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  • eekeek Posts: 29,735

    Us Tories are against this Nationalisation. It’s dumb. Only happening because of election campaign.

    Results from the only poll that matters - PBers - had 25 voters and 22 in favour of Nationalising a bankrupt 2 furnace steel plant in Scunthorpe. Yet again PB has got it completely wrong and needs me to put you right - like PB take on Chagos being hopelessly ill informed till I put you right, and your arguments GE 24 would be later in 2024 not July 4th.

    If there is national interest nationalising the Scunthorpe steel plant, then there is an awful lot more much closer to the front of the Q for nationalising on same argument is countrys interest, that’s the truth Saturdays discussion slapped you around with, and an awful lot Q ing in same place equal argument to be nationalised too, not least other steel plants already converted to electric. It’s a no brainer nationalisation bad political and economic decision from any government, especially such a directionless soulless government showing its weakness when spooked by Farage in middle on an election campaign.

    The people charged over betting on 4th July election, what if they used the argument “I saw 4th July tipped on the worlds best political betting blog so had a little punt, how can I be accused of a crime?”
    Ok clever clogs - where will our virgin steel come from if we can’t make it ourselves and don’t say the USA or China and remember we may need some in a hurry at the exact same time other European countries need it for the same military reason
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,073
    Leon said:

    How can I be racist?!

    I’ve said more than once on this very thread that young Kakakh women are incredibly hot
    You lech.
  • Penddu2Penddu2 Posts: 754
    Leon said:

    Astana nee Nur Sultan might be the weirdest city I’ve ever been in

    Other contenders

    Sihanoukville
    The capital of Transnistria
    Odessa in wartime (if that counts)
    Mompox (if it’s a city)

    I recconend Ashgabat
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,550
    Penddu2 said:

    I recconend Ashgabat
    Seconded.
  • PhilPhil Posts: 2,607

    Its the Singapore model.

    Its the first thing I noticed when I got back from Asia, just how every f##king thing in London appears to be tagged. I can only imagine what people from Asia think.
    This is just another symptom of the combination of austerity, SEND & elder care gutting local authority budgets. There’s nothing left over to pay for even the smallest amount of care for local amenities.

    (Yes, yes,: austerity wasn’t real, government spending went up etc etc. It was real for local authorities - their budgets were cut nationwide & have never recovered.)
  • CollegeCollege Posts: 98
    edited April 14
    USD10K per year to each Greenlander after the anschluss? What a tight bastard!

    It might be more effective to pick 50 key individuals, including a sprinkling of Danes working in Nuuk on colonial placements, and give them USD10M in Switzerland or crypto if they sign up to the project and don't even think of fucking their handlers about.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,782

    You lech.
    Did I ever deny it??!

    It’s true tho. The mix of mongol, Turkic and Russian genes = 😶😬🤒

    It may be the hotties-est city per capita on earth. It rivals Odessa or Montenegro
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,782
    Penddu2 said:

    I recconend Ashgabat
    Ooooh. I’d love to go
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,483
    edited April 14
    Phil said:

    This is just another symptom of the combination of austerity, SEND & elder care gutting local authority budgets. There’s nothing left over to pay for even the smallest amount of care for local amenities.

    (Yes, yes,: austerity wasn’t real, government spending went up etc etc. It was real for local authorities - their budgets were cut nationwide & have never recovered.)
    However, if people didn't do it in the first place....there wouldn't be a problem.

    I went to Singapore, people don't drop trash or tag everything, so strangely they don't need armies of local government workers to tidy it all up after the dickheads. I went to the zoo in Singapore and a worker found a single piece of litter had been dropped by the end of the day, I watched them photograph and reported it to management (I wouldn't be surprised if the individual was reported for it).

