Inevitable we will have to choose sides. That means join the EU who will make a pragmatic decision which I suspect will tilt towards China. Who would attach their wagon to a rabid horse?
Good luck with the German and French car industry still existing in a 10 years if they do that. BYD will eat their lunch.
Exactly and if China does try to flood Europe with cheap cars, great for the consumer, but the EU will have to act to protect its declining domestic car industry. It will impose increased tariffs, limit quantities or put in place special checks which simply take time and act as a brake.
Adam Brooks AKA EssexPR 🇬🇧 @EssexPR · 10h I live near a church and have done for a decade, I’ve never seen the road as full with cars.
#EasterSunday
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Either, there really has been an uptick this year in christian church attendance this easter or there is some kind of organized rightwing social media campaign to tell us there has been - because X is full of these kinds of statements today.
Probably nonsense on X but me and my family went to church yesterday in Brading.
Not a service but we lit candles and said prayers.
Then, we had a carvery - not in the church, I hasten to add.
Inevitable we will have to choose sides. That means join the EU who will make a pragmatic decision which I suspect will tilt towards China. Who would attach their wagon to a rabid horse?
Good luck with the German and French car industry still existing in a 10 years if they do that. BYD will eat their lunch.
Exactly and if China does try to flood Europe with cheap cars, great for the consumer, but the EU will have to act to protect its declining domestic car industry. It will impose increased tariffs, limit quantities or put in place special checks which simply take time and act as a brake.
Not just cheap but much more advanced if the push for transition to only EV cars in the next decade. And not just BYD, but Geely, Neo, etc. They all now have Tesla-esque "FSD", most cars come with LiDAR, self park in multiple different ways, etc etc etc.
VW Audi tech is so shit they have had to buy Rivian and software / AI is a big weakness in Germany.
Tim Montgomerie 🇬🇧 @montie · 8h I'm hearing this a lot. Many friends are reporting that Church attendance is growing - especiallly amongst men and in significant numbers
Does he draw any inference from his unsupported anecdote? A source and a theory as to why would be interesting. But it isn't. Just the random burblings of an attention seeking hack bewildered by the utter chaos the Tories and Trump have caused implementing his ideology. If there is a God (spoiler no) he isn't on your team.
The Old Testament God certainly is very rightwing
The Old Testament God could be right-wing, but he could be pretty left-wing too. He demands obedience and dishes out some harsh justice, sure, but he also commands care for the poor, widows, orphans, and foreigners. He institutes debt forgiveness, land redistribution every fifty years, and insists on fair wages and honest treatment of workers. The Sabbath itself is a form of universal rest: even animals get a day off.
Inevitable we will have to choose sides. That means join the EU who will make a pragmatic decision which I suspect will tilt towards China. Who would attach their wagon to a rabid horse?
Good luck with the German and French car industry still existing in a 10 years if they do that. BYD will eat their lunch.
Exactly and if China does try to flood Europe with cheap cars, great for the consumer, but the EU will have to act to protect its declining domestic car industry. It will impose increased tariffs, limit quantities or put in place special checks which simply take time and act as a brake.
Europe can compete against China - there’s better refinement here, generally speaking, with product experiences which are more finished and cohesive.
The challenge as always is cost. Not production cost as such. The big Germans have been charging a lot for indifferent quality for a while, living on their reputation more than their build quality.
So they will keep charging €€€ for a car that someone else will charge € for
Tim Montgomerie 🇬🇧 @montie · 8h I'm hearing this a lot. Many friends are reporting that Church attendance is growing - especiallly amongst men and in significant numbers
Does he draw any inference from his unsupported anecdote? A source and a theory as to why would be interesting. But it isn't. Just the random burblings of an attention seeking hack bewildered by the utter chaos the Tories and Trump have caused implementing his ideology. If there is a God (spoiler no) he isn't on your team.
The Old Testament God certainly is very rightwing
The Old Testament God could be right-wing, but he could be pretty left-wing too. He demands obedience and dishes out some harsh justice, sure, but he also commands care for the poor, widows, orphans, and foreigners. He institutes debt forgiveness, land redistribution every fifty years, and insists on fair wages and honest treatment of workers. The Sabbath itself is a form of universal rest: even animals get a day off.
So, you're saying he was probably Reform?
It was JRM who said that it would be a good few decades before we entered the Promised Land.
Tim Montgomerie 🇬🇧 @montie · 8h I'm hearing this a lot. Many friends are reporting that Church attendance is growing - especiallly amongst men and in significant numbers
Does he draw any inference from his unsupported anecdote? A source and a theory as to why would be interesting. But it isn't. Just the random burblings of an attention seeking hack bewildered by the utter chaos the Tories and Trump have caused implementing his ideology. If there is a God (spoiler no) he isn't on your team.
The Old Testament God certainly is very rightwing
The Old Testament God could be right-wing, but he could be pretty left-wing too. He demands obedience and dishes out some harsh justice, sure, but he also commands care for the poor, widows, orphans, and foreigners. He institutes debt forgiveness, land redistribution every fifty years, and insists on fair wages and honest treatment of workers. The Sabbath itself is a form of universal rest: even animals get a day off.
Yes, you don’t hear much about the original meaning of jubilee these days.
Mind you, the New Testament guy was a radical leftie.
“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ (Matt 25)
I disagree with that - it depends perhaps on what you mean by "these days",and "long term".
The Jubilee 2000 Movement was a key player in leading to the cancellation of £100 billion of international debt around the year 2000. That lead to the cancellation of ~2/3 of the international debt of the poorest 35 countries - freeing up resources for development.
That started in the churches, based on the Jubilee concept.
Inevitable we will have to choose sides. That means join the EU who will make a pragmatic decision which I suspect will tilt towards China. Who would attach their wagon to a rabid horse?
Good luck with the German and French car industry still existing in a 10 years if they do that. BYD will eat their lunch.
Exactly and if China does try to flood Europe with cheap cars, great for the consumer, but the EU will have to act to protect its declining domestic car industry. It will impose increased tariffs, limit quantities or put in place special checks which simply take time and act as a brake.
Europe can compete against China - there’s better refinement here, generally speaking, with product experiences which are more finished and cohesive.
The challenge as always is cost. Not production cost as such. The big Germans have been charging a lot for indifferent quality for a while, living on their reputation more than their build quality.
So they will keep charging €€€ for a car that someone else will charge € for
Some of the cars I saw in Asia from the Chinese manufactures were absolutely top notch with more features than any European car. Currently the stuff that gets sent to Europe is the cheapo end of things.
Tim Montgomerie 🇬🇧 @montie · 8h I'm hearing this a lot. Many friends are reporting that Church attendance is growing - especiallly amongst men and in significant numbers
Does he draw any inference from his unsupported anecdote? A source and a theory as to why would be interesting. But it isn't. Just the random burblings of an attention seeking hack bewildered by the utter chaos the Tories and Trump have caused implementing his ideology. If there is a God (spoiler no) he isn't on your team.
