Papa don’t preach – Looking at the contenders to be next Pope – politicalbetting.com
With the death of Pope Francis at 88 after a 12-year pontificate, this header will look at the candidates to succeed him. In Italian, the candidates are known as Papabili (literally Pope-ables).
I'm very excited by the possibility of Peter Erd? I can't remember a proper noun with a question mark attached since the excellent Northern Irish punk/metal/indie crossover band Therapy? Offers all sorts of comic possibilities, plus the enjoyable aspect that you sound quite arch when discussing him.
As both a Catholic and a man I am throwing my hat in the ring buoyed by the news that Liz Hurley is dating Billy Ray Cyrus proving that anything is possible these days.
Will let you know the papal name I choose on here before it’s announced so you guys can get a nice bit of insider action.
Also load up on me resigning before completing a year after a scandal involving some nuns and St Peter’s throne.
I get that some cardinals are more prominent and eminent, also they are cardinals, which probably helps. Nonetheless it feels like a pretty deliberate snub. Leon off of PB? Not even a mention. Despite all my good work, eg setting up my Bangkok personal outreach youth charity Save The Really Hot Ones
Washington just took the reasonable step of not allowing the National Guard of other states to operate here without our agreement. It’s not the Guard personnel we are concerned about, it’s other governors in the Trump cult.
Excellent thread and similar thoughts to a running series that I've prepared for friends and family.
I agree about Turkson. I think he was a bit too young and bumptious during the last Conclave where he was seen as committing the cardinal sin (pun intended) of actively seeking the Papacy. Francis is also a good example of how a strong candidate from a previous Conclave can make a strong showing the second time. He's also somewhat moderated his more conservative social views in recent years which will help.
I can't see any of the candidates who openly opposed Francis winning through. The College of Cardinals is just too dominated by his appointees to elect someone who would be soon as a complete rebuke to his pontificate.
My money is on Zuppi coming through late in the day. He's pretty liberal but extremely likeable and has made some nods to traditionalists over things like the Latin Mass. He's also just about the right age.
I'm very excited by the possibility of Peter Erd? I can't remember a proper noun with a question mark attached since the excellent Northern Irish punk/metal/indie crossover band Therapy? Offers all sorts of comic possibilities, plus the enjoyable aspect that you sound quite arch when discussing him.
I once saw Therapy?
No, I did, at Donnington Park’s Monsters of Rock, I saw Therapy?
I'm very excited by the possibility of Peter Erd? I can't remember a proper noun with a question mark attached since the excellent Northern Irish punk/metal/indie crossover band Therapy? Offers all sorts of comic possibilities, plus the enjoyable aspect that you sound quite arch when discussing him.
I once saw Therapy?
No, I did, at Donnington Park’s Monsters of Rock, I saw Therapy?
No, I really did
Etc
Very good. I saw them twice. Rarely have I seen a crowd so enthusiastically surfed. The second time, I was the third person to do so - some time before the band came on. 100-odd peole cheerfully chanting "you fat bastard!" at me. Doc Martens flailing everywhere. I had a slight scar for weeks after. Happy days.
Must admit that Peter Turkson is my instincit. Can't really explain why other than something about him looks popey. Then again Ratzinger certainly didn't look popey so this heuristic isn't infallible.
It's a no bet for me on a rational basis but I might do a tenner or something for a laugh.
Would prefer it to be on exchange though so I can just lay the favourites.
As both a Catholic and a man I am throwing my hat in the ring buoyed by the news that Liz Hurley is dating Billy Ray Cyrus proving that anything is possible these days.
Will let you know the papal name I choose on here before it’s announced so you guys can get a nice bit of insider action...
I'm very excited by the possibility of Peter Erd? I can't remember a proper noun with a question mark attached since the excellent Northern Irish punk/metal/indie crossover band Therapy? Offers all sorts of comic possibilities, plus the enjoyable aspect that you sound quite arch when discussing him.
I once saw Therapy?
No, I did, at Donnington Park’s Monsters of Rock, I saw Therapy?
No, I really did
Etc
Very good. I saw them twice. Rarely have I seen a crowd so enthusiastically surfed. The second time, I was the third person to do so - some time before the band came on. 100-odd peole cheerfully chanting "you fat bastard!" at me. Doc Martens flailing everywhere. I had a slight scar for weeks after. Happy days.
