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  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,321

    viewcode said:

    Pointing out the obvious: @Big_G_NorthWales has a relative (a son?) in Vancouver. Is he OK?

    Good afternoon

    Our son and daughter in law live in North Vancouver and are safe but thank you for asking

    Also the Leeds attack yesterday is exactly where our granddaughter socialises and fortunately she is safe as well
    Good to know, sir
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,140
    edited April 27
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,140
    edited April 27
    Eabhal said:

    HYUFD said:

    Do you think that sentencing guidelines for causing death or injury while cycling should or should not be the same as those for causing death or injury while driving a vehicle?'

    Should 75%
    Should not 11%

    87% of Tory voters, 84% of Reform backers, 74% of LDs and 73% of Labour voters think the sentencing guidelines should be the same for cyclists as drivers

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/travel/survey-results/daily/2025/04/25/24c7a/2?utm_source=daily_question&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=daily/2025/04/25_question_2

    Good to see people are in favour of shorter sentences for cyclists 👍
    Hardly, as you know serious injury by dangerous driving for example carries a 5 year maximum sentence for drivers but the equivalent wanton and furious driving carries a 2 year maximum for cyclists until the proposed new law passes Parliament and aligns the offences and sentences. There is also no death by dangerous cycling offence as for death by dangerous driving until the proposed new law passes Parliament
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,830

    DVLA bans pro-Brexit number plates
    The agency has also banned references to the Holocaust, drugs and homosexuality

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/26/dvla-bans-pro-brexit-number-plates/ (£££)

    While we are discussing cars and politics...

    And one footballer's take:-
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L4lQhGaEbSE

    'pro-Brexit'. Talk about niche.
    You've got to wonder about a person who'd want one of those.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,321

    kjh said:

    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:



    Here is his photo. He's in shock.

    I find it very strange that at the very least, the murder weapon hasn't been taped off/immediately taken away on low-loader. Anybody can wander up and tamper with the evidence.
    Thought hard about posting this, but it gives you an idea of how "immediate" this was.



    Feel free to remove.
    But some idea of how bewildered the instant aftermath is.
    The "bewildred" reaction seems to be for everybody to get their phones out and take images. Of bodies.

    I guess that is the world we are now in. Everybody is an "on the spot reporter".
    I've liked, but that seems very inappropriate, but it was also my first thought and people are just standing around and not helping. It could be the shock or the timing of the shot. I hope so.

    Many years ago we were first on the scene of a multiple pile up. In fact a car crashed into a car that I had just checked on shortly after I checked on it which shook me. It may also help that my wife is a Doctor, but we were helping those involved until the police and ambulances turned up as were others who arrived on the scene. To be honest I was pretty useless, but my wife was absolutely brilliant.
    As I walked around fields yesterday, looking for a missing boy, I chatted with the strangers I was with about what we would do if we found something - as none of us had been told. We decided that if we came across non-body 'evidence' - a mobile phone, or wallet, or bag - we would call it in, then photograph it so the police could tell it had not been moved. If we found a body, we would not photo it - unless it was in danger of moving (e.g. falling) for whatever reason. A rather macabre conversation.

    Also, after-the-event photos could be useful in some circumstances. ISTR that the Bostom bombers were partly ID'd from photos taken as they walked away after the bombing.
    Um, I think you should photograph it, with a ruler in view, preferably pointing north. That way the cops can tell if the body had been moved between your photograph and their arrival.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,171
    Barnesian said:

    Scott_xP said:
    These have just been installed at Hammersmith Bridge.
    A bit OTT I think.


    Hammersmith Bridge is now the primary active travel route in that part of London; it's pretty much the ideal spot for a terrorist attack.

    The bit that frightens me is Soho. Absolutely rammed on a Friday night and no pedestrian protection at all - just needs one coked up driver or some extremist weirdo and you'll have hundreds dead.

    What we need is a national design for this stuff. As someone pointed out above, Edinburgh has been rather ruined by it (particularly New College). Bath/Chester is the model to go for.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,575
    There used to be a time when Green politicians defined themselves in relation to policies on the environment. Which is undoubtedly a great issue of our time and deserves serious attention, which it doesn't usually get.

    They now seem, whether by design or by chance, to be defining themselves on transgender issues. Which would not be in a sane world, and probably isn't of great salience outside Twitter.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g355v07l2o

    Even if this was an issue they consider to be of defining importance, they have also managed to put themselves firmly on the unpopular side of it.

    I have no idea whether it's deliberate or not, but they're recasting themselves as single issue obsessives after a couple of decades when they seemed to have been gradually breaking free of it.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,171
    HYUFD said:

    Eabhal said:

    HYUFD said:

    Do you think that sentencing guidelines for causing death or injury while cycling should or should not be the same as those for causing death or injury while driving a vehicle?'

