Taking advice from Liz Truss on dealing with the mythic "Blob" is only useful if you do the opposite.
It's a bit like how Labour decided to take advice from John Ashworth on campaigning. A man who lost one of Labour's safest seats during a Labour landslide, and then found his office a bit useless.
She will be advising him to do the opposite. Liz Truss didn't deal with the blob - she sacked one or two key underperformers which resulted in ear splitting squealing in the media (and on PB). NF will be laying waste to the Blob from day 1 and rightly so.
We’ve seen now what an anti-Blob approach is like from Trump and the Republicans: global economic crash, rising government debt, break down of the rule of law, mass corruption. We absolutely do not want that, be it delivered by Farage or Truss.
Exactly as @leon said. It’s like the PM of Pakistan addressing Muslims on an Islamic holiday as he were talking to tourists visiting for the weekend
How? It is clearly a sincere celebration of the holiday from an excellent PM. Your shoehorning of some casual dog-whistle Islamophobia in there tells one all we need to know about your motivations here.
As for @leon - even a Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist thinks he’s a loser. Safely ignored.
Edit: sorry - he never won the Nobel Prize. Point stands though.
Stephen Hawking: Don't worry, I know how you feel. I have never won a Nobel Prize. Penny: Oh, wow, that doesn't seem fair. Stephen Hawking: It's fine. I've been on The Simpsons.
Even Modi managed a better more sincere Easter message than Starmer
“Wishing everyone a blessed and joyous Easter. This Easter is special because world over, the Jubilee Year is being observed with immense fervour. May this sacred occasion inspire hope, renewal and compassion in every person. May there be joy and harmony all around.”
The jubilee year only applies to the Catholic church so that would have been a pretty stupid thing for Starmer to have mentioned.
Er, there are quite a lot of catholics in the UK. And we were once a catholic country. Indeed the whole point of Anglicanism is that in some ways we still are - it is a quintessentially English compromise between Catholicism and full Reformation
Indeed, a third of the congregation of the rural churches we attend is Roman Catholic as there are no RC churches in the area, the nearest are in Harlow and Epping.
Our village and hamlet churches are medieval and of course were Catholic pre Reformation anyway
Quite. The original remark was simply ignorant
Starmer's remark felt like a dig, and so it was bad messaging.
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
You heathen. Nothing better than a toasted hot cross bun slathered in butter. Im so glad i dont recall the days they were a seasonal item.
You don't need the hocus-pocus in order to take on board the political and social message of Jesus.
Completely overlooking the fact that many abhor the political and social message of Jesus and want to have only the hocus-pocus combined with the elements of Paul and Leviticus they want without being bothered by such pesky things as his social messages.
The Jewish vote is of course now even more Conservative than the Anglican vote and has been since Corbyn became Labour leader, the Roman Catholic vote swings both ways, it went Labour in 2017, Conservative in 2019 and Labour again in 2024.
The atheist and even more so the Muslim vote solidly Labour and the Hindu and Sikh vote leans Labour but has become more Conservative, indeed it was one of the few groups Rishi got a swing with last year for obvious reasons.
The LDs also do OK with Anglicans and Methodists, Reform with cultural Christians but less regular churchgoers and the SNP with Church of Scotland
Even Modi managed a better more sincere Easter message than Starmer
“Wishing everyone a blessed and joyous Easter. This Easter is special because world over, the Jubilee Year is being observed with immense fervour. May this sacred occasion inspire hope, renewal and compassion in every person. May there be joy and harmony all around.”
The jubilee year only applies to the Catholic church so that would have been a pretty stupid thing for Starmer to have mentioned.
Er, there are quite a lot of catholics in the UK. And we were once a catholic country. Indeed the whole point of Anglicanism is that in some ways we still are - it is a quintessentially English compromise between Catholicism and full Reformation
Indeed, a third of the congregation of the rural churches we attend is Roman Catholic as there are no RC churches in the area, the nearest are in Harlow and Epping.
Our village and hamlet churches are medieval and of course were Catholic pre Reformation anyway
Quite. The original remark was simply ignorant
Starmer's remark felt like a dig, and so it was bad messaging.
It felt like a dig to you, but you think white people will soon be fleeing to white supremacist towns in Eastern Europe, so maybe you’re just a bit touchy.
Taking advice from Liz Truss on dealing with the mythic "Blob" is only useful if you do the opposite.
It's a bit like how Labour decided to take advice from John Ashworth on campaigning. A man who lost one of Labour's safest seats during a Labour landslide, and then found his office a bit useless.
She will be advising him to do the opposite. Liz Truss didn't deal with the blob - she sacked one or two key underperformers which resulted in ear splitting squealing in the media (and on PB). NF will be laying waste to the Blob from day 1 and rightly so.
We’ve seen now what an anti-Blob approach is like from Trump and the Republicans: global economic crash, rising government debt, break down of the rule of law, mass corruption. We absolutely do not want that, be it delivered by Farage or Truss.
It should be possible to adjust the balance of the game without flipping over the board entirely.
Unfortunately the biggest proponents of change are usually of the flip variety.
Even Modi managed a better more sincere Easter message than Starmer
“Wishing everyone a blessed and joyous Easter. This Easter is special because world over, the Jubilee Year is being observed with immense fervour. May this sacred occasion inspire hope, renewal and compassion in every person. May there be joy and harmony all around.”
The jubilee year only applies to the Catholic church so that would have been a pretty stupid thing for Starmer to have mentioned.
Er, there are quite a lot of catholics in the UK. And we were once a catholic country. Indeed the whole point of Anglicanism is that in some ways we still are - it is a quintessentially English compromise between Catholicism and full Reformation
Indeed, a third of the congregation of the rural churches we attend is Roman Catholic as there are no RC churches in the area, the nearest are in Harlow and Epping.
Our village and hamlet churches are medieval and of course were Catholic pre Reformation anyway
Quite. The original remark was simply ignorant
Starmer's remark felt like a dig, and so it was bad messaging.
It felt like a dig to you, but you think white people will soon be fleeing to white supremacist towns in Eastern Europe, so maybe you’re just a bit touchy.
Non muslims rather than "white people", but you get the drift
It wouldn't matter if everyone in that video was all white (and in a Church at Easter Sunday I'd expect the congregation to be disproportionately white naturally anyway) but I count 2 non-white children and 1 non-white adult in that video.
Still, its not all-white, and I imagine that percentage varies from Church to Church.
Unsurprisingly yes the more rural the church the more white the congregation and the more urban the church the more non white it is with suburban and commuter belt town churches in between
Yeah, I'm with isam and leon here. Weird message by SKS, although that does appear to be the least of his problems rn.
"contribution Christians have made to this country"? Just weird.
"Thank you Sir Christopher Wren for the contribution you made to St Pauls Cathedral"
lol. Yes. That’s exactly it. Just weird - and betraying some uglier sentiments or peculiar stupidity within
Just waiting for "H'actually, Wren only drew some of the original sketches, and it was Arabs from 17th Century Morocco that did most of the donkey work"
An increasingly common view on social media. The uk is in deep shit. It’s not just the levels of immigration and boat people - it’s more that people DEEPLY resent paying ever higher taxes to keep these incomes comfortable even as the country gets visibly poorer, dirtier and nastier
“No gang, we need to stay in the UK and pay 30-50% of our lifetime earnings to subsidise other people’s lives
And then spend another 25-50% of what we have left paying a mortgage for the next 30 years
Just so the government can take 50% of that off your kids when you die
There’s nothing more enjoyable than turning 65 and knowing you were a net contributor to other people at the expense of your own quality of life
But sure, you’re a bad person for wanting to move to a 0% tax country”
We’re in a doom loop. Who is going to wrench us out of it? Certainly not Labour
The sun is shining, I've been working in the garden, off to a BBQ today, have taken the Cobra to the pub, bought a new BBQ, off to Southwold next week and a birthday party. Looking forward to trips to Sorrento, Cordoba and the Canal di Midi in the next few months, lots of LD activities.
Life's good. Don't be such a misery. You have a very lucky life. Enjoy your good fortune. Your could have been born somewhere else in the world and be a lot less fortunate.
Life satisfaction in the UK is a about 75%. The happiest bits are Northern Ireland and the north of England.
In international comparison, it's only really the Nordics which do better than us. Our biggest weakness is poor health.
Slightly grey this morning on the Isle of Wight but clearing later for the family Easter Egg hunt and roast lamb.
The hellhole on Social Media bears no resemblance to reality. An American told me yesterday that praying was now illegal in England. People believe this bonkers shit rather than the evidence of their own eyes.
Trumpvangelicals are bonkers and their heads are filled with shit.
The American weird view of the U.K. started long ago. When Cameron was PM, the New York Times decided that since his economic policies, post 2008 diverged from Obama, they were an attack on the US president.
The bizarre articles that resulted had my American relatives puzzled when they visited. They were expecting something like Sarajevo during the siege.
Another entertaining one was the apparent interviews with people on the street in the UK (again in the New York Times). Using American idiom and sporting similes. Because Londoners frequently use baseball metaphors to express political opinions….
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
You heathen. Nothing better than a toasted hot cross bun slathered in butter. Im so glad i dont recall the days they were a seasonal item.
Hot cross buns are beaut - but must be eaten HOT and with that melting butter. Oooh
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
You heathen. Nothing better than a toasted hot cross bun slathered in butter. Im so glad i dont recall the days they were a seasonal item.
Somehow they never quite live up to the TV ad hype for me. I think I'm just cynical.
Exactly as @leon said. It’s like the PM of Pakistan addressing Muslims on an Islamic holiday as he were talking to tourists visiting for the weekend
How? It is clearly a sincere celebration of the holiday from an excellent PM. Your shoehorning of some casual dog-whistle Islamophobia in there tells one all we need to know about your motivations here.
