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SystemSystem Posts: 12,437
edited April 28 in General
As we wait for the first result – politicalbetting.com

??? Quick thread on some of our findings ahead of today's Canadian election.Our headline results put the Liberals ahead, but we've uncovered evidence that the Conservatives may have won the election (or at least the most seats) if Trump had not won in November.

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  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,856
    Well
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,185
    @atrupar.com‬

    "We're gonna ensure that our truckers, who are the backbone of our policy, are all able to speak English" -- Leavitt says Trump will sign an order demanding that all truckers can speak English

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lnvdmfgu7s2q
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,856
    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    "We're gonna ensure that our truckers, who are the backbone of our policy, are all able to speak English" -- Leavitt says Trump will sign an order demanding that all truckers can speak English

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lnvdmfgu7s2q

    Fuckin loon.
    (Trump, not you.)
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,856
    I somehow missed this hilarious moment from Rome: After all of Trump’s constant attacks on Canada’s sovereignty, a Canadian citizen asked President Biden if he thinks Canada is truly independent.

    Biden gave a big smile and said:
    "Of course it’s an independent country. It’s a great independent country. If I were defecting, I’d go to Canada!"

    https://x.com/ChrisDJackson/status/1916874688304738743
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,714
    I am ready, man! Ready to get it on!
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,707
    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Hung?
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,102
    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480
    Brisk. Steady. Slow Cold. Ice Hockey. Maple Syrup. Record levels.

    Etc.
  • Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is a plant's lunch.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480
    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,368

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    HMG should be focused on deepening ties with Canada, not the US.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,937
    RobD said:

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    HMG should be focused on deepening ties with Canada, not the US.
    We could give Canada the 2028 Open golf.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,973

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    The UK needs to do something to deserve that loyalty and the economic opportunity it presents. We’ve spent too much of the last few months brownnosing Trump and too little paying attention to Canada.

    Just out from over an hour’s immigration queue at Chicago. I thought all those depressed visitor numbers might have thinned out the queues, but seemingly not today.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,185
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,856
    Is Trump about to bankrupt another casino ?

    MGM laying off all concierge staff at all Vegas resorts except Aria and Bellagio; closing buffet at Excalibur, parking staff reductions due to lower visitor counts and demand.

    The Golden Age continues..

    https://x.com/BonkDaCarnivore/status/1916670135789576431
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,710
    I take it that the Canadian Election was today :smile: .
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,710
    edited April 28
    FPT:

    Can anyone tell me why Ukraine should observe the Russian three day ceasefire so that Putin can have his parade in Moscow without fear of drones attacking left, right and centre? No doubt the Russians could use the three days to get some respite for the depleted forces. If Ukraine agrees it will surely be because its supporters have not just gone wobbly but turned into jelly. We have what looks like a surprisingly hawkish German government coming into office at which moment Europe (including UK) will quietly betray Ukraine so as not to displease Donald Trump.

    Perhaps to spike Putin's narrative.

    I have not seen the dates of Putin's ceasefire, but I presume it is to avoid having drones and missiles slathering the military targets in Red Square on Parade Day.

    I'm sure there will be some military targets there the day before the ceasefire starts, or some potholes on the route that need enlarging enough to meet the Moscow Council spec to be deep enough to need repairing,so Ukr could help with that. It is within range of Neptune Extended Range version.

    In Nottinghamshire they seem to need to be the size of a small artillery crater before the County Council turn up. It's also a Highlands' speciality:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0434kvrp24o
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,856

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Hung?
    .. within the margin of error.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,657
    TimS said:

    Have the Tories and Labour stumbled on the secret recipe to suppress the Reform vote?

    via @tombaldwin66.bsky.social

    "when I walked around one of the constituency’s more well-to-do areas last week a woman told me she was backing Labour for the 1st time because of what the reputational damage of having a Reform MP 'might mean for our property prices'

    www.thetimes.com/comment/colu...


    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3lnvajtirhc2l

    The wife is adamant that she can only vote for a party that can be bothered to leaflet us. For the longest time that was the Tories. Four times, in fact. But at the weekend Reform came round, and she met a leafletter in the street. Described him as looking like an ex BNP member.
    Do not suspect she will be voting Reform…
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,709

    TimS said:

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    The UK needs to do something to deserve that loyalty and the economic opportunity it presents. We’ve spent too much of the last few months brownnosing Trump and too little paying attention to Canada.

    Just out from over an hour’s immigration queue at Chicago. I thought all those depressed visitor numbers might have thinned out the queues, but seemingly not today.
    I get embarrassed by the remarkable and steadfast loyalty Canada consistently shows us, and which we don't repay in kind.

    It's our ultimate fallback, and was even where the whole British government and state planned to retreat to had the UK been overrun in WW2.
    But they have French speaking secessionists, like Scot Nats but French.

    I always liked the loyalty the Aussies and New Zealanders have given us too.

    From Gallipoli to Bob Muldoon's comments over the Falklands.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,102
    “ we think we should be cautious. The 'wisdom of the crowd' method, which successfully predicted Trump's swing state victories in November, points towards a polling error and a Conservative victory today.”

    Trumps Swing State victories were not exactly a polling error.

    But nor would Liberals having to go into opposition from these results come as a huge shock. The Wisdom of the Crowd method is to be respected. The fuss about who can best handle Trump, and a change of leader to pretend the voters have the change they have made up their mind for, isn’t going to work. The voters had clearly made up their mind to change party in government and give others a go, it would be actually be a surprise if Libs can come back from that, on the flimsiness of a leader swap out and a who best to handle Trump, campaign. .
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,973
    On the freeway into Chicago and the line up of cars passing me: Audi, Hyundai, Mazda, Mazda, Porsche, Lexus, Toyota, finally a Chevrolet, oh and a Land Rover defender. Then another Chevrolet. Honda, Ford, Toyota. The Chevys in particular look so old fashioned and clunky next to the foreign cars. Like they’re from another era.

    Forget tariffs: build better cars and US consumers might buy them.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,710

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,709
    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,102
    edited April 28

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,102
    edited April 28

    TimS said:

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    The UK needs to do something to deserve that loyalty and the economic opportunity it presents. We’ve spent too much of the last few months brownnosing Trump and too little paying attention to Canada.

    Just out from over an hour’s immigration queue at Chicago. I thought all those depressed visitor numbers might have thinned out the queues, but seemingly not today.
    I get embarrassed by the remarkable and steadfast loyalty Canada consistently shows us, and which we don't repay in kind.