The Old Testament God certainly is very rightwing
The Old Testament God could be right-wing, but he could be pretty left-wing too. He demands obedience and dishes out some harsh justice, sure, but he also commands care for the poor, widows, orphans, and foreigners. He institutes debt forgiveness, land redistribution every fifty years, and insists on fair wages and honest treatment of workers. The Sabbath itself is a form of universal rest: even animals get a day off.
So, you're saying he was probably Reform?
It was JRM who said that it would be a good few decades before we entered the Promised Land.
Anything I hear Jacob Rees-Mogg say something that doesn't make think he's an idiot is something I take as a Sinai need help.
Inevitable we will have to choose sides. That means join the EU who will make a pragmatic decision which I suspect will tilt towards China. Who would attach their wagon to a rabid horse?
Good luck with the German and French car industry still existing in a 10 years if they do that. BYD will eat their lunch.
Exactly and if China does try to flood Europe with cheap cars, great for the consumer, but the EU will have to act to protect its declining domestic car industry. It will impose increased tariffs, limit quantities or put in place special checks which simply take time and act as a brake.
Not just cheap but much more advanced if the push for transition to only EV cars in the next decade. And not just BYD, but Geely, Neo, etc. They all now have Tesla-esque "FSD", most cars come with LiDAR, self park in multiple different ways, etc etc etc. VW Audi tech is so shit they have had to buy Rivian.
I read some commentary on Twitter from people who had been to China and seen what was going on there and pretty much what you are saying, we are so far behind what is going on. Our domestic car industry is in decline, possibly terminal. Certainly without protection. There’s a total lack of innovation. That seems to be the consensus. But it’s not just us, the US too. Tesla once an innovator is playing catch up.
Looking at that list, he's including things like high standards for animal welfare, and a whole laundry list.
If Trump thinks the rest of the world will cave in on things like that, then he's a mule called Chump who needs a bang on his muzzle with a 2x4 to bring him to heel. And he'll get it.
Call Hacksaw Jim Duggan with his trusty bit of 2 by 4 to do the job.
Inevitable we will have to choose sides. That means join the EU who will make a pragmatic decision which I suspect will tilt towards China. Who would attach their wagon to a rabid horse?
Good luck with the German and French car industry still existing in a 10 years if they do that. BYD will eat their lunch.
Exactly and if China does try to flood Europe with cheap cars, great for the consumer, but the EU will have to act to protect its declining domestic car industry. It will impose increased tariffs, limit quantities or put in place special checks which simply take time and act as a brake.
Not just cheap but much more advanced if the push for transition to only EV cars in the next decade. And not just BYD, but Geely, Neo, etc. They all now have Tesla-esque "FSD", most cars come with LiDAR, self park in multiple different ways, etc etc etc. VW Audi tech is so shit they have had to buy Rivian.
I read some commentary on Twitter from people who had been to China and seen what was going on there and pretty much what you are saying, we are so far behind what is going on. Our domestic car industry is in decline, possibly terminal. Certainly without protection. There’s a total lack of innovation. That seems to be the consensus. But it’s not just us, the US too. Tesla once an innovator is playing catch up.
There is certainly a lot of "experimentation" and they throw all sorts of things at it resulting in some odd cars, but the higher end ones have everything a European car has plus loads more.
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
Thing is, you get people who sneer at Easter, or play it down, reducing it to one of many in a free market of religions of that - and dismissing the Christian roots of the country - and then you see precisely why Trump gets so many votes.
Reading the mad and vindictive tripe spouted by Trump in the post quoted above, I genuinely don't see why Trump gets so many votes. I've lived long enough in the real world to know that this lack of understanding isn't due to a moral failing on my part.
Not surprised Casino is a Trump lover
Just seen this. I can't let that pass.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
On the Easter messages, whether it's Obama, Starmer or even the Royal Family it's the "to those who celebrate" bit that irks.
Easter is a national holiday. By law. It's part of the sociocultural fabric of the country. Part of the national calendar.
They should just say Happy Easter, and leave the religious celebration bit unsaid. This is exactly what I do at work and in my OOO messages. To do otherwise risks it being seen as a niche religious festival that's just one of many with no special status in a free market of religious ideas. It's hyperlib stuff.
No-one says, "Merry Christmas.. to those who celebrate..!" outside a weird progressive minority.
I noted Rachel from accounts interview on this topic. The UK is going to fold and list the slave labour using Shein on the FTSE aren't we, and doesn't sound like she is bothered by Chinese EVs flooding the UK market (despite what the security services say).
Slavery and torture are okay, provided they get outsourced, in the eyes of a lot of Western politicians.
Inevitable we will have to choose sides. That means join the EU who will make a pragmatic decision which I suspect will tilt towards China. Who would attach their wagon to a rabid horse?
Good luck with the German and French car industry still existing in a 10 years if they do that. BYD will eat their lunch.
Exactly and if China does try to flood Europe with cheap cars, great for the consumer, but the EU will have to act to protect its declining domestic car industry. It will impose increased tariffs, limit quantities or put in place special checks which simply take time and act as a brake.
Not just cheap but much more advanced if the push for transition to only EV cars in the next decade. And not just BYD, but Geely, Neo, etc. They all now have Tesla-esque "FSD", most cars come with LiDAR, self park in multiple different ways, etc etc etc. VW Audi tech is so shit they have had to buy Rivian.
I read some commentary on Twitter from people who had been to China and seen what was going on there and pretty much what you are saying, we are so far behind what is going on. Our domestic car industry is in decline, possibly terminal. Certainly without protection. There’s a total lack of innovation. That seems to be the consensus. But it’s not just us, the US too. Tesla once an innovator is playing catch up.
There is certainly a lot of "experimentation" and they throw all sorts of things at it resulting in some odd cars, but the higher end ones have everything a European car has plus loads more.
I had a Quick Look at the Lynk one which is basically a Land Rover competitor. Designed in Sweden.
The interior trim fit and finish looks exceptional. Far better than what Land Rover were doing.
End of the year parking space to parking space drive technology coming !! Wow.
Inevitable we will have to choose sides. That means join the EU who will make a pragmatic decision which I suspect will tilt towards China. Who would attach their wagon to a rabid horse?
Good luck with the German and French car industry still existing in a 10 years if they do that. BYD will eat their lunch.
Exactly and if China does try to flood Europe with cheap cars, great for the consumer, but the EU will have to act to protect its declining domestic car industry. It will impose increased tariffs, limit quantities or put in place special checks which simply take time and act as a brake.
Europe can compete against China - there’s better refinement here, generally speaking, with product experiences which are more finished and cohesive.
The challenge as always is cost. Not production cost as such. The big Germans have been charging a lot for indifferent quality for a while, living on their reputation more than their build quality.