    Should 75%
    Should not 11%

    87% of Tory voters, 84% of Reform backers, 74% of LDs and 73% of Labour voters think the sentencing guidelines should be the same for cyclists as drivers

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/travel/survey-results/daily/2025/04/25/24c7a/2?utm_source=daily_question&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=daily/2025/04/25_question_2

    Good to see people are in favour of shorter sentences for cyclists 👍
    Hardly, as you know serious injury by dangerous driving for example carries a 5 year maximum sentence for drivers but the equivalent wanton and furious driving carries a 2 year maximum for cyclists until the proposed new law passes Parliament and aligns the offences and sentences. There is also no death by dangerous cycling offence as for death by dangerous driving until the proposed new law passes Parliament
    There's something called culpable homicide, or manslaughter in England.
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 4,798
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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,694

    NEW THREAD

  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,231

    (1/5)

    Personally I think there is a high amount of “shy Labour” out there. This won’t be relevant now but will be in 2029 I think.

    Reluctant Labour, perhaps?
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,529
    ydoethur said:

    There used to be a time when Green politicians defined themselves in relation to policies on the environment. Which is undoubtedly a great issue of our time and deserves serious attention, which it doesn't usually get.

    They now seem, whether by design or by chance, to be defining themselves on transgender issues. Which would not be in a sane world, and probably isn't of great salience outside Twitter.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g355v07l2o

    Even if this was an issue they consider to be of defining importance, they have also managed to put themselves firmly on the unpopular side of it.

    I have no idea whether it's deliberate or not, but they're recasting themselves as single issue obsessives after a couple of decades when they seemed to have been gradually breaking free of it.

    It’s a strange hill to die on.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,231
    Eabhal said:

    Barnesian said:

    Scott_xP said:
    These have just been installed at Hammersmith Bridge.
    A bit OTT I think.


    Hammersmith Bridge is now the primary active travel route in that part of London; it's pretty much the ideal spot for a terrorist attack.

    The bit that frightens me is Soho. Absolutely rammed on a Friday night and no pedestrian protection at all - just needs one coked up driver or some extremist weirdo and you'll have hundreds dead.

    What we need is a national design for this stuff. As someone pointed out above, Edinburgh has been rather ruined by it (particularly New College). Bath/Chester is the model to go for.
    Any bus stop outside a school at chucking-out time is more vulnerable, and murdered children more emotive. We can't make everywhere baddie-proof.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,617
    HYUFD said:

    Do you think that sentencing guidelines for causing death or injury while cycling should or should not be the same as those for causing death or injury while driving a vehicle?'

    Should 75%
    Should not 11%

    87% of Tory voters, 84% of Reform backers, 74% of LDs and 73% of Labour voters think the sentencing guidelines should be the same for cyclists as drivers

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/travel/survey-results/daily/2025/04/25/24c7a/2?utm_source=daily_question&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=daily/2025/04/25_question_2

    Presumably a larger proportion of Green voters would have been in the should not category. Were they included in the survey?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,140

    HYUFD said:

    Do you think that sentencing guidelines for causing death or injury while cycling should or should not be the same as those for causing death or injury while driving a vehicle?'

    Should 75%
    Should not 11%

    87% of Tory voters, 84% of Reform backers, 74% of LDs and 73% of Labour voters think the sentencing guidelines should be the same for cyclists as drivers

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/travel/survey-results/daily/2025/04/25/24c7a/2?utm_source=daily_question&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=daily/2025/04/25_question_2

    Presumably a larger proportion of Green voters would have been in the should not category. Were they included in the survey?
    Yes as it was of all voters
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,140
    Eabhal said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eabhal said:

    HYUFD said:

    Do you think that sentencing guidelines for causing death or injury while cycling should or should not be the same as those for causing death or injury while driving a vehicle?'

    Should 75%
    Should not 11%

    87% of Tory voters, 84% of Reform backers, 74% of LDs and 73% of Labour voters think the sentencing guidelines should be the same for cyclists as drivers

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/travel/survey-results/daily/2025/04/25/24c7a/2?utm_source=daily_question&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=daily/2025/04/25_question_2

    Good to see people are in favour of shorter sentences for cyclists 👍
    Hardly, as you know serious injury by dangerous driving for example carries a 5 year maximum sentence for drivers but the equivalent wanton and furious driving carries a 2 year maximum for cyclists until the proposed new law passes Parliament and aligns the offences and sentences. There is also no death by dangerous cycling offence as for death by dangerous driving until the proposed new law passes Parliament
    There's something called culpable homicide, or manslaughter in England.
    Even then still no causing serious injury by dangerous cycling law with a maximum 5 year sentence.