    It's our ultimate fallback, and was even where the whole British government and state planned to retreat to had the UK been overrun in WW2.
    Churchill wasn’t going to go. He was determined to wait in the bunker with a gun and go down fighting. 🇬🇧

    I think we moved the gold and Crown Jewels to Canada?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,281

    TimS said:

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    The UK needs to do something to deserve that loyalty and the economic opportunity it presents. We’ve spent too much of the last few months brownnosing Trump and too little paying attention to Canada.

    Just out from over an hour’s immigration queue at Chicago. I thought all those depressed visitor numbers might have thinned out the queues, but seemingly not today.
    I get embarrassed by the remarkable and steadfast loyalty Canada consistently shows us, and which we don't repay in kind.

    It's our ultimate fallback, and was even where the whole British government and state planned to retreat to had the UK been overrun in WW2.
    Churchill wasn’t going to go. He was determined to wait in the bunker with a gun and go down fighting. 🇬🇧

    I think we moved the gold and Crown Jewels to Canada?
    Churchill wanted to fight from a sandbag emplacement outside the door to No.10 - just big enough for a chair. Legend has it that it was to have a shelf for a whisky decanter as well as mags for his favourite Thompson submachine gun.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,364
    O/T

    Andy_JS said:

    It's weird to think I was using the Porto metro yesterday afternoon and today it was apparently down due to the power outage. Some people must have missed their flights today if they were relying on it to get there.

    Are you still there or back here?
    Came back yesterday evening. Lovely place.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,856
    edited April 28
    Bob I knew about; the other one not so much.

    Moog Inc. creates components for space vehicles and the F35. Moog Music Inc. creates synthesizers

    One (was) run by Bill Moog, the other (was) run by Bob Moog. They are cousins.

    One put’s stuff in space, the other makes space sounds.

    Oh, and they both went to Cornell.

    https://x.com/lauriewired/status/1916951710008021019
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,336

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    I think a unification would be ridiculous, but the YouTuber hypohystericalhistory put forward a good case for a free trade and defence agreement. The video is below but be warned it's nearly three hours long.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FvGECcK46o
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,714

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    Sunil's Anglosphere, Fun facts:

    USA, UK, Canada, Australia, Ireland, New Zealand
    US Territories (5)
    US Associated States (3)
    UK Crown Dependencies (3)
    UK Territories (13 exc. Antarctic claim)
    UK Commonwealth Realms (11 not mentioned above)
    Australian Island Territories (6 exc. Antarctic claim)
    NZ Territory and Associated States (3 exc. Antarctic claim)
    States with Australian and/or NZ defence ties (3)

    492 million people
    28.7 million sq. km. (11.1 million sq. miles)
    128 States and seats in the Federal Council
    56 "Left", 47 "Right", 25 "Other" (per most recent elections, Canada pending)
    801 seats in the Electoral College
    417 "Left", 363 "Right", 21 "Other" (per most recent elections, Canada pending)

    England most populous state (56 million people)
    Pitcairn least populous state (47 people)
    Western Australia largest area: 2,527,013 sq. km. (975,685 sq. miles)
    Sark smallest area: 5 sq. km. (2 sq. miles)

    76% speak English as main/home language
    $37.665 trillion GDP ($76,510 per capita)
    508 cities of 100,000 people or more
    23 cities of 1,000,000 or more
    London and New York more than 8,000,000

    190 airports each serving at least 1,000,000 passengers in 2023
    19 airlines with widebody jets, total of 955 widebodies
    128,000 km. (80,000 miles) of passenger railways, serving 14,410 stations

    89 Submarines (inc. 22 ballistic)
    24 aircraft and helicopter carriers
    152 major surface ships
    82 major patrol vessels
    3,421 jet fighters and bombers
    2,817 main battle tanks

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,714

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,141
    edited April 28
    I do feel for Singh , the leader of the NDP whose party looks like suffering huge losses .

    They put forward some good policies which were taken up when in the coalition with the LPC , now the thanks they get from the public is a big fat zero .

    This is the reality of FPTP where voters are forced into tactical voting .
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,364

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    Sunil's Anglosphere, Fun facts:

    USA, UK, Canada, Australia, Ireland, New Zealand
    US Territories (5)
    US Associated States (3)
    UK Crown Dependencies (3)
    UK Territories (13 exc. Antarctic claim)
    UK Commonwealth Realms (11 not mentioned above)
    Australian Island Territories (6 exc. Antarctic claim)
    NZ Territory and Associated States (3 exc. Antarctic claim)
    States with Australian and/or NZ defence ties (3)

    492 million people
    28.7 million sq. km. (11.1 million sq. miles)
    128 States and seats in the Federal Council
    56 "Left", 47 "Right", 25 "Other" (per most recent elections, Canada pending)
    801 seats in the Electoral College
    417 "Left", 363 "Right", 21 "Other" (per most recent elections, Canada pending)

    England most populous state (56 million people)
    Pitcairn least populous state (47 people)
    Western Australia largest area: 2,527,013 sq. km. (975,685 sq. miles)
    Sark smallest area: 5 sq. km. (2 sq. miles)

    76% speak English as main/home language
    $37.665 trillion GDP ($76,510 per capita)
    508 cities of 100,000 people or more
    23 cities of 1,000,000 or more
    London and New York more than 8,000,000

    190 airports each serving at least 1,000,000 passengers in 2023
    19 airlines with widebody jets, total of 955 widebodies
    128,000 km. (80,000 miles) of passenger railways, serving 14,410 stations

    89 Submarines (inc. 22 ballistic)
    24 aircraft and helicopter carriers
    152 major surface ships
    82 major patrol vessels
    3,421 jet fighters and bombers
    2,817 main battle tanks

    500 million should be reached within a couple of years.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,714
    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    "We're gonna ensure that our truckers, who are the backbone of our policy, are all able to speak English" -- Leavitt says Trump will sign an order demanding that all truckers can speak English

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lnvdmfgu7s2q

    English is the best language in the world.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,364
    It's fortunate that in Spain and Portugal cash is still quite widely used, since contactless payments weren't working today according to reports.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,710
    edited April 28

    TimS said:

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    The UK needs to do something to deserve that loyalty and the economic opportunity it presents. We’ve spent too much of the last few months brownnosing Trump and too little paying attention to Canada.

    Just out from over an hour’s immigration queue at Chicago. I thought all those depressed visitor numbers might have thinned out the queues, but seemingly not today.
    I get embarrassed by the remarkable and steadfast loyalty Canada consistently shows us, and which we don't repay in kind.

    It's our ultimate fallback, and was even where the whole British government and state planned to retreat to had the UK been overrun in WW2.
    Churchill wasn’t going to go. He was determined to wait in the bunker with a gun and go down fighting. 🇬🇧

    I think we moved the gold and Crown Jewels to Canada?
    The Gold all went very rapidly to Fort Knox aiui, which is perhaps full of gold with our marks on it.