    Tagging has definitely got a lot worse in the UK recently, it is everywhere.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,804
    Eabhal said:

    Which is fine when it's council housing, not so good when it's spending billions in housing benefits directly to private landlords.
    Well yes. I'd like to see a big expansion of council housing. It would help address several problems.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,073
    eek said:

    Ok clever clogs - where will our virgin steel come from if we can’t make it ourselves and don’t say the USA or China and remember we may need some in a hurry at the exact same time other European countries need it for the same military reason
    What you saying we will need Virgin steel for exactly? And what are you calling a hurry? And you can’t say warship building, as that ain’t happening in any hurry.

    I will say China. They make it cheaper than us despite transport. And they currently want to sell it to us - so if you know you will definitely need some, buy it cheap on the free market and set it aside,
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,154
    edited April 14

    Those lasses are doing vital work in testing the effects of zero gravity on cosmetic surgery.

    Actually Elon should be a pioneer in this field. Am I right that he hasn’t yet slipped the surly bonds of earth? If so, isn’t this a bit fannyish in someone aiming to be the supreme leader of Mars Colony?
    I liked the way they used one of Lauren Sanchez’s bras to slow down the capsule on its descent.


  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,262
    Some US states have had success in getting manufacturing jobs by paying for worker training. Two thoughts: I approve of this in principle, though I am skeptical about many other subsidies. Second, this should remind us that many modern factory jobs are complex enough to require significant amounts of training.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,550
    MattW said:

    Latest Trump cuts: Health Programmes for 9/11 victims.

    This affects cancer checks and treatment for eg Fire Fighters, having entered buildings containing significant amounts of asbestos.

    His Secretary of Commerce, Howard Lutnick, was at the top of Cantor-Fitzgerald.
    https://nycclc.org/news/trump-administration-guts-world-trade-center-health

    So much for those mug fireman stood beside Trump during the election camapign.

    Suckers and losers.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,483
    boulay said:

    I liked the way they used one of Lauren Sanchez’s bras to slow down the capsule on its descent.


    First fake tits in space?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,171
    Taz said:

    Nvidia plans to build up to $500 billion of AI infrastructure in the US in the next four years.

    A win for Trump, or the legacy of Biden’s administration

    https://x.com/kobeissiletter/status/1911767847652434089?s=61

    Both, probably.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,144
    eek said:

    Ok clever clogs - where will our virgin steel come from if we can’t make it ourselves and don’t say the USA or China and remember we may need some in a hurry at the exact same time other European countries need it for the same military reason
    Your total war scenario would also means you need to open, maintain and massively subsidise iron ore and coking coal mines. You'd need gigantic gas storage. We'd have to end all pastoral farming and start growing veg and oats or something.

    Autarkic thinking quickly becomes absurd. Much cheaper and easier to maintain and strengthen our trading relationships with a diverse set of countries, protected by a punchy Armed Forces.
  • CollegeCollege Posts: 98
    edited April 14
    Leon said:

    I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
    Caste zoning basically.

    They do this in Colombia. In fact they probably do it in many countries but on the quiet.
    Everyone in Colombia knows about it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class_in_Colombia#Official_strata_divisions
    kinabalu said:

    But it's a feature not a bug of London that you have council housing slap bang in desirable locations. It mixes things up as opposed to having sterile rich ghettos. Eg there's some near me. I often pass quite close to it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
    Is the plan for rich ghettos? Surely the Zone A types can go to all zones (e.g. posh kids can go hunting, cf. the Spartan crypteia), the Zone B-ers can go to all zones except Zone A, etc.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,296
    Leon said:

    Did I ever deny it??!

    It’s true tho. The mix of mongol, Turkic and Russian genes = 😶😬🤒

    It may be the hotties-est city per capita on earth. It rivals Odessa or Montenegro
    Flying into Geneva on Saturday there was a very beautiful blonde girl in the seat next to me. Early twenties, casually dressed, very posh and a couple of nose piercings. She had just come back from MaGill University in Canada on an exchange from Birmingham University, she was on her way to a ski resort on a University skiing trip. She was very chatty. I assumed I must have reminded her of her grandfather.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,359
    Leon said:

    Did I ever deny it??!