As for @leon - even a Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist thinks he’s a loser. Safely ignored.
Edit: sorry - he never won the Nobel Prize. Point stands though.
Stephen Hawking: Don't worry, I know how you feel. I have never won a Nobel Prize. Penny: Oh, wow, that doesn't seem fair. Stephen Hawking: It's fine. I've been on The Simpsons.
Exactly as @leon said. It’s like the PM of Pakistan addressing Muslims on an Islamic holiday as he were talking to tourists visiting for the weekend
How? It is clearly a sincere celebration of the holiday from an excellent PM. Your shoehorning of some casual dog-whistle Islamophobia in there tells one all we need to know about your motivations here.
As for @leon - even a Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist thinks he’s a loser. Safely ignored.
Edit: sorry - he never won the Nobel Prize. Point stands though.
I’ve been dissed by a near Nobel prize winner or are you having another spazzout?!
Despite his undoubted intelligence, Hawking was modest about his gifts. When asked in a 2004 interview with The New York Times what his IQ is, Hawking gave a curt reply: "I have no idea. People who boast about their IQ are losers."
I met Hawking about a decade ago, not long before his death. It was a very surreal experience because he was exactly as you would expect him to be, in the way some celebs and some famous landmarks are - hyperreal.
And the accent, if that’s what you could call the computer generated voice, was instantly recognisable as his.
What I’d not really appreciated but seems patently obvious in hindsight is how slow a conversation with him would be. I only asked one question. Each sentence took a good 5 minutes to construct.
I unicycled past him once, but didn’t stop to chat.
“No photo op. No public blessing. Just a cold shoulder—and a firm reminder from the Vatican about who the Catholic Church stands with.” - I love this for him
Pope Ghosts JD Vance at Vatican, Sends Top Cardinal to Lecture VP on Compassion
Vance is of course on the conservative, pro Latin Mass wing of the Roman Catholic church which preferred the late Pope Benedict to the more liberal Pope Francis
Yeah, I'm with isam and leon here. Weird message by SKS, although that does appear to be the least of his problems rn.
"contribution Christians have made to this country"? Just weird.
What on Earth is weird or wrong about that? Even as an atheist I'd acknowledge that Christian have made contributions to this country and Easter is a polite day to recognise that.
Christians, like Jews, Pagans, atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and more have throughout history made contributions to this country.
The only reason I could see anyone could object is if someone was stupid enough to think Christians haven't contributed, or stupid enough to think they're the only ones who have. Which is it?
Have to admit I'm not feeling the outrage on the Starmer Easter tweet, possibly as I too am an athiest.
To access the required outrage you need to hold the view that our white Christian heritage is being eroded by incomers and that this is both a sad thing and a bad thing.
"We're losing our country. We want it back."
This sentiment (along with "it's all fucked, let's try something new") lies at the heart of Reform's appeal.
Also not going to church while bemoaning its demise very much part of the package.
If you’re referring to me, in part, then I go to church all the time. I do it at home and on my travels - last time I was in church was about a week ago - when I went into the famous “wooden cathedral” in Almaty
I usually cross myself and often light a candle and say a little prayer
About five or six times a year I attend an actual service. The most memorable of my recent services was taking communion in the shrine of the archangel Michael in Mont Sant’Angelo on the Gargano peninsula in Italy last autumn
Amazing place
I’ve noticed the frequency of my service-attending has edged up over the years. Age? Maybe
I still wouldn’t categorise myself as a churchgoing Christian but I definitely go to churches and not just as a tourist or writer
Not everything is about you!
I had a pee in St John's in Valletta (in the unisex toilets in case anyone was worrying about a blasphemous act), does that count?
I congratulate you on combining two topics du jour - gendering of toilets and performative Christianity - in one short post.
Labour cannot keep playing reform lite. Reformers will never vote for them anyway and their core voters are abandoning them at break neck pace. As usual labour it making nobody happy. They must get the pro european and moderate centrists back onside and have compassionate social policies or it is going to be game over for this government.
I voted labour last. But I just can't vote for this nonsense.
I wonder how the pro Palestinian anti Biden voters feel now.
Sometimes we simply have to vote against a worse party. We should consider it a luxury if we can vote for the party we like the most.
As any Unionist in Scotland can tell you.
Vote for losers and subjugation every time, will unionists ever grow a spine and be able to stand up.
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
You heathen. Nothing better than a toasted hot cross bun slathered in butter. Im so glad i dont recall the days they were a seasonal item.
Hot cross buns are beaut - but must be eaten HOT and with that melting butter. Oooh
My dad revealed recently he has only ever eaten them untoasted. Im not sure we'll speak again.
I have discovered a grave lack in the global lexicon
Bishkek is one of those places where in Late April it’s boiling hot in the sun and you want to be in shorts, but as soon as you step into shade it’s cold and you need a thick coat
Why?
It is a result of low humidity + high solar angle + thin mountain air:
• The sun is strong, especially at altitude (Bishkek’s ~800m), so it heats the skin directly
• But the air temperature remains low - so as soon as you’re out of the direct sun, you feel the actual chill
• No ambient heat is held in the air the way it is in more humid or maritime places.
There is no word for this in English. What’s more, there is no word for it in any language that I can find:
In German, they sometimes call this “Schattenkälte” – “shade-cold” – the sudden chill of stepping out of the sun.
In Japanese, there’s hinata-bokko (日向ぼっこ), which refers to the joy of basking in the sun on a cold day
But even these words don’t describe the overall feeling and scenario. To lexical arms, citoyens!
If there is a word in some language I’d be grateful to learn it from any knowledgeable PBer
FFS you could be describing Scotland there, words are it is F***ing Baltic
“No photo op. No public blessing. Just a cold shoulder—and a firm reminder from the Vatican about who the Catholic Church stands with.” - I love this for him
Pope Ghosts JD Vance at Vatican, Sends Top Cardinal to Lecture VP on Compassion
Vance is of course on the conservative, pro Latin Mass wing of the Roman Catholic church which preferred the late Pope Benedict to the more liberal Pope Francis
I sense those lads would be better pleased if young Benedict had chosen to join the Hitlerjugend rather than been conscripted.
Exactly as @leon said. It’s like the PM of Pakistan addressing Muslims on an Islamic holiday as he were talking to tourists visiting for the weekend
How? It is clearly a sincere celebration of the holiday from an excellent PM. Your shoehorning of some casual dog-whistle Islamophobia in there tells one all we need to know about your motivations here.
As for @leon - even a Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist thinks he’s a loser. Safely ignored.
Edit: sorry - he never won the Nobel Prize. Point stands though.
Islamophobia! How boring
My motivation was that it seemed an strange way to address a country that until very recently considered itself Christian, and only doesn't now because of a mass immigration of non Christians that the Christians neither asked for or like much.
That UK now only has a minority of Christians isn’t due to immigration, but to the UK-born population turning away from Christianity (and other religions).
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
You heathen. Nothing better than a toasted hot cross bun slathered in butter. Im so glad i dont recall the days they were a seasonal item.
Hot cross buns are beaut - but must be eaten HOT and with that melting butter. Oooh
And strawberry jam. As I had them for breakfast today!
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
You heathen. Nothing better than a toasted hot cross bun slathered in butter. Im so glad i dont recall the days they were a seasonal item.
Hot cross buns are beaut - but must be eaten HOT and with that melting butter. Oooh
Hot cross buns have been poncified so you now have to choose between 57 different varieties, from cinnamon to caramel through apple and all points in between. Here is part of Sainsbury's selection:-
Exactly as @leon said. It’s like the PM of Pakistan addressing Muslims on an Islamic holiday as he were talking to tourists visiting for the weekend
How? It is clearly a sincere celebration of the holiday from an excellent PM. Your shoehorning of some casual dog-whistle Islamophobia in there tells one all we need to know about your motivations here.
As for @leon - even a Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist thinks he’s a loser. Safely ignored.
Edit: sorry - he never won the Nobel Prize. Point stands though.
I’ve been dissed by a near Nobel prize winner or are you having another spazzout?!
Despite his undoubted intelligence, Hawking was modest about his gifts. When asked in a 2004 interview with The New York Times what his IQ is, Hawking gave a curt reply: "I have no idea. People who boast about their IQ are losers."
I met Hawking about a decade ago, not long before his death. It was a very surreal experience because he was exactly as you would expect him to be, in the way some celebs and some famous landmarks are - hyperreal.
And the accent, if that’s what you could call the computer generated voice, was instantly recognisable as his.
What I’d not really appreciated but seems patently obvious in hindsight is how slow a conversation with him would be. I only asked one question. Each sentence took a good 5 minutes to construct.
Eddie Redmayne was on Graham Norton and recalled the meeting he had with him before playing Hawking in a film. In filmed interviews Hawking gets the questions beforehand so he’s prepared his answers so it sounds like a conversation. In real life as you observe he has to prepare each response letter by letter so it’s a painstaking and time consuming with long gaps between questions and answers. Feeling awkward about the long gaps Redmayne started burbling remaking that they both had the same star sign. Hawking replied “I’m an astronomer, not an astrologer!”
I have discovered a grave lack in the global lexicon
Bishkek is one of those places where in Late April it’s boiling hot in the sun and you want to be in shorts, but as soon as you step into shade it’s cold and you need a thick coat
Why?
It is a result of low humidity + high solar angle + thin mountain air:
• The sun is strong, especially at altitude (Bishkek’s ~800m), so it heats the skin directly
• But the air temperature remains low - so as soon as you’re out of the direct sun, you feel the actual chill
• No ambient heat is held in the air the way it is in more humid or maritime places.