    Operation Fish - there's a very interesting Mark Felton about it from February.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boOPyGBLfv4
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,141
    edited April 28
    Andy_JS said:

    It's fortunate that in Spain and Portugal cash is still quite widely used, since contactless payments weren't working today according to reports.

    Also fortunate this didn’t happen in mid summer . Trains stuck , homes without air conditioning etc .

    It’s still quite astonishing though how literally a whole country can lose power .

    As for cash . I always keep around 100 pounds cash on me just in case . I know this is heresy to some in here!
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480

    TimS said:

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    The UK needs to do something to deserve that loyalty and the economic opportunity it presents. We’ve spent too much of the last few months brownnosing Trump and too little paying attention to Canada.

    Just out from over an hour’s immigration queue at Chicago. I thought all those depressed visitor numbers might have thinned out the queues, but seemingly not today.
    I get embarrassed by the remarkable and steadfast loyalty Canada consistently shows us, and which we don't repay in kind.

    It's our ultimate fallback, and was even where the whole British government and state planned to retreat to had the UK been overrun in WW2.
    But they have French speaking secessionists, like Scot Nats but French.

    I always liked the loyalty the Aussies and New Zealanders have given us too.

    From Gallipoli to Bob Muldoon's comments over the Falklands.
    Even the French don't like the Quebecois.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,710
    edited April 28
    Andy_JS said:

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    Sunil's Anglosphere, Fun facts:

    USA, UK, Canada, Australia, Ireland, New Zealand
    US Territories (5)
    US Associated States (3)
    UK Crown Dependencies (3)
    UK Territories (13 exc. Antarctic claim)
    UK Commonwealth Realms (11 not mentioned above)
    Australian Island Territories (6 exc. Antarctic claim)
    NZ Territory and Associated States (3 exc. Antarctic claim)
    States with Australian and/or NZ defence ties (3)

    492 million people
    28.7 million sq. km. (11.1 million sq. miles)
    128 States and seats in the Federal Council
    56 "Left", 47 "Right", 25 "Other" (per most recent elections, Canada pending)
    801 seats in the Electoral College
    417 "Left", 363 "Right", 21 "Other" (per most recent elections, Canada pending)

    England most populous state (56 million people)
    Pitcairn least populous state (47 people)
    Western Australia largest area: 2,527,013 sq. km. (975,685 sq. miles)
    Sark smallest area: 5 sq. km. (2 sq. miles)

    76% speak English as main/home language
    $37.665 trillion GDP ($76,510 per capita)
    508 cities of 100,000 people or more
    23 cities of 1,000,000 or more
    London and New York more than 8,000,000

    190 airports each serving at least 1,000,000 passengers in 2023
    19 airlines with widebody jets, total of 955 widebodies
    128,000 km. (80,000 miles) of passenger railways, serving 14,410 stations

    89 Submarines (inc. 22 ballistic)
    24 aircraft and helicopter carriers
    152 major surface ships
    82 major patrol vessels
    3,421 jet fighters and bombers
    2,817 main battle tanks

    500 million should be reached within a couple of years.
    Can we install Mr Trump under a staircase in the Tower?

    I believe that there are two people spaces available, so he would fit.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480
    Andy_JS said:

    It's fortunate that in Spain and Portugal cash is still quite widely used, since contactless payments weren't working today according to reports.

    CASH
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,663
    nico67 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    It's fortunate that in Spain and Portugal cash is still quite widely used, since contactless payments weren't working today according to reports.

    Also fortunate this didn’t happen in mid summer . Trains stuck , homes without air conditioning etc .

    It’s still quite astonishing though how literally a whole country can lose power .

    As for cash . I always keep around 100 pounds cash on me just in case . I know this heresy to some in here !
    If this happened jn the UK the press and the politicians would still be going on about which toilet trans women use.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,969

    FocalData.

    Said aloud in my Northern accent, it’s like they have no data at all.

    Faculty.
    Cockney for we are out of tea.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    Sunil's Anglosphere, Fun facts:

    USA, UK, Canada, Australia, Ireland, New Zealand
    US Territories (5)
    US Associated States (3)
    UK Crown Dependencies (3)
    UK Territories (13 exc. Antarctic claim)
    UK Commonwealth Realms (11 not mentioned above)
    Australian Island Territories (6 exc. Antarctic claim)
    NZ Territory and Associated States (3 exc. Antarctic claim)
    States with Australian and/or NZ defence ties (3)

    492 million people
    28.7 million sq. km. (11.1 million sq. miles)
    128 States and seats in the Federal Council
    56 "Left", 47 "Right", 25 "Other" (per most recent elections, Canada pending)
    801 seats in the Electoral College
    417 "Left", 363 "Right", 21 "Other" (per most recent elections, Canada pending)

    England most populous state (56 million people)
    Pitcairn least populous state (47 people)
    Western Australia largest area: 2,527,013 sq. km. (975,685 sq. miles)
    Sark smallest area: 5 sq. km. (2 sq. miles)

    76% speak English as main/home language
    $37.665 trillion GDP ($76,510 per capita)
    508 cities of 100,000 people or more
    23 cities of 1,000,000 or more
    London and New York more than 8,000,000

    190 airports each serving at least 1,000,000 passengers in 2023
    19 airlines with widebody jets, total of 955 widebodies
    128,000 km. (80,000 miles) of passenger railways, serving 14,410 stations

    89 Submarines (inc. 22 ballistic)
    24 aircraft and helicopter carriers
    152 major surface ships
    82 major patrol vessels
    3,421 jet fighters and bombers
    2,817 main battle tanks

    Yeah, but had enough of the Seppos.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,480
    viewcode said:

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    I think a unification would be ridiculous, but the YouTuber hypohystericalhistory put forward a good case for a free trade and defence agreement. The video is below but be warned it's nearly three hours long.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FvGECcK46o
    Thanks but I can't be arsed.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,141

    TimS said:

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    The UK needs to do something to deserve that loyalty and the economic opportunity it presents. We’ve spent too much of the last few months brownnosing Trump and too little paying attention to Canada.

    Just out from over an hour’s immigration queue at Chicago. I thought all those depressed visitor numbers might have thinned out the queues, but seemingly not today.
    I get embarrassed by the remarkable and steadfast loyalty Canada consistently shows us, and which we don't repay in kind.

    It's our ultimate fallback, and was even where the whole British government and state planned to retreat to had the UK been overrun in WW2.
    But they have French speaking secessionists, like Scot Nats but French.

    I always liked the loyalty the Aussies and New Zealanders have given us too.

