Why are the government being so weird about delivery of new supplies for the blast furnace? The morning round of media was this weird i can't tell you nothing about the delivery, commercially sensitive. Its coal, not gold bars or nuclear warheads.
If the blast furnaces stop burning, irreparable (well very expensive and time consuming to repair) damage is done. Isn't the argument today that the Chinese have sabotaged the furnaces?
Kemi's idea of replacing them with electric arc furnaces is not a great one mind. I am at the Tata Port Talbot site once a month and the whole place is like the Marie Celeste. The arc furnaces will not be operational there for years.
That wasn't my point that is a separate issue.
I was wondering why they are being weird about saying when / where the delivery is coming from. You would think having taken action, they would want to reassure we now have the situation under control, coal will arrive in x days, etc.
It is also the confusing take of today they continued to say even if we do nationalise it, we are going to look to offload it ASAP to a private entity but no Chinese companies allowed. But we know nobody wanted it last time.
I really don't understand why they don't just say we are going to nationalise it, it is the only way forward and it is vital for national security.
Since when have you Tories been pro nationalisation? You'll be asking for Thames Water to be nationalised next.
I don't know how many times you keep up with this rubbish that I am a Tory, despite being told time and time again otherwise.
Us Tories are against this Nationalisation. It’s dumb. Only happening because of election campaign.
Results from the only poll that matters - PBers - had 25 voters and 22 in favour of Nationalising a bankrupt 2 furnace steel plant in Scunthorpe. Yet again PB has got it completely wrong and needs me to put you right - like PB take on Chagos being hopelessly ill informed till I put you right, and your arguments GE 24 would be later in 2024 not July 4th.
If there is national interest nationalising the Scunthorpe steel plant, then there is an awful lot more much closer to the front of the Q for nationalising on same argument is countrys interest, that’s the truth Saturdays discussion slapped you around with, and an awful lot Q ing in same place equal argument to be nationalised too, not least other steel plants already converted to electric. It’s a no brainer nationalisation bad political and economic decision from any government, especially such a directionless soulless government showing its weakness when spooked by Farage in middle on an election campaign.
The people charged over betting on 4th July election, what if they used the argument “I saw 4th July tipped on the worlds best political betting blog so had a little punt, how can I be accused of a crime?”
Ok clever clogs - where will our virgin steel come from if we can’t make it ourselves and don’t say the USA or China and remember we may need some in a hurry at the exact same time other European countries need it for the same military reason
I see the rate of boat people arriving is up year on year. A headache that won't go away for the government and of course the system is so jammed up will continue to require loads of hotel rooms for many years to come.
It’s gonna explode. Powder keg awaits matchstick
There is another problem with migrant hotels. Sooner or later Nigel Farage will notice that either more money is paid to house homeless migrants than homeless Britons, or Angela Rayner's new houses are given straight to the migrants to get them out of the hotels.
Decades ago, this inflamed racial tensions in London. New council estates were handed over to immigrants and not locals on the waiting list. Nothing to do with woke, but simply need – immigrant families (the clue is in the name) had more children than native newly-married couples, so had higher priority.
Evidence: there’s a large Somalian family recently moved in to a council house down the road from me in NW1. Three or four kids. Whole house. They’re obviously not rich judging by the father’s car
I wish them well of course and have no idea of their true circumstances - is there a disabled granny as well? Etc. But I can’t help noticing they are living in an extremely desirable london townhouse probably worth £2-3m on the open market. Next to Regent’s Park
Judging by their faltering English they are recent migrants to the UK
As I say, I wish them the best. But you can see how the perception of this would drive some people mad - and is catnip to any would be nativist demagogue
It'd be interesting to know where a 'would-be nativist demagogue' would want them to live.
Do we have any on here we can ask?
I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
I believe the Tories brought in a law - or were about to - somewhat to this effect? Then Starmer cancelled it ASAFP
It’s like Labour all secretly want Farage to win in 2029
But it's a feature not a bug of London that you have council housing slap bang in desirable locations. It mixes things up as opposed to having sterile rich ghettos. Eg there's some near me. I often pass quite close to it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Leon appears to want some sort of class-based racism, where the richer you are, the more racist you get to be.
How can I be racist?!
I’ve said more than once on this very thread that young Kakakh women are incredibly hot
Wandering around Central Asia these last weeks, one thing I’ve noticed. Kids. Everywhere. Billions of them. Babies in planes. Pushchairs in lifts. School kids laughing in streets. Young people!
It can be a tad annoying but also very heartening. How is Central Asia avoiding birth rate collapse? Because it really is - a startling outlier
Answers on a Mother’s Day card, please
Nought much else to on an evening?
Nope. Not that. They all have phones and laptops and iPads like the rest of us. They also have big cities with bars like Almaty and Astana
Here’s another anomaly. No litter - or almost none. And no graffiti. Not sure I’ve seen a single piece of graffiti since arriving. There are also signs everywhere warning you not to litter - and warnings about fines - and the fines are enforced (so I am told)
So it can be done. We just pathetically lack the will in the west. Start nicking people for littering - and make it HURT - and it stops
Its the Singapore model.
Its the first thing I noticed when I got back from Asia, just how every f##king thing in London appears to be tagged. I can only imagine what people from Asia think.
This is just another symptom of the combination of austerity, SEND & elder care gutting local authority budgets. There’s nothing left over to pay for even the smallest amount of care for local amenities.
(Yes, yes,: austerity wasn’t real, government spending went up etc etc. It was real for local authorities - their budgets were cut nationwide & have never recovered.)
USD10K per year to each Greenlander after the anschluss? What a tight bastard!
It might be more effective to pick 50 key individuals, including a sprinkling of Danes working in Nuuk on colonial placements, and give them USD10M in Switzerland or crypto if they sign up to the project and don't even think of fucking their handlers about.
I see the rate of boat people arriving is up year on year. A headache that won't go away for the government and of course the system is so jammed up will continue to require loads of hotel rooms for many years to come.
It’s gonna explode. Powder keg awaits matchstick
There is another problem with migrant hotels. Sooner or later Nigel Farage will notice that either more money is paid to house homeless migrants than homeless Britons, or Angela Rayner's new houses are given straight to the migrants to get them out of the hotels.
Decades ago, this inflamed racial tensions in London. New council estates were handed over to immigrants and not locals on the waiting list. Nothing to do with woke, but simply need – immigrant families (the clue is in the name) had more children than native newly-married couples, so had higher priority.
Evidence: there’s a large Somalian family recently moved in to a council house down the road from me in NW1. Three or four kids. Whole house. They’re obviously not rich judging by the father’s car
I wish them well of course and have no idea of their true circumstances - is there a disabled granny as well? Etc. But I can’t help noticing they are living in an extremely desirable london townhouse probably worth £2-3m on the open market. Next to Regent’s Park
Judging by their faltering English they are recent migrants to the UK
As I say, I wish them the best. But you can see how the perception of this would drive some people mad - and is catnip to any would be nativist demagogue
It'd be interesting to know where a 'would-be nativist demagogue' would want them to live.
Do we have any on here we can ask?
I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
I believe the Tories brought in a law - or were about to - somewhat to this effect? Then Starmer cancelled it ASAFP
It’s like Labour all secretly want Farage to win in 2029
But it's a feature not a bug of London that you have council housing slap bang in desirable locations. It mixes things up as opposed to having sterile rich ghettos. Eg there's some near me. I often pass quite close to it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Leon appears to want some sort of class-based racism, where the richer you are, the more racist you get to be.
How can I be racist?!
I’ve said more than once on this very thread that young Kakakh women are incredibly hot
You lech.
Did I ever deny it??!
It’s true tho. The mix of mongol, Turkic and Russian genes = 😶😬🤒
It may be the hotties-est city per capita on earth. It rivals Odessa or Montenegro
Wandering around Central Asia these last weeks, one thing I’ve noticed. Kids. Everywhere. Billions of them. Babies in planes. Pushchairs in lifts. School kids laughing in streets. Young people!
It can be a tad annoying but also very heartening. How is Central Asia avoiding birth rate collapse? Because it really is - a startling outlier
Answers on a Mother’s Day card, please
Nought much else to on an evening?
Nope. Not that. They all have phones and laptops and iPads like the rest of us. They also have big cities with bars like Almaty and Astana
Here’s another anomaly. No litter - or almost none. And no graffiti. Not sure I’ve seen a single piece of graffiti since arriving. There are also signs everywhere warning you not to litter - and warnings about fines - and the fines are enforced (so I am told)
So it can be done. We just pathetically lack the will in the west. Start nicking people for littering - and make it HURT - and it stops
Its the Singapore model.
Its the first thing I noticed when I got back from Asia, just how every f##king thing in London appears to be tagged. I can only imagine what people from Asia think.
This is just another symptom of the combination of austerity, SEND & elder care gutting local authority budgets. There’s nothing left over to pay for even the smallest amount of care for local amenities.
(Yes, yes,: austerity wasn’t real, government spending went up etc etc. It was real for local authorities - their budgets were cut nationwide & have never recovered.)
However, if people didn't do it in the first place....there wouldn't be a problem.
I went to Singapore, people don't drop trash or tag everything, so strangely they don't need armies of local government workers to tidy it all up after the dickheads. I went to the zoo in Singapore and a worker found a single piece of litter had been dropped by the end of the day, I watched them photograph and reported it to management (I wouldn't be surprised if the individual was reported for it).
Tagging has definitely got a lot worse in the UK recently, it is everywhere.
I see the rate of boat people arriving is up year on year. A headache that won't go away for the government and of course the system is so jammed up will continue to require loads of hotel rooms for many years to come.
It’s gonna explode. Powder keg awaits matchstick
There is another problem with migrant hotels. Sooner or later Nigel Farage will notice that either more money is paid to house homeless migrants than homeless Britons, or Angela Rayner's new houses are given straight to the migrants to get them out of the hotels.
