
    So that is where Trump attacks...
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480
    Given we took the Plains of Abraham they should really rename the riding Montcalm, Wolfe.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480
    rcs1000 said:

    Katherine Swampy of the NDP is currently leading in Leduc-Wetaskiwin.

    There's no electoral value in me sharing that with you lot; but I thought both her name and her riding name were notably weird and deserved more exposure.

    I expect the BQ to shed a few seats to the Liberals in the (very) greater Montreal area. The Conservatives may pick up a couple elsewhere.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,921
    TwiX is reporting that the UK has yielded to India’s visa demands. I’ve no idea if this is true

    IF this is true it’s another paragraph in Labour’s loooooooooong suicide note
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480
    Liberals at 1.02 for most seats on Betfair.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,278
    It won't surprise you that Canada does well on the size of "subdivisions". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_first-level_administrative_divisions_by_area

    Could I have found "Nunavut" on a map before this election? Probably not. But I might have gotten it on a multiple choice question. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunavut
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480
    Ok laid off all my liability at 1.03, because I want to sleep. Only cost me £15.

    I should be up just over £200, and another £35 if it's a Liberal minority. Will drop a tenner on Carleton I suspect, as PP won't lose his seat on these figures.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,567
    edited 2:06AM
    Leon said:

    TwiX is reporting that the UK has yielded to India’s visa demands. I’ve no idea if this is true

    IF this is true it’s another paragraph in Labour’s loooooooooong suicide note

    India has accepted that Britain will only offer minor changes to its visa regime as negotiations for a trade deal enter their final stages.

    "The new rules will lead to around 100 new visas for Indian workers each year, a U.K. official told POLITICO."
    https://www.politico.eu/article/india-visa-new-rules-pave-way-uk-trade-deal/

    Not sure anybody is going to notice another 100 Indians when you are taking a million other immigrants.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    Conservatives look like they'll clean sweep ridings with the name "mountain" in them. BQ only doing well in ridings with unpronounceable French names.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480
    Goodnight all.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526

    Leon said:

    TwiX is reporting that the UK has yielded to India’s visa demands. I’ve no idea if this is true

    IF this is true it’s another paragraph in Labour’s loooooooooong suicide note

    India has accepted that Britain will only offer minor changes to its visa regime as negotiations for a trade deal enter their final stages.

    "The new rules will lead to around 100 new visas for Indian workers each year, a U.K. official told POLITICO."
    https://www.politico.eu/article/india-visa-new-rules-pave-way-uk-trade-deal/

    Not sure anybody is going to notice another 100 Indians when you are taking a million other immigrants.
    Although, to be fair, HMG has form when it comes to misestimating the number of people likely to travel to the UK.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526

    Goodnight all.

    Goodnight @Casino_Royale
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    By the way, I only know two Canadian voters. They're both in a safe riding in Saskatchewan, and I think they both will vote for the losing Liberal candidate.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,145
    Blanchet’s dreadful comments about Canada look like they’re going to come back and hurt the BQ . Deservedly so .
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,921

    Leon said:

    TwiX is reporting that the UK has yielded to India’s visa demands. I’ve no idea if this is true

    IF this is true it’s another paragraph in Labour’s loooooooooong suicide note

    India has accepted that Britain will only offer minor changes to its visa regime as negotiations for a trade deal enter their final stages.

    "The new rules will lead to around 100 new visas for Indian workers each year, a U.K. official told POLITICO."
    https://www.politico.eu/article/india-visa-new-rules-pave-way-uk-trade-deal/

    Not sure anybody is going to notice another 100 Indians when you are taking a million other immigrants.
    Bloomberg has a very different take

    My reflexive presumption is that Labour will have achieved the worst deal possible for the UK, especially for its poorer native workers

    BUT we don’t know yet
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,145
    Yesss !

    The LPC projected to win .
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,567
    edited 2:13AM
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    TwiX is reporting that the UK has yielded to India’s visa demands. I’ve no idea if this is true

    IF this is true it’s another paragraph in Labour’s loooooooooong suicide note

    India has accepted that Britain will only offer minor changes to its visa regime as negotiations for a trade deal enter their final stages.