So they will keep charging €€€ for a car that someone else will charge € for
Some of the cars I saw in Asia from the Chinese manufactures were absolutely top notch with more features than any European car. Currently the stuff that gets sent to Europe is the cheapo end of things.
Sure! And they’re keeping for themselves all kinds of interesting vehicles.
From what I see and hear though many Chinese cars have great features in isolation but struggle to make them work cohesively when other features are poor.
Whilst that gives an advantage to European manufacturers now, it won’t last. China will catch up rapidly as it already has on things like battery tech and motor efficiency.
Chinese manufacturers need western brand names though. Some of the ones coming to Uk shores are absurd.
Germans who are much less puritanical than the English tend to have mixed saunas in hotels. I don't know how these new rules would work if applied. I think most European countries would struggle. They just don't share the same hang-ups we do. Ads are the same.
Indeed. I wonder if elitist single sex schooling plays a role in shaping these strange values.
I doubt it, we would have positively welcomed naked ladies in our communal shower and changing rooms.
Tim Montgomerie 🇬🇧 @montie · 8h I'm hearing this a lot. Many friends are reporting that Church attendance is growing - especiallly amongst men and in significant numbers
Does he draw any inference from his unsupported anecdote? A source and a theory as to why would be interesting. But it isn't. Just the random burblings of an attention seeking hack bewildered by the utter chaos the Tories and Trump have caused implementing his ideology. If there is a God (spoiler no) he isn't on your team.
The Old Testament God certainly is very rightwing
The Old Testament God could be right-wing, but he could be pretty left-wing too. He demands obedience and dishes out some harsh justice, sure, but he also commands care for the poor, widows, orphans, and foreigners. He institutes debt forgiveness, land redistribution every fifty years, and insists on fair wages and honest treatment of workers. The Sabbath itself is a form of universal rest: even animals get a day off.
Yes, you don’t hear much about the original meaning of jubilee these days.
Mind you, the New Testament guy was a radical leftie.
“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ (Matt 25)
“Man’s greatest joy is to slaughter his enemies; to crush them and drive them before him, and to listen to the lamentations of the women.”
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
Thing is, you get people who sneer at Easter, or play it down, reducing it to one of many in a free market of religions of that - and dismissing the Christian roots of the country - and then you see precisely why Trump gets so many votes.
Reading the mad and vindictive tripe spouted by Trump in the post quoted above, I genuinely don't see why Trump gets so many votes. I've lived long enough in the real world to know that this lack of understanding isn't due to a moral failing on my part.
Not surprised Casino is a Trump lover
Just seen this. I can't let that pass.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
Well said.
And if the Democratic party don't work out very quickly why he wins votes and defeat him then we are all doomed.
Inevitable we will have to choose sides. That means join the EU who will make a pragmatic decision which I suspect will tilt towards China. Who would attach their wagon to a rabid horse?
Good luck with the German and French car industry still existing in a 10 years if they do that. BYD will eat their lunch.
Exactly and if China does try to flood Europe with cheap cars, great for the consumer, but the EU will have to act to protect its declining domestic car industry. It will impose increased tariffs, limit quantities or put in place special checks which simply take time and act as a brake.
Europe can compete against China - there’s better refinement here, generally speaking, with product experiences which are more finished and cohesive.
The challenge as always is cost. Not production cost as such. The big Germans have been charging a lot for indifferent quality for a while, living on their reputation more than their build quality.
So they will keep charging €€€ for a car that someone else will charge € for
Perhaps if Automotive OEMs in Europe were more focussed on build quality and product development being focussed on quality and less focussed on cost downs and screwing endless reductions from the supply chain to hit a witless corporate metric they’d be in a better place. For one you would not have suppliers trying to hide profits and inflate costs as they know the OEM purchase team will be demanding reductions. You’d also get a more collaborative approach and large tier 1s looking at more innovation.
Perhaps if Nissan weren’t so conservative with their design and product innovation they may stand a chance.
I’m afraid the European car industry will go the same way as the U.K. one. Terminal decline with factories ending up being owned by large overseas manufacturers. I’m glad I don’t work in it anymore.
Tim Montgomerie 🇬🇧 @montie · 8h I'm hearing this a lot. Many friends are reporting that Church attendance is growing - especiallly amongst men and in significant numbers
I knew church attendance was going down, but I didn't realise it was going down so badly Montgomery would think it was rocketing.
Attendance is definitely growing. I cannot recall seeing so many on an Easter Sunday in my parish.
We ran out of chairs at our church yesterday. Conservative Evangelical Low Church Anglicans. I don't think I've seen that happen at Easter for a long time - certainly not since Covid. Thinking about it, we've bought new higher density seating since Covid as well, which has probably increased the buildings capacity by 10—15%.
I would say that the congregation is generally growing at the moment - it's taken a while to recover from Covid, but over the last 12 months or so we've seen a number of new families join us.
IIRC you are at St Helens, Bishopsgate in London.
That's important as it illustrates that growth is in diverse places - St Helens being a church which aiui opted out of Women Priests 3 decades ago, and has maintained the stance. They now also have quite a history of starting new churches iirc.
I've always been interested in St Helens as Rev Dick Lucas (Vicar 1961-1998, and still alive at 99) was an early pioneer in engagement of Christian faith with the corporate world, business ethics etc. When I first went to a service there in I think 1997-8 (but could be early 1990s *) the attendance was of the order of 800-1000 each week. St Helens was his creation in the same way that All Souls was the creation of John Stott.
It's worth noting that large gather CofE churches in London are more like Roman Catholic parishes in having most of their congregation commuting to church. Most CofE parishes are not like that.
* St Helens had a very major Quinlain Terry renovation in 1992-3 at the instigation of the IRA, which doubled the seating capacity to ~1000.
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
Thing is, you get people who sneer at Easter, or play it down, reducing it to one of many in a free market of religions of that - and dismissing the Christian roots of the country - and then you see precisely why Trump gets so many votes.
Reading the mad and vindictive tripe spouted by Trump in the post quoted above, I genuinely don't see why Trump gets so many votes. I've lived long enough in the real world to know that this lack of understanding isn't due to a moral failing on my part.
Not surprised Casino is a Trump lover
Just seen this. I can't let that pass.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
Well said.
And if the Democratic party don't work out very quickly why he wins votes and defeat him then we are all doomed.
Friend who campaigned for Kamala says the Democrats are still the problem. Apparently calling the people who voted for your opponent "thick anti-trans racists" isn't a vote winner - who knew?
Tim Montgomerie 🇬🇧 @montie · 8h I'm hearing this a lot. Many friends are reporting that Church attendance is growing - especiallly amongst men and in significant numbers
Does he draw any inference from his unsupported anecdote? A source and a theory as to why would be interesting. But it isn't. Just the random burblings of an attention seeking hack bewildered by the utter chaos the Tories and Trump have caused implementing his ideology. If there is a God (spoiler no) he isn't on your team.