Decades ago, this inflamed racial tensions in London. New council estates were handed over to immigrants and not locals on the waiting list. Nothing to do with woke, but simply need – immigrant families (the clue is in the name) had more children than native newly-married couples, so had higher priority.
Evidence: there’s a large Somalian family recently moved in to a council house down the road from me in NW1. Three or four kids. Whole house. They’re obviously not rich judging by the father’s car
I wish them well of course and have no idea of their true circumstances - is there a disabled granny as well? Etc. But I can’t help noticing they are living in an extremely desirable london townhouse probably worth £2-3m on the open market. Next to Regent’s Park
Judging by their faltering English they are recent migrants to the UK
As I say, I wish them the best. But you can see how the perception of this would drive some people mad - and is catnip to any would be nativist demagogue
It'd be interesting to know where a 'would-be nativist demagogue' would want them to live.
Do we have any on here we can ask?
I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
I believe the Tories brought in a law - or were about to - somewhat to this effect? Then Starmer cancelled it ASAFP
It’s like Labour all secretly want Farage to win in 2029
But it's a feature not a bug of London that you have council housing slap bang in desirable locations. It mixes things up as opposed to having sterile rich ghettos. Eg there's some near me. I often pass quite close to it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Which is fine when it's council housing, not so good when it's spending billions in housing benefits directly to private landlords.
Well yes. I'd like to see a big expansion of council housing. It would help address several problems.
Why are the government being so weird about delivery of new supplies for the blast furnace? The morning round of media was this weird i can't tell you nothing about the delivery, commercially sensitive. Its coal, not gold bars or nuclear warheads.
If the blast furnaces stop burning, irreparable (well very expensive and time consuming to repair) damage is done. Isn't the argument today that the Chinese have sabotaged the furnaces?
Kemi's idea of replacing them with electric arc furnaces is not a great one mind. I am at the Tata Port Talbot site once a month and the whole place is like the Marie Celeste. The arc furnaces will not be operational there for years.
That wasn't my point that is a separate issue.
I was wondering why they are being weird about saying when / where the delivery is coming from. You would think having taken action, they would want to reassure we now have the situation under control, coal will arrive in x days, etc.
It is also the confusing take of today they continued to say even if we do nationalise it, we are going to look to offload it ASAP to a private entity but no Chinese companies allowed. But we know nobody wanted it last time.
I really don't understand why they don't just say we are going to nationalise it, it is the only way forward and it is vital for national security.
Since when have you Tories been pro nationalisation? You'll be asking for Thames Water to be nationalised next.
I don't know how many times you keep up with this rubbish that I am a Tory, despite being told time and time again otherwise.
Us Tories are against this Nationalisation. It’s dumb. Only happening because of election campaign.
Results from the only poll that matters - PBers - had 25 voters and 22 in favour of Nationalising a bankrupt 2 furnace steel plant in Scunthorpe. Yet again PB has got it completely wrong and needs me to put you right - like PB take on Chagos being hopelessly ill informed till I put you right, and your arguments GE 24 would be later in 2024 not July 4th.
If there is national interest nationalising the Scunthorpe steel plant, then there is an awful lot more much closer to the front of the Q for nationalising on same argument is countrys interest, that’s the truth Saturdays discussion slapped you around with, and an awful lot Q ing in same place equal argument to be nationalised too, not least other steel plants already converted to electric. It’s a no brainer nationalisation bad political and economic decision from any government, especially such a directionless soulless government showing its weakness when spooked by Farage in middle on an election campaign.
The people charged over betting on 4th July election, what if they used the argument “I saw 4th July tipped on the worlds best political betting blog so had a little punt, how can I be accused of a crime?”
Ok clever clogs - where will our virgin steel come from if we can’t make it ourselves and don’t say the USA or China and remember we may need some in a hurry at the exact same time other European countries need it for the same military reason
What you saying we will need Virgin steel for exactly? And what are you calling a hurry? And you can’t say warship building, as that ain’t happening in any hurry.
I will say China. They make it cheaper than us despite transport. And they currently want to sell it to us - so if you know you will definitely need some, buy it cheap on the free market and set it aside,
What a despicable thing to do . Why aren’t the US media all over this ?
The Us media are a little bit busy right now covering the Ass-tronauts all-girls space extravaganza so give them a break, they will get round to minor stuff once the post space trip interviews are over.
Those lasses are doing vital work in testing the effects of zero gravity on cosmetic surgery.
Actually Elon should be a pioneer in this field. Am I right that he hasn’t yet slipped the surly bonds of earth? If so, isn’t this a bit fannyish in someone aiming to be the supreme leader of Mars Colony?
I liked the way they used one of Lauren Sanchez’s bras to slow down the capsule on its descent.
Some US states have had success in getting manufacturing jobs by paying for worker training. Two thoughts: I approve of this in principle, though I am skeptical about many other subsidies. Second, this should remind us that many modern factory jobs are complex enough to require significant amounts of training.
What a despicable thing to do . Why aren’t the US media all over this ?
The Us media are a little bit busy right now covering the Ass-tronauts all-girls space extravaganza so give them a break, they will get round to minor stuff once the post space trip interviews are over.
Those lasses are doing vital work in testing the effects of zero gravity on cosmetic surgery.
Actually Elon should be a pioneer in this field. Am I right that he hasn’t yet slipped the surly bonds of earth? If so, isn’t this a bit fannyish in someone aiming to be the supreme leader of Mars Colony?
I liked the way they used one of Lauren Sanchez’s bras to slow down the capsule on its descent.
Why are the government being so weird about delivery of new supplies for the blast furnace? The morning round of media was this weird i can't tell you nothing about the delivery, commercially sensitive. Its coal, not gold bars or nuclear warheads.
If the blast furnaces stop burning, irreparable (well very expensive and time consuming to repair) damage is done. Isn't the argument today that the Chinese have sabotaged the furnaces?
Kemi's idea of replacing them with electric arc furnaces is not a great one mind. I am at the Tata Port Talbot site once a month and the whole place is like the Marie Celeste. The arc furnaces will not be operational there for years.
That wasn't my point that is a separate issue.
I was wondering why they are being weird about saying when / where the delivery is coming from. You would think having taken action, they would want to reassure we now have the situation under control, coal will arrive in x days, etc.
It is also the confusing take of today they continued to say even if we do nationalise it, we are going to look to offload it ASAP to a private entity but no Chinese companies allowed. But we know nobody wanted it last time.
I really don't understand why they don't just say we are going to nationalise it, it is the only way forward and it is vital for national security.
Since when have you Tories been pro nationalisation? You'll be asking for Thames Water to be nationalised next.
I don't know how many times you keep up with this rubbish that I am a Tory, despite being told time and time again otherwise.
Us Tories are against this Nationalisation. It’s dumb. Only happening because of election campaign.
Results from the only poll that matters - PBers - had 25 voters and 22 in favour of Nationalising a bankrupt 2 furnace steel plant in Scunthorpe. Yet again PB has got it completely wrong and needs me to put you right - like PB take on Chagos being hopelessly ill informed till I put you right, and your arguments GE 24 would be later in 2024 not July 4th.
If there is national interest nationalising the Scunthorpe steel plant, then there is an awful lot more much closer to the front of the Q for nationalising on same argument is countrys interest, that’s the truth Saturdays discussion slapped you around with, and an awful lot Q ing in same place equal argument to be nationalised too, not least other steel plants already converted to electric. It’s a no brainer nationalisation bad political and economic decision from any government, especially such a directionless soulless government showing its weakness when spooked by Farage in middle on an election campaign.
The people charged over betting on 4th July election, what if they used the argument “I saw 4th July tipped on the worlds best political betting blog so had a little punt, how can I be accused of a crime?”
Ok clever clogs - where will our virgin steel come from if we can’t make it ourselves and don’t say the USA or China and remember we may need some in a hurry at the exact same time other European countries need it for the same military reason
Your total war scenario would also means you need to open, maintain and massively subsidise iron ore and coking coal mines. You'd need gigantic gas storage. We'd have to end all pastoral farming and start growing veg and oats or something.
Autarkic thinking quickly becomes absurd. Much cheaper and easier to maintain and strengthen our trading relationships with a diverse set of countries, protected by a punchy Armed Forces.
I see the rate of boat people arriving is up year on year. A headache that won't go away for the government and of course the system is so jammed up will continue to require loads of hotel rooms for many years to come.
It’s gonna explode. Powder keg awaits matchstick
There is another problem with migrant hotels. Sooner or later Nigel Farage will notice that either more money is paid to house homeless migrants than homeless Britons, or Angela Rayner's new houses are given straight to the migrants to get them out of the hotels.
Decades ago, this inflamed racial tensions in London. New council estates were handed over to immigrants and not locals on the waiting list. Nothing to do with woke, but simply need – immigrant families (the clue is in the name) had more children than native newly-married couples, so had higher priority.
Evidence: there’s a large Somalian family recently moved in to a council house down the road from me in NW1. Three or four kids. Whole house. They’re obviously not rich judging by the father’s car
I wish them well of course and have no idea of their true circumstances - is there a disabled granny as well? Etc. But I can’t help noticing they are living in an extremely desirable london townhouse probably worth £2-3m on the open market. Next to Regent’s Park
Judging by their faltering English they are recent migrants to the UK
As I say, I wish them the best. But you can see how the perception of this would drive some people mad - and is catnip to any would be nativist demagogue
It'd be interesting to know where a 'would-be nativist demagogue' would want them to live.
Do we have any on here we can ask?
I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
Caste zoning basically.
They do this in Colombia. In fact they probably do it in many countries but on the quiet. Everyone in Colombia knows about it.
I see the rate of boat people arriving is up year on year. A headache that won't go away for the government and of course the system is so jammed up will continue to require loads of hotel rooms for many years to come.
It’s gonna explode. Powder keg awaits matchstick
There is another problem with migrant hotels. Sooner or later Nigel Farage will notice that either more money is paid to house homeless migrants than homeless Britons, or Angela Rayner's new houses are given straight to the migrants to get them out of the hotels.