    "The new rules will lead to around 100 new visas for Indian workers each year, a U.K. official told POLITICO."
    https://www.politico.eu/article/india-visa-new-rules-pave-way-uk-trade-deal/

    Not sure anybody is going to notice another 100 Indians when you are taking a million other immigrants.
    Bloomberg has a very different take

    My reflexive presumption is that Labour will have achieved the worst deal possible for the UK, especially for its poorer native workers

    BUT we don’t know yet
    Youa re certainly right to be sceptical. On the evidence so far they are about as good at the Art of the Deal as Trump. Although unlike Trump I am not sure they are exactly trying that hard.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,339
    CBC projecting a Liberal Govt, although whether minority or majority is not specified. Trump to Poilievre: drop dead. Now let's see what happens in Australia.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,921

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    TwiX is reporting that the UK has yielded to India’s visa demands. I’ve no idea if this is true

    IF this is true it’s another paragraph in Labour’s loooooooooong suicide note

    India has accepted that Britain will only offer minor changes to its visa regime as negotiations for a trade deal enter their final stages.

    "The new rules will lead to around 100 new visas for Indian workers each year, a U.K. official told POLITICO."
    https://www.politico.eu/article/india-visa-new-rules-pave-way-uk-trade-deal/

    Not sure anybody is going to notice another 100 Indians when you are taking a million other immigrants.
    Bloomberg has a very different take

    My reflexive presumption is that Labour will have achieved the worst deal possible for the UK, especially for its poorer native workers

    BUT we don’t know yet
    Youa re certainly right to be sceptical. On the evidence so far they are about as good at the Art of the Deal as Trump. Although unlike Trump I am not sure they are exactly trying that hard.
    They do try hard. They try hard to fuck over Britain and British people and the British interest: Every Single Time
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    With British Colombia still to come, I think it's highly likely that the Liberals outpoll the Conservatives - probably by 3 percentage points or more.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,921
    rcs1000 said:

    With British Colombia still to come, I think it's highly likely that the Liberals outpoll the Conservatives - probably by 3 percentage points or more.

    Even though I’m on the right I would prefer that outcome. Governments winning power while losing the popular vote always makes me faintly nauseous


    That utter c*nt Trump is fucking up the new right across the world
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    With British Colombia still to come, I think it's highly likely that the Liberals outpoll the Conservatives - probably by 3 percentage points or more.

    Even though I’m on the right I would prefer that outcome. Governments winning power while losing the popular vote always makes me faintly nauseous


    That utter c*nt Trump is fucking up the new right across the world
    Oh, he's almost certainly going to result in "woke" becoming more entrenched, because oppositionalism.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,145
    Don’t underestimate the appeal of Mark Carney who was the perfect candidate to bring this astonishing turnaround in the Libs fortunes .

    Calm , charismatic and scrubs up well .
  • vikvik Posts: 280
    viewcode said:

    CBC projecting a Liberal Govt, although whether minority or majority is not specified. Trump to Poilievre: drop dead. Now let's see what happens in Australia.

    Dutton is another Trump minime, just like Poilievre. He will hopefully meet the same political fate.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    edited 2:24AM
    nico67 said:

    Don’t underestimate the appeal of Mark Carney who was the perfect candidate to bring this astonishing turnaround in the Libs fortunes .

    Calm , charismatic and scrubs up well .

    He leaves me cold. Don't understand his appeal at all.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,921

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    TwiX is reporting that the UK has yielded to India’s visa demands. I’ve no idea if this is true

    IF this is true it’s another paragraph in Labour’s loooooooooong suicide note

    India has accepted that Britain will only offer minor changes to its visa regime as negotiations for a trade deal enter their final stages.

    "The new rules will lead to around 100 new visas for Indian workers each year, a U.K. official told POLITICO."
    https://www.politico.eu/article/india-visa-new-rules-pave-way-uk-trade-deal/

    Not sure anybody is going to notice another 100 Indians when you are taking a million other immigrants.
    Bloomberg has a very different take

    My reflexive presumption is that Labour will have achieved the worst deal possible for the UK, especially for its poorer native workers

    BUT we don’t know yet
    Youa re certainly right to be sceptical. On the evidence so far they are about as good at the Art of the Deal as Trump. Although unlike Trump I am not sure they are exactly trying that hard.
    What was the Labour prediction after Blair opened the gates to Eastern Europe? We expect 11,000? In the end 1 million came

    Given that Starmer is infinity times worse than Blair if Starmer’s predicting “100 Indians” that actually suggests 100,000,000 will arrive at Gatwick
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,145
    It’s been tough for Liberal leaning people with the trauma of the Trump win so I’m incredibly happy at the LPC win .