The Old Testament God certainly is very rightwing
The Old Testament God could be right-wing, but he could be pretty left-wing too. He demands obedience and dishes out some harsh justice, sure, but he also commands care for the poor, widows, orphans, and foreigners. He institutes debt forgiveness, land redistribution every fifty years, and insists on fair wages and honest treatment of workers. The Sabbath itself is a form of universal rest: even animals get a day off.
Yes, you don’t hear much about the original meaning of jubilee these days.
Mind you, the New Testament guy was a radical leftie.
“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ (Matt 25)
“Man’s greatest joy is to slaughter his enemies; to crush them and drive them before him, and to listen to the lamentations of the women.”
The Gospel According To St Ahnuld. Who, we are reassured, will be back.
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
Thing is, you get people who sneer at Easter, or play it down, reducing it to one of many in a free market of religions of that - and dismissing the Christian roots of the country - and then you see precisely why Trump gets so many votes.
Reading the mad and vindictive tripe spouted by Trump in the post quoted above, I genuinely don't see why Trump gets so many votes. I've lived long enough in the real world to know that this lack of understanding isn't due to a moral failing on my part.
Not surprised Casino is a Trump lover
Just seen this. I can't let that pass.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
Well said.
And if the Democratic party don't work out very quickly why he wins votes and defeat him then we are all doomed.
Thanks. I don't see any sign the Democratic Party has learned a bean since November.
I hope I've got that badly wrong. But occasionally I pop up and ask a liberal American and I always get the same tired old clichéd answers we've all heard before.
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
Thing is, you get people who sneer at Easter, or play it down, reducing it to one of many in a free market of religions of that - and dismissing the Christian roots of the country - and then you see precisely why Trump gets so many votes.
Reading the mad and vindictive tripe spouted by Trump in the post quoted above, I genuinely don't see why Trump gets so many votes. I've lived long enough in the real world to know that this lack of understanding isn't due to a moral failing on my part.
Not surprised Casino is a Trump lover
Just seen this. I can't let that pass.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
Well said.
And if the Democratic party don't work out very quickly why he wins votes and defeat him then we are all doomed.
I recently read Kipling’s poem A General Summary, for the first time. It’s easy to understand why people vote for Trump, after reading that. He appeals to every immoral instinct among humans.
Tim Montgomerie 🇬🇧 @montie · 8h I'm hearing this a lot. Many friends are reporting that Church attendance is growing - especiallly amongst men and in significant numbers
Does he draw any inference from his unsupported anecdote? A source and a theory as to why would be interesting. But it isn't. Just the random burblings of an attention seeking hack bewildered by the utter chaos the Tories and Trump have caused implementing his ideology. If there is a God (spoiler no) he isn't on your team.
The Old Testament God certainly is very rightwing
The Old Testament God could be right-wing, but he could be pretty left-wing too. He demands obedience and dishes out some harsh justice, sure, but he also commands care for the poor, widows, orphans, and foreigners. He institutes debt forgiveness, land redistribution every fifty years, and insists on fair wages and honest treatment of workers. The Sabbath itself is a form of universal rest: even animals get a day off.
So, you're saying he was probably Reform?
I think he's saying He's yet another individual who can't be squeezed into a late 20C political spectrum .
I noted Rachel from accounts interview on this topic. The UK is going to fold and list the slave labour using Shein on the FTSE aren't we, and doesn't sound like she is bothered by Chinese EVs flooding the UK market (despite what the security services say).
Slavery and torture are okay, provided they get outsourced, in the eyes of a lot of Western politicians.
Tim Montgomerie 🇬🇧 @montie · 8h I'm hearing this a lot. Many friends are reporting that Church attendance is growing - especiallly amongst men and in significant numbers
I knew church attendance was going down, but I didn't realise it was going down so badly Montgomery would think it was rocketing.
Attendance is definitely growing. I cannot recall seeing so many on an Easter Sunday in my parish.
We ran out of chairs at our church yesterday. Conservative Evangelical Low Church Anglicans. I don't think I've seen that happen at Easter for a long time - certainly not since Covid. Thinking about it, we've bought new higher density seating since Covid as well, which has probably increased the buildings capacity by 10—15%.
I would say that the congregation is generally growing at the moment - it's taken a while to recover from Covid, but over the last 12 months or so we've seen a number of new families join us.
It might be interesting to see similar stats for attendance at Easter services, as that is what we are talking about and increased attendance on high days and holidays may precede regular attendance
Tim Montgomerie 🇬🇧 @montie · 8h I'm hearing this a lot. Many friends are reporting that Church attendance is growing - especiallly amongst men and in significant numbers
I knew church attendance was going down, but I didn't realise it was going down so badly Montgomery would think it was rocketing.
Attendance is definitely growing. I cannot recall seeing so many on an Easter Sunday in my parish.
We ran out of chairs at our church yesterday. Conservative Evangelical Low Church Anglicans. I don't think I've seen that happen at Easter for a long time - certainly not since Covid. Thinking about it, we've bought new higher density seating since Covid as well, which has probably increased the buildings capacity by 10—15%.
I would say that the congregation is generally growing at the moment - it's taken a while to recover from Covid, but over the last 12 months or so we've seen a number of new families join us.
IIRC you are at St Helens, Bishopsgate in London.
That's important as it illustrates that growth is in diverse places - St Helens being a church which aiui opted out of Women Priests 3 decades ago, and has maintained the stance. They now also have quite a history of starting new churches iirc.
I've always been interested in St Helens as Rev Dick Lucas (Vicar 1961-1998, and still alive at 99) was an early pioneer in engagement of Christian faith with the corporate world, business ethics etc. When I first went to a service there in I think 1997-8 (but could be early 1990s *) the attendance was of the order of 800-1000 each week. St Helens was his creation in the same way that All Souls was the creation of John Stott.
It's worth noting that large gather CofE churches in London are more like Roman Catholic parishes in having most of their congregation commuting to church. Most CofE parishes are not like that.
* St Helens had a very major Quinlain Terry renovation in 1992-3 at the instigation of the IRA, which doubled the seating capacity to ~1000.
Typo: that should be "large gathered CofE churches" - in the literature they would probably say "eclectic".
Yeah, I'm with isam and leon here. Weird message by SKS, although that does appear to be the least of his problems rn.
"contribution Christians have made to this country"? Just weird.
What on Earth is weird or wrong about that? Even as an atheist I'd acknowledge that Christian have made contributions to this country and Easter is a polite day to recognise that.
Christians, like Jews, Pagans, atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and more have throughout history made contributions to this country.
The only reason I could see anyone could object is if someone was stupid enough to think Christians haven't contributed, or stupid enough to think they're the only ones who have. Which is it?
It's that we are a Christian country and the massage was phrased as though Christians were, as isam noted, visitors who made a plucky contribution to the country.
We are not a Christian country, we are a diverse one in which Christians are one minority amongst many, with an established Church.