Decades ago, this inflamed racial tensions in London. New council estates were handed over to immigrants and not locals on the waiting list. Nothing to do with woke, but simply need – immigrant families (the clue is in the name) had more children than native newly-married couples, so had higher priority.
Evidence: there’s a large Somalian family recently moved in to a council house down the road from me in NW1. Three or four kids. Whole house. They’re obviously not rich judging by the father’s car
I wish them well of course and have no idea of their true circumstances - is there a disabled granny as well? Etc. But I can’t help noticing they are living in an extremely desirable london townhouse probably worth £2-3m on the open market. Next to Regent’s Park
Judging by their faltering English they are recent migrants to the UK
As I say, I wish them the best. But you can see how the perception of this would drive some people mad - and is catnip to any would be nativist demagogue
It'd be interesting to know where a 'would-be nativist demagogue' would want them to live.
Do we have any on here we can ask?
I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
I believe the Tories brought in a law - or were about to - somewhat to this effect? Then Starmer cancelled it ASAFP
It’s like Labour all secretly want Farage to win in 2029
But it's a feature not a bug of London that you have council housing slap bang in desirable locations. It mixes things up as opposed to having sterile rich ghettos. Eg there's some near me. I often pass quite close to it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Is the plan for rich ghettos? Surely the Zone A types can go to all zones (e.g. posh kids can go hunting, cf. the Spartan crypteia), the Zone B-ers can go to all zones except Zone A, etc.
I see the rate of boat people arriving is up year on year. A headache that won't go away for the government and of course the system is so jammed up will continue to require loads of hotel rooms for many years to come.
It’s gonna explode. Powder keg awaits matchstick
There is another problem with migrant hotels. Sooner or later Nigel Farage will notice that either more money is paid to house homeless migrants than homeless Britons, or Angela Rayner's new houses are given straight to the migrants to get them out of the hotels.
Decades ago, this inflamed racial tensions in London. New council estates were handed over to immigrants and not locals on the waiting list. Nothing to do with woke, but simply need – immigrant families (the clue is in the name) had more children than native newly-married couples, so had higher priority.
Evidence: there’s a large Somalian family recently moved in to a council house down the road from me in NW1. Three or four kids. Whole house. They’re obviously not rich judging by the father’s car
I wish them well of course and have no idea of their true circumstances - is there a disabled granny as well? Etc. But I can’t help noticing they are living in an extremely desirable london townhouse probably worth £2-3m on the open market. Next to Regent’s Park
Judging by their faltering English they are recent migrants to the UK
As I say, I wish them the best. But you can see how the perception of this would drive some people mad - and is catnip to any would be nativist demagogue
It'd be interesting to know where a 'would-be nativist demagogue' would want them to live.
Do we have any on here we can ask?
I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
I believe the Tories brought in a law - or were about to - somewhat to this effect? Then Starmer cancelled it ASAFP
It’s like Labour all secretly want Farage to win in 2029
But it's a feature not a bug of London that you have council housing slap bang in desirable locations. It mixes things up as opposed to having sterile rich ghettos. Eg there's some near me. I often pass quite close to it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Leon appears to want some sort of class-based racism, where the richer you are, the more racist you get to be.
How can I be racist?!
I’ve said more than once on this very thread that young Kakakh women are incredibly hot
You lech.
Did I ever deny it??!
It’s true tho. The mix of mongol, Turkic and Russian genes = 😶😬🤒
It may be the hotties-est city per capita on earth. It rivals Odessa or Montenegro
Flying into Geneva on Saturday there was a very beautiful blonde girl in the seat next to me. Early twenties, casually dressed, very posh and a couple of nose piercings. She had just come back from MaGill University in Canada on an exchange from Birmingham University, she was on her way to a ski resort on a University skiing trip. She was very chatty. I assumed I must have reminded her of her grandfather.
I see the rate of boat people arriving is up year on year. A headache that won't go away for the government and of course the system is so jammed up will continue to require loads of hotel rooms for many years to come.
It’s gonna explode. Powder keg awaits matchstick
There is another problem with migrant hotels. Sooner or later Nigel Farage will notice that either more money is paid to house homeless migrants than homeless Britons, or Angela Rayner's new houses are given straight to the migrants to get them out of the hotels.
Decades ago, this inflamed racial tensions in London. New council estates were handed over to immigrants and not locals on the waiting list. Nothing to do with woke, but simply need – immigrant families (the clue is in the name) had more children than native newly-married couples, so had higher priority.
Evidence: there’s a large Somalian family recently moved in to a council house down the road from me in NW1. Three or four kids. Whole house. They’re obviously not rich judging by the father’s car
I wish them well of course and have no idea of their true circumstances - is there a disabled granny as well? Etc. But I can’t help noticing they are living in an extremely desirable london townhouse probably worth £2-3m on the open market. Next to Regent’s Park
Judging by their faltering English they are recent migrants to the UK
As I say, I wish them the best. But you can see how the perception of this would drive some people mad - and is catnip to any would be nativist demagogue
It'd be interesting to know where a 'would-be nativist demagogue' would want them to live.
Do we have any on here we can ask?
I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
I believe the Tories brought in a law - or were about to - somewhat to this effect? Then Starmer cancelled it ASAFP
It’s like Labour all secretly want Farage to win in 2029
But it's a feature not a bug of London that you have council housing slap bang in desirable locations. It mixes things up as opposed to having sterile rich ghettos. Eg there's some near me. I often pass quite close to it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Leon appears to want some sort of class-based racism, where the richer you are, the more racist you get to be.
How can I be racist?!
I’ve said more than once on this very thread that young Kakakh women are incredibly hot
You lech.
Did I ever deny it??!
It’s true tho. The mix of mongol, Turkic and Russian genes = 😶😬🤒
It may be the hotties-est city per capita on earth. It rivals Odessa or Montenegro
It was funny the other day, when you wrote a post from a new place and one of the first things you commented on was the beauty of the women.
Then, a few hours later, you made comments about foreigners leching after girls in the UK.
I see the rate of boat people arriving is up year on year. A headache that won't go away for the government and of course the system is so jammed up will continue to require loads of hotel rooms for many years to come.
It’s gonna explode. Powder keg awaits matchstick
There is another problem with migrant hotels. Sooner or later Nigel Farage will notice that either more money is paid to house homeless migrants than homeless Britons, or Angela Rayner's new houses are given straight to the migrants to get them out of the hotels.
Decades ago, this inflamed racial tensions in London. New council estates were handed over to immigrants and not locals on the waiting list. Nothing to do with woke, but simply need – immigrant families (the clue is in the name) had more children than native newly-married couples, so had higher priority.
Evidence: there’s a large Somalian family recently moved in to a council house down the road from me in NW1. Three or four kids. Whole house. They’re obviously not rich judging by the father’s car
I wish them well of course and have no idea of their true circumstances - is there a disabled granny as well? Etc. But I can’t help noticing they are living in an extremely desirable london townhouse probably worth £2-3m on the open market. Next to Regent’s Park
Judging by their faltering English they are recent migrants to the UK
As I say, I wish them the best. But you can see how the perception of this would drive some people mad - and is catnip to any would be nativist demagogue
It'd be interesting to know where a 'would-be nativist demagogue' would want them to live.
Do we have any on here we can ask?
I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
I believe the Tories brought in a law - or were about to - somewhat to this effect? Then Starmer cancelled it ASAFP
It’s like Labour all secretly want Farage to win in 2029
But it's a feature not a bug of London that you have council housing slap bang in desirable locations. It mixes things up as opposed to having sterile rich ghettos. Eg there's some near me. I often pass quite close to it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Leon appears to want some sort of class-based racism, where the richer you are, the more racist you get to be.
How can I be racist?!
I’ve said more than once on this very thread that young Kakakh women are incredibly hot
You lech.
Did I ever deny it??!
It’s true tho. The mix of mongol, Turkic and Russian genes = 😶😬🤒
It may be the hotties-est city per capita on earth. It rivals Odessa or Montenegro
I see the rate of boat people arriving is up year on year. A headache that won't go away for the government and of course the system is so jammed up will continue to require loads of hotel rooms for many years to come.
It’s gonna explode. Powder keg awaits matchstick
There is another problem with migrant hotels. Sooner or later Nigel Farage will notice that either more money is paid to house homeless migrants than homeless Britons, or Angela Rayner's new houses are given straight to the migrants to get them out of the hotels.
Decades ago, this inflamed racial tensions in London. New council estates were handed over to immigrants and not locals on the waiting list. Nothing to do with woke, but simply need – immigrant families (the clue is in the name) had more children than native newly-married couples, so had higher priority.
Evidence: there’s a large Somalian family recently moved in to a council house down the road from me in NW1. Three or four kids. Whole house. They’re obviously not rich judging by the father’s car
I wish them well of course and have no idea of their true circumstances - is there a disabled granny as well? Etc. But I can’t help noticing they are living in an extremely desirable london townhouse probably worth £2-3m on the open market. Next to Regent’s Park
Judging by their faltering English they are recent migrants to the UK
As I say, I wish them the best. But you can see how the perception of this would drive some people mad - and is catnip to any would be nativist demagogue
It'd be interesting to know where a 'would-be nativist demagogue' would want them to live.
Do we have any on here we can ask?
I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
I believe the Tories brought in a law - or were about to - somewhat to this effect? Then Starmer cancelled it ASAFP
It’s like Labour all secretly want Farage to win in 2029
But it's a feature not a bug of London that you have council housing slap bang in desirable locations. It mixes things up as opposed to having sterile rich ghettos. Eg there's some near me. I often pass quite close to it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Leon appears to want some sort of class-based racism, where the richer you are, the more racist you get to be.
Well racism is 'in' again now, isn't it. Vibe shift and all that. Thank you Donald.
But I'm digging in and being more progressive than ever. The people I don't want to live near are Reform voters not migrants or asylum seekers.
I see the rate of boat people arriving is up year on year. A headache that won't go away for the government and of course the system is so jammed up will continue to require loads of hotel rooms for many years to come.