    And it will annoy the right wing media here so even more enjoyable.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    Andy_JS said:

    nico67 said:

    Don’t underestimate the appeal of Mark Carney who was the perfect candidate to bring this astonishing turnaround in the Libs fortunes .

    Calm , charismatic and scrubs up well .

    He leaves me cold. Don't understand his appeal at all.
    Not Trump.
    Not Trudeau.
    Seems vaguely competent.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    TwiX is reporting that the UK has yielded to India’s visa demands. I’ve no idea if this is true

    IF this is true it’s another paragraph in Labour’s loooooooooong suicide note

    India has accepted that Britain will only offer minor changes to its visa regime as negotiations for a trade deal enter their final stages.

    "The new rules will lead to around 100 new visas for Indian workers each year, a U.K. official told POLITICO."
    https://www.politico.eu/article/india-visa-new-rules-pave-way-uk-trade-deal/

    Not sure anybody is going to notice another 100 Indians when you are taking a million other immigrants.
    Bloomberg has a very different take

    My reflexive presumption is that Labour will have achieved the worst deal possible for the UK, especially for its poorer native workers

    BUT we don’t know yet
    Youa re certainly right to be sceptical. On the evidence so far they are about as good at the Art of the Deal as Trump. Although unlike Trump I am not sure they are exactly trying that hard.
    What was the Labour prediction after Blair opened the gates to Eastern Europe? We expect 11,000? In the end 1 million came

    Given that Starmer is infinity times worse than Blair if Starmer’s predicting “100 Indians” that actually suggests 100,000,000 will arrive at Gatwick
    Keith Vaz went to Stansted Airport on the first day and made jokes when only one person arrived.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,921
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    With British Colombia still to come, I think it's highly likely that the Liberals outpoll the Conservatives - probably by 3 percentage points or more.

    Even though I’m on the right I would prefer that outcome. Governments winning power while losing the popular vote always makes me faintly nauseous


    That utter c*nt Trump is fucking up the new right across the world
    Oh, he's almost certainly going to result in "woke" becoming more entrenched, because oppositionalism.
    Certainly possible in the Anglosphere

    However I believe it’s a delay rather than a diversion. The pendulum swing will come but Trump has likely set it back a few years. Stupid twat that he is
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,145
    Andy_JS said:

    nico67 said:

    Don’t underestimate the appeal of Mark Carney who was the perfect candidate to bring this astonishing turnaround in the Libs fortunes .

    Calm , charismatic and scrubs up well .

    He leaves me cold. Don't understand his appeal at all.
    People liked his calm manner and wanted someone with experience. Poilievre is a career politician who until recently was using Trumpian language , attacking the media and threatening to defund the CBC .
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    It's going to be very close whether Carney gets an absolute majority or not; I reckon he's headed for 170-175 seats.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,540
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    With British Colombia still to come, I think it's highly likely that the Liberals outpoll the Conservatives - probably by 3 percentage points or more.

    Even though I’m on the right I would prefer that outcome. Governments winning power while losing the popular vote always makes me faintly nauseous


    That utter c*nt Trump is fucking up the new right across the world
    Oh, he's almost certainly going to result in "woke" becoming more entrenched, because oppositionalism.
    The Trump government is belligerent, stupid, but actually ineffectual in advancing the Right.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,921
    edited 2:30AM
    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    TwiX is reporting that the UK has yielded to India’s visa demands. I’ve no idea if this is true

    IF this is true it’s another paragraph in Labour’s loooooooooong suicide note

    India has accepted that Britain will only offer minor changes to its visa regime as negotiations for a trade deal enter their final stages.

