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  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,905
    edited April 13

    I guess Bryson DeChambeau isn't used to playing more than 54 holes...

    He’s up the creek without a paddle?
    He was, but he now appears to have washed up on a beach.

    Surely even Rory can't lose this.
    Oops. Maybe he could.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,034

    DougSeal said:

    Surely he can’t screw this up now?

    Rory has been here before in the Masters and blown out. Still 1/3 in the betting so fingers crossed.
    He was 1/20 before this hole
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,724
    Phil said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Rayner calls in Army to tackle Birmingham bin crisis
    Military personnel take up office-based role to help during strike"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/13/angela-rayner-calls-in-army-to-tackle-birmingham-bin-crisis/

    Strike-breakers unite.
    Labour don’t appear to appreciate that lawyers in cahoots with judges have levered the Equality Act as a backdoor way to implement socialism in one country.

    Different jobs have different pay rates? No problem: claim that one job has a different male:female ratio & wield the Equality Act to force the employer to pay them both the same hourly rate! Bonus points if you can point to racial differences, although so far only gender differences have been necessary to win in court.

    When the employer goes bankrupt due to being unable to pay the legally enforced back pay that isn’t the lawyers problem, is it? When one side of the pair of jobs goes on strike because their employer is forced to change their terms & conditions to make the two jobs match that isn’t the lawyers problem either. When the basis of market forces for labour break down & it becomes impossible to recruit for certain jobs which are now mandated to be paid the same as other, completely different ones that definitely isn’t the lawyers problem.

    (I exaggerate only slightly - but this is a real issue that the government is going to have to face up to somehow, because the lawyers are not going to stop now that they’ve got the bit between their teeth. Judges should not be setting pay rates for radically different jobs - that’s the job of the market &/or the government.)
    Don’t blame us. Blame Barbara Castle. She introduced the EqPA
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,032
    Scott_xP said:

    DougSeal said:

    Surely he can’t screw this up now?

    Rory has been here before in the Masters and blown out. Still 1/3 in the betting so fingers crossed.
    He was 1/20 before this hole
    1/2 now.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,032
    DougSeal said:

    Phil said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Rayner calls in Army to tackle Birmingham bin crisis
    Military personnel take up office-based role to help during strike"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/13/angela-rayner-calls-in-army-to-tackle-birmingham-bin-crisis/

    Strike-breakers unite.
    Labour don’t appear to appreciate that lawyers in cahoots with judges have levered the Equality Act as a backdoor way to implement socialism in one country.

    Different jobs have different pay rates? No problem: claim that one job has a different male:female ratio & wield the Equality Act to force the employer to pay them both the same hourly rate! Bonus points if you can point to racial differences, although so far only gender differences have been necessary to win in court.

    When the employer goes bankrupt due to being unable to pay the legally enforced back pay that isn’t the lawyers problem, is it? When one side of the pair of jobs goes on strike because their employer is forced to change their terms & conditions to make the two jobs match that isn’t the lawyers problem either. When the basis of market forces for labour break down & it becomes impossible to recruit for certain jobs which are now mandated to be paid the same as other, completely different ones that definitely isn’t the lawyers problem.

    (I exaggerate only slightly - but this is a real issue that the government is going to have to face up to somehow, because the lawyers are not going to stop now that they’ve got the bit between their teeth. Judges should not be setting pay rates for radically different jobs - that’s the job of the market &/or the government.)
    Don’t blame us. Blame Barbara Castle. She introduced the EqPA
    The principle is fine. Some recent decisions seem absurd though.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,420

    Time for an argument

    Which is the better LA film - “Heat” or “Collateral” ?

    Heat.

    De Niro and Pacino in the restaurant scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUy2Wx_r0_w
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,905

    Scott_xP said:

    DougSeal said:

    Surely he can’t screw this up now?

    Rory has been here before in the Masters and blown out. Still 1/3 in the betting so fingers crossed.
    He was 1/20 before this hole
    1/2 now.
    Too short.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,077

    DougSeal said:

    Phil said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Rayner calls in Army to tackle Birmingham bin crisis
    Military personnel take up office-based role to help during strike"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/13/angela-rayner-calls-in-army-to-tackle-birmingham-bin-crisis/

    Strike-breakers unite.
    Labour don’t appear to appreciate that lawyers in cahoots with judges have levered the Equality Act as a backdoor way to implement socialism in one country.

    Different jobs have different pay rates? No problem: claim that one job has a different male:female ratio & wield the Equality Act to force the employer to pay them both the same hourly rate! Bonus points if you can point to racial differences, although so far only gender differences have been necessary to win in court.

    When the employer goes bankrupt due to being unable to pay the legally enforced back pay that isn’t the lawyers problem, is it? When one side of the pair of jobs goes on strike because their employer is forced to change their terms & conditions to make the two jobs match that isn’t the lawyers problem either. When the basis of market forces for labour break down & it becomes impossible to recruit for certain jobs which are now mandated to be paid the same as other, completely different ones that definitely isn’t the lawyers problem.

    (I exaggerate only slightly - but this is a real issue that the government is going to have to face up to somehow, because the lawyers are not going to stop now that they’ve got the bit between their teeth. Judges should not be setting pay rates for radically different jobs - that’s the job of the market &/or the government.)
    Don’t blame us. Blame Barbara Castle. She introduced the EqPA
    The principle is fine. Some recent decisions seem absurd though.
    What is interesting is that we are are following some of the worst ideas from the US.

    The judicial branch starts legislating, because the politicians are frit or whatever. This is awesome, because all lawyers are progressive…. Aren’t they?

    I wonder what the U.K. counterpart to the Federalist Society is?
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,560
    Trump thinking he should up the ante and set next week's tariff rates in line with the ups and downs of this golf round.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,032
    edited April 13
    I could and probably should green up in the golf now. Rory and/or Ludvig Aberg suit me. Justin Rose would mean a loss. Still, let it ride.

    ETA nerve broke. Have cashed out some for a profit.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,552
    edited April 13
    Rory McIlroy choking like Arsenal in the 2022/23 title race.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,724

    DougSeal said:

    Phil said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Rayner calls in Army to tackle Birmingham bin crisis
    Military personnel take up office-based role to help during strike"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/13/angela-rayner-calls-in-army-to-tackle-birmingham-bin-crisis/

    Strike-breakers unite.
    Labour don’t appear to appreciate that lawyers in cahoots with judges have levered the Equality Act as a backdoor way to implement socialism in one country.

