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SystemSystem Posts: 12,419
edited April 16 in General
Unquiet flows the Don – politicalbetting.com

4)      Succeeded in appointing his cronies and sycophants to cabinet posts (even though you would not want a cabinet with this many screws loose);

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  • scampi25scampi25 Posts: 95
    Inflation good today but rises forecast for next month. Oil price the big factor today plus the different dates for Easter.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,483
    edited April 16
    Sending a few hundred people to an El Salvadorean hell-hole now means that everyone will get due process. Trump pissing off the Supreme Court to the point where they give judgements against him was one of the more unexpected outcomes of the first three months.

  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,089
    Scone!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,483
    IanB2 said:

    Scone!

    No, SCONE!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,397
    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,012
    Good morning

    Excellent header and just how or when this insanity will end is anyone's guess as is the damage to economies across the globe

    Today's inflation fall looks like the lull before the storm as huge rises in water, council tax [ours 9.7%], energy, broadband phone and TV increases plus others

    I cannot see a silver lining for labour and certainly not whilst Reeves is COE
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,521
    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    I see you've been attending the TSE school of punning.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,483
    That picture in the header perfectly illustrates why Trump hasn't secured a sponsorship from an orange cosmetic product line.

    Donald Trump's face - you couldn't make it up...

    Perhaps he should have it tattooed on?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,397
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    I see you've been attending the TSE school of punning.
    How dare you sir? I was at Aberystwyth not Cambridge.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,521
    An exemption un-exempted again.

    $NVDA says the U.S. government has banned exports of its H20 chips to China indefinitely, citing national security risks tied to potential supercomputing use. As a result, NVIDIA expects to take a charge of up to $5.5 billion in its fiscal Q1 ending April 27, tied to H20 inventory, purchase commitments, and related reserves.
    https://x.com/wallstengine/status/1912257489468551376
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 923
    My former US colleague summed up November's result as another 4 years of checks and balances being stress tested. Then sadly agreed that even the most pessimistic had expected they'd last more than 2 weeks.
    The US system's much heralded checks are useless against an authoritarian (GOP) POTUS, recent history is that the innate Republican bias in the 2 houses limits even a popular Dem POTUS.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,593
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    I see you've been attending the TSE school of punning.
    But his puns aren't as subtle as mine.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,536
    Nigelb said:

    An exemption un-exempted again.

    $NVDA says the U.S. government has banned exports of its H20 chips to China indefinitely, citing national security risks tied to potential supercomputing use. As a result, NVIDIA expects to take a charge of up to $5.5 billion in its fiscal Q1 ending April 27, tied to H20 inventory, purchase commitments, and related reserves.
    https://x.com/wallstengine/status/1912257489468551376

    This one could actually make some sense. I’d imagine there could be genuine security concerns with China on some products.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,830

    Sending a few hundred people to an El Salvadorean hell-hole now means that everyone will get due process. Trump pissing off the Supreme Court to the point where they give judgements against him was one of the more unexpected outcomes of the first three months.

    Due process?

    Grab people off the street at random
    Deport them
    Courts complain
    El Salvador says you can't have them back
    Trump pays El Savador for their services.

    That is the established process. What are the courts going to do about it?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,012

    Sending a few hundred people to an El Salvadorean hell-hole now means that everyone will get due process. Trump pissing off the Supreme Court to the point where they give judgements against him was one of the more unexpected outcomes of the first three months.

    Due process?

    Grab people off the street at random
    Deport them
    Courts complain
    El Salvador says you can't have them back
    Trump pays El Savador for their services.

    That is the established process. What are the courts going to do about it?
    It is all very scary and why would anyone want to visit the US whilst Trump is on office?
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,830
    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,397
    Dura_Ace said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    The title of the book is "Тихий Дон" so the correct translation of the title is (The) Quiet Don, with the definite article being implied by context.

    "And Quiet Flows the Don" was the title given a literary flourish by the publishers of Stephens' translation because they felt a western audience wouldn't know the Don was river and the title would make no sense. Hence the addition of "Flows".

    #pedanticbetting.com :smile:

    So it should be 'Unquiet Don?'
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,574
    FPT:

    Inflation falls again.

    Shocking. When is this useless government going to do something about it.
    Is it all possible as I keep saying that the criticism of their policies is a touch overblown?
    Which Government policies do you credit with bringing down inflation?
    If Reeves gets attacked whenever the economic news is bad, she surely has to be credited whenever it is good. Presumably you’ll be using this same argument when it goes up in April?

    My point simply is that people keep saying how terrible this government is and how it’s destroying the economy but the evidence on that is pretty mixed at worst.

    That’s my five post limit hit.
    Reeves is being attacked for the negative outcomes of her budget. If you can't name a single policy initiative that Labour have put in place that is anti-inflationary, I'm not sure we can use this to declare criticism of their policies to be overblown.

    I am not biased in this - I was equally critical of Rishi Sunak claiming credit for inflation falling during his tenure.
    Well - continuing to spend public money keeping fuel prices down "temporarily" is one obvious one. Costing £2.5bn approx in the current year to provide an enhanced "temporary" subsidy for iirc "the energy crisis".

    Reduced interest rates slowly is another.

    And year on year 10% reduction in the energy price cap Q1 2024 to Q1 2025. Though that is not itself a specific policy.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,319
    ydoethur said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    The title of the book is "Тихий Дон" so the correct translation of the title is (The) Quiet Don, with the definite article being implied by context.

    "And Quiet Flows the Don" was the title given a literary flourish by the publishers of Stephens' translation because they felt a western audience wouldn't know the Don was river and the title would make no sense. Hence the addition of "Flows".

    #pedanticbetting.com :smile:

    So it should be 'Unquiet Don?'
    I think I'd prefer it if Don were quieter.

    100 per cent quieter would be good.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 29,830

    Sending a few hundred people to an El Salvadorean hell-hole now means that everyone will get due process. Trump pissing off the Supreme Court to the point where they give judgements against him was one of the more unexpected outcomes of the first three months.

    Due process?

    Grab people off the street at random
    Deport them
    Courts complain
    El Salvador says you can't have them back
    Trump pays El Savador for their services.

    That is the established process. What are the courts going to do about it?
    It is all very scary and why would anyone want to visit the US whilst Trump is on office?
    I was planning to go to an Indycar race next year for my 50th. If I am it will be Toronto - I'm not going to Gilead.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,397

    ydoethur said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    The title of the book is "Тихий Дон" so the correct translation of the title is (The) Quiet Don, with the definite article being implied by context.

    "And Quiet Flows the Don" was the title given a literary flourish by the publishers of Stephens' translation because they felt a western audience wouldn't know the Don was river and the title would make no sense. Hence the addition of "Flows".