Formally we are a Christian country although of course there are many faiths and people of no faith (bonjour).
Formally we have an established Church. That is all.
We are a diverse country. There is no requirement for citizens of this country to be members of the established Church and never has been.
"At the institutional level, the Anglican Church maintains its status of religion of the state and the King is still Head of the Church: hence by law, England is still a Christian country, which entails some specific privileges for the Church of England that are not extended to other religions."
So you know, legally and all, we are a Christian country.
Why is it legal to lend money at interest then?
Ummm: because Christianity does not forbid it?
Indeed: the The Institute for the Works of Religion (which is basically the Catholic Church's own bank) has both lent and borrowed money with interest. (Not that the UK is a Roman Catholic country. But still.)
I'm shocked. There are hypocrites in the Vatican?
The second Lateral Council (1139) barred usurers from Christian burial.
The third (1179) denied them any sacrament at all if they didn't repent.
The Council of Vienne (1311) declared the belief that usury was okay to be a heresy.
Benedict XIV's Vix Pervenit encyclical (1745) makes clear that usury is a sin and "One cannot condone the sin of usury by arguing that the gain is not great or excessive, but rather moderate or small". As for the definition:
"The nature of the sin called usury has its proper place and origin in a loan contract. This financial contract between consenting parties demands, by its very nature, that one return to another only as much as he has received. The sin rests on the fact that sometimes the creditor desires more than he has given. Therefore he contends some gain is owed him beyond that which he loaned, but any gain which exceeds the amount he gave is illicit and usurious."
The value of £100 now is not the same as £100 in a year's time.
So how do you measure gain?
Try that in mitigation. Or even as a defence.
How much inflation would there be if no-one lent money for gain? If it was usurers who created and continue to recreate the overall environment, then "I had to charge interest because otherwise my huge pile of money would fall in value" might not be enough to beat the rap.
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
Thing is, you get people who sneer at Easter, or play it down, reducing it to one of many in a free market of religions of that - and dismissing the Christian roots of the country - and then you see precisely why Trump gets so many votes.
Reading the mad and vindictive tripe spouted by Trump in the post quoted above, I genuinely don't see why Trump gets so many votes. I've lived long enough in the real world to know that this lack of understanding isn't due to a moral failing on my part.
Not surprised Casino is a Trump lover
Just seen this. I can't let that pass.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
The people who support him are stupid ill educated oafs or greedy rich hangers on hoping to get some of his crumbs. It is not difficult. We are heading the same way with an increasing population of morons who can only understand pictures and believe any old shit.
Inevitable we will have to choose sides. That means join the EU who will make a pragmatic decision which I suspect will tilt towards China. Who would attach their wagon to a rabid horse?
Good luck with the German and French car industry still existing in a 10 years if they do that. BYD will eat their lunch.
Any suggestions for an electric car? Small but comfortable but not a Tesla. Someone said a BMW 3I but they dont make them anymore.
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
Thing is, you get people who sneer at Easter, or play it down, reducing it to one of many in a free market of religions of that - and dismissing the Christian roots of the country - and then you see precisely why Trump gets so many votes.
Reading the mad and vindictive tripe spouted by Trump in the post quoted above, I genuinely don't see why Trump gets so many votes. I've lived long enough in the real world to know that this lack of understanding isn't due to a moral failing on my part.
Not surprised Casino is a Trump lover
Just seen this. I can't let that pass.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
Well said.
And if the Democratic party don't work out very quickly why he wins votes and defeat him then we are all doomed.
Thanks. I don't see any sign the Democratic Party has learned a bean since November.
I hope I've got that badly wrong. But occasionally I pop up and ask a liberal American and I always get the same tired old clichéd answers we've all heard before.
They need to. I’ve on from ‘Kamala was great, the voters were wrong’ to some introspection. I get the impression AOC gets that.
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
Thing is, you get people who sneer at Easter, or play it down, reducing it to one of many in a free market of religions of that - and dismissing the Christian roots of the country - and then you see precisely why Trump gets so many votes.
Reading the mad and vindictive tripe spouted by Trump in the post quoted above, I genuinely don't see why Trump gets so many votes. I've lived long enough in the real world to know that this lack of understanding isn't due to a moral failing on my part.
Not surprised Casino is a Trump lover
Just seen this. I can't let that pass.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
The people who support him are stupid ill educated oafs or greedy rich hangers on hoping to get some of his crumbs. It is not difficult. We are heading the same way with an increasing population of morons who can only understand pictures and believe any old shit.
I rarely read newspapers or follow social media anymore.
I'm much calmer. You can become well informed without touching much if any of that.
One part of the increase in Church attendances yesterday may be down to the Orthodox Easter being on the same date as the Western this year (it isn't always).
Our local Church has evangelical groups and Christian services conducted in Tamil as well as the main Anglican service so there was a steady flow of traffic yesterday.
To be fair, we have lots of faith(s) in East Ham - the mosques and other prayer places are busy on Fridays and you see the older more devout Muslims making the trek to the mosque at all hours. We have a local Sikh temple in the High Street as well which provides food (not quite a carvery in the Church but still).
Our neighbours are Catholics so go to their Church every Sunday.
I wouldn't say we were an agnostic or atheist nation at all and I don't know if the rise in attendance at Christian Churches is being matched at the places of worship of other faiths.
As to why, in general, more people are turning toward religion I think we can all suggest the obvious reasons. Many religions do contain within them some very strong positive messages about individual morality and social cohesion (not all and there are many other less amenable messages to be blunt) so that in itself may be a cause for optimism but I have found professing a faith and living to the tenets of that faith aren't always one and the same thing.
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
Thing is, you get people who sneer at Easter, or play it down, reducing it to one of many in a free market of religions of that - and dismissing the Christian roots of the country - and then you see precisely why Trump gets so many votes.
Reading the mad and vindictive tripe spouted by Trump in the post quoted above, I genuinely don't see why Trump gets so many votes. I've lived long enough in the real world to know that this lack of understanding isn't due to a moral failing on my part.
Not surprised Casino is a Trump lover
Just seen this. I can't let that pass.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
Trump's political psychological success is dismally easy to explain.
He's a liar.
That means that he can tell everyone things that the want to be true, even when they're contradictory or just plain rubbish. It's why he can say, and demand that others say, that he didn't lose in 2020.
And when someone is willing and able to lie utterly blatantly, it's blooming hard to defeat them in argument. They will always go further than you are prepared to go.
(And to make this non-partisan, my first political campaigning experience was against a small town Liberal who had that talent in spades.)
Concluding anything else from his electoral success is just wishful thinking by thoughtful commentators. Which is one of the reasons Trump's lies work.