    From Gallipoli to Bob Muldoon's comments over the Falklands.
    Even the French don't like the Quebecois.
    They also annoy the hell out of most Canadians outside of Quebec . Blanchet the leader of the BQ is really quite odious and made some dreadful comments the other day .
  • Is there an exit poll in Canada tonight similar to our general Elections? Or is it wait for results as there are so many time zones?

    If so do we know when the first results are expected?
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,102

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,623

    “ we think we should be cautious. The 'wisdom of the crowd' method, which successfully predicted Trump's swing state victories in November, points towards a polling error and a Conservative victory today.”

    Trumps Swing State victories were not exactly a polling error.

    But nor would Liberals having to go into opposition from these results come as a huge shock. The Wisdom of the Crowd method is to be respected. The fuss about who can best handle Trump, and a change of leader to pretend the voters have the change they have made up their mind for, isn’t going to work. The voters had clearly made up their mind to change party in government and give others a go, it would be actually be a surprise if Libs can come back from that, on the flimsiness of a leader swap out and a who best to handle Trump, campaign. .

    Given how far back the Liberals were it cannot all have been that people were sick of Trudeau, though it was obviously a big factor, there must have been a 'time for change' element playing a major role. If Carney's mood music changes and style, and a dollop of Trump slathered on everything in the way only he can manage, has actually worked then a) the stragegy has been incredible effective, and b) the opposition cannot have been as popular as it thought it was (even if a big part of things has been the apparent squeeze on other parties).
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,185
    Nigelb said:

    Bob I knew about; the other one not so much.

    Moog Inc. creates components for space vehicles and the F35. Moog Music Inc. creates synthesizers

    One (was) run by Bill Moog, the other (was) run by Bob Moog. They are cousins.

    One put’s stuff in space, the other makes space sounds.

    Oh, and they both went to Cornell.

    https://x.com/lauriewired/status/1916951710008021019

    Just opened a big new place at Tewkesbury
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,873
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,839
    Andy_JS said:

    It's fortunate that in Spain and Portugal cash is still quite widely used, since contactless payments weren't working today according to reports.

    Bit odd how you visit a country and soon as you leave all the power cuts out.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,321

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Gary Numan was more keyboards I think. Perhaps he riffed on that most Eighties of instruments the Keytar.

    Sure, in the Eighties there was a lot of weird experimental music, big hair, mismatched clothing and dubious choreography, but boy was it fun. The best decade to be young, unless you were on the dole.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,141
    edited April 28
    kle4 said:

    “ we think we should be cautious. The 'wisdom of the crowd' method, which successfully predicted Trump's swing state victories in November, points towards a polling error and a Conservative victory today.”

    Trumps Swing State victories were not exactly a polling error.

    But nor would Liberals having to go into opposition from these results come as a huge shock. The Wisdom of the Crowd method is to be respected. The fuss about who can best handle Trump, and a change of leader to pretend the voters have the change they have made up their mind for, isn’t going to work. The voters had clearly made up their mind to change party in government and give others a go, it would be actually be a surprise if Libs can come back from that, on the flimsiness of a leader swap out and a who best to handle Trump, campaign. .

    Given how far back the Liberals were it cannot all have been that people were sick of Trudeau, though it was obviously a big factor, there must have been a 'time for change' element playing a major role. If Carney's mood music changes and style, and a dollop of Trump slathered on everything in the way only he can manage, has actually worked then a) the stragegy has been incredible effective, and b) the opposition cannot have been as popular as it thought it was (even if a big part of things has been the apparent squeeze on other parties).
    The CPC will do very well compared to previous elections and would ordinarily win with its likely vote share . It’s not just about tariffs re the USA but fear of what people see as the mini Trump getting into power . They’ve seen the erosion of democracy south of the border and Poilievre has used similar language , attacking the media , threatening to defund the CBC etc . His change of tone recently is seen by many as an act to get into power after the election dynamics changed.

    This has forced a lot of NDP voters towards the LPC in an effort to stop the CPC .
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,321
    viewcode said:

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    I think a unification would be ridiculous, but the YouTuber hypohystericalhistory put forward a good case for a free trade and defence agreement. The video is below but be warned it's nearly three hours long.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FvGECcK46o
    Unification with free movement would solve our housing problem. The UK population would halve in the first year.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,657
    Foxy said:

    viewcode said:

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    I think a unification would be ridiculous, but the YouTuber hypohystericalhistory put forward a good case for a free trade and defence agreement. The video is below but be warned it's nearly three hours long.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FvGECcK46o
    Unification with free movement would solve our housing problem. The UK population would halve in the first year.
    Nope. Most people would stay where they are, just like they do now.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,710

    Andy_JS said:

    It's fortunate that in Spain and Portugal cash is still quite widely used, since contactless payments weren't working today according to reports.

    CASH
    It was cash to the USA in 1940-41.

    It was running at just under £50 million per day, in 1940-41 prices.

    It was even called the Cash & Carry system. According to Mr Felton.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boOPyGBLfv4
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,602
    Her milkshake tax brings all the boys to the yard?

    Nah...
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,373
    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    "We're gonna ensure that our truckers, who are the backbone of our policy, are all able to speak English" -- Leavitt says Trump will sign an order demanding that all truckers can speak English

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lnvdmfgu7s2q

    Isn’t time that Trump renamed English as American?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,364

    Is there an exit poll in Canada tonight similar to our general Elections? Or is it wait for results as there are so many time zones?

    If so do we know when the first results are expected?

    They usually have a sort of exit poll prediction which is incredibly accurate most of the time. At the Ontario election a few weeks ago they were able to call the result after about 7 minutes.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,185

    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    "We're gonna ensure that our truckers, who are the backbone of our policy, are all able to speak English" -- Leavitt says Trump will sign an order demanding that all truckers can speak English

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lnvdmfgu7s2q

    Isn’t time that Trump renamed English as American?
    Seen elsewhere

    "Why do British people speak English, which is American, instead of some European language..."
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,714

    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    "We're gonna ensure that our truckers, who are the backbone of our policy, are all able to speak English" -- Leavitt says Trump will sign an order demanding that all truckers can speak English

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lnvdmfgu7s2q

    Isn’t time that Trump renamed English as American?
    Scotland Census 2022:
    Main language of 94% of the population = English
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,856

    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    "We're gonna ensure that our truckers, who are the backbone of our policy, are all able to speak English" -- Leavitt says Trump will sign an order demanding that all truckers can speak English

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lnvdmfgu7s2q

    English is the best language in the world.
    So why would you need to force people to use it ?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,513

    TimS said:

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    The UK needs to do something to deserve that loyalty and the economic opportunity it presents. We’ve spent too much of the last few months brownnosing Trump and too little paying attention to Canada.