    #pedanticbetting.com :smile:

    So it should be 'Unquiet Don?'
    I think I'd prefer it if Don were quieter.

    100 per cent quieter would be good.
    Thomas Crooks attempted to give him a quietus, but his aim wasn't very good.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,483

    Sending a few hundred people to an El Salvadorean hell-hole now means that everyone will get due process. Trump pissing off the Supreme Court to the point where they give judgements against him was one of the more unexpected outcomes of the first three months.

    Due process?

    Grab people off the street at random
    Deport them
    Courts complain
    El Salvador says you can't have them back
    Trump pays El Savador for their services.

    That is the established process. What are the courts going to do about it?
    Well, put a bunch of DoJ lawyers in jail for contempt.

    Do a jail release when El Salvador plays ball.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,258

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    Bales of straw can be used to build strong, sturdy and well insulated walls
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,317
    Dura_Ace said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    I built a car port last year (no planning permission, lol). Mrs DA wanted a wooden one because she saw one on some bollocks TV program and liked it. The oak beams I used to make the roof trusses were 500 QUID each.

    Wood is expensive.
    Oka is very expensive.

    Other woods, less so.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,483
    (Rostov-on-)Don hasn't been very quiet for a while now. Due to the number of drones the Ukrainians slam into it on a regular basis.

    The loud wailing there of "What air defence doing?" doesn't help the silence either.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,574

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    Is it's a short-term crisis, long-term option 1 or long-term option 2 is not much of an answer :smile: .

    IMO there's a fair bit of positional bollocks in that story. eg

    Timber construction has long been widely used in North America, Scandinavia and Scotland, but has struggled for traction in England — where houses are typically still built by hand out of bricks and blocks.

    In fact the timber frame share in England has been increasing over time. It is now moving towards 25%, and is up by about 10% in a decade - which is quite a change.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,574
    Dura_Ace said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    The title of the book is "Тихий Дон" so the correct translation of the title is (The) Quiet Don, with the definite article being implied by context.

    "And Quiet Flows the Don" was the title given a literary flourish by the publishers of Stephens' translation because they felt a western audience wouldn't know the Don was river and the title would make no sense. Hence the addition of "Flows".

    The Quiet Don sounds like an excellent aspiration - does anyone have a gobstopper?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,319

    Dura_Ace said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    I built a car port last year (no planning permission, lol). Mrs DA wanted a wooden one because she saw one on some bollocks TV program and liked it. The oak beams I used to make the roof trusses were 500 QUID each.

    Wood is expensive.
    Oka is very expensive.

    Other woods, less so.
    There's probably some going cheap in Enfield.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,397
    edited April 16
    MattW said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    Is it's a short-term crisis, long-term option 1 or long-term option 2 is not much of an answer :smile: .

    IMO there's a fair bit of positional bollocks in that story. eg

    Timber construction has long been widely used in North America, Scandinavia and Scotland, but has struggled for traction in England — where houses are typically still built by hand out of bricks and blocks.

    In fact the timber frame share in England has been increasing over time. It is now moving towards 25%, and is up by about 10% in a decade - which is quite a change.
    Traditionally, there was quite a lot of timber construction in England too.

    I mean, there's a fairly old house in Stratford lived in by some bloke called Shagstaffe I think, that's timber. And up in @Big_G_NorthWales neck of the woods, Aberconwy House is made of timber. Plus 25 Church Street in @Leon's favourite town in all the world, and no. 1 Culver Street, and Gooch Sports, they're all made of timber and date from the 15th century. And Ledbury Market House, that's timber. And in Stafford, the town museum is timber. As for Lichfield, don't get me started. There's more wood in the housing stock than in Trump's head.

    It's just that between deforestation, massive fires due to cramped urban areas and a climate that means wood tends to rot quite quickly we've tended to go more with brick as it's more durable.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,317

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    Round here, many (not all) of the new houses being built are structurally timber-framed with a brick outer skin. The wooden shells go up in a day or so; the insulation already in place (*). Many of the roof trusses are craned on straight from the lorry that delivers them. Then the brick outer skin takes *ages* to build, in comparison.

    Which all means the amount of breeze-blocks (which is otherwise used to build the inner skin) are in much less demand. It'd be interesting to know if the brick skin is because it is the best material for our climate, or just tradition/preference.

    (*) I have no idea if the first-fix services are in place in the wooden frames.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,397
    MattW said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    The title of the book is "Тихий Дон" so the correct translation of the title is (The) Quiet Don, with the definite article being implied by context.

    "And Quiet Flows the Don" was the title given a literary flourish by the publishers of Stephens' translation because they felt a western audience wouldn't know the Don was river and the title would make no sense. Hence the addition of "Flows".

    The Quiet Don sounds like an excellent aspiration - does anyone have a gobstopper?
    He's got several dummies.

    Hegseth, Gabbard, Vance, Navarro...
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,393

    Sending a few hundred people to an El Salvadorean hell-hole now means that everyone will get due process. Trump pissing off the Supreme Court to the point where they give judgements against him was one of the more unexpected outcomes of the first three months.

    Due process?

    Grab people off the street at random
    Deport them
    Courts complain
    El Salvador says you can't have them back
    Trump pays El Savador for their services.

    That is the established process. What are the courts going to do about it?
    It is all very scary and why would anyone want to visit the US whilst Trump is on office?
    I'm going on Monday! If you don't hear from me by next weekend, please contact a human rights lawyer on my behalf.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,007
    Dura_Ace said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    I built a car port last year (no planning permission, lol). Mrs DA wanted a wooden one because she saw one on some bollocks TV program and liked it. The oak beams I used to make the roof trusses were 500 QUID each.

    Wood is expensive.
    Short supply. A huuge amount of oak went into rebuilding the roof of Notre Dame. Europe's forests, especially France's, may take a long while to recover. On iPlayer "Rebuilding Notre Dame" is quite an eye-opener, albeit presented by Lucy Worsley

  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,574
    edited April 16
    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    The title of the book is "Тихий Дон" so the correct translation of the title is (The) Quiet Don, with the definite article being implied by context.

    "And Quiet Flows the Don" was the title given a literary flourish by the publishers of Stephens' translation because they felt a western audience wouldn't know the Don was river and the title would make no sense. Hence the addition of "Flows".

    The Quiet Don sounds like an excellent aspiration - does anyone have a gobstopper?
    He's got several dummies.

    Hegseth, Gabbard, Vance, Navarro...
    Add Bondi, Beasant, Wiles and it's nearly (one syllable out) the Trumpton Fire Brigade in the wild.

    Here's another example for my photo quota - start with DONG:

  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,202
    Dura_Ace said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    I built a car port last year (no planning permission, lol). Mrs DA wanted a wooden one because she saw one on some bollocks TV program and liked it. The oak beams I used to make the roof trusses were 500 QUID each.