Tim Montgomerie 🇬🇧 @montie · 8h I'm hearing this a lot. Many friends are reporting that Church attendance is growing - especiallly amongst men and in significant numbers
Does he draw any inference from his unsupported anecdote? A source and a theory as to why would be interesting. But it isn't. Just the random burblings of an attention seeking hack bewildered by the utter chaos the Tories and Trump have caused implementing his ideology. If there is a God (spoiler no) he isn't on your team.
I presume it is based upon this?
A new report from The Bible Society suggests a resurgence of Christianity in the UK, driven primarily by young adults and particularly young men.
I think the bulleted list in the first of those pieces is quite good. And also the second piece is good, though she does not make the important note that the "Harbour Church, Folkestone" is an Assemblies of God Pentecostal church meeting in what I take to be a former, or leased, CofE building.
This is the bulleted list. I would add things such as current high-tensions causing anxiety, the Dawkins new atheism balloon having deflated, and local Councils withdrawing many non-statutory social services so churches are one of the set of groups still out there doing the work and providing the services. There was a not dissimilar trend in the late 1970s / early 1980s, with some similarities - anxiety caused by Mrs Thatcher's policies, 3 million unemployed etc. - This shift is attributed to several factors, including a change in the perception of Christianity, a search for belonging, and the potential benefits for mental well-being. - Young Christians cite a sense of community, personal connection with God, and hope as key aspects of their faith. - The report also notes higher life satisfaction and lower stress levels among churchgoers compared to non-churchgoers.
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
Thing is, you get people who sneer at Easter, or play it down, reducing it to one of many in a free market of religions of that - and dismissing the Christian roots of the country - and then you see precisely why Trump gets so many votes.
Reading the mad and vindictive tripe spouted by Trump in the post quoted above, I genuinely don't see why Trump gets so many votes. I've lived long enough in the real world to know that this lack of understanding isn't due to a moral failing on my part.
Not surprised Casino is a Trump lover
Just seen this. I can't let that pass.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
Trump's political psychological success is dismally easy to explain.
He's a liar.
That means that he can tell everyone things that the want to be true, even when they're contradictory or just plain rubbish. It's why he can say, and demand that others say, that he didn't lose in 2020.
And when someone is willing and able to lie utterly blatantly, it's blooming hard to defeat them in argument. They will always go further than you are prepared to go.
(And to make this non-partisan, my first political campaigning experience was against a small town Liberal who had that talent in spades.)
Concluding anything else from his electoral success is just wishful thinking by thoughtful commentators. Which is one of the reasons Trump's lies work.
Is the reason he lost in 2020 that he had second thoughts and cooled it a bit with the lies?
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
Thing is, you get people who sneer at Easter, or play it down, reducing it to one of many in a free market of religions of that - and dismissing the Christian roots of the country - and then you see precisely why Trump gets so many votes.
Reading the mad and vindictive tripe spouted by Trump in the post quoted above, I genuinely don't see why Trump gets so many votes. I've lived long enough in the real world to know that this lack of understanding isn't due to a moral failing on my part.
Not surprised Casino is a Trump lover
Just seen this. I can't let that pass.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
Trump's political psychological success is dismally easy to explain.
He's a liar.
That means that he can tell everyone things that the want to be true, even when they're contradictory or just plain rubbish. It's why he can say, and demand that others say, that he didn't lose in 2020.
And when someone is willing and able to lie utterly blatantly, it's blooming hard to defeat them in argument. They will always go further than you are prepared to go.
(And to make this non-partisan, my first political campaigning experience was against a small town Liberal who had that talent in spades.)
Concluding anything else from his electoral success is just wishful thinking by thoughtful commentators. Which is one of the reasons Trump's lies work.
Yes, he lies, but this is an entirely inadequate answer.
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
Thing is, you get people who sneer at Easter, or play it down, reducing it to one of many in a free market of religions of that - and dismissing the Christian roots of the country - and then you see precisely why Trump gets so many votes.
Reading the mad and vindictive tripe spouted by Trump in the post quoted above, I genuinely don't see why Trump gets so many votes. I've lived long enough in the real world to know that this lack of understanding isn't due to a moral failing on my part.
Not surprised Casino is a Trump lover
Just seen this. I can't let that pass.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
Trump's political psychological success is dismally easy to explain.
He's a liar.
That means that he can tell everyone things that the want to be true, even when they're contradictory or just plain rubbish. It's why he can say, and demand that others say, that he didn't lose in 2020.
And when someone is willing and able to lie utterly blatantly, it's blooming hard to defeat them in argument. They will always go further than you are prepared to go.
(And to make this non-partisan, my first political campaigning experience was against a small town Liberal who had that talent in spades.)
Concluding anything else from his electoral success is just wishful thinking by thoughtful commentators. Which is one of the reasons Trump's lies work.
Is the reason he lost in 2020 that he had second thoughts and cooled it a bit with the lies?
The voters decided not to vote against their own self interest and decided not to be fooled. Of course.
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
Thing is, you get people who sneer at Easter, or play it down, reducing it to one of many in a free market of religions of that - and dismissing the Christian roots of the country - and then you see precisely why Trump gets so many votes.
Reading the mad and vindictive tripe spouted by Trump in the post quoted above, I genuinely don't see why Trump gets so many votes. I've lived long enough in the real world to know that this lack of understanding isn't due to a moral failing on my part.
Not surprised Casino is a Trump lover
Just seen this. I can't let that pass.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
Trump's political psychological success is dismally easy to explain.
He's a liar.
That means that he can tell everyone things that the want to be true, even when they're contradictory or just plain rubbish. It's why he can say, and demand that others say, that he didn't lose in 2020.
And when someone is willing and able to lie utterly blatantly, it's blooming hard to defeat them in argument. They will always go further than you are prepared to go.
(And to make this non-partisan, my first political campaigning experience was against a small town Liberal who had that talent in spades.)
Concluding anything else from his electoral success is just wishful thinking by thoughtful commentators. Which is one of the reasons Trump's lies work.
Yes, he lies, but this is an entirely inadequate answer.
It’s usual centrist Dad fodder. Copium. The voters are wrong. They vote against their own interests. The voters were deluded/fell for lies. With that mindset they will never find out why they really lost as they already know based on their own prejudices.
Trump lies, he’s not alone as a politician in that.
Inevitable we will have to choose sides. That means join the EU who will make a pragmatic decision which I suspect will tilt towards China. Who would attach their wagon to a rabid horse?
Good luck with the German and French car industry still existing in a 10 years if they do that. BYD will eat their lunch.
Any suggestions for an electric car? Small but comfortable but not a Tesla. Someone said a BMW 3I but they dont make them anymore.
A bit of fun runabout?
As you like things French - Renault are probably the most serious EV manufacturer in Europe now. The new Renault 5 gets rave reviews. Tight for space in the back though.
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
Thing is, you get people who sneer at Easter, or play it down, reducing it to one of many in a free market of religions of that - and dismissing the Christian roots of the country - and then you see precisely why Trump gets so many votes.