    Different jobs have different pay rates? No problem: claim that one job has a different male:female ratio & wield the Equality Act to force the employer to pay them both the same hourly rate! Bonus points if you can point to racial differences, although so far only gender differences have been necessary to win in court.

    When the employer goes bankrupt due to being unable to pay the legally enforced back pay that isn’t the lawyers problem, is it? When one side of the pair of jobs goes on strike because their employer is forced to change their terms & conditions to make the two jobs match that isn’t the lawyers problem either. When the basis of market forces for labour break down & it becomes impossible to recruit for certain jobs which are now mandated to be paid the same as other, completely different ones that definitely isn’t the lawyers problem.

    (I exaggerate only slightly - but this is a real issue that the government is going to have to face up to somehow, because the lawyers are not going to stop now that they’ve got the bit between their teeth. Judges should not be setting pay rates for radically different jobs - that’s the job of the market &/or the government.)
    Don’t blame us. Blame Barbara Castle. She introduced the EqPA
    The principle is fine. Some recent decisions seem absurd though.
    What is interesting is that we are are following some of the worst ideas from the US.

    The judicial branch starts legislating, because the politicians are frit or whatever. This is awesome, because all lawyers are progressive…. Aren’t they?

    I wonder what the U.K. counterpart to the Federalist Society is?
    The lawyers get a look in because Parliament makes shit laws or delegate to the (judicially reviewable) executive. However the EqPA (now consolidated into the Equality Act) has not changed. It’s just been sitting there, rarely used, for half a century. It’s only recently people have woken up to it.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,905

    I could and probably should green up in the golf now. Rory and/or Ludvig Aberg suit me. Justin Rose would mean a loss. Still, let it ride.

    ETA nerve broke. Have cashed out some for a profit.

    Not just your nerves that have gone.

    Altitude sickness seems to be affecting everyone.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,034
    It's entertaining
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,601

    Time for an argument

    Which is the better LA film - “Heat” or “Collateral” ?

    I have seen neither, but for some reason this song came to mind :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7v0dFCWH7k

    "Peter Cat Recording Co. - We're Getting Married". Really rather lovely.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,032
    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    Phil said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Rayner calls in Army to tackle Birmingham bin crisis
    Military personnel take up office-based role to help during strike"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/13/angela-rayner-calls-in-army-to-tackle-birmingham-bin-crisis/

    Strike-breakers unite.
    Labour don’t appear to appreciate that lawyers in cahoots with judges have levered the Equality Act as a backdoor way to implement socialism in one country.

    Different jobs have different pay rates? No problem: claim that one job has a different male:female ratio & wield the Equality Act to force the employer to pay them both the same hourly rate! Bonus points if you can point to racial differences, although so far only gender differences have been necessary to win in court.

    When the employer goes bankrupt due to being unable to pay the legally enforced back pay that isn’t the lawyers problem, is it? When one side of the pair of jobs goes on strike because their employer is forced to change their terms & conditions to make the two jobs match that isn’t the lawyers problem either. When the basis of market forces for labour break down & it becomes impossible to recruit for certain jobs which are now mandated to be paid the same as other, completely different ones that definitely isn’t the lawyers problem.

    (I exaggerate only slightly - but this is a real issue that the government is going to have to face up to somehow, because the lawyers are not going to stop now that they’ve got the bit between their teeth. Judges should not be setting pay rates for radically different jobs - that’s the job of the market &/or the government.)
    Don’t blame us. Blame Barbara Castle. She introduced the EqPA
    The principle is fine. Some recent decisions seem absurd though.
    What is interesting is that we are are following some of the worst ideas from the US.

    The judicial branch starts legislating, because the politicians are frit or whatever. This is awesome, because all lawyers are progressive…. Aren’t they?

    I wonder what the U.K. counterpart to the Federalist Society is?
    The lawyers get a look in because Parliament makes shit laws or delegate to the (judicially reviewable) executive. However the EqPA (now consolidated into the Equality Act) has not changed. It’s just been sitting there, rarely used, for half a century. It’s only recently people have woken up to it.
    It's not the law, it's the judgments. Equal value is fine but lawyers' arbitrary decisions on knocking off when the round ends, or customer-facing retail versus warehouse is bordering on the absurd.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,420
    edited April 13
    Beautiful shot from Rory. Eagle chance.

    Duchambeau in the water again.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,905

    Beautiful shot from Rory. Eagle chancer.

    Duchambeau in the water again.

    To be fair to Rory, it doesn't help when your playing partner starts hacking. It can be contagious.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,034

    Beautiful shot from Rory. Eagle chance.

    Duchambeau in the water again.

    @RealSkipBayless

    Rory McIlroy is the LeBron James of golf, a supremely gifted nice guy without killer instinct. Bryson DeChambeau is the Jake Paul of golf who isn't afraid to do it HIS way and who beat Rory with an amazingly clutch long bunker shot at Pinehurst.

    https://x.com/RealSkipBayless/status/1911194373783728451
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,032

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    Phil said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Rayner calls in Army to tackle Birmingham bin crisis
    Military personnel take up office-based role to help during strike"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/13/angela-rayner-calls-in-army-to-tackle-birmingham-bin-crisis/

    Strike-breakers unite.
    Labour don’t appear to appreciate that lawyers in cahoots with judges have levered the Equality Act as a backdoor way to implement socialism in one country.

    Different jobs have different pay rates? No problem: claim that one job has a different male:female ratio & wield the Equality Act to force the employer to pay them both the same hourly rate! Bonus points if you can point to racial differences, although so far only gender differences have been necessary to win in court.

    When the employer goes bankrupt due to being unable to pay the legally enforced back pay that isn’t the lawyers problem, is it? When one side of the pair of jobs goes on strike because their employer is forced to change their terms & conditions to make the two jobs match that isn’t the lawyers problem either. When the basis of market forces for labour break down & it becomes impossible to recruit for certain jobs which are now mandated to be paid the same as other, completely different ones that definitely isn’t the lawyers problem.