Superb
Therapy? at Donnington was the last time I got in a mosh pit and truly went for it. Such a buzz. That sense of a huge wild crowd and you’re right in the middle. Yes you could end up trampled to death but up until that moment the adrenaline is fantastic
Useful header - thanks. Though I believe Radcliffe headed up the Dominicans globally, based in Rome for 10 years or so.
I'm just hoping Jeremy Isaacs will play him when they make the movie.
Did you mean Jason Isaacs?
“How do you want to be remembered in history? Alongside the Wright Brothers, Elon Musk, Zefram Cochrane? Or as a failed fungus expert? A selfish little man who put the survival of his own ego before the lives of others?”
Results land 22 April. Revenue is forecast at $21.8bn vs $27.2bn in Q4, with EPS at $0.43 (vs $0.74 in Q4). Deliveries dropped 13% year-on-year, the weakest in three years. Production issues and softer EV demand continue to weigh on performance.
The new State Department reorg appears to cut departments related to global women’s issues, global criminal justice, conflict stabilization operations, trafficking in persons, and international religious freedom offices/bureaus.
Labour MP Tahir Ali takes it to the Tories (Blackman, Jenrick & Badenoch)—claiming they’re controlled by the Indian lobby—in a fiery speech at the Mirpur Airport conference in Birmingham.
Labour MP Tahir Ali takes it to the Tories (Blackman, Jenrick & Badenoch)—claiming they’re controlled by the Indian lobby—in a fiery speech at the Mirpur Airport conference in Birmingham.
I am not cynical at all, but I would not bet the farm on the most famous job in the world, perched in the longest standing tradition of any job in the world going to someone called Arthur from Batley.
Labour MP Tahir Ali takes it to the Tories (Blackman, Jenrick & Badenoch)—claiming they’re controlled by the Indian lobby—in a fiery speech at the Mirpur Airport conference in Birmingham.
Many of the MPs demanding an airport at Mirpur oppose Heathrow runway three to ‘save the planet’.
Keir Starmer no longer believes trans women are women
Sir Keir Starmer no longer believes trans women are women, his spokesman has confirmed after the Supreme Court’s ruling on biological sex.
Starmer told The Times in 2022: “A woman is a female adult, and in addition to that trans women are women, and that is not just my view — that is actually the law.”
However, making his first comments on the Supreme Court judgment, the prime minister welcomed the “clarity” it brought. When asked if Starmer thought a trans woman was a woman, the prime minister’s official spokesman said: “No.”
Labour MP Tahir Ali takes it to the Tories (Blackman, Jenrick & Badenoch)—claiming they’re controlled by the Indian lobby—in a fiery speech at the Mirpur Airport conference in Birmingham.
I thought Birmingham already had an airport?
It’s actually in Solihull, as my Mom always used to tell me, and it’s Elmdon airport. Or used to be.
Yes, just for the name. And I'd hope he didn't ruin it by taking a different Papal one.
There's Zuppi in there too, so they're making a meal of it.
When I first saw the list I thought it a pisstake due to those names 😂
I felt the same about 20 years ago when The Times ran a story about the contenders to be President of South Africa and one of the candidates was Tokyo Sexwale .
Results land 22 April. Revenue is forecast at $21.8bn vs $27.2bn in Q4, with EPS at $0.43 (vs $0.74 in Q4). Deliveries dropped 13% year-on-year, the weakest in three years. Production issues and softer EV demand continue to weigh on performance.
Keir Starmer no longer believes trans women are women
Does he have a recognition certificate for his change of mind?
The fact that Starmer said in 2022 "trans women are women, and that is not just my view — that is actually the law.” must surely be used as a stick to beat him with now. He wasn't just going along with the law at the time, he said it was his view; now he disagree with his 2022 self. Why?
Saw this round the Wight this afternoon. I take it "up to" 24 x F35s on deck mean that it'll actually usually be carrying about 3 serviceable British ones:
It's a limit, rather than a prediction. It will definitely "end" as a life-giving planet by then, but magnetic field problems, axial tilt, asteroid impacts, other extra-stellar supernovas, plate tectonics etc. could all shit the bed well before that.
We probably have 50-100 million years to find and settle on another planet, assuming we survive that long.
Keir Starmer no longer believes trans women are women
Does he have a recognition certificate for his change of mind?