    Wood is expensive.
    Hence a thousand pounds a pop to listen to the thoughts of Chairman Liz.
  • NeilVWNeilVW Posts: 739
    geoffw said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    I built a car port last year (no planning permission, lol). Mrs DA wanted a wooden one because she saw one on some bollocks TV program and liked it. The oak beams I used to make the roof trusses were 500 QUID each.

    Wood is expensive.
    Short supply. A huuge amount of oak went into rebuilding the roof of Notre Dame. Europe's forests, especially France's, may take a long while to recover. On iPlayer "Rebuilding Notre Dame" is quite an eye-opener, albeit presented by Lucy Worsley

    Over 1,000 oak trees were used, AI tells me.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,148
    Dura_Ace said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    I built a car port last year (no planning permission, lol). Mrs DA wanted a wooden one because she saw one on some bollocks TV program and liked it. The oak beams I used to make the roof trusses were 500 QUID each.

    Wood is expensive.
    Did you nail your Truss or just drill and screw?
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 9,007
    NeilVW said:

    geoffw said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    I built a car port last year (no planning permission, lol). Mrs DA wanted a wooden one because she saw one on some bollocks TV program and liked it. The oak beams I used to make the roof trusses were 500 QUID each.

    Wood is expensive.
    Short supply. A huuge amount of oak went into rebuilding the roof of Notre Dame. Europe's forests, especially France's, may take a long while to recover. On iPlayer "Rebuilding Notre Dame" is quite an eye-opener, albeit presented by Lucy Worsley

    Over 1,000 oak trees were used, AI tells me.
    Yup, all of them mature - hundred years plus

  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,407

    Good morning

    Excellent header and just how or when this insanity will end is anyone's guess as is the damage to economies across the globe

    Today's inflation fall looks like the lull before the storm as huge rises in water, council tax [ours 9.7%], energy, broadband phone and TV increases plus others

    I cannot see a silver lining for labour and certainly not whilst Reeves is COE

    You're wearing your blue tinted specs again. Rachel is turning out be be more than we dared hope. After I heard she was an ex chess champion and watched the tawdry sexist attacks on her integrity I thought she might surprise us, She's got a quiet self assurance which is likable

    Early days but i think we can afford to be optimistic
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,202

    Good morning

    Excellent header and just how or when this insanity will end is anyone's guess as is the damage to economies across the globe

    Today's inflation fall looks like the lull before the storm as huge rises in water, council tax [ours 9.7%], energy, broadband phone and TV increases plus others

    I cannot see a silver lining for labour and certainly not whilst Reeves is COE

    Trump will have Nigel's back. An election and a Reform government the sooner the better?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,148


    Latest MIC leadership polling. Amongst 2024 Tory voters barely a third think Badenoch best PM. Farage next most popular, but surprising support for Starmer too.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,574

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    Round here, many (not all) of the new houses being built are structurally timber-framed with a brick outer skin. The wooden shells go up in a day or so; the insulation already in place (*). Many of the roof trusses are craned on straight from the lorry that delivers them. Then the brick outer skin takes *ages* to build, in comparison.

    Which all means the amount of breeze-blocks (which is otherwise used to build the inner skin) are in much less demand. It'd be interesting to know if the brick skin is because it is the best material for our climate, or just tradition/preference.

    (*) I have no idea if the first-fix services are in place in the wooden frames.
    Normally it could be a variety of materials, including rendered breeze blocks, or processed or cleaved stone.

    It would be partly determined by planning requirements and the vernacular. In the Peak District Park for example, the Planning Authority (which is the park) would typically require stone or mainly stone for the outer finish.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,202
    geoffw said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    I built a car port last year (no planning permission, lol). Mrs DA wanted a wooden one because she saw one on some bollocks TV program and liked it. The oak beams I used to make the roof trusses were 500 QUID each.

    Wood is expensive.
    Short supply. A huuge amount of oak went into rebuilding the roof of Notre Dame. Europe's forests, especially France's, may take a long while to recover. On iPlayer "Rebuilding Notre Dame" is quite an eye-opener, albeit presented by Lucy Worsley

    Lucy Worsley is a goddess!
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,574
    geoffw said:

    NeilVW said:

    geoffw said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    I built a car port last year (no planning permission, lol). Mrs DA wanted a wooden one because she saw one on some bollocks TV program and liked it. The oak beams I used to make the roof trusses were 500 QUID each.

    Wood is expensive.
    Short supply. A huuge amount of oak went into rebuilding the roof of Notre Dame. Europe's forests, especially France's, may take a long while to recover. On iPlayer "Rebuilding Notre Dame" is quite an eye-opener, albeit presented by Lucy Worsley

    Over 1,000 oak trees were used, AI tells me.
    Yup, all of them mature - hundred years plus
    France is traditionally a cheaper source of oak; I know people who have imported the whole lot to the UK from there for their house. There are a couple of examples on Grand Designs iirc.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,012
    Roger said:

    Good morning

    Excellent header and just how or when this insanity will end is anyone's guess as is the damage to economies across the globe

    Today's inflation fall looks like the lull before the storm as huge rises in water, council tax [ours 9.7%], energy, broadband phone and TV increases plus others

    I cannot see a silver lining for labour and certainly not whilst Reeves is COE

    You're wearing your blue tinted specs again. Rachel is turning out be be more than we dared hope. After I heard she was an ex chess champion and watched the tawdry sexist attacks on her integrity I thought she might surprise us, She's got a quiet self assurance which is likable

    Early days but i think we can afford to be optimistic
    It's not me wearing blue tinted spectacles but the publics verdict on Reeves who is nearing Truss levels

    As for integrity what is it about her accepting freebies right left and centre

  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,983
    Dura_Ace said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    The title of the book is "Тихий Дон" so the correct translation of the title is (The) Quiet Don, with the definite article being implied by context.

    "And Quiet Flows the Don" was the title given a literary flourish by the publishers of Stephens' translation because they felt a western audience wouldn't know the Don was river and the title would make no sense. Hence the addition of "Flows".

    Has anyone taken up the challenge to write a masterpiece featuring the real River Don - the one which flows through legendary, romantic, remote and glittering Doncaster and on to the cloud capped palaces of Goole?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,202
    Foxy said:



    Latest MIC leadership polling. Amongst 2024 Tory voters barely a third think Badenoch best PM. Farage next most popular, but surprising support for Starmer too.

    I suspect if the Tories replaced Badenoch with Honest Bobby J. we would see an exponential change between Ref and Con.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,521
    Taz said:

    Nigelb said:

    An exemption un-exempted again.