It’s gonna explode. Powder keg awaits matchstick
There is another problem with migrant hotels. Sooner or later Nigel Farage will notice that either more money is paid to house homeless migrants than homeless Britons, or Angela Rayner's new houses are given straight to the migrants to get them out of the hotels.
Decades ago, this inflamed racial tensions in London. New council estates were handed over to immigrants and not locals on the waiting list. Nothing to do with woke, but simply need – immigrant families (the clue is in the name) had more children than native newly-married couples, so had higher priority.
Evidence: there’s a large Somalian family recently moved in to a council house down the road from me in NW1. Three or four kids. Whole house. They’re obviously not rich judging by the father’s car
I wish them well of course and have no idea of their true circumstances - is there a disabled granny as well? Etc. But I can’t help noticing they are living in an extremely desirable london townhouse probably worth £2-3m on the open market. Next to Regent’s Park
Judging by their faltering English they are recent migrants to the UK
As I say, I wish them the best. But you can see how the perception of this would drive some people mad - and is catnip to any would be nativist demagogue
It'd be interesting to know where a 'would-be nativist demagogue' would want them to live.
Do we have any on here we can ask?
I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
I believe the Tories brought in a law - or were about to - somewhat to this effect? Then Starmer cancelled it ASAFP
It’s like Labour all secretly want Farage to win in 2029
But it's a feature not a bug of London that you have council housing slap bang in desirable locations. It mixes things up as opposed to having sterile rich ghettos. Eg there's some near me. I often pass quite close to it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Leon appears to want some sort of class-based racism, where the richer you are, the more racist you get to be.
How can I be racist?!
I’ve said more than once on this very thread that young Kakakh women are incredibly hot
You lech.
Did I ever deny it??!
It’s true tho. The mix of mongol, Turkic and Russian genes = 😶😬🤒
It may be the hotties-est city per capita on earth. It rivals Odessa or Montenegro
The one on the left looks a lot like me! Except they all appear to be brunettes wholly into braids, plats and tight hair style I won’t be seen dead wearing.
Wandering around Central Asia these last weeks, one thing I’ve noticed. Kids. Everywhere. Billions of them. Babies in planes. Pushchairs in lifts. School kids laughing in streets. Young people!
It can be a tad annoying but also very heartening. How is Central Asia avoiding birth rate collapse? Because it really is - a startling outlier
Answers on a Mother’s Day card, please
Nought much else to on an evening?
Nope. Not that. They all have phones and laptops and iPads like the rest of us. They also have big cities with bars like Almaty and Astana
Here’s another anomaly. No litter - or almost none. And no graffiti. Not sure I’ve seen a single piece of graffiti since arriving. There are also signs everywhere warning you not to litter - and warnings about fines - and the fines are enforced (so I am told)
So it can be done. We just pathetically lack the will in the west. Start nicking people for littering - and make it HURT - and it stops
Its the Singapore model.
Its the first thing I noticed when I got back from Asia, just how every f##king thing in London appears to be tagged. I can only imagine what people from Asia think.
This is just another symptom of the combination of austerity, SEND & elder care gutting local authority budgets. There’s nothing left over to pay for even the smallest amount of care for local amenities.
(Yes, yes,: austerity wasn’t real, government spending went up etc etc. It was real for local authorities - their budgets were cut nationwide & have never recovered.)
However, if people didn't do it in the first place....there wouldn't be a problem.
I went to Singapore, people don't drop trash or tag everything, so strangely they don't need armies of local government workers to tidy it all up after the dickheads. I went to the zoo in Singapore and a worker found a single piece of litter had been dropped by the end of the day, I watched them photograph and reported it to management (I wouldn't be surprised if the individual was reported for it).
Tagging has definitely got a lot worse in the UK recently, it is everywhere.
Yes. The idea this is all about money or austerity is fucking bollocks. Kazakh gdp per capita is about $12,000. They are mid income at best. A quarter of British per capita wealth
Yet they keep their cities clean and they don’t spray graffiti everywhere. It’s western cultural decline - and a pathetic inability to enforce simple laws
Why are the government being so weird about delivery of new supplies for the blast furnace? The morning round of media was this weird i can't tell you nothing about the delivery, commercially sensitive. Its coal, not gold bars or nuclear warheads.
If the blast furnaces stop burning, irreparable (well very expensive and time consuming to repair) damage is done. Isn't the argument today that the Chinese have sabotaged the furnaces?
Kemi's idea of replacing them with electric arc furnaces is not a great one mind. I am at the Tata Port Talbot site once a month and the whole place is like the Marie Celeste. The arc furnaces will not be operational there for years.
That wasn't my point that is a separate issue.
I was wondering why they are being weird about saying when / where the delivery is coming from. You would think having taken action, they would want to reassure we now have the situation under control, coal will arrive in x days, etc.
It is also the confusing take of today they continued to say even if we do nationalise it, we are going to look to offload it ASAP to a private entity but no Chinese companies allowed. But we know nobody wanted it last time.
I really don't understand why they don't just say we are going to nationalise it, it is the only way forward and it is vital for national security.
Since when have you Tories been pro nationalisation? You'll be asking for Thames Water to be nationalised next.
I don't know how many times you keep up with this rubbish that I am a Tory, despite being told time and time again otherwise.
Us Tories are against this Nationalisation. It’s dumb. Only happening because of election campaign.
Results from the only poll that matters - PBers - had 25 voters and 22 in favour of Nationalising a bankrupt 2 furnace steel plant in Scunthorpe. Yet again PB has got it completely wrong and needs me to put you right - like PB take on Chagos being hopelessly ill informed till I put you right, and your arguments GE 24 would be later in 2024 not July 4th.
If there is national interest nationalising the Scunthorpe steel plant, then there is an awful lot more much closer to the front of the Q for nationalising on same argument is countrys interest, that’s the truth Saturdays discussion slapped you around with, and an awful lot Q ing in same place equal argument to be nationalised too, not least other steel plants already converted to electric. It’s a no brainer nationalisation bad political and economic decision from any government, especially such a directionless soulless government showing its weakness when spooked by Farage in middle on an election campaign.
The people charged over betting on 4th July election, what if they used the argument “I saw 4th July tipped on the worlds best political betting blog so had a little punt, how can I be accused of a crime?”
Ok clever clogs - where will our virgin steel come from if we can’t make it ourselves and don’t say the USA or China and remember we may need some in a hurry at the exact same time other European countries need it for the same military reason
What you saying we will need Virgin steel for exactly? And what are you calling a hurry? And you can’t say warship building, as that ain’t happening in any hurry.
I will say China. They make it cheaper than us despite transport. And they currently want to sell it to us - so if you know you will definitely need some, buy it cheap on the free market and set it aside,
China could cut off that supply tomorrow if they wanted given they are not an ally.
We need virgin steel for our railways as well as our warships
USD10K per year to each Greenlander after the anschluss? What a tight bastard!
It might be more effective to pick 50 key individuals, including a sprinkling of Danes working in Nuuk on colonial placements, and give them USD10M in Switzerland or crypto if they sign up to the project and don't even think of fucking their handlers about.
It's a pretty miserable offer. They could offer ten times that, and it would still be small change, to the US government.
Why are the government being so weird about delivery of new supplies for the blast furnace? The morning round of media was this weird i can't tell you nothing about the delivery, commercially sensitive. Its coal, not gold bars or nuclear warheads.
If the blast furnaces stop burning, irreparable (well very expensive and time consuming to repair) damage is done. Isn't the argument today that the Chinese have sabotaged the furnaces?
Kemi's idea of replacing them with electric arc furnaces is not a great one mind. I am at the Tata Port Talbot site once a month and the whole place is like the Marie Celeste. The arc furnaces will not be operational there for years.
That wasn't my point that is a separate issue.
I was wondering why they are being weird about saying when / where the delivery is coming from. You would think having taken action, they would want to reassure we now have the situation under control, coal will arrive in x days, etc.
It is also the confusing take of today they continued to say even if we do nationalise it, we are going to look to offload it ASAP to a private entity but no Chinese companies allowed. But we know nobody wanted it last time.
I really don't understand why they don't just say we are going to nationalise it, it is the only way forward and it is vital for national security.
Since when have you Tories been pro nationalisation? You'll be asking for Thames Water to be nationalised next.
I don't know how many times you keep up with this rubbish that I am a Tory, despite being told time and time again otherwise.
Us Tories are against this Nationalisation. It’s dumb. Only happening because of election campaign.
Results from the only poll that matters - PBers - had 25 voters and 22 in favour of Nationalising a bankrupt 2 furnace steel plant in Scunthorpe. Yet again PB has got it completely wrong and needs me to put you right - like PB take on Chagos being hopelessly ill informed till I put you right, and your arguments GE 24 would be later in 2024 not July 4th.
If there is national interest nationalising the Scunthorpe steel plant, then there is an awful lot more much closer to the front of the Q for nationalising on same argument is countrys interest, that’s the truth Saturdays discussion slapped you around with, and an awful lot Q ing in same place equal argument to be nationalised too, not least other steel plants already converted to electric. It’s a no brainer nationalisation bad political and economic decision from any government, especially such a directionless soulless government showing its weakness when spooked by Farage in middle on an election campaign.
The people charged over betting on 4th July election, what if they used the argument “I saw 4th July tipped on the worlds best political betting blog so had a little punt, how can I be accused of a crime?”
Even Kemi supported the move to nationalisation as a last resort to secure British virgin steel production.
Pre Thatcher and post Attlee most raw material and energy and transport and the steel industry was nationalised even under Tory governments such as those of Macmillan and Heath (Heath nationalised Rolls Royce in 1971 too)
I see the rate of boat people arriving is up year on year. A headache that won't go away for the government and of course the system is so jammed up will continue to require loads of hotel rooms for many years to come.