There is no word for this in English. What’s more, there is no word for it in any language that I can find:
In German, they sometimes call this “Schattenkälte” – “shade-cold” – the sudden chill of stepping out of the sun.
In Japanese, there’s hinata-bokko (日向ぼっこ), which refers to the joy of basking in the sun on a cold day
But even these words don’t describe the overall feeling and scenario. To lexical arms, citoyens!
If there is a word in some language I’d be grateful to learn it from any knowledgeable PBer
I don't know of a word for it, but there should be because this is a common skiing experience. On a clear day, high up, you can sunbath in a T shirt on a deckchair drinking your hot chocolate (some people do so with those silly reflector things around their necks) and as you are aware you need very strong sun screen and really good glasses (mine are ones that can be changed from clear to dark to amber [for low light]). However if you get in the shade you need the full gear to keep warm.
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
You heathen. Nothing better than a toasted hot cross bun slathered in butter. Im so glad i dont recall the days they were a seasonal item.
Hot cross buns are beaut - but must be eaten HOT and with that melting butter. Oooh
Hot cross buns have been poncified so you now have to choose between 57 different varieties, from cinnamon to caramel through apple and all points in between. Here is part of Sainsbury's selection:-
Apple & Cinnamon Hot Cross Buns
Chocolate & Salted Caramel Hot Cross Buns
Cinnamon & Brown Sugar Hot Cross Buns
Coffee & Chocolate Chip Hot Cross Buns
Fruity Hot Cross Buns
Lemon & White Chocolate Hot Cross Buns
Orange Marmalade Hot Cross Buns
Triple Berry Hot Cross Buns
I like variety but it is ridiculous. Basic or just extra fruity has not been bettered.
An increasingly common view on social media. The uk is in deep shit. It’s not just the levels of immigration and boat people - it’s more that people DEEPLY resent paying ever higher taxes to keep these incomes comfortable even as the country gets visibly poorer, dirtier and nastier
“No gang, we need to stay in the UK and pay 30-50% of our lifetime earnings to subsidise other people’s lives
And then spend another 25-50% of what we have left paying a mortgage for the next 30 years
Just so the government can take 50% of that off your kids when you die
There’s nothing more enjoyable than turning 65 and knowing you were a net contributor to other people at the expense of your own quality of life
But sure, you’re a bad person for wanting to move to a 0% tax country”
We’re in a doom loop. Who is going to wrench us out of it? Certainly not Labour
The sun is shining, I've been working in the garden, off to a BBQ today, have taken the Cobra to the pub, bought a new BBQ, off to Southwold next week and a birthday party. Looking forward to trips to Sorrento, Cordoba and the Canal di Midi in the next few months, lots of LD activities.
Life's good. Don't be such a misery. You have a very lucky life. Enjoy your good fortune. Your could have been born somewhere else in the world and be a lot less fortunate.
Life satisfaction in the UK is a about 75%. The happiest bits are Northern Ireland and the north of England.
In international comparison, it's only really the Nordics which do better than us. Our biggest weakness is poor health.
Slightly grey this morning on the Isle of Wight but clearing later for the family Easter Egg hunt and roast lamb.
The hellhole on Social Media bears no resemblance to reality. An American told me yesterday that praying was now illegal in England. People believe this bonkers shit rather than the evidence of their own eyes.
Trumpvangelicals are bonkers and their heads are filled with shit.
The American weird view of the U.K. started long ago. When Cameron was PM, the New York Times decided that since his economic policies, post 2008 diverged from Obama, they were an attack on the US president.
The bizarre articles that resulted had my American relatives puzzled when they visited. They were expecting something like Sarajevo during the siege.
Another entertaining one was the apparent interviews with people on the street in the UK (again in the New York Times). Using American idiom and sporting similes. Because Londoners frequently use baseball metaphors to express political opinions….
Who can forget the NYT’s hot Brexit takes we were discussing “down at the creek”.
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
You heathen. Nothing better than a toasted hot cross bun slathered in butter. Im so glad i dont recall the days they were a seasonal item.
Hot cross buns are beaut - but must be eaten HOT and with that melting butter. Oooh
Hot cross buns have been poncified so you now have to choose between 57 different varieties, from cinnamon to caramel through apple and all points in between. Here is part of Sainsbury's selection:-
Apple & Cinnamon Hot Cross Buns
Chocolate & Salted Caramel Hot Cross Buns
Cinnamon & Brown Sugar Hot Cross Buns
Coffee & Chocolate Chip Hot Cross Buns
Fruity Hot Cross Buns
Lemon & White Chocolate Hot Cross Buns
Orange Marmalade Hot Cross Buns
Triple Berry Hot Cross Buns
Mum bought the Fruity ones and the Orange Marmalade ones. I prefer the fruity ones
Exactly as @leon said. It’s like the PM of Pakistan addressing Muslims on an Islamic holiday as he were talking to tourists visiting for the weekend
How? It is clearly a sincere celebration of the holiday from an excellent PM. Your shoehorning of some casual dog-whistle Islamophobia in there tells one all we need to know about your motivations here.
As for @leon - even a Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist thinks he’s a loser. Safely ignored.
Edit: sorry - he never won the Nobel Prize. Point stands though.
Islamophobia! How boring
My motivation was that it seemed an strange way to address a country that until very recently considered itself Christian, and only doesn't now because of a mass immigration of non Christians that the Christians neither asked for or like much.
I'd argue the decrease in Christianity is much more to do with the rise of Atheism/Agnosticism among the home grown population than mass immigration, especially since quite a lot of recent immigrants are if anything *more* Christian.
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
You heathen. Nothing better than a toasted hot cross bun slathered in butter. Im so glad i dont recall the days they were a seasonal item.
Hot cross buns are beaut - but must be eaten HOT and with that melting butter. Oooh
Hot cross buns have been poncified so you now have to choose between 57 different varieties, from cinnamon to caramel through apple and all points in between. Here is part of Sainsbury's selection:-
Apple & Cinnamon Hot Cross Buns
Chocolate & Salted Caramel Hot Cross Buns
Cinnamon & Brown Sugar Hot Cross Buns
Coffee & Chocolate Chip Hot Cross Buns
Fruity Hot Cross Buns
Lemon & White Chocolate Hot Cross Buns
Orange Marmalade Hot Cross Buns
Triple Berry Hot Cross Buns
Even hot cross buns are woke now, country is really F***ed up
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
You heathen. Nothing better than a toasted hot cross bun slathered in butter. Im so glad i dont recall the days they were a seasonal item.
Hot cross buns are beaut - but must be eaten HOT and with that melting butter. Oooh
Hot cross buns have been poncified so you now have to choose between 57 different varieties, from cinnamon to caramel through apple and all points in between. Here is part of Sainsbury's selection:-
Apple & Cinnamon Hot Cross Buns
Chocolate & Salted Caramel Hot Cross Buns
Cinnamon & Brown Sugar Hot Cross Buns
Coffee & Chocolate Chip Hot Cross Buns
Fruity Hot Cross Buns
Lemon & White Chocolate Hot Cross Buns
Orange Marmalade Hot Cross Buns
Triple Berry Hot Cross Buns
I like variety but it is ridiculous. Basic or just extra fruity has not been bettered.
My daughter hates raisins so won't eat basic ones. She will eat the apple & cinnamon.
An increasingly common view on social media. The uk is in deep shit. It’s not just the levels of immigration and boat people - it’s more that people DEEPLY resent paying ever higher taxes to keep these incomes comfortable even as the country gets visibly poorer, dirtier and nastier
“No gang, we need to stay in the UK and pay 30-50% of our lifetime earnings to subsidise other people’s lives
And then spend another 25-50% of what we have left paying a mortgage for the next 30 years
Just so the government can take 50% of that off your kids when you die
There’s nothing more enjoyable than turning 65 and knowing you were a net contributor to other people at the expense of your own quality of life
But sure, you’re a bad person for wanting to move to a 0% tax country”
We’re in a doom loop. Who is going to wrench us out of it? Certainly not Labour
The sun is shining, I've been working in the garden, off to a BBQ today, have taken the Cobra to the pub, bought a new BBQ, off to Southwold next week and a birthday party. Looking forward to trips to Sorrento, Cordoba and the Canal di Midi in the next few months, lots of LD activities.
Life's good. Don't be such a misery. You have a very lucky life. Enjoy your good fortune. Your could have been born somewhere else in the world and be a lot less fortunate.
Life satisfaction in the UK is a about 75%. The happiest bits are Northern Ireland and the north of England.
In international comparison, it's only really the Nordics which do better than us. Our biggest weakness is poor health.
Slightly grey this morning on the Isle of Wight but clearing later for the family Easter Egg hunt and roast lamb.
The hellhole on Social Media bears no resemblance to reality. An American told me yesterday that praying was now illegal in England. People believe this bonkers shit rather than the evidence of their own eyes.
Trumpvangelicals are bonkers and their heads are filled with shit.
The American weird view of the U.K. started long ago. When Cameron was PM, the New York Times decided that since his economic policies, post 2008 diverged from Obama, they were an attack on the US president.
The bizarre articles that resulted had my American relatives puzzled when they visited. They were expecting something like Sarajevo during the siege.
Another entertaining one was the apparent interviews with people on the street in the UK (again in the New York Times). Using American idiom and sporting similes. Because Londoners frequently use baseball metaphors to express political opinions….
Britain might be a damn sight better off if we'd followed the American path to expansion rather than Plan A austerity.
I have discovered a grave lack in the global lexicon
Bishkek is one of those places where in Late April it’s boiling hot in the sun and you want to be in shorts, but as soon as you step into shade it’s cold and you need a thick coat
Why?