    Just out from over an hour’s immigration queue at Chicago. I thought all those depressed visitor numbers might have thinned out the queues, but seemingly not today.
    I get embarrassed by the remarkable and steadfast loyalty Canada consistently shows us, and which we don't repay in kind.

    It's our ultimate fallback, and was even where the whole British government and state planned to retreat to had the UK been overrun in WW2.
    Agreed.

    Our political class - all of them - have been far too keen to appease Trump; from day one we should have made it clear we stood with Canada.
  • vikvik Posts: 279

    Foxy said:

    viewcode said:

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    I think a unification would be ridiculous, but the YouTuber hypohystericalhistory put forward a good case for a free trade and defence agreement. The video is below but be warned it's nearly three hours long.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FvGECcK46o
    Unification with free movement would solve our housing problem. The UK population would halve in the first year.
    Nope. Most people would stay where they are, just like they do now.
    The likely impact of free movement would be a lot of highly skilled Australians moving to the UK, and a lot of unskilled Brits moving to Australia.

    Australia doesn't want either of these things to happen, and that's why it turned down Johnson's proposal for free movement of people.

    https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/morrison-government-rules-out-visa-free-travel-between-australia-uk-20200102-p53o7l.html
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,969

    Her milkshake tax brings all the boys to the yard?

    Nah...
    She could teach you.
    But she'd have to charge.
  • GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 2,297
    For me, Canada is an interesting battle between the fundamentals and the zeitgeist.

    The fundamentals are the Liberals have been in power for 9 years, were in power during COVID and have done some pretty unpopular stuff (hence the polling pre-Trump)
    The zeitgeist is that Canadians feel threatened by Trump.

    The parallel for me is NZ 2020.

    Jacinda's Labour got an unprecedented absolute majority (the first ever under MMP) due to COVID, but then it all came crashing down by 2023.

    If the Canadian Libs win then I'd expect them to be unpopular again within a few years and Trump will be gone by the time Canada next votes in 2029, when you'd expect a big swing rightwards.
  • GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 2,297
    Scott_xP said:
    Keep up. You need a picture of Rachel Reeves now.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,321

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Sunil's ABC of the 1980s:

    ABC - "The Look Of Love"
    Bananarama - "Venus"
    Culture Club - "Karma Chamaeleon"
    Duran Duran - "The Reflex"
    Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams"
    Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax"
    Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer"
    Human League - "Don't You Want Me"
    Imagination - "Just An Illusion"
    Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
    Kylie Minogue - "I Should Be So Lucky"
    Level 42 - "Lessons In Love"
    Madonna - "Into The Groove"
    New Order - "Blue Monday"
    Billy Ocean - "When The Going Gets Tough"
    Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls"
    Queen - "Radio Gaga"
    Rick Astley - "Never Gonna Give You Up"
    Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
    Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"
    UB40 - "Red Red Wine"
    Visage - "Fade To Grey"
    Wham! - "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go"
    XTC - "Senses Working Overtime"
    Yazz - "Don't Go"
    ZZ Top - "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

    Yazoo not Yazz for Don't Go. Yazz was the only way is up.

    Good choices though.

  • ExiledInScotlandExiledInScotland Posts: 1,537
    dixiedean said:

    FocalData.

    Said aloud in my Northern accent, it’s like they have no data at all.

    Faculty.
    Cockney for we are out of tea.
    My father worked in the British Antarctic Survey and at the Scott Polar Research Institute in the 1960's, where he got to know Sir Vivian Fuchs who led the Commonwealth Trans-Antarctic Expedition in the late 1950's. My father tells the story that Sir Vivian was giving a lecture about the expedition in Manchester in the 60's when he was introduced thus:
    "Ladies and Gentlemen, it is my great pleasure to introduce our guest Sir Vivian F*cks"
    "Ah, thank you, but it is pronounced Fooks"
    "Aye lad, but there's some words we don't say around here"
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,714
    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Sunil's ABC of the 1980s:

    ABC - "The Look Of Love"
    Bananarama - "Venus"
    Culture Club - "Karma Chamaeleon"
    Duran Duran - "The Reflex"
    Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams"
    Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax"
    Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer"
    Human League - "Don't You Want Me"
    Imagination - "Just An Illusion"
    Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
    Kylie Minogue - "I Should Be So Lucky"
    Level 42 - "Lessons In Love"
    Madonna - "Into The Groove"
    New Order - "Blue Monday"
    Billy Ocean - "When The Going Gets Tough"
    Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls"
    Queen - "Radio Gaga"
    Rick Astley - "Never Gonna Give You Up"
    Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
    Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"
    UB40 - "Red Red Wine"
    Visage - "Fade To Grey"
    Wham! - "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go"
    XTC - "Senses Working Overtime"
    Yazz - "Don't Go"
    ZZ Top - "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

    Yazoo not Yazz for Don't Go. Yazz was the only way is up.

    Good choices though.

    Thanks! I somehow got muddled the US name for Yazoo (Yaz with one Z)! :lol:
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,602

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Sunil's ABC of the 1980s:

    ABC - "The Look Of Love"
    Bananarama - "Venus"
    Culture Club - "Karma Chamaeleon"
    Duran Duran - "The Reflex"
    Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams"
    Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax"
    Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer"
    Human League - "Don't You Want Me"
    Imagination - "Just An Illusion"
    Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
    Kylie Minogue - "I Should Be So Lucky"
    Level 42 - "Lessons In Love"
    Madonna - "Into The Groove"
    New Order - "Blue Monday"
    Billy Ocean - "When The Going Gets Tough"
    Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls"
    Queen - "Radio Gaga"
    Rick Astley - "Never Gonna Give You Up"
    Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
    Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"
    UB40 - "Red Red Wine"
    Visage - "Fade To Grey"
    Wham! - "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go"
    XTC - "Senses Working Overtime"
    Yazz - "Don't Go"
    ZZ Top - "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

    Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,364

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Sunil's ABC of the 1980s:

    ABC - "The Look Of Love"
    Bananarama - "Venus"
    Culture Club - "Karma Chamaeleon"
    Duran Duran - "The Reflex"
    Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams"
    Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax"
    Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer"
    Human League - "Don't You Want Me"
    Imagination - "Just An Illusion"
    Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
    Kylie Minogue - "I Should Be So Lucky"
    Level 42 - "Lessons In Love"
    Madonna - "Into The Groove"
    New Order - "Blue Monday"
    Billy Ocean - "When The Going Gets Tough"
    Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls"
    Queen - "Radio Gaga"
    Rick Astley - "Never Gonna Give You Up"
    Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
    Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"
    UB40 - "Red Red Wine"
    Visage - "Fade To Grey"
    Wham! - "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go"
    XTC - "Senses Working Overtime"
    Yazz - "Don't Go"
    ZZ Top - "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