    It’s true tho. The mix of mongol, Turkic and Russian genes = 😶😬🤒

    It may be the hotties-est city per capita on earth. It rivals Odessa or Montenegro
    It was funny the other day, when you wrote a post from a new place and one of the first things you commented on was the beauty of the women.

    Then, a few hours later, you made comments about foreigners leching after girls in the UK.

    You are what you hate.
  • Penddu2Penddu2 Posts: 754
    edited April 14
    Test
  • Penddu2Penddu2 Posts: 754
    Leon said:

    Did I ever deny it??!

    It’s true tho. The mix of mongol, Turkic and Russian genes = 😶😬🤒

    It may be the hotties-est city per capita on earth. It rivals Odessa or Montenegro
    Seconded (maybe thirded)
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,804

    Leon appears to want some sort of class-based racism, where the richer you are, the more racist you get to be.
    Well racism is 'in' again now, isn't it. Vibe shift and all that. Thank you Donald.

    But I'm digging in and being more progressive than ever. The people I don't want to live near are Reform voters not migrants or asylum seekers.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,073
    Leon said:

    Did I ever deny it??!

    It’s true tho. The mix of mongol, Turkic and Russian genes = 😶😬🤒

    It may be the hotties-est city per capita on earth. It rivals Odessa or Montenegro
    The one on the left looks a lot like me!
    Except they all appear to be brunettes wholly into braids, plats and tight hair style I won’t be seen dead wearing.


  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,782

    However, if people didn't do it in the first place....there wouldn't be a problem.

    I went to Singapore, people don't drop trash or tag everything, so strangely they don't need armies of local government workers to tidy it all up after the dickheads. I went to the zoo in Singapore and a worker found a single piece of litter had been dropped by the end of the day, I watched them photograph and reported it to management (I wouldn't be surprised if the individual was reported for it).

    Tagging has definitely got a lot worse in the UK recently, it is everywhere.
    Yes. The idea this is all about money or austerity is fucking bollocks. Kazakh gdp per capita is about $12,000. They are mid income at best. A quarter of British per capita wealth

    Yet they keep their cities clean and they don’t spray graffiti everywhere. It’s western cultural decline - and a pathetic inability to enforce simple laws
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,038

    What you saying we will need Virgin steel for exactly? And what are you calling a hurry? And you can’t say warship building, as that ain’t happening in any hurry.

    I will say China. They make it cheaper than us despite transport. And they currently want to sell it to us - so if you know you will definitely need some, buy it cheap on the free market and set it aside,
    China could cut off that supply tomorrow if they wanted given they are not an ally.

    We need virgin steel for our railways as well as our warships
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,502
    College said:

    USD10K per year to each Greenlander after the anschluss? What a tight bastard!

    It might be more effective to pick 50 key individuals, including a sprinkling of Danes working in Nuuk on colonial placements, and give them USD10M in Switzerland or crypto if they sign up to the project and don't even think of fucking their handlers about.

    It's a pretty miserable offer. They could offer ten times that, and it would still be small change, to the US government.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,038
    edited April 14

    Us Tories are against this Nationalisation. It’s dumb. Only happening because of election campaign.

    Results from the only poll that matters - PBers - had 25 voters and 22 in favour of Nationalising a bankrupt 2 furnace steel plant in Scunthorpe. Yet again PB has got it completely wrong and needs me to put you right - like PB take on Chagos being hopelessly ill informed till I put you right, and your arguments GE 24 would be later in 2024 not July 4th.

    If there is national interest nationalising the Scunthorpe steel plant, then there is an awful lot more much closer to the front of the Q for nationalising on same argument is countrys interest, that’s the truth Saturdays discussion slapped you around with, and an awful lot Q ing in same place equal argument to be nationalised too, not least other steel plants already converted to electric. It’s a no brainer nationalisation bad political and economic decision from any government, especially such a directionless soulless government showing its weakness when spooked by Farage in middle on an election campaign.