It is a result of low humidity + high solar angle + thin mountain air:
• The sun is strong, especially at altitude (Bishkek’s ~800m), so it heats the skin directly
• But the air temperature remains low - so as soon as you’re out of the direct sun, you feel the actual chill
• No ambient heat is held in the air the way it is in more humid or maritime places.
There is no word for this in English. What’s more, there is no word for it in any language that I can find:
In German, they sometimes call this “Schattenkälte” – “shade-cold” – the sudden chill of stepping out of the sun.
In Japanese, there’s hinata-bokko (日向ぼっこ), which refers to the joy of basking in the sun on a cold day
But even these words don’t describe the overall feeling and scenario. To lexical arms, citoyens!
If there is a word in some language I’d be grateful to learn it from any knowledgeable PBer
I don't know of a word for it, but there should be because this is a common skiing experience. On a clear day, high up, you can sunbath in a T shirt on a deckchair drinking your hot chocolate (some people do so with those silly reflector things around their necks) and as you are aware you need very strong sun screen and really good glasses (mine are ones that can be changed from clear to dark to amber [for low light]). However if you get in the shade you need the full gear to keep warm.
Yes it’s common in higher altitude. Odd that there is no word - in any language that I can find
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
You heathen. Nothing better than a toasted hot cross bun slathered in butter. Im so glad i dont recall the days they were a seasonal item.
Hot cross buns are beaut - but must be eaten HOT and with that melting butter. Oooh
Hot cross buns have been poncified so you now have to choose between 57 different varieties, from cinnamon to caramel through apple and all points in between. Here is part of Sainsbury's selection:-
Apple & Cinnamon Hot Cross Buns
Chocolate & Salted Caramel Hot Cross Buns
Cinnamon & Brown Sugar Hot Cross Buns
Coffee & Chocolate Chip Hot Cross Buns
Fruity Hot Cross Buns
Lemon & White Chocolate Hot Cross Buns
Orange Marmalade Hot Cross Buns
Triple Berry Hot Cross Buns
Even hot cross buns are woke now, country is really F***ed up
Absolutely! Our national treats used to be cautiously flavourful. Bread with a few currents in it or a hotdog bun with a bit of icing on top. We used to leave it to the Americans to do ludicrously sweet and gooey treats.
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
Make a diary appointment to remind yourself next year. Some from local bakers are pretty good. I've also enjoyed simnel cake with my coffee this Eastertide, heathen though I might be,
“No photo op. No public blessing. Just a cold shoulder—and a firm reminder from the Vatican about who the Catholic Church stands with.” - I love this for him
Pope Ghosts JD Vance at Vatican, Sends Top Cardinal to Lecture VP on Compassion
Vance is of course on the conservative, pro Latin Mass wing of the Roman Catholic church which preferred the late Pope Benedict to the more liberal Pope Francis
An increasingly common view on social media. The uk is in deep shit. It’s not just the levels of immigration and boat people - it’s more that people DEEPLY resent paying ever higher taxes to keep these incomes comfortable even as the country gets visibly poorer, dirtier and nastier
“No gang, we need to stay in the UK and pay 30-50% of our lifetime earnings to subsidise other people’s lives
And then spend another 25-50% of what we have left paying a mortgage for the next 30 years
Just so the government can take 50% of that off your kids when you die
There’s nothing more enjoyable than turning 65 and knowing you were a net contributor to other people at the expense of your own quality of life
But sure, you’re a bad person for wanting to move to a 0% tax country”
We’re in a doom loop. Who is going to wrench us out of it? Certainly not Labour
The sun is shining, I've been working in the garden, off to a BBQ today, have taken the Cobra to the pub, bought a new BBQ, off to Southwold next week and a birthday party. Looking forward to trips to Sorrento, Cordoba and the Canal di Midi in the next few months, lots of LD activities.
Life's good. Don't be such a misery. You have a very lucky life. Enjoy your good fortune. Your could have been born somewhere else in the world and be a lot less fortunate.
Life satisfaction in the UK is a about 75%. The happiest bits are Northern Ireland and the north of England.
In international comparison, it's only really the Nordics which do better than us. Our biggest weakness is poor health.
Slightly grey this morning on the Isle of Wight but clearing later for the family Easter Egg hunt and roast lamb.
The hellhole on Social Media bears no resemblance to reality. An American told me yesterday that praying was now illegal in England. People believe this bonkers shit rather than the evidence of their own eyes.
Trumpvangelicals are bonkers and their heads are filled with shit.
The American weird view of the U.K. started long ago. When Cameron was PM, the New York Times decided that since his economic policies, post 2008 diverged from Obama, they were an attack on the US president.
The bizarre articles that resulted had my American relatives puzzled when they visited. They were expecting something like Sarajevo during the siege.
Another entertaining one was the apparent interviews with people on the street in the UK (again in the New York Times). Using American idiom and sporting similes. Because Londoners frequently use baseball metaphors to express political opinions….
Who can forget the NYT’s hot Brexit takes we were discussing “down at the creek”.
Whereas now they have twice elected Trump president who the NYT despise while we have ex Remoaner and woke Starmer as PM.
Ten years ago Osborne was given a standing ovation at Republican dinners in the US in the Romney and Tea party era which he wouldn't get now with Trump
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
You heathen. Nothing better than a toasted hot cross bun slathered in butter. Im so glad i dont recall the days they were a seasonal item.
Hot cross buns are beaut - but must be eaten HOT and with that melting butter. Oooh
Hot cross buns have been poncified so you now have to choose between 57 different varieties, from cinnamon to caramel through apple and all points in between. Here is part of Sainsbury's selection:-
Apple & Cinnamon Hot Cross Buns
Chocolate & Salted Caramel Hot Cross Buns
Cinnamon & Brown Sugar Hot Cross Buns
Coffee & Chocolate Chip Hot Cross Buns
Fruity Hot Cross Buns
Lemon & White Chocolate Hot Cross Buns
Orange Marmalade Hot Cross Buns
Triple Berry Hot Cross Buns
Even hot cross buns are woke now, country is really F***ed up
Absolutely! Our national treats used to be cautiously flavourful. Bread with a few currents in it or a hotdog bun with a bit of icing on top. We used to leave it to the Americans to do ludicrously sweet and gooey treats.
For a 2nd Big Bang quote in the thread:
Sheldon: Yuck! English pudding! You get yourself all excited for pudding, and here comes a cake with raisins in it.
Since my daughter hates raisins and my wife dislikes them, I'm quite glad we get a variety of choice now. Even though I do like raisins personally.
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
I can't get enough of them. Especially those from M&S - gooey and delicious. Happily, they are available all year round.
Yeah, I'm with isam and leon here. Weird message by SKS, although that does appear to be the least of his problems rn.
"contribution Christians have made to this country"? Just weird.
What on Earth is weird or wrong about that? Even as an atheist I'd acknowledge that Christian have made contributions to this country and Easter is a polite day to recognise that.
Christians, like Jews, Pagans, atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and more have throughout history made contributions to this country.
The only reason I could see anyone could object is if someone was stupid enough to think Christians haven't contributed, or stupid enough to think they're the only ones who have. Which is it?
It's that we are a Christian country and the massage was phrased as though Christians were, as isam noted, visitors who made a plucky contribution to the country.
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
You heathen. Nothing better than a toasted hot cross bun slathered in butter. Im so glad i dont recall the days they were a seasonal item.
Hot cross buns are beaut - but must be eaten HOT and with that melting butter. Oooh
Hot cross buns have been poncified so you now have to choose between 57 different varieties, from cinnamon to caramel through apple and all points in between. Here is part of Sainsbury's selection:-
Apple & Cinnamon Hot Cross Buns
Chocolate & Salted Caramel Hot Cross Buns
Cinnamon & Brown Sugar Hot Cross Buns
Coffee & Chocolate Chip Hot Cross Buns
Fruity Hot Cross Buns
Lemon & White Chocolate Hot Cross Buns
Orange Marmalade Hot Cross Buns
Triple Berry Hot Cross Buns
Even hot cross buns are woke now, country is really F***ed up
Absolutely! Our national treats used to be cautiously flavourful. Bread with a few currents in it or a hotdog bun with a bit of icing on top. We used to leave it to the Americans to do ludicrously sweet and gooey treats.
Is it too PB pedantic to point out that hot cross buns are only supposed to be consumed on Good Friday?
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
I can't get enough of them. Especially those from M&S - gooey and delicious. Happily, they are available all year round.
By the way, Leon, thanks for recommending the Ritter chocolate yesterday, just had some and it's quite nice.
Please don't; you'll only encourage him.
I want to encourage discussions like the one on dark chocolate yesterday. It enables us to see each other as real people while we bash each other with heavy politics. Talking of that, is this thing about a new colour complete bollocks? If it's not I would be fascinated to learn more.
By using a laser to stimulate very specific parts of the retina, they have induced a new visual sensation in the small number of volunteers in the study. If you think of colour as a perception, then one can say they have created a new colour. If you think of colour as a thing in the external world, then you might not consider it a new colour.
Colour is perception, light is just a mix of wavelengths.
Any animal with colour perception has a more than one type of coloured sensing cells in its visual system. The number varies; humans have three types (some shrimps have five times that - and do perceive a far larger number of 'colours')
In humans, the sensitivity of the three types of cells to wavelengths of light overlaps. So when you perceive a colour, it's the result of signals from a mix of types of cells.
What the experiment did was to very precisely (using laser pulses) stimulate only one type of cell. So the subjects 'saw' a colour signal they could never experience in nature.
It's almost as if the world we perceive isn't solid and real.
That's quite true. Our perceptions are only an approximation of the reality around us. The way we perceive time is odder still.