    Some excellent choices there. Early/mid 80s music is the best imo, especially anything produced by Trevor Horn, which includes ABC.
  • ExiledInScotlandExiledInScotland Posts: 1,537

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Sunil's ABC of the 1980s:

    ABC - "The Look Of Love"
    Bananarama - "Venus"
    Culture Club - "Karma Chamaeleon"
    Duran Duran - "The Reflex"
    Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams"
    Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax"
    Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer"
    Human League - "Don't You Want Me"
    Imagination - "Just An Illusion"
    Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
    Kylie Minogue - "I Should Be So Lucky"
    Level 42 - "Lessons In Love"
    Madonna - "Into The Groove"
    New Order - "Blue Monday"
    Billy Ocean - "When The Going Gets Tough"
    Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls"
    Queen - "Radio Gaga"
    Rick Astley - "Never Gonna Give You Up"
    Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
    Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"
    UB40 - "Red Red Wine"
    Visage - "Fade To Grey"
    Wham! - "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go"
    XTC - "Senses Working Overtime"
    Yazz - "Don't Go"
    ZZ Top - "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

    Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately?
    Surely Joy Division - Love Will Tear us Apart?
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 4,991

    RobD said:

    A clear majority (61% to 16%) would favor a hypothetical ‘Anglosphere Union’ with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.

    HMG should be focused on deepening ties with Canada, not the US.
    We could give Canada the 2028 Open golf.
    And invite them into Eurovision.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,321

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Sunil's ABC of the 1980s:

    ABC - "The Look Of Love"
    Bananarama - "Venus"
    Culture Club - "Karma Chamaeleon"
    Duran Duran - "The Reflex"
    Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams"
    Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax"
    Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer"
    Human League - "Don't You Want Me"
    Imagination - "Just An Illusion"
    Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
    Kylie Minogue - "I Should Be So Lucky"
    Level 42 - "Lessons In Love"
    Madonna - "Into The Groove"
    New Order - "Blue Monday"
    Billy Ocean - "When The Going Gets Tough"
    Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls"
    Queen - "Radio Gaga"
    Rick Astley - "Never Gonna Give You Up"
    Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
    Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"
    UB40 - "Red Red Wine"
    Visage - "Fade To Grey"
    Wham! - "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go"
    XTC - "Senses Working Overtime"
    Yazz - "Don't Go"
    ZZ Top - "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

    Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately?
    Surely Joy Division - Love Will Tear us Apart?
    Or the Jesus and Mary Chain -Just like Honey.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,102
    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Gary Numan was more keyboards I think. Perhaps he riffed on that most Eighties of instruments the Keytar.

    Sure, in the Eighties there was a lot of weird experimental music, big hair, mismatched clothing and dubious choreography, but boy was it fun. The best decade to be young, unless you were on the dole.
    From my perspective - born mid 90’s - the eighties are a complete aberration.

    60’s great style, great music. 70’s, some iffy style but great music. 90’s great style great music. Every decade since, great style great music.

    80’s. Complete aberration.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,321
    edited April 28
    Andy_JS said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Sunil's ABC of the 1980s:

    ABC - "The Look Of Love"
    Bananarama - "Venus"
    Culture Club - "Karma Chamaeleon"
    Duran Duran - "The Reflex"
    Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams"
    Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax"
    Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer"
    Human League - "Don't You Want Me"
    Imagination - "Just An Illusion"
    Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
    Kylie Minogue - "I Should Be So Lucky"
    Level 42 - "Lessons In Love"
    Madonna - "Into The Groove"
    New Order - "Blue Monday"
    Billy Ocean - "When The Going Gets Tough"
    Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls"
    Queen - "Radio Gaga"
    Rick Astley - "Never Gonna Give You Up"
    Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
    Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"
    UB40 - "Red Red Wine"
    Visage - "Fade To Grey"
    Wham! - "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go"
    XTC - "Senses Working Overtime"
    Yazz - "Don't Go"
    ZZ Top - "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

    Some excellent choices there. Early/mid 80s music is the best imo, especially anything produced by Trevor Horn, which includes ABC.
    It is statistically proven that Eighties music is best, but only if you are Gen X.


  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,141
    I think this below from the BBC asking Canadians about their vote today will be why the NDP suffer big losses .

    Ian Wells, a 23-year-old student who plans to go into teaching, decided against voting for the smaller left leaning New Democratic Party. He says his priority now is “how best to stave off the conservatives".

    What’s happening in the US with the Department of Justice under President Donald Trump “horrifies him", he says, referring to the judge who was arrested, and the way the administration has handled deportations and revoked foreign students' visas.

    He says he doesn’t want Canada going in that direction. “I don't necessarily know for sure if Pierre Poilievre is that here, but he's close enough to it that I don't want to risk anything like that,” he explains.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,856
    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Sunil's ABC of the 1980s:

    ABC - "The Look Of Love"
    Bananarama - "Venus"
    Culture Club - "Karma Chamaeleon"
    Duran Duran - "The Reflex"
    Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams"
    Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax"
    Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer"
    Human League - "Don't You Want Me"
    Imagination - "Just An Illusion"
    Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
    Kylie Minogue - "I Should Be So Lucky"
    Level 42 - "Lessons In Love"
    Madonna - "Into The Groove"
    New Order - "Blue Monday"
    Billy Ocean - "When The Going Gets Tough"
    Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls"
    Queen - "Radio Gaga"
    Rick Astley - "Never Gonna Give You Up"
    Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
    Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"
    UB40 - "Red Red Wine"
    Visage - "Fade To Grey"
    Wham! - "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go"
    XTC - "Senses Working Overtime"
    Yazz - "Don't Go"
    ZZ Top - "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

    Yazoo not Yazz for Don't Go. Yazz was the only way is up.

    Good choices though.