    $NVDA says the U.S. government has banned exports of its H20 chips to China indefinitely, citing national security risks tied to potential supercomputing use. As a result, NVIDIA expects to take a charge of up to $5.5 billion in its fiscal Q1 ending April 27, tied to H20 inventory, purchase commitments, and related reserves.
    https://x.com/wallstengine/status/1912257489468551376

    This one could actually make some sense. I’d imagine there could be genuine security concerns with China on some products.
    There are reasonable arguments both for and against.
    The point is rather that the special exemption was announced all of ... a week ago.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,521
    NeilVW said:

    geoffw said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    I built a car port last year (no planning permission, lol). Mrs DA wanted a wooden one because she saw one on some bollocks TV program and liked it. The oak beams I used to make the roof trusses were 500 QUID each.

    Wood is expensive.
    Short supply. A huuge amount of oak went into rebuilding the roof of Notre Dame. Europe's forests, especially France's, may take a long while to recover. On iPlayer "Rebuilding Notre Dame" is quite an eye-opener, albeit presented by Lucy Worsley

    Over 1,000 oak trees were used, AI tells me.
    Some carport.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,983
    edited April 16

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    Bales of straw can be used to build strong, sturdy and well insulated walls
    You can't to that as well as reintroducing the wolf to our countryside. Ask any four year old.

    PS I now see I am late to this thought. See above.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,148
    Nigelb said:

    NeilVW said:

    geoffw said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    I built a car port last year (no planning permission, lol). Mrs DA wanted a wooden one because she saw one on some bollocks TV program and liked it. The oak beams I used to make the roof trusses were 500 QUID each.

    Wood is expensive.
    Short supply. A huuge amount of oak went into rebuilding the roof of Notre Dame. Europe's forests, especially France's, may take a long while to recover. On iPlayer "Rebuilding Notre Dame" is quite an eye-opener, albeit presented by Lucy Worsley

    Over 1,000 oak trees were used, AI tells me.
    Some carport.
    Lots of cars...
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,574
    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    Is it's a short-term crisis, long-term option 1 or long-term option 2 is not much of an answer :smile: .

    IMO there's a fair bit of positional bollocks in that story. eg

    Timber construction has long been widely used in North America, Scandinavia and Scotland, but has struggled for traction in England — where houses are typically still built by hand out of bricks and blocks.

    In fact the timber frame share in England has been increasing over time. It is now moving towards 25%, and is up by about 10% in a decade - which is quite a change.
    Traditionally, there was quite a lot of timber construction in England too.

    I mean, there's a fairly old house in Stratford lived in by some bloke called Shagstaffe I think, that's timber. And up in @Big_G_NorthWales neck of the woods, Aberconwy House is made of timber. Plus 25 Church Street in @Leon's favourite town in all the world, and no. 1 Culver Street, and Gooch Sports, they're all made of timber and date from the 15th century. And Ledbury Market House, that's timber. And in Stafford, the town museum is timber. As for Lichfield, don't get me started. There's more wood in the housing stock than in Trump's head.

    It's just that between deforestation, massive fires due to cramped urban areas and a climate that means wood tends to rot quite quickly we've tended to go more with brick as it's more durable.
    If you are in the Flatlands:

    Welcome to St. Andrews Church, Greensted, The oldest wooden Church in the World, and the oldest ‘Stave Built’ timber building in Europe.

    The church represents some 1300 years of English history and Christian worship.

    http://www.greenstedchurch.org.uk/history.html
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,521
    The student paper at the college at which I teach reports a "tsunami of takedown requests" from international students terrified of being targeted for innocuous, legitimate op-eds & opinions.. Many ask in person--leave no trace in writing. Reminds me of my father's account of studying in the USSR.
    https://bsky.app/profile/jeffsharlet.bsky.social/post/3lmumkhpaa22d
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,148

    Foxy said:



    Latest MIC leadership polling. Amongst 2024 Tory voters barely a third think Badenoch best PM. Farage next most popular, but surprising support for Starmer too.

    I suspect if the Tories replaced Badenoch with Honest Bobby J. we would see an exponential change between Ref and Con.
    Assuming Badenexit this autumn, who else would likely stand?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,202
    edited April 16

    Roger said:

    Good morning

    Excellent header and just how or when this insanity will end is anyone's guess as is the damage to economies across the globe

    Today's inflation fall looks like the lull before the storm as huge rises in water, council tax [ours 9.7%], energy, broadband phone and TV increases plus others

    I cannot see a silver lining for labour and certainly not whilst Reeves is COE

    You're wearing your blue tinted specs again. Rachel is turning out be be more than we dared hope. After I heard she was an ex chess champion and watched the tawdry sexist attacks on her integrity I thought she might surprise us, She's got a quiet self assurance which is likable

    Early days but i think we can afford to be optimistic
    It's not me wearing blue tinted spectacles but the publics verdict on Reeves who is nearing Truss levels

    As for integrity what is it about her accepting freebies right left and centre

    I am not particularly impressed by Reeves, her brutal social services cuts and failure to tax wealth seem like a massive dereliction of duty to me. But please don't equate the free tickets and various clothing allowances with Lord Lebedev's Bunga, Bunga parties, Lord Brownlow's wallpaper, Lady JCB's food banks and Lord Zac's holiday homes. She shouldn't be given freebies, and she shouldn't accept them, but there is no parity.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,536
    Nigelb said:

    Taz said:

    Nigelb said:

    An exemption un-exempted again.

    $NVDA says the U.S. government has banned exports of its H20 chips to China indefinitely, citing national security risks tied to potential supercomputing use. As a result, NVIDIA expects to take a charge of up to $5.5 billion in its fiscal Q1 ending April 27, tied to H20 inventory, purchase commitments, and related reserves.
    https://x.com/wallstengine/status/1912257489468551376

    This one could actually make some sense. I’d imagine there could be genuine security concerns with China on some products.
    There are reasonable arguments both for and against.
    The point is rather that the special exemption was announced all of ... a week ago.
    Yes, I’m well aware of that and the bizarre nature of the current US administration and its approach to business.

    Perhaps we need Bill Ackman to start crying about it on Twitter again.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,096
    Uncle Sam abruptly turns off funding for CVE program
    https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/16/homeland_security_funding_for_cve/

    The US government today ends its funding for the CVE database, that is the classification of computer security holes. With a bit of luck someone else will step in, cybersecurity being fairly important in the modern world.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,580
    algarkirk said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    The title of the book is "Тихий Дон" so the correct translation of the title is (The) Quiet Don, with the definite article being implied by context.

    "And Quiet Flows the Don" was the title given a literary flourish by the publishers of Stephens' translation because they felt a western audience wouldn't know the Don was river and the title would make no sense. Hence the addition of "Flows".