    (I exaggerate only slightly - but this is a real issue that the government is going to have to face up to somehow, because the lawyers are not going to stop now that they’ve got the bit between their teeth. Judges should not be setting pay rates for radically different jobs - that’s the job of the market &/or the government.)
    Don’t blame us. Blame Barbara Castle. She introduced the EqPA
    The principle is fine. Some recent decisions seem absurd though.
    What is interesting is that we are are following some of the worst ideas from the US.

    The judicial branch starts legislating, because the politicians are frit or whatever. This is awesome, because all lawyers are progressive…. Aren’t they?

    I wonder what the U.K. counterpart to the Federalist Society is?
    The lawyers get a look in because Parliament makes shit laws or delegate to the (judicially reviewable) executive. However the EqPA (now consolidated into the Equality Act) has not changed. It’s just been sitting there, rarely used, for half a century. It’s only recently people have woken up to it.
    It's not the law, it's the judgments. Equal value is fine but lawyers' arbitrary decisions on knocking off when the round ends, or customer-facing retail versus warehouse is bordering on the absurd.
    And that is betting without endless objections and reviews on infrastructure projects, and appeals against deportation on the grounds that every other country is worse than Britain which is why they came here in the first place.
  • MightyAlexMightyAlex Posts: 1,753
    Phil said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Rayner calls in Army to tackle Birmingham bin crisis
    Military personnel take up office-based role to help during strike"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/13/angela-rayner-calls-in-army-to-tackle-birmingham-bin-crisis/

    Strike-breakers unite.
    Labour don’t appear to appreciate that lawyers in cahoots with judges have levered the Equality Act as a backdoor way to implement socialism in one country.

    Different jobs have different pay rates? No problem: claim that one job has a different male:female ratio & wield the Equality Act to force the employer to pay them both the same hourly rate! Bonus points if you can point to racial differences, although so far only gender differences have been necessary to win in court.

    When the employer goes bankrupt due to being unable to pay the legally enforced back pay that isn’t the lawyers problem, is it? When one side of the pair of jobs goes on strike because their employer is forced to change their terms & conditions to make the two jobs match that isn’t the lawyers problem either. When the basis of market forces for labour break down & it becomes impossible to recruit for certain jobs which are now mandated to be paid the same as other, completely different ones that definitely isn’t the lawyers problem.

    (I exaggerate only slightly - but this is a real issue that the government is going to have to face up to somehow, because the lawyers are not going to stop now that they’ve got the bit between their teeth. Judges should not be setting pay rates for radically different jobs - that’s the job of the market &/or the government.)
    You might be interested in the percentage taken from the large settlements. The R4 docu on this subject interviewed a partner from a Scottish firm who dealt with a billion+ settlement. He claimed they initially were taking 25% but now 10% will suffice.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,034
    Are we going to get a playoff?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,032
    Scott_xP said:

    Are we going to get a playoff?

    All in Rory's hands now.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,656

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    Phil said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Rayner calls in Army to tackle Birmingham bin crisis
    Military personnel take up office-based role to help during strike"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/13/angela-rayner-calls-in-army-to-tackle-birmingham-bin-crisis/

    Strike-breakers unite.
    Labour don’t appear to appreciate that lawyers in cahoots with judges have levered the Equality Act as a backdoor way to implement socialism in one country.

    Different jobs have different pay rates? No problem: claim that one job has a different male:female ratio & wield the Equality Act to force the employer to pay them both the same hourly rate! Bonus points if you can point to racial differences, although so far only gender differences have been necessary to win in court.

    When the employer goes bankrupt due to being unable to pay the legally enforced back pay that isn’t the lawyers problem, is it? When one side of the pair of jobs goes on strike because their employer is forced to change their terms & conditions to make the two jobs match that isn’t the lawyers problem either. When the basis of market forces for labour break down & it becomes impossible to recruit for certain jobs which are now mandated to be paid the same as other, completely different ones that definitely isn’t the lawyers problem.

    (I exaggerate only slightly - but this is a real issue that the government is going to have to face up to somehow, because the lawyers are not going to stop now that they’ve got the bit between their teeth. Judges should not be setting pay rates for radically different jobs - that’s the job of the market &/or the government.)
    Don’t blame us. Blame Barbara Castle. She introduced the EqPA
    The principle is fine. Some recent decisions seem absurd though.
    What is interesting is that we are are following some of the worst ideas from the US.

    The judicial branch starts legislating, because the politicians are frit or whatever. This is awesome, because all lawyers are progressive…. Aren’t they?

    I wonder what the U.K. counterpart to the Federalist Society is?
    The lawyers get a look in because Parliament makes shit laws or delegate to the (judicially reviewable) executive. However the EqPA (now consolidated into the Equality Act) has not changed. It’s just been sitting there, rarely used, for half a century. It’s only recently people have woken up to it.
    It's not the law, it's the judgments. Equal value is fine but lawyers' arbitrary decisions on knocking off when the round ends, or customer-facing retail versus warehouse is bordering on the absurd.
    Judges and the legal profession are a good deal less sensible than they once were, but I think I need some substantiation that the Equality Act merely 'consolidated' the Equal Pay Act. The latter seems to be the legal basis for these grotesque judgements.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,267

    Andy_JS said:

    You won't believe who I spotted in London on Friday afternoon: Michael Portillo, wearing one of his colourful jackets.

    I saw him at Ely Station way back in 2016, filming his railway show!
    That would be even more interesting, to see him filming one of those programmes.
  • ohnotnow said:

    Time for an argument

    Which is the better LA film - “Heat” or “Collateral” ?

    I have seen neither, but for some reason this song came to mind :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7v0dFCWH7k

    "Peter Cat Recording Co. - We're Getting Married". Really rather lovely.
    Heat of course..😎
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,656
    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    You won't believe who I spotted in London on Friday afternoon: Michael Portillo, wearing one of his colourful jackets.

    I saw him at Ely Station way back in 2016, filming his railway show!
    That would be even more interesting, to see him filming one of those programmes.
    They're very ill advised those jackets. He'd look a lot lot better in the Tory uniform of navy jacket and chinos, and confine the lary colours to a tie. I don't remember him being got up that way on This Week. Perhaps they didn't allow it.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,077
    edited April 13

    ohnotnow said:

    Time for an argument

    Which is the better LA film - “Heat” or “Collateral” ?