I recall an earnest discussion back in grammar school (therefore an extremely long time ago) about whether anyone could actually discern indigo and whether it was really just the same as violet. Were we hung up on the idea of seven spectral colours because it seemed to be the 'right' number, divinely ordained? Is there any anthropological research into how other cultures perceive colours? For example, the word 'glas' in Welsh seems to mean either blue or green (or turquoise or teal) according to taste:
Dunno about "we". The idea of seven colours in the spectrum doesn't predate Newton - at least not exoterically. There's a correspondence with musical notes and planets and stuff. There's no indigo in the spectrum. A hue of pure blue looks darker than many might imagine, because of how our eyes work.
In Russian there is no single word for blue. There's one for dark blue and one for light blue. The latter is also used to mean gay.
Yeah, I'm with isam and leon here. Weird message by SKS, although that does appear to be the least of his problems rn.
"contribution Christians have made to this country"? Just weird.
What on Earth is weird or wrong about that? Even as an atheist I'd acknowledge that Christian have made contributions to this country and Easter is a polite day to recognise that.
Christians, like Jews, Pagans, atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and more have throughout history made contributions to this country.
The only reason I could see anyone could object is if someone was stupid enough to think Christians haven't contributed, or stupid enough to think they're the only ones who have. Which is it?
It's that we are a Christian country and the massage was phrased as though Christians were, as isam noted, visitors who made a plucky contribution to the country.
We are not a Christian country, we are a diverse one in which Christians are one minority amongst many, with an established Church.
Exactly as @leon said. It’s like the PM of Pakistan addressing Muslims on an Islamic holiday as he were talking to tourists visiting for the weekend
How? It is clearly a sincere celebration of the holiday from an excellent PM. Your shoehorning of some casual dog-whistle Islamophobia in there tells one all we need to know about your motivations here.
As for @leon - even a Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist thinks he’s a loser. Safely ignored.
Edit: sorry - he never won the Nobel Prize. Point stands though.
Islamophobia! How boring
My motivation was that it seemed an strange way to address a country that until very recently considered itself Christian, and only doesn't now because of a mass immigration of non Christians that the Christians neither asked for or like much.
I'd argue the decrease in Christianity is much more to do with the rise of Atheism/Agnosticism among the home grown population than mass immigration, especially since quite a lot of recent immigrants are if anything *more* Christian.
That is a fair point, but if there had been no immigration of non Christians, and England were simply Christian or Atheist as a result of declining belief in God, I don't think politicians such as Starmer would be so mealy mouthed
By the way, Leon, thanks for recommending the Ritter chocolate yesterday, just had some and it's quite nice.
Please don't; you'll only encourage him.
I want to encourage discussions like the one on dark chocolate yesterday. It enables us to see each other as real people while we bash each other with heavy politics. Talking of that, is this thing about a new colour complete bollocks? If it's not I would be fascinated to learn more.
By using a laser to stimulate very specific parts of the retina, they have induced a new visual sensation in the small number of volunteers in the study. If you think of colour as a perception, then one can say they have created a new colour. If you think of colour as a thing in the external world, then you might not consider it a new colour.
Colour is perception, light is just a mix of wavelengths.
Any animal with colour perception has a more than one type of coloured sensing cells in its visual system. The number varies; humans have three types (some shrimps have five times that - and do perceive a far larger number of 'colours')
In humans, the sensitivity of the three types of cells to wavelengths of light overlaps. So when you perceive a colour, it's the result of signals from a mix of types of cells.
What the experiment did was to very precisely (using laser pulses) stimulate only one type of cell. So the subjects 'saw' a colour signal they could never experience in nature.
It's almost as if the world we perceive isn't solid and real.
That's quite true. Our perceptions are only an approximation of the reality around us. The way we perceive time is odder still.
I recall an earnest discussion back in grammar school (therefore an extremely long time ago) about whether anyone could actually discern indigo and whether it was really just the same as violet. Were we hung up on the idea of seven spectral colours because it seemed to be the 'right' number, divinely ordained? Is there any anthropological research into how other cultures perceive colours? For example, the word 'glas' in Welsh seems to mean either blue or green (or turquoise or teal) according to taste:
Dunno about "we". The idea of seven colours in the spectrum doesn't predate Newton - at least not exoterically. There's a correspondence with musical notes and planets and stuff. There's no indigo in the spectrum. A hue of pure blue looks darker than many might imagine, because of how our eyes work.
In Russian there is no single word for blue. There's one for dark blue and one for light blue. The latter is also used to mean gay.
Many rainbows nowadays omit indigo and violet and include purple instead.
Exactly as @leon said. It’s like the PM of Pakistan addressing Muslims on an Islamic holiday as he were talking to tourists visiting for the weekend
How? It is clearly a sincere celebration of the holiday from an excellent PM. Your shoehorning of some casual dog-whistle Islamophobia in there tells one all we need to know about your motivations here.
As for @leon - even a Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist thinks he’s a loser. Safely ignored.
Edit: sorry - he never won the Nobel Prize. Point stands though.
Islamophobia! How boring
My motivation was that it seemed an strange way to address a country that until very recently considered itself Christian, and only doesn't now because of a mass immigration of non Christians that the Christians neither asked for or like much.
I'd argue the decrease in Christianity is much more to do with the rise of Atheism/Agnosticism among the home grown population than mass immigration, especially since quite a lot of recent immigrants are if anything *more* Christian.
That is a fair point, but if there had been no immigration of non Christians, and England were simply Christian or Atheist as a result of declining belief in God, I don't think politicians such as Starmer would be so mealy mouthed
Why?
He's one of those atheists himself.
If he started preaching as if he were a Christian himself those criticising him today would be criticising him for being inauthentic and disingenuous.
What he said was polite and reasonable, unless you are looking to take offence.
Yeah, I'm with isam and leon here. Weird message by SKS, although that does appear to be the least of his problems rn.
"contribution Christians have made to this country"? Just weird.
What on Earth is weird or wrong about that? Even as an atheist I'd acknowledge that Christian have made contributions to this country and Easter is a polite day to recognise that.
Christians, like Jews, Pagans, atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and more have throughout history made contributions to this country.
The only reason I could see anyone could object is if someone was stupid enough to think Christians haven't contributed, or stupid enough to think they're the only ones who have. Which is it?
It's that we are a Christian country and the massage was phrased as though Christians were, as isam noted, visitors who made a plucky contribution to the country.
We are not a Christian country, we are a diverse one in which Christians are one minority amongst many, with an established Church.
Formally we are a Christian country although of course there are many faiths and people of no faith (bonjour).
Exactly as @leon said. It’s like the PM of Pakistan addressing Muslims on an Islamic holiday as he were talking to tourists visiting for the weekend
How? It is clearly a sincere celebration of the holiday from an excellent PM. Your shoehorning of some casual dog-whistle Islamophobia in there tells one all we need to know about your motivations here.
As for @leon - even a Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist thinks he’s a loser. Safely ignored.
Edit: sorry - he never won the Nobel Prize. Point stands though.
Islamophobia! How boring
My motivation was that it seemed an strange way to address a country that until very recently considered itself Christian, and only doesn't now because of a mass immigration of non Christians that the Christians neither asked for or like much.
I'd argue the decrease in Christianity is much more to do with the rise of Atheism/Agnosticism among the home grown population than mass immigration, especially since quite a lot of recent immigrants are if anything *more* Christian.
That is a fair point, but if there had been no immigration of non Christians, and England were simply Christian or Atheist as a result of declining belief in God, I don't think politicians such as Starmer would be so mealy mouthed
Why?
He's one of those atheists himself.
If he started preaching as if he were a Christian himself those criticising him today would be criticising him for being inauthentic and disingenuous.
What he said was polite and reasonable, unless you are looking to take offence.
I wasn't looking to take offence, and didn't find it polite or reasonable. So where does that leave us?
Loveliest of trees, the cherry now Is hung with bloom along the bough, And stands about the woodland ride Wearing white for Eastertide.
Now, of my threescore years and ten, Twenty will not come again, And take from seventy springs a score, It only leaves me fifty more.
And since to look at things in bloom Fifty springs are little room, About the woodlands I will go To see the cherry hung with snow….
And that’s why I’m in Kyrgyzstan
Alternatively, I could go to Myrekirk Road, which is within walking distance of my house and which, for approximately a fortnight each year, starting last week, is simply magnificent. Vivid pink blossoms in that case.
I have discovered a grave lack in the global lexicon
Bishkek is one of those places where in Late April it’s boiling hot in the sun and you want to be in shorts, but as soon as you step into shade it’s cold and you need a thick coat
Why?
It is a result of low humidity + high solar angle + thin mountain air:
• The sun is strong, especially at altitude (Bishkek’s ~800m), so it heats the skin directly
• But the air temperature remains low - so as soon as you’re out of the direct sun, you feel the actual chill
• No ambient heat is held in the air the way it is in more humid or maritime places.
There is no word for this in English. What’s more, there is no word for it in any language that I can find:
In German, they sometimes call this “Schattenkälte” – “shade-cold” – the sudden chill of stepping out of the sun.
In Japanese, there’s hinata-bokko (日向ぼっこ), which refers to the joy of basking in the sun on a cold day
But even these words don’t describe the overall feeling and scenario. To lexical arms, citoyens!
If there is a word in some language I’d be grateful to learn it from any knowledgeable PBer
Yeah, I'm with isam and leon here. Weird message by SKS, although that does appear to be the least of his problems rn.
"contribution Christians have made to this country"? Just weird.
What on Earth is weird or wrong about that? Even as an atheist I'd acknowledge that Christian have made contributions to this country and Easter is a polite day to recognise that.
Christians, like Jews, Pagans, atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and more have throughout history made contributions to this country.