    Has anyone taken up the challenge to write a masterpiece featuring the real River Don - the one which flows through legendary, romantic, remote and glittering Doncaster and on to the cloud capped palaces of Goole?
    In Düsseldorf I discovered the Düssel, which is a muddy stream that runs through a park, and wondered why they didn't call the city Rheindorf
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,202

    Uncle Sam abruptly turns off funding for CVE program
    https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/16/homeland_security_funding_for_cve/

    The US government today ends its funding for the CVE database, that is the classification of computer security holes. With a bit of luck someone else will step in, cybersecurity being fairly important in the modern world.

    Like the Russians or the Chinese on the QT?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,521
    Nigelb said:

    The student paper at the college at which I teach reports a "tsunami of takedown requests" from international students terrified of being targeted for innocuous, legitimate op-eds & opinions.. Many ask in person--leave no trace in writing. Reminds me of my father's account of studying in the USSR.
    https://bsky.app/profile/jeffsharlet.bsky.social/post/3lmumkhpaa22d

    To avoid this sort of thing.

    Visa revoked of math professor, University of Houston confirms

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/education/article/uh-visa-revoked-math-professor-20277600.php
    ...Jeon's most recent curriculum vitae posted to the UH website showed that he was a postdoctoral scholar at Ohio State University from September 2022 to June 2024. He began teaching at UH in fall 2024, according to the resume.

    UH officials said they were not aware of other faculty affected by visa terminations.

    "Due to the unexpected termination of my visa – an issue that has recently impacted many international scholars – I must return to Korea immediately to resolve my immigration status," he wrote. "As a result, I will no longer be able to continue teaching."

    Universities are tracking the terminations in a federal database of international students and exchange visitors called SEVIS, which is managed by the Department of Homeland Security. The change means that they no longer have legal status, regardless of whether their visa was revoked. People with terminated records in the system are required to leave the U.S. immediately and not return, though some circumstances could provide them a grace period...



  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,133

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    Brick ovens are actually pretty simple tech. Adding capacity should be months, not years.

    That’s assuming we can get the 3000 page reports on nothing written in time.

    The biggest problem will be the high price of industrial electricity.
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,394
    algarkirk said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    The title of the book is "Тихий Дон" so the correct translation of the title is (The) Quiet Don, with the definite article being implied by context.

    "And Quiet Flows the Don" was the title given a literary flourish by the publishers of Stephens' translation because they felt a western audience wouldn't know the Don was river and the title would make no sense. Hence the addition of "Flows".

    Has anyone taken up the challenge to write a masterpiece featuring the real River Don - the one which flows through legendary, romantic, remote and glittering Doncaster and on to the cloud capped palaces of Goole?
    There are salmon back in the Don - though it'd take a brave man to eat one.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,257
    algarkirk said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    The title of the book is "Тихий Дон" so the correct translation of the title is (The) Quiet Don, with the definite article being implied by context.

    "And Quiet Flows the Don" was the title given a literary flourish by the publishers of Stephens' translation because they felt a western audience wouldn't know the Don was river and the title would make no sense. Hence the addition of "Flows".

    Has anyone taken up the challenge to write a masterpiece featuring the real River Don - the one which flows through legendary, romantic, remote and glittering Doncaster and on to the cloud capped palaces of Goole?
    Ahem.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Don,_Aberdeenshire

    Bit of classy classicism as well.

    'The river was recorded by the 2nd century AD cosmographer Ptolemy of Alexandria (d. c 168) as Δηουανα Devona,[1] meaning 'goddess', an indication the river was once a sacred one. Near Kintore, not distant from the Don, is the Deers Den Roman Camp.'
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,857
    geoffw said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    I built a car port last year (no planning permission, lol). Mrs DA wanted a wooden one because she saw one on some bollocks TV program and liked it. The oak beams I used to make the roof trusses were 500 QUID each.

    Wood is expensive.
    Short supply. A huuge amount of oak went into rebuilding the roof of Notre Dame. Europe's forests, especially France's, may take a long while to recover. On iPlayer "Rebuilding Notre Dame" is quite an eye-opener, albeit presented by Lucy Worsley

    Opportunity for me to use my daily photo.



    I’m at my French place this week. See that wooden construction? An oak lean-to my neighbour got built last year, with rather fetching traditional wooden roof tiles.

    Her being into all things eco and artisanal (and having lots of contacts in that world through her career in street theatre), she got it built by artisans who had spent the previous 2 years working on the new roof for notre dame.

    Apparently it was an absolute bonanza for the global woodcraft and stone masonry fraternity. People came from all over the world to work for months or years on what was the biggest project of their lives.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,012

    Roger said:

    Good morning

    Excellent header and just how or when this insanity will end is anyone's guess as is the damage to economies across the globe

    Today's inflation fall looks like the lull before the storm as huge rises in water, council tax [ours 9.7%], energy, broadband phone and TV increases plus others

    I cannot see a silver lining for labour and certainly not whilst Reeves is COE

    You're wearing your blue tinted specs again. Rachel is turning out be be more than we dared hope. After I heard she was an ex chess champion and watched the tawdry sexist attacks on her integrity I thought she might surprise us, She's got a quiet self assurance which is likable

    Early days but i think we can afford to be optimistic
    It's not me wearing blue tinted spectacles but the publics verdict on Reeves who is nearing Truss levels

    As for integrity what is it about her accepting freebies right left and centre

    I am not particularly impressed by Reeves, her brutal social services cuts and failure to tax wealth seem like a massive dereliction of duty to me. But please don't equate the free tickets and various clothing allowances with Lord Lebedev's Bunga, Bunga parties, Lord Brownlow's wallpaper, Lady JCB's food banks and Lord Zac's holiday homes. She shouldn't be given freebies, and she shouldn't accept them, but there is no parity.
    When you stand on a ticket of change and integrity then that is expected and Starmer, Reeves and others have simply failed to follow their promises on this

    But as you say many politicians simply do not seem to understand the word integrity
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,202
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:



    Latest MIC leadership polling. Amongst 2024 Tory voters barely a third think Badenoch best PM. Farage next most popular, but surprising support for Starmer too.

    I suspect if the Tories replaced Badenoch with Honest Bobby J. we would see an exponential change between Ref and Con.
    Assuming Badenexit this autumn, who else would likely stand?
    I don't know and I am not sure I care. Bob seems to have rolled his pitch whilst the rest have cried into their Hermitage at the Strangers Bar.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,731

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    Brick ovens are actually pretty simple tech. Adding capacity should be months, not years.

    That’s assuming we can get the 3000 page reports on nothing written in time.

    The biggest problem will be the high price of industrial electricity.
    We could demolish some buildings and recycle the bricks?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,574
    The other day we were debating about whether access is necessary to improve our transport systems.

    Here's a video from Type Ashton, a youtuber from the USA now living in Germany, returning home to walk her 1980s route to school in small-town Illinois, and to compare what her children do in Deutschland:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkhxWteFcQ4
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,446
    Can anyone explain what the point of the BoE's 2% inflation target is anymore?
  • MattW said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    Is it's a short-term crisis, long-term option 1 or long-term option 2 is not much of an answer :smile: .