    I have seen neither, but for some reason this song came to mind :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7v0dFCWH7k

    "Peter Cat Recording Co. - We're Getting Married". Really rather lovely.
    Heat of course..😎
    Not sure - Tom Cruise actually acting and the cast of characters in Collateral (including the city itself)....

    Pachino chewing all the scenery gets wearing after a while.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,077

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    Phil said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Rayner calls in Army to tackle Birmingham bin crisis
    Military personnel take up office-based role to help during strike"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/13/angela-rayner-calls-in-army-to-tackle-birmingham-bin-crisis/

    Strike-breakers unite.
    Labour don’t appear to appreciate that lawyers in cahoots with judges have levered the Equality Act as a backdoor way to implement socialism in one country.

    Different jobs have different pay rates? No problem: claim that one job has a different male:female ratio & wield the Equality Act to force the employer to pay them both the same hourly rate! Bonus points if you can point to racial differences, although so far only gender differences have been necessary to win in court.

    When the employer goes bankrupt due to being unable to pay the legally enforced back pay that isn’t the lawyers problem, is it? When one side of the pair of jobs goes on strike because their employer is forced to change their terms & conditions to make the two jobs match that isn’t the lawyers problem either. When the basis of market forces for labour break down & it becomes impossible to recruit for certain jobs which are now mandated to be paid the same as other, completely different ones that definitely isn’t the lawyers problem.

    (I exaggerate only slightly - but this is a real issue that the government is going to have to face up to somehow, because the lawyers are not going to stop now that they’ve got the bit between their teeth. Judges should not be setting pay rates for radically different jobs - that’s the job of the market &/or the government.)
    Don’t blame us. Blame Barbara Castle. She introduced the EqPA
    The principle is fine. Some recent decisions seem absurd though.
    What is interesting is that we are are following some of the worst ideas from the US.

    The judicial branch starts legislating, because the politicians are frit or whatever. This is awesome, because all lawyers are progressive…. Aren’t they?

    I wonder what the U.K. counterpart to the Federalist Society is?
    The lawyers get a look in because Parliament makes shit laws or delegate to the (judicially reviewable) executive. However the EqPA (now consolidated into the Equality Act) has not changed. It’s just been sitting there, rarely used, for half a century. It’s only recently people have woken up to it.
    It's not the law, it's the judgments. Equal value is fine but lawyers' arbitrary decisions on knocking off when the round ends, or customer-facing retail versus warehouse is bordering on the absurd.
    When I become unDictator, one of the first laws will be that all legal work is equal. So top lawyers will get the paid same as the secretaries. In the interests of equality.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,032

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    Phil said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Rayner calls in Army to tackle Birmingham bin crisis
    Military personnel take up office-based role to help during strike"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/13/angela-rayner-calls-in-army-to-tackle-birmingham-bin-crisis/

    Strike-breakers unite.
    Labour don’t appear to appreciate that lawyers in cahoots with judges have levered the Equality Act as a backdoor way to implement socialism in one country.

    Different jobs have different pay rates? No problem: claim that one job has a different male:female ratio & wield the Equality Act to force the employer to pay them both the same hourly rate! Bonus points if you can point to racial differences, although so far only gender differences have been necessary to win in court.

    When the employer goes bankrupt due to being unable to pay the legally enforced back pay that isn’t the lawyers problem, is it? When one side of the pair of jobs goes on strike because their employer is forced to change their terms & conditions to make the two jobs match that isn’t the lawyers problem either. When the basis of market forces for labour break down & it becomes impossible to recruit for certain jobs which are now mandated to be paid the same as other, completely different ones that definitely isn’t the lawyers problem.

    (I exaggerate only slightly - but this is a real issue that the government is going to have to face up to somehow, because the lawyers are not going to stop now that they’ve got the bit between their teeth. Judges should not be setting pay rates for radically different jobs - that’s the job of the market &/or the government.)
    Don’t blame us. Blame Barbara Castle. She introduced the EqPA
    The principle is fine. Some recent decisions seem absurd though.
    What is interesting is that we are are following some of the worst ideas from the US.

    The judicial branch starts legislating, because the politicians are frit or whatever. This is awesome, because all lawyers are progressive…. Aren’t they?

    I wonder what the U.K. counterpart to the Federalist Society is?
    The lawyers get a look in because Parliament makes shit laws or delegate to the (judicially reviewable) executive. However the EqPA (now consolidated into the Equality Act) has not changed. It’s just been sitting there, rarely used, for half a century. It’s only recently people have woken up to it.
    It's not the law, it's the judgments. Equal value is fine but lawyers' arbitrary decisions on knocking off when the round ends, or customer-facing retail versus warehouse is bordering on the absurd.
    When I become unDictator, one of the first laws will be that all legal work is equal. So top lawyers will get the paid same as the secretaries. In the interests of equality.
    It used to be a truism that barristers earned less than their clerks, although I gather that arrangement is a thing of the past.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,002
    Not sure if Trump is watching this but the support for Rory and Justin from a US crowds is fantastic
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,226

    ohnotnow said:

    Time for an argument

    Which is the better LA film - “Heat” or “Collateral” ?

    I have seen neither, but for some reason this song came to mind :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7v0dFCWH7k

    "Peter Cat Recording Co. - We're Getting Married". Really rather lovely.
    Heat of course..😎
    Not sure - Tom Cruise actually acting and the cast of characters in Collateral (including the city itself)....

    Pachino chewing all the scenery gets wearing after a while.
    I saw Collateral about 20 years ago, and thought it amazing, but haven't seen it since.

    I remember enjoying it.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,077

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    Phil said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Rayner calls in Army to tackle Birmingham bin crisis
    Military personnel take up office-based role to help during strike"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/13/angela-rayner-calls-in-army-to-tackle-birmingham-bin-crisis/

    Strike-breakers unite.
    Labour don’t appear to appreciate that lawyers in cahoots with judges have levered the Equality Act as a backdoor way to implement socialism in one country.

    Different jobs have different pay rates? No problem: claim that one job has a different male:female ratio & wield the Equality Act to force the employer to pay them both the same hourly rate! Bonus points if you can point to racial differences, although so far only gender differences have been necessary to win in court.