Reading the mad and vindictive tripe spouted by Trump in the post quoted above, I genuinely don't see why Trump gets so many votes. I've lived long enough in the real world to know that this lack of understanding isn't due to a moral failing on my part.
Not surprised Casino is a Trump lover
Just seen this. I can't let that pass.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
Trump's political psychological success is dismally easy to explain.
He's a liar.
That means that he can tell everyone things that the want to be true, even when they're contradictory or just plain rubbish. It's why he can say, and demand that others say, that he didn't lose in 2020.
And when someone is willing and able to lie utterly blatantly, it's blooming hard to defeat them in argument. They will always go further than you are prepared to go.
(And to make this non-partisan, my first political campaigning experience was against a small town Liberal who had that talent in spades.)
Concluding anything else from his electoral success is just wishful thinking by thoughtful commentators. Which is one of the reasons Trump's lies work.
Yes, he lies, but this is an entirely inadequate answer.
It’s usual centrist Dad fodder. Copium. The voters are wrong. They vote against their own interests. The voters were deluded/fell for lies. With that mindset they will never find out why they really lost as they already know based on their own prejudices.
Trump lies, he’s not alone as a politician in that.
If I give you this doll, can you show us where Centrist Dad hurt you?
The first politician I encountered who lied in this way to this extent was literally a centrist. And yes, it's perfectly understandable that people who are struggling, or who have lost status, will give people who promise to make things better a hearing.
The blame lies 100% with the shysters who make contradictory promises that they can never possibly deliver. Who pretend that it can all be made better and the only people who will lose are an undefined other who nobody likes anyway.
And whilst it would be lovely to think that such people can be beaten by their opponents doing things better, the historical record of that is that it often doesn't work.
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
Thing is, you get people who sneer at Easter, or play it down, reducing it to one of many in a free market of religions of that - and dismissing the Christian roots of the country - and then you see precisely why Trump gets so many votes.
Reading the mad and vindictive tripe spouted by Trump in the post quoted above, I genuinely don't see why Trump gets so many votes. I've lived long enough in the real world to know that this lack of understanding isn't due to a moral failing on my part.
Not surprised Casino is a Trump lover
Just seen this. I can't let that pass.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
Trump's political psychological success is dismally easy to explain.
He's a liar.
That means that he can tell everyone things that the want to be true, even when they're contradictory or just plain rubbish. It's why he can say, and demand that others say, that he didn't lose in 2020.
And when someone is willing and able to lie utterly blatantly, it's blooming hard to defeat them in argument. They will always go further than you are prepared to go.
(And to make this non-partisan, my first political campaigning experience was against a small town Liberal who had that talent in spades.)
Concluding anything else from his electoral success is just wishful thinking by thoughtful commentators. Which is one of the reasons Trump's lies work.
Is the reason he lost in 2020 that he had second thoughts and cooled it a bit with the lies?
Inevitable we will have to choose sides. That means join the EU who will make a pragmatic decision which I suspect will tilt towards China. Who would attach their wagon to a rabid horse?
Good luck with the German and French car industry still existing in a 10 years if they do that. BYD will eat their lunch.
Any suggestions for an electric car? Small but comfortable but not a Tesla. Someone said a BMW 3I but they dont make them anymore.
A bit of fun runabout?
As you like things French - Renault are probably the most serious EV manufacturer in Europe now. The new Renault 5 gets rave reviews. Tight for space in the back though.
I noted Rachel from accounts interview on this topic. The UK is going to fold and list the slave labour using Shein on the FTSE aren't we, and doesn't sound like she is bothered by Chinese EVs flooding the UK market (despite what the security services say).
Slavery and torture are okay, provided they get outsourced, in the eyes of a lot of Western politicians.
The “Libyan Coastguard” is funded (in part) by European nations. They capture migrants - often in international waters, which is illegal. And imprison them as above.
For extra LOLs, they take their captives to local markets to sell their labour. Yes, straight up slavery.
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
Thing is, you get people who sneer at Easter, or play it down, reducing it to one of many in a free market of religions of that - and dismissing the Christian roots of the country - and then you see precisely why Trump gets so many votes.
Reading the mad and vindictive tripe spouted by Trump in the post quoted above, I genuinely don't see why Trump gets so many votes. I've lived long enough in the real world to know that this lack of understanding isn't due to a moral failing on my part.
Not surprised Casino is a Trump lover
Just seen this. I can't let that pass.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
Trump's political psychological success is dismally easy to explain.
He's a liar.
That means that he can tell everyone things that the want to be true, even when they're contradictory or just plain rubbish. It's why he can say, and demand that others say, that he didn't lose in 2020.
And when someone is willing and able to lie utterly blatantly, it's blooming hard to defeat them in argument. They will always go further than you are prepared to go.
(And to make this non-partisan, my first political campaigning experience was against a small town Liberal who had that talent in spades.)
Concluding anything else from his electoral success is just wishful thinking by thoughtful commentators. Which is one of the reasons Trump's lies work.
Yes, he lies, but this is an entirely inadequate answer.
It’s usual centrist Dad fodder. Copium. The voters are wrong. They vote against their own interests. The voters were deluded/fell for lies. With that mindset they will never find out why they really lost as they already know based on their own prejudices.
Trump lies, he’s not alone as a politician in that.
If I give you this doll, can you show us where Centrist Dad hurt you?
The first politician I encountered who lied in this way to this extent was literally a centrist. And yes, it's perfectly understandable that people who are struggling, or who have lost status, will give people who promise to make things better a hearing.
The blame lies 100% with the shysters who make contradictory promises that they can never possibly deliver. Who pretend that it can all be made better and the only people who will lose are an undefined other who nobody likes anyway.
And whilst it would be lovely to think that such people can be beaten by their opponents doing things better, the historical record of that is that it often doesn't work.
Consider “triangulation” - it’s where a politician promises things he/she can’t deliver. To multiple groups.
- look at me, I’m really liberal on immigration. - look at me, I’m really tough on immigration. Only the Blob/EU/liberal elite/ECHR/Lizard men ruled that my policy was illegal.
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Not a service but we lit candles and said prayers.
Then, we had a carvery - not in the church, I hasten to add.
VW Audi tech is so shit they have had to buy Rivian and software / AI is a big weakness in Germany.
The challenge as always is cost. Not production cost as such. The big Germans have been charging a lot for indifferent quality for a while, living on their reputation more than their build quality.
So they will keep charging €€€ for a car that someone else will charge € for
The Jubilee 2000 Movement was a key player in leading to the cancellation of £100 billion of international debt around the year 2000. That lead to the cancellation of ~2/3 of the international debt of the poorest 35 countries - freeing up resources for development.
That started in the churches, based on the Jubilee concept.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_2000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV1-xoDKlpw
https://www.youtube.com/@InsideChinaAuto
There is certainly a lot of "experimentation" and they throw all sorts of things at it resulting in some odd cars, but the higher end ones have everything a European car has plus loads more.