The fact that Starmer said in 2022 "trans women are women, and that is not just my view — that is actually the law.” must surely be used as a stick to beat him with now. He wasn't just agreeing with the law, he said it was his view; now he disagree with his 2022 self. Why?
You might want to read "Get In". Starmer either has changed his mind (there are precedents for this) or has no opinion. Either way he will say that which is most likely to gain/keep power. As David Herdson points out, this Labour government is ideologically untethered.
It's a limit, rather than a prediction. It will definitely "end" as a life-giving planet by then, but magnetic field problems, axial tilt, asteroid impacts, other extra-stellar supernovas, plate tectonics etc. could all shit the bed well before that.
We probably have 50-100 million years to find and settle on another planet, assuming we survive that long.
Maybe the next Pope can tell us if the Rapture will have happened by then
Keir Starmer no longer believes trans women are women
Does he have a recognition certificate for his change of mind?
The fact that Starmer said in 2022 "trans women are women, and that is not just my view — that is actually the law.” must surely be used as a stick to beat him with now. He wasn't just agreeing with the law, he said it was his view; now he disagree with his 2022 self. Why?
You might want to read "Get In". Starmer either has changed his mind (there are precedents for this) or has no opinion. Either way he will say that which is most likely to gain/keep power. As David Herdson points out, this Labour government is ideologically untethered.
To be fair he has contradicted himself on almost every issue since becoming an MP, and it has worked so far. I thought centrists were big on integrity and didn't like liars though
Keir Starmer no longer believes trans women are women
Does he have a recognition certificate for his change of mind?
The fact that Starmer said in 2022 "trans women are women, and that is not just my view — that is actually the law.” must surely be used as a stick to beat him with now. He wasn't just going along with the law at the time, he said it was his view; now he disagree with his 2022 self. Why?
Because what he said in 2022 would now require legislation to overrule the Supreme Court judgment, and he doesn't want to do that because he's afraid it would be unpopular.
The charitable view of all the commitments he made on taxation before the last election was that he thought they were necessary to ensure the election of a Labour government. But now it looks more as though he simply lacks the courage to say anything that may be unpopular. And that this is the reason the government was hamstrung on taxation before it even took office.
Keir Starmer no longer believes trans women are women
Does he have a recognition certificate for his change of mind?
The fact that Starmer said in 2022 "trans women are women, and that is not just my view — that is actually the law.” must surely be used as a stick to beat him with now. He wasn't just agreeing with the law, he said it was his view; now he disagree with his 2022 self. Why?
You might want to read "Get In". Starmer either has changed his mind (there are precedents for this) or has no opinion. Either way he will say that which is most likely to gain/keep power. As David Herdson points out, this Labour government is ideologically untethered.
To be fair he has contradicted himself on almost every issue since becoming an MP, and it has worked so far. I thought centrists were big on integrity and didn't like liars though
I have a set of principles. If you don't like them, i have another set to offer you.
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Great header from @Garethofthevale .
Will let you know the papal name I choose on here before it’s announced so you guys can get a nice bit of insider action.
Also load up on me resigning before completing a year after a scandal involving some nuns and St Peter’s throne.
Nothing like a good spanky.
Not sure which Madge quote is appropriate.
I get that some cardinals are more prominent and eminent, also they are cardinals, which probably helps. Nonetheless it feels like a pretty deliberate snub. Leon off of PB? Not even a mention. Despite all my good work, eg setting up my Bangkok personal outreach youth charity Save The Really Hot Ones
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Washington just took the reasonable step of not allowing the National Guard of other states to operate here without our agreement. It’s not the Guard personnel we are concerned about, it’s other governors in the Trump cult.
https://bsky.app/profile/govjayinslee.bsky.social/post/3lneqoinqus2l
I agree about Turkson. I think he was a bit too young and bumptious during the last Conclave where he was seen as committing the cardinal sin (pun intended) of actively seeking the Papacy. Francis is also a good example of how a strong candidate from a previous Conclave can make a strong showing the second time. He's also somewhat moderated his more conservative social views in recent years which will help.
I can't see any of the candidates who openly opposed Francis winning through. The College of Cardinals is just too dominated by his appointees to elect someone who would be soon as a complete rebuke to his pontificate.
My money is on Zuppi coming through late in the day. He's pretty liberal but extremely likeable and has made some nods to traditionalists over things like the Latin Mass. He's also just about the right age.