    When the employer goes bankrupt due to being unable to pay the legally enforced back pay that isn’t the lawyers problem, is it? When one side of the pair of jobs goes on strike because their employer is forced to change their terms & conditions to make the two jobs match that isn’t the lawyers problem either. When the basis of market forces for labour break down & it becomes impossible to recruit for certain jobs which are now mandated to be paid the same as other, completely different ones that definitely isn’t the lawyers problem.

    (I exaggerate only slightly - but this is a real issue that the government is going to have to face up to somehow, because the lawyers are not going to stop now that they’ve got the bit between their teeth. Judges should not be setting pay rates for radically different jobs - that’s the job of the market &/or the government.)
    Don’t blame us. Blame Barbara Castle. She introduced the EqPA
    The principle is fine. Some recent decisions seem absurd though.
    What is interesting is that we are are following some of the worst ideas from the US.

    The judicial branch starts legislating, because the politicians are frit or whatever. This is awesome, because all lawyers are progressive…. Aren’t they?

    I wonder what the U.K. counterpart to the Federalist Society is?
    The lawyers get a look in because Parliament makes shit laws or delegate to the (judicially reviewable) executive. However the EqPA (now consolidated into the Equality Act) has not changed. It’s just been sitting there, rarely used, for half a century. It’s only recently people have woken up to it.
    It's not the law, it's the judgments. Equal value is fine but lawyers' arbitrary decisions on knocking off when the round ends, or customer-facing retail versus warehouse is bordering on the absurd.
    When I become unDictator, one of the first laws will be that all legal work is equal. So top lawyers will get the paid same as the secretaries. In the interests of equality.
    It used to be a truism that barristers earned less than their clerks, although I gather that arrangement is a thing of the past.
    I suspect that salary and income may be involved in a game of definitions there.....
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,032

    Not sure if Trump is watching this but the support for Rory and Justin from a US crowds is fantastic

    Watch the golf or work on saving the economy? Decisions, decisions.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,267
    edited April 13

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    You won't believe who I spotted in London on Friday afternoon: Michael Portillo, wearing one of his colourful jackets.

    I saw him at Ely Station way back in 2016, filming his railway show!
    That would be even more interesting, to see him filming one of those programmes.
    They're very ill advised those jackets. He'd look a lot lot better in the Tory uniform of navy jacket and chinos, and confine the lary colours to a tie. I don't remember him being got up that way on This Week. Perhaps they didn't allow it.
    I didn't think he wore them outside the making of the programmes, but there he was strolling along the pavement in the Rotherhithe area. I was on a bus at the time, the C10.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,420
    Scott_xP said:

    Are we going to get a playoff?

    Yup.

    Inevitable....
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,552

    Scott_xP said:

    Are we going to get a playoff?

    Yup.

    Inevitable....
    I want to go to bed.

    I like to go to bed early on Sundays.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,034
    Rory is still favourite despite playing 7 shots worse than Rose today
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 4,954
    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    You won't believe who I spotted in London on Friday afternoon: Michael Portillo, wearing one of his colourful jackets.

    I saw him at Ely Station way back in 2016, filming his railway show!
    That would be even more interesting, to see him filming one of those programmes.
    My train conductor friend says it is a PITA when Portillo is glad-handing everyone while my mate is trying to get a train off on time.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,420

    Scott_xP said:

    Are we going to get a playoff?

    Yup.

    Inevitable....
    I want to go to bed.

    I like to go to bed early on Sundays.
    You can stay up this once to watch history.

    Maybe.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,034
    Why are they interviewing the LOSER !!!!
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,131

    Time for an argument

    Which is the better LA film - “Heat” or “Collateral” ?

    Manhunter
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,077
    viewcode said:

    Time for an argument

    Which is the better LA film - “Heat” or “Collateral” ?

    Manhunter
    Not an LA film.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,647

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:

    You won't believe who I spotted in London on Friday afternoon: Michael Portillo, wearing one of his colourful jackets.

    I saw him at Ely Station way back in 2016, filming his railway show!
    That would be even more interesting, to see him filming one of those programmes.
    My train conductor friend says it is a PITA when Portillo is glad-handing everyone while my mate is trying to get a train off on time.
    If I'd lost, and then rehabilitated my reputation as much as Portillo, I'd be glad-handing too!
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,131

    viewcode said:

    Time for an argument

    Which is the better LA film - “Heat” or “Collateral” ?

    Manhunter
    Not an LA film.
    To Live and Die in LA? LA Confidential? Sunset Boulevard?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 24,131

    viewcode said:

    Time for an argument

    Which is the better LA film - “Heat” or “Collateral” ?

    Manhunter
    Not an LA film.
    OK. Heat then.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,032
    WD Rory.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,420
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Time for an argument

    Which is the better LA film - “Heat” or “Collateral” ?

    Manhunter
    Not an LA film.
    To Live and Die in LA? LA Confidential? Sunset Boulevard?
    Chinatown.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,647

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Time for an argument

    Which is the better LA film - “Heat” or “Collateral” ?

    Manhunter
    Not an LA film.
    To Live and Die in LA? LA Confidential? Sunset Boulevard?
    Chinatown.
    LA Story.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,002
    Rory never does it the easy way

    Many congratulations on winning the grand slam
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,637
    What a Masters.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,379
    YouTube showed me a couple of brief video songs about the Democratic Penguins Republic. Very funny.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 30,032
    Hull to become new Bordeaux as climate change redraws wine map

    Areas in North Yorkshire will be able to grow cabernet sauvignon grapes by 2100, new analysis predicts, as rising temperatures dry out southern France

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/environment/article/hull-new-bordeaux-climate-change-wine-rtzjqsv8v (£££)
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,077

    Hull to become new Bordeaux as climate change redraws wine map

    Areas in North Yorkshire will be able to grow cabernet sauvignon grapes by 2100, new analysis predicts, as rising temperatures dry out southern France

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/environment/article/hull-new-bordeaux-climate-change-wine-rtzjqsv8v (£££)

    Chateau de Chasseloir?
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,647
    Cyclefree said:

    Another long night in A&E - this time with acute chest pain when breathing, probably pleural. But may be an embolism.

    Unlike in genteel Hampstead, there has been an insane woman shouting and swearing for the last 2 hours about some domestic dispute to two extraordinarily patient policemen. She's breached a restraining order and also has some issues with Dunelm along with a number of people whose names she's been broadcasting to us all. Quite what she's doing in hospital God only knows.