I depise Trump. Hate him. I think he's malignant and would never vote for him in a million years. As I think you know, because we've discussed it before.
You need to distinguish between those who recognise, or are trying to recognise, why he might have mass appeal - and the political psychology behind that - and those who actively support and cheer him because they are two very distinct and different things.
Understanding why is key to stopping him and his brand of politics and, if you simply label anyone who does of being a "Trump lover", you will simply just get more and more of him. Forevermore.
Easter is a national holiday. By law. It's part of the sociocultural fabric of the country. Part of the national calendar.
They should just say Happy Easter, and leave the religious celebration bit unsaid. This is exactly what I do at work and in my OOO messages. To do otherwise risks it being seen as a niche religious festival that's just one of many with no special status in a free market of religious ideas. It's hyperlib stuff.
No-one says, "Merry Christmas.. to those who celebrate..!" outside a weird progressive minority.
The interior trim fit and finish looks exceptional. Far better than what Land Rover were doing.
End of the year parking space to parking space drive technology coming !! Wow.
From what I see and hear though many Chinese cars have great features in isolation but struggle to make them work cohesively when other features are poor.
Whilst that gives an advantage to European manufacturers now, it won’t last. China will catch up rapidly as it already has on things like battery tech and motor efficiency.
Chinese manufacturers need western brand names though. Some of the ones coming to Uk shores are absurd.
And if the Democratic party don't work out very quickly why he wins votes and defeat him then we are all doomed.
Perhaps if Nissan weren’t so conservative with their design and product innovation they may stand a chance.
I’m afraid the European car industry will go the same way as the U.K. one. Terminal decline with factories ending up being owned by large overseas manufacturers. I’m glad I don’t work in it anymore.
GSTQ
That's important as it illustrates that growth is in diverse places - St Helens being a church which aiui opted out of Women Priests 3 decades ago, and has maintained the stance. They now also have quite a history of starting new churches iirc.
I've always been interested in St Helens as Rev Dick Lucas (Vicar 1961-1998, and still alive at 99) was an early pioneer in engagement of Christian faith with the corporate world, business ethics etc. When I first went to a service there in I think 1997-8 (but could be early 1990s *) the attendance was of the order of 800-1000 each week. St Helens was his creation in the same way that All Souls was the creation of John Stott.
It's worth noting that large gather CofE churches in London are more like Roman Catholic parishes in having most of their congregation commuting to church. Most CofE parishes are not like that.
* St Helens had a very major Quinlain Terry renovation in 1992-3 at the instigation of the IRA, which doubled the seating capacity to ~1000.
I hope I've got that badly wrong. But occasionally I pop up and ask a liberal American and I always get the same tired old clichéd answers we've all heard before.
The PBers who are fans of the PRC are a very small set.
Who knows. She might have had cancer and we'll only find out about it in 30 years time.
https://x.com/vaticannews/status/1914226689065865254?s=61
Sky and Reuters got that out straight away.
Still nowhere to be seen on BBC news website.
Taz beat me to it.
NEW THREAD
How much inflation would there be if no-one lent money for gain? If it was usurers who created and continue to recreate the overall environment, then "I had to charge interest because otherwise my huge pile of money would fall in value" might not be enough to beat the rap.
But I'm not the judge. God will know his own.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05n1vnnyrvo
We are heading the same way with an increasing population of morons who can only understand pictures and believe any old shit.
A bit of fun runabout?
I'm much calmer. You can become well informed without touching much if any of that.
One part of the increase in Church attendances yesterday may be down to the Orthodox Easter being on the same date as the Western this year (it isn't always).
Our local Church has evangelical groups and Christian services conducted in Tamil as well as the main Anglican service so there was a steady flow of traffic yesterday.
To be fair, we have lots of faith(s) in East Ham - the mosques and other prayer places are busy on Fridays and you see the older more devout Muslims making the trek to the mosque at all hours. We have a local Sikh temple in the High Street as well which provides food (not quite a carvery in the Church but still).
Our neighbours are Catholics so go to their Church every Sunday.
I wouldn't say we were an agnostic or atheist nation at all and I don't know if the rise in attendance at Christian Churches is being matched at the places of worship of other faiths.
As to why, in general, more people are turning toward religion I think we can all suggest the obvious reasons. Many religions do contain within them some very strong positive messages about individual morality and social cohesion (not all and there are many other less amenable messages to be blunt) so that in itself may be a cause for optimism but I have found professing a faith and living to the tenets of that faith aren't always one and the same thing.
He's a liar.
That means that he can tell everyone things that the want to be true, even when they're contradictory or just plain rubbish. It's why he can say, and demand that others say, that he didn't lose in 2020.
And when someone is willing and able to lie utterly blatantly, it's blooming hard to defeat them in argument. They will always go further than you are prepared to go.
(And to make this non-partisan, my first political campaigning experience was against a small town Liberal who had that talent in spades.)
Concluding anything else from his electoral success is just wishful thinking by thoughtful commentators. Which is one of the reasons Trump's lies work.
https://x.com/TheStalwart/status/1914124511886053674
~80% of the electors were picked by Francis, so hopefully someone will take over who can keep up the good work, but I fear it could go rightwards.
This is the bulleted list. I would add things such as current high-tensions causing anxiety, the Dawkins new atheism balloon having deflated, and local Councils withdrawing many non-statutory social services so churches are one of the set of groups still out there doing the work and providing the services. There was a not dissimilar trend in the late 1970s / early 1980s, with some similarities - anxiety caused by Mrs Thatcher's policies, 3 million unemployed etc.
- This shift is attributed to several factors, including a change in the perception of Christianity, a search for belonging, and the potential benefits for mental well-being.
- Young Christians cite a sense of community, personal connection with God, and hope as key aspects of their faith.
- The report also notes higher life satisfaction and lower stress levels among churchgoers compared to non-churchgoers.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20215234/
https://x.com/andrewdoyle_com/status/1914006533626605587
Where are the stand up comics of her genius today?
Trump lies, he’s not alone as a politician in that.
Amen
The first politician I encountered who lied in this way to this extent was literally a centrist. And yes, it's perfectly understandable that people who are struggling, or who have lost status, will give people who promise to make things better a hearing.
The blame lies 100% with the shysters who make contradictory promises that they can never possibly deliver. Who pretend that it can all be made better and the only people who will lose are an undefined other who nobody likes anyway.
And whilst it would be lovely to think that such people can be beaten by their opponents doing things better, the historical record of that is that it often doesn't work.
The “Libyan Coastguard” is funded (in part) by European nations. They capture migrants - often in international waters, which is illegal. And imprison them as above.
For extra LOLs, they take their captives to local markets to sell their labour. Yes, straight up slavery.
- look at me, I’m really liberal on immigration.
- look at me, I’m really tough on immigration. Only the Blob/EU/liberal elite/ECHR/Lizard men ruled that my policy was illegal.