The only reason I could see anyone could object is if someone was stupid enough to think Christians haven't contributed, or stupid enough to think they're the only ones who have. Which is it?
It's that we are a Christian country and the massage was phrased as though Christians were, as isam noted, visitors who made a plucky contribution to the country.
We are not a Christian country, we are a diverse one in which Christians are one minority amongst many, with an established Church.
Formally we are a Christian country although of course there are many faiths and people of no faith (bonjour).
Formally we have an established Church. That is all.
We are a diverse country. There is no requirement for citizens of this country to be members of the established Church and never has been.
Exactly as @leon said. It’s like the PM of Pakistan addressing Muslims on an Islamic holiday as he were talking to tourists visiting for the weekend
How? It is clearly a sincere celebration of the holiday from an excellent PM. Your shoehorning of some casual dog-whistle Islamophobia in there tells one all we need to know about your motivations here.
As for @leon - even a Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist thinks he’s a loser. Safely ignored.
Edit: sorry - he never won the Nobel Prize. Point stands though.
Islamophobia! How boring
My motivation was that it seemed an strange way to address a country that until very recently considered itself Christian, and only doesn't now because of a mass immigration of non Christians that the Christians neither asked for or like much.
I'd argue the decrease in Christianity is much more to do with the rise of Atheism/Agnosticism among the home grown population than mass immigration, especially since quite a lot of recent immigrants are if anything *more* Christian.
That is a fair point, but if there had been no immigration of non Christians, and England were simply Christian or Atheist as a result of declining belief in God, I don't think politicians such as Starmer would be so mealy mouthed
Why?
He's one of those atheists himself.
If he started preaching as if he were a Christian himself those criticising him today would be criticising him for being inauthentic and disingenuous.
What he said was polite and reasonable, unless you are looking to take offence.
I wasn't looking to take offence, and didn't find it polite or reasonable. So where does that leave us?
That you were looking to take offence, even if it were subconscious.
What was impolite or unreasonable about it precisely?
“No photo op. No public blessing. Just a cold shoulder—and a firm reminder from the Vatican about who the Catholic Church stands with.” - I love this for him
Pope Ghosts JD Vance at Vatican, Sends Top Cardinal to Lecture VP on Compassion
Vance is of course on the conservative, pro Latin Mass wing of the Roman Catholic church which preferred the late Pope Benedict to the more liberal Pope Francis
Surely the whole point of believing is that you don’t get a preference. The pope is selected by cardinals guided by god so if you express a preference then that is blasphemy. Christians really do have a habit of picking and choosing
Exactly as @leon said. It’s like the PM of Pakistan addressing Muslims on an Islamic holiday as he were talking to tourists visiting for the weekend
How? It is clearly a sincere celebration of the holiday from an excellent PM. Your shoehorning of some casual dog-whistle Islamophobia in there tells one all we need to know about your motivations here.
As for @leon - even a Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist thinks he’s a loser. Safely ignored.
Edit: sorry - he never won the Nobel Prize. Point stands though.
Islamophobia! How boring
My motivation was that it seemed an strange way to address a country that until very recently considered itself Christian, and only doesn't now because of a mass immigration of non Christians that the Christians neither asked for or like much.
I'd argue the decrease in Christianity is much more to do with the rise of Atheism/Agnosticism among the home grown population than mass immigration, especially since quite a lot of recent immigrants are if anything *more* Christian.
That is a fair point, but if there had been no immigration of non Christians, and England were simply Christian or Atheist as a result of declining belief in God, I don't think politicians such as Starmer would be so mealy mouthed
Why?
He's one of those atheists himself.
If he started preaching as if he were a Christian himself those criticising him today would be criticising him for being inauthentic and disingenuous.
What he said was polite and reasonable, unless you are looking to take offence.
I wasn't looking to take offence, and didn't find it polite or reasonable. So where does that leave us?
That you were looking to take offence, even if it were subconscious.
What was impolite or unreasonable about it precisely?
But I have just told you that I wasn't looking to take offence, and I am not lying.
I have already said more than once what I thought was odd about Starmer's choice of words. We don't need to carry it on. Stop clucking for a row
Yeah, I'm with isam and leon here. Weird message by SKS, although that does appear to be the least of his problems rn.
"contribution Christians have made to this country"? Just weird.
What on Earth is weird or wrong about that? Even as an atheist I'd acknowledge that Christian have made contributions to this country and Easter is a polite day to recognise that.
Christians, like Jews, Pagans, atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and more have throughout history made contributions to this country.
The only reason I could see anyone could object is if someone was stupid enough to think Christians haven't contributed, or stupid enough to think they're the only ones who have. Which is it?
It's that we are a Christian country and the massage was phrased as though Christians were, as isam noted, visitors who made a plucky contribution to the country.
We are not a Christian country, we are a diverse one in which Christians are one minority amongst many, with an established Church.
Formally we are a Christian country although of course there are many faiths and people of no faith (bonjour).
Formally we have an established Church. That is all.
We are a diverse country. There is no requirement for citizens of this country to be members of the established Church and never has been.
"At the institutional level, the Anglican Church maintains its status of religion of the state and the King is still Head of the Church: hence by law, England is still a Christian country, which entails some specific privileges for the Church of England that are not extended to other religions."
So you know, legally and all, we are a Christian country.
“No photo op. No public blessing. Just a cold shoulder—and a firm reminder from the Vatican about who the Catholic Church stands with.” - I love this for him
Pope Ghosts JD Vance at Vatican, Sends Top Cardinal to Lecture VP on Compassion
Vance is of course on the conservative, pro Latin Mass wing of the Roman Catholic church which preferred the late Pope Benedict to the more liberal Pope Francis
Surely the whole point of believing is that you don’t get a preference. The pope is selected by cardinals guided by god so if you express a preference then that is blasphemy. Christians really do have a habit of picking and choosing
I believe Benedict was unavailable when Francis became pope. Preferring the actions of different popes seems reasonable.
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
You heathen. Nothing better than a toasted hot cross bun slathered in butter. Im so glad i dont recall the days they were a seasonal item.
Hot cross buns are beaut - but must be eaten HOT and with that melting butter. Oooh
Hot cross buns have been poncified so you now have to choose between 57 different varieties, from cinnamon to caramel through apple and all points in between. Here is part of Sainsbury's selection:-
Apple & Cinnamon Hot Cross Buns
Chocolate & Salted Caramel Hot Cross Buns
Cinnamon & Brown Sugar Hot Cross Buns
Coffee & Chocolate Chip Hot Cross Buns
Fruity Hot Cross Buns
Lemon & White Chocolate Hot Cross Buns
Orange Marmalade Hot Cross Buns
Triple Berry Hot Cross Buns
Even hot cross buns are woke now, country is really F***ed up
Absolutely! Our national treats used to be cautiously flavourful. Bread with a few currents in it or a hotdog bun with a bit of icing on top. We used to leave it to the Americans to do ludicrously sweet and gooey treats.
Is it too PB pedantic to point out that hot cross buns are only supposed to be consumed on Good Friday?
Unless you are a Tudor or a Stuart, that's simply wrong. And even then, the prohibition wasn't quite so tightly drawn.
...In 1592, during the reign of Elizabeth I of England, the London Clerk of Markets issued a decree forbidding the sale of spiced buns and other spiced breads, except at burials, on Good Friday, or at Christmas. The punishment for transgressing the decree was forfeiture of all the forbidden product to the poor. As a result, hot cross buns at the time were primarily made in domestic kitchens.
Further attempts to suppress the sale of these items outside of these holy days took place during the reign of James I of England (1603–1625)...
Exactly as @leon said. It’s like the PM of Pakistan addressing Muslims on an Islamic holiday as he were talking to tourists visiting for the weekend
How? It is clearly a sincere celebration of the holiday from an excellent PM. Your shoehorning of some casual dog-whistle Islamophobia in there tells one all we need to know about your motivations here.
As for @leon - even a Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist thinks he’s a loser. Safely ignored.
Edit: sorry - he never won the Nobel Prize. Point stands though.
Islamophobia! How boring
My motivation was that it seemed an strange way to address a country that until very recently considered itself Christian, and only doesn't now because of a mass immigration of non Christians that the Christians neither asked for or like much.
I'd argue the decrease in Christianity is much more to do with the rise of Atheism/Agnosticism among the home grown population than mass immigration, especially since quite a lot of recent immigrants are if anything *more* Christian.
That is a fair point, but if there had been no immigration of non Christians, and England were simply Christian or Atheist as a result of declining belief in God, I don't think politicians such as Starmer would be so mealy mouthed
Why?
He's one of those atheists himself.
If he started preaching as if he were a Christian himself those criticising him today would be criticising him for being inauthentic and disingenuous.
What he said was polite and reasonable, unless you are looking to take offence.
I wasn't looking to take offence, and didn't find it polite or reasonable. So where does that leave us?
That you were looking to take offence, even if it were subconscious.
What was impolite or unreasonable about it precisely?
But I have just told you that I wasn't looking to take offence, and I am not lying.
I have already said more than once what i thought was odd about Starmer's choice of words. We don't need to carry it on. Stop clucking for a row
I didn't accuse you of lying, I said it was subconscious.
There was literally nothing impolite or untrue or odd about it.
Christians have made a contribution to this country. As historically and presently too have Jews, Pagans, atheists, agnostics, Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs and more.
Nothing remotely odd about recognising Christians on Easter. It's polite.
Unless for some bizarre and ignorant reason you think Christians have made no contributions to this country? Or some equally bizarre and ignorant reason you think only Christians have?
Exactly as @leon said. It’s like the PM of Pakistan addressing Muslims on an Islamic holiday as he were talking to tourists visiting for the weekend
How? It is clearly a sincere celebration of the holiday from an excellent PM. Your shoehorning of some casual dog-whistle Islamophobia in there tells one all we need to know about your motivations here.