    At the rate I'm going I'll be writing a guide to A&E departments round the UK.

    Commiserations and best wishes.

    Dunelm is fantastic. John Lewis for those of us who can't afford John Lewis.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,077
    Cyclefree said:

    Another long night in A&E - this time with acute chest pain when breathing, probably pleural. But may be an embolism.

    Unlike in genteel Hampstead, there has been an insane woman shouting and swearing for the last 2 hours about some domestic dispute to two extraordinarily patient policemen. She's breached a restraining order and also has some issues with Dunelm along with a number of people whose names she's been broadcasting to us all. Quite what she's doing in hospital God only knows.

    At the rate I'm going I'll be writing a guide to A&E departments round the UK.

    Been there. Too many times. All best wishes etc.

    Chelsea & Westminster has a good A&E. And a great children’s one.

    St Andrews Community Hospital A&E also rates.

    At least the police are there. Had A&E experiences where the loons were in and the fuzz were out.
  • CollegeCollege Posts: 42
    carnforth said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Another long night in A&E - this time with acute chest pain when breathing, probably pleural. But may be an embolism.

    Unlike in genteel Hampstead, there has been an insane woman shouting and swearing for the last 2 hours about some domestic dispute to two extraordinarily patient policemen. She's breached a restraining order and also has some issues with Dunelm along with a number of people whose names she's been broadcasting to us all. Quite what she's doing in hospital God only knows.

    At the rate I'm going I'll be writing a guide to A&E departments round the UK.

    Commiserations and best wishes.

    Dunelm is fantastic. John Lewis for those of us who can't afford John Lewis.
    Dunelm rocks! I discovered it last year, and was so pleased because it is ultra-uncool and it rocks - what a combination! - so basically everyone can fuck off, and what is better than being able to say that? It's one of the few places that stocks Dylon clothes dye, although admittedly John Lewis does too, but if there's a Dunelm nearer...
  • CollegeCollege Posts: 42
    edited April 14

    Oliver Wendell Holmes supposedly once said that FDR had a "second class" intellect, but a "first class" temperament. (I'd agree with that conclusion.)

    A good case can be made for Abraham Lincoln as the president with the highest IQ. He had a few years of grade school, but taught himself to be, first a surveyor, and then a lawyer. (He was good at both.)

    He read and studied every book he could get his hands on, and was famous for his ability to lean by listening.

    You don't think it's nuts to say he might have had the highest "IQ" when "IQ" was invented a long time after he died then? Did he have a high CelebDAQ score too? Maybe he did well in YouGov polling?

    Jefferson thought black people were incapable of understanding Euclid ... at a time when it was unlawful in several states for black people to read books or for someone to teach a black person to read and write. Punishments for writing including having your finger cut off. That's if you were black. Sometimes the law applied even if you were free. You just had to be black.

    That's where IQ comes from. "We're better than you. That's why we're right to stop you bettering yourselves. Because we were BORN better, okayyy?" It's the most moronic crap out.

    For a benchmark: before the 1960s adult literacy was a minority thing in the world...

    Someone here a few days ago said Trump had the IQ of a toddler. I didn't bother responding, but people who love IQ sometimes don't even know what it means. They know it's good, though.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,691

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    Phil said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Rayner calls in Army to tackle Birmingham bin crisis
    Military personnel take up office-based role to help during strike"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/13/angela-rayner-calls-in-army-to-tackle-birmingham-bin-crisis/

    Strike-breakers unite.
    Labour don’t appear to appreciate that lawyers in cahoots with judges have levered the Equality Act as a backdoor way to implement socialism in one country.

    Different jobs have different pay rates? No problem: claim that one job has a different male:female ratio & wield the Equality Act to force the employer to pay them both the same hourly rate! Bonus points if you can point to racial differences, although so far only gender differences have been necessary to win in court.

    When the employer goes bankrupt due to being unable to pay the legally enforced back pay that isn’t the lawyers problem, is it? When one side of the pair of jobs goes on strike because their employer is forced to change their terms & conditions to make the two jobs match that isn’t the lawyers problem either. When the basis of market forces for labour break down & it becomes impossible to recruit for certain jobs which are now mandated to be paid the same as other, completely different ones that definitely isn’t the lawyers problem.

    (I exaggerate only slightly - but this is a real issue that the government is going to have to face up to somehow, because the lawyers are not going to stop now that they’ve got the bit between their teeth. Judges should not be setting pay rates for radically different jobs - that’s the job of the market &/or the government.)
    Don’t blame us. Blame Barbara Castle. She introduced the EqPA
    The principle is fine. Some recent decisions seem absurd though.
    What is interesting is that we are are following some of the worst ideas from the US.

    The judicial branch starts legislating, because the politicians are frit or whatever. This is awesome, because all lawyers are progressive…. Aren’t they?

    I wonder what the U.K. counterpart to the Federalist Society is?
    The lawyers get a look in because Parliament makes shit laws or delegate to the (judicially reviewable) executive. However the EqPA (now consolidated into the Equality Act) has not changed. It’s just been sitting there, rarely used, for half a century. It’s only recently people have woken up to it.
    It's not the law, it's the judgments. Equal value is fine but lawyers' arbitrary decisions on knocking off when the round ends, or customer-facing retail versus warehouse is bordering on the absurd.

    And that is betting without endless
    objections and reviews on infrastructure
    projects, and appeals against deportation
    on the grounds that every other country is
    worse than Britain which is why they came
    here in the first place.
    So basically you are saying that if we introduced the death penalty for lawyers then all would be right with the country?

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,200

    Phil said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Rayner calls in Army to tackle Birmingham bin crisis
    Military personnel take up office-based role to help during strike"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/13/angela-rayner-calls-in-army-to-tackle-birmingham-bin-crisis/

    Strike-breakers unite.
    Labour don’t appear to appreciate that lawyers in cahoots with judges have levered the Equality Act as a backdoor way to implement socialism in one country.

    Different jobs have different pay rates? No problem: claim that one job has a different male:female ratio & wield the Equality Act to force the employer to pay them both the same hourly rate! Bonus points if you can point to racial differences, although so far only gender differences have been necessary to win in court.