It’s gonna explode. Powder keg awaits matchstick
There is another problem with migrant hotels. Sooner or later Nigel Farage will notice that either more money is paid to house homeless migrants than homeless Britons, or Angela Rayner's new houses are given straight to the migrants to get them out of the hotels.
Decades ago, this inflamed racial tensions in London. New council estates were handed over to immigrants and not locals on the waiting list. Nothing to do with woke, but simply need – immigrant families (the clue is in the name) had more children than native newly-married couples, so had higher priority.
Evidence: there’s a large Somalian family recently moved in to a council house down the road from me in NW1. Three or four kids. Whole house. They’re obviously not rich judging by the father’s car
I wish them well of course and have no idea of their true circumstances - is there a disabled granny as well? Etc. But I can’t help noticing they are living in an extremely desirable london townhouse probably worth £2-3m on the open market. Next to Regent’s Park
Judging by their faltering English they are recent migrants to the UK
As I say, I wish them the best. But you can see how the perception of this would drive some people mad - and is catnip to any would be nativist demagogue
It'd be interesting to know where a 'would-be nativist demagogue' would want them to live.
Do we have any on here we can ask?
I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
I believe the Tories brought in a law - or were about to - somewhat to this effect? Then Starmer cancelled it ASAFP
It’s like Labour all secretly want Farage to win in 2029
But it's a feature not a bug of London that you have council housing slap bang in desirable locations. It mixes things up as opposed to having sterile rich ghettos. Eg there's some near me. I often pass quite close to it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Leon appears to want some sort of class-based racism, where the richer you are, the more racist you get to be.
Well racism is 'in' again now, isn't it. Vibe shift and all that. Thank you Donald.
But I'm digging in and being more progressive than ever. The people I don't want to live near are Reform voters not migrants or asylum seekers.
Abhi is fed up with the racist abuse thrown at him on a daily basis while he works behind the counter in a small corner shop in Datchet, a mile and a half away from Windsor Castle.
But the racism isn’t coming from far-right agitators or Middle England locals. It’s coming from some of the asylum seekers housed in the only hotel in the village, located on the banks of the River Thames, which would take the Prince and Princess of Wales just a ten-minute stroll to reach from their home at Adelaide Cottage.
“They abuse me because I’m from India and I’m Hindu,” says Abhi, a 24-year-old who has lived in the UK legally for several years.
I see the rate of boat people arriving is up year on year. A headache that won't go away for the government and of course the system is so jammed up will continue to require loads of hotel rooms for many years to come.
It’s gonna explode. Powder keg awaits matchstick
There is another problem with migrant hotels. Sooner or later Nigel Farage will notice that either more money is paid to house homeless migrants than homeless Britons, or Angela Rayner's new houses are given straight to the migrants to get them out of the hotels.
Decades ago, this inflamed racial tensions in London. New council estates were handed over to immigrants and not locals on the waiting list. Nothing to do with woke, but simply need – immigrant families (the clue is in the name) had more children than native newly-married couples, so had higher priority.
Evidence: there’s a large Somalian family recently moved in to a council house down the road from me in NW1. Three or four kids. Whole house. They’re obviously not rich judging by the father’s car
I wish them well of course and have no idea of their true circumstances - is there a disabled granny as well? Etc. But I can’t help noticing they are living in an extremely desirable london townhouse probably worth £2-3m on the open market. Next to Regent’s Park
Judging by their faltering English they are recent migrants to the UK
As I say, I wish them the best. But you can see how the perception of this would drive some people mad - and is catnip to any would be nativist demagogue
It'd be interesting to know where a 'would-be nativist demagogue' would want them to live.
Do we have any on here we can ask?
I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
I believe the Tories brought in a law - or were about to - somewhat to this effect? Then Starmer cancelled it ASAFP
It’s like Labour all secretly want Farage to win in 2029
But it's a feature not a bug of London that you have council housing slap bang in desirable locations. It mixes things up as opposed to having sterile rich ghettos. Eg there's some near me. I often pass quite close to it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Leon appears to want some sort of class-based racism, where the richer you are, the more racist you get to be.
How can I be racist?!
I’ve said more than once on this very thread that young Kakakh women are incredibly hot
I was thinking the other day that the word "sexist" seems to have fallen into disuse.
Why are the government being so weird about delivery of new supplies for the blast furnace? The morning round of media was this weird i can't tell you nothing about the delivery, commercially sensitive. Its coal, not gold bars or nuclear warheads.
If the blast furnaces stop burning, irreparable (well very expensive and time consuming to repair) damage is done. Isn't the argument today that the Chinese have sabotaged the furnaces?
Kemi's idea of replacing them with electric arc furnaces is not a great one mind. I am at the Tata Port Talbot site once a month and the whole place is like the Marie Celeste. The arc furnaces will not be operational there for years.
That wasn't my point that is a separate issue.
I was wondering why they are being weird about saying when / where the delivery is coming from. You would think having taken action, they would want to reassure we now have the situation under control, coal will arrive in x days, etc.
It is also the confusing take of today they continued to say even if we do nationalise it, we are going to look to offload it ASAP to a private entity but no Chinese companies allowed. But we know nobody wanted it last time.
I really don't understand why they don't just say we are going to nationalise it, it is the only way forward and it is vital for national security.
Since when have you Tories been pro nationalisation? You'll be asking for Thames Water to be nationalised next.
I don't know how many times you keep up with this rubbish that I am a Tory, despite being told time and time again otherwise.
Us Tories are against this Nationalisation. It’s dumb. Only happening because of election campaign.
Results from the only poll that matters - PBers - had 25 voters and 22 in favour of Nationalising a bankrupt 2 furnace steel plant in Scunthorpe. Yet again PB has got it completely wrong and needs me to put you right - like PB take on Chagos being hopelessly ill informed till I put you right, and your arguments GE 24 would be later in 2024 not July 4th.
If there is national interest nationalising the Scunthorpe steel plant, then there is an awful lot more much closer to the front of the Q for nationalising on same argument is countrys interest, that’s the truth Saturdays discussion slapped you around with, and an awful lot Q ing in same place equal argument to be nationalised too, not least other steel plants already converted to electric. It’s a no brainer nationalisation bad political and economic decision from any government, especially such a directionless soulless government showing its weakness when spooked by Farage in middle on an election campaign.
The people charged over betting on 4th July election, what if they used the argument “I saw 4th July tipped on the worlds best political betting blog so had a little punt, how can I be accused of a crime?”
You should do a podcast. It could be called 'The Rest is Incomprehensible Fucking Shit'.
I see the rate of boat people arriving is up year on year. A headache that won't go away for the government and of course the system is so jammed up will continue to require loads of hotel rooms for many years to come.
It’s gonna explode. Powder keg awaits matchstick
There is another problem with migrant hotels. Sooner or later Nigel Farage will notice that either more money is paid to house homeless migrants than homeless Britons, or Angela Rayner's new houses are given straight to the migrants to get them out of the hotels.
Decades ago, this inflamed racial tensions in London. New council estates were handed over to immigrants and not locals on the waiting list. Nothing to do with woke, but simply need – immigrant families (the clue is in the name) had more children than native newly-married couples, so had higher priority.
Evidence: there’s a large Somalian family recently moved in to a council house down the road from me in NW1. Three or four kids. Whole house. They’re obviously not rich judging by the father’s car
I wish them well of course and have no idea of their true circumstances - is there a disabled granny as well? Etc. But I can’t help noticing they are living in an extremely desirable london townhouse probably worth £2-3m on the open market. Next to Regent’s Park
Judging by their faltering English they are recent migrants to the UK
As I say, I wish them the best. But you can see how the perception of this would drive some people mad - and is catnip to any would be nativist demagogue
It'd be interesting to know where a 'would-be nativist demagogue' would want them to live.
Do we have any on here we can ask?
I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
I believe the Tories brought in a law - or were about to - somewhat to this effect? Then Starmer cancelled it ASAFP
It’s like Labour all secretly want Farage to win in 2029
But it's a feature not a bug of London that you have council housing slap bang in desirable locations. It mixes things up as opposed to having sterile rich ghettos. Eg there's some near me. I often pass quite close to it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Leon appears to want some sort of class-based racism, where the richer you are, the more racist you get to be.
It's more a case that the racism of the rich differs from the racism of the working-class. The former is more acceptable in polite society, or what passes for "polite society" in 2025.
Why are the government being so weird about delivery of new supplies for the blast furnace? The morning round of media was this weird i can't tell you nothing about the delivery, commercially sensitive. Its coal, not gold bars or nuclear warheads.
If the blast furnaces stop burning, irreparable (well very expensive and time consuming to repair) damage is done. Isn't the argument today that the Chinese have sabotaged the furnaces?
Kemi's idea of replacing them with electric arc furnaces is not a great one mind. I am at the Tata Port Talbot site once a month and the whole place is like the Marie Celeste. The arc furnaces will not be operational there for years.
That wasn't my point that is a separate issue.
I was wondering why they are being weird about saying when / where the delivery is coming from. You would think having taken action, they would want to reassure we now have the situation under control, coal will arrive in x days, etc.
It is also the confusing take of today they continued to say even if we do nationalise it, we are going to look to offload it ASAP to a private entity but no Chinese companies allowed. But we know nobody wanted it last time.
I really don't understand why they don't just say we are going to nationalise it, it is the only way forward and it is vital for national security.
Since when have you Tories been pro nationalisation? You'll be asking for Thames Water to be nationalised next.
I don't know how many times you keep up with this rubbish that I am a Tory, despite being told time and time again otherwise.
Us Tories are against this Nationalisation. It’s dumb. Only happening because of election campaign.
Results from the only poll that matters - PBers - had 25 voters and 22 in favour of Nationalising a bankrupt 2 furnace steel plant in Scunthorpe. Yet again PB has got it completely wrong and needs me to put you right - like PB take on Chagos being hopelessly ill informed till I put you right, and your arguments GE 24 would be later in 2024 not July 4th.