    It is also harder to get juries to convict for manslaughter than dangerous driving, which was the reason a death by dangerous driving law was created in the first place
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,617
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Do you think that sentencing guidelines for causing death or injury while cycling should or should not be the same as those for causing death or injury while driving a vehicle?'

    Should 75%
    Should not 11%

    87% of Tory voters, 84% of Reform backers, 74% of LDs and 73% of Labour voters think the sentencing guidelines should be the same for cyclists as drivers

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/travel/survey-results/daily/2025/04/25/24c7a/2?utm_source=daily_question&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=daily/2025/04/25_question_2

    Presumably a larger proportion of Green voters would have been in the should not category. Were they included in the survey?
    Yes as it was of all voters
    Do you have the percentages? (Sorry, going for lunch soon and don’t want to delay Mrs. F whilst I look it up.)
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,140
    edited April 27

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Do you think that sentencing guidelines for causing death or injury while cycling should or should not be the same as those for causing death or injury while driving a vehicle?'

    Should 75%
    Should not 11%

    87% of Tory voters, 84% of Reform backers, 74% of LDs and 73% of Labour voters think the sentencing guidelines should be the same for cyclists as drivers

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/travel/survey-results/daily/2025/04/25/24c7a/2?utm_source=daily_question&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=daily/2025/04/25_question_2

    Presumably a larger proportion of Green voters would have been in the should not category. Were they included in the survey?
    Yes as it was of all voters
    Do you have the percentages? (Sorry, going for lunch soon and don’t want to delay Mrs. F whilst I look it up.)
    I have already given you, 75% of all voters in favour and as less than 10% of voters back the Greens they really aren't going to make much difference
  • theakestheakes Posts: 960
    Recent local by election results, last month or two, fully endorse their vote decline and suggestions that they WILL get hammered on Thursday..
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,156
    @cnn.com‬

    New CNN Poll: Trump's 41% approval rating is the lowest for any newly elected president at 100 days dating back at least to Eisenhower

    https://bsky.app/profile/cnn.com/post/3lnsa6pxbi22e
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,107
    Dura_Ace said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    boulay said:



    Dura recommended the new Renault 5 which I would agree with. I think he said he has ordered one for himself so put his money where his mouth is which is a good sign.

    No discounts on them though. I paid full whack for mine. Arrives 1st June. I could have had one quicker if I didn't want a specific colour. I've got OZ wheels and H&R lowering springs waiting for it but others must act as their conscience dictates.

    Back up to six cars...
    Forgot to say, you can probably get a lower sticker price with dealer financing but I paid cash for mine.
    Did you get the GTS @Dura_Ace
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,107
    Foxy said:

    nico67 said:

    My final word on the trans debate Ed Davey making a good point .

    If you’re a female to male trans are you supposed to use the female toilet? won’t that cause problems .

    It's never the final word...

    I expect Trans-men will simply break the law and use male toilets and changing areas, and no one will be bothered.
    Unless like last couple of years when they have been shouting and screaming about it and hence causing all the aggro and need for the law to be clarified.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,107

    HYUFD said:

    DavidL said:

    What Carney fairly urgently needs is some more gratuitous rudeness from Trump.

    Trump has been distracted by the fact that his tariff plan is crashing the markets and driving inflation. He has also claiming to be busy agreeing all these deals with people, some of whom deny even talking to him.

    As Trump's bile has been directed elsewhere Carney has slipped back in the polls to the point that a majority is starting to look a bit of an ask. It really shouldn't be too hard to wind Trump up again before election day though.

    Trump is more focused on China now than Canada
    That's because he now realises that China will cause the shelves to be emptied, firstly by lack of deliveries very quickly augmented by panic buying.

    China doesn't seem to worry about this, for now.
    Unlike Trump they are not stupid and know what will happen and happy to see it out
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 44,107

    dixiedean said:

    dixiedean said:



    Here is his photo. He's in shock.

    I find it very strange that at the very least, the murder weapon hasn't been taped off/immediately taken away on low-loader. Anybody can wander up and tamper with the evidence.
    Thought hard about posting this, but it gives you an idea of how "immediate" this was.



    Feel free to remove.
    But some idea of how bewildered the instant aftermath is.
    The "bewildred" reaction seems to be for everybody to get their phones out and take images. Of bodies.

    I guess that is the world we are now in. Everybody is an "on the spot reporter".
    Ghouls, horrible people.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,881
    Book Recommendation

    Antony Beevor’s “Russia: Revolution and Civil War, 1917-1921”

    Extraordinary, lurid, vivid and brutal. I thought I basically knew the story. Turns out I knew 5%

    The cruelty is mind-boggling, on both sides
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