    When the employer goes bankrupt due to being unable to pay the legally enforced back pay that isn’t the lawyers problem, is it? When one side of the pair of jobs goes on strike because their employer is forced to change their terms & conditions to make the two jobs match that isn’t the lawyers problem either. When the basis of market forces for labour break down & it becomes impossible to recruit for certain jobs which are now mandated to be paid the same as other, completely different ones that definitely isn’t the lawyers problem.

    (I exaggerate only slightly - but this is a real issue that the government is going to have to face up to somehow, because the lawyers are not going to stop now that they’ve got the bit between their teeth. Judges should not be setting pay rates for radically different jobs - that’s the job of the market &/or the government.)
    You might be interested in the percentage taken from the large settlements. The R4 docu on this subject interviewed a partner from a Scottish firm who dealt with a billion+ settlement. He claimed they initially were taking 25% but now 10% will suffice.
    Absolutely fucking bonkers that lawyers should be on any sort of % for stuff like this.
    Birmingham council should not offer more, and the binmen should not accept less here.
    The consequences of this bonkers bit of lawfare need to be played out to the fullest extent and explained to all who observe.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,434

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Time for an argument

    Which is the better LA film - “Heat” or “Collateral” ?

    Manhunter
    Not an LA film.
    To Live and Die in LA? LA Confidential? Sunset Boulevard?
    Chinatown.
    Forget it, MarqueeMark.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,434
    Cyclefree said:

    Another long night in A&E - this time with acute chest pain when breathing, probably pleural. But may be an embolism.

    Unlike in genteel Hampstead, there has been an insane woman shouting and swearing for the last 2 hours about some domestic dispute to two extraordinarily patient policemen. She's breached a restraining order and also has some issues with Dunelm along with a number of people whose names she's been broadcasting to us all. Quite what she's doing in hospital God only knows.

    At the rate I'm going I'll be writing a guide to A&E departments round the UK.

    That sounds nasty.
    All the best, Cyclefree.

    Recent A&E experiences range from excellent (took someone in with a suspected stroke) to abysmal (sacroiliac tear).
    Same A&E.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,434
    They are falsely declaring people dead.

    Trump administration overrode Social Security staff to list immigrants as dead
    A senior executive who objected was marched out of his office and put on leave, while earlier warnings about the agency’s deaths database were ignored.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/04/12/trump-immigrants-dead-social-security/
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,434
    RIP Mario Vargas Llosa.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,451
    Good morning, everyone.

    F1: seems Russell's avoided a penalty. Bit surprised but I'll read past the headline shortly.

    Mildly irked having a bet fail by 0.7s but there we are.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,420
    Nigelb said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Time for an argument

    Which is the better LA film - “Heat” or “Collateral” ?

    Manhunter
    Not an LA film.
    To Live and Die in LA? LA Confidential? Sunset Boulevard?
    Chinatown.
    Forget it, MarqueeMark.
    If only. But not with this bandage on my nose...
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,099
    Glad to see that McIlroy and Rose have been doing their bit for our balance of payments overnight. Wonder if Reeves has spent her cut already. Probably.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,104
    AOC and Bernie get 20 000 at a rally in deep red Utah. They were queueing for up to 7 hours. The woman has star quality.

    https://bsky.app/profile/aoc.bsky.social/post/3lmqfpz4kc22r
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,099
    Good piece on how Ed Miliband is the loser of the plans to nationalise British Steel, an industry he worked hard to close: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/voices-the-big-loser-from-the-collapse-of-british-steel-is-ed-miliband-and-his-green-utopianism/ar-AA1CNrfp?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=460152d1dda4412a837ccffd8c082527&ei=27

    We still urgently need to cancel the carbon capture nonsense and get back to the North Sea before the infrastructure deteriorates. A resignation as a matter of principle would be welcome.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,034
    Foxy said:

    AOC and Bernie get 20 000 at a rally in deep red Utah. They were queueing for up to 7 hours. The woman has star quality.

    https://bsky.app/profile/aoc.bsky.social/post/3lmqfpz4kc22r

    6 months too late...
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,622
    Nigelb said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Another long night in A&E - this time with acute chest pain when breathing, probably pleural. But may be an embolism.

    Unlike in genteel Hampstead, there has been an insane woman shouting and swearing for the last 2 hours about some domestic dispute to two extraordinarily patient policemen. She's breached a restraining order and also has some issues with Dunelm along with a number of people whose names she's been broadcasting to us all. Quite what she's doing in hospital God only knows.

    At the rate I'm going I'll be writing a guide to A&E departments round the UK.

    That sounds nasty.
    All the best, Cyclefree.

    Recent A&E experiences range from excellent (took someone in with a suspected stroke) to abysmal (sacroiliac tear).
    Same A&E.
    Well now I am being admitted. And they seem to have found some lumps and fluid.

    Bugger!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,104
    Scott_xP said:

    Foxy said:

    AOC and Bernie get 20 000 at a rally in deep red Utah. They were queueing for up to 7 hours. The woman has star quality.

    https://bsky.app/profile/aoc.bsky.social/post/3lmqfpz4kc22r

    6 months too late...
    She was too young to run for POTUS last time around.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 637
    Sitting in a working class area of Singapore having traveled there on the driverless Metro and wondered who all these famous names were - Napier, Erskine, Caldecott. Were they adventurers or merely simple Travel Correspondents who helped found the Singaporean tourist industry?

    We seem to have lost our sense of exploration of new trading relationships leaving it to the Chinese.

    And these driverless Metros are great .
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,104
    Trump threatening CBS and 60 Minutes after they do a long interview with Zelensky.

    https://bsky.app/profile/youranonjd.bsky.social/post/3lmqlaubhwc2s

    Totally normal country.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,687
    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Foxy said:

    AOC and Bernie get 20 000 at a rally in deep red Utah. They were queueing for up to 7 hours. The woman has star quality.

    https://bsky.app/profile/aoc.bsky.social/post/3lmqfpz4kc22r

    6 months too late...
    She was too young to run for POTUS last time around.
    No she wasn't - she was born in October 89.

    The problem was that the Democrats didn't want to run a primary..
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,099
    Foxy said:

    Trump threatening CBS and 60 Minutes after they do a long interview with Zelensky.

    https://bsky.app/profile/youranonjd.bsky.social/post/3lmqlaubhwc2s

    Totally normal country.