As for @leon - even a Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist thinks he’s a loser. Safely ignored.
Edit: sorry - he never won the Nobel Prize. Point stands though.
Islamophobia! How boring
My motivation was that it seemed an strange way to address a country that until very recently considered itself Christian, and only doesn't now because of a mass immigration of non Christians that the Christians neither asked for or like much.
I'd argue the decrease in Christianity is much more to do with the rise of Atheism/Agnosticism among the home grown population than mass immigration, especially since quite a lot of recent immigrants are if anything *more* Christian.
That is a fair point, but if there had been no immigration of non Christians, and England were simply Christian or Atheist as a result of declining belief in God, I don't think politicians such as Starmer would be so mealy mouthed
Why?
He's one of those atheists himself.
If he started preaching as if he were a Christian himself those criticising him today would be criticising him for being inauthentic and disingenuous.
What he said was polite and reasonable, unless you are looking to take offence.
I wasn't looking to take offence, and didn't find it polite or reasonable. So where does that leave us?
That you were looking to take offence, even if it were subconscious.
What was impolite or unreasonable about it precisely?
But I have just told you that I wasn't looking to take offence, and I am not lying.
I have already said more than once what i thought was odd about Starmer's choice of words. We don't need to carry it on. Stop clucking for a row
I didn't accuse you of lying, I said it was subconscious.
There was literally nothing impolite or untrue or odd about it.
Christians have made a contribution to this country. As historically and presently too have Jews, Pagans, atheists, agnostics, Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs and more.
Nothing remotely odd about recognising Christians on Easter. It's polite.
Unless for some bizarre and ignorant reason you think Christians have made no contributions to this country? Or some equally bizarre and ignorant reason you think only Christians have?
Yeah, I'm with isam and leon here. Weird message by SKS, although that does appear to be the least of his problems rn.
"contribution Christians have made to this country"? Just weird.
What on Earth is weird or wrong about that? Even as an atheist I'd acknowledge that Christian have made contributions to this country and Easter is a polite day to recognise that.
Christians, like Jews, Pagans, atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and more have throughout history made contributions to this country.
The only reason I could see anyone could object is if someone was stupid enough to think Christians haven't contributed, or stupid enough to think they're the only ones who have. Which is it?
It's that we are a Christian country and the massage was phrased as though Christians were, as isam noted, visitors who made a plucky contribution to the country.
We are not a Christian country, we are a diverse one in which Christians are one minority amongst many, with an established Church.
Formally we are a Christian country although of course there are many faiths and people of no faith (bonjour).
Formally we have an established Church. That is all.
We are a diverse country. There is no requirement for citizens of this country to be members of the established Church and never has been.
"At the institutional level, the Anglican Church maintains its status of religion of the state and the King is still Head of the Church: hence by law, England is still a Christian country, which entails some specific privileges for the Church of England that are not extended to other religions."
So you know, legally and all, we are a Christian country.
Where is that quote from? Odd to put in a quote and no source.
Legally we have an established Church, I said that. That doesn't mean that legally we are a Christian country. Especially when Christians make up a minority of the population.
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
You heathen. Nothing better than a toasted hot cross bun slathered in butter. Im so glad i dont recall the days they were a seasonal item.
Hot cross buns are beaut - but must be eaten HOT and with that melting butter. Oooh
Hot cross buns have been poncified so you now have to choose between 57 different varieties, from cinnamon to caramel through apple and all points in between. Here is part of Sainsbury's selection:-
Apple & Cinnamon Hot Cross Buns
Chocolate & Salted Caramel Hot Cross Buns
Cinnamon & Brown Sugar Hot Cross Buns
Coffee & Chocolate Chip Hot Cross Buns
Fruity Hot Cross Buns
Lemon & White Chocolate Hot Cross Buns
Orange Marmalade Hot Cross Buns
Triple Berry Hot Cross Buns
Even hot cross buns are woke now, country is really F***ed up
Absolutely! Our national treats used to be cautiously flavourful. Bread with a few currents in it or a hotdog bun with a bit of icing on top. We used to leave it to the Americans to do ludicrously sweet and gooey treats.
Is it too PB pedantic to point out that hot cross buns are only supposed to be consumed on Good Friday?
God's a bit of a funny fish. One minute creating universes, the next getting pissed off because someone with infinitessimally less power than him/her/it had a particular type of bun a couple of days late.
I wasn't looking to take offence, and didn't find it polite or reasonable. So where does that leave us?
I have just told you that I wasn't looking to take offence, and I am not lying.
Why do you want to carry it on so much, when you must surely know that I am not going to give an inch?
Because I find it strange and am browsing PB killing time while my sushi rice cooks, and not much else is being discussed. If you could name literally a single thing impolite or unreasonable about it, I'd drop it.
My house has a tradition that as a family we make sushi on Easter Sunday.
I wasn't looking to take offence, and didn't find it polite or reasonable. So where does that leave us?
I have just told you that I wasn't looking to take offence, and I am not lying.
Why do you want to carry it on so much, when you must surely know that I am not going to give an inch?
Because I find it strange and am browsing PB killing time while my sushi rice cooks, and not much else is being discussed. If you could name literally a single thing impolite or unreasonable about it, I'd drop it.
My house has a tradition that as a family we make sushi on Easter Sunday.
I wasn't looking to take offence, and didn't find it polite or reasonable. So where does that leave us?
I have just told you that I wasn't looking to take offence, and I am not lying.
Why do you want to carry it on so much, when you must surely know that I am not going to give an inch?
Because I find it strange and am browsing PB killing time while my sushi rice cooks, and not much else is being discussed. If you could name literally a single thing impolite or unreasonable about it, I'd drop it.
My house has a tradition that as a family we make sushi on Easter Sunday.
Just drop it anyway
I'll take that as an implicit acceptance you can't name anything impolite or unreasonable about it.
It's a beautiful sunny spring day, the Magnolia and Cherry trees of Oxford are gloriously bedecked with fragrant blossom, God is in his heaven, and assorted PB rightists are gravely offended by the PM wishing people happy Easter.
Loveliest of trees, the cherry now Is hung with bloom along the bough, And stands about the woodland ride Wearing white for Eastertide.
Now, of my threescore years and ten, Twenty will not come again, And take from seventy springs a score, It only leaves me fifty more.
And since to look at things in bloom Fifty springs are little room, About the woodlands I will go To see the cherry hung with snow….
And that’s why I’m in Kyrgyzstan
Alternatively, I could go to Myrekirk Road, which is within walking distance of my house and which, for approximately a fortnight each year, starting last week, is simply magnificent. Vivid pink blossoms in that case.
Can’t be arsed going all the way to Helensburgh (besides I wouldn’t get this drone’s eye view) but this is pretty good. I’d like to think the colour hasn’t been enhanced..
It's a beautiful sunny spring day, the Magnolia and Cherry trees of Oxford are gloriously bedecked with fragrant blossom, God is in his heaven, and assorted PB rightists are gravely offended by the PM wishing people happy Easter.
The truly glorious few days are when the bluebells are in full flower, just as the cherries bloom.
It's a beautiful sunny spring day, the Magnolia and Cherry trees of Oxford are gloriously bedecked with fragrant blossom, God is in his heaven, and assorted PB rightists are gravely offended by the PM wishing people happy Easter.
Magnolias are all gone here. Good year for them, though. The one in five years they don't get frosted and go brown.
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
I wasn't looking to take offence, and didn't find it polite or reasonable. So where does that leave us?
I have just told you that I wasn't looking to take offence, and I am not lying.
Why do you want to carry it on so much, when you must surely know that I am not going to give an inch?
Because I find it strange and am browsing PB killing time while my sushi rice cooks, and not much else is being discussed. If you could name literally a single thing impolite or unreasonable about it, I'd drop it.
My house has a tradition that as a family we make sushi on Easter Sunday.
Just drop it anyway
I'll take that as an implicit acceptance you can't name anything impolite or unreasonable about it.
Thank you.
Honestly, are you that pathetic?
I said an hour or so ago that we should drop it because we wont agree, and it could drag on for weeks, I then told you I wasn't looking for offence and did find it impolite and unreasonable, then confirmed that I wasn't lying when you wouldn't believe me, whilst repeatedly asking you to drop it, and yet you won't just leave it.
Do you need to feel like you won so much that I should pretend that you have caught me out so that you feel good about yourself? You are a grown man I believe, so try and accept that you are being told to go away
Every Easter I get faked out by TV ads that make hot cross buns look absolutely delicious, buy a pack in anticipation, have a couple and then go "meh". And every year I forget that happened last year.
You heathen. Nothing better than a toasted hot cross bun slathered in butter. Im so glad i dont recall the days they were a seasonal item.
Hot cross buns are beaut - but must be eaten HOT and with that melting butter. Oooh
Hot cross buns have been poncified so you now have to choose between 57 different varieties, from cinnamon to caramel through apple and all points in between. Here is part of Sainsbury's selection:-
Apple & Cinnamon Hot Cross Buns
Chocolate & Salted Caramel Hot Cross Buns
Cinnamon & Brown Sugar Hot Cross Buns
Coffee & Chocolate Chip Hot Cross Buns
Fruity Hot Cross Buns
Lemon & White Chocolate Hot Cross Buns
Orange Marmalade Hot Cross Buns
Triple Berry Hot Cross Buns
Even hot cross buns are woke now, country is really F***ed up
Absolutely! Our national treats used to be cautiously flavourful. Bread with a few currents in it or a hotdog bun with a bit of icing on top. We used to leave it to the Americans to do ludicrously sweet and gooey treats.