    The people charged over betting on 4th July election, what if they used the argument “I saw 4th July tipped on the worlds best political betting blog so had a little punt, how can I be accused of a crime?”
    Even Kemi supported the move to nationalisation as a last resort to secure British virgin steel production.

    Pre Thatcher and post Attlee most raw material and energy and transport and the steel industry was nationalised even under Tory governments such as those of Macmillan and Heath (Heath nationalised Rolls Royce in 1971 too)
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,838
    kinabalu said:

    Well racism is 'in' again now, isn't it. Vibe shift and all that. Thank you Donald.

    But I'm digging in and being more progressive than ever. The people I don't want to live near are Reform voters not migrants or asylum seekers.
    This is the progress you're supporting:

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/migrant-hotel-reshaped-village-windsor-immigration-3x395lw9h

    Abhi is fed up with the racist abuse thrown at him on a daily basis while he works behind the counter in a small corner shop in Datchet, a mile and a half away from Windsor Castle.

    But the racism isn’t coming from far-right agitators or Middle England locals. It’s coming from some of the asylum seekers housed in the only hotel in the village, located on the banks of the River Thames, which would take the Prince and Princess of Wales just a ten-minute stroll to reach from their home at Adelaide Cottage.

    “They abuse me because I’m from India and I’m Hindu,” says Abhi, a 24-year-old who has lived in the UK legally for several years.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,287
    Leon said:

    How can I be racist?!

    I’ve said more than once on this very thread that young Kakakh women are incredibly hot
    I was thinking the other day that the word "sexist" seems to have fallen into disuse.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,319

    Us Tories are against this Nationalisation. It’s dumb. Only happening because of election campaign.

    Results from the only poll that matters - PBers - had 25 voters and 22 in favour of Nationalising a bankrupt 2 furnace steel plant in Scunthorpe. Yet again PB has got it completely wrong and needs me to put you right - like PB take on Chagos being hopelessly ill informed till I put you right, and your arguments GE 24 would be later in 2024 not July 4th.

    If there is national interest nationalising the Scunthorpe steel plant, then there is an awful lot more much closer to the front of the Q for nationalising on same argument is countrys interest, that’s the truth Saturdays discussion slapped you around with, and an awful lot Q ing in same place equal argument to be nationalised too, not least other steel plants already converted to electric. It’s a no brainer nationalisation bad political and economic decision from any government, especially such a directionless soulless government showing its weakness when spooked by Farage in middle on an election campaign.

    The people charged over betting on 4th July election, what if they used the argument “I saw 4th July tipped on the worlds best political betting blog so had a little punt, how can I be accused of a crime?”
    You should do a podcast. It could be called 'The Rest is Incomprehensible Fucking Shit'.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,664

    NEW THREAD

  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,287

    Leon appears to want some sort of class-based racism, where the richer you are, the more racist you get to be.
    It's more a case that the racism of the rich differs from the racism of the working-class. The former is more acceptable in polite society, or what passes for "polite society" in 2025.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,384
    HYUFD said:

    China could cut off that supply tomorrow if they wanted given they are not an ally.

    We need virgin steel for our railways as well as our warships
    Why?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,782
    Sean_F said:

    It's a pretty miserable offer. They could offer ten times that, and it would still be small change, to the US government.
    Nonsense. If this is $10k per annum in perpetuity it’s huge - I imagine 97% of humans would happily become American for that offer

    But the details are vague. If it is just a one off payment of $10k it is indeed paltry

    However it being reported as Ten K “per year per person”
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,499
    rcs1000 said:

    Why?
    Because it's nicer
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,319
    kinabalu said:

    Well racism is 'in' again now, isn't it. Vibe shift and all that. Thank you Donald.