    The speed of the collapse of the rule of law in a country supposedly founded on it is simply astonishing to watch in real time. There were signs in the complete failure to hold Trump to account for his many criminal acts during the Biden years but the increase in pace since January is jaw dropping.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,687
    Nigelb said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Another long night in A&E - this time with acute chest pain when breathing, probably pleural. But may be an embolism.

    Unlike in genteel Hampstead, there has been an insane woman shouting and swearing for the last 2 hours about some domestic dispute to two extraordinarily patient policemen. She's breached a restraining order and also has some issues with Dunelm along with a number of people whose names she's been broadcasting to us all. Quite what she's doing in hospital God only knows.

    At the rate I'm going I'll be writing a guide to A&E departments round the UK.

    That sounds nasty.
    All the best, Cyclefree.

    Recent A&E experiences range from excellent (took someone in with a suspected stroke) to abysmal (sacroiliac tear).
    Same A&E.
    That doesn't surprise me and is a feature of what they do and what you come in for.

    Stroke is second to heart attacks for priority - although I'm surprised you actually went to A&E round here you would be immediately off to a specialist department to attempt to minimise damage.

    The sacroiliac tear will be painful but delays won't impact eventual recovery so it's a lower priority while anything of higher priority is sorted out first - and that's where the random delays come from.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,434
    edited April 14
    Foxy said:

    Trump threatening CBS and 60 Minutes after they do a long interview with Zelensky.

    https://bsky.app/profile/youranonjd.bsky.social/post/3lmqlaubhwc2s

    Totally normal country.

    The story here for those without bsky.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/president-trump-says-cbs-60-035040999.html

    The 1st Amendment only has value if the institutions which sustain it continue to function.
    That increasingly hangs in the balance.

    We are not totally immune - only this weekend we had a respected journalist and travel writer advocating dictatorship here...
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,104
    eek said:

    Nigelb said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Another long night in A&E - this time with acute chest pain when breathing, probably pleural. But may be an embolism.

    Unlike in genteel Hampstead, there has been an insane woman shouting and swearing for the last 2 hours about some domestic dispute to two extraordinarily patient policemen. She's breached a restraining order and also has some issues with Dunelm along with a number of people whose names she's been broadcasting to us all. Quite what she's doing in hospital God only knows.

    At the rate I'm going I'll be writing a guide to A&E departments round the UK.

    That sounds nasty.
    All the best, Cyclefree.

    Recent A&E experiences range from excellent (took someone in with a suspected stroke) to abysmal (sacroiliac tear).
    Same A&E.
    That doesn't surprise me and is a feature of what they do and what you come in for.

    Stroke is second to heart attacks for priority - although I'm surprised you actually went to A&E round here you would be immediately off to a specialist department to attempt to minimise damage.

    The sacroiliac tear will be painful but delays won't impact eventual recovery so it's a lower priority while anything of higher priority is sorted out first - and that's where the random delays come from.
    Not everywhere can run acute stroke interventional radiology services. I think you need 9 on the rota in order to have 24 hour services.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,099

    DougSeal said:

    DougSeal said:

    Phil said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Rayner calls in Army to tackle Birmingham bin crisis
    Military personnel take up office-based role to help during strike"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/04/13/angela-rayner-calls-in-army-to-tackle-birmingham-bin-crisis/

    Strike-breakers unite.
    Labour don’t appear to appreciate that lawyers in cahoots with judges have levered the Equality Act as a backdoor way to implement socialism in one country.

    Different jobs have different pay rates? No problem: claim that one job has a different male:female ratio & wield the Equality Act to force the employer to pay them both the same hourly rate! Bonus points if you can point to racial differences, although so far only gender differences have been necessary to win in court.

    When the employer goes bankrupt due to being unable to pay the legally enforced back pay that isn’t the lawyers problem, is it? When one side of the pair of jobs goes on strike because their employer is forced to change their terms & conditions to make the two jobs match that isn’t the lawyers problem either. When the basis of market forces for labour break down & it becomes impossible to recruit for certain jobs which are now mandated to be paid the same as other, completely different ones that definitely isn’t the lawyers problem.

    (I exaggerate only slightly - but this is a real issue that the government is going to have to face up to somehow, because the lawyers are not going to stop now that they’ve got the bit between their teeth. Judges should not be setting pay rates for radically different jobs - that’s the job of the market &/or the government.)
    Don’t blame us. Blame Barbara Castle. She introduced the EqPA
    The principle is fine. Some recent decisions seem absurd though.
    What is interesting is that we are are following some of the worst ideas from the US.

    The judicial branch starts legislating, because the politicians are frit or whatever. This is awesome, because all lawyers are progressive…. Aren’t they?

    I wonder what the U.K. counterpart to the Federalist Society is?
    The lawyers get a look in because Parliament makes shit laws or delegate to the (judicially reviewable) executive. However the EqPA (now consolidated into the Equality Act) has not changed. It’s just been sitting there, rarely used, for half a century. It’s only recently people have woken up to it.
    It's not the law, it's the judgments. Equal value is fine but lawyers' arbitrary decisions on knocking off when the round ends, or customer-facing retail versus warehouse is bordering on the absurd.

    And that is betting without endless
    objections and reviews on infrastructure
    projects, and appeals against deportation
    on the grounds that every other country is
    worse than Britain which is why they came
    here in the first place.
    So basically you are saying that if we introduced the death penalty for lawyers then all would be right with the country?

    Shakespeare put it even more succinctly in Henry VI part 2. We are much misunderstood.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,552

    NEW THREAD

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,104
    Nigelb said:

    Foxy said:

    Trump threatening CBS and 60 Minutes after they do a long interview with Zelensky.

    https://bsky.app/profile/youranonjd.bsky.social/post/3lmqlaubhwc2s

    Totally normal country.

    The story here for those without bsky.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/president-trump-says-cbs-60-035040999.html

    The 1st Amendment only has value if the institutions which sustain it continue to function.
    That increasingly hangs in the balance.

    We are not totally immune - only this weekend we had a respected journalist and travel writer advocating dictatorship here...
    Imagine watching scenes of destruction and child murder by Russian missiles in Ukraine and being mad only about the editor of the programme.
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