Is it too PB pedantic to point out that hot cross buns are only supposed to be consumed on Good Friday?
God's a bit of a funny fish. One minute creating universes, the next getting pissed off because someone with infinitessimally less power than him/her/it had a particular type of bun a couple of days late.
One of these days I'll write a memoir entitled A Child's Easter in Wales. On Good Friday, nothing moved. The playground gates were locked and the swings were double-locked to the post in case someone had the wherewithal to climb in. Pubs were shut (or, rather, they kept Sunday hours, which was the same thing). People in the street would avert their eyes, silently dwelling on the horrors of Golgotha as if it were a personal affront.
Then, suddenly, out of the blue, a baker's van would arrive selling hot cross buns. Children and their mothers would merrily gather round, threepence each, five for a shilling. Then, just as suddenly, it would disappear like a thief in the night and the mothers and their children would slink back to their dumbstruck households, almost embarrassed to be alive.
Exactly as @leon said. It’s like the PM of Pakistan addressing Muslims on an Islamic holiday as he were talking to tourists visiting for the weekend
How? It is clearly a sincere celebration of the holiday from an excellent PM. Your shoehorning of some casual dog-whistle Islamophobia in there tells one all we need to know about your motivations here.
As for @leon - even a Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist thinks he’s a loser. Safely ignored.
Edit: sorry - he never won the Nobel Prize. Point stands though.
Islamophobia! How boring
My motivation was that it seemed an strange way to address a country that until very recently considered itself Christian, and only doesn't now because of a mass immigration of non Christians that the Christians neither asked for or like much.
I'd argue the decrease in Christianity is much more to do with the rise of Atheism/Agnosticism among the home grown population than mass immigration, especially since quite a lot of recent immigrants are if anything *more* Christian.
That is a fair point, but if there had been no immigration of non Christians, and England were simply Christian or Atheist as a result of declining belief in God, I don't think politicians such as Starmer would be so mealy mouthed
There’s a plaque in York commemorating the 1190 pogrom of Jews there. So at least we know that when isam bemoans the immigration of non-Christians, he is carrying on a very old tradition. Maybe in another thousand years, we will have finally grown out of the sentiment.
The law is now clear: it is not lawful to allow anyone male, including trans women, to take part in female-only sports affected by average differences in strength and stamina between the sexes.
It is unlawful to operate single-sex services, hospital wards, changing rooms and toilets that are open to trans members of the opposite sex. Workplaces and schools must always provide single-sex facilities; other service providers can choose whether to, but not doing so might be sex discrimination. A hospital or care provider cannot honour a woman’s request to have intimate care provided by a female with a male professional who identifies as female.
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Penny: Oh, wow, that doesn't seem fair.
Stephen Hawking: It's fine. I've been on The Simpsons.
The atheist and even more so the Muslim vote solidly Labour and the Hindu and Sikh vote leans Labour but has become more Conservative, indeed it was one of the few groups Rishi got a swing with last year for obvious reasons.
The LDs also do OK with Anglicans and Methodists, Reform with cultural Christians but less regular churchgoers and the SNP with Church of Scotland
Senior officials in Westminster have been warned to avoid known ‘hotspots’ in the SW1 area
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/spy-chiefs-china-bugging-st-james-park-whitehall-b1223344.html
Unfortunately the biggest proponents of change are usually of the flip variety.
The bizarre articles that resulted had my American relatives puzzled when they visited. They were expecting something like Sarajevo during the siege.
Another entertaining one was the apparent interviews with people on the street in the UK (again in the New York Times). Using American idiom and sporting similes. Because Londoners frequently use baseball metaphors to express political opinions….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ktBQ51iGWw&t=150s
Christians, like Jews, Pagans, atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and more have throughout history made contributions to this country.
The only reason I could see anyone could object is if someone was stupid enough to think Christians haven't contributed, or stupid enough to think they're the only ones who have. Which is it?
That’s what’s winding the PB right up. He won, they lost. Suck it up buttercups
Good point, well made
Not really in the Easter Spirit but Starmer's message seems very much in line with normal protocol for these occasions
There are far more issues to take Starmer to task on then a simple Easter one
He didn't build it single handedly but he did make an important contribution. Odd example to choose.
Some from local bakers are pretty good. I've also enjoyed simnel cake with my coffee this Eastertide, heathen though I might be,
Ten years ago Osborne was given a standing ovation at Republican dinners in the US in the Romney and Tea party era which he wouldn't get now with Trump
Sheldon: Yuck! English pudding! You get yourself all excited for pudding, and here comes a cake with raisins in it.
Since my daughter hates raisins and my wife dislikes them, I'm quite glad we get a variety of choice now. Even though I do like raisins personally.
Though, to support his case, autocorrect wanted to change him to "Islam".
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It's a bloody disgrace and merits extensive debate. Who does he think he is?
Which is the problem...
In Russian there is no single word for blue. There's one for dark blue and one for light blue. The latter is also used to mean gay.
Is hung with bloom along the bough,
And stands about the woodland ride
Wearing white for Eastertide.
Now, of my threescore years and ten,
Twenty will not come again,
And take from seventy springs a score,
It only leaves me fifty more.
And since to look at things in bloom
Fifty springs are little room,
About the woodlands I will go
To see the cherry hung with snow….
And that’s why I’m in Kyrgyzstan
They work just as well to be frank.
He's one of those atheists himself.
If he started preaching as if he were a Christian himself those criticising him today would be criticising him for being inauthentic and disingenuous.
What he said was polite and reasonable, unless you are looking to take offence.
We are a diverse country. There is no requirement for citizens of this country to be members of the established Church and never has been.
What was impolite or unreasonable about it precisely?
I have already said more than once what I thought was odd about Starmer's choice of words. We don't need to carry it on. Stop clucking for a row
So you know, legally and all, we are a Christian country.
...In 1592, during the reign of Elizabeth I of England, the London Clerk of Markets issued a decree forbidding the sale of spiced buns and other spiced breads, except at burials, on Good Friday, or at Christmas. The punishment for transgressing the decree was forfeiture of all the forbidden product to the poor. As a result, hot cross buns at the time were primarily made in domestic kitchens.
Further attempts to suppress the sale of these items outside of these holy days took place during the reign of James I of England (1603–1625)...
There was literally nothing impolite or untrue or odd about it.
Christians have made a contribution to this country. As historically and presently too have Jews, Pagans, atheists, agnostics, Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs and more.
Nothing remotely odd about recognising Christians on Easter. It's polite.
Unless for some bizarre and ignorant reason you think Christians have made no contributions to this country?
Or some equally bizarre and ignorant reason you think only Christians have?
I have just told you that I wasn't looking to take offence, and I am not lying.
Why do you want to carry it on so much, when you must surely know that I am not going to give an inch?
Legally we have an established Church, I said that. That doesn't mean that legally we are a Christian country. Especially when Christians make up a minority of the population.
My house has a tradition that as a family we make sushi on Easter Sunday.
Thank you.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foods_with_religious_symbolism
https://x.com/mcimac38/status/1913810193378431297
Happy Easter to all, including the Radical Left Lunatics who are fighting and scheming so hard to bring Murderers, Drug Lords, Dangerous Prisoners, the Mentally Insane, and well known MS-13 Gang Members and Wife Beaters, back into our Country. Happy Easter also to the WEAK and INEFFECTIVE Judges and Law Enforcement Officials who are allowing this sinister attack on our Nation to continue, an attack so violent that it will never be forgotten! Sleepy Joe Biden purposefully allowed Millions of CRIMINALS to enter our Country, totally unvetted and unchecked, through an Open Borders Policy that will go down in history as the single most calamitous act ever perpetrated upon America. He was, by far, our WORST and most Incompetent President, a man who had absolutely no idea what he was doing -- But to him, and to the person that ran and manipulated the Auto Pen (perhaps our REAL President!), and to all of the people who CHEATED in the 2020 Presidential Election in order to get this highly destructive Moron Elected, I wish you, with great love, sincerity, and affection, a very Happy Easter!!!
I’m from Crimea. I saw the annexation with my own eyes. I know what occupation feels like. I know how many people in Crimea still believe in Ukraine.
And now - I genuinely have no words.
america, go fuck yourself. Right along with russia.
https://x.com/NAFOvoyager/status/1913441163882713459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BNzOc2Uw4A
(Edit: **** That'll teach me for making a bad joke)
I said an hour or so ago that we should drop it because we wont agree, and it could drag on for weeks, I then told you I wasn't looking for offence and did find it impolite and unreasonable, then confirmed that I wasn't lying when you wouldn't believe me, whilst repeatedly asking you to drop it, and yet you won't just leave it.
Do you need to feel like you won so much that I should pretend that you have caught me out so that you feel good about yourself? You are a grown man I believe, so try and accept that you are being told to go away
Then, suddenly, out of the blue, a baker's van would arrive selling hot cross buns. Children and their mothers would merrily gather round, threepence each, five for a shilling. Then, just as suddenly, it would disappear like a thief in the night and the mothers and their children would slink back to their dumbstruck households, almost embarrassed to be alive.
The law is now clear: it is not lawful to allow anyone male, including trans women, to take part in female-only sports affected by average differences in strength and stamina between the sexes.
It is unlawful to operate single-sex services, hospital wards, changing rooms and toilets that are open to trans members of the opposite sex. Workplaces and schools must always provide single-sex facilities; other service providers can choose whether to, but not doing so might be sex discrimination. A hospital or care provider cannot honour a woman’s request to have intimate care provided by a female with a male professional who identifies as female.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/20/the-observer-view-on-equality-act-ruling-a-dignified-compromise-that-respects-the-rights-of-everyone
Sounds like some Labour MPs aren’t happy about this…..