    "The new rules will lead to around 100 new visas for Indian workers each year, a U.K. official told POLITICO."
    https://www.politico.eu/article/india-visa-new-rules-pave-way-uk-trade-deal/

    Not sure anybody is going to notice another 100 Indians when you are taking a million other immigrants.
    Bloomberg has a very different take

    My reflexive presumption is that Labour will have achieved the worst deal possible for the UK, especially for its poorer native workers

    BUT we don’t know yet
    Youa re certainly right to be sceptical. On the evidence so far they are about as good at the Art of the Deal as Trump. Although unlike Trump I am not sure they are exactly trying that hard.
    What was the Labour prediction after Blair opened the gates to Eastern Europe? We expect 11,000? In the end 1 million came

    Given that Starmer is infinity times worse than Blair if Starmer’s predicting “100 Indians” that actually suggests 100,000,000 will arrive at Gatwick
    Keith Vaz went to Stansted Airport on the first day and made jokes when only one person arrived.
    Yes I remember


    Then incredibly they did the same for Bulgaria and Romania. Oh, only a few will come. Let’s make jokes at airports etc

    100,000s came
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,540
    rcs1000 said:

    It's going to be very close whether Carney gets an absolute majority or not; I reckon he's headed for 170-175 seats.

    Which suggests 145-150 Conservatives.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    edited 2:36AM
    Seat count at present. including leading not elected

    Lib 150
    Con 128
    BQ 22
    NDP 7

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJL-Kpt6lUw
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,339
    The Libs may yet take Terra Nova-The Peninsulas on the Atlantic side.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    Andy_JS said:

    Seat count at present. including leading not elected

    Lib 150
    Con 128
    BQ 22
    NDP 7

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJL-Kpt6lUw

    Now

    152
    129
    22
    7

    Points to about 170 for the Libs.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,339
    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Seat count at present. including leading not elected

    Lib 150
    Con 128
    BQ 22
    NDP 7

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJL-Kpt6lUw

    Now

    152
    129
    22
    7

    Points to about 170 for the Libs.
    Vote share as about 3 minutes ago

    Liberal
    50%
    Conservative
    38.5%
    Bloc Québécois
    4.9%
    New Democrat
    4.4%
    Green
    1%
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    edited 2:42AM
    Both the results pages I was using are not working atm: the official page, and the CBC page.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    The 338 site was saying a 65% chance of a Liberal majority just before voting ended, but now it's on a knife-edge. So looks as if the polls and prediction pages did overestimate the Liberals a bit.
  • vikvik Posts: 280
    Andy_JS said:

    Both the results pages I was using are not working atm: the official page, and the CBC page.

    The Canadians probably were not expecting so much worldwide interest in their election.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    Andy_JS said:

    The 338 site was saying a 65% chance of a Liberal majority just before voting ended, but now it's on a knife-edge. So looks as if the polls and prediction pages did overestimate the Liberals a bit.

    Yep, it's going to be super close whether they make it.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The 338 site was saying a 65% chance of a Liberal majority just before voting ended, but now it's on a knife-edge. So looks as if the polls and prediction pages did overestimate the Liberals a bit.

    Yep, it's going to be super close whether they make it.
    My gut right now is that they fall just short (say 170 seats), but they could easily end up on 175 or 165.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    Sean_F said:

    rcs1000 said:

    It's going to be very close whether Carney gets an absolute majority or not; I reckon he's headed for 170-175 seats.

    Which suggests 145-150 Conservatives.
    Probably more like 142/143 Con
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    Bloc Quebecois looking like they're hanging on with very low vote shares in close races. I thought they'd have fewer than 20 seats, and it looks like they'll be more like 25.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    edited 2:56AM
    vote share latest

    Lib 44.4%
    Con 40.8%

    https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/federal/2025/results/#/

    Lots of votes in Alberta still to be counted.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    Andy_JS said:

    vote share latest

    Lib 44.4%
    Con 40.8%

    https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/federal/2025/results/#/

    Lots of votes in Alberta still to be counted.

    Most of British Colombia still to come, which is the weakest area for the Conservatives vote share-wise. (Still a bunch of Saskatchewan and Alberta, mind, where they will be very strong.)
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    Eric Grenier just said the Tories are doing better than might have been expected in suburban Toronto.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    Andy_JS said:

    Eric Grenier just said the Tories are doing better than might have been expected in suburban Toronto.