    IMO there's a fair bit of positional bollocks in that story. eg

    Timber construction has long been widely used in North America, Scandinavia and Scotland, but has struggled for traction in England — where houses are typically still built by hand out of bricks and blocks.

    In fact the timber frame share in England has been increasing over time. It is now moving towards 25%, and is up by about 10% in a decade - which is quite a change.
    I think most new Premier Inns are timberframed now. I remember doing a fire inspection visit in the Loughborough construction site years ago.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,521
    edited April 16
    Zuckerberg's sucking up to Trump[ appears to have saved him tens of billions.

    Wild story in the WSJ.

    It’s paywalled so I’ll screenshot some key excerpts below.

    But basically it’s about how Mark Zuckerberg spent millions trying to suck up to Trump so Meta only had to pay $450M (instead of $30B that the FTC wanted) to settle an antitrust case against them.

    https://x.com/admcrlsn/status/1912336854227038631

    I guess Nvidia didn't hand over a large enough bung.
    Now they're left with about 400k H200s in inventory.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,731
    algarkirk said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    The title of the book is "Тихий Дон" so the correct translation of the title is (The) Quiet Don, with the definite article being implied by context.

    "And Quiet Flows the Don" was the title given a literary flourish by the publishers of Stephens' translation because they felt a western audience wouldn't know the Don was river and the title would make no sense. Hence the addition of "Flows".

    Has anyone taken up the challenge to write a masterpiece featuring the real River Don - the one which flows through legendary, romantic, remote and glittering Doncaster and on to the cloud capped palaces of Goole?
    No but I once went on a week long GCSE geography field trip to North Wales where we had to stand in the middle of the Afon Dulyn and measure its hydrological properties. Someone in our class with literary pretensions titled his report “Quiet Flows the Afon (or does it?)” and our tosser of a geography teacher failed him for it. Still can’t get over how petty some people are.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,202

    Foxy said:



    Latest MIC leadership polling. Amongst 2024 Tory voters barely a third think Badenoch best PM. Farage next most popular, but surprising support for Starmer too.

    I suspect if the Tories replaced Badenoch with Honest Bobby J. we would see an exponential change between Ref and Con.
    I doubt it. The Conservatives' fundamental problems are:-
    • they have hardly any MPs left (about 120; they lost 250 MPs last July)
    • Boris purged a lot of the experienced ones
    • almost every criticism of Labour at PMQs can be knocked back by Starmer saying the Tories started it (whatever "it" is)
    None of that changes under Jenrick.
    Although what is the point of Farage when the Tories have Honest Bob (although the opposite is equally applicable)?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,148
    edited April 16

    Uncle Sam abruptly turns off funding for CVE program
    https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/16/homeland_security_funding_for_cve/

    The US government today ends its funding for the CVE database, that is the classification of computer security holes. With a bit of luck someone else will step in, cybersecurity being fairly important in the modern world.

    The Defence IT security team have all been DOGE'ed too.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/15/pentagons-digital-resignations-00290930
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,317

    MattW said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    Is it's a short-term crisis, long-term option 1 or long-term option 2 is not much of an answer :smile: .

    IMO there's a fair bit of positional bollocks in that story. eg

    Timber construction has long been widely used in North America, Scandinavia and Scotland, but has struggled for traction in England — where houses are typically still built by hand out of bricks and blocks.

    In fact the timber frame share in England has been increasing over time. It is now moving towards 25%, and is up by about 10% in a decade - which is quite a change.
    I think most new Premier Inns are timberframed now. I remember doing a fire inspection visit in the Loughborough construction site years ago.
    The Holiday Inn Express that was built here a few yeas ago came in containers: each room was a separate 'container' delivered on a low-loader, that was craned into place.

    I believe cruise liner bedrooms are built in a similar manner, and then placed in position on the hull.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,148

    Foxy said:



    Latest MIC leadership polling. Amongst 2024 Tory voters barely a third think Badenoch best PM. Farage next most popular, but surprising support for Starmer too.

    I suspect if the Tories replaced Badenoch with Honest Bobby J. we would see an exponential change between Ref and Con.
    I doubt it. The Conservatives' fundamental problems are:-
    • they have hardly any MPs left (about 120; they lost 250 MPs last July)
    • Boris purged a lot of the experienced ones
    • almost every criticism of Labour at PMQs can be knocked back by Starmer saying the Tories started it (whatever "it" is)
    None of that changes under Jenrick.
    It's very hard to be the sane alternative to Reform when your party has a choice between Jenrick and Bedenoch.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,291
    Foxy said:



    Latest MIC leadership polling. Amongst 2024 Tory voters barely a third think Badenoch best PM. Farage next most popular, but surprising support for Starmer too.

    Those Kemi numbers are fucking woeful. She's got to go but there's plenty of time yet for Badenexit. It's hard for the opposition to time it optimally but about 12-18 months before a GE would be perfect for Jobert Renwick. Enough time him to settle in, reshuffle the scum and dream up some fucking mad policies but not too long that the few people in the country who don't yet loathe him complete the inevitable journey.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,983

    algarkirk said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    The title of the book is "Тихий Дон" so the correct translation of the title is (The) Quiet Don, with the definite article being implied by context.

    "And Quiet Flows the Don" was the title given a literary flourish by the publishers of Stephens' translation because they felt a western audience wouldn't know the Don was river and the title would make no sense. Hence the addition of "Flows".

    Has anyone taken up the challenge to write a masterpiece featuring the real River Don - the one which flows through legendary, romantic, remote and glittering Doncaster and on to the cloud capped palaces of Goole?
    Ahem.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Don,_Aberdeenshire

    Bit of classy classicism as well.

    'The river was recorded by the 2nd century AD cosmographer Ptolemy of Alexandria (d. c 168) as Δηουανα Devona,[1] meaning 'goddess', an indication the river was once a sacred one. Near Kintore, not distant from the Don, is the Deers Den Roman Camp.'
    That's a lot of rivers named after Mr Trump. It's like living in North Korea.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,407
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:



    Latest MIC leadership polling. Amongst 2024 Tory voters barely a third think Badenoch best PM. Farage next most popular, but surprising support for Starmer too.

    I suspect if the Tories replaced Badenoch with Honest Bobby J. we would see an exponential change between Ref and Con.
    Assuming Badenexit this autumn, who else would likely stand?
    'Badenexit' had me leafing through Roget's thesaurus. Maybe Badexit....

  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,500
    Dopermean said:

    My former US colleague summed up November's result as another 4 years of checks and balances being stress tested. Then sadly agreed that even the most pessimistic had expected they'd last more than 2 weeks.
    The US system's much heralded checks are useless against an authoritarian (GOP) POTUS, recent history is that the innate Republican bias in the 2 houses limits even a popular Dem POTUS.