No, I did, at Donnington Park’s Monsters of Rock, I saw Therapy?
No, I really did
Etc
https://x.com/TotalSeasons/status/1914421253898940839
I saw them twice. Rarely have I seen a crowd so enthusiastically surfed. The second time, I was the third person to do so - some time before the band came on. 100-odd peole cheerfully chanting "you fat bastard!" at me. Doc Martens flailing everywhere. I had a slight scar for weeks after. Happy days.
It's a no bet for me on a rational basis but I might do a tenner or something for a laugh.
Would prefer it to be on exchange though so I can just lay the favourites.
(Spoiler - I checked and he isn't).
Maybe the election of a new one wouldn't be necessary then.
(Unless it's Parolin.)
That is just bonkers LOL.
Yes, just for the name. And I'd hope he didn't ruin it by taking a different Papal one.
So I'll stay home and watch the snooker.
Therapy? at Donnington was the last time I got in a mosh pit and truly went for it. Such a buzz. That sense of a huge wild crowd and you’re right in the middle. Yes you could end up trampled to death but up until that moment the adrenaline is fantastic
OMG: have we discovered the hidden link between the Catholic Church, the Masons and WIV that brought us COVID?
🚗 Tesla Q1 2025 earnings preview
Results land 22 April. Revenue is forecast at $21.8bn vs $27.2bn in Q4, with EPS at $0.43 (vs $0.74 in Q4).
Deliveries dropped 13% year-on-year, the weakest in three years.
Production issues and softer EV demand continue to weigh on performance.
https://x.com/IGcom/status/1914706185841782935
The new State Department reorg appears to cut departments related to global women’s issues, global criminal justice, conflict stabilization operations, trafficking in persons, and international religious freedom offices/bureaus.
https://bsky.app/profile/tylermcbrien.com/post/3lnfwny5wwc2e
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytA-0xTYRUo
Pope Innocent was a good papal name, we need to bring it back.
Labour MP Tahir Ali takes it to the Tories (Blackman, Jenrick & Badenoch)—claiming they’re controlled by the Indian lobby—in a fiery speech at the Mirpur Airport conference in Birmingham.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocent_(actor)
If you could get the idea past your mother, of course.
There was an abbot;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modestus_of_Jerusalem
😂😂😂😂
Keir Starmer no longer believes trans women are women
Sir Keir Starmer no longer believes trans women are women, his spokesman has confirmed after the Supreme Court’s ruling on biological sex.
Starmer told The Times in 2022: “A woman is a female adult, and in addition to that trans women are women, and that is not just my view — that is actually the law.”
However, making his first comments on the Supreme Court judgment, the prime minister welcomed the “clarity” it brought. When asked if Starmer thought a trans woman was a woman, the prime minister’s official spokesman said: “No.”
https://www.thetimes.com/article/682f8d49-5362-46f9-831b-2a9547c3a3fd?shareToken=ce37fba1164015d5c6028fee5d0e3bb6
Brings to mind possible headlines from the past had Sir Keir been PM
1833: Keir Starmer no longer believes Slavery is ok
1967: Keir Starmer no longer believes homosexuality is dirty
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Sexwale
Whereas the law that Starmer referred to in 2022 is still (supposedly) on the statute book.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocent_Kaia
I don't think JD Vance killed the Pope, I think meeting JD Vance probably drained the Pope's will to live. It's subtly different.
https://x.com/JoePostingg/status/1914277589893447869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9i91-szon4
Just under a billion years away so won’t trouble us. I won’t be here in 30 years time. So not fussed.
https://x.com/konstructivizm/status/1914690657215455476?s=61
https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/8649ad2d-00b8-485d-ab0a-ce3be0799678
As most cardinals are now non European an African Pope like Turkson or an Asia Pope like Tagle are good bets following Latin American Francis.
Tagle is relatively progressive but still conservative on issues like euthanasia and abortion
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8qvn96lj1o
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Victor_I
We probably have 50-100 million years to find and settle on another planet, assuming we survive that long.
The charitable view of all the commitments he made on taxation before the last election was that he thought they were necessary to ensure the election of a Labour government. But now it looks more as though he simply lacks the courage to say anything that may be unpopular. And that this is the reason the government was hamstrung on taxation before it even took office.