If there is national interest nationalising the Scunthorpe steel plant, then there is an awful lot more much closer to the front of the Q for nationalising on same argument is countrys interest, that’s the truth Saturdays discussion slapped you around with, and an awful lot Q ing in same place equal argument to be nationalised too, not least other steel plants already converted to electric. It’s a no brainer nationalisation bad political and economic decision from any government, especially such a directionless soulless government showing its weakness when spooked by Farage in middle on an election campaign.
The people charged over betting on 4th July election, what if they used the argument “I saw 4th July tipped on the worlds best political betting blog so had a little punt, how can I be accused of a crime?”
Ok clever clogs - where will our virgin steel come from if we can’t make it ourselves and don’t say the USA or China and remember we may need some in a hurry at the exact same time other European countries need it for the same military reason
What you saying we will need Virgin steel for exactly? And what are you calling a hurry? And you can’t say warship building, as that ain’t happening in any hurry.
I will say China. They make it cheaper than us despite transport. And they currently want to sell it to us - so if you know you will definitely need some, buy it cheap on the free market and set it aside,
China could cut off that supply tomorrow if they wanted given they are not an ally.
We need virgin steel for our railways as well as our warships
USD10K per year to each Greenlander after the anschluss? What a tight bastard!
It might be more effective to pick 50 key individuals, including a sprinkling of Danes working in Nuuk on colonial placements, and give them USD10M in Switzerland or crypto if they sign up to the project and don't even think of fucking their handlers about.
It's a pretty miserable offer. They could offer ten times that, and it would still be small change, to the US government.
Nonsense. If this is $10k per annum in perpetuity it’s huge - I imagine 97% of humans would happily become American for that offer
But the details are vague. If it is just a one off payment of $10k it is indeed paltry
However it being reported as Ten K “per year per person”
Why are the government being so weird about delivery of new supplies for the blast furnace? The morning round of media was this weird i can't tell you nothing about the delivery, commercially sensitive. Its coal, not gold bars or nuclear warheads.
If the blast furnaces stop burning, irreparable (well very expensive and time consuming to repair) damage is done. Isn't the argument today that the Chinese have sabotaged the furnaces?
Kemi's idea of replacing them with electric arc furnaces is not a great one mind. I am at the Tata Port Talbot site once a month and the whole place is like the Marie Celeste. The arc furnaces will not be operational there for years.
That wasn't my point that is a separate issue.
I was wondering why they are being weird about saying when / where the delivery is coming from. You would think having taken action, they would want to reassure we now have the situation under control, coal will arrive in x days, etc.
It is also the confusing take of today they continued to say even if we do nationalise it, we are going to look to offload it ASAP to a private entity but no Chinese companies allowed. But we know nobody wanted it last time.
I really don't understand why they don't just say we are going to nationalise it, it is the only way forward and it is vital for national security.
Since when have you Tories been pro nationalisation? You'll be asking for Thames Water to be nationalised next.
I don't know how many times you keep up with this rubbish that I am a Tory, despite being told time and time again otherwise.
Us Tories are against this Nationalisation. It’s dumb. Only happening because of election campaign.
Results from the only poll that matters - PBers - had 25 voters and 22 in favour of Nationalising a bankrupt 2 furnace steel plant in Scunthorpe. Yet again PB has got it completely wrong and needs me to put you right - like PB take on Chagos being hopelessly ill informed till I put you right, and your arguments GE 24 would be later in 2024 not July 4th.
If there is national interest nationalising the Scunthorpe steel plant, then there is an awful lot more much closer to the front of the Q for nationalising on same argument is countrys interest, that’s the truth Saturdays discussion slapped you around with, and an awful lot Q ing in same place equal argument to be nationalised too, not least other steel plants already converted to electric. It’s a no brainer nationalisation bad political and economic decision from any government, especially such a directionless soulless government showing its weakness when spooked by Farage in middle on an election campaign.
The people charged over betting on 4th July election, what if they used the argument “I saw 4th July tipped on the worlds best political betting blog so had a little punt, how can I be accused of a crime?”
Ok clever clogs - where will our virgin steel come from if we can’t make it ourselves and don’t say the USA or China and remember we may need some in a hurry at the exact same time other European countries need it for the same military reason
What you saying we will need Virgin steel for exactly? And what are you calling a hurry? And you can’t say warship building, as that ain’t happening in any hurry.
I will say China. They make it cheaper than us despite transport. And they currently want to sell it to us - so if you know you will definitely need some, buy it cheap on the free market and set it aside,
China could cut off that supply tomorrow if they wanted given they are not an ally.
We need virgin steel for our railways as well as our warships
I see the rate of boat people arriving is up year on year. A headache that won't go away for the government and of course the system is so jammed up will continue to require loads of hotel rooms for many years to come.
It’s gonna explode. Powder keg awaits matchstick
There is another problem with migrant hotels. Sooner or later Nigel Farage will notice that either more money is paid to house homeless migrants than homeless Britons, or Angela Rayner's new houses are given straight to the migrants to get them out of the hotels.
Decades ago, this inflamed racial tensions in London. New council estates were handed over to immigrants and not locals on the waiting list. Nothing to do with woke, but simply need – immigrant families (the clue is in the name) had more children than native newly-married couples, so had higher priority.
Evidence: there’s a large Somalian family recently moved in to a council house down the road from me in NW1. Three or four kids. Whole house. They’re obviously not rich judging by the father’s car
I wish them well of course and have no idea of their true circumstances - is there a disabled granny as well? Etc. But I can’t help noticing they are living in an extremely desirable london townhouse probably worth £2-3m on the open market. Next to Regent’s Park
Judging by their faltering English they are recent migrants to the UK
As I say, I wish them the best. But you can see how the perception of this would drive some people mad - and is catnip to any would be nativist demagogue
It'd be interesting to know where a 'would-be nativist demagogue' would want them to live.
Do we have any on here we can ask?
I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
I believe the Tories brought in a law - or were about to - somewhat to this effect? Then Starmer cancelled it ASAFP
It’s like Labour all secretly want Farage to win in 2029
But it's a feature not a bug of London that you have council housing slap bang in desirable locations. It mixes things up as opposed to having sterile rich ghettos. Eg there's some near me. I often pass quite close to it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Leon appears to want some sort of class-based racism, where the richer you are, the more racist you get to be.
Well racism is 'in' again now, isn't it. Vibe shift and all that. Thank you Donald.
But I'm digging in and being more progressive than ever. The people I don't want to live near are Reform voters not migrants or asylum seekers.
The Channel Crossers are unlikely to ever vote tory/Fukker (once they get their Brexit Bus Pass passports) so let's have as many as possible.
USD10K per year to each Greenlander after the anschluss? What a tight bastard!
It might be more effective to pick 50 key individuals, including a sprinkling of Danes working in Nuuk on colonial placements, and give them USD10M in Switzerland or crypto if they sign up to the project and don't even think of fucking their handlers about.
He should make it simple. Say to each Greenlander adult: "Here is $1 million dollars. Now leave the country". They'd take it.
Why are the government being so weird about delivery of new supplies for the blast furnace? The morning round of media was this weird i can't tell you nothing about the delivery, commercially sensitive. Its coal, not gold bars or nuclear warheads.
If the blast furnaces stop burning, irreparable (well very expensive and time consuming to repair) damage is done. Isn't the argument today that the Chinese have sabotaged the furnaces?
Kemi's idea of replacing them with electric arc furnaces is not a great one mind. I am at the Tata Port Talbot site once a month and the whole place is like the Marie Celeste. The arc furnaces will not be operational there for years.
That wasn't my point that is a separate issue.
I was wondering why they are being weird about saying when / where the delivery is coming from. You would think having taken action, they would want to reassure we now have the situation under control, coal will arrive in x days, etc.
It is also the confusing take of today they continued to say even if we do nationalise it, we are going to look to offload it ASAP to a private entity but no Chinese companies allowed. But we know nobody wanted it last time.
I really don't understand why they don't just say we are going to nationalise it, it is the only way forward and it is vital for national security.
Since when have you Tories been pro nationalisation? You'll be asking for Thames Water to be nationalised next.
I don't know how many times you keep up with this rubbish that I am a Tory, despite being told time and time again otherwise.
Us Tories are against this Nationalisation. It’s dumb. Only happening because of election campaign.
Results from the only poll that matters - PBers - had 25 voters and 22 in favour of Nationalising a bankrupt 2 furnace steel plant in Scunthorpe. Yet again PB has got it completely wrong and needs me to put you right - like PB take on Chagos being hopelessly ill informed till I put you right, and your arguments GE 24 would be later in 2024 not July 4th.
If there is national interest nationalising the Scunthorpe steel plant, then there is an awful lot more much closer to the front of the Q for nationalising on same argument is countrys interest, that’s the truth Saturdays discussion slapped you around with, and an awful lot Q ing in same place equal argument to be nationalised too, not least other steel plants already converted to electric. It’s a no brainer nationalisation bad political and economic decision from any government, especially such a directionless soulless government showing its weakness when spooked by Farage in middle on an election campaign.
The people charged over betting on 4th July election, what if they used the argument “I saw 4th July tipped on the worlds best political betting blog so had a little punt, how can I be accused of a crime?”
Even Kemi supported the move to nationalisation as a last resort to secure British virgin steel production.
Pre Thatcher and post Attlee most raw material and energy and transport and the steel industry was nationalised even under Tory governments such as those of Macmillan and Heath (Heath nationalised Rolls Royce in 1971 too)
Macmillan of course said Thatcher's privatisations were like 'selling off the family silver.'
Thatcher was more of a free market liberal in the Gladstone mode than a patrician One Nation old style Tory
Why are the government being so weird about delivery of new supplies for the blast furnace? The morning round of media was this weird i can't tell you nothing about the delivery, commercially sensitive. Its coal, not gold bars or nuclear warheads.
If the blast furnaces stop burning, irreparable (well very expensive and time consuming to repair) damage is done. Isn't the argument today that the Chinese have sabotaged the furnaces?