    The gerrymandering and vote rigging in the House is now slightly biased in favour of the Dems.

    Which is why the GOP have such a narrow majority.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,446
    Foxy said:

    Uncle Sam abruptly turns off funding for CVE program
    https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/16/homeland_security_funding_for_cve/

    The US government today ends its funding for the CVE database, that is the classification of computer security holes. With a bit of luck someone else will step in, cybersecurity being fairly important in the modern world.

    The Defence IT security team have all been DOGE'ed too.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/15/pentagons-digital-resignations-00290930
    Another day on the champers over at the Kremlin then.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,455

    Foxy said:



    Latest MIC leadership polling. Amongst 2024 Tory voters barely a third think Badenoch best PM. Farage next most popular, but surprising support for Starmer too.

    I suspect if the Tories replaced Badenoch with Honest Bobby J. we would see an exponential change between Ref and Con.
    I don't know what the term "exponential change" means in this context. If you mean the two parties would swap polling numbers that won't make a lot of difference.

    I have no clue what a Jenrick-led Conservative Party would be like, neither do you and neither, I suspect, does he. Jenrick would soon find out you can't out-Reform Reform and it would be a dutch auction between the two parties to see who could come up with the most ludicrous policy on immigration, housing, the economy etc.

    Badenoch's problem (which Jenrick would share) is at the moment she comes over as a one-dimensional whiny, angry person. She's always cross and upset with everything - she needs to smile, have a little humour and not take herself so seriously at times. Even Margaret Thatcher had the occasional laugh - remember the pro-Europe jumper from 1975?
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,396
    Good morning, everyone.

    On Success no. 6, I'd say it's more that he's succeeded in getting into Mr Putin's comic book. They aren't complimentary so much as laughing at him.

    On failure no. 5, that may be a question of time - time to replace the senior people to those who will just do what he wants, where 'senior' goes as far down the hierarchy as necessary.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,574
    edited April 16
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    The student paper at the college at which I teach reports a "tsunami of takedown requests" from international students terrified of being targeted for innocuous, legitimate op-eds & opinions.. Many ask in person--leave no trace in writing. Reminds me of my father's account of studying in the USSR.
    https://bsky.app/profile/jeffsharlet.bsky.social/post/3lmumkhpaa22d

    To avoid this sort of thing.

    Visa revoked of math professor, University of Houston confirms

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/education/article/uh-visa-revoked-math-professor-20277600.php
    ...Jeon's most recent curriculum vitae posted to the UH website showed that he was a postdoctoral scholar at Ohio State University from September 2022 to June 2024. He began teaching at UH in fall 2024, according to the resume.

    UH officials said they were not aware of other faculty affected by visa terminations.

    "Due to the unexpected termination of my visa – an issue that has recently impacted many international scholars – I must return to Korea immediately to resolve my immigration status," he wrote. "As a result, I will no longer be able to continue teaching."

    Universities are tracking the terminations in a federal database of international students and exchange visitors called SEVIS, which is managed by the Department of Homeland Security. The change means that they no longer have legal status, regardless of whether their visa was revoked. People with terminated records in the system are required to leave the U.S. immediately and not return, though some circumstances could provide them a grace period...
    This is exactly the same playbook as Doge with expenditure, isn't it?

    Find random reasons, make a list, chuck them out with no delay, no checking, no due process, no humanity, and no thought for the consequences; take America back 100 years.

    I was listening earlier to a Maga "intellectual" defending he assault on Harvard.

    The "reasoning" is characteristic.

    https://youtu.be/gSwMQXcvcoo?t=70
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,257
    algarkirk said:

    algarkirk said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    The title of the book is "Тихий Дон" so the correct translation of the title is (The) Quiet Don, with the definite article being implied by context.

    "And Quiet Flows the Don" was the title given a literary flourish by the publishers of Stephens' translation because they felt a western audience wouldn't know the Don was river and the title would make no sense. Hence the addition of "Flows".

    Has anyone taken up the challenge to write a masterpiece featuring the real River Don - the one which flows through legendary, romantic, remote and glittering Doncaster and on to the cloud capped palaces of Goole?
    Ahem.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Don,_Aberdeenshire

    Bit of classy classicism as well.

    'The river was recorded by the 2nd century AD cosmographer Ptolemy of Alexandria (d. c 168) as Δηουανα Devona,[1] meaning 'goddess', an indication the river was once a sacred one. Near Kintore, not distant from the Don, is the Deers Den Roman Camp.'
    That's a lot of rivers named after Mr Trump. It's like living in North Korea.
    Fittingly the mouth of the Aberdeen Don lies a couple of miles below his ghastly Trump International golf course. No one has had the courage to tell him that the river isn't named after him.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,317
    edited April 16
    DougSeal said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    Brick ovens are actually pretty simple tech. Adding capacity should be months, not years.

    That’s assuming we can get the 3000 page reports on nothing written in time.

    The biggest problem will be the high price of industrial electricity.
    We could demolish some buildings and recycle the bricks?
    That's done in many cases, particularly for old or historically/architecturally interesting bricks. I used to know a lady who worked for an architectural salvage firm who used to get very excited by old plug sockets, for some reason. I can understand light switches, which might be reusable, but old two-pin sockets?

    But cleaning mortar of bricks is not easy. You soon get fed up with the chisel and hammer.

    Edit: although I do like the idea of a architectural 'savage' firm...
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,290
    geoffw said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    I built a car port last year (no planning permission, lol). Mrs DA wanted a wooden one because she saw one on some bollocks TV program and liked it. The oak beams I used to make the roof trusses were 500 QUID each.

    Wood is expensive.
    Short supply. A huuge amount of oak went into rebuilding the roof of Notre Dame. Europe's forests, especially France's, may take a long while to recover. On iPlayer "Rebuilding Notre Dame" is quite an eye-opener, albeit presented by Lucy Worsley

    Never seen 'albeit' used to mean 'especially because' before.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,148
    algarkirk said:

    algarkirk said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    The title of the book is "Тихий Дон" so the correct translation of the title is (The) Quiet Don, with the definite article being implied by context.

    "And Quiet Flows the Don" was the title given a literary flourish by the publishers of Stephens' translation because they felt a western audience wouldn't know the Don was river and the title would make no sense. Hence the addition of "Flows".

    Has anyone taken up the challenge to write a masterpiece featuring the real River Don - the one which flows through legendary, romantic, remote and glittering Doncaster and on to the cloud capped palaces of Goole?
    Ahem.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Don,_Aberdeenshire

    Bit of classy classicism as well.