    But I'm digging in and being more progressive than ever. The people I don't want to live near are Reform voters not migrants or asylum seekers.
    The Channel Crossers are unlikely to ever vote tory/Fukker (once they get their Brexit Bus Pass passports) so let's have as many as possible.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,287
    College said:

    USD10K per year to each Greenlander after the anschluss? What a tight bastard!

    It might be more effective to pick 50 key individuals, including a sprinkling of Danes working in Nuuk on colonial placements, and give them USD10M in Switzerland or crypto if they sign up to the project and don't even think of fucking their handlers about.

    He should make it simple. Say to each Greenlander adult: "Here is $1 million dollars. Now leave the country". They'd take it.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,038
    HYUFD said:

    Even Kemi supported the move to nationalisation as a last resort to secure British virgin steel production.

    Pre Thatcher and post Attlee most raw material and energy and transport and the steel industry was nationalised even under Tory governments such as those of Macmillan and Heath (Heath nationalised Rolls Royce in 1971 too)
    Macmillan of course said Thatcher's privatisations were like 'selling off the family silver.'

    Thatcher was more of a free market liberal in the Gladstone mode than a patrician One Nation old style Tory
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,073
    edited April 14
    HYUFD said:

    China could cut off that supply tomorrow if they wanted given they are not an ally.

    We need virgin steel for our railways as well as our warships
    You can get it cheaper elsewhere easy enough! You know most government projects use imported steel, UK government does not buy steel from British workers becuase it is too expensive to allow projects to be viable?

    Don’t believe the nations interest hype, they are conning you.
    Simple question for you to answer, why is this “must nationalise a steel works in Reform/Labour battleground” answer only happening right now in this election campaign and “it’s national security” didn’t exist at all over the last 45 years, never heard a peep out of it till farage stood amongst Scunthorpe voters last week and said “must protect your jobs in the nations interest”.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,038
    rcs1000 said:

    Why?
    National security for starters
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,287

    The one on the left looks a lot like me!
    Except they all appear to be brunettes wholly into braids, plats and tight hair style I won’t be seen dead wearing.


    I thought you were a moonrabbit, @MoonRabbit ! I am oddly disappointed. :(
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,073
    Dura_Ace said:

    You should do a podcast. It could be called 'The Rest is Incomprehensible Fucking Shit'.
    I must thank you for your support on this one. 👍🏻
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,688

    This is the progress you're supporting:

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/migrant-hotel-reshaped-village-windsor-immigration-3x395lw9h

    Abhi is fed up with the racist abuse thrown at him on a daily basis while he works behind the counter in a small corner shop in Datchet, a mile and a half away from Windsor Castle.

    But the racism isn’t coming from far-right agitators or Middle England locals. It’s coming from some of the asylum seekers housed in the only hotel in the village, located on the banks of the River Thames, which would take the Prince and Princess of Wales just a ten-minute stroll to reach from their home at Adelaide Cottage.

    “They abuse me because I’m from India and I’m Hindu,” says Abhi, a 24-year-old who has lived in the UK legally for several years.
    If you cared about racist abuse, William, you'd have to stop following half the Twitter accounts you currently do.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,240

    You can get it cheaper elsewhere easy enough! You know most government projects use imported steel, UK government does not buy steel from British workers becuase it is too expensive to allow projects to be viable?

    Don’t believe the nations interest hype, they are conning you.
    Simple question for you to answer, why is this “must nationalise a steel works in Reform/Labour battleground” answer only happening right now in this election campaign and “it’s national security” didn’t exist at all over the last 45 years, never heard a peep out of it till farage stood amongst Scunthorpe voters last week and said “must protect your jobs in the nations interest”.
    I think it quite easy to make the case that the risks to Britain's security have significantly grown in the last few months.

    That said, as we need to import both the coking coal and the iron ore, then how is that strategically safer than importing steel in the first place?
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