    Yep: they could well be only 15 seats behind.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,339
    I'm going to bed, folks. I don't know whether the Libs will get most votes, but I'm less panicky than what I was. I'll find out in the morning. Nighty-night, don't let the bed bugs bite.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    This is certainly the most interesting Canadian I've watched. First one was around 2011 IIRC.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,278
    As of now, the Conservatives + BQ + NDP together lead in 173 ridings. Update: 177.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,540
    With both main parties polling at, or just above 40%, I expect that the electoral system favours the Liberals, less than usual.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    edited 3:07AM
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    edited 3:08AM
    seats

    Lib 156
    Con 146
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,278
    Here's your headline: "True Grits Win Narrowly, With Help From True Grift".
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    Less than 10 seats difference

    Lib 156
    Con 148
  • DoubleCarpetDoubleCarpet Posts: 937
    155-149 & backed Con most seats at 120-1.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    Andy_JS said:

    Less than 10 seats difference

    Lib 156
    Con 148

    Worth noting that in the Maritimes, the last votes in the each Riding (which were the early votes) seemed to boost the Liberal share meaningfully.

    St Margarets, for example, was neck-and-neck at 60% counted... and I just looked now and it's a 10 point Liberal lead.

    And Terra Nova - The Peninsulas was called for the Conservatives. But now looks like it might flip, with the last few polling places all giving big boosts to the Liberals.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Less than 10 seats difference

    Lib 156
    Con 148

    Worth noting that in the Maritimes, the last votes in the each Riding (which were the early votes) seemed to boost the Liberal share meaningfully.

    St Margarets, for example, was neck-and-neck at 60% counted... and I just looked now and it's a 10 point Liberal lead.

    And Terra Nova - The Peninsulas was called for the Conservatives. But now looks like it might flip, with the last few polling places all giving big boosts to the Liberals.
    Interesting. The popular vote is going to be very close again because Alberta hasn't reported that many votes.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    Lib 154
    Con 152
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    154-152 now! Squeaky bum time! Could the Libs win the popular vote but end up behind by a seat or two?

    Personally, I suspect not, but it's certainly *very* close.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    rcs1000 said:

    154-152 now! Squeaky bum time! Could the Libs win the popular vote but end up behind by a seat or two?

    Personally, I suspect not, but it's certainly *very* close.

    They called it slightly wrong about an hour ago, but I wasn't surprised by that.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,621
    Andy_JS said:

    Eric Grenier just said the Tories are doing better than might have been expected in suburban Toronto.

    That depends when you asked about those expectations - 6 days or 6 months ago...
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,773
    Went to 154-152

    Now 155-151

    Betfair: Con were 1,000 - and over £200 matched at 1,000!
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368

    Andy_JS said:

    Eric Grenier just said the Tories are doing better than might have been expected in suburban Toronto.

    That depends when you asked about those expectations - 6 days or 6 months ago...
    Compared to the last few weeks I think, not earlier.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    Andy_JS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Less than 10 seats difference

    Lib 156
    Con 148

    Worth noting that in the Maritimes, the last votes in the each Riding (which were the early votes) seemed to boost the Liberal share meaningfully.

    St Margarets, for example, was neck-and-neck at 60% counted... and I just looked now and it's a 10 point Liberal lead.

    And Terra Nova - The Peninsulas was called for the Conservatives. But now looks like it might flip, with the last few polling places all giving big boosts to the Liberals.
    Interesting. The popular vote is going to be very close again because Alberta hasn't reported that many votes.
    While that's true of Alberta, it's also true of British Colombia, which is the Conservatives weakest province.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    There are some massive differences in constituency size in Canada: from 20,000 or so, all the way up to close to 100,000.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    Now 156-149.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,526
    rcs1000 said:

    Now 156-149.

    157-148
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,567
    Sounds like needs a rematch.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,368
    Elected only (excluding leading)

    Con 115
    Lib 110
    BQ 20
    NDP 1
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,253
    rcs1000 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    DM_Andy said:

    Question for the brains trust? How long before the final vote count is complete? Hours or Days?

    It mostly gets done within about 10 hours, usually, going from previous elections as I recall.
    Showing the Americans have no excuse.
    The problem is that there are at least 50 different things that Americas (particularly Californians) are voting for at any time. There's Councilmen, and Assembymen, and Senators, and Attorney Generals, and Secretary of States, and Governors, and Congressmen, and then there are tens of ballot propositions.
    The West Wing did a vaguely amusing three minutes on the complexity of American voting.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDNmB72Bg0Y
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