    'The river was recorded by the 2nd century AD cosmographer Ptolemy of Alexandria (d. c 168) as Δηουανα Devona,[1] meaning 'goddess', an indication the river was once a sacred one. Near Kintore, not distant from the Don, is the Deers Den Roman Camp.'
    That's a lot of rivers named after Mr Trump. It's like living in North Korea.
    That reminds me. Here's Harry Potter reset in North Korea:

    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdFxG1ob/
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,983

    Foxy said:



    Latest MIC leadership polling. Amongst 2024 Tory voters barely a third think Badenoch best PM. Farage next most popular, but surprising support for Starmer too.

    I suspect if the Tories replaced Badenoch with Honest Bobby J. we would see an exponential change between Ref and Con.
    I doubt it. The Conservatives' fundamental problems are:-
    • they have hardly any MPs left (about 120; they lost 250 MPs last July)
    • Boris purged a lot of the experienced ones
    • almost every criticism of Labour at PMQs can be knocked back by Starmer saying the Tories started it (whatever "it" is)
    None of that changes under Jenrick.
    Yes. An even more fundamental problem is that the old factions of the old Tory party - One Nation, professionals, blue collar, IEA types, populists, faith family flag etc - have grown apart that they cannot find a leader to cohere it all. Nor do they have a front bench of characters that are memorable or can talk like statesmen.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,096

    Foxy said:



    Latest MIC leadership polling. Amongst 2024 Tory voters barely a third think Badenoch best PM. Farage next most popular, but surprising support for Starmer too.

    I suspect if the Tories replaced Badenoch with Honest Bobby J. we would see an exponential change between Ref and Con.
    I doubt it. The Conservatives' fundamental problems are:-
    • they have hardly any MPs left (about 120; they lost 250 MPs last July)
    • Boris purged a lot of the experienced ones
    • almost every criticism of Labour at PMQs can be knocked back by Starmer saying the Tories started it (whatever "it" is)
    None of that changes under Jenrick.
    Although what is the point of Farage when the Tories have Honest Bob (although the opposite is equally applicable)?
    Farage offers NOTA. The old parties have failed, try my new panacea (see also Brexit). Jenrick personifies that history of failure – for Farage, for voters, and for Keir Starmer at PMQs.

    Jenrick's latest pronouncements are against Islamist gangs running prisons, which, as Starmer will remind everyone, started under the Conservatives, along with prison overcrowding, access to boiling oil and so on and so forth.

    Most damning of all, Jenrick is a Cambridge-educated lawyer.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,099

    MattW said:

    FT:

    "UK housebuilding risks being held up by brick shortage. Is wood the answer?"

    https://www.ft.com/content/29d81d8e-9299-4af2-9ca9-3d499eb2d13d

    Bricks have failed. Wood is expensive. Build houses out of STRAW.

    Is it's a short-term crisis, long-term option 1 or long-term option 2 is not much of an answer :smile: .

    IMO there's a fair bit of positional bollocks in that story. eg

    Timber construction has long been widely used in North America, Scandinavia and Scotland, but has struggled for traction in England — where houses are typically still built by hand out of bricks and blocks.

    In fact the timber frame share in England has been increasing over time. It is now moving towards 25%, and is up by about 10% in a decade - which is quite a change.
    I think most new Premier Inns are timberframed now. I remember doing a fire inspection visit in the Loughborough construction site years ago.
    I guess a modern timber frame hotel is just as safe (or not) as any other?

    We're currently getting a new flat door installed. Fire service/council have been doing a survey and we're told our current one will make excellent kindling.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,913
    edited April 16
    algarkirk said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    ydoethur said:

    I would like to thank last night's bot for having, quite fortuitously, given me a chance to flag up the awesome and subtle pun in the headline.

    The title of the book is "Тихий Дон" so the correct translation of the title is (The) Quiet Don, with the definite article being implied by context.

    "And Quiet Flows the Don" was the title given a literary flourish by the publishers of Stephens' translation because they felt a western audience wouldn't know the Don was river and the title would make no sense. Hence the addition of "Flows".

    Has anyone taken up the challenge to write a masterpiece featuring the real River Don - the one which flows through legendary, romantic, remote and glittering Doncaster and on to the cloud capped palaces of Goole?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08k4jyh

    Well worth a listen.

    Became a play called "The Cult of Water". And a (short!) book:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cult-Water-David-Bramwell-Fowler/dp/1912722720



    Also, more conventionally: Walter Scott - Ivanhoe, which opens with:


    In that pleasant district of merry England which is watered by
    the river Don, there extended in ancient times a large forest,
    covering the greater part of the beautiful hills and valleys
    which lie between Sheffield and the pleasant town of Doncaster.
    The remains of this extensive wood are still to be seen at the
    noble seats of Wentworth, of Warncliffe Park, and around
    Rotherham. Here haunted of yore the fabulous Dragon of Wantley;
    here were fought many of the most desperate battles during the
    Civil Wars of the Roses; and here also flourished in ancient
    times those bands of gallant outlaws, whose deeds have been
    rendered so popular in English song.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,319

    Foxy said:



    Latest MIC leadership polling. Amongst 2024 Tory voters barely a third think Badenoch best PM. Farage next most popular, but surprising support for Starmer too.

    I suspect if the Tories replaced Badenoch with Honest Bobby J. we would see an exponential change between Ref and Con.
    I doubt it. The Conservatives' fundamental problems are:-
    • they have hardly any MPs left (about 120; they lost 250 MPs last July)
    • Boris purged a lot of the experienced ones
    • almost every criticism of Labour at PMQs can be knocked back by Starmer saying the Tories started it (whatever "it" is)
    None of that changes under Jenrick.
    Although what is the point of Farage when the Tories have Honest Bob (although the opposite is equally applicable)?
    Farage offers NOTA. The old parties have failed, try my new panacea (see also Brexit). Jenrick personifies that history of failure – for Farage, for voters, and for Keir Starmer at PMQs.

    Jenrick's latest pronouncements are against Islamist gangs running prisons, which, as Starmer will remind everyone, started under the Conservatives, along with prison overcrowding, access to boiling oil and so on and so forth.

    Most damning of all, Jenrick is a Cambridge-educated lawyer.
    Jenrick would solve some problems for the Conservatives. He is undoubtedly less lazy than Badenoch, and has a surer finger on the pulse of what Conservative-inclined voters care about.

    Set against that, there's the whole Tawdry Bob thing.

    But the big issues would remain. He was part of the 2019-24 government, and that failed utterly. Farage wasn't. Furthermore, Nigel has started quality in a way that is in a different league.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,760
    https://x.com/keir_starmer/status/1912401098616324457

    No one wants to spend their Easter weekend stuck in traffic.

    So we're lifting more than a thousand miles of roadworks over Easter.

    And to save you money, we've frozen fuel duty and delivered record funding to fix potholes.

    Drivers — I'm on your side.
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