Kemi's idea of replacing them with electric arc furnaces is not a great one mind. I am at the Tata Port Talbot site once a month and the whole place is like the Marie Celeste. The arc furnaces will not be operational there for years.
That wasn't my point that is a separate issue.
I was wondering why they are being weird about saying when / where the delivery is coming from. You would think having taken action, they would want to reassure we now have the situation under control, coal will arrive in x days, etc.
It is also the confusing take of today they continued to say even if we do nationalise it, we are going to look to offload it ASAP to a private entity but no Chinese companies allowed. But we know nobody wanted it last time.
I really don't understand why they don't just say we are going to nationalise it, it is the only way forward and it is vital for national security.
Since when have you Tories been pro nationalisation? You'll be asking for Thames Water to be nationalised next.
I don't know how many times you keep up with this rubbish that I am a Tory, despite being told time and time again otherwise.
Us Tories are against this Nationalisation. It’s dumb. Only happening because of election campaign.
Results from the only poll that matters - PBers - had 25 voters and 22 in favour of Nationalising a bankrupt 2 furnace steel plant in Scunthorpe. Yet again PB has got it completely wrong and needs me to put you right - like PB take on Chagos being hopelessly ill informed till I put you right, and your arguments GE 24 would be later in 2024 not July 4th.
If there is national interest nationalising the Scunthorpe steel plant, then there is an awful lot more much closer to the front of the Q for nationalising on same argument is countrys interest, that’s the truth Saturdays discussion slapped you around with, and an awful lot Q ing in same place equal argument to be nationalised too, not least other steel plants already converted to electric. It’s a no brainer nationalisation bad political and economic decision from any government, especially such a directionless soulless government showing its weakness when spooked by Farage in middle on an election campaign.
The people charged over betting on 4th July election, what if they used the argument “I saw 4th July tipped on the worlds best political betting blog so had a little punt, how can I be accused of a crime?”
Ok clever clogs - where will our virgin steel come from if we can’t make it ourselves and don’t say the USA or China and remember we may need some in a hurry at the exact same time other European countries need it for the same military reason
What you saying we will need Virgin steel for exactly? And what are you calling a hurry? And you can’t say warship building, as that ain’t happening in any hurry.
I will say China. They make it cheaper than us despite transport. And they currently want to sell it to us - so if you know you will definitely need some, buy it cheap on the free market and set it aside,
China could cut off that supply tomorrow if they wanted given they are not an ally.
We need virgin steel for our railways as well as our warships
You can get it cheaper elsewhere easy enough! You know most government projects use imported steel, UK government does not buy steel from British workers becuase it is too expensive to allow projects to be viable?
Don’t believe the nations interest hype, they are conning you. Simple question for you to answer, why is this “must nationalise a steel works in Reform/Labour battleground” answer only happening right now in this election campaign and “it’s national security” didn’t exist at all over the last 45 years, never heard a peep out of it till farage stood amongst Scunthorpe voters last week and said “must protect your jobs in the nations interest”.
Why are the government being so weird about delivery of new supplies for the blast furnace? The morning round of media was this weird i can't tell you nothing about the delivery, commercially sensitive. Its coal, not gold bars or nuclear warheads.
If the blast furnaces stop burning, irreparable (well very expensive and time consuming to repair) damage is done. Isn't the argument today that the Chinese have sabotaged the furnaces?
Kemi's idea of replacing them with electric arc furnaces is not a great one mind. I am at the Tata Port Talbot site once a month and the whole place is like the Marie Celeste. The arc furnaces will not be operational there for years.
That wasn't my point that is a separate issue.
I was wondering why they are being weird about saying when / where the delivery is coming from. You would think having taken action, they would want to reassure we now have the situation under control, coal will arrive in x days, etc.
It is also the confusing take of today they continued to say even if we do nationalise it, we are going to look to offload it ASAP to a private entity but no Chinese companies allowed. But we know nobody wanted it last time.
I really don't understand why they don't just say we are going to nationalise it, it is the only way forward and it is vital for national security.
Since when have you Tories been pro nationalisation? You'll be asking for Thames Water to be nationalised next.
I don't know how many times you keep up with this rubbish that I am a Tory, despite being told time and time again otherwise.
Us Tories are against this Nationalisation. It’s dumb. Only happening because of election campaign.
Results from the only poll that matters - PBers - had 25 voters and 22 in favour of Nationalising a bankrupt 2 furnace steel plant in Scunthorpe. Yet again PB has got it completely wrong and needs me to put you right - like PB take on Chagos being hopelessly ill informed till I put you right, and your arguments GE 24 would be later in 2024 not July 4th.
If there is national interest nationalising the Scunthorpe steel plant, then there is an awful lot more much closer to the front of the Q for nationalising on same argument is countrys interest, that’s the truth Saturdays discussion slapped you around with, and an awful lot Q ing in same place equal argument to be nationalised too, not least other steel plants already converted to electric. It’s a no brainer nationalisation bad political and economic decision from any government, especially such a directionless soulless government showing its weakness when spooked by Farage in middle on an election campaign.
The people charged over betting on 4th July election, what if they used the argument “I saw 4th July tipped on the worlds best political betting blog so had a little punt, how can I be accused of a crime?”
Ok clever clogs - where will our virgin steel come from if we can’t make it ourselves and don’t say the USA or China and remember we may need some in a hurry at the exact same time other European countries need it for the same military reason
What you saying we will need Virgin steel for exactly? And what are you calling a hurry? And you can’t say warship building, as that ain’t happening in any hurry.
I will say China. They make it cheaper than us despite transport. And they currently want to sell it to us - so if you know you will definitely need some, buy it cheap on the free market and set it aside,
China could cut off that supply tomorrow if they wanted given they are not an ally.
We need virgin steel for our railways as well as our warships
I see the rate of boat people arriving is up year on year. A headache that won't go away for the government and of course the system is so jammed up will continue to require loads of hotel rooms for many years to come.
It’s gonna explode. Powder keg awaits matchstick
There is another problem with migrant hotels. Sooner or later Nigel Farage will notice that either more money is paid to house homeless migrants than homeless Britons, or Angela Rayner's new houses are given straight to the migrants to get them out of the hotels.
Decades ago, this inflamed racial tensions in London. New council estates were handed over to immigrants and not locals on the waiting list. Nothing to do with woke, but simply need – immigrant families (the clue is in the name) had more children than native newly-married couples, so had higher priority.
Evidence: there’s a large Somalian family recently moved in to a council house down the road from me in NW1. Three or four kids. Whole house. They’re obviously not rich judging by the father’s car
I wish them well of course and have no idea of their true circumstances - is there a disabled granny as well? Etc. But I can’t help noticing they are living in an extremely desirable london townhouse probably worth £2-3m on the open market. Next to Regent’s Park
Judging by their faltering English they are recent migrants to the UK
As I say, I wish them the best. But you can see how the perception of this would drive some people mad - and is catnip to any would be nativist demagogue
It'd be interesting to know where a 'would-be nativist demagogue' would want them to live.
Do we have any on here we can ask?
I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
I believe the Tories brought in a law - or were about to - somewhat to this effect? Then Starmer cancelled it ASAFP
It’s like Labour all secretly want Farage to win in 2029
But it's a feature not a bug of London that you have council housing slap bang in desirable locations. It mixes things up as opposed to having sterile rich ghettos. Eg there's some near me. I often pass quite close to it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Leon appears to want some sort of class-based racism, where the richer you are, the more racist you get to be.
How can I be racist?!
I’ve said more than once on this very thread that young Kakakh women are incredibly hot
You lech.
Did I ever deny it??!
It’s true tho. The mix of mongol, Turkic and Russian genes = 😶😬🤒
It may be the hotties-est city per capita on earth. It rivals Odessa or Montenegro
The one on the left looks a lot like me! Except they all appear to be brunettes wholly into braids, plats and tight hair style I won’t be seen dead wearing.
I thought you were a moonrabbit, @MoonRabbit ! I am oddly disappointed.
Why are the government being so weird about delivery of new supplies for the blast furnace? The morning round of media was this weird i can't tell you nothing about the delivery, commercially sensitive. Its coal, not gold bars or nuclear warheads.
If the blast furnaces stop burning, irreparable (well very expensive and time consuming to repair) damage is done. Isn't the argument today that the Chinese have sabotaged the furnaces?
Kemi's idea of replacing them with electric arc furnaces is not a great one mind. I am at the Tata Port Talbot site once a month and the whole place is like the Marie Celeste. The arc furnaces will not be operational there for years.
That wasn't my point that is a separate issue.
I was wondering why they are being weird about saying when / where the delivery is coming from. You would think having taken action, they would want to reassure we now have the situation under control, coal will arrive in x days, etc.
It is also the confusing take of today they continued to say even if we do nationalise it, we are going to look to offload it ASAP to a private entity but no Chinese companies allowed. But we know nobody wanted it last time.
I really don't understand why they don't just say we are going to nationalise it, it is the only way forward and it is vital for national security.
Since when have you Tories been pro nationalisation? You'll be asking for Thames Water to be nationalised next.
I don't know how many times you keep up with this rubbish that I am a Tory, despite being told time and time again otherwise.
Us Tories are against this Nationalisation. It’s dumb. Only happening because of election campaign.
Results from the only poll that matters - PBers - had 25 voters and 22 in favour of Nationalising a bankrupt 2 furnace steel plant in Scunthorpe. Yet again PB has got it completely wrong and needs me to put you right - like PB take on Chagos being hopelessly ill informed till I put you right, and your arguments GE 24 would be later in 2024 not July 4th.
If there is national interest nationalising the Scunthorpe steel plant, then there is an awful lot more much closer to the front of the Q for nationalising on same argument is countrys interest, that’s the truth Saturdays discussion slapped you around with, and an awful lot Q ing in same place equal argument to be nationalised too, not least other steel plants already converted to electric. It’s a no brainer nationalisation bad political and economic decision from any government, especially such a directionless soulless government showing its weakness when spooked by Farage in middle on an election campaign.