    Damn, it's four decades.
    https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2025/apr/28/mark-knopfler-dire-straits-money-for-nothing
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,856
    Andy_JS said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Sunil's ABC of the 1980s:

    ABC - "The Look Of Love"
    Bananarama - "Venus"
    Culture Club - "Karma Chamaeleon"
    Duran Duran - "The Reflex"
    Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams"
    Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax"
    Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer"
    Human League - "Don't You Want Me"
    Imagination - "Just An Illusion"
    Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
    Kylie Minogue - "I Should Be So Lucky"
    Level 42 - "Lessons In Love"
    Madonna - "Into The Groove"
    New Order - "Blue Monday"
    Billy Ocean - "When The Going Gets Tough"
    Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls"
    Queen - "Radio Gaga"
    Rick Astley - "Never Gonna Give You Up"
    Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
    Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"
    UB40 - "Red Red Wine"
    Visage - "Fade To Grey"
    Wham! - "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go"
    XTC - "Senses Working Overtime"
    Yazz - "Don't Go"
    ZZ Top - "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

    Some excellent choices there. Early/mid 80s music is the best imo, especially anything produced by Trevor Horn, which includes ABC.
    Lexicon of Love was true post-structuralist pop. Great stuff.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,670
    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Sunil's ABC of the 1980s:

    ABC - "The Look Of Love"
    Bananarama - "Venus"
    Culture Club - "Karma Chamaeleon"
    Duran Duran - "The Reflex"
    Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams"
    Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax"
    Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer"
    Human League - "Don't You Want Me"
    Imagination - "Just An Illusion"
    Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
    Kylie Minogue - "I Should Be So Lucky"
    Level 42 - "Lessons In Love"
    Madonna - "Into The Groove"
    New Order - "Blue Monday"
    Billy Ocean - "When The Going Gets Tough"
    Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls"
    Queen - "Radio Gaga"
    Rick Astley - "Never Gonna Give You Up"
    Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
    Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"
    UB40 - "Red Red Wine"
    Visage - "Fade To Grey"
    Wham! - "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go"
    XTC - "Senses Working Overtime"
    Yazz - "Don't Go"
    ZZ Top - "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

    Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately?
    Surely Joy Division - Love Will Tear us Apart?
    Or the Jesus and Mary Chain -Just like Honey.
    Maybe my 80s were a bit different - but :

    Deacon Blue - Ship Called Dignity : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP1EGudMF3M

    Spacemen 3 - OD Catastrophe : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaBz49jZo_Y

    Lil Lois - French Kiss : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y8w2W1uy2A


  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,102
    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Sunil's ABC of the 1980s:

    ABC - "The Look Of Love"
    Bananarama - "Venus"
    Culture Club - "Karma Chamaeleon"
    Duran Duran - "The Reflex"
    Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams"
    Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax"
    Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer"
    Human League - "Don't You Want Me"
    Imagination - "Just An Illusion"
    Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
    Kylie Minogue - "I Should Be So Lucky"
    Level 42 - "Lessons In Love"
    Madonna - "Into The Groove"
    New Order - "Blue Monday"
    Billy Ocean - "When The Going Gets Tough"
    Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls"
    Queen - "Radio Gaga"
    Rick Astley - "Never Gonna Give You Up"
    Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
    Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"
    UB40 - "Red Red Wine"
    Visage - "Fade To Grey"
    Wham! - "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go"
    XTC - "Senses Working Overtime"
    Yazz - "Don't Go"
    ZZ Top - "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

    Yazoo not Yazz for Don't Go. Yazz was the only way is up.

    Good choices though.

    I’ll concede 2 are okay - Billy Jean and Gimme all your loving. Of the rest, that I have heard, not okay. “everything” released in the 60’s is better than Kylies I should be so lucky.

    Another thing I spot that is very wrong, weren’t U2 and the Pogues big in the eighties? Why are they not on the list?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,321

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Sunil's ABC of the 1980s:

    ABC - "The Look Of Love"
    Bananarama - "Venus"
    Culture Club - "Karma Chamaeleon"
    Duran Duran - "The Reflex"
    Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams"
    Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax"
    Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer"
    Human League - "Don't You Want Me"
    Imagination - "Just An Illusion"
    Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
    Kylie Minogue - "I Should Be So Lucky"
    Level 42 - "Lessons In Love"
    Madonna - "Into The Groove"
    New Order - "Blue Monday"
    Billy Ocean - "When The Going Gets Tough"
    Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls"
    Queen - "Radio Gaga"
    Rick Astley - "Never Gonna Give You Up"
    Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
    Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"
    UB40 - "Red Red Wine"
    Visage - "Fade To Grey"
    Wham! - "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go"
    XTC - "Senses Working Overtime"
    Yazz - "Don't Go"
    ZZ Top - "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

    Yazoo not Yazz for Don't Go. Yazz was the only way is up.

    Good choices though.

    I’ll concede 2 are okay - Billy Jean and Gimme all your loving. Of the rest, that I have heard, not okay. “everything” released in the 60’s is better than Kylies I should be so lucky.

    Another thing I spot that is very wrong, weren’t U2 and the Pogues big in the eighties? Why are they not on the list?
    Shocking omission of Depeche Mode too...
  • CollegeCollege Posts: 124
    Foreign sex offenders will be banned from being given asylum. Of course this announcement by the Home Office has nothing to do with the local elections to be held in three days' time.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,250
    edited April 28
    Scott_xP said:

    Trump seemed ok to me (assuming the 57 was correct) and perhaps part of it was an ad lib rather than a scripted ad lib.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,321
    College said:

    Foreign sex offenders will be banned from being given asylum. Of course this announcement by the Home Office has nothing to do with the local elections to be held in three days' time.

    On the other hand we can be shot of some of our worst bigots:

    "White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt says she will speak to Trump and the National Security team about whether the US can offer political asylum to British citizens fleeing UK free speech laws."

    https://bsky.app/profile/adamjschwarz.bsky.social/post/3lnvd6k4kck2a
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,602

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Sunil's ABC of the 1980s:

    ABC - "The Look Of Love"
    Bananarama - "Venus"
    Culture Club - "Karma Chamaeleon"
    Duran Duran - "The Reflex"
    Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams"
    Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax"
    Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer"
    Human League - "Don't You Want Me"
    Imagination - "Just An Illusion"
    Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
    Kylie Minogue - "I Should Be So Lucky"
    Level 42 - "Lessons In Love"
    Madonna - "Into The Groove"
    New Order - "Blue Monday"
    Billy Ocean - "When The Going Gets Tough"
    Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls"
    Queen - "Radio Gaga"
    Rick Astley - "Never Gonna Give You Up"
    Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
    Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"
    UB40 - "Red Red Wine"
    Visage - "Fade To Grey"
    Wham! - "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go"
    XTC - "Senses Working Overtime"
    Yazz - "Don't Go"
    ZZ Top - "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

    Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately?
    Surely Joy Division - Love Will Tear us Apart?
    Genuinely surprised that wasn't released in 1979.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,670
    ohnotnow said:

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Sunil's ABC of the 1980s:

    ABC - "The Look Of Love"
    Bananarama - "Venus"
    Culture Club - "Karma Chamaeleon"
    Duran Duran - "The Reflex"
    Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams"
    Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax"
    Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer"
    Human League - "Don't You Want Me"
    Imagination - "Just An Illusion"
    Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
    Kylie Minogue - "I Should Be So Lucky"
    Level 42 - "Lessons In Love"
    Madonna - "Into The Groove"
    New Order - "Blue Monday"
    Billy Ocean - "When The Going Gets Tough"
    Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls"
    Queen - "Radio Gaga"
    Rick Astley - "Never Gonna Give You Up"
    Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
    Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"
    UB40 - "Red Red Wine"
    Visage - "Fade To Grey"
    Wham! - "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go"
    XTC - "Senses Working Overtime"
    Yazz - "Don't Go"
    ZZ Top - "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

    Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately?
    Surely Joy Division - Love Will Tear us Apart?
    Or the Jesus and Mary Chain -Just like Honey.
    Maybe my 80s were a bit different - but :

    Deacon Blue - Ship Called Dignity : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP1EGudMF3M

    Spacemen 3 - OD Catastrophe : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaBz49jZo_Y

    Lil Lois - French Kiss : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y8w2W1uy2A


    I should also have mentioned :

    Cocteau Twins - Pink Orange Red : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFN6BaulEX8

    This Mortal Coil - Song To The Siren : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFWKJ2FUiAQ

    Elizabeth Fraser in a later song for those who don't recognise her :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7K72X4eo_s

    (she also worked with FSOL, for those who remember those days)
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,748
    edited April 28
    Foxy said:

    College said:

    Foreign sex offenders will be banned from being given asylum. Of course this announcement by the Home Office has nothing to do with the local elections to be held in three days' time.

    On the other hand we can be shot of some of our worst bigots:

    "White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt says she will speak to Trump and the National Security team about whether the US can offer political asylum to British citizens fleeing UK free speech laws."

    https://bsky.app/profile/adamjschwarz.bsky.social/post/3lnvd6k4kck2a
    We can send Just Stop Oil, and other lefties banned by recent legislation from otherwise legitimate protests?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,856

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Sunil's ABC of the 1980s:

    ABC - "The Look Of Love"
    Bananarama - "Venus"
    Culture Club - "Karma Chamaeleon"
    Duran Duran - "The Reflex"
    Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams"
    Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax"
    Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer"
    Human League - "Don't You Want Me"
    Imagination - "Just An Illusion"
    Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
    Kylie Minogue - "I Should Be So Lucky"
    Level 42 - "Lessons In Love"
    Madonna - "Into The Groove"
    New Order - "Blue Monday"
    Billy Ocean - "When The Going Gets Tough"
    Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls"
    Queen - "Radio Gaga"
    Rick Astley - "Never Gonna Give You Up"
    Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
    Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"
    UB40 - "Red Red Wine"
    Visage - "Fade To Grey"
    Wham! - "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go"
    XTC - "Senses Working Overtime"
    Yazz - "Don't Go"
    ZZ Top - "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

    Yazoo not Yazz for Don't Go. Yazz was the only way is up.

    Good choices though.

    I’ll concede 2 are okay - Billy Jean and Gimme all your loving. Of the rest, that I have heard, not okay. “everything” released in the 60’s is better than Kylies I should be so lucky.

    Another thing I spot that is very wrong, weren’t U2 and the Pogues big in the eighties? Why are they not on the list?
    Katrina and the Waves, then.
    Walking on Sunshine.

    U2 ? Nah.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,180
    College said:

    Foreign sex offenders will be banned from being given asylum. Of course this announcement by the Home Office has nothing to do with the local elections to be held in three days' time.

    Not like it will make any difference
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 5,141
    edited April 28
    The first results in are likely to be coming from Newfoundland and Labrador .

    There are three very competitive ridings to look out for , Long Range Mountains , Terra Nova and Central Newfoundland .

    In particular CN has only 0.88% between the CPC who won last time and the LPC . There’s only 7.10% NDP vote there .

    What’s quite unusual in Canada is their ridings have a large range in population density .
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,583

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Sunil's ABC of the 1980s:

    ABC - "The Look Of Love"
    Bananarama - "Venus"
    Culture Club - "Karma Chamaeleon"
    Duran Duran - "The Reflex"
    Eurythmics - "Sweet Dreams"
    Frankie Goes to Hollywood - "Relax"
    Peter Gabriel - "Sledgehammer"
    Human League - "Don't You Want Me"
    Imagination - "Just An Illusion"
    Michael Jackson - "Billie Jean"
    Kylie Minogue - "I Should Be So Lucky"
    Level 42 - "Lessons In Love"
    Madonna - "Into The Groove"
    New Order - "Blue Monday"
    Billy Ocean - "When The Going Gets Tough"
    Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls"
    Queen - "Radio Gaga"
    Rick Astley - "Never Gonna Give You Up"
    Spandau Ballet - "Gold"
    Tears for Fears - "Everybody Wants To Rule The World"
    UB40 - "Red Red Wine"
    Visage - "Fade To Grey"
    Wham! - "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go"
    XTC - "Senses Working Overtime"
    Yazz - "Don't Go"
    ZZ Top - "Gimme All Your Lovin'"

    Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately?
    Surely Joy Division - Love Will Tear us Apart?
    Genuinely surprised that wasn't released in 1979.
    Likewise. I had to google it to check. June 1980 though - so almost 70s.

    And first recorded in Jan 1980, so maybe only days from being 70s!! :smile:
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,670

    Foxy said:

    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Well

    Yes. The header throws up questions.

    Who is the sad person with the ridiculous moustache? And are they about to be eaten by a Triffid.
    Assuming you mean the bloke in the avatar, isn't he a Mini-Me-Freddie-Mercury without the chest and armpit wigs?

    https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2018101/rs_634x1024-181101080659-634-Freddie-Mercury-Mary-Austin-JR-110118.jpg
    It's Patrick Flynn of FocalData.
    A very 80’s look.

    Yuk.
    I love '80s music.
    The decade when you were thrown out of a band for actually riffing on a guitar, rather than posing with it. And if you weren’t dressed in a plastic boiler suit, you would be laughed out of town.

    How to make three minutes thirty nine seconds sound like three hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUs
    Gary Numan was more keyboards I think. Perhaps he riffed on that most Eighties of instruments the Keytar.

    Sure, in the Eighties there was a lot of weird experimental music, big hair, mismatched clothing and dubious choreography, but boy was it fun. The best decade to be young, unless you were on the dole.
    From my perspective - born mid 90’s - the eighties are a complete aberration.

    60’s great style, great music. 70’s, some iffy style but great music. 90’s great style great music. Every decade since, great style great music.

    80’s. Complete aberration.
    I think I view chart music as a series of circles on a Venn diagram. The 90s were a happy overlap of pop, acid, indie, rap, metal, etc. Various other decades had similar but varying overlaps. Sometimes they align with your tastes at the time, or as you age, or never.

    For instance, would I have liked this track from Low when I was 12 in the 80s? Probably not. But now it's one of my all time favourite songs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12RnKyivaVc

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