The people charged over betting on 4th July election, what if they used the argument “I saw 4th July tipped on the worlds best political betting blog so had a little punt, how can I be accused of a crime?”
You should do a podcast. It could be called 'The Rest is Incomprehensible Fucking Shit'.
I see the rate of boat people arriving is up year on year. A headache that won't go away for the government and of course the system is so jammed up will continue to require loads of hotel rooms for many years to come.
It’s gonna explode. Powder keg awaits matchstick
There is another problem with migrant hotels. Sooner or later Nigel Farage will notice that either more money is paid to house homeless migrants than homeless Britons, or Angela Rayner's new houses are given straight to the migrants to get them out of the hotels.
Decades ago, this inflamed racial tensions in London. New council estates were handed over to immigrants and not locals on the waiting list. Nothing to do with woke, but simply need – immigrant families (the clue is in the name) had more children than native newly-married couples, so had higher priority.
Evidence: there’s a large Somalian family recently moved in to a council house down the road from me in NW1. Three or four kids. Whole house. They’re obviously not rich judging by the father’s car
I wish them well of course and have no idea of their true circumstances - is there a disabled granny as well? Etc. But I can’t help noticing they are living in an extremely desirable london townhouse probably worth £2-3m on the open market. Next to Regent’s Park
Judging by their faltering English they are recent migrants to the UK
As I say, I wish them the best. But you can see how the perception of this would drive some people mad - and is catnip to any would be nativist demagogue
It'd be interesting to know where a 'would-be nativist demagogue' would want them to live.
Do we have any on here we can ask?
I would suggest “not in some of the most expensive desirable property in the United Kingdom”. And I would enforce a law that gives you greater rights to more expensive areas the longer you have lived in the UK, if you were born here, etc
I believe the Tories brought in a law - or were about to - somewhat to this effect? Then Starmer cancelled it ASAFP
It’s like Labour all secretly want Farage to win in 2029
But it's a feature not a bug of London that you have council housing slap bang in desirable locations. It mixes things up as opposed to having sterile rich ghettos. Eg there's some near me. I often pass quite close to it. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Leon appears to want some sort of class-based racism, where the richer you are, the more racist you get to be.
Well racism is 'in' again now, isn't it. Vibe shift and all that. Thank you Donald.
But I'm digging in and being more progressive than ever. The people I don't want to live near are Reform voters not migrants or asylum seekers.
Abhi is fed up with the racist abuse thrown at him on a daily basis while he works behind the counter in a small corner shop in Datchet, a mile and a half away from Windsor Castle.
But the racism isn’t coming from far-right agitators or Middle England locals. It’s coming from some of the asylum seekers housed in the only hotel in the village, located on the banks of the River Thames, which would take the Prince and Princess of Wales just a ten-minute stroll to reach from their home at Adelaide Cottage.
“They abuse me because I’m from India and I’m Hindu,” says Abhi, a 24-year-old who has lived in the UK legally for several years.
If you cared about racist abuse, William, you'd have to stop following half the Twitter accounts you currently do.
Why are the government being so weird about delivery of new supplies for the blast furnace? The morning round of media was this weird i can't tell you nothing about the delivery, commercially sensitive. Its coal, not gold bars or nuclear warheads.
If the blast furnaces stop burning, irreparable (well very expensive and time consuming to repair) damage is done. Isn't the argument today that the Chinese have sabotaged the furnaces?
Kemi's idea of replacing them with electric arc furnaces is not a great one mind. I am at the Tata Port Talbot site once a month and the whole place is like the Marie Celeste. The arc furnaces will not be operational there for years.
That wasn't my point that is a separate issue.
I was wondering why they are being weird about saying when / where the delivery is coming from. You would think having taken action, they would want to reassure we now have the situation under control, coal will arrive in x days, etc.
It is also the confusing take of today they continued to say even if we do nationalise it, we are going to look to offload it ASAP to a private entity but no Chinese companies allowed. But we know nobody wanted it last time.
I really don't understand why they don't just say we are going to nationalise it, it is the only way forward and it is vital for national security.
Since when have you Tories been pro nationalisation? You'll be asking for Thames Water to be nationalised next.
I don't know how many times you keep up with this rubbish that I am a Tory, despite being told time and time again otherwise.
Us Tories are against this Nationalisation. It’s dumb. Only happening because of election campaign.
Results from the only poll that matters - PBers - had 25 voters and 22 in favour of Nationalising a bankrupt 2 furnace steel plant in Scunthorpe. Yet again PB has got it completely wrong and needs me to put you right - like PB take on Chagos being hopelessly ill informed till I put you right, and your arguments GE 24 would be later in 2024 not July 4th.
If there is national interest nationalising the Scunthorpe steel plant, then there is an awful lot more much closer to the front of the Q for nationalising on same argument is countrys interest, that’s the truth Saturdays discussion slapped you around with, and an awful lot Q ing in same place equal argument to be nationalised too, not least other steel plants already converted to electric. It’s a no brainer nationalisation bad political and economic decision from any government, especially such a directionless soulless government showing its weakness when spooked by Farage in middle on an election campaign.
The people charged over betting on 4th July election, what if they used the argument “I saw 4th July tipped on the worlds best political betting blog so had a little punt, how can I be accused of a crime?”
Ok clever clogs - where will our virgin steel come from if we can’t make it ourselves and don’t say the USA or China and remember we may need some in a hurry at the exact same time other European countries need it for the same military reason
What you saying we will need Virgin steel for exactly? And what are you calling a hurry? And you can’t say warship building, as that ain’t happening in any hurry.
I will say China. They make it cheaper than us despite transport. And they currently want to sell it to us - so if you know you will definitely need some, buy it cheap on the free market and set it aside,
China could cut off that supply tomorrow if they wanted given they are not an ally.
We need virgin steel for our railways as well as our warships
You can get it cheaper elsewhere easy enough! You know most government projects use imported steel, UK government does not buy steel from British workers becuase it is too expensive to allow projects to be viable?
Don’t believe the nations interest hype, they are conning you. Simple question for you to answer, why is this “must nationalise a steel works in Reform/Labour battleground” answer only happening right now in this election campaign and “it’s national security” didn’t exist at all over the last 45 years, never heard a peep out of it till farage stood amongst Scunthorpe voters last week and said “must protect your jobs in the nations interest”.
I think it quite easy to make the case that the risks to Britain's security have significantly grown in the last few months.
That said, as we need to import both the coking coal and the iron ore, then how is that strategically safer than importing steel in the first place?
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(Yes, yes,: austerity wasn’t real, government spending went up etc etc. It was real for local authorities - their budgets were cut nationwide & have never recovered.)
It might be more effective to pick 50 key individuals, including a sprinkling of Danes working in Nuuk on colonial placements, and give them USD10M in Switzerland or crypto if they sign up to the project and don't even think of fucking their handlers about.
It’s true tho. The mix of mongol, Turkic and Russian genes = 😶😬🤒
It may be the hotties-est city per capita on earth. It rivals Odessa or Montenegro
I went to Singapore, people don't drop trash or tag everything, so strangely they don't need armies of local government workers to tidy it all up after the dickheads. I went to the zoo in Singapore and a worker found a single piece of litter had been dropped by the end of the day, I watched them photograph and reported it to management (I wouldn't be surprised if the individual was reported for it).
Tagging has definitely got a lot worse in the UK recently, it is everywhere.
I will say China. They make it cheaper than us despite transport. And they currently want to sell it to us - so if you know you will definitely need some, buy it cheap on the free market and set it aside,
Suckers and losers.
Autarkic thinking quickly becomes absurd. Much cheaper and easier to maintain and strengthen our trading relationships with a diverse set of countries, protected by a punchy Armed Forces.
They do this in Colombia. In fact they probably do it in many countries but on the quiet.
Everyone in Colombia knows about it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class_in_Colombia#Official_strata_divisions
Is the plan for rich ghettos? Surely the Zone A types can go to all zones (e.g. posh kids can go hunting, cf. the Spartan crypteia), the Zone B-ers can go to all zones except Zone A, etc.
Then, a few hours later, you made comments about foreigners leching after girls in the UK.
You are what you hate.
But I'm digging in and being more progressive than ever. The people I don't want to live near are Reform voters not migrants or asylum seekers.
Except they all appear to be brunettes wholly into braids, plats and tight hair style I won’t be seen dead wearing.
Yet they keep their cities clean and they don’t spray graffiti everywhere. It’s western cultural decline - and a pathetic inability to enforce simple laws
We need virgin steel for our railways as well as our warships
Pre Thatcher and post Attlee most raw material and energy and transport and the steel industry was nationalised even under Tory governments such as those of Macmillan and Heath (Heath nationalised Rolls Royce in 1971 too)
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/migrant-hotel-reshaped-village-windsor-immigration-3x395lw9h
Abhi is fed up with the racist abuse thrown at him on a daily basis while he works behind the counter in a small corner shop in Datchet, a mile and a half away from Windsor Castle.
But the racism isn’t coming from far-right agitators or Middle England locals. It’s coming from some of the asylum seekers housed in the only hotel in the village, located on the banks of the River Thames, which would take the Prince and Princess of Wales just a ten-minute stroll to reach from their home at Adelaide Cottage.
“They abuse me because I’m from India and I’m Hindu,” says Abhi, a 24-year-old who has lived in the UK legally for several years.
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But the details are vague. If it is just a one off payment of $10k it is indeed paltry
However it being reported as Ten K “per year per person”
Thatcher was more of a free market liberal in the Gladstone mode than a patrician One Nation old style Tory
Don’t believe the nations interest hype, they are conning you.
Simple question for you to answer, why is this “must nationalise a steel works in Reform/Labour battleground” answer only happening right now in this election campaign and “it’s national security” didn’t exist at all over the last 45 years, never heard a peep out of it till farage stood amongst Scunthorpe voters last week and said “must protect your jobs in the nations interest”.
That said, as we need to import both the coking coal and the iron ore, then how is that strategically safer than